The Best of The Week on The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show: Best of the Week

Episode Date: August 16, 2025

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Episode Overview

This “Best of the Week” episode of The Dan Patrick Show brings together the most compelling sports and pop culture discussions from the week. As always, the show balances sharp insights and playful banter, featuring Dan Patrick, Covino and Rich, Doug Gottlieb, and their rotating crew. This week’s highlights include deep-dives into iconic athlete decisions, embarrassing sports injuries, the WNBA's Caitlin Clark conundrum, the Shador Sanders phenomenon, and an entertaining exploration of gym culture and LeBron James’s workout criticism.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

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1. Derek Jeter Skipping Yankees Old Timers Day

[09:36 - 16:53]

• The Situation: Derek Jeter, a Yankees icon, did not attend the Old Timers Day celebration honoring the 2000 World Series team.
• Discussion:
  • Jeter’s absence stirred controversy as he was the face of that championship squad.
  • Covino speculates Jeter may be focusing on family or broadcasting commitments, or possibly “waiting for something bigger.”
  • Rich notes, “If the Patriots did a whole tribute to the dynasty, and Tom Brady said ‘I’m not making it,’ you reschedule. Derek Jeter not being there is that level.” [11:26]
  • Jeter’s reason: his daughter’s birthday party took precedence.
  • Debate on whether Jeter should’ve rescheduled the party or if he’s earned the right to skip the event.
• Notable Quote:
  • Covino: “Maybe he did the right thing because he didn’t want to be remembered as the old guy who can’t play the way he used to... See, now we’ve got this image of Mariano Rivera—like, really, man, he got hurt again. He tore his Achilles. Damn, that sucks.” [15:04]

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2. The "What's Worse?" Game: Embarrassing Sports Injuries

[16:53 - 25:27]

• Featured Injuries:
  • Mariano Rivera re-injuring his Achilles at Old Timers Day.
  • NASCAR’s Connor Zillich breaking his collarbone while celebrating in Victory Lane.
  • Historical nods to infamous freak injuries, like Kendrys Morales (MLB) and Don Baylor (MLB).
• Big Question: Which is the more embarrassing or unfortunate injury: being an aging legend injured in front of fans or suffering a painful mishap during a celebratory moment?
• Notable Quotes:
  • Rich: “These are supposed to be your moments of glory… It’s supposed to be your awesome moment and you just totally blew it.” [24:11]
  • Covino: “How embarrassing… you’re viral for that moment. It’s… broadcasted everywhere.” [24:11]
• Segment Highlight: Lively, sympathetic debate about how quickly celebration and nostalgia can turn to embarrassment for athletes, and why stars like Jeter might just prefer to sit out Old Timers Day altogether.

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3. WNBA: Caitlin Clark’s Absence and Branding

[31:15 - 36:00]

• Issue: The WNBA has struggled in the offseason due to Caitlin Clark's absence and her Olympic snub.
• Panel’s Take:
  • Doug Gottlieb argues the league missed its promotional window: “Their main attraction is Caitlin Clark. She has not played during the meat of summer, and by the time she comes back… football is being played—and zero people care about the WNBA now.” [33:21]
  • Dan Byer relates the failed effort to manufacture new rivalries and boost storylines.
• Net Positive: For Caitlin Clark, her value has been magnified by her absence, as fans and sponsors realize her importance to the league.
• Notable Quote:
  • Covino: “Maybe a disaster for the other part to it, but net positive for Caitlin Clark...” [35:03]

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4. Shador Sanders: Star Power or Distraction?

[37:32 - 45:32]

• Context: As a high-profile rookie, Shador Sanders (son of Deion Sanders) brings “extra,” including a film crew, his own music, and a flashy persona to the Browns as a fourth-string QB.
• Debate:
  • Dan Byer is skeptical: “With the music playing and week one of a preseason game... those were things NFL teams felt there was a lot of extra with Shador... and none of that had changed.” [37:32]
  • Doug Gottlieb connects Sanders’ attitude to wider concerns about entitlement, locker room dynamics, and the risks for teams cutting high-profile players: “Nobody wants entitled on a sports team, especially from a guy who’s not a first round draft pick.” [39:36]
• Big Picture: Discussion on the tension between personal branding and fitting into team culture, especially for rookies.

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5. Parenting & Sports: The FAFO (F*** Around and Find Out) Era

[53:10 - 58:33]

• Topic: New “tough love” parenting style—letting kids learn through natural consequences, known as “FAFO.”
• Sports Parallel:
  • Rich and Covino compare FAFO to sports management—letting teams or athletes make bold calls and live with the outcome.
  • “You don’t need to tie everything to sports. But I feel that way—yesterday, the Mets...they took him out, bullpen stinks...F around and find out. Give up the lead. Lose the game.” – Rich [55:54]

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6. Criticizing LeBron James’s Workout Form—and the Gym “Experts”

[58:51 - 73:31]

• Incident: A LeBron gym video goes viral, with critics online bashing his form despite his unprecedented longevity and athleticism.
• Central Question: Is it fair to critique someone’s methods when their results are extraordinary?
• Hosts’ View:
  • Covino: “Can you really critique somebody if they look better than you or if it just works for them when it comes to their workout?” [61:29]
  • Rich compares it to broke people giving financial advice and sports fans criticizing world-class athletes.
  • The cast riff on gym culture: “Go play with your five-pound dumbbells. I’m sure the women will lend them to you. The Pee Wee Herman edition.” – Covino [73:00]
• Notable Quotes:
  • Rich: “For anyone criticizing the workout routine of LeBron James, he should give the world the Tom Brady [smirk].” [68:04]
• Key Takeaway: The show pokes fun at armchair critics while praising LeBron’s unprecedented longevity (“23 NBA seasons!” [60:15]) and the results-focused approach.

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Notable Quotes (with Timestamps)

• On Jeter skipping Old Timers Day:

  “He wants to be remembered as Derek Jeter diving into the stands. See, now we got this image again of Mariano Rivera...he got hurt again. He tore his Achilles. Damn, that sucks.” – Covino [15:04]

• On freak injuries turning glory to embarrassment:

  “These are supposed to be your moments of glory...and you just totally blew it.” – Rich [24:11]

• On the WNBA’s summer ‘disaster’:

  “By the time she comes back and plays, football is being played—and zero people care about the WNBA now.” – Doug Gottlieb [33:21]

• On the pitfalls of Shador Sanders’ star power:

  “Nobody wants entitled on a sports team, especially from a guy who’s not a first round draft pick.” – Doug Gottlieb [39:36]

• On LeBron’s critics:

  “Can you really critique somebody if they look better than you or if it just works for them?” – Covino [61:29]
  “He should give the world the Tom Brady [smirk].” – Rich [68:04]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• Derek Jeter Old Timers Day Debate: 09:36 – 16:53
• Embarrassing Sports Injuries Game (‘What’s Worse?’): 16:53 – 25:27
• WNBA & Caitlin Clark Discourse: 31:15 – 36:00
• Shador Sanders Branding vs. Team Fit: 37:32 – 45:32
• Parenting & FAFO Era: 53:10 – 58:33
• LeBron James, Gym Culture & Armchair Criticism: 58:51 – 73:31

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Memorable Moments & Tone

• Banter about embarrassing injuries seamlessly transitions into deeper reflections about aging, legacy, and pride in sports.
• The “Shut Up, Fatso” mantra becomes the show’s tongue-in-cheek rebuttal to social media critics, especially those mocking LeBron’s gym habits. [74:54]
• Covino and Rich’s playful competition about lifting weights and lifestyle advice adds to the relatable, comedic tone.

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Summary

This episode captures The Dan Patrick Show’s essence: witty, self-aware, and unafraid to blend pop culture with smart analysis. Listeners are treated to insightful conversations about sports heroes, the perils of nostalgia, and the paradox of being a critic in the social media era. Whether you’re a die-hard fan or a casual listener, these highlights offer a sharp, funny, and thoughtful look at the week in sports and beyond.

