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Jessica Walter
Hello and welcome back to the Date My podcast. This is season one, episode ten, the Finale and I'm your host Jessica Walter and we are here with our dater of season one, Kyle Christian Lampe. Kyle, how are you?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
I gave him the full name.
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Jessica Walter
I know. It's the. It's the finale, which is kind of sad.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
It is sad. I don't want it to end. I know, but how are you I'm doing good. Yeah. Yeah. Life is. Life is life in a good way. I'm doing a lot of fun stuff with myself.
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Jessica Walter
Well, we're gonna. Oh, you start crying. So everyone knows we haven't been back in the studio to record a podcast episode since the last one you saw which audience listeners are friends. To you, it has only been a week, but to us, woo. It has been three months.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Three months.
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Jessica Walter
Isn't that wild?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
And it's wild. How much can change in three months?
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Jessica Walter
I know. So it's been a week since last episode and a lot has changed.
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Tara
Changed.
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Jessica Walter
There are a ton of updates which I kind of want to get right into.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
So where we left off, Kyle, you were. You were talking to. You weren't officially dating, but you were talking to this. This girl who you, outside of the show, you had met outside of the show. You were potentially. This was a potential match that you found on your own. And she was, it seemed, the direction you were going. You were like, I really want to explain this, see how it is, and that you guys might be dating. Do we have a girlfriend? Do you have a girlfriend? Do we have someone we're about to bring into the studio to introduce?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
No.
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Jessica Walter
Tell us about that. Give us the update.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
The update is. Although I. Yeah, I wanted to see where that went, where it was going to go. And it was awesome. And I was like, oh, this is. This feels good. Let's take our time and get into this. And you know what's interesting? Through this process and then seeing this. This girl at the same time and kind of getting deeper and deeper, I. I had some realizations because I've been spending. I've been spending a lot of time alone, you know, like, since, like, I live alone now. And, you know, I was seeing this girl and I wasn't seeing anyone else. And we would pretty much really only see each other on the weekends because she worked a lot and I. And I did too. So I spent a lot of time alone. And I was starting to realize in my alone moments, I would have these thoughts that would pop up that I've never really noticed or thought before. Things about myself, like, interesting, weird, uncomfortable feelings. I was like, what is that? Why do I feel this way? Why do I, for instance, like, why. Why is it weird for me to, like, be in silence when I love silence so much all of a sudden? Like, I'd always have to have a podcast on, or I'd be like, I'm gonna go for a walk. And then I started to realize, like, huh, what is this? And then it kind of dawned on me that I've never. I've never been alone in my entire life.
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Jessica Walter
Like, what. What do you mean?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
I lived with my parents, then I was in a band, and the whole band moved to Nashville together. We lived together in a house. And then we. Then from there, I like, what's. A couple of the band members, and I got an apartment and I live with them. And then I bought a house and had roommates, and then I had another roommate. And then I met you, and you moved into that house. Like, I've. And then we moved to. To la. And, like, this is the first time I've. I've actually come home to, like, nothing or someone there. And on top of that, not to toot my own horn, but there's always been, like, a girl in my life. Like, I always have had a girlfriend. Like, a relationship would end, and it would be, like, I would turn and there would be someone else in the atmosphere or in my orbit that. That wanted. That we started something. And it's kind of been, like, from the next thing to the next thing. And it was interesting. Like, this is the first. I'm like, whoa. I'm actually, like, kind of alone. And I think I kind of need to explore this before I decide to kind of maybe go back into something serious just as a. Not. Not as. Like, maybe I feel like something's missing. I just think maybe I kind of owe it to myself to, like, take a second to breathe and kind of just do you for a second. Like, go do stuff that you want to do. You know, like, go take a pottery class. Go, like, do jujitsu. Go. Go on a vacation. Go on a road trip by yourself. Like, go kind of spend some time alone and just, like, really enjoy you for a minute, and then go back into the. The dating world and kind of settling down with someone. Because I. I wonder how many people do that in their lives where, like, maybe they kind of wake up one day with kids and a wife and everything's fine. They love their life, everything's good. But maybe they're like, huh? I didn't. Who am I? Like, did I get to spend enough time with me?
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Jessica Walter
Yeah. And that's interesting because we touched on it with Sarah, the dating expert. She said, are you ready? And granted, you guys, I moved out of the house. Like, yeah. When we decided to separate and we'd gone through couples therapy, I moved out, like, a couple weeks after that. We broke up. So, I mean, I get what you're saying. Though. So you've been alone, but I get it. You kind of like you had that alone time, but it was filled with sort of reflection and sort of dealing with everything and me and you. Yeah.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
And that's not to say that I'm still ready. Like, I still want the things I want. But I guess what I'm saying is instead of, I'm kind of stepping back from like putting an active role in going out and finding that person. I'm kind of just like, let's just do me and really just enjoy the small things that, that really excite me and light me up and bring me joy and, but still go out and talk to people. Like interface with people in the real world. And if someone comes across your path that seems like they're interesting or that you're attracted to or maybe there's a vibe there, go with it so you're.
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Jessica Walter
Not putting as much stress on it anymore. Like you were treating it like a job.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
And did you break up with her, just so that's clear?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
Oh.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Oh, yeah.
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Jessica Walter
So did you guys become official?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
No, no. I, I, I could see that that's where it was going. And there were some, some conversations and some hints being dropped and, and she Unbelievable, wonderful, like salt of the earth, kind awesome person, someone that you would be happy to be with, like lucky to be with. But I just felt like if I were to say, because we, I was, it was kind of like a fork in the road. I knew that if I was like, yeah, let's make this official. I knew that I wasn't in a place. I knew that if I was thinking about like, huh, maybe I should spend some time myself, though I didn't. I felt like I'd be doing her a disservice if I, I feel like I wouldn't be like going all in and it wouldn't be fair to her because she would deserve someone who could show up 100. And I felt like I, I just, I don't know if I can show up 100% right now and that, I, that doesn't sit well with me and that's not fair to her. And she deserves someone that can show up 100%. So.
