The Best of the Week The Dan Patrick Show

Summary

The Dan Patrick Show – Episode: The Best of the Week Release Date: April 5, 2025

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Overview

In this episode of The Dan Patrick Show, host Dan Patrick engages in a compelling conversation with John Shire, the esteemed head coach of the Duke Blue Devils men's basketball team. As Duke advances to the Final Four, Shire shares his insights on coaching philosophy, team dynamics, and the evolving landscape of college basketball. The discussion is enriched with personal anecdotes, strategic perspectives, and memorable quotes that offer listeners an in-depth look into the world of collegiate sports leadership.

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Interview with John Shire

Transition to Head Coaching [02:47 – 03:22]

Dan Patrick opens the segment by introducing John Shire, highlighting his journey from player to assistant coach, and now, head coach of Duke. Shire expresses his excitement about coaching the team in the Final Four, describing the experience as "surreal" and akin to the "promised land." He emphasizes his hunger for success while maintaining humility about the opportunity.

Notable Quote:

“I tried to find connections about, you know, really why, you know, others weren't as successful and what went wrong... because in most cases, it wasn't about what went right.” – John Shire [03:45]

Coaching Philosophy and Team Building [04:52 – 07:14]

Shire delves into his approach to building a successful team in modern college basketball, which balances talented freshmen with experienced transfer players. He underscores the importance of continuity and developing players over time, rather than following a cookie-cutter model. Shire highlights the unique blend of returning players and new recruits that contribute to Duke's competitive edge.

Notable Quote:

“I just think for these guys there's a level of they need to always hear the truth. You have to hit them right between the eyes. But also at the same time you have to give them really good confidence...” – John Shire [06:42]

Handling Pressure and Player Development [07:14 – 09:01]

Addressing the pressures of high-stakes games, Shire shares his personal experiences from his first NCAA tournament game, emphasizing the importance of fostering a mindset of playing to win rather than to avoid losing. He discusses his strategies for instilling confidence in freshmen players who are navigating the intense environment of the tournament.

Notable Quote:

“I think there's a tendency, Dan, to, when you're the higher seed, to play not to lose instead of playing to win.” – John Shire [07:16]

Reflections on Memorable Games [08:05 – 09:13]

Shire reminisces about the famed Butler vs. Duke national title game, particularly focusing on the pivotal moments that defined the game. He reflects on his defensive strategies and the intense emotions tied to clutch plays, highlighting the thin margins that separate victory from defeat.

Notable Quote:

“The half court shot was something I'll never forget. I was already thinking about the, how we were going to win with the timeout or what we were going to do.” – John Shire [08:09]

Team Culture and Player Loyalty [29:40 – 33:15]

Shire contrasts the shifting dynamics of college basketball, where player turnover has increased due to factors like the transfer portal and NIL (Name, Image, Likeness) deals. He takes pride in Duke's model, where players exhibit loyalty and a strong connection to the team and coach, fostering a family-like culture that prioritizes long-term development over short-term gains.

Notable Quote:

“Our guys aren't racing to the portal. They believe in their coach. There's a family culture there they're all in.” – John Shire [30:32]

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Memorable Highlights and Quotes

• On Authenticity in Coaching:

  “I'm going to be myself and wherever that takes us, you know, I can live with at the end of the day because that's the only way I'm going to succeed.” – John Shire [03:45]

• On Player Responsibility:

  “He just has to take ownership of him, because he's not.” – John Shire [11:15]

• On Legacy and Longevity:

  “I'm going to say something about glory for Rory.” – John Shire [34:05]

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Concluding Thoughts

John Shire's interview on The Dan Patrick Show offers a profound look into the complexities of coaching at the highest levels of college basketball. From strategic team building and player development to navigating the evolving challenges of the sport, Shire's insights provide valuable lessons on leadership, authenticity, and fostering a cohesive team culture. His reflections on past games and the future of college basketball underscore the delicate balance between honoring tradition and embracing change.

For fans and enthusiasts who seek to understand the intricacies of collegiate sports coaching, this episode delivers a rich and engaging narrative, punctuated by Shire's candid perspectives and heartfelt anecdotes.

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Transcript

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[Dan Patrick]

You are listening to the Dan Patrick show on Fox Sports Radio. John Shire, the third season Duke headband basketball coach moving into the Final Four. You've been there as a player, you've been there as an assistant coach. What's it like to be there as a head coach?

[John Shire]

Dan?

[Jim Nantz]

Well, it's great to be with you, you know, couldn't be more excited about this opportunity. I'll feel it, you know, I'll feel it in person in San Antonio, but to be honest with you, it feels surreal, you know, like it's the promised land. Obviously, we're hungry for more, but couldn't be more excited about this opportunity.