Transcript

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[Covino]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. Happy to be here in for dp the Dan Patrick hat trick. Yesterday, today, tomorrow, then regular time on Thursday, five to seven on the east and then no and then we're in for DP on Friday. So it's technically a haul this week, but we love it. What's up DP nation? And you know you love it. Again, Covino and Rich, proud to be here. Proud to have a new YouTube channel. Big announcement this week. We're simulcasting on YouTube but we ask you to subscribe YouTube.com, so it's YouTube.cominoenrich FSR and we could be friends. You could watch us. Yeah, I'm here in my little hoodie because it's cold here in the studio.

[Rich]

It's absolutely free. There's no reason why you shouldn't do it. Hey, if you asked me to do it for you, I would. Hey, we got a lot we're going to get to this hour. Some NFL baseball. We got 40 games left. We're 75% done. Some teams are falling off the cliff. Other teams have won 10 in a row since their coach put pancakes in their pocket.

[Covino]

Now, speaking of baseball.

[Rich]

What?

[Covino]

Before we give away prizes, get you involved, we'll take a few phone calls. 87799 on Fox. I got to tell you about Derek Jeter and his first possible misstep. And what's the worst injury? There's a story involving Old Timers Day this past weekend and collar Zillich. Connor Zillich. Have you seen the Connor Zillich story? I have. Oh, my goodness. We'll get to that. But let's. There was a collar involved. His collarbone. Yeah, exactly. Let's get into Johnny in Minnesota. What's up Johnny being on Ridge. What up? Amen. Hey, I hope you guys don't remember what I said yesterday on them.

[Rich]

Oh, Johnny, you're forever part of our show.

[Covino]

I laughed for hours after that.

[Dan Patrick]

But anyways, what's on your mind today.

[Danny]

If you missed it Yesterday he said.

[Covino]

Oh crap. Wait, we need an explanation. What happened? Hey Johnny. I burnt my pizza.

[Rich]

He burnt his pizza at like 8:30 in the morning. Hold on, Johnny, pause one second. Pause.

[Covino]

I thought he had an accident.

[Rich]

Johnny, hold on one second. If you don't know what we're talking about, which I imagine you don't, yesterday Johnny called up and in the middle of his call, Sam, you have the clip, right? Or do you have it Danny or.

[Danny]

No, we'll have to effort that.

[Rich]

Oh fine. I thought you had it on standby. In the middle of his call, he's like, oh crap, there I go again. Or something. Something very bizarre. But what's up today, Johnny?

[Covino]

I'm gonna. I just want to talk about the David justice and Halle Berry, man. Yeah, I don't know. Why would he get rid of. Why would he get rid of that? I would take that average all day long. Because there's more to life than being ridiculously good looking. You know, that's really it. He, he wasn't short of any other beautiful women. He didn't feel that bad for her because he's thinking, yeah, she's got any dude she wants. She's a successful Hollywood star. She didn't make his heart go pitter patter. That's really what it was. He liked her. He looks back and realized she loved him. But the honeymoon stage was over and he just couldn't see her being the mother of his kids. And he couldn't see him spending the rest of his life with her. He could grow old with her.

[Dan Patrick]

That's what he said.

[Rich]

You don't need to tie everything together to sports just because it's Fox Sports Radio. But I find constantly Johnny's thinking about.

[Covino]

That scene in Monsters Ball. We're talking Moneyball, not monsters.

[Rich]

I think we all are. When you say Halle Berry.

[Covino]

Schwing.

[Rich]

I will say it's. It's so typical to want to tie them together because I think sports and relationships have so much in common, which is why I've always been drawn to both. I always found the dating world and relationships fascinating. Same with sports. I think when David justice realized, you know, I can't see her being the one to do these things I need.

[Covino]

Right.

[Rich]

He didn't see her as the mother of his kids.

[Covino]

Honestly, I find that to be extremely mature. He talks about how immature he was. I don't know, man, that's kind of tough. It's easy to fall in love with a beautiful woman and hope for the best and look past it sometimes.

[Rich]

I mean, a lot of times people. I think it was mature of him.

[Covino]

Because I think that's very mature thinking.

[Rich]

If you're not going to give me what I need, then I'm willing to.

[Covino]

Let this beautiful woman go because of that. That's extremely mature. And I'm not just saying that because we're going to see him in the hallway. I'm really saying that because I think that's my problem.

[Rich]

To compare it to sports. I feel like a lot of times a team will have a leader or a player, and you could say no more in Boston. Sometimes when you realize, like, yeah, they're. I like them, but they're not the one that's going to get us there. Quarterbacks in the NFL, you. You might say to yourself, you know.

[Covino]

Like, tough decisions, Yeah, I like this person.

[Rich]

They're a good guy. They seem like a good, good guy in the locker room, but you're not going to win a Super bowl with this guy at the helm. And that's why teams move on. Because sometimes you have to have that maturity in you to say, yeah, you know what?

[Covino]

We're going to move on. And the huevos.

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

You know, we all put a lot of people, myself included, put up with stuff that I probably shouldn't in personal life and professional life. But to make those moves requires a sense of confidence and huevos and maturity that I think it would take to say, peace out to Halle Berry. Yeah. As the saying goes. Oh, again, there it is. Thank you, John.

[Dan Patrick]

There we go.

[Rich]

So speaking of David justice, he played with one of your childhood heroes, number two, Derek Jeter.

[Covino]

Man, this is like a two part doozy. Did Derek Jeter misstep. I bring that up reluctantly, reluctantly, crouched here at the microphone because Rich said it. One of my heroes. I think he's great. I think he created the blueprint, how to succeed in New York City. And if you can make it there, he can make it anywhere, as they say.

[Rich]

I've heard that.

[Covino]

But that dude did everything right. Came in big at every big moment, just a winner. Maybe that's why he didn't want to be associated with the Yankees this year, because they stink. I don't know. Or maybe he's putting his broadcasting career first, or his priorities are different. Or maybe he's got something up his.

[Rich]

Sleeve, but maybe there's aspirations with another team.

[Covino]

Right? Like we don't know that. Maybe he's holding out for something else. But the story is this. This past weekend, my birthday weekend, this past weekend on my birthday actually was Old Timers Day. And for the first time, they celebrated the 2000 New York Yankees, the World Series champions that beat Rich's Mets. It was a squad and you know, the Rocket. Roger Clemens was there.

[Rich]

I saw Paul o' Neill with a gray poofy hair.

[Covino]

Now he's got a poofador.

[Rich]

Paul o' Neill almost struck out and then he. Then he ripped a nice line drive.

[Covino]

Yeah, I saw soho was there. David Cohn was throwing.

[Rich]

Ah, but you know who wasn't there? Derek Jeter.

[Covino]

Derek Jeter was a no show, and I think he was the captain, like just two or three years later, but he was the centerpiece of that team. And to have everybody show up from superstars to ancillary dudes and not have Jeter there, and that's very odd.

[Rich]

I mean, we extremely talked about this a week or so ago where we said, it's like if the Patriots did a whole tribute to the dynasty, that was. And Tom Brady's like, yeah, guys, I'm not making it. Then you reschedule. I think you reschedule for when Tom Brady can make it. I think the fact that Jeter's not at a tribute to the 2000 Yankees.

[Covino]

To me, it's like a little bit of a. My too cool for the moment, TC Too cool moment when you got guys like Bernie Williams there. Passada. His boys, the Core Four were there. Pettit was there, but he wasn't. But the story is this. He had a birthday party for his daughter that he was not canceling. So that's story number one. It's like, does that take precedence? I know you got to be there for your family. And he probably. No, I'm sure he did put off. He put off so much of personal time off for his career that now he's a dad. He's like, now this is my priority. You could say, I respect that. Or you could say, hey, you could reschedule a birthday party anytime, can't you?

[Rich]

Yeah.

[Covino]

I mean, what does that kid know?

[Rich]

You know, there are things that are adjustable and things that are not. If your kid has their dance recital, you could say, well, listen, I'm prioritizing my kids dance recital. They're not going to move the dance recital. But when you book your kid's birthday party at your house, at a Chuck E. Cheese, at a Dave and Buster's. When you're Derek Jeter, you can move the party. Yeah, I just. It's not a set in stone like, well, you're not going to move your kids holiday concert at school. I know you can't do that. But what you could do is make adjustments when you're the captain and one of the most famous baseball players over the last 50 years. But now you're trying to decide, well, did Jeter do the right thing?