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Jessica Walter
Okay, so you have some self exploration to do.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah, maybe. Yeah, for, I would say for sure. I think, I think maybe you kind of do that the rest of your life really. But it was very amicable and she totally understood and she actually encouraged it. She's like, I think that's, that's like a really good thing for you. To do, as sad as it was.
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Jessica Walter
Yeah. And are you still friends? Do you still talk or.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
No, we talked about that. I was like, so, you know, I could still have you as a friend in my life, but I feel like that's kind of like, that's the kind of the same thing. Now I have someone that I can talk to and lean on. And we kind of both agreed. She was like, yeah, just let's not text or talk. She said, but if you want to ask me out on a date again, then you can text me.
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Jessica Walter
That's really sweet.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
And I was like, yeah. Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
I'd never met her, but I heard a lot of great things. And I remember, you know, obviously telling Kyle, like, of course I'd love to meet her, but, you know, I think. I know that's weird for a lot of people. So whenever you're ready. And then they broke up before I could meet her, but she seemed like an angel. I really wanted to just jump right into relationship stuff. Today it is the dating podcast, the Date My podcast. I didn't want to get too much into, like, our updates and our personal lives, so we did a bonus episode, hopefully that comes out before this. If not, you'll get it soon, with updates on our lives and whatnot. And I moved since the last time we were here and. But really quick, before we have our girl come in, a absolute listener favorite angel, Tara, who, by the way, they haven't seen each other since. Since that. Since the date.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Since the day.
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Jessica Walter
So before, I really quickly want to touch on because you really mentioned something a couple minutes ago so powerful and meaningful when you, like, I'm about to get. Said something like.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
I can see it in your face. I can see it in your face.
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Jessica Walter
It. No, hold on. It was so deep. It made me like. And you said. You said a word or I said a word.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah. Let me guess. I heard starts with a J. Ends. Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
What do you mean? Jiu Jitsu, Kyle. Yeah.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
Why don't you tell us why? What has happened? Oh, well, Mr. I'll never do Jiu Jitsu.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Well, let me say that. Let me. Let me. That was. That was shrouded in a lot of, like, hurt and misunderstanding. I said I would never do it because in my mind, the way you left, I didn't have a scapegoat. And to me, the scapegoat was that because you started doing that exclusively, and I never saw you because you're always there. So I was like, oh, that. Like that.
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Jessica Walter
Yeah.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
That was, like, the thing that Kind of took her away from this thing. Which it wasn't.
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Jessica Walter
But it wasn't.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah, but, like, I've known about Jiu jitsu before. You have.
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Jessica Walter
I know your dad does it.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah, my dad.
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Jessica Walter
Which. This is a great time to tell you guys. We have the whole Kyle's whole first Jiu Jitsu experience that we are dropping on YouTube as an exclusive video episode with another special guest that you.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah, well, that's what I'm saying.
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Jessica Walter
Like, I did next week or something.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
I did martial arts, like, Like, a huge chunk of my life from, like, the age of 5 to 18. And it was a. It was a very transformative thing for me. And I haven't had something like that in my life. And the way my life is now, I kind of do something every single day that I'm very comfortable with and that I'm very good at in the world, like, in fitness and coaching and working out. Like, I'm used to doing things that I'm good at, and it feels good to suck at something. It feels nice to, like, be a beginner and not know anything. It feels nice to learn and use my body physically and have kind of like a. And it's just. It's the whole thing of, like, hey, spend some time with yourself. Let's try this out. Maybe you might hate it.
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Jessica Walter
Yeah. So all of this is a. Kyle did one private jiu Jitsu class with me and one of my favorite coaches of all time, Coach Manny, over at 10th Planet Burbank. So that'll air just like, it was funny and fun and good.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
I want to say about Manny from, like, coaching is a skill, and from one coach to another, he's a fantastic coach, isn't he? This. That's such a highly skilled thing. And the way he broke it down for me in such, like, a way that I could grasp is, like. That's, like, such a. Such an amazing skill to have.
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Jessica Walter
So if he's listening to this, he's awesome. No, he's the greatest. So congratulations. Hopefully, your jiu jitsu journey continues now.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
On second thought, the fact that you made this a big deal just out of spite.
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Jessica Walter
You're so annoying. I don't even want to shit you do it anymore. That's a shit you do. Okay. Anyway, so we're going to get to the most important part of this entire episode, the absolute fan favorite, my heart and soul. Miss, we're going to call in Kyle's final date, which ended up being the date, the diner date. He went on to swingers and they haven't seen each other since. And we're just going to get into, like, you know, we know on last episode, Kyle talked about how, like, you know, they texted a little, and then basically he was honest and upfront with Tara, and he had said, you know, I don't. I'm not the kind of person to date multiple people at once. I want to explore this, see how it goes. And they haven't talked since. And I just. We're going to see what she's been up to the past three months. If she's dating anyone. If she absolutely hates Kyle, she might come in swinging. We can only deserve it. We can only hope so. Without further ado, our angel, Tara. Where she left.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Hi.
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Tara
Hello, my love.
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Jessica Walter
You are an absolute. You're the star. You are the season.
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Tara
Allegedly.
