8: Episode 8: Diner Date

Summary

Episode 8: Diner Date – Detailed Summary

Introduction

In Episode 8 of The Date My Podcast, titled "Diner Date," host Jessica Walter continues her mission to help individuals navigate the modern dating landscape. This season, Jessica is assisting Kyle Lampy, her ex-fiancé, in finding new love. The episode delves into Kyle's recent date with Tara, exploring their interactions, personal backgrounds, and the dynamics that emerged during their diner rendezvous.

Planning the Diner Date

Jessica Walter orchestrated Kyle and Tara's date at Swingers Diner to provide an authentic, unfiltered first-date experience. Unlike their initial date, which took place in the studio with Jessica present, this outing was designed to allow Kyle and Tara to connect without interruptions. Jessica set up her cellphone to capture both audio and video, intending to blend clips of their interactions into the episode.

"So we're gonna air pretty much the entire date this episode. They're at Swingers. If you log onto the YouTube, hopefully it doesn't get taken down... They are going to hear the audio now."
— Jessica Walter [02:39]

The Dinner at Swingers

The date unfolds at Swingers Diner, where Kyle and Tara engage in a lively and humorous conversation. The setting provides a relaxed atmosphere, allowing both individuals to showcase their personalities beyond the curated environment of the studio.

Key Discussions and Interactions

1. Yolk Porn

A significant highlight of the date revolves around Tara's discovery of Kyle's Instagram highlight titled "yolk porn," which showcases creative and playful ways of handling egg yolks. This quirky topic serves as an icebreaker, revealing their shared sense of humor and willingness to engage in lighthearted banter.

"She had a highlight reel of. It's called yolk porn. And I thought that was hilarious."
— Kyle Lampy [02:16]

2. Personal Habits and Preferences

Kyle and Tara delve into their daily routines and personal preferences, discussing everything from exercise habits to dietary choices. Tara expresses a desire for intentional and quality time in relationships, emphasizing the importance of genuine connection over superficial interactions.

"I need somebody who's... a fully formed, emotionally secure, functioning person."
— Tara [26:33]

3. Family Backgrounds

Both Tara and Jessica share insights into their family dynamics, discussing the impact of growing up as only children and the challenges of single-parent households. These revelations foster a deeper understanding between them, highlighting common experiences and values.

"I was the only child until I was about, like, 24. And then my mom has three other kids."
— Tara [27:51]

4. Desires for Children

The conversation shifts to their aspirations regarding parenthood. Tara articulates a clear vision of her future family life, emphasizing quality over quantity in parenting roles. Jessica shares her concerns about health-related challenges affecting her ability to have biological children, opening up a vulnerable dialogue about future possibilities.

"I would love to own a house someday... I would hope to have like a long term partner."
— Jessica [17:18]

5. Dating Histories

Tara recounts her extensive dating experiences, highlighting her ability to discern compatible partners while maintaining respectful closures with those who aren't a match. Jessica reflects on her recent foray into the dating scene after a long period of being in relationships, sharing her strategies for meaningful connections.

"I have dated people where it's kind of a deal breaker... I constantly ask my parent friends, like, which one's your favorite?"
— Jessica [15:01]

6. Relationship Needs

Both individuals discuss what they seek in a partner, emphasizing emotional intelligence, the ability to communicate effectively, and the importance of mutual respect during conflicts. They explore how past experiences shape their current relationship expectations and behaviors.

"I need someone who's good to argue with. Like, it can be healthy and safe."
— Jessica [68:15]

Reflections and Insights

Jessica reflects on her enjoyment of observing Kyle and Tara's date, likening it to watching a romantic comedy. She expresses enthusiasm about airing the entire date, believing it to be a "masterclass in dating."

"Your banter's amazing. You ask all the questions you should. You guys are bad. And Tara's amazing, too. It's really cute, and it feels like you're watching a rom com."
— Jessica Walter [03:09]

Tara shares her perspective on the dating process, emphasizing the importance of being upfront and considerate to avoid causing emotional harm. Their interactions showcase a blend of humor, honesty, and introspection, providing listeners with relatable insights into modern relationships.

Conclusion

Episode 8: "Diner Date" offers an engaging exploration of Kyle and Tara's attempt to forge a new romantic connection under Jessica Walter's guidance. Through candid conversations and humorous exchanges, the episode highlights the complexities and joys of dating in today's world. Listeners gain valuable perspectives on intentional dating, communication, and the importance of authentic human connection.

"Nothing Makes me angrier. Was it too delicious that you had to, like, fuck it up?"
— Jessica [39:17]

"This is our first fight and you're losing because..."
— Tara [24:06]

By airing the entire date, Jessica allows the audience to witness firsthand the dynamics of a budding relationship, fostering a deeper understanding of the challenges and triumphs inherent in finding love.

Notable Quotes

• "I love that all caregivers undergo ID verification." — Kyle Lampy [00:25]

• "I'm a little tired. Gotta be honest, this weather makes me not want to do anything." — Kyle Lampy [01:41]

• "He can't give you a checkup at home." — Jessica [65:29]

• "I have a hard time, like, feeling vulnerable. I can be very combative about it." — Jessica [66:41]

• "Serious soft hands. There's no soft hands over here." — Jessica [10:56]

This episode masterfully intertwines humor with heartfelt discussions, offering listeners a comprehensive look into the intricacies of modern dating and relationship building.

Transcript

[Jessica]

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[Kyle]

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[Tara]

Get the Angel REEF special at McDonald's. Now, let's break it down.

[Jessica]

My favorite barbecue sauce, American cheese, crispy bacon, pickles, onions, and a sesame seed bun, of course.

[Tara]

And don't forget the fries and the drinks. Sound good? I participate in restaurants for a limited time.

[Jessica Walter]

Hello and welcome back. Welcome to the Date My podcast. I'm your host, Jessica Walter. This is season one, Date My Ex with my ex fiance, Kyle Lampy. Yay, Kyle. How are you feeling?

[Tara]

I'm feeling good.

[Jessica Walter]

Are you?

[Kyle Lampy]

Yeah, I'm a little tired.

[Jessica Walter]

Okay.

[Kyle Lampy]

Gotta be honest, this weather makes me not want to do anything.

[Jessica Walter]

Yeah. It's dark out.

[Tara]

It's cloudy.

[Kyle Lampy]

Yeah.

[Jessica Walter]

So you went on your date with Tara?

[Tara]

I did.

[Jessica Walter]

You went on your date with Tara. We're going to talk about it next week and next week's episode because here's what happened, you guys. So a couple days ago, we went to Swingers, which is a diner. Kyle picked Swingers. Why did you pick a diner?

[Kyle Lampy]

I picked a diner because when we looked at her Instagram live on the other episode.

[Jessica Walter]

Tara's Instagram?

[Tara]

Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

[Kyle Lampy]

She had a, like a highlight reel of. It's called yolk porn.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

And I thought that was hilarious. And it's just her, like, popping yolks in a very sexual way. So I was like, I'm gonna. Let's take her to a diner so she can. I was really curious, like, what is it about the yolk that you like?

[Tara]

Why? What.

[Kyle Lampy]

What's with this yolk porn thing? I thought it was really funny, so.

[Jessica Walter]

It was really cute. She was very excited to know that you guys were going to Swingers and going to the diner. So here was the plan for today's episode. So they went to Swingers, and I was like, I just want you two to have a date with no interruptions. Like, your first date was in the studio. I was there the entire time. That's weird for a first date. I know that. So your actual first date, AKA second date, I guess. But really, like a first date, just you two. Was I outside around the corner? Yes. With our producer, Scotty?