[Covino]

Did he do the right thing Spike Lee style? So did he miss that by not going to? That's a debate within itself. We've talked about that. I choose to believe he's got something up his sleeve because I'm a big fan. I don't want to believe he has this elitist vibe to him. As social media and some articles you read say, I think Jeter is one of the greatest. That's my personal opinion. But did he do the right thing in retrospect? Because here's what happened, and I'm getting conflicting stories on this again. I was riding the teacups at Disney World when this happened.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Covino]

But I saw the footage, too. Mariano Rivera is in the outfield like he would do in his playing days. That's how he got hurt in his last year. Remember his last year? He was taking fly balls. They always said. Here's what they always said. Mariano Rivera might be the best athlete on the team. He could play any position. He was that good. And he used to love to shag fly balls. You should see him in the outfield. He's in the outfield and he twists his ankle and he's out for the year.

[Rich]

And then.

[Covino]

And then he extends his career one more year.

[Rich]

What was supposed to be Mo Rivera's last year? You might forget that. Cavino's right. It might be something that people forget. Mo Rivera was supposed to retire, gets hurt, out for the season. So I can't go out that way. So they sort of push back his farewell tour by a year.

[Covino]

An extra. He played an extra year because his final year he got hurt. Shag and fly balls in practice, pregame, just for fun. So it's old Timers Day and he's doing the same thing.

[Rich]

He's doing the same thing because shagging fly balls.

[Covino]

Mo Rivera and her sandman loves to shag fly balls.

[Rich]

What does he always say? Like you said, oh, best athlete in the clubhouse. Like they always said that he was a great athlete and he loved to just play ball.

[Covino]

But, dude, there's a. There's a clip that a fan took where you see him aggravate. He's like, his Achilles. His Achilles. And he goes down. Ah. But then I read an article that says he wrote the single, and during that bat by Willie Randolph, he took a step and fell behind second base. So I think that's what really sealed the deal. But he had heard it earlier, and Roger Clemson, other players said he needed surgery and he tore his Achilles. So, old timers, that you're pushing yourself a little bit. You got Mickey Rivers in center field. He's 179 years old. These guys are old, some of these dudes, right? You know, maybe he did the right thing because he didn't want to be remembered as the old guy who can't play the way he used to. He wants to be remembered as Derek Jeter diving into the stands. See, now we got this image again of Mariano Rivera. Like, really, man, he. He got hurt again. Like his. He tore his Achilles. Damn, that sucks. Now we got this old guy impression of. Of the Sandman.

[Rich]

I don't think one of the great. I don't think anyone cares about the old guy impression because we all get older. I think, dude, now he needs surgery. But I just.

[Covino]

He was playing old timers.

[Rich]

I just think it's a bummer for him that he's like, are you kidding me? Like, I went back for one day to play, to do it, for the fans, to see my old pals, and now I have to recover from a surgery in.

[Covino]

So I'm not sure exactly what sealed the deal for Rivera. In the story, you see him get hurt twice, but he needs surgery now. As a result, people are like, oh, damn. So maybe Jeter did the right thing. In retrospect, when you see what could potentially happen and how you're remembered.

[Rich]

Well, I think. I think today we're going to play a little game called what's Worse?

[Covino]

And now there's another story from this past weekend. You have to watch this. Connor Zillich wins the race in nascar. He's celebrating. He gets out of the car. Like Dukes of Hazzard, right? He gets out of the car, just.

[Rich]

A good old pain.

[Covino]

And he puts his foot up where the window. As he gets out, he trips up on his own feet. It looks a little slippery. I don't know what happens. And he falls out of the car.

[Rich]

Like, bad.

[Covino]

Real bad. Yeah.

[Danny]

This was victory lane. So he's standing up on the window.

[Covino]

He stands up, you know, in celebration. It's like Kendra's Morales sort of situation. In celebration, he gets hurt.

[Rich]

Morales.

[Covino]

That's the worst story.

[Rich]

When. When he jumped and landed on home plate. And that was it, dude.

[Covino]

That was the worst. That was the worst. Or is this one worse? But what's the worst injury? What happened to Mo? Because it's embarrassing. Mo Rivera, Old Timers Day or Connor Zillich here? Because in celebration, he gets up and falls out of the car, and you don't know if, like, he hit his head or what.

[Danny]

He landed on his neck.

[Rich]

Yeah, we're streaming it right now. Watch us. Here he goes to stand up, foot on the window. Look, there's the slip, right? And he's got his foot caught in the netting, and he. He landed like, you know, in Family Guy, when they fall down the stairs, they land all awkwardly in their hands.

[Covino]

And legs are all the place.

[Rich]

That's what he looked like. Oh, man.

[Doug Gottlieb]

I'm trying to.

[Danny]

Yeah, he was motionless. They had to get an ambulance.

[Rich]

Broken collarbone.

[Covino]

It's like that woman, that famous viral clip years ago when she's stomping grapes on the news and she falls out of the fat of grapes and then.

[Rich]

She knocks the wind out of herself.

[Covino]

Yeah. She's like. And I believe that woman there broke a collarbone. That's exactly what happened to him.

[Rich]

The best part of that clip is when they went back to the Deuce, the news desk, and like, oh, hope she's okay.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Ah.

[Covino]

Oh. Oh, man. Oh.

[Rich]

The sad part about that Connor Zillich clip, though, everything.

[Covino]

He was. Cheer.

[Rich]

He was like, yeah, he's cheersing a Red Bull. And then when he fell down, the.

[Covino]

Red Bull was just spilled and just.

[Rich]

Trickling out of the can.

[Covino]

It was just laying there like some sad prop. Yeah, it doesn't necessarily work for Red Bull. Bad endorsement.

[Rich]

Those are. Those are bad ones. I think the question, though, is what's worse? Going back to an old Timers game.

[Covino]

And reminding everybody that you're an old timer. The legend or Rivera or being in.

[Rich]

On victory Lane, which is where I know you've looked at real estate. It's beautiful there. Victory Lane.

[Covino]

Wasn't she one of your favorite porn stars?

[Rich]

Victory Lane on the COVID of Penthouse. When you're on victory Lane and you're celebrating and you fall to your car, break your collarbone, and it goes from the greatest moment of your life to.

[Covino]

You can't say collarbone, huh?

[Rich]

Horrible.

[Covino]

He says it like he's saying horrible.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Horrible.

[Covino]

Yeah, he sounds like Louisville.

[Danny]

Sound like Charles Barkley.

[Rich]

Carl.

[Covino]

So he broke his cold bone.

[Rich]

So he broke his collarbone. What's worse? That Mo Rivera I got. You know, the saddest one to me ever is the late great. I hope he's late great, because I don't want to get this wrong. Dom Baylor, he's passed away.

[Covino]

Yes, he has.

[Rich]

The late, great, legendary baseball player Dom Baylor. Danny, have you ever seen the clip of him catching a ceremonial first pitch?

[Covino]

I mean, Vlad Guerrero was thrown to him.

[Rich]

He gets down in a catcher position.

[Covino]

And remember, he was sick and he.

[Rich]

Was, you're right, ill at the time. And you see his leg buckle, and it's an older Don Balor buckle.

[Covino]

It goes in like an opposite direction while he's taking a knee. It's sensitive.

[Rich]

And they try to pick him up and very quickly realize, like, no, his leg is, like, mangled. And it was all in an attempt to be a catcher for a ceremonial first pitch. And I remember always thinking that, to me, was one of the sadder. And this really comes down to sad injuries that happen in what should be awesome moments.

[Covino]

Right?

[Rich]

Sad injuries in celebrating a grand slam, being paid tribute at an all. At a All Timers game, winning a NASCAR race. These are moments of glory. They should have resulted in you being like.

[Covino]

And not to get off track. But maybe that's why Jeter doesn't want to be involved. Not necessarily because he's scared of injury, but he's like, I don't want to be viewed as an old timer. Get out of here. Old timer.