[Dan Patrick]

You always want to be the guy who follows the guy who follows the legend. I'll go back to John Wooden and, you know, you didn't get that op. You got the opportunity to coach, but you're following the legend in Mike Shashevsky. I don't know if you did research or talk to people who were the ones following the legend as opposed to following the person following the legend.

[Jim Nantz]

Well, you know what, Dan? I did more research on successions than think you can imagine, you know, especially in sport. Right. But even in business. And you. I tried to find connections about, you know, really why, you know, others weren't as successful and what went wrong and because in most cases, it wasn't about what went right. You know, it's, it's been, it's been very difficult. And I think the, the first and most important thing I found was to be really connected with, you know, the, the former coach or the, the transition. And for me, you know, the fact that Coach K and I are still as close as could be and the, the, the succession, me and him were so connected about what had to change and what had to improve and what I had to do. But then obviously, you're not going to win if you try to be somebody else. And so I, I had to come to terms very quickly with, I'm not coach. K not going to try to be him. I'm not going to try to coach like him. I'm going to, I'm going to be myself and wherever that takes us, you know, I can live with at the end of the day because that's the only way I'm going to succeed.

[Dan Patrick]

Is there a new philosophy on how to build a team in college basketball? You, you guys might be the anomaly. You got three freshmen who are going to be lottery picks, but you're seeing a lot of these teams that a couple of freshmen, but it's really about getting these, you know, transfer guys or guys who are going to stay for three or four years.

[Jim Nantz]

Yeah, I think it has changed a lot. I think the biggest difference is now you have to build your team based on year to year. You know, it's, and look, it's when I played, this is only 15 years ago when I played the starting lineup in my group, we had over 100 starting game, over 100 games together. And look, the team we're playing in Houston, Houston has great experience together but for the most part it is year to year. I think for me the challenge is trying to find some level of continuity which I think still can be done in a different way. We're still bringing in really talented, ready made players that we develop over the course of the year and have big expectations like the guys you, you know, you had mentioned as freshmen now. But I think we, we do it our own way and that's what I'm proud of. You know, I think it's not going to be cookie cutter. We need this amount of transfers, returners, freshmen. I think it's based on the, the level of readiness that, that the freshman we, we recruit have and then also the returners we can possibly bring back. And I think as you look at our roster, Dan, the, the, the combination of the CEON James, the Malik Browns, the Mason Gillis with the Tyrese Proctor and Caleb Foster, well that helps the freshman having some level of experience with them.

[Dan Patrick]

How would you do against Proctor in a shooting contest?

[Jim Nantz]

I would beat him.

[John Shire]

Beat me in.

[Jim Nantz]

The game, but I'm gonna beat any of our guys still, I think.

[Dan Patrick]

Dan, how do you coach a freshman as opposed to a junior senior?

[Jim Nantz]

I just think for these guys there's a level of they need to always hear the truth. You have to hit them right between the eyes. But also at the same time you have to give them really good confidence because they're going through something they've never experienced before. You know, even I'M like, I'm so impressed with the maturity these guys have. Playing in my first NCAA tournament game, you know, I remember how I felt and these guys haven't acted like it's.

[Dan Patrick]

How did you feel?

[Jim Nantz]

I felt, you know, jittery, you know, I felt, you know, pressure. You know, we were six seed playing VCU as an 11 seed, and you just. I think there's a tendency, Dan, to, when you're the higher seed, to play not to lose instead of playing to win. And so I've tried to just ingrain in them from day one in the preseason of being the hunters, you know, not the hunted, and just going after this thing. And they've embraced that and they've done that, but I think with the freshmen, just to continue to give them confidence at the same time of trying to prepare them for things that they hadn't seen before. And that's what I've tried to do.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Duke's head coach, John Shire, joining us on the program. Take me back to the Butler national title game when you want. Gordon Hayward wasn't your guy, was he? You weren't.

[Jim Nantz]

He wasn't my guy in terms of me guarding him.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah.

[Jim Nantz]

I was ahead on the play that he got the. So I think the people always think about the last half court shot, which is right there. The one before that he had. We are under out of bounds, we were up by one, and he had an isolation play at the top of the key and he ended up shooting about like a 15 footer from the baseline. I thought it was going in, Dan. I was right under the basket hit. Just probably, if it's an inch shorter, it goes in, it goes long. So that shot to me was, was the one that scared me. I was already thinking about the, the how we were going to win with the timeout or what we were going to do. But the half court shot was something I'll never forget. And I, I just, I felt it was off for the last second. I was ahead on the play, but. But thank God he missed it.

[Dan Patrick]

If he hit that shot, he becomes Leitner.