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Jessica Walter
Do you know she says allegedly? Because I texted Tara when all of you were commenting and being like, she's the greatest. She's so funny. They should have a reality show is what you guys were saying. And Tara was like, yeah, I don't look at the comments, but, yeah, you could.
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Tara
I didn't go down that rabbit hole, but my friends did.
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Jessica Walter
Okay, good.
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Tara
And they sent me some screenshots. And I really appreciate everyone who's been, like, so sweet and so nice, like, I hope you get rich and your ass gets, like, really thick and juicy. Hell, yeah.
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Jessica Walter
Has any men? So so far, we have such a fun community that's growing. Have any men slid into your DMs?
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Tara
No.
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Jessica Walter
Okay.
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Tara
Women. Yes. Like, honestly, I appreciate that more.
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Jessica Walter
It's so much more.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Wait, like, in a friendly way or.
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Tara
Like, in a friendly way? Yeah, they've all been, like, very sweet.
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Jessica Walter
It has been three months since you guys have seen each other, since you guys have gone on the date. I just want to know what you've been up to, Tara, and how you feel about Kyle, because I would feel a certain type of way, but I want to know kind of from your perspective.
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Tara
Yeah.
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Jessica Walter
How it went down, what happened, and just. Yeah.
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Tara
So.
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Jessica Walter
Okay.
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Tara
I feel like what happened is, like, that's dating in real life, but, like, this is not real life.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
No.
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Jessica Walter
Right.
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Tara
This is studio. We didn't talk in between episodes, so I knew I had to make, like, every interaction count. And so normally I would not have been so, like, open about insecurities regarding, like, potential infertility and, like, a rough childhood, but I really just gave myself over to this experience fully. And I'm really proud of that.
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Jessica Walter
Me, too.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
That's awesome.
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Tara
Yeah. Kyle, with love and light to Come into this so invested in another person that you're not really open to entertaining other connections. Colossal waste of time. My time, the time of everyone who came into the studio. Jess's time, if she didn't know, and unfortunately, like, the audience's time as well. And I think I just, like, didn't understand because you guys have such a fun dynamic. Imagine just, like, injecting that with a sense of competition. Does your ex fiance know you better than you know yourself? Can Jess find you a better match than you can find yourself? I think that would have been electric. And I'm, like, sad that for entertainment purposes, we were, like, deprived of it just because there was a lack of transparency about it.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah, I. I can totally see how that came across that way. Hopefully if I give you some backstory, it would help kind of clear that up. So, like you said, this is like real life dating. And when you. When you meet. When you are dating, sometimes you meet multiple people, and you kind of like, I like this person, but I'm gonna go on a date with this person. I'm gonna go date with this person. That's essentially what happened. We're just doing it, like you said, in front of a camera. The girl that I met right before I was asked to do this, there was like, no, there hadn't been a connection built there yet. So I was like, yeah, I'm gonna go into this fully open. Just to let you know, Jessica, I had. I went on a date that went really well, and I don't necessarily want to, like, cut that off either. She's like, yeah, okay, that's fine. So this whole process took, you know, three, four weeks to film. So as we're filming this and I'm meeting people, I'm also still like, like, you would dating someone else, kind of going and exploring that. And that kind of grew. But even though I would show up here, I was like, yes, this isn't my wife. This isn't my girlfriend, and I am wanting to meet someone special.
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Tara
Did she know you were doing this?
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah. So I told her immediately.
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Jessica Walter
Oh, I have to make clear. I'm so sorry, because this is gonna be important when this comes out. The episode listeners and audience will have seen. The week before this airs, Tara has not seen yet. And basically we talk about it. Of course, that was unexpected. That being said, when Kyle did come to me and tell me, like, you know, I have been. He basically was like, I'm gonna be open to this because. And he says on the show, my wife might walk through that Door. So I'm open to that possibility, but I don't necessarily also want to stop talking to this girl. And I said, even though that would have been something, because he did all the right things as far as got off hinge got off. Like, let me take it over. He did all the right things there. And I say, last episode, even though that would have been nice, I would have been like, stop talking to her. As we know, he would have had to stop for three months. And for me, what I basically said was, look, we started this show because I really do want to find you a perfect match. I want to find you the love of your life. And if I put that in jeopardy by saying, granted, it wasn't his girlfriend. They weren't dating, but if I put that in jeopardy by saying, no, don't talk to her for entertainment sake, as your friend and someone who does care about. If he finds a match is like, no, I wouldn't want to jeopardize that. That being said, my, like, ugh. Was with you because I was like, tara, to be honest, I was like, oh, Tara's gonna come on the show, and maybe they won't click, but if they do, that'd be, like, so incredible. And you did. Even our friend Michelle was like, she's fun. This is light. And I was, like, stressing to Michelle. I'm like, please, like, tell her it's casual. This isn't, like, I'm not gonna. You know. And she was like, okay, no, Tara, it's fun. It's light. So I was, like, super casual. And I kept saying that to Kyle, too. I'm like, it's casual. Don't be. It doesn't have to be anything crazy I'm blabbering on. I want you to keep going. But I should have. I should have sent you the episode, and I should have said that he was open, and he said to me, like, I'm. I am here to find the love of my life, and I'm open to it. But I also think if I stop. If I had stopped or did stop texting this girl, that it could have jeopardized maybe a future partnership. And I ended up being like, Then I'm. I was in support of it.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah. So. So, like I said, the. The show started. Took a long time to film, so I started to develop a thing with her. But like I said, I wanted to. I wanted to show up here completely open. And to answer your question, before you came in was after. On our second date, I was like, hey, the first Day went really well. I need to let you know that I just agreed to do this show. How do you feel about that? And she's like, I think that's great. That's really funny. I can't wait to see how, like, this. This pans out. So I. I think that I was as transparent with, like, everyone that I could possibly be.