[Danny]

I think that has a lot to do with it.

[Covino]

Yeah, there's. There's plenty of time to be an old guy, and then right now is not my time. I'm trying to build a reputation here as a broadcaster with Fox Sports. Old timer. Yeah, maybe for you guys, not for me. I'm thinking, I feel that way.

[Danny]

Remember when Gus Farot went to celebrate and jammed his neck into the wall?

[Rich]

He did a headbutt, right?

[Covino]

Yeah, that was a classic one.

[Rich]

I mean, Kevin Brown, didn't he punch a wall in the dugout?

[Danny]

Like, wasn't it Grammatica who. Who pulled up lame after celebrating a kick?

[Rich]

Dude, why am I drawing a blank? There was a 49er. Was it true? Was it Greenlaw? Hold on. Hurt at Super Bowl. Do you remember? I got. I got to look this up because Ted Ginn Jr.

[Covino]

He injured himself, I think, after a kick return for a touchdown once during the celebration.

[Rich]

The 49ers. Yeah, it was Trey Greenlaw. Dre Greenlaw, during the super bowl in Vegas against the Chiefs. I was at the game. I know, on TV, they didn't even show it much either at first. 49ers impact player, no longer with the team.

[Covino]

He's a Bronco, right?

[Rich]

Drake Greenlaw suffered a freak Achilles tendon tear. It's right before the second half, if you remember. That game was close. I believe the Niners. It was tied or. Niners are up at halftime. They're about to go on the field. Cavino in the second half. Greenlaw is on the sideline just doing like. He's hyping himself up, like, jumping, getting ready. He's almost doing, like, a little, like, stutter step. Get ready to go on the field. And out of nowhere, you just see him go, oh. And falls. And honestly, Kyle Shanahan, everyone on the personnel is like, yo, what. What happened to Dre?

[Danny]

It was a no contact injury, dude.

[Rich]

It was a freak Achilles, like, tear.

[Covino]

You know what Rich just made me think of? I mean, it's really taken this next level, but it's one of our favorite stories, because I think if you're going to go, this is how you do it. There was a famous story, like, five to 10 years ago of an old timer who bowled his whole life. And he bowled his first 300 game. He's like, I did. It's like an older fella. And in celebration of his 300 game, Ste. He has a heart attack and dies. And you're like, oh, man. But when you want to do it. Yeah. So these celebrations, these moments, these freak injuries. What's worse, this Connor Zillich story, again, you got to see it. It's so bad. I feel so bad for the guy, cuz. How embarrassing to. Can we, like, really point that out? The guy's celebrating. Whoa. And it breaks a collarbone, and it's broadcasted everywhere. And you're viral for that moment. It's. It's like, this is supposed to be your awesome moment, and you just totally blew.

[Rich]

And he's whipping around a racetrack.

[Covino]

That's so embarrassing.

[Rich]

The man, he's got a bottle. He's got a Red Bull or whatever. He's about to celebrate. Everyone's like, yeah, man, they're spraying champagne.

[Covino]

Whoa, dude, that's slippery on that. Yeah, but that's embarrassing. Yeah. Oh, it's unfortunate. But that's embarrass. Embarrassing as hell, dude. You know, you got that. Or the Rivera injury, because, again, that's embarrassing, too. You don't want to be the old guy who gets hurt. It's like our buddy J. Stu, who works here, he played one softball game with Rich. One softball Game to fill in.

[Rich]

I felt so bad.

[Covino]

And he, like, tore muscle, like, at that game and had a leaf.

[Rich]

He pulled it.

[Covino]

I think he pulled a hammy or something.

[Rich]

Yeah, he'll be all right.

[Covino]

But he.

[Rich]

It's.

[Covino]

The funny thing is he plays softball.

[Rich]

All the time with his son, so.

[Covino]

He just came out to a different softball game, ends up getting hurt, and he's like, yeah, but he's embarrassed. Impression for Rich and all his buddies is J. Stu's an old guy, got hurt in one game, holding his hamstring, limping off the. All Rich's buddies. Like, hey, Rich, remember when you vouch for that guy and he came and he pulled the muscle? Yeah, that was funny. Then he had to go.

[Rich]

While he's still walking around San Francisco.

[Covino]

Right now with a. With a. With a limp, you don't want to be remembered. It's. It's really what it comes down to is you're remembered for this in a weird way. Like, that's like, even we mentioned Kendry Morales, a guy had a great career. We still remember his stupid injury when he was celebrating because it's embarrassing and unfortunate.

[Rich]

You're right, Danny, you mentioned it. There's been more than one kicker that. You're right. They hit a field goal in celebration. Like, hopped gramatica.

[Danny]

I looked it up. He tore his ACL when he celebrated.

[Covino]

After making his kick.

[Rich]

It's so unfortunate. But, hey, wishing him well. Who is it again? Connor Zillich and Mo Rivera.

[Dan Patrick]

Who?

[Covino]

Two bad injuries over the weekend.

[Rich]

You know, you got to assume, like, even though he's not active, do you think he wants to. Do you think he wants to be at home recouping from a surgery because he foolishly tore an Achilles?

[Covino]

Oh, yeah, by the way, if you haven't seen him, Mo Rivera, he's in great shape, man. But again, not the same guy he was. And here's what I don't know. I don't know if it's the same foot, the same leg that he injured all those years ago, but unfortunately, either way, be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Paulie Fusco here with Tony Fusco. Yo, as everybody knows, we're the host of the award winning Paulie and Tony Fusco Show. Yeah, but instead of us telling you how great we are, here's how Dan.

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[Rich]

What are you doing?

[Covino]

You're interrupting our promo.

[Rich]

Yeah, he wasn't talking about you.

[Doug Gottlieb]

You took those clips totally out of context.

[Covino]

Oh yeah? Well, after this promo, I'm gonna take.

[Rich]

You out and beat you. Let me put this into context. Shut up. Yeah.

[Covino]

Anyway, just listen to the Paulie and Tony Fusco show on iHeartRadio, Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Yay.

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[Doug Gottlieb]

Good morning to you. It's Dan Patrick show, fox Sports Radio iHeartradio app with Dan Byer, Jason Stewart, Chris Perfette. I'm Doug Gottlieb. The Doug Gottlieb show crew sitting in for Dan and the Danettes here as we get ready for football season. Well, we continue to ride out the wave of the brewers winning streak. The Angels winning streak, huh? You can put a halo on that one as the Angels sweep the Dodgers. I'm sure there's other stuff going on in Sports. And we're going to get to this Shador Sanders topic in one second. I do think that there's. This is a real thing, Dan. I think this year has been a abject disaster for the WNBA from this standpoint. We. You can be the most ardent wnba. I can't stand the women and how they treat Caitlin Clark or how the level of play or the promotion of it or putting them on ads instead of NBA players or whatever. There's plenty of guys out there that feel that way. Right. But their main attraction is Caitlin Clark. She has not played during the meat of summer and by the time she comes back and plays, football is being played. And zero people care about the WNBA now. There's. And there is a, there's a growing following. And I'm just telling you, like that last summer, not putting her on the Olympic team was messy. It probably helped her personally as she, it was just too much of a whirlwind and she got kind of got her stuff together for the playoff run, but it did not promote the sport. And then the one woman that drives ratings to the sport isn't playing all summer. And she'll come back and play. By the time she comes back and plays, it's the end of August. We're on to football. College football starts in what, two weeks? It's over.

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Like, you want to talk about missing a window, right? I, that's, that's. I was thinking about that last night. I was like, hey, what's missing? Why has there been zero to talk about for like three weeks outside of Shador, whatever. And I know it's usually this way, but I landed on, hey, last summer we were talking about Olympics, wnba, Caitlin Clark, and she's very much still alive, still playing basketball, but injured right now during the one time of year where nothing else was going on that anybody wants to talk about.