[Jim Nantz]

Yeah, you know what? And probably, I don't know if I'm the head coach to Duke. I don't know if I'm. I think the whole. I think my whole life is different. You know, I think there's a lot of things that could be different from, from, from that shot.

[Dan Patrick]

But do you explain to your kids, and I don't know if you feel this, but the late New Years, even J.J. redick, people hated Duke? Yeah, it doesn't feel that way. This is. This is a team that people may root for, maybe not root against, but they're not, you know, they're. They're like, hey, Cooper Flag looks great. I mean, you got it seems like a fun team. They play, you know, great offense and defense. Are you guys embraceable?

[Jim Nantz]

I sure hope so. And look, it's funny because I think we are always embraceable, but like you said, I think it's a different feeling, and I can't explain why that is. I hope it's the fact that you have a group of really talented players that really embrace playing the right way. You know, it's led to some beautiful offense and they're tough, you know, they're not afraid of anything. So I think that combination maybe has been received well. But again, not. J.J. redick was the same. I don't know. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

[Dan Patrick]

Have you had the conversation with Cooper Flag about coming back?

[Jim Nantz]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Is there going to be a conversation?

[Jim Nantz]

No.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[Jim Nantz]

Although I can dream about that.

[Dan Patrick]

Yes, you can.

[Jim Nantz]

I just, you know, I think that's all it is in this case. I think it's a dream, and I think he's got to take the next dream in his life and be the top pick in the NBA draft and start his professional career.

[Dan Patrick]

Before I let you go, I remember talking to Steve Nash and he said during his career with Phoenix, coaches told him he was too unselfish. There are times where I see Cooper Flag maybe too unselfish. The Phoenix Suns had to tell Steve Nash to shoot more. Is Cooper Flag sort of in that it seems like he's really, really engaged to get everybody involved. And maybe I'm not going to say the detriment you're at the Final Four, but are there times when you want him to be a little more selfish?

[Jim Nantz]

I think you hit the nail on the head with him, Dan, because he's part of his. What makes him so special is him bringing along his teammates and his feel for his passing, like, is an incredible weapon for our team. But also he can want to defer at times to get them going and word our best. He's at our best. When he's in complete attack mode, teammates will get shots from that, but that's something I have to. It's probably the biggest thing we have to get on him about. It's just making sure he's not deferring and continually just looking to dominate, which he can.

[Dan Patrick]

Good luck in the Final Four. John, great to connect with you again. Thank you.

[Jim Nantz]

Thanks for having me. Appreciate you.

[Dan Patrick]

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[John Shire]

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[Jim Nantz]

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[John Shire]

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[Jim Nantz]

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[John Shire]

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[Dan Patrick]

Hello friends. Jim, Dan's hall of Famer lead play by play, voice, NFL and cbs. Host of the Masters on cbs. But this week, big time Houston Cougar fan Jim joining us on the program. How nervous do you get before watching your Cougars play?

[John Shire]

Before, during, and even after? I love hearing you say hello friends, by the way. That a good way to start my day, my friend. But I am so stoked about this weekend. Listen, we all have that little boy inside of us, you know, that fan that still lives and has a place in your heart. What sports used to feel like, I have it with all things University of Houston. So football, basketball, whatever it might be. But I am absolutely in love with this team. And Kelvin Sampson, the head coach, he's just incredible. And I will be there in the stands wearing red and cheering us on against the mighty Duke Blue Devils come Saturday evening.

[Dan Patrick]

How much did f slam a jama break your heart?

[John Shire]

Oh, big time. April 4, 1983. I was sitting in the stands in the, in Albuquerque, in the pit at the opposite end from the Lorenzo Charles game winning basket. And you know that that date, as you can tell, was only 42 years ago. It still is very much in my heart 42 years ago. Tomorrow it's, it's front and center. You know, I gotta tell you, that was a pivotal day in my life and career because, you know, I people don't know this. It's more than just having gone to the school My whole career really was channeled being on the golf team and the golf coach introducing me to Guy Lewis, the Hall of Fame coach for Houston, who said, young man, I'd like you to be our public address announcer at our home basketball games. And that turned into me then while still a student hosting his coaches show on the NBC affiliate. It gave me cred when I was just 20 years old. So yeah, it's been a long running love affair for some reason. They even have a banner now right next to the names of Elvin Hayes and Kim Olajuwon and Clyde Drexler and Otis Birdsong. It's nuts commemorating my, my own NCAA tournament years and gifts of being able to do the tournament for so long. But in that 83 game against NC State, I actually rode to the pit on the bus with the team. These were my buddies, you know, I named Clyde the Glide. And we were just a very close knit group. Guy Lewis said, you come with us.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, you came up with Clyde the Glide?