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Jessica Walter
I have to interject really quick, though, because when you told me that, I said, well, this isn't just, like. The way you just made it sound is that she thought you were going on this show. Like, you. I remember you saying to me she was nervous because, oh, you might find the one.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah. And she was like. She was like, I get it. She's like, we're dating. We're not. We're not together. We're not like. And I'm like, yeah, that's. I appreciate that. And I came in here, and every time I met a person, whether it was you or Ashton or Melanie or. Or Maya, I was like, all right, let's really see what they have to say, because there's something that they could possibly say that could. That could change my perspective. And I gotta be honest with you. Our date, out of all the dates I've been on in my dating process since we. We ended our relationship, was the most fluid. Like, immediately, like, oh, this is like a. This is like a real serious vibe. And when I got in the car, when we left Swingers and I got in the car, I had a moment where I was like, oh, shit. That was like. I did not expect that. I was like, oh, I'm fucked. Because, like, you're the last date. I was like, all right. The first three were like, fine, that's cool. I chose you. And I was like, all right, this is gonna be fun. But, like, when I got in the car, I was like, oh, I have to, like, really make a decision, because I thought it was gonna be like, oh, it's cool. Anyways, I'll just go continue dating this girl, you know, after this date. So it was like. That was like a real connection that I had with you on that day. That wasn't like a. That wasn't like, for cameras. That wasn't like, for. For this. This. This experience that was, like, real. Those conversations we had and the. The joking and the banter, that was not. That was me being completely open.
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Jessica Walter
I want to ask Tara a question, and I'm going to tell her this, because. So after. Right after Swingers, he called me and he was like, so she. Okay, so she's not like, taking this seriously. And I was like, what are you talking. No, it's. I'm like, it's casual and fun. She's open to the experience. She's. And he was like, well, I. I'm just confused because she said, are you taking this serious? Yeah.
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Tara
I asked you, like, multiple times, are you being for real about this?
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Jessica Walter
So he didn't think you were. And I was like, no, she is.
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Tara
Asking and you told me.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
It was like. She was like, kyle, it's. I told her it's not a big deal. So I was going into being like, oh, she doesn't think this is a big deal, but I'm gonna.
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Jessica Walter
Well, that's why I thought you were.
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Tara
On some real fuck ass shit after that date. Because when you texted me, you're like, well, I was under the impression you weren't looking for anything serious anyways. And I was like, yeah. One, I never said that. Two, even if I wasn't, am I not worthy of, like, open communication and honesty and like decency?
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Jessica Walter
Right.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
No. 100%. So it sounds like there is a miscommunication.
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Jessica Walter
It sounds like it's the host. False. Yeah, I was going to thinking, like.
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Tara
This came from inside the house all along.
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Jessica Walter
Okay. I have a question, if you could redo it. Yes.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Which what you said at the beginning of this conversation was complete, is completely warranted and still stands. And, like, I totally understand.
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Tara
Remember what I said at the beginning.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
Of this conversation without you knowing? I guess kind of what I said, I. I still think, like, that completely stands. Like, if. If I hadn't talked about the other girl that I was seeing, that this would be a colossal waste of time. But I guess I don't know how else to convey the truth that I was seeing her, but I also was completely open to our experience.
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Jessica Walter
You were dating. I think what I want to say is, like, I wasn't in a relationship to make it clear that you were not. You had not made up your mind.
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Kyle Christian Lampe
No.
- [25:34]
Jessica Walter
You were dating someone as. Like you said, Tara, as people, as people do, they date multiple people. But you were like, if. If you had come to me and you were like, this is the one, which I would be able to know. I even said to you after you went on one date with this other girl and we talked and I was like, I don't think it's the one that you're talking. If this were the one and you would have come to me because I know we have an honest relationship, he would have said, like, look, I think this is the one, like, I can't do this show. I could either not do the show and you can, like, pick someone else because we had a couple good people to pick, or I could do the show and just, like, be honest with. I would have been honest with you. I would have been honest with the girls and been like, this is more of, like, entertainment.
- [26:14]
Tara
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [26:16]
Jessica Walter
So that did make me feel better. And I think. Let me ask if you could do it again if the show or me, like, you know, just making sure you were following the rules. But there was no rules. You know what I mean? At. At Swingers Diner, would you have said, hey, I want to let you know this has been amazing, but I'm also talking to another girl. Or did you in that moment not know? Like, I know you said you got in your car and you were like, I have to decide.
- [26:43]
Kyle Christian Lampe
No, I. I wouldn't have done it different because at the same time, too, I didn't know the rules of engagement. I was like, well, so do we talk after the day?
- [26:50]
Tara
Yeah, I don't.
- [26:50]
Jessica Walter
Which I did not make clear. Yeah, you guys, this is my first podcast. And I was just like, just, you know, I won't tell them anything. They can do whatever. That was not the vibe. And we know going into season two.
- [27:02]
Kyle Christian Lampe
So anyway, no, but. But also there was that, like, the drive home of being like, oh, wow, that was like. That was the best date I've been on.
- [27:12]
Jessica Walter
You know, and you guys were so cute. And like I said, I don't know if you watched the diner episode or your friends didn't report it back, but it was one of the things that wasn't the plan to air it. I was. Hence why we filmed it with a cell phone. And Mike, you guys, with like. I was like, oh, we'll play clip. And then I was watching it and I'm like, and I know you. And I'm like, oh, this is a vibe.