[Danny]

And here's the scary thing. College football is, oh, a week from Saturday away because of week zero. The full schedule obviously coming up with August 28th, two weeks from today. And then obviously on Saturday, August 30th, we get a full slate of games. But Doug, to your point about the wnba, I don't think any storyline was able to grow. And I thought maybe we were going to get that. I thought we were maybe going to get more players receptive to Caitlin Clark. We saw Sophie Cunningham make a name for herself and she made quite a name for herself and sticking up for her. But I thought something was interesting when the Connecticut sun played the Fever and they moved a game to Boston. And this was after the little melee that they had earlier in the season. And I'm like this could be good for the WNBA to get Connecticut sun fans maybe to be a rival of the Indiana Fever. That did not happen. There was no ability to make a rivalry with Paige Beckers and the Dallas team because Caitlin Clark hasn't been available. Nothing was able to progress this year and if anything maybe it took a step back because we see that it is so Caitlin Clark driven.

[Covino]

Don't you think that the contrast has been offered up though? Because Doug's point that it's been a disaster for the wnba. Can't you make a case that it's been a net positive for Caitlin Clark and that she proved in her absence how valuable she is to an entity. This coming off of her declining to do that stupid three on three league coming off of get a not being included on the Olympic team. This whole Sophie Cunningham storyline is all about her protecting Caitlin Clark. That's her brand. She's gotten the podcast, she's gotten the ad time because of protecting Caitlin Clark.

[Rich]

So maybe a disaster for the other.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Part to it, but net positive for Caitlin Clark is another part to the. The Sophie Cunningham. Right. She's an attractive woman that plays basketball. Right. And she's flirty with. With how she looks at the camera. So I mean I think.

[Covino]

But yes, being white and straight too.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Yeah, all those things, all those things were. All those things work. But I think most of it is that the part. It's the connection. She, she's. She's. You want to riding the wave of Caitlin Clark or she's catching some of that, that whitewash of Caitlin Clark along with, you know, being attractive and you know, being completely different from what our image is of WNBA players was for the past 25 years which has allowed us to hyper focus on a fifth round pick at quarterback. Right. It's like we just, we have to pay attention to something. And I even think like the Micah Parsons thing because the, because the Cowboys thing happens every single year, right? Every single year. It's like hey who can we create some sort of salary drama? We know Jerry's ultimately going to pay him. Let's ask for an obscene amount of money. Maybe it's not the time, it's not the place. And then Mike Parsons, really good Cowboys aren't, but they're not terrible. You're going to pay him. He's doing a hold in. He's really under contract for three more years without negotiation if they want to. So it's going to get done. It was kind of agreed to. Then the agent was like, yo. Anyway, I think people are completely over talking about the Cowboys. Like let me know when the Cowboys lose late in the season and fall out of the playoffs so I can make fun of them. Or let me know if they get to the playoffs and lose early so I can make fun of them. But I've, I've seen this movie. I know how it ends. So instead we're hyper focusing on Shador Sanders. Which brings us to Dan Byer. Your thought on Shador?

[Danny]

Yeah. So earlier in the week, Doug, I just made the point that with the music playing and week one of a preseason game where he hadn't gotten a lot of snapshots with film crew following him around, that those were the things that I didn't think NFL teams wanted to deal with or felt that there was a lot of extra with Shador and which was one of the reasons why he fell in the NFL draft. And for as great as he played on that Friday night against Carolina, it was everything that was extra about it that was the reason or that I felt that he fell in the draft and none of that had changed. So there wasn't an opportunity for Shador Sanders to maybe do things a bit different. The reason why he fell to the fifth round I felt was because of everything that was extra with him that teams didn't want to deal with.

[Covino]

Yeah, yeah.

[Doug Gottlieb]

I actually, I'll draw a comp to what we went through last year. You know, you get the job late and we're on what's called APR probation. APR probation. So APR probation, we can only practice five instead of six days a week. And those four hours of practice time that we lost have to be mandatory study hall for your team. Right. And it's not because of my team. It's like two years previous team was an academic disaster. Anyway, the point was that when we, every player we took, we had to take with the mindset of, okay, what happens if he flunks out? We can't have a guy flunk out because you have a certain number of points. You know, everybody has to be eligible. Then if they leave, they have to go find a school. Has to be a four year school. There's all these rules with they have to get a certain GPA in order to transfer to a four year school to, to a junior college, they're a freshman to another school, they got to get a, you know, a 2.5, otherwise they hurt you academically. So we had to evaluate who we take based upon how hard they were to get rid of. Make sense?

[Danny]

Yes.

[Doug Gottlieb]

And I think that was a real thing for Shador Sanders, which was, you know, he clearly blew off a bunch of these meetings and was disengaged and frankly, rude. Everybody says it. I've heard from real NFL people that it was in many ways worse just because this was their way of, I don't want to be drafted by that team. And, you know, coaches, everyone talks to everyone in the industry. They just do. So then word got out that Jador Sanders was a complete jerk in these meetings, and then you start to factor in, okay, well, I might like him, but Dion's going to want my job. Does he Wants to coach his kid. And, oh, yeah, by the way, you're going to have a film crew, you're going to have his boys. You have a kid that comes from A kid that comes from money. So there's the perception, whether it's real or not, that he's arrogant, that he's entitled. Nobody wants entitled on a sports team, especially from a guy who's not a first round draft pick, you know, and. And then you have to factor in your mind, okay, what happens if we cut him? Because that's a big reason. Kaepernick. There's lots of reasons. Kaepernick was never back in the NFL. Okay. He didn't want to be a backup, and he was at the point in his career where he had to be a backup and then potentially earn it or get a little luck. Guy gets hurt and then you get an opportunity. But it was. The big part was. And I talked to a gm. I remember at the time said, it's not that. If I bring him in, it'll be great. It'll be well received. He's a talented guy. He's probably a backup at this stage in his career. You know, he's not great at reading a defense. Remember, he can only scramble out to his. Right. There's a lot of things that. But it was. What happens if I cut him? If I cut him, I can be called a racist. Am I going to lose half my locker room? What happens for Shador Sanders if we cut him? You know what, what happens? What? How are we received? Do we look like clowns for taking this guy on? So I. Yeah, I do see that. I completely agreed with your take, which is the. The play on the field was fine. It was good. It was good. I still don't know how good an army has. Right. It's still against, but whatever. Like, let's not Diminish it.

[Danny]

It was good, sure, I agree.

[Doug Gottlieb]

But it's the, you show up and you're a fifth round pick and you're fourth in the depth chart and you got a dude bringing music, hold another guy holding your bag, like, what, what are we doing? That's not how quarterback is played in the NFL. Quarterback, it's very much like a political position where you got to rally everybody behind you and you got it. The same reason that politicians, they go and do they go to these like diners or they go get ice cream and they always, you know what they always wear? They always wear a blue button down dress shirt. They don't wear a tie and they roll up their sleeves. Right? Now all these guys are ridiculously rich. Trump's the only one to be like, I'm rich, I'm wearing my stuff. I'm wearing the same suit every day. Like, I don't even know if he has like any, you know, anything else to wear. But all these other politicians, they do because that's the job. You're supposed to look like the everyman.

[Covino]

Right?

[Doug Gottlieb]

I'm gonna just roll up my sleeves. No tie, right?

[Danny]

I'm one of you.

[Covino]

I'm.

[Doug Gottlieb]

I'm one of you. Like, what? But that's where. And, and I. There's definitely a section of fans that think that this is about things that it's not about. That's just a, hey, it's a young black man trying to do, trying to, you know, push the envelope of what's acceptable. Like, well, there's. The young black man was drafted number one overall quarterback this year. Like, what are we doing? It's happened 10 times in a row. It's not about that. It's about the appearance of being humble, not entitled and motivated to prove everybody wrong. Right. And that part, he's obviously motivated to prove everybody wrong. But, but it's, it's. The delivery. Still feels like he doesn't actually get it, still hasn't actually got it.