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Jessica Walter]

But we weren't. We weren't, like, there during the date. And I wanted that you two to really get to know each other. No interruptions, me not sitting there like a weirdo. But the whole plan was. So I set up my cell phone. Cause, of course, we're doing this on a podcast. So we. And we gave you. We mic'd you and Tara. So we wanted to capture the audio. I just set up my cell phone just to capture video. Because the plan was on today's episode. Basically, I was gonna clip moments from your date, and we were gonna talk about them. Whether or not I was like, oh, this was a weird thing to say, or, oh, my God, you guys are so cute here. But this is what happened. So you guys have your date, and then afterwards, we're like, okay, it's over. And they come out, they tell me, and I go home, and I go to review and edit the date and cut those clips. And the entire time I'm talking from, like, the moment the date started till the end, I. I was, like, laughing. I felt like I was watching a TV show. Like a rom com. I was, like, laughing. My heart was warm. There were some serious things you guys talked about. I was hooked. And I was like, I don't know what to cut of this date. Like, the entire thing is amazing. So I swear, since this. You know, since we're kind of like, we were able to pivot and go wherever we want to go this season. I was like, I want the audience to see this entire thing pretty much. So we're gonna air pretty much the entire date this episode. They're at Swingers. If you log onto the YouTube, hopefully it doesn't get taken down, because I think there's a little music in the background. But ideally, the video will be on YouTube. You guys are gonna hear the audio now. And it's just almost like a masterclass in dating. Your banter's amazing. You ask all the questions you should. You guys are bad. And Tara's amazing, too. Like, it's really cute, and it feels like you're watching a rom com. And so we're going to air that now, and then next week's episode, we are going to talk about what happened after and how you're feeling and all of that.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica Walter]

So how do you feel about that?

[Tara]

I think that's great.

[Jessica Walter]

Okay.

[Kyle Lampy]

I'm excited. Honestly, I. I'm excited to watch it back too, because, you know, when you get in a conversation with someone, it turns so many different ways.

[Jessica Walter]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

It'd be interesting to see, like, how those little seeds are planted and how you got to what you were talking about.

[Jessica Walter]

Before we air the date, is there anything that happened? Which we'll really dive into next episode. But after the date, how were you feeling versus after the date here in the studio? Yeah. How are you feeling? Like the difference.

[Scotty]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

Big difference, to be honest with you. So, obviously, it's strange to meet someone for the first time with cameras facing you.

[Tara]

You're here. We have these microphones in front of.

[Kyle Lampy]

Our face, and we try to be as authentic as possible. But, like, you're filming a show.

[Tara]

Right.

[Kyle Lampy]

So the way she presented herself on the couch over here, she's the same person through and through. It's just interesting when you see someone in a different setting, how that can change. Like, to be honest with you, I've been through the four in studio dates with the girls. Out of the four in studio dates with the girls, Tara was the one that aligned most with, like, the type of person that I would want to be with. But that being said, even though after that first date here with Tara, I was like, yeah, she's cool. But then when she showed up for the date on for the Swingers, like, she looked. She looked com. I could tell that she really put some. She put some time into looking great here.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

But she just. She's very beautiful. But she showed up and just like. I don't know what it is. It was just like, there's something different about her. Like a different type of charisma. Maybe it's because the cameras weren't there.

[Jessica Walter]

I was gonna say maybe it's because she could be more herself. Not, like, wasn't fantastic, but it's like she's brighter.

[Kyle Lampy]

It's like someone turned her light bulb.

[Tara]

Up a little bit.

[Jessica Walter]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

And so I.

[Tara]

We.

[Kyle Lampy]

And we were back there, and we got to kind of just really, instead of having it be questions that you're asked, and then we're pitching answers back and forth, we kind of got to feel each other out more. It's like sparring.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

It's like she would throw something at me, I throw something at her, and then it just snowballed. And I don't know. I just, I, I. And like I said on the. The podcast before, I like to take people out in the daytime to really see them, you know, and not be, like, not have the atmosphere, color it. And she actually called me out on that.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica Walter]

You guys get into that?

[Kyle Lampy]

Yeah, we got into that. Yeah. But it ran. It rang true. That theory is true. It's like I got to see her for what she is in the daytime without any impingements of a vibe from a restaurant or, like, a fanciness. And it was just like, I'm sitting across from this really cool girl who. Who was. Looked beautiful and was really funny, and it was like, oh, I'm actually getting to see her in a different light. Like, oh, this person is. There's much more here than I initially thought in the studio.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Kyle Lampy]

Which is how it should go, I think.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica Walter]

I love that.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica Walter]

I can't help it. We gotta go back to. You said it's sort of like sparring, Dare I say, like, jiu jitsu of sorts.

[Kyle Lampy]

I honestly, I honestly, like, I'm so sick and tired of hearing you talk.

[Tara]

About jiu jitsu and the word jiu jitsu.

[Kyle Lampy]

It's like, I'm gonna choke you out. You know what I mean?

[Jessica Walter]

On that note, ladies and gentlemen, on that sweet, sweet note, we are going to go ahead and let you listen to and watch this date. Enjoy.

[Jessica]

Did you see me across the street? I was, like, thinking about jaywalking, and I was like a squirrel. Like, should I go?

[Tara]

No, I didn't see you. I was in here. Did you see me?

[Jessica]

Maybe? I was like, oh, is that. And then I was like, well, I can't cross here.

[Tara]

You're telling me you didn't recognize me from afar? The back of your head, the one time we met?

[Jessica]

No, I didn't get a good look at the back of your head.

[Tara]

So the reason why I chose this place is we looked at your Instagram.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

And I saw a highlight reel.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

That was called yolk porn.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

And I immediately clicked on that because I was like, I need to know more about this. I was alarmed at first. I thought maybe you had, like, a weird, like, Yolk fetish, which I was like, listen, we could look past a lot of things.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

But I don't know about yolk. So I wanted to look at it.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

And I realized that you just are egg aficionado. Yeah.

[Jessica]

As it stated in my Instagram bio.

[Tara]

Wow. Yeah. So I was like, well, let's take. Let's put this to the test. I want to see you dive into some yolk horn.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Yeah. So I guess I'm telling you that you have to get eggs.

[Jessica]

All right.

[Tara]

I'm just kidding. No, no, you can do whatever you want. How about this? I'm gonna get an egg because I want. I want you to. I would like to hear, why a yolk? What is it about what makes you feel? Is it not like it's very sexual? Hi. What's up? How are you? We're great. I know. We're gonna eat. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

I think we need a hot minute. Thank you. No. Yeah.

[Jessica]

You've never popped a yolk and, like, been aroused by it? My mom yelled at me one time because I filmed one, and she was like, why are you rubbing it like that? And she meant, like, the clit. And I. Wow.

[Tara]

You know, live and you learn. I'm learning some new things. I've never really look at that as, like, a sexual thing, but if you think about it.

[Jessica]

But it's like, if the food is so good and then, like, the yolk is, like, the sauce, and you're just, like, bringing it all together. Yeah.

[Tara]

So what if I didn't like a runny yolk? Is that. Is that a deal breaker?

[Jessica]

No, it's more for me. I don't care. Cool.

[Tara]

Awesome. Well, I do love a runny yolk.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

I've never thought of in a sexual.

[Jessica]

Way, but I think I'm scared of runny yolks, though. That's, like, different.

[Tara]

Yeah, that's weird to me.

[Jessica]

Grow up.

[Tara]

Right? Seriously, bitch boy.

[Jessica]

Shit. Yeah.

[Tara]

Serious soft hands. There's no soft hands over here.

[Jessica]

Okay. Okay. Okay.

[Tara]

If I run my hands through hair, it'll be like Velcro.

[Jessica]

Oh, yeah. I have a little bit of that, too.

[Tara]

Do you? Let me see. I'll show you mine.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Oh, you got some calies.

[Jessica]

I do. I went to the gym this morning.

[Tara]

Some lizard hands.

[Jessica]

Yeah, it happens.

[Tara]

Yeah. That's cool. Oh. Oh, you went to the gym. Tell me about your gym.

[Jessica]

That is where I met Michelle.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

And sometimes we're good at exercising, and.

[Tara]

Then at times where we talk.

[Jessica]

Hell, yeah.

[Tara]

We just go there and talk. Yeah, that's cute.

[Jessica]

It's called a mobility day. Okay. A little bit of stretching.

[Tara]

So when you decide to actually exercise.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I actually exercise today.

[Tara]

Oh, wow.