- [27:32]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Put it this way. I walk my dog every morning, like early in the morning when no one's out, and I listen to whatever music, but every time the podcast airs, I listen to it just to, like, check if there's like, audio issues or like, hey, Jess, this is like, cut out or whatever. And I listen to our diner episode, which is, you know, I'm just walking. And I had a smile on my face the whole time. I did. I was like. I was like, I could viscerally feel the vibe through my AirPods. I was like, this is like, wow. Because it had been so long since We, Yeah, months, like so I forgot what we even talked about.
- [28:06]
Tara
Same. That's why I had to rewatch it too. But it was really nice. When you're working out, when you're playing sports, you can check video, check your form. You can't do that with dating. So that was so nice to be able to do.
- [28:17]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah. So any like hurtful feelings that you may have gotten for me or if you felt like I tricked you or I slighted you in any way, like, that was not my intention. All like, I'm sorry if, if you got like, and that sucks. Like if you still.
- [28:30]
Tara
You were nervous when you texted me.
- [28:33]
Kyle Christian Lampe
I was so nervous.
- [28:34]
Tara
Your texts were like this long and there were multiple.
- [28:37]
Kyle Christian Lampe
And I was like, I. Cuz I didn't. I like, I hate first off, I hate it when pe. When I, when I'm, when I'm misunderstood and I, I, I want to, I want to. If I had my way instead of texting you, I would have like driven to where you were and been like.
- [28:52]
Tara
Yo, no, let's, let's. That's too much.
- [28:56]
Kyle Christian Lampe
But, but it's, but, but, but in person, communication is so much better. Like this.
- [29:00]
Tara
Did he tell you he opened with a Taco Bell joke?
- [29:03]
Jessica Walter
Stop. Did you say, did we say that? By the way, I'm still editing the episode that's coming out in a few days, so I have no idea. Like, I was like, can you just.
- [29:11]
Tara
Go through Jess for communication from now on?
- [29:14]
Jessica Walter
This is, Was it like one that hit or one that you were like, what is he talking about?
- [29:18]
Tara
He took a good 12 plus hours to respond. It was early to respond.
- [29:23]
Kyle Christian Lampe
You texted, you texted me the day, either the day before Thanksgiving or the day of Thanksgiving.
- [29:29]
Jessica Walter
I think we do talk about this in last week's episode.
- [29:31]
Tara
Okay.
- [29:32]
Jessica Walter
And you say not to retread natural, but I'm remembering you say. And I didn't respond immediately because I didn't know the rules in engagement and.
- [29:40]
Kyle Christian Lampe
I wanted to like, did really think about like, how am I going to respond to this so she understands what the situation is. Because I knew immediately how this was going to look or feel to you. And I was like, oh, this isn't like what I wanted or intended at all.
- [29:55]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [29:56]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
- [29:56]
Jessica Walter
So how, what are your thoughts now that you heard that? Do you still have the same fuck ass energy? Because I get it.
- [30:02]
Tara
I mean like just like a little bit. But like I always have a little bit of fuck ass energy which I.
- [30:05]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Which I like about you.
- [30:08]
Tara
At the end of the day though, I will say like hearing what you said at the top of this episode of like this is my first time being alone. I going into this was concerned that like you had not had enough time by yourself. I think for me it was just like my time is the most valuable thing I have. I had to worry if I looked good in this outfit sitting down versus standing which you hit.
- [30:33]
Jessica Walter
We know it now.
- [30:36]
Tara
But yeah, I feel for you. I'm glad you're getting your Kyle time because someday you're gonna have some bitch ass kids running around the house and you will never be on the bed.
- [30:44]
Kyle Christian Lampe
I'll never have a Kyle time again.
- [30:45]
Tara
And how many ass compound words can I use? I love it. Fuck ass. We got bitch ass.
- [30:50]
Jessica Walter
We love this. Fuck ass is word of the day.
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- [32:50]
Jessica Walter
Okay, so now I want to get into your life. Tara, what have you been up to? Are you dating? This is a dating and relationship.
- [32:59]
Tara
Yeah, I will say, like, this whole debacle made an easy choice even easier for me.
- [33:05]
Jessica Walter
Were you dating multiple people?
- [33:06]
Tara
I was, and I am currently dating the man I was seeing the same time that this was going down.
- [33:13]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Love that.
- [33:13]
Tara
I'm in love.
- [33:15]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Hell, yeah.
- [33:16]
Tara
Whatever.
- [33:17]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Can you talk about him? Like, is he comfortable with you talking about it?
- [33:20]
Tara
I think so.
- [33:20]
Jessica Walter
Are you official? Like.
- [33:21]
Tara
Yeah, we're official boyfriend, girl. He met my mom, like, a month after us getting together.
- [33:28]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah, I love that.
- [33:29]
Tara
Like, he's also a TV writer, so he understands my, like, anxiety spiral when it comes to the industry these days. And, like, he's so supportive. He still lets me do my hot girl shit on Instagram, which I really do anymore. But there's just so much love and care, and I feel so empowered in this relationship, and I've never felt that way before. And it's truly, like, a type of love that I hope everyone gets to experience in their lives.
- [34:00]
Jessica Walter
My heart is exploding. Do you guys work in the same.
- [34:03]
Tara
Oh, sorry. I just want to say, that being said, if he's cheating on me and you're the other girl, my DMs are open.
- [34:09]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Just let me know.
- [34:10]
Jessica Walter
I've never ridden this hard for a man publicly before. She's like. That being said, I better have watchers out there.
- [34:16]
Kyle Christian Lampe
How did you guys meet? Like, what was the.
- [34:18]
Tara
We were met on a dating app. We met on Hinge.
- [34:20]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That's awesome.
- [34:20]
Jessica Walter
Stop.
- [34:21]
Tara
Yeah.