[Danny]

And it feels like that he wants to do it on his own terms. And the, the point that, that I will stand by and I don't take anything back for what I said was it's also of an indictment on the NFL. But again, the NFL and these teams are in charge. So when you're applying for a job or going for a job, you want to be able to show your worth and fit in. And I just found it surprising, instead of carrying a veterans duffel bag into the locker room like a rookie normally would, that another teammate of his was playing Shador's own song in week one of a preseason game. And I just, I, it was surprising to me and it felt like it was a lot and at that point, like if it was week one of a regular season game where he had won the job, maybe, maybe there's something to that. Maybe at that point you can do it. But I just felt in week one of a preseason game, do you need your own soundtrack walking into the stadium? And I just didn't think so. I thought the Tony Grossi interview that was recorded, which Tony ended up approaching Shador, but Tony didn't know that they were recording. That's another aspect of it. It's not that the NFL is scot free and it's all blamed on Shador, but that's where you would think a lot of the responses came from that Shador is the victim in all of this and what's happening in Cleveland because he was the one that was taken in the fifth round, that he's the one that's not getting the first team reps. Like that's sports. That's, that's what you got to deal with. This is no different than other quarterbacks. So to put paint Shador as a victim here, which I don't think Shador is trying to do, I think it's, I think it's the fan base of Shador that's trying to do that. I just, I don't agree with that at all.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Yeah, it, it definitely, it's given us something to get us through kind of this preseason. When we're talking about the Browns and their current fourth string quarterback. It has distracted us from talking about DeSean Watson who's still like working out. You know, they changed his contracts. I think they got him for a couple more years. Like that's going to be weird when he, we haven't mentioned like he's going to come back at some point and want to play football. It's, it's going to be fascinating.

[Covino]

Be sure to catch the live edition of the Dan Patrick show, weekdays at 9am Eastern, 6am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

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[Rich]

Yo, what's up buds? Friday morning.

[Covino]

Good day. It is Friday, finally.

[Doug Gottlieb]

Friday, Friday.

[Covino]

Friday. Tgif. Which makes you Urkel, I guess. What are you Bing? Got any cheese? Don't be ridiculous. Welcome to our version of tgif. Covino and Rich in for Dan Patrick. It's an extended haul. We did the hat trick earlier this week.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Covino]

Then we did our regular time five to seven on the East. But no one really cares. We're just here right now. It's all that matters. It's been a fun week and we're getting ready for the weekend. But if you did miss any of the shows earlier this week, catch the podcast to search Covino and Rich wherever you stream your podcasts. And remember, we're streaming live on YouTube now. All the shows have a YouTube stream. Hey, I'm the guy in the red. But you know that cuz you're watching, right?

[Rich]

They see your lips moving.

[Covino]

That's YouTube.com please follow. The YouTube page is free. And again you could watch the radio show and be part of it if you're on YouTube already. It's just at Covino and Rich FSR. So hope you had a great Thursday night. Let's have a great weekend. Let's get into It.

[Rich]

I don't want to talk any baseball right now. The Mets are as awful as it gets. Tied with your Yankees in our Mets Yankees bet with 40 games to go.

[Covino]

Exactly. Tied.

[Rich]

Equally awful.

[Covino]

And they're atrocious, like the hairline of Scotty Brocius. So good luck to your teams. We're going to talk about what you need to watch this weekend. We do it every Friday on our regular time again five to seven on the East. Weekend hobnobbins. What we call it Weekend Hobbin Living for the weekend. We let you know what you need to watch this weekend in the world of sports and entertainment. Plus, we play a game today. Giving away prizes. Just trying to give back to you Chipotle worker or WNBA player. All you have to do is guess. All you have to do is not lose and you win a prize. We'll give away a CNR Nerf football, get you ready for the football season. But it's our way of getting a. Getting to know the WNBA a little more and saying hi to Chipotle. Trying to get some free discounts.

[Rich]

We are also less than three weeks until the kickoff of the NFL season. So maybe a little later we discuss, like, what's that random storyline you're looking forward to that no one's really talking about? Like, what. What is your vested interest? Like, everyone's of course, going to be watching Aaron Rodgers on the Steelers. Everyone's curious about, you know, is Cam Ward really the most untalked about rookie in the last 25 years? So what is that storyline where you're like, no, no, we got to think more about this.

[Covino]

I'm asking on the fly. Could it be about anything? Like, things that are pretty good that not enough people talk about?

[Rich]

I think that's a fantastic question.

[Covino]

Broadening up a little bit.

[Rich]

We'll get to that. We'll talk about something called honey potting.

[Covino]

Do you know this sounds tasty. I don't know. So stick around and find out. F around and find out. We got Iowa Sam on the ones and twos.

[Rich]

Do you know that's a new parenting style? You brought this to my attention the other day. Everyone fafo. It's the return of parents parenting tougher. F around and find out.

[Covino]

Yeah. It doesn't mean I'm gonna slap you upside your head. Like my dad used to say, hey, it's not that. It means let them fail on their own. So if like a kid's like, I'm not wearing a jacket, you say, all right, you don't want to bring A jacket then, then hey f around and find out. Then don't bring a jacket. Don't be complaining to me. Like, that's a great way of teaching them lessons.

[Rich]

I'll give you a great effort and find out. A great fafo as they call it.

[Covino]

Fafo. In fact, I've changed my name since reading this article and hearing about the trend. Steve Fafo Covino.

[Rich]

I thought it was El fafo.

[Covino]

El fo is what they call me now because especially when you co parent, it's very difficult. Rich, you know what I did just to prove that I walk the talk. School started this week and I told my daughter all week, look, if you want to go to the mall, get those new pair of shoes, buy a few fits, the back to school drip. You want to go shopping, you want to buy some trapper keepers, a pencil box and a lunchbox, whatever kids use today. Trapper keeper, I'm like, be ready by one o' clock and yeah, we'll go. Not a problem. Dad wants to do nice things for you. Yeah, dude. I show up three hours later. And not only that, the teenage attitude she gave me that day, she basically told me to beat it. Was giving me all this lip and side eye. You have no idea. Like, well, some of you might. She's a teenage girl. I was like, you know what, fafo? Like, she's not ready. She's talking to me like I'm nobody from nowhere ville. I said, you know what? Not happening. I drove her right to her mom's house. That was it. She's like, dad, I thought we were going to the mall. I'm like, you thought wrong. Drove away and I was like, there's a new fafo in town. El fafo f around and find out, dude, you don't disrespect me and my time and everything else. I'm not on your watch. I got things to do. I gave you a time to be ready. Disrespected. It had me waiting around like an idiot. You talk back to me like I was a chump. What am I, chump?

[Rich]

I'm your dad, fafo.

[Covino]

Man.

[Rich]

This happens in sports and it hurt.

[Covino]

It hurt my feelings. I felt bad because I wanted to take her. She went to school with holes in her shoes.

[Rich]

I wow.

[Covino]

Not really, but you know what I mean.

[Rich]

You don't need to tie everything to sports. But I feel that way. When? Like yesterday. The Mets Kodai Senga was cruising 90 pitches and they took him out. And when they took him out, the minute they were going to the bullpen. In my mind, I was like, bullpen stinks right now. Fafa. We're gonna. We're gonna f around the fo Mets. Give up the lead, lose the game.

[Covino]

Yeah. It doesn't mean you. You pull out the switch. Doesn't mean you beat your kid. Doesn't mean you slap him upside the head. It doesn't mean you give him a knuckle sandwich or whatever threat you got. It means if they think they got all the answers and they're not going to eat because they're not hungry. All right, well, don't eat, but don't ask me for anything later. F run and find out.

[Rich]

I'll give you one last one to wrap it up. Then we'll talk some NFL and some nonsense. My son, he's 5 years old. Every time he puts on his stupid little Crocs. Like, buddy, if you're going to run around the block and downhill, put on your sneakers.

[Covino]

Don't run in those, Buddy boy.

[Rich]

Benny. Don't run in those. I'm fine, Dad. I see my kid running down our hill. We live sort of on a little hill.

[Covino]

It's a Benny Hill.

[Rich]

He's got.

[Covino]

His name is Ben.

[Rich]

He's got his little Crocs on. And I'm like, this little effort is gonna fall. And wouldn't you know it, fall skins his knee. But I hate to see it.

[Covino]

But you know what, Fafo? As Alice in chains said, a lesson learned, bro. Lesson learned. Fafo.