[John Shire]

Oh, yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay, you didn't know that. Did you come up with five slam a jama?

[John Shire]

I did not, Thomas. Tommy Bonk did.

[Dan Patrick]

Oh yeah, great writer Tommy.

[John Shire]

Tommy came up with that. Yeah, I wrote the forward to Clyde's book. And you know, we're all of us are still great friends to this day. Well, they showed up last year when they had that jersey banner raise and I love these guys. Anyway, here we are in Albuquerque and I don't have a credential or a ticket. I just ride in with the team. Guy says, meet us back here after the game, get back to the hotel. So I go into this arena two and a half hours before the game and where do you go? There are no seats with backs. There's only benches. And there in the corner behind a basket was the CBS set. And I looked up and there was Brent Musburger running through the elements of the show. He was hosting it. It was Gary Bender. I love Gary. Gary and Billy Packer were going to be calling the game. So I thought, that's where I'm going to sit. I sat right up against the set. I mean, Brent was. I really could have tied his shoes. It was that close. And I was just looking at him. I was the only guy in the arena. He was probably wondering, why is this punk hanging out this close? And I saw Bill Egan, his stage manager, with whom I would later work, saying, let's go through this. And I turned around, I saw there's a teleprompter there. I could hear everything was three Feet away from me. And, I mean, I was mesmerized that the great Brett Musburger, who I adore and love to this day, was right there. And that was a thrill for me. Three years later, as fate would have it, Brent's now calling the games. CBS is in an arena that no longer exists in Dallas. They have a set just like the one in Albuquerque, and I'm the guy that was sitting in that chair. Three years later, in 86, I was hosting the Final Four, and I was pitching it to Brent courtside at the start of the broadcast. So I've been given a lot of blessings, but that's a very big one.

[Dan Patrick]

If I said you can call one more Masters or one more super bowl, but you have to choose which one. What? I'm a journalist. I got to ask these questions.

[Sarah Spain]

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[Dan Patrick]

It's a good problem to have, by the way.

[John Shire]

It's a good problem.

[Dan Patrick]

Masters or one more Super Bowl.

[John Shire]

I think you know the answer to that. I mean, I'll let you answer it. You know the answer to that. As I listen, I've been given the blessing of having. I think it's the fourth most super bowl calls of all time, tied with Kurt Gowdy.

[Covino and Rich]

So.

[John Shire]

They'Re all special. But I wouldn't trade the Masters for anything in. In the world. So, yeah, it's important to me. In a major championship golf, we have the PGA Championship. That. That means a lot to me, big time. I got to call the Open Championship over on the BBC. For a number of years, when the BBC still had it, I was the foreign voice over there. The only one I've never called is the U.S. open, which, you know, would have been a thrill to have the chance to do a national Open because I care so much about it. But the Masters is just. It's still. It's again, that little boy we talked about what's inside here, what's inside the heart. I wanted to be one of those voices. I didn't care about being on television. I want to be able to tell the stories like the voices of my youth were telling me long ago.

[Dan Patrick]

He's Jim Nance, and he will be calling the Masters. What is this, the 40th?

[John Shire]

It'll be number 40.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah.

[John Shire]

Which in the broadcasting longevity graphic, if you have it there, if Todd can put it up. You're looking over at Todd.

[Dan Patrick]

He can't do it. Jim. Jim, he could barely get you on the phone.

[John Shire]

I tie the great Vern Lundquist for the broadcast longevity records.

[Dan Patrick]

So this is a 11 year retirement tour. Is that what this is going to be?

[John Shire]

No, listen, I actually have it. We had this discussion on your show in 2016. Melissa Miller, my longtime chief of staff. This thing, like, just went viral last week for no good reason. It was not the story. I just happened to say it in conversation. But when it gets spun, like I am declaring or making an announcement, this is my retirement, I would never want that attention. I would never do that. I just happened to say, like I said on your show nine years ago, and I said to Richard Deitch and I said to. To many other people out there through the years, Alex Myers and some other guys, I said that would be. In a perfect world, my last show, I'd be able to make it if I could. God willing, CBS willing, Augusta willing. I would love to get to the hundredth playing of the Masters Tournament. And if that's the case, if we did get there, that'd probably be my retirement date. But I say that with a twinkle in my eye. D. I don't really think about it. I'm thinking about this show now, by the way. Maybe I don't make it there. Maybe I go beyond it. I don't want to start putting a countdown clock on it.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. But I got a shop for a gift for you. And. And so I don't know, do I have 11 years to get you something or.

[John Shire]

Yeah, okay. Yeah, don't get me one of those rocking chairs.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I'm not going to get you that.