- [34:21]
Jessica Walter
Hinge. If you do not sponsor this podcast after this season. Okay. You met on Hinge, even though you're both TV writers, I figured you met at work.
- [34:31]
Tara
I know, it's crazy.
- [34:32]
Jessica Walter
Do you work in the same?
- [34:33]
Tara
No. So I am still, like, riding the waves of, like, free development and stuff. He is staffed. He's on a big boy show. He's doing his thing.
- [34:42]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That's amazing.
- [34:43]
Jessica Walter
A staffed writer.
- [34:44]
Tara
I'm so proud of him.
- [34:46]
Jessica Walter
I'm okay. Can we talk? Is he younger, older?
- [34:48]
Tara
He's, like, two years older than me, but he's got some really cute salt and pepper in his beard?
- [34:55]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [34:56]
Tara
Let's see. Questions that matter. Oh, he's a Pisces.
- [34:59]
Jessica Walter
Okay. That matter. Okay, so Pisces, is that usually a match for you or not?
- [35:05]
Tara
Yeah, we're both like little emotional weirdos, so.
- [35:08]
Kyle Christian Lampe
It's good.
- [35:08]
Tara
It's good.
- [35:09]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Well, and I think it's awesome that you guys are in this because we talked about on our date like, like where you wanted to go with your life and like the industry and how it's going. It's nice that you have someone that, like you just said, can really dig into that with you and understand.
- [35:22]
Tara
I thought I would hate it, but it's great.
- [35:23]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah. That's really cool.
- [35:25]
Jessica Walter
Okay. How would your mom think of him? I need to know.
- [35:29]
Tara
Oh, my God, my mom. I shit you not. Five minutes after meeting him was like, you can call me mom.
- [35:35]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That's cute, girl.
- [35:37]
Tara
Chill.
- [35:38]
Jessica Walter
The most important, equally as important as your mom. What did Kevin, your three legged dog, think of him?
- [35:45]
Tara
He has not bitten Alan's dick. He has not bitten Alan's dick.
- [35:49]
Jessica Walter
Which, by the way, I cut that out because I. For Kevin's privacy.
- [35:53]
Tara
That's. You know what? Yeah. We don't need to advertise how many dicks have been in that boy's mouth. So he's a dog. Not a boy.
- [35:59]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Sorry, boy. He's a boy dog.
- [36:01]
Tara
Yeah.
- [36:01]
Jessica Walter
Let's clarify. Kevin is her three legged dog. Do you think, and this is such a loaded question and so weird because if anyone asked me this, I'd be like, what are you talking about at this point? Do you think he's the one?
- [36:11]
Tara
I mean, if he's not, I am ruined. I am getting like this princess treatment I've never received before. Being a provider is really important to him.
- [36:22]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That's good.
- [36:22]
Tara
I, like, if he's not the one, like, who is? Who's gonna fill that spot now? There will be a void if we part ways.
- [36:31]
Jessica Walter
So it's been three months that you've been official. How quick did you become official after.
- [36:36]
Tara
After this? Yeah, I think we became official right before the holidays.
- [36:42]
Jessica Walter
Okay. Cuffing season, baby.
- [36:45]
Tara
Yeah. We had already made plans for him to visit me and my mom in Vegas.
- [36:48]
Jessica Walter
Okay.
- [36:49]
Tara
But we still hadn't had the. What are we talk.
- [36:51]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
- [36:51]
Tara
And I was just like, well, if he's meeting my mom, like, he knows he's my boyfriend, right?
- [36:55]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [36:56]
Tara
He didn't know that.
- [36:58]
Jessica Walter
Wait, what? Why? Was he dating other girls?
- [37:00]
Tara
No, he wasn't. Okay. Another thing is like, like early December, I think it was like, I was really busy. I Wanted to see him. The only time I had was like, do you want to spend the night?
- [37:11]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [37:11]
Tara
He was like, yes. And then he, like, never left. We, like, live together.
- [37:16]
Jessica Walter
Stop it.
- [37:16]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Just, like, moved in.
- [37:17]
Jessica Walter
Yeah. We have a place of his own in case anything he does.
- [37:21]
Tara
And I think we both feel much more comfortable that way. But, yeah, I come home to this man who cooks and he cleans and.
- [37:29]
Jessica Walter
My dog loves him and, like, right from home.
- [37:33]
Tara
No. But. Oh, I don't know if I can say the lot. He works at a lot. That is no joke. Like, three minutes from my apartment.
- [37:40]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Oh, that's so convenient. That's amazing.
- [37:42]
Tara
So convenient. Oh, my God. So maybe he's just dating me for the commute. Like, I hope not.
- [37:46]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Hey, but it sounds like you're getting something out of it, so let it ride, you know? Let it ride.
- [37:50]
Jessica Walter
This is an exchange of all the best exchanges. This is great. Okay, I'm gonna pivot into something that I have been a huge fan of on your Instagram. It's so interesting to me, and I have hopes and dreams for you, and then I want to hear your hopes and dreams. So when I look at Tara's Instagram now, she's all of a sudden, like, this bagel connoisseur, and it's like she's. It's like chemistry over there, right? If you look at her Instagram and look at her stories, she's like, talking about the yeast and how it's bubbling. And I hope and pray this is going to lead to. Because the bagel she makes, like, phenomenal. And I'm like, I hope and pray it's gonna lead to either a bagel truck, like the yeasty boys shout out, or like, a restaurant or something. What is this journey?
- [38:36]
Tara
Okay. Yeah. So I started doing, like, the sourdough starter thing.
- [38:40]
Jessica Walter
Okay.