[Rich]

Are you okay, buddy? What did that tell you? What did that tell you?

[Covino]

It's like the Yankees. You already made this reference though, Rich, but keep putting in, Devin Williams. Just keep putting them in.

[Danny]

Yeah, it's like my 2 year old.

[Covino]

Co, he didn't want to be locked.

[Danny]

In his car seat, so we roped him up on top of the suitcase.

[Rich]

Yeah, exactly.

[Covino]

That's exactly it, Danny Garrett.

[Rich]

But no, it's true. It applies to everything. And I. And I think parenting is the number one time where it's like, you know what? Go ahead, do it. Or relationships, Right? How many times has a woman been like, that's what you want to do. Okay? When she's like. When she says, okay, fine, you're like, oh.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh.

[Covino]

It's just letting them fail. That being said. Because of their stubbornness or because they think they're right. But, you know, otherwise, as an adult. That being said, we wish all the kiddos a great school year. Back to school this week on the west side. But we got to talk LeBron James. I know some people hate talking LeBron James. Some people love to just hate on LeBron James.

[Rich]

Well, I think LeBron James isn't really. We're not so much talking about LeBron. He's sort of what we call the jump off to this conversation because on social media, Danny G. Hit us up with a video and my goodness, the comments prove how moronic people are.

[Covino]

Spot, I want Spot, our video guy to be on standby for this one because I think he's gonna have a thing or two to say to you, especially Rich about it. Spot, for the record, is a guy that turned his life around. He's now a gym rat. He had never gotten to the gym ever in our 20 years of knowing him. And then all of a sudden he had a health scare and now he's Mr. Fitness, Mr. Olympia, slim, good body, ripped like Jesus. So be on standby. Spots also on the videos as we speak, LeBron James is a gym rat. 16, they say 16 hour sessions, right? Who, me?

[Danny]

Yeah, he does long days. In the headline, which was trending this morning, says LeBron's workout form ignites online debate.

[Covino]

Online debate. Recent online discussion erupted after users critiqued LeBron James workout while lifting. He's doing like deadlifts. But again, he looks like a specimen. We know his resume, we know his resume, we know how physically fit he is. He comes conditioned every year. People are questioning if this is the way to go, if it's suitable for his athletic build. LeBron, who's set to enter his 23rd season in the NBA, has been defended by many who point out his long standing career.

[Rich]

I mean, dude, can you Repeat that? His 23 year career?

[Covino]

23 season, yeah.

[Rich]

And some fat Jabroni on Twitter is criticizing how he works out. You mean a guy that stayed relatively healthy for two plus decades in the NBA, a multi Bill Time mvp, A guy that's won NBA titles with multiple teams, arguably the goat other than Jordan in most people's minds, you are going to criticize his workout. So I'm not saying you this the.

[Covino]

Collective, you come on you Darvish. So what we're getting at is you got one side saying, well, clearly whatever he's doing is working. The proof is in the longevity and his physical abilities. The absolute peak of of athleticism. And then you have a bunch of gym rats or know it alls. And again, as Denzel Washington says, we'll talk about that later. Everybody has an opinion. They're critiquing his technique, saying he's not doing it right and he's a droney and he's an idiot. And look how he lifts. And he's going to hurt himself. And how do you get results something like that? It's like, I don't know. He's done it for 23 years to me. So whether you like him or not, how could you make fun of a guy who has these results regardless of the form?

[Rich]

There are so many examples of where know it alls put their two cents in. And you're like, you're gonna. You're gonna criticize. I've seen funny videos where, like, random dudes start giving golf swing advice to female professional golfers. He's like, hey, sweetheart, you backswing. It's like, she's a pro, you dope. So I have another example.

[Covino]

All right, But I want people to put their thinking hats on their thinking caps based on this LeBron criticism, which, again, is so easy to want to criticize him because he's such a polarizing guy. I get that. But can you really critique somebody if they look better than you or if it just works for them when it comes to their workout? Because I know Rich, you often get criticized by guys like Spot. I joke about it. I say, you do a bunny boy workout. Rich does the Pee Wee Herman workout where he just, you know, he wakes up in the morning and he picks up two, like, two pound weights, and.

[Rich]

He'S like, no, I. Okay, Listen.

[Covino]

Good morning, Mr. Crabtree.

[Rich]

I look at it this way. When I see people my age, I see so many people in their 40s tearing a peck. Oh, I pulled my shoulder, my knee. You know, you hit middle aged. And so many people, you know, get these unnecessary gym injuries. Which is why, you know what I do now? I've given up heavy free weights. I'm on machines. I'm lifting lighter weights. I mean, guess what?

[Covino]

In fairness, though, you've been on this routine for a long time, and I'm with you. I'm not here trying to hurt myself. I'm not. I'm trying to maintain and just look the best that I can. I'm not trying to be. Again, Mr. Universe. I'm not trying to be a powerlifter. I'm not trying to be Derek Poundstone, and I'm not trying to be a strong man.

[Rich]

And guys like our video producer, Spot, he's like, oh, you don't really work out the right way. Meanwhile, this guy's had shoulder surgeries, knee surgeries, you know, you name it, the guy's always limping around.

[Covino]

Now you're just making things up to suit your Point.

[Rich]

I never had a knee surgery the other day. Were you not limping around with both legs and you were, like, visibly in the studio? Like, oh, yeah, I tweaked my knee.

[Covino]

I never had surgery on it.

[Rich]

I'm sorry. Your shoulder, though, spot wrestles people.

[Covino]

But that had nothing to do with working out. That was hurting before I started working out. So can you really critique somebody about your point, about their workout or anything in life if they're doing better? Like, if some guy.

[Rich]

I have a friend that's broke that tries to get finances, Tries to give financial advice.

[Covino]

I was just gonna say that. But, like, I know people get real butthurt when you talk about their finances for being broke.

[Rich]

There's a guy I know that constantly talks about all the money moves he's making. Like, why do you drive. Why do you drive a 1998 Civic?

[Covino]

No, it's true, man.

[Rich]

You know?

[Covino]

Or I was recently criticized. I went to, you know, several places for vacation. Like, why would you go there? Like, why would I go there? You know, I got criticized because I chose Costa Rica recently. Like, Costa Rica. Some family members, like, why would you go there? Like, you go nowhere. How could you? I mean, have you. Have you ever been there?

[Rich]

You go to the Poconos?

[Covino]

No, but you've never been there, so how could you criticize the place I just went to? And I'm telling you, it's great. You know?

[Rich]

So the example I was gonna give was, I. I call this the Tom Brady. What's happening to LeBron? Right now? I'm calling the TB because there's a clip. We'll never find it, Sam. You could search the Internet forever. We'd never find it.

[Covino]

Well, it's like that photo in your phone. You see it all the time, but when you're looking for it, you can't find it. Oh, 100% that clip is out there. But now that you look for it, you can't find it.

[Rich]

And that's a crazy phenomenon, too, by the way. A picture on your phone, you know, you have.

[Covino]

Mm.

[Rich]

Can never find it.

[Covino]

Can never find it when you need it.

[Rich]

Oh, we renovated the backyard. Let me show you the before picture. I mean, I know I have the before picture.

[Covino]

How do I not wear. And then sometimes you're able to find it. And here's the weird part of the phenomenon. The one time you're able to find, let's say, that picture or the clip it doesn't play. How many times you find a YouTube clip, you're like, you got to see this. And that's when it's loading.

[Rich]

And it's like, do we not have WI fi here? What is going on?

[Covino]

Wait, hold on. I can't believe it's not playing standby.

[Rich]

It's about to play. It's about to play.

[Covino]

The world does not want me to have this right now.

[Rich]

I don't know what that.

[Covino]

I don't know what that phenomenon is, but just accept it.

[Rich]

Oh, it's. Without a doubt. You tried the minute you like.

[Covino]

I call it the Cavino because it happens to me all the time.

[Rich]

Happened to me just the other day. I told one of the dads, like, a little back to school thing. I'm like, yo, did you see the Ohtani triple play? No, I missed it. I'm like, yo, you got to see this. Of course, at that point, at that.