[John Shire]

You know, the first time I said it, and you're one of the first I ever said it to. And we did a whole show on this. My great teammate Kevin McHale, not the basketball player, got a countdown clock. And I showed up at our next golf event, and it was in the corner of our tower, and it said like, 20 years, 18 days. And the second was going like, you see, down to Times Square.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[John Shire]

And I thought it was funny. It was a nice gag gift. But there it was the next week and the week after, and it really made me uncomfortable. I did not like seeing my life go by like that. I said, you got to take that thing down. So I don't even want to think that way. No, there's no. There's no announcement here. All I know is I'm blessed enough to be able to be there next week for the 40th, and I'm going to give it my all with deep appreciation in my heart.

[Dan Patrick]

Can you show up and just play golf at Augusta?

[John Shire]

No, no, I wouldn't probably show up anywhere and just Assume anything. No, no, I would never do that. No. I've been invited as a guest.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[John Shire]

Which has been a great gift. I played there a couple of times with Arnold Palmer, by the way. Just a name drop on you here. That was one of my. Several of my greatest thrills. And I've had some really treasured invitations to play there, and I have through the years. Most recently March a year ago.

[Dan Patrick]

And what'd you shoot?

[John Shire]

It was a big number. It was a really big number.

[Dan Patrick]

3. Was it three digits?

[John Shire]

No, not that big. Okay, not that big.

[Dan Patrick]

90S.

[John Shire]

Sadly, it's not that far away from it, but it was not good. It took me a long time before I've been registered a par. Now. I. I used to, you know, I say, like, I played there a lot of times, but I would get stuck on you. Got to realize I'm in my 60s now. I mean, I first started coming to Augusta when I was three and a half years out of college, and I was 26 years old. I could still hit it. I could hit it. I could take the club back to parallel and all these things I can't do any longer. And I could shoot in the mid to high 70s. You know, those days are gone for me there at Augusta or anywhere else for that matter.

[Dan Patrick]

I always marveled that you go from March Madness, where your voice is used differently and a football game your voice is used differently, to then the Masters, where your voice is used differently.

[Sarah Spain]

Okay.

[Dan Patrick]

And you don't have that much separation between March Madness and the Masters, but just gearing up and voice wise and then not gearing down, but, like, how do you reset to go now? This is. My mindset's all different. My voice is completely different.

[John Shire]

I don't think about it at all. I'm glad you asked this question, because if you did, it doesn't sound authentic to me. If you were to take your show right now and step outside from that warm fireplace environment you have, and you happen to walk outside and you were ringside for a UFC bout or you were right in the middle of Auburn, Alabama, in football, and you continued your show with the next segment, would your voice be like this? No, it wouldn't be, because there'd be all this ambiance sound, There'd be all this energy and excitement, and you would naturally feel like you have to push your voice to cut through that. I never have given that a thought in my life. I just go with whatever the environment feels like, where I feel like I've got to take my voice and Augusta is not a screaming place. Golf isn't a screaming sport. It's much more mellow. It's more like. Truthfully, it's more like the setting that I'm looking at you in right now. It's, it's, it's, it's a conversation piece. I find it a great challenge. I know probably most people think, how challenging is it? It's not like calling a basketball game up and down the floor. No, I actually think it puts a premium on your ability to tell a story and to also be able to see what your skill set is as far as being able to communicate and your word choices and your phraseology and your ability to be succinct or long form storytelling. I actually think it's the greatest demand that I've ever had in my career. And I think a lot of people have done. Golf would say the same thing.

[Dan Patrick]

More concerned about the future of college basketball or the future of golf.

[John Shire]

Not concerned about the future of golf. It's been around for 500 years.

[Dan Patrick]

But with live, what about it? Those players playing there, what, like, do we merge? Does golf need to merge?

[John Shire]

I don't, I don't know. The answer to that. Now lives, I think, is in its fourth year. There hasn't been a whole lot of change in the last year. If you've noticed, the turnover has slowed down. Meanwhile, the PGA Tour is developing a lot of great young players. Let's take a guy like Ludwig Oberg, who might win next week, for example. I think the PGA Tour is doing just fine. And that's not an indictment of live by any means. But my concern on your question is future college basketball.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, that.