[Jessica]

But not too hard because we're gonna exercise tomorrow.

[Tara]

Okay. What is your preferred method of exercise?

[Jessica]

That's the thing. Our gym is like a CrossFit gym, so they just like write everything up for us.

[Tara]

Oh, so it's a class?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Cool.

[Jessica]

And it's nice. Well, we go to open gym, so you can do whatever you want.

[Tara]

Nice.

[Jessica]

But we do the workout in the day.

[Tara]

What's the name of the gym?

[Jessica]

Bars and Burn.

[Tara]

Bars and Burn. That's cute.

[Jessica]

Where do you live?

[Tara]

Cuz.

[Jessica]

No. Jess and I were told you.

[Tara]

Are you going to murder me?

[Jessica]

Maybe.

[Tara]

All right, what are you leaning towards? What's your jam? I know what I'm getting, but you go ahead.

[Jessica]

Okay. I do love a huevos rancheros.

[Tara]

That's what I'm getting.

[Jessica]

Really? Yeah, it might. I'm afraid that's like not a graceful eat.

[Tara]

Listen, I need to see you at your worst.

[Jessica]

You said something last week that made me like. What does he mean by that? You're like, I like a daytime date because I want to know what you really look like.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

That like, freaked me out.

[Tara]

Why? Was it too, like, personal?

[Jessica]

No, I guess it's like, it's very easy to go, what do I really look like? To like, who am I? And then you just like kind of.

[Tara]

Spin spiral and you have an existential crisis. You stay up at night, like, thinking about your place in the universe. Great, I'm glad I had that effect on you. No, what I meant by that is I don't. When you're getting to know somebody, I like to take all other sprinkles out of it. Like. Like a low lit romantic dinner can really.

[Jessica]

You can't see.

[Tara]

Yeah, well, that while I'm old. But you can also. That can also really put a lens on who this. What this experience was. I want to go to. Like, what's the most bare bones experience? Because I want to experience you and not necessarily have the atmosphere change my. My feelings about things, you know?

[Jessica]

That's interesting.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

So I think I'm gonna be the same.

[Tara]

No matter where we go, you are gonna be the same. I'm talking about my. My perception of you. Duh.

[Jessica]

No, no.

[Tara]

And that's okay.

[Jessica]

No, no, no. I. That's like an interesting. I didn't realize men were so easily swayed. I told you a little sprinkle.

[Tara]

When we see a pretty girl.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Our Brain starts to shut off, and we have to remember, like, okay, okay, she's pretty. She's. But how is she? Who is she? Oh, yeah, right.

[Jessica]

That's unfortunate.

[Tara]

That's how we get in trouble.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Well, I. You know, that's how I get out of trouble. Like, me.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Not me.

[Tara]

Yeah, me.

[Jessica]

I couldn't. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tara]

That's great.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Anyways.

[Tara]

Yeah, that's what I meant by seeing the daytime.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Which. Think about this. If it goes great in the daytime, the sun's out. It's very low key. We're actually getting to know each other. Imagine how awesome it would be with an ambiance, a candle, if you will.

[Jessica]

Well, it depends. I mean, yeah, I guess if you have, like, really bad table manners, like, it could very poorly.

[Tara]

Right. And don't you want to see that?

[Jessica]

Yeah, you're right.

[Tara]

You're right.

[Jessica]

You're so right. See, because I've also done the thing where I have gone on, like, a fancy, like, candlelight thing, and I was like, oh, that was so fun.

[Tara]

Or was it just a fancy, fun, candlelight dinner? You could literally put any avatar in there and it's still fun. That's what I'm talking about.

[Jessica]

Okay. Okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah. See, no, I appreciate it.

[Tara]

Yeah. Speaking of seeing you.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Tell me about. So you're a writer.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

Is that something that you set out to do, or did you fall into that and realize that you love that?

[Jessica]

So it's interesting. We were pretty, like, fucking broke when I was growing up, and I thought I would just be, like, a nurse like every other Filipina out there. But I did have this talent. I was, like, young, winning a bunch of writing contests and stuff. And my mom, she was basically like, you have this gift. You need to at least try. Because if you try and fail, the worst thing that'll happen is that you'll be poor like you already are.

[Tara]

Well, you can always be a nurse.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Or, sure.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I guess it's never. Never off the table. But, yeah, she kind of, like, pushed me to, like, pursue it. And then, yeah, I went to college for, like, film and television production, and then I moved to Hawaii. I think we talked about this a little bit last time, and. Yeah, I don't know, it's just kind of been my path, I guess, ever since I was, like, 16.

[Tara]

Yeah. So where do you see it ending for you? Like, where's the. What's the end goal?

[Jessica]

Oh, my God, what a fun question to answer when I'm like spiraling career wise these days because the industry is so bad.

[Tara]

Yeah, it is.

[Jessica]

If I stay in the industry one day, maybe running a show, that's very, very hard. You have to really love it. I've seen how much like misery showrunners, like their lives are not happy. I don't want to be one of those showrunners.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

So I would settle for being like an EP on a show and making like a million dollars a year. Ep Executive producer.

[Tara]

Okay, cool. I know.

[Jessica]

Nothing more than a million dollars a year.

[Tara]

So they make more than a million dollars a year? Probably, yeah. You think you could live on more than a million a year? I could make it work. Cool. That's awesome. All right, what about besides career?

[Jessica]

The what?

[Tara]

What besides career? What do you vision for your life? What do you want?

[Jessica]

I would love to own a house someday.

[Tara]

Okay. You can do that with a million dollars a year?

[Jessica]

I could. Maybe not my kind of house.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Oh, I know. I would hope to have like a long term partner.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

But if it doesn't happen, I don't think I would be heartbroken either. I'm like, very happy on my own. I have like a lot of peace in my life right now. It would take someone pretty special, I think, to like disturb said peace. Oh, yeah.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Open to kids. But I can't help but feel like with every day that passes, it's less likely. I don't know. You're asking me what my dreams are and I feel like there's so, so like weighed down by reality and it's like sad.

[Tara]

It's okay. Listen, do you really, do you honestly really think that you won't find somebody?

[Jessica]

I guess I'm not living my life without being a priority.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

So if they find, they would, like, they literally have to find you.

[Jessica]

I mean, I need you to find. Yeah.

[Tara]

Okay. I'm out of here.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Cool, Cool.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

I don't know.

[Jessica]

What about you? What's your life going to look like in 10 years?

[Tara]

I have like such a specific vision for like. Like if I close my eyes, I can see it. I just can't see the person. You know when you have a dream about somebody, you know who they are, but you can't see their face? Yeah, it's like that. It's like I see a woman in my life. I see like me walking down this. This is crazy. I know, but me walking down the stairs of this, like, custom home that I built and like making coffee in the morning and I have a gym in the garage and I work out there. And, like, we have this awesome backyard that, like, I can see the sunrise and sunset in. I take, like, the kid to. To school every day.

[Jessica]

How many kid?

[Tara]

One kid.

[Jessica]

Only one?

[Tara]

Yeah. Take one kid to school every day. I'm. My schedule is free enough that I can, like, meet my wife for lunch in the middle of the day. I pick the kid up from school. We have family time. It's like, you know, pizza nights on Fridays. We, you know, do all that thing, obviously until the kid has grown up and doesn't want to hang out with us anymore. But. Yeah, that's kind of like how I envisioned it. Like, if. I wish I could, like, I wish I could hook your brain into my brain so you can see, like, what the living room looks like.

[Jessica]

Painting a pretty clear picture.

[Tara]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that's how it's pretty detailed now. Is that going to come to fruition? Who knows? Life's crazy. But at least I have, like, an idea of what it might be like. And who knows? But there might be a one Friday night where I look down at pizza on the table, and then there's my wife and there's a kid and watching a movie and I go, holy shit, I did it.

[Jessica]

Oh, that's not.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Where I was going with that.

[Tara]

What were you thinking?

[Jessica]

Like, I hate my life. That's like, I thought you were gonna.

[Tara]

Or I might. One Friday night, I look down at pizza on the table and I realize I'm alone.