[Covino]

Moment, isn't that a breakfast here at Denny's?

[Rich]

Oh, the Otani triple play.

[Covino]

Yeah. Only in Los Angeles. The rest of you guys are missing out.

[Rich]

The Otani triple play comes with a bacon and sausage.

[Covino]

Yep.

[Rich]

Ed Ham. I call it the Brady. We'll never find this clip, but back in the day when Tom, you know, before he chose football over his family, there was a time he came to a post game press conference and he was wearing some really stylish sweater that obviously Giselle had bought for him, had purchased for him. He gets up to the podium and he looks like, damn Derek Zoolander. He looks like, oh, you nailed it.

[Covino]

His hair was all spiky. I remember it was the hair that really stood out.

[Rich]

I know it's hard being so ridiculously good looking.

[Covino]

He shows up like handsome Squidward.

[Rich]

He looked like handsome Squidward with a Zoolander outfit on.

[Covino]

And he really did.

[Rich]

And some, with all due respect, some fat reporter in a polo shirt with a lanyard around his neck.

[Covino]

Don't say that. Say fatso, it's coming back.

[Rich]

Oh, fatso.

[Covino]

Yeah, it has a different, like, lighter ring to it.

[Rich]

Some fatso, there you go. With a polo shirt where the buttons were popping open in the top, with a lanyard around his neck with a comb over was like, tom, what's with the sweater? And Tom Brady just goes. I quote, Tom Brady. He didn't say anything. He just goes. And that, ha ha, was a. You're criticizing me.

[Covino]

He's like, you. And I just.

[Rich]

I remember the guy criticized Brady sweater. Brady looked at him and gave a little.

[Covino]

He gave him a Quinn Leonard like.

[Rich]

And I think. I think for anyone criticizing the workout routine of LeBron James, he should give the world The Tom Brady.

[Covino]

Yeah. You could critique anything else. His work ethic, his 16 hour a day gym sessions, his form. It doesn't matter. Whatever he's doing is working. Not only on the court, but he's in great shape. Right. I mean, he looks fantastic for his age, for anybody. So maybe his form isn't correct for, again, a power lifter or a gym rat or whatever. But whatever he's doing, you know, he knows his limits. He's a professional athlete. The people criticizing him. Probably not.

[Rich]

I always find it interesting. I don't think we could ever criticize someone that is super successful at that. Like, it's odd to me. Like, you again, it's like.

[Covino]

But we all sort of do that in a way, right? And that's why, honestly, I think that's what separates our show from other shows. I think we always factor in, like, I might not be a fan of this guy or frustrated with this person, but they're still way better at this game than we were.

[Rich]

I can hate the Mets.

[Covino]

Yeah, we're, we're, we're just fans. And, and I think that's what separates this show. There's so many people that criticize from the sideline. And it's, it's a wild thing that people need to keep in mind is perspective. That needs to change a little bit. It's like, really, you're criticizing them. Think about that.

[Rich]

We've all seen the.

[Covino]

In fact, that's what Denzel Washington's mad about. We'll play that clip later on.

[Rich]

We've, we've all seen. Oh, the word. Fatso's in style now, right?

[Covino]

Kind of. I hear, I hear fatso. It's like a dirty word. Because it is. It's mean. But fats, fat. So feels a little lighter than you're just fat. And I hear it used a lot more recently than you have in the.

[Rich]

Past, like five plus years bringing back fatso. Well, how about this? How about some fatso watching like, I don't know, the Dallas Cowboy cheerleaders Netflix show and criticizing them.

[Covino]

America's sweetheart.

[Rich]

Yeah, some, some dude that is using his belly button for cheese dip while he's sitting on the couch. Fatso, like, cutting down these women. Like, yeah, she's all right. Yeah, she's all right. It's like seeing your not attractive friend swiping on Tinder or Bumble or something. And you're like, you're, you're saying no to her. You should say yes to anyone.

[Covino]

I think it's just LeBron's a polarizing guy. So no matter what he does, it's going to get criticized. And the latest, if you just joined us, Kavino and Rich in for Dan Patrick. Yeah. A lot of things he does is worthy of criticism. The way he flops. You could talk about the way he handled the Bronnie James thing. Anything. The way he reads. The way he reads.

[Rich]

He reads the first page of every book.

[Covino]

Exactly. Yeah. There's plenty of things to criticize, but the latest was his form and his technique at the gym. And look at this guy. Everything he's doing is wrong. And can you really critique if someone looks better and it works for them? Like, what I'm thinking, too, when I'm watching him. Like, deadlift is all right. Maybe his forms not right, but he knows that if he pushes any further, that's how he might hurt himself. Like, this is just enough for me. Like, doing this works for me. Like, people know their own. People at that level especially know their own body.

[Rich]

So have you ever seen those memes, like, work out for what you do? And you see someone at the gym, you're like, what are they doing? And what's that? Olympics about curling. It's someone that's just down on the floor doing this one motion, and you're like, what are they working out to do? And you're like, oh, they're there. Yeah, that's what they do work out for you do. LeBron James clearly knows how to work.

[Covino]

Out what you're shooting for. Like, we brought up our buddy Spot, who, if it wasn't six something in the morning on the west coast, he'd probably be debating with you. But he's lifting to get strong and for strength in a lot of ways. You know, Rich lifts for. What do they call glamour muscles? What do we call them? Like, just to look good in a T shirt.

[Rich]

Yeah. You just don't. Just don't. You don't want to look sloppy to maintain.

[Covino]

And I'm the same way. I'm trying to look lighter. Oh, ouch.

[Rich]

I don't even know what he said.

[Covino]

He said, when's that gonna happen?

[Rich]

Oh, do you mean the guy that didn't do a thing for 35 years, then all suddenly slim good buddy?

[Covino]

I mean, the guy who Learned more in 2 years than you learned your.

[Rich]

Whole life to mean the guy who's always injured, hobbled around the studio because.

[Covino]

That'S your go to. Because you don't understand what working out is.

[Dan Patrick]

Wow.

[Rich]

You could try all you want. Yeah, but you won't beat me in A rat.

[Covino]

Go play with your five pound dumbbells. I'm sure the women will lend them to you. The Pee Wee Herman edition signature series.

[Rich]

I do. I do fight the women at the gym for those small weights.

[Covino]

Yeah, Rich does use pink dumbbells.

[Rich]

They're cuter.

[Covino]

Which is.

[Rich]

How's that pink bowling ball treat you?

[Covino]

Yeah.

[Rich]

Has that five pound bowling ball treating you?

[Covino]

So can you critique someone about their workouts? If they're in better shape, if they look better, and if it works for them, who cares? Beat it. Mind your business.

[Rich]

That's what I'm saying.

[Covino]

He's at the gym 16 hours a day. They say 16 hour sessions, which sounds insane, but it's got to be something to what he's doing to last this long at that level. So maybe we should take a page from the LeBron book that he never reads and instead of criticizing him, say, hey, maybe this works.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep.

[Rich]

No diggity. No doubt. All right, listen, we're gonna get to a bunch. There's. There's a big rivalry that.

[Covino]

By the way, can you tell me spot what he's doing wrong before you move on?

[Rich]

Why are you asking him?

[Covino]

Because we're showing the clip on our YouTube page. Another reason to check us out. YouTube.com rich fsr He's. He's doing these deadlifts. But, like, I'm no.

[Rich]

John based out.

[Covino]

I'm no John based out there, so I'm not seeing what the problem is. It's. Everyone thinks they know everything. It's.

[Rich]

I mean, he.

[Covino]

I wouldn't begin to know because I don't know exactly what his intention is exactly. Because he's doing something between a deadlift and a Romanian deadlift. He's yanking up the weight here.

[Rich]

This guy grew.

[Covino]

Amazing. Is that why he's wearing this war helmet? His lower back is a little bit too arched. You could argue.

[Danny]

I don't know, There's.

[Covino]

I mean, if I. You really have to go in and critique every little thing.

[Rich]

But then you look at him.

[Covino]

Look at his. His lean muscle mass. He's great shape. All right, so we all. It's like, what do I do?

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[Covino]

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