[John Shire]

That may not live as we know it another 500 years. It may not live another 15 years because the portal and the nil. It's difficult. I don't paint it doom and gloom. I don't want to say it's bound to be extinct. It's not going to be. But what we knew it as, what we grew up with, that doesn't, that model doesn't exist anymore. And some people have a real problem with that. This is. I want to put a pitch in here for my, my school here, the University of Houston. As we go into this weekend. We represent college basketball the way we used to know it better than anybody. Maybe in America. Our guys stay. We had everybody come back except Jamal Shedd, who was done eligibility and went to the NBA. He was a great leader. I grieve that he's not being able to experience his final four. But we have guys that have been there four or five because of the extra Covid year, even six years for Juwan Roberts. And yeah, we have to play the nil game. But our guys aren't racing to the portal. They believe in their coach. There's a family culture there they're all in. And they love their school, they love their brotherhood and bonding with their teammates and they love that Sampson family. And in a day where we have to every year be reintroduced to major programs and say, who are the newcomers this year we're going to get to watch for one year. Well, Houston, we've gone through a long stretch and yet we've had to see guys graduate. But by and large, by and large, we are the model that won back in the 90s. Our guys stay and they care. And it's neat to see the word loyalty still exist and not racing to a portal. I mean, my last few years of doing basketball, I did the tournament for 37 years, either hosting or calling it. You know, I've seen five year players who were at five different major division one programs, even conferences. You know, you bring a guy in, you train him, you coach him and next thing you know, the season ends and he's looking to see what opportunities are somewhere else. So I'm proud of this bunch. I'm proud of what Kelvin has developed. And this is our seventh time at the Final Four. That's a major number. Second in four years under coach Sampson, but we've never won the championship. We got to beat a good Duke team to get to Monday night. But maybe this is our year. We still get undervalued, underrated. I had someone say to me yesterday, yeah, you guys are good, but Duke's this, this and this and this. Okay, I hear that every game. I heard it going into the Tennessee game. I heard it going to the Purdue game or going into the Big 12 Conference, which we've been in for two years. And we've absolutely run away with the conference. Two for two, very strong basketball conference.

[Dan Patrick]

No, I like this. I like Jim Nance fan. I like this. The.

[John Shire]

You know, you haven't had this before. Let it out somewh, you know, and.

[Dan Patrick]

I'm gonna help you. When Ludwig Oberg wins and you go Oberg. Oh my. Oh, it's a tribute to Dick Kenberg.

[John Shire]

I like that. You know. You know how much I treasure the history of our industry and the names of yesteryear and Dick worked the masters with us probably the last 10 years of his career.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[John Shire]

Oh, my. Ludwig Oberg.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[John Shire]

There you go, that's not bad. I'll put that one. I'll put that one older. What should I say when McElroy completes the career Grand Slam instead? Come on. On the spot. You got to feel it. It's got to be organic.

[Dan Patrick]

It's glory for Rory. He completes.

[John Shire]

That's not bad. Glory for Rory.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[John Shire]

Let's go.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you.

[John Shire]

I'm going to tell you right now, glory for Rory.

[Dan Patrick]

It'll make the show wins next week. Yeah.

[John Shire]

It may not be the final pipe call. It will be said somewhere from the end of the competition.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay.

[John Shire]

But when we sign off the air, the glory for Rory. I will be channeling you, Dan, at that moment. You have my word. Right now, if McElroy wins, I'm going to say something about glory for Rory.

[Dan Patrick]

And you don't have to mention my name. You don't.

[John Shire]

I was going to ask you what kind of attribution. Now, we don't run credits at Augusta, but maybe we can find a graphic that says glory for Rory.

[Dan Patrick]

Jim Worry. Jim Nance's. Jim Nance's words provided by Dan Patrick.

[John Shire]

There you go.

[Dan Patrick]

By the way, I. I did have my bad moment with CBS when they tried to hire me years ago. Sean McManus.

[John Shire]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. You never heard this story? No, no, it's. It. I was mid-90s. I'm a big deal at Sports center, and he wants to hire me at cbs. He said, pick any job. You can pick any job. And then I said, but I don't want to go to CBS Sport because that's all you. I think you just had basketball. You had just lost football or something. And we, We.

[John Shire]

We had the NCAA Tournament.

[Sarah Spain]

Yeah.

[Dan Patrick]

But I was gonna also had.

[John Shire]

We also had a little tradition unlike any.

[Dan Patrick]

They wouldn't have let me. They would have let me.

[John Shire]

PGA Tour package. So it's not sport.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Oh, no, it's terrible.

[John Shire]

Championship.

[Dan Patrick]

I know, but I said that I was going to take Pat O'Brien's job, and Sean says, pick a job. And then I was so smug and I go, but I don't want to go to CBS Sport. Terrible. I mean, we could have been cohorts.

[John Shire]

I feel like we are, anyway.

[Dan Patrick]

We are. We are.

[John Shire]

I mean, I was talking about my Houston Cougars and a brotherhood. I truly feel like we are. And there's some others that are kind of. Now we're in the same age bracket here.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah.

[John Shire]

We all have been fortunate enough to be on national broadcast for about the same length of time.