[Jessica]

Blow my brains out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tara]

No, I don't want to make. I don't want to make a mess. Yeah, I do.

[Jessica]

You do something decent.

[Tara]

Make a mess. Yeah, you gotta leave an impact, you know, think more of like a bomb.

[Jessica]

A bomb.

[Tara]

But not hurt anyone else. No, I hurt him.

[Jessica]

What are you gonna do, Jump in the ocean wearing a bomb?

[Tara]

Honestly, become like, yeah, fuck those kids. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Okay. You hate the environment.

[Tara]

I love the environment. You hate it.

[Jessica]

You rub up on the trees in a gentle way.

[Tara]

I love trees. You don't like trees?

[Jessica]

You're dirty little hands.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Got your paws up in here. That's fine.

[Tara]

That's true.

[Jessica]

It's true.

[Tara]

Well, I won't be touching food on your plate then, if with my dirty hands. Okay, sorry. So you said that you. So you. You grilled me on one kid?

[Jessica]

No, I'm just asking, like, you have such a.

[Tara]

We're doing good. Do you know what you want or do you want more time?

[Jessica]

No, I can order really fast. I'll figure it out.

[Tara]

Yeah, if you're ready? You good? We're out here. Let's do this, lady.

[Jessica]

No, you should order first. I don't want to copy you, but I might.

[Tara]

Can I get the huevos rancheros, please? What's going to be the best yolk? Let's go over easy, please. Thank you.

[Jessica]

And can I do the all American, please? Yeah. How do you want your eggs? I'll do mine over easy as well. I'll do bacon, a pancake hold. Will you eat some of that?

[Tara]

I will eat some of that. Thank you.

[Jessica]

Thank you.

[Tara]

But I'll wash my hands first. I don't want to dirty.

[Jessica]

I went to the bathroom before this, so I'm assuming you washed.

[Tara]

I did wash my hands. You have to.

[Jessica]

You have to listen.

[Tara]

All right, this is gonna sound controversial.

[Jessica]

Oh, boy.

[Tara]

If I go pee inside of my own house that I have cleaned. Wait, just let me say it. That I have cleaned.

[Jessica]

Sure.

[Tara]

Like, I don't necessarily have to, like, wash my hands.

[Jessica]

You do.

[Tara]

Let me finish. If I go pee in a scary bathroom, you don't know, last time it's been washing. Who else has peed in there? A lot of people peed in there. The only people peeing in my house is me. I'm not peeing through my fingers.

[Jessica]

I'm not. So touching your doodad.

[Tara]

Yeah, but think how clean that is.

[Jessica]

Is it?

[Tara]

Do you know how much concentration men put on their doodad in the shower? With cleanliness.

[Jessica]

But it's still.

[Tara]

I almost spend too much time cleaning it.

[Jessica]

Just seasoning everything in your life with your wiener.

[Tara]

Yeah. Like. Oh, yeah. Have you ever seen a guy pee before?

[Jessica]

No. I have. Yeah. I know how it works.

[Tara]

I'm not talking about your pornhub history. No. Men peeing, whatever. Not kink shaming you, anyways. It's like, possibly one of the cleanest parts on the male body, to be honest with you. And you're not getting a full grip on it. It's just like a light touch. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like you're just hanging it out to dry. I have a little clip. If I had a little clip, would that be better?

[Jessica]

No. I don't know. Just wash your hands. That's all.

[Tara]

I do wash my hands.

[Jessica]

No, it kind of sounds like you don't.

[Tara]

You always wash your hands after you go poop? Always. No matter where you are? Yes, that's 100%. But if you're in your house and it's just a quick pee, who cares?

[Jessica]

Anyone else who's in your house, you touch anyone's face. You touch people. You're a trainer.

[Tara]

Well, I washed my hands before, right? Yeah. And I don't really. I honestly don't touch my clients very often unless I absolutely have to.

[Jessica]

No, you don't stretch them out.

[Tara]

No, they're adults. They can stretch their own selves.

[Jessica]

That's what. Like, if you're a personal trainer, I thought that's what people paint.

[Tara]

That's what people think. That's what people think. I'm not over there, like, cranking their leg behind their head.

[Jessica]

Why not?

[Tara]

Because I'm. I'm showing them how to stretch.

[Jessica]

Okay, I'm still not over the you don't wash your hands thing.

[Tara]

But I wash. I wash my hands every other time I go pee.

[Jessica]

It's, like, not great. It's fine. We'll work on it. Is our first fight.

[Tara]

This is our first fight and you're losing because.

[Jessica]

No, I can guarantee everyone is going to be put off by the fact that you handle your stuff and then you don't wash your hands.

[Tara]

But it's clean.

[Jessica]

It's not insane.

[Tara]

I'm not.

[Jessica]

Like the fact that it's a wiener, though.

[Tara]

Yeah, but it's clean. It's out. It's. It's excess.

[Jessica]

That's like saying it's like a clean turd. Like, that doesn't.

[Tara]

How. How dirty. How dirty is my finger right now?

[Jessica]

I don't know. It's probably.

[Tara]

It's the same thing. Now, think about this. Put it this way. My hands are dirtier than the thing that was cleaned and tucked into my underwear and stays in there until it's time for action, where it pees and it goes back into the thing. If anything. If anything, I shouldn't wash my hands. I should be washing my wiener because my dirty hands touched it.

[Jessica]

Well, technically, you are supposed to wash your hands before you use the bathroom, and then afterwards, too. But nobody does before you use the bathroom. Yeah.

[Tara]

Why?

[Jessica]

Because you're handling like precious cargo.

[Tara]

Maybe for you, because yours is internal, but mine's yours not.

[Jessica]

I mean, I'm not digging in.

[Tara]

I hope not. You're doing it wrong.

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[Tara]

Okay, Agree to disagree, but I think I made some solid points.

[Jessica]

How did we go from me asking you, how many kids do you want.

[Tara]

To whether or not I wash my hands because you made fun of me touching plants?

[Jessica]

Okay, whatever.

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[Tara]

I would like a kid, okay. And here's why. I think to be great at anything in life, you have to give it your all.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

And I really think that being a parent, your only job is to create a fully formed, emotionally secure, functioning person that's going to have to live and possibly cause harm to other people if you don't do it right. So I want to be able to give all of my attention to that one thing. If you have two things, one of them is going to suffer, one of them is going to. You're going to like one more like you.

[Jessica]

That's the thing, right?

[Tara]

For sure.

[Jessica]

Yeah. I constantly ask my parent friends, like, which one's your favorite?

[Tara]

Yeah, they do.

[Jessica]

The ones who don't answer are like.

[Tara]

That'S what I'm saying.

[Jessica]

Be for real. Yeah.

[Tara]

Like. And do you have to have two kids? No.

[Jessica]

They're expensive.

[Tara]

Right? And that's another thing. Financially, like, I want to. If our kid needs braces, it's going to get braces. If it wants to go to prom, I think you should be able to experience that. If it. We should be able to do family vacations. We should be able to have nice Christmases. I don't want to. Yes, you can have a loving. You can form a very loving, fully formed, awesome person with no money at all. People do it all the time.

[Jessica]

Like I grew up like that and I wouldn't want that for my future kids.

[Tara]

And I want that. And I didn't grow up that way. And I want to be able to give my kid what I got because I was like so thankful and it was such an awesome childhood. I'm like, why would I?

[Jessica]

Do you have siblings?

[Tara]

No.

[Jessica]

Oh, wow.

[Tara]

Well, what do you mean? I didn't grow up with siblings. I was the only child until I was about, like, 24. And then my mom has three other kids.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

I know. So technically. Yeah. I mean, like, my formative years were. It was just me.

[Jessica]

It was nice.

[Tara]

Yeah. Yeah. Which I loved. People think only children are wild.

[Jessica]

I think we're okay. I'm also an only child. Yeah. Look at us.

[Tara]

All right, so you want more than one kid being an only child?

[Jessica]

Well, no, I didn't say that. I feel like you can have zero. You can have one or you can have three.

[Tara]

Can't have two.