- [38:41]
Tara
And I just got really good at making bagels, and I was posting them on Instagram and then people started being like, can I buy bagels from you?
- [38:50]
Jessica Walter
Yes.
- [38:50]
Tara
And I was like, yes.
- [38:53]
Jessica Walter
What flavors do you want?
- [38:54]
Tara
And so then, yeah, I've been, like, churning out bagels like crazy. I don't obviously don't have any health permitting right now, so simply donation based. We did have a bit of tragedy strike when, like, my sourdough starter fell off the counter and the glass broke and everything. But my new starter, his name is Bongo, is ready to go next week. And I'm gonna get back on that bagel shit.
- [39:22]
Jessica Walter
Gonna say, but we have a little glass in the bagels. No, no, no, no, no.
- [39:25]
Tara
I would never. I would never. But no, it's so funny because I'm like, should I just leave the industry and, like, make bagels? Make a New York girl making New York bagels. My boyfriend during the day, he has a job. He's a fully employed man.
- [39:39]
Jessica Walter
Wow.
- [39:40]
Tara
Will, like, text me, like, little logos that he's, like, sketched out for Bongo Bagels.
- [39:44]
Jessica Walter
Bongo bagels is so sick. By the way. They look delicious. If you don't follow Tara. Tara on Instagram. Do you have some. I'm. I'm gonna post a couple photos right here and videos in this video on YouTube of Tara's Bagels, but she has, like, Asiago and different flavors. Are you open for business? Let's just say a listener is listening and they live in or around the LA area. Are you open for business? Oh, yeah. Absolutely.
- [40:10]
Tara
Yeah. 100. Hang on. I need to show off my bag.
- [40:13]
Jessica Walter
Please show Kyle. I can't believe you haven't seen it.
- [40:15]
Tara
This is, like, with, like, the set of your mind lighting, too.
- [40:19]
Jessica Walter
I'm gonna post.
- [40:20]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Oh, there's so much cheese on that bagel. There's so many jalapenos on that bagel.
- [40:23]
Jessica Walter
Wait, I see everything. I see jalapeno cheese, cheddar jalapeno. I see cinnamon crunch.
- [40:29]
Tara
Yeah. I do onion. I do sesame. I do salt bagels.
- [40:33]
Jessica Walter
Oh, no.
- [40:34]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Did you just, like, wake up one.
- [40:35]
Jessica Walter
Day and you're like, give me this, Kyle.
- [40:36]
Kyle Christian Lampe
I'll make some bagels.
- [40:37]
Tara
Pretty much.
- [40:39]
Jessica Walter
Give me this.
- [40:39]
Tara
But what I really want to do is I have a friend who, like, feeds the unhoused community in MacArthur park, and it's my goal to be able to make enough in one day that I can, like, donate a batch to that.
- [40:51]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That'd be sick.
- [40:52]
Jessica Walter
That is incredible.
- [40:53]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Are you gonna have to. Are you making this in your kitchen right now?
- [40:56]
Tara
I am.
- [40:56]
Kyle Christian Lampe
You're gonna have to get, like, a ghost kitchen once you.
- [40:58]
Tara
I would. Okay. This is my fantasy. I moved to Vegas where there is less competition, but my mom is around for support. I open up little bagel shop in, like, Summerlin. We need, like, a rich neighborhood.
- [41:12]
Jessica Walter
That's where Kyle grew up.
- [41:13]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
- [41:13]
Tara
Okay. Hell, yeah. Let's go. Yeah. That's where I want to open my bagel shop.
- [41:18]
Jessica Walter
Okay.
- [41:19]
Tara
So we'll see.
- [41:19]
Kyle Christian Lampe
I. I hope you do that.
- [41:21]
Tara
Thank you.
- [41:22]
Jessica Walter
I do too. And I'm gonna be like, once you have a try. I'm. I didn't know that Tara sold these. So now I'm gonna be hitting you up for a batch. Do you make cream cheese. And is that in the future?
- [41:31]
Tara
That is in the future.
- [41:32]
Jessica Walter
Okay.
- [41:32]
Tara
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [41:33]
Jessica Walter
Okay. Because that's like. That is so.
- [41:36]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Why bongo?
- [41:38]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [41:38]
Tara
Okay. Oh, I don't wanna. My grandpa, he has passed away, but when he moved to America, he obviously put on a lot of weight. Not a lot of weight, but he developed a little pot belly. My grandpa developed a pot belly. And whenever he would eat something really delicious, he would play his belly like a bongo.
- [41:58]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
- [41:59]
Jessica Walter
Do you think he would love these bagels?
- [42:01]
Tara
Oh, he would love anything I do. They could be shit bagels and he would still love them.
- [42:04]
Kyle Christian Lampe
As a grandpa should. That's a grandpa.
- [42:07]
Jessica Walter
I'm sorry for your grandpa. Latte. Grandpas are the best. I lost mine, too. I was so close to him, so. But such a good tribute.
- [42:14]
Tara
Yeah.
- [42:15]
Jessica Walter
That's adorable. Well, I'm so happy for you. This is great. I'm happy for you on your solo journey of exploring Kyle, who you are. Honestly, if Tara weren't in a relationship, I would beg her to be on season two. So sorry, guys, but I hope. I'm very excited for you and your boyfriend and your bagels and honestly, Kevin, thanks to everyone. Yeah, he's just, like, living the life. Before we log off, I want to ask because we kind of went over it, but in a few words, each of you, did you learn anything from this experience about yourselves? And if so, what? And it can be positive or negative, because I've admitted to needing to make some tweaks, obviously, as the host, but.
- [43:08]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Fucking, you know, like, let me just get thrown into the fire with no information. Well, Christ.