[Dan Patrick]

Yep. Very lucky. Very lucky.

[John Shire]

You welcome And I think you know how much I love you and how awesome I know you are, so we have that. So I do feel like we're. We're cohorts. Cohorts is what you call them. Colleagues.

[Dan Patrick]

Just remember, it's glory for Rory. He has completed the career grand slam.

[John Shire]

You're wanting it right over the pot now.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah. Oberg. Oh, my.

[John Shire]

Hey, what happened to the old sound alike contest we used to have about this time of year?

[Dan Patrick]

Well, when you lost your own sound alike contest, I canceled it. We had somebody who sounded better as you than you, and I thought, you know what I did, I did.

[John Shire]

I lost. I lost a guy from. I think he was from Arizona.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[John Shire]

That was fun. I think we need to bring it back.

[Dan Patrick]

All right, I'll talk to my people.

[John Shire]

I'll talk to my people. We'll see if we can work it out.

[Dan Patrick]

Thank you. Thank you. Great to talk to you. Have fun.

[John Shire]

Appreciate you. Love you, pal.

[Dan Patrick]

See you, buddy.

[John Shire]

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[Dan Patrick]

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[Covino and Rich]

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[Jim Nantz]

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[John Shire]

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[Jim Nantz]

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[John Shire]

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[Dan Patrick]

We got the final four coming up. Florida, Auburn, Houston and Duke. Duke was favored by four and a half. It went up to five and a half. I think that was two days ago. I kind of like Houston with the points there, Florida and Auburn. I'd like Auburn to win that outright. Now, once again, entertainment purposes only. If you want to hear the real professionals Dan Patrick Takes a Gamble podcast, we recorded that yesterday. Shay and Irving Bad Larry Dylan, the graphics guy [e-mail] Women's Final Four tonight, Texas against South Carolina, Connecticut against ucla. The Raiders extend Gino Smith and the Cardinals locked up one of my favorite players and he plays for a team that's not very good. The Cards locking up Trey McBride. He's a tight end. I don't think he scores many touchdowns, but it feels like he is. He's all over the place. He had 111 catches and I just kept thinking, damn, this guy, just, he never stops, keeps coming back. Now he's one of those, he's good, but not that famous kind of guy. And you know, look, the league is littered with that. But when I watch the Cardinals play, I can't help but take, I can't take my eyes off Trey McBride just because he's involved constantly. But he got locked up by the Cardinals, so great. Good for him. I'd love to be talking about John Moran hitting a game winner, but I can't because it's John Morant. And he did it again, hit the game winner against the Heat. And look, you're in a playoff push jockeying for position. Here both teams are and John Morant had the game winner. Now this is the next game after he did the gun gesture to Buddy Heald. He got a talking to by the commissioner and then he goes out. And then last night does another gun gesture as well. This is similar. I Think to, hey, you got pulled over by the police and they give you a warning, hey, you're speeding. Don't speed. All right, officer. And then what do you do? You peel out and then you get pulled over again. Like, what are you doing? I just told you, I'm going to give you a warning. Yeah, I know. John Moran is forcing the NBA. He's forcing Adam Silver and he's really, he's embarrassing the NBA now in a vacuum. Okay, is this a big deal? Oh, you know, this. We have gestures. We have, you know, unfortunately, we have too much of that and this. But you were warned. You've already been suspended a couple of times with a real gun. So when you have priors and you have a history, I just don't want this to be a ten years from now. You go, remember that guy with Memphis John? Yeah. Golly. What could have been. I've seen phenomenal talents in all sports. And then you just can't. They can't help themselves. And I don't know, if a teammate says, come on, do they have the guy who says, come on, Your coach just got fired. I don't know what role he played in that. But you're in a playoff push, you've been suspended, and you point the imaginary gun again. Like, what are you doing? You came in as a feel good story. This guy, out of nowhere. How did people miss on this guy at Murray State? Well, maybe we're starting to realize maybe why they missed out. Maybe there was stuff that was leading up to this. Off the court, he gives you highlights every single night. He's fascinating, phenomenal. But he's flawed. Because I don't know if anybody is really taking ownership of him, because he's not. Is his dad or his dad just a cheerleader here? I mean, these are serious things. Because now you're affecting a career now. Are you going to get suspended the rest of the regular season? Now you affect other people. If he wants to do something on Instagram, live with a gun, okay, you can be stupid. But this is where you're affecting an entire city, a coaching staff and your teammates. Just play great basketball. You don't have to be a gangster. Just play. Be great. But you get to a certain point where he's over 25, it's like, man, when he was 22, he was Anthony Edwards. Well, now we're 25, and you wonder, where are we going with this? He's. I don't know. Are you all in? Do you want to be a basketball player? Do you want to Be a star. Do you want to be a leader? Do you want to be the poster child? Do you want to be first or second team? All envy. And maybe you don't. I can only approach this. It's almost parental that I look at this like somebody. You got to grab somebody and say, and if this, you know, the suspension didn't work, where it cost you millions of dollars because you had a gun and then you had a gun again, and now you're doing the fake gun, and then you do the fake gun again, at some point, somebody's got to help him because he's not going to help himself. And maybe he doesn't know. Got a big contract here, but, yeah, saw it again last night. And we should be talking about what a clutch play. Got the ball, you went on the road, and then he does that. All right, we'll come up with a poll question here. It's one of those where now the commissioner is going to have to act, and I don't know what he'll do. I mean, I think what he should do is say, I can't put up with this. Given. Given how polarizing this issue is in America with guns. Everything that's happened, we can't be cavalier about this. It can't be all fun and games and it's goofy and, hey, you know, bang, bang. No, no, no, no, no. I would suspend him and then see how the team does the rest of the regular season. But that would be, you know, I go to the old school, I go to the David Stern school, you know, and then John Moran says that he doesn't care what people say anymore. Negative comments. Yeah, he says, I'm used to it. Pretty much a villain for two years now. Who. Who made you a villain? You made you a villain. You were a feelgood story. People loved watching you play. You made you. Nobody else did. And as I said when I came on, I'd love to be talking about, man, I love it. Somebody wants the ball in a clutch situation and they hit a big shot, and you're navigating your playoff seating here, but instead, we're not. That's unfortunate. And I know you have NBA players say, oh, you guys just focus on the negative stuff. Help me not focus on the negative stuff. Okay? I'd be more than happy to talk about how great Joker was the other night and Steph Curry was the other night, which I did. But then you get these resets where you're like, come on. And especially a repeat offender. That's the disappointing part of all of this. Did you learn anything? Apparently you didn't see what's poll question today.