[Jessica]

No, because if they don't like each other, then that's hard.

[Tara]

Yeah. But if you have three and two of them don't like each other, they're always going to hang out with the third one, and that one's always going to be ostracized. That's whatever.

[Jessica]

Oh, okay.

[Tara]

We love trauma. Yeah.

[Jessica]

I don't know. Okay, one's reasonable.

[Tara]

Yeah. And think about, like, my contribution to a kid is, like, what, two minutes? Yeah. Three, if you're lucky.

[Jessica]

Yeah. You know, Is it important to you to have, like, biological children?

[Tara]

I think my. My pride says yeah, but if, like, you can't have it, like, who knows? I could be sterile, you know? You know, many years I spent with a laptop on my lap. I'd be radioactive in here, I guess.

[Jessica]

I mean, I asked that because I have dated people where it's kind of a deal breaker, like endometria and ovarian cancer runs in my family, and it hits, like, mid-30s.

[Tara]

Sure.

[Jessica]

So I very much feel like I'm approaching a deadline that will either leave me dead or unable to have children of my own. So it's very heavy. I'm so sorry.

[Tara]

What would you like at your funeral, speaking of being dead? Ooh.

[Jessica]

Okay. I actually think about this a lot. I would like to do one of those, like, funerals where I'm still alive for it, but everyone acts like I'm dead, so I can enjoy all the speeches.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

I would be a very fun dying person.

[Tara]

Okay, cool. Awesome.

[Jessica]

What about your funeral?

[Tara]

I want to be cremated.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

But I want a casket funeral, too. I want an empty cast just for the optics. I want people to be around, and I want them to be lowering a casket into the ground. And I can't decide if I want Enter Sandman to play or run in with the devil from Van Halen, which I think would be hilarious. And then when my casket gets into the ground, I want fireworks to go off. Wow. Or flames. Super metal. I want a metal funeral.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

That or I think it would be really funny, and I would probably be very traumatizing to my family, but it would be fun. Funny is on, like, a cliff. Oops. On, like, a cliff somewhere. They light my body on fire and they catapult it into the ocean.

[Jessica]

That's very Viking of you.

[Tara]

Yeah. But just imagine a flailing, burning body shooting. That'd be pretty funny. That's about it. Easy, right?

[Jessica]

Yeah. Doable.

[Tara]

But going back to the kid thing and you possibly not being able to have those.

[Jessica]

Ooh, wow.

[Tara]

That's me. Thank you. Look at those. Thank you. Wow. Appreciate you.

[Jessica]

Wow.

[Tara]

Cheers. Look at us. Are you missing anything? Do you have anything?

[Jessica]

No, no. Everything is here, I think.

[Tara]

Okay. As far as being able to have biological children, I. I would like to try, but if it doesn't work, then.

[Jessica]

Sorry. Try?

[Tara]

Yeah, I'd like to try, but if it doesn't work, like, I'm not going to, like, kick you to the curb because you got it. You know, you.

[Jessica]

You say that as if that sounds so ridiculous. And yay.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

To some men, that's a huge deal breaker.

[Tara]

I get. I. Yeah, sure. But I think. But we can still. There's ways to have children inside of another person's body.

[Jessica]

That is so expensive. We're talking about how expensive a single kid is to grow it somewhere else and then to. If it's a lot.

[Tara]

Well, you're the one who wants to make a million dollars a year.

[Jessica]

I'm gonna try. I do my best.

[Tara]

You can adopt a kid, and then if you can't, and maybe a kid's not in the cards. I think your relationship with the person you decide to spend the rest of your life with is more important than a kid anyways.

[Jessica]

I agree.

[Tara]

Because you would only have the kid if you have this person. So if you can't have a kid, you still have a spirit person, so why would you get rid of the person? Right.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I know. It tracks for me. I'm very open to the different paths, like, my future could take.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

But in not, like a messy. I don't know what I want. It's just life is so long and weird. Like, you have to be open to it all.

[Tara]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Should we eat?

[Tara]

Oh, yeah. First off, tell me about this egg corn that we're going to do here. Or yolk corn. So how do. So what. What constitutes the perfect yolk?

[Jessica]

Honestly, a poached egg is usually best.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Because you have, like, that mint brain.

[Tara]

Oh.

[Jessica]

And it, like. It just, like, has more of a pop to it.

[Tara]

Okay. So we like the pop.

[Jessica]

We love the pop.

[Tara]

Do you like pimple popping videos?

[Jessica]

No.

[Tara]

Sorry. Okay. Okay.

[Jessica]

But yeah, eggs, they're just.

[Tara]

You just like to the. To watch things come out. That's why I asked about the pimple popping thing.

[Jessica]

Thought you're gonna say something else.

[Tara]

That's okay. Okay.

[Jessica]

No, it's nice when it, like, has something to, like, seep into afterwards as well. Let's see.

[Tara]

Naturally.

[Jessica]

Yeah. So it's like kind of like running from the bottom. So I think it might have popped already. So this one's gonna be a little like.

[Tara]

Oh, yeah, that's a. That's a nice yellow.

[Jessica]

It's nice, right?

[Tara]

Okay. How do you get it to pop out, though? Oh, it has to be.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Like, usually.

[Tara]

Do you want me to squeeze it from the bottom and you can poke.

[Jessica]

It and shoot with your wiener hands? No, I washed them.

[Tara]

I washed them.

[Jessica]

I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I thought I was going to drop it in here. You know what?

[Tara]

I'm never living this down, ever. Oh, that's a good. That's good. I see. I get it. Oh, and it's warm and thick. This is not safe for kids.

[Jessica]

No. But, yeah, usually it's more fun when you make a noise with it, but then it's very disappointing when, like, it's not a good egg and you've, like, made the noise.

[Tara]

What's the noise? Do you do, like a laser noise, like a pew or a.

[Jessica]

That's the noise you would make?

[Tara]

Yeah, I would.

[Jessica]

It's more of just like an aroused, like, you know.

[Tara]

You don't make laser noises when you're aroused.

[Jessica]

No.

[Tara]

This is never gonna work.

[Jessica]

Good to know.

[Tara]

Oh, what about that?

[Jessica]

That's nice. See, and I love, like, the color contrast. It's nice. That's a good one.

[Tara]

Do you want some of my avocado?

[Jessica]

No, thank you.

[Tara]

Okay, great. Because I was hoping you're gonna say no, because I want it all for myself.

[Jessica]

This is, like, actually very soupy. This came with red. I feel like I have to put my hair up to eat.

[Tara]

Okay. Do you have a hair done?

[Jessica]

I do.

[Tara]

Look at you. Prepared. Were you a girl Scout?

[Jessica]

No, I just. I've had hair for a really long time.

[Tara]

Right. Yeah. And how long? My whole life. What was the shortest your hair has ever been?

[Jessica]

Oh, my God. I was like, eight, and my grandma took me in to get a haircut and they were cutting my hair away from the mirror. Like, I was like, why would they do that? I don't know. But then she Took the buzz. And then they turned me around and my hair was, like, up to here. I got, like, the classic, like, Asian girl, like, bowl cut.

[Tara]

Oh, cute.

[Jessica]

And then my grandma had the audacity to be like, we can see too much of your face now. Why is this the loudest phone?

[Tara]

That was so loud my ears ringing.

[Jessica]

Yeah, that was a lot.

[Tara]

Is it amplified because we're in the corner or something?

[Jessica]

I. I don't know.

[Tara]

Oh, using that as a mirror.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Oh, wow.

[Jessica]

That's really smart girl things, you know?

[Tara]

I know.

[Jessica]

It doesn't look stupid.

[Tara]

Effortlessly stylish.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

What would you call that? Effortless chic.

[Jessica]

Sure. Does it look. It'll do.

[Tara]

It looks great.

[Jessica]

It'll do. Thank you. Now you can really see.

[Tara]

What?

[Jessica]

I can flash. I can see you now.

[Tara]

I can see you. And check, please. I'm just kidding.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

Could you imagine?

[Jessica]

Okay, I have to ask.

[Tara]

Yes.