- [43:15]
Jessica Walter
Anyway, so did you learn anything about yourselves in this process? About dating, or.
- [43:22]
Tara
Should I never do this again?
- [43:25]
Jessica Walter
No. Just kidding.
- [43:26]
Tara
Okay.
- [43:26]
Jessica Walter
Go ahead, Kyle.
- [43:28]
Kyle Christian Lampe
You want to go first or do you want to go first?
- [43:31]
Tara
I can go first. Okay. It's more poignant if you wrap it out. Okay. See, I just think that, like, there's no such thing as, like, a wrong decision. The whole thing of, like, rejection is redirection. Like, couldn't be truer, even though it's, like, so cliche and. Yeah, just be happy. Do your own shit. Don't. Don't let anybody's fuck ass behavior weigh you down.
- [43:59]
Jessica Walter
I love those wise words, Kyle.
- [44:02]
Kyle Christian Lampe
What did I learn?
- [44:03]
Jessica Walter
Well, let me ask you. You kind of. We talked about this in the beginning, but is it the value of maybe taking time for yourself? I know you're open, but, like, in this time.
- [44:12]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Oh, yeah, I guess. Yeah. Okay. I thought we were talking about stuff that, like, with, like, new stuff. Because I.
- [44:17]
Jessica Walter
No, I just want to know, like. Because, look, you came into the show in the first episode. You were treating dating like a job. You were lining people up. It was like, interviews and all.
- [44:27]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Right, here we go. Here it is. I've learned the value of kind of. I'm, like, letting go. I'm kind of in this phase of my life where I'm just kind of like. I don't know if it's healthy, but I'm kind of just like, what? Like, whatever, you know, like, people invite me to things. My. My go to is usually no, but now I'm just like, yeah, yeah, let's do that.
- [44:48]
Jessica Walter
Oh.
- [44:48]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Or like, hey, you want to do this? You want to. You want to try jiu jitsu class? Yeah, Like, I don't. Yeah, I guess I'm just more open and less rigid. Yeah, that's been nice.
- [45:00]
Tara
To fuck around is human. To find out is your divine purpose now.
- [45:06]
Jessica Walter
That's the quote.
- [45:08]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Yeah.
- [45:09]
Jessica Walter
Okay, cool.
- [45:10]
Kyle Christian Lampe
So. So positive things.
- [45:12]
Jessica Walter
Yeah. What do you guys. What do you hope for yourself within a year? If you could. One year. So that's not a lot. But if you could see your life within a year, Tara, and then Kyle will end on this with you, where would you be? What would you be doing? How would it look? Give us a little, ideally, snapshot.
- [45:29]
Tara
Still with my boo.
- [45:30]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [45:31]
Tara
Fuck. Ton of bagels.
- [45:32]
Jessica Walter
Love the bagels.
- [45:34]
Tara
Would love to see a little bambino, but maybe not, like, within a year.
- [45:37]
Jessica Walter
Okay. Yeah, but, like, we would make, like.
- [45:39]
Tara
Cute babies, so I'm, like, actually quite excited about it.
- [45:41]
Jessica Walter
Okay. Hell, yes, I will babysit.
- [45:44]
Tara
Thank you.
- [45:46]
Jessica Walter
And what is Kevin up to?
- [45:48]
Tara
Oh, my God. He's never gonna get old.
- [45:50]
Jessica Walter
Okay.
- [45:50]
Tara
He's never gonna have a gray snout. He will be young and naughty and my bad boy forever.
- [45:56]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Forever.
- [45:56]
Tara
Yeah. Forever. Dogs don't die.
- [45:59]
Jessica Walter
Exactly. Are you living here in a year, ideally, or summer or Vegas?
- [46:03]
Tara
I don't know, man.
- [46:04]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [46:05]
Tara
Realistically, I'll probably still be here.
- [46:07]
Jessica Walter
Yeah, I know. That's life. How about. How about you? Are you. Have you found someone in a year? Are you still on your.
- [46:13]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That's what. That's.
- [46:14]
Jessica Walter
That's what you don't.
- [46:15]
Kyle Christian Lampe
Sure. You know, like, if that goes with kind of, like, my ethos, how I'm feeling now, like. Yeah, if. If it happens, cool. If it doesn't, cool. Because I'm. I'm honestly just, like, really enjoying myself.
- [46:25]
Jessica Walter
Yeah.
- [46:25]
Tara
Yeah.
- [46:26]
Kyle Christian Lampe
So.
- [46:26]
Tara
Well, good.
- [46:27]
Kyle Christian Lampe
I don't know.
- [46:28]
Jessica Walter
Well, I'm gonna wrap this up by saying thank you. Both for Tara. Back to sort of the top of the show for you coming on the show, Both of you actually coming on the show, giving it your all, being open, talking about things with strangers that basically are so wild and just both of you being open and being vulnerable. And I'm very grateful for both of you, and thank you for the fun experience and making it, like, so fun to watch. And you two are awesome, and thanks for having us. We'll do some updates. Maybe. Maybe season two. I'll be like, where's Tara now?
- [47:03]
Kyle Christian Lampe
That would be cool.
- [47:04]
Jessica Walter
I mean, we need updates on the bagel shop.
- [47:05]
Tara
No, the bagels are.
- [47:07]
Jessica Walter
Yeah, 100%. We need it all. Well, thank you, listeners. Thank you, audience, for tuning in. And I will let you know as soon as season two is gonna air. We haven't even started filming it yet. We may pop in some episodes in between now and season two to sort of keep you, you know, just give you something to listen to because you guys are great and nice and sweet and. Yeah, that's that. So we will see you next time and have an amazing day.