[Jim Nantz]

This is a fun one.

[Dan Patrick]

It's not really a poll question, but.

[Sarah Spain]

It'S a very fun.

[Dan Patrick]

Fill in the blank, if you will, from Paul here.

[Sarah Spain]

Which fan base has no sense of.

[Dan Patrick]

Humor about itself or their team? We can populate that. Okay, Is that. I start with the Cowboys. We might call this the Dallas Cowboys poll question.

[Sarah Spain]

But teams that have no sense of humor about themselves. Yes, Paul, we're trying to fill out a poll question about teams and fan bases that have no sense of humor about themselves. So when we put forth that name of that fan base, they're not going to have a sense of humor by being on the poll question. It's like a. A cycle inspired by the Buffalo Bills, obviously.

[Dan Patrick]

Of obviously. Yankee. Yankee fans. Yankees. Sure. We could do that. Who else doesn't have a. I mean, I guess the Lakers, too. Really? Okay, who else?

[Sarah Spain]

Fan bases that are defensive fan bases. When you call them out, like, oh, I don't want to say their names, but there's some SEC schools that, if you critique them.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, wait, wait. You can't come up with a poll question.

[Sarah Spain]

I don't want to say it. Okay. Schools like Alabama and Ohio State, if you jab them lightly, they go scorched earth back on you. And other schools as well. But those are like peak.

[Dan Patrick]

Yeah, but what's going to happen? You mentioned Ohio State. Yeah. Are they sensitive? Yes.

[John Shire]

Yes.

[Dan Patrick]

Alabama. Yes, they are, actually. Yeah.

[Sarah Spain]

You know, now that I think about it, Michigan fans take themselves very serious.

[Dan Patrick]

Well. About the national championship and the cheating scandal. Well, sorry. Michigan men take themselves very seriously.

[Sarah Spain]

A Michigan man, Rich Eisen, line four.

[Dan Patrick]

Okay. Yeah, we can do that. Yes, Todd.

[Sarah Spain]

Patriots fans over the years with the Deflategate and the stealing signs and manipulative things, Patriots were targeted with two of the most ridiculous.

[Dan Patrick]

Wait, now you're. You're being a Patriot fan? Being defensive.

[Sarah Spain]

I mean, they're obviously Roger Goodell. Both of those have been already debunked. The ideal gas law. And everybody knows Deflate. Everybody knows Spike.

[Dan Patrick]

There we go. Here's the stupid. Anyway, so I wouldn't put the. Playing the victims. Yep. Okay. I'd put the Patriots on there. Okay.

[John Shire]

All right.

[Dan Patrick]

Do you want to have that as the poll question? I thought we were gonna maybe, you know, kind of go positive today. It's a Friday. You thought that? I did. I did. That quickly changed here.

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