[Jessica]

How many dates have you been on since you've been single? Like, have you been busy?

[Tara]

Has it been a priority since I've been, what?

[Jessica]

Like, single?

[Tara]

Oh, I feel like I could write a book already. I feel like I could be a dating coach. I've been on so many dates, so.

[Jessica]

Many dates.

[Tara]

Where it got to a point where it was like I was having, like, four weeks. Sometimes I had two in a day. Sometimes.

[Jessica]

Two in a day?

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

That's so slutty. No, that's too much.

[Tara]

No, it's not. These are just. They're. They're just dates, like, getting to know somebody. They're just conversations. We're not, like, making out ferociously in the car.

[Jessica]

Really?

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Oh, come on.

[Tara]

Oh, is that with. With egg mouth? With yolk mouth.

[Jessica]

Oh, okay. I do want to ask more about your dating experience, but I also, more importantly, have to ask you. I know. People will be like, if you both eat the same thing that smells or, like, tastes weird, it cancels out. It's like, if we both have garlic breath, it's the same as neither of us having garlic breath. So it's okay if we kiss? Do you agree with that logic?

[Tara]

Is it meaning? No?

[Jessica]

No. Okay. Thank you.

[Tara]

It's just double garlic.

[Jessica]

Thank you. Yeah.

[Tara]

The only way that logic would work is if I had garlic and you had, like, mint ice cream.

[Jessica]

Why?

[Tara]

It would be a terrible conversation.

[Jessica]

No, that works.

[Tara]

But at least you would be on the fresher side. How about this?

[Jessica]

Okay?

[Tara]

We go out to eat, and then if we decide that we want to smooch it up, let's go brush our fucking teeth.

[Jessica]

You know, I'm a big toothbrusher.

[Tara]

That's good.

[Jessica]

No, I like. I'll brush, like, after lunch sometimes.

[Tara]

Nice. Nice.

[Jessica]

Just.

[Tara]

Yeah. So I may not wash my. My hands every time, but you brush your teeth. But I do brush my teeth. And floss my teeth. And mouthwash.

[Jessica]

Okay. Nice. I do, too.

[Tara]

That's it. I don't think. I don't think there's anything else you can do to your teeth.

[Jessica]

I sleep with a night guard so I don't grind them. It's embarrassing.

[Tara]

I have a night guard. Do I wear it?

[Jessica]

Okay. Do you, like. Do you want to have a root canal someday?

[Tara]

I don't grind my teeth, nor do you have a night guard because I had lockjaw. But it was stress.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

But the. The dentist convinced me to get a 500 night card.

[Jessica]

Yeah, I have that, too. This is. I don't normally eat my eggs with a spoon.

[Tara]

I'm saying it's a very. I mean, hey, it obviously makes more sense if they're runny.

[Jessica]

I thought I would have bread with this for some reason, and it would, like, take care of the eggs, but I don't, so.

[Tara]

Well, technically.

[Jessica]

Do you like doing that?

[Tara]

What?

[Jessica]

Like the.

[Tara]

I don't know, mixing things together.

[Jessica]

No, I guess, like, it makes me think of, like, a chocolate chip cookie. And it really pisses me off when there's, like.

[Tara]

Oops, sorry.

[Jessica]

Like, the flaky salt on top of, like, a chocolate chip cookie. I fucking hate that shit.

[Tara]

What?

[Jessica]

Nothing Makes me angrier. Was it too delicious that you had to, like, fuck it up?

[Tara]

You don't think the salt. But the salt is the contrast of the sweet.

[Jessica]

No, I don't like it. I don't like it. I'm eating a chocolate chip cookie because I want something sweet.

[Tara]

This is so. So far, this date has been going really well. We've been very aligned on a lot of things. But we have now taken two hard right and left turns.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Because I love a chocolate chip cookie with sea salt on it.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

I love the saltiness contrast with the sweet.

[Jessica]

I like it. I like sweet and salty, just not on a chocolate chip cookie.

[Tara]

What about a salted caramel?

[Jessica]

I guess I don't eat a lot of that. But, like, not. Because I don't like it. It's not in my life.

[Tara]

Well, when you make me cookies, could you please make some of them with a sprinkle of salt on top?

[Jessica]

Maybe hard. Maybe. Let's talk about your dating history, since. Yeah, I think that'll be more productive than arguing Jesus.

[Tara]

Yeah. All right. I went on a lot of dates.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

I met a lot of people.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

Which I think has been good because I've. I've really even gotten clear on what I like and what I don't like. And I've gotten almost like a sixth sense on dates of if this is something that's going to happen again or if this person is, like, for me or not.

[Jessica]

Huh.

[Tara]

No, really, that's the thing. They're not bad. They're just not for me.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Like, it's never been like, oh, my God, this person's heinous. Something like that. It's like, oh, we have really good conversation, but we just. I don't feel like this is a person that I would want to continue seeing. Or like, we conversation was stale, but it doesn't mean that's bad.

[Jessica]

How do you end it? You shoot them a text afterwards?

[Tara]

Yeah, for sure. I don't ever leave anyone hanging. I just let them, you know, appreciate them for their time, and it's just not a match for me. And I wish them the best of luck. And it's always been good. I've never had anyone to be like, you're an.

[Jessica]

That you know of.

[Tara]

Not yet. Maybe this the first one. But honestly, I, I, I really, I don't. Even though I've been on a lot of dates, I don't enjoy the process of this because if it doesn't work out, I don't like hurting people's feelings. And I know people get hopeful sometimes, but I have to remember too, like, it's just the opposite for them as well. Like, I've been let down by some. There's this one. I thought it went well. I went on a date with this girl. She was very sweet, very awesome. But she. I usually, by the time I get home, I'll text and be like, hey, that was really fun. Let's do this again. Or like. But I got a text before I even got home, and she was like, yeah, I just don't think I'm the right woman for you. And I was like, wow. But thank you. But it was just really funny. I was like, it was my first.

[Jessica]

So fast.

[Tara]

Yeah. Most of the time that was my first rejection out of this whole phase.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

But what I'm getting at is I don't, like, I don't like the feeling of hurting people's feelings or letting them down. Like, if I can tell someone's really into it and they're having a good time, I'm like. And I'm Not. I just know. I'm like.

[Jessica]

I get that.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Yeah, yeah.

[Tara]

It's really good, love. Have the bacon a piece, though.

[Jessica]

Have the piece of bacon. Yeah.

[Tara]

A piece of your piece.

[Jessica]

Just. You can have the piece.

[Tara]

You worked out today. You need the protein. Can I put my penis fingers on it?

[Jessica]

I'll allow it. Are you sure?

[Tara]

Yes. Do you want some of my huevos rancheros?

[Jessica]

No. Too soupy. I might drip.

[Tara]

Oh.

[Jessica]

And I'm scared of it.

[Tara]

Okay. Tell me about mom and dad.

[Jessica]

Only Mom. She raised me on her own. My dad was like. My biological father's never in the picture.

[Tara]

Yeah, same.

[Jessica]

Oh, really? Wow. We have too much in common. Maybe. Wow.

[Tara]

Are you my sister?

[Jessica]

Where. You're from Vegas. I think we're. That's actually a huge fear of mine.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Because I know I have half siblings that are, like, kind of around my age.

[Tara]

It's us. It's me.

[Jessica]

It's us.

[Tara]

That's actually. That's why I brought you here. Mom, dad, come out.

[Jessica]

Yeah. You never lived in Chicago. Your parents aren't from Chicago.

[Tara]

Let me ask you this, okay.

[Jessica]

We don't look in that whole light.

[Tara]

What if we kept going, right? And we, like, fell in love? That you love, and you found out that I was your half brother. Are we calling it. Are we just, like, okay, we're here. What are we doing?

[Jessica]

Maybe it makes me crazy, but I would do the latter. I wouldn't call it. I would continue.

[Tara]

Yeah, yeah. It works for the Game of Thrones people.

[Jessica]

There is actually a Lifetime movie specifically about this.

[Tara]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But our kids might not be the.

[Jessica]

I don't think we're gonna do that.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Yeah. That's the price.

[Tara]

Would. How would. Would we go back home for Christmas and stuff like that? We'd probably be shunned. Yeah. It's not our fault.

[Jessica]

The thing is, if we found out, I don't think we could tell anybody. It has to be a little secret.

[Tara]

Like, look at Luke and Leia. They didn't know.

[Jessica]

Oh, yeah.

[Tara]

They smooched.

[Jessica]

Dude. And he was so jealous of her for so long.

[Tara]

I know.

[Jessica]

Or jealous of Hans.

[Tara]

I'm sorry, but chances are. I don't think it's going to be an issue. Nothing about me is Asian at all.

[Jessica]

I'm half Portuguese.

[Tara]

That's cool.

[Jessica]

Are you?

[Tara]

No.

[Jessica]

No. Okay.

[Tara]

My 23andMe is. Honestly, it's like 93%. Like Norway, Sweden and Finland.

[Jessica]

It's like really fancy white bread.

[Tara]

Yeah. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Anyways.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

No, it's just me and my mom. We Are basically, like, the brown Gilmore Girls. Cute, but, like, also the Gilmore Girls happened in real life. Like, we actually fought. We actually got fat, and we were absolutely poor.

[Tara]

Nice.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Really glamorous. I don't know. We're close. It's been really interesting. So my mom, this is her first time going through life as well, and I think I have to remember that to give her some grace. She devoted so much of her early years. She had me when she was, like, 22. 21. 22.

[Tara]

To my mom.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Get out of here. Okay.

[Jessica]

And so now that I'm out of the nest and she doesn't really have to worry about me as much, she's finally getting that time to, like, focus on herself and, like, have fun and, like, I don't know, like, do I sometimes think it's cringey that, like, my mom will, like, want to get, like, plastered or something, but at the same time, like, when was she supposed to do that?

[Tara]

Right.

[Jessica]

She had to get your ass. Yeah, I know.

[Tara]

You know, Annoying.

[Jessica]

I know.

[Tara]

She want to go put on a little skirt and party around. Just got to take care of you.

[Jessica]

I know.

[Tara]

And crying.

[Jessica]

It happens. Yeah.

[Tara]

Or put you in the closet, you know, with a bowl of water. Go out. Bowl of water. Well, you get thirsty.

[Jessica]

Yeah. That's very nice.

[Tara]

Do with cats. What's the difference? Maybe I shouldn't have a kid.

[Jessica]

Maybe, like, a water bottle, at least a bowl is, like, very primitive.

[Tara]

Like one of those gerbil bottles that I would.

[Jessica]

With that.

[Tara]

Yeah, I know that's illegal. That sounds very illegal. But you honestly think about when, like, think of some of the stuff, how you were raised.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

And you're like, whoa, I can't believe my mom, like, thought that was a good idea to do.

[Jessica]

I have this. Okay. Have you seen Texas Chainsaw Massacre?

[Tara]

What a segue. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Sorry, Leatherface. He didn't know it wasn't normal to eat people. He just didn't know. And so I had, like, Leatherface theory where it's like, there are things that, like, maybe, like, families will do that you don't know isn't normal just because it isn't talked about. And you just assume every other family does it, but they really don't.

[Tara]

Right? Right.

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[Jessica]

Yeah, and so I'm constantly wondering, like, what is, like, the leather face?

[Tara]

What's your leather face?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Do you not know? I would love to know. We start a family, it's like every Friday, we hang upside down for four hours. Like, what the fuck are we doing? Yeah.

[Jessica]

Nothing I can think of.

[Tara]

Okay, cool.

[Jessica]

But it's like, I'm constantly reflecting upon it every time I talk to my mom, like, is this normal? Oh, no, actually, she didn't make me do it all the time. There's more than once.

[Tara]

I cannot wait to see where this goes.

[Jessica]

We would go and watch a really scary movie, movie theater. And my mom would be afraid to return to, like, this dark, empty house. And she would make me, like, check the basement. You go with, like, a steak knife.

[Tara]

She says her child like a canary.

[Jessica]

In a coal mine.

[Tara]

What if you never came back?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

So she just starts over, I guess so.

[Jessica]

Honestly, she was young enough.

[Tara]

Yeah, she totally could have.

[Jessica]

But I think it happened more than once, which made it not common practice.

[Tara]

But, you know, so that means scenario we're asleep, the alarm goes off.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

Are you gonna be right by me with the. With a steak knife as we. As we case the house, unfortunately, probably so. I like that. I like that. I can get behind that.

[Jessica]

It's like very white people to, like, not just leave. Like, we're gonna go check the house. Just. Just leave.

[Tara]

No, not if someone's in our house.

[Jessica]

Just leave.

[Tara]

You can't.

[Jessica]

Yes, you can.

[Tara]

But what if they. But we're upstairs, they're downstairs. How do you leave? We jumping out a window?

[Jessica]

No, I think you can, like, very efficiently get into your vehicle and leave. No, if someone is breaking into your house, they probably just want your. They don't want you, so just leave.

[Tara]

You don't know that, though.

[Jessica]

I am very handsome. They would want me. Is that what you're saying?

[Tara]

So you're gonna. You have to defend your castle.

[Jessica]

Really?

[Tara]

Yeah. Let's go.

[Jessica]

You're so excited to murder, aren't you? Because this came up last time too.

[Tara]

Listen, I don't wanna. You don't know what they're there for. What if they're there to hurt, like our kid or something?

[Jessica]

Okay, we just leave. We just leave. This is very drippy.

[Tara]

This is. You can leave. How about that? You take the kid, you start the car. I'm gonna freaking.

[Jessica]

That's fine. I thought that in the scenario scenario it was just the two of us in the house. And that's why I was like, yes, I would have your back.

[Tara]

Okay, cool. That's good. Can you climb a rope?

[Jessica]

I think I can't. I haven't tried in a really long time. But I've gotten much stronger since the last time I did.

[Tara]

Can you start a fire?

[Jessica]

That I can't do.

[Tara]

What if I gave you a lighter and gas? Absolutely. I'm just trying to see how survivable you are, you know?

[Jessica]

Are you an outside boy?

[Tara]

I love outsides.

[Jessica]

Are you like, I have to put you outside for like a week or two every year and you gotta go?

[Tara]

No, no, no. Do I like to camp?

[Jessica]

I don't know, whatever the outside boys do.

[Tara]

I like to go on hikes.

[Jessica]

Jesus, I am like, yo, everything.

[Tara]

This is your thing. I'm just almost witnessing. No, I like. I like nature. Are you a. Could you go camping?

[Jessica]

I've been camping. I'd rather be in a cabin.

[Tara]

Sure, who wouldn't? But would you go camping like in a tent? Have you ever been camping in a tent?

[Jessica]

I have.

[Tara]

Like on a. On the ground camping campfire?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Hose shower.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

You don't. You didn't enjoy that?

[Jessica]

I think it was fine.

[Tara]

What if it's a really nice, like blow up mattress with. With cozy comfort?

[Jessica]

Maybe I just like being able to like wash myself properly.

[Tara]

It's like a horse bath.

[Jessica]

A what bath?

[Tara]

A whores bath. That's what they call it.

[Jessica]

How dare you say that to me as if I'm not already familiar with it.

[Kyle Lampy]

Listen, I'm just calling it as I.

[Tara]

See it, you know? Sure, sure, sure, sure, sure. No, it is just wash the folds. Anything that folds.

[Jessica]

No, stop. Yes, they do fold.

[Tara]

Right? That's it. That's all you need.

[Jessica]

It doesn't feel the same.

[Tara]

It doesn't feel the same, but it's still clean.

[Jessica]

It's not. Sometimes clean is like a state of mind though, right?

[Tara]

Exactly. And that's what I'm trying To talk about.

[Jessica]

You are not circling back. Yes.

[Tara]

It's a state of mind. That's good. So. So we're not camping.

[Jessica]

I will do it.

[Tara]

You just want to enjoy it.

[Jessica]

I didn't say that. I.

[Tara]

What if I bring you enough cleaning supplies so you're clean?

[Jessica]

Maybe.

[Tara]

What if I spray you down?

[Jessica]

Okay. If we are camping, we're having sex, maybe the first night, but after that, like, it's. It's over. We're not like, I can't. It's like, it's too gross after that.

[Tara]

What if we. What if we didn't? We've saved it for the last night.

[Jessica]

Disgusting. Really seasoned.

[Tara]

Yeah. Yeah. No, you're the one talking about flavor earlier, you know, so whatever. That's fine. Well, how many nights are you thinking about staying out there? I'm not trying to live out there.

[Jessica]

Well, that's why I'm just, like, trying to get a feel for how much of an outside boy you are. Oh, my God.

[Tara]

I like it. Okay, but I'm not gonna, like. I don't want. I don't want to get, like, a van and travel around.

[Jessica]

Thank God.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Okay. Sorry. Are we splitting these?

[Tara]

Yeah, get in there.

[Jessica]

Also, I'm using every single set of silverware.

[Tara]

Do I need to go get you some more silverware as well?

[Jessica]

I'm so good. I'm so.

[Tara]

Like, a table knife.

[Jessica]

No, I have.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Is it okay if I pour it all on?

[Tara]

Good question. With syrup? Absolutely. Ketchup? Absolutely not.

[Jessica]

See, I. Listen.

[Tara]

Great coverage.

[Jessica]

Try. It's hard. Sorry. I'm not waiting for you.

[Tara]

No, I'm coming in.

[Jessica]

All right.

[Tara]

Do you have any tattoos?

[Jessica]

I do not.

[Tara]

Neither do I.

[Jessica]

Why not?

[Tara]

So my dad is of the generation that only criminals and, like, sailors have tattoos, you know?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

And so I used to talk about getting them. He's like, you can go get a tattoo when you're 18, but you're cut off. And I was like, do I want support from my parents into my teenage years, or do I want to? Because I was going to move to Nashville to do the band thing. I was like, I could really focus on music and not have to get a job right away. Or he had a bunch of tattoos. I think I'll just not get tattoos. And then time passed, and you get older, and then you just still don't have them. And then I can't think of a single thing that I would want on my body personally.

[Jessica]

Like, you said you wanted to enter Sandman lyrics on you.

[Tara]

Some of that.

[Jessica]

A cute little chord progression. On your. Yeah, that would be fun. Yeah.

[Tara]

I'm not going to do that, though. All right. Maybe when I'm, like, 80.

[Jessica]

So you know how it'll sit.

[Tara]

Yeah, right? Like, it's not. I'm not going to get droopier. Okay. What would you say. What would you say is, like, the most quirky, sl. Immaculate, embarrassing thing about you that you wouldn't show me for a long time into our relationship?

[Jessica]

So here's the thing. I'm pretty open. It's something that, like, I get really, like, finicky about my car.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

It's too big. It's too loud. I didn't want that car. When I went to go buy it, I wanted a RAV4.

[Tara]

Why did you get that?

[Jessica]

Because I hustled the. Out of the salesman. Like, got it down to, like, a really good price, and I was like, I have to buy it.

[Tara]

But you don't like the car.

[Jessica]

It's not that I don't like it. It's my little Barbie mobile.

[Tara]

It's cute. So what do you. What do you say? You're finicky about your car. Am I not allowed to drive it or look at it?

[Jessica]

No, I just. Don't look at me in it.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

It's really hard to keep clean because it's, like, so small in there. And, like, my dog will be in there. Sometimes there's just, like, random tufts of, like, dog hair in there. And I try really hard. I do my boy chores, I clean my car.

[Tara]

Boy tours.

[Jessica]

Yeah. And yet, regardless, there's still, like, some hair in it. I get really nervous when people watch me drive.

[Tara]

It's bad, so.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

If we drive together in the car, I have to stare straight ahead and. Or wear a blindfold.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Okay, so I'll drive.

[Jessica]

Thank you.

[Tara]

First off, this is. This might be a controversial thing, but I don't like. Let me preface this by saying I. I believe women are wonderful.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

I believe that they can do everything that a man can do and a lot of things better. Sure, I believe in equality, but there's just something about when I'm driving and I see a woman driving and there's a man in the passenger seat. It. I don't like it. I feel bad for him.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

I feel like, hey, man, what are you doing? I like to drive. I like to be the one in control of the car. And I think it just. It looks right. If a man is driving and maybe.

[Jessica]

Boy just has a dui, his license is suspended, then she should dump his.

[Tara]

Ass because he's a loser. Anyways. So I'll drive. I like to drive.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

And I don't like being driven. Okay. I feel like a. I feel so.

[Jessica]

You don't like feeling like that?

[Tara]

No, no.

[Jessica]

It's such a treat. I'm always the one driving. My best friend doesn't have a license. She's from Canada. And so. And then my other like best friend tore her Achilles. She can't drive either. I'm always like, come on kids, let's go.

[Tara]

Wow. So if we get, if we go on a road trip, I would rather pull over and get a hotel cuz I'm too tired to drive than have.

[Jessica]

You take a. Oh no, that's silly.

[Tara]

I'll freak out.

[Jessica]

Why?

[Tara]

Because like I, I can't go to sleep because I'm scared that you're like, you need a booster seat to see.

[Jessica]

While you drive in my little vroom vroom car with my booster seat. I've driven LA to Dallas by myself.

[Tara]

That was irresponsible.

[Jessica]

I have my dog with me, my bodyguard.

[Tara]

Okay, tell me about your dating life. How's that been?

[Jessica]

I basically had not been single from the age of like 16 until I was 28. I kind of getting into like a series of like long term relationships. Fun fact. Everyone I ever dated, the next person they date, they marry. It's very good luck.

[Tara]

Chuck, should we date?

[Jessica]

If you want. If you're trying to get married, if you're serious about your ten year plan.

[Tara]

Market yourself that way.

[Jessica]

Yeah, sure. But yeah. So I wasn't like really single single until like a few years ago.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And I'm really glad to be like wading into the dating pool and like fully formed prefrontal cortex.

[Tara]

How's it feel?

[Jessica]

It's fine. I can laugh at a lot. Like I don't think. I've only maybe really been hurt like once.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And then the rest is like. Not that I'm like going through it like not attached, but again, I can't make somebody feel a certain way and I shouldn't feel guilty. Guilty if I don't feel a certain way about somebody I know. So, you know, that's hard. I've got like some really cute and fun horror stories I like to call out story.

[Tara]

Why don't we talk about those you want?

[Jessica]

Yeah, okay.

[Tara]

Okay. So you're. You're till you're. Now you're. You're single but feeling fully formed. Frontal cortex wise going into this. Are you. Are you have like a timeline for yourself? Are you just Kind of like, out there experiencing it, like, whatever comes, pretty much. Okay.

[Jessica]

Yeah. Again, like, I think that people make really bad decisions under pressure.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And so, I don't know, someone I would maybe marry. I don't want to waste a second of my time with somebody I don't want to be with.

[Tara]

Sure.

[Jessica]

It's kind of how it is.

[Tara]

100. Did you do that in the past?

[Jessica]

Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

[Tara]

Yeah. Like, years. Yeah, I've done that before work.

[Jessica]

Yeah. It's hard.

[Tara]

I've technically been from relationship to relationship as well.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

But not, like, on purpose. It just happened that, like, a relationship would end and then a couple weeks or months later, someone else would just be in my life or in my. My. My atmosphere. That was, like, great. And then we'd start hanging out, and then all of a sudden I'd be like, whoa, it's been three years. You know, same.

[Jessica]

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get that.

[Tara]

So this is the first time, like, I've been, like, single. Single, too. Yeah. It feels. It's interesting. It feels weird. It feels weird because I'm trying to live in the moment, too, and be open to whatever comes. But I also am such a planner.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

And I'm also 40, and I don't want to be like, it's different when you're in your 20s. You're like, it's fine. I have time.

[Jessica]

But. Yeah.

[Tara]

I want to be a dad. And I don't. But I don't want to be an old dad.

[Jessica]

Sure.

[Tara]

And I. And I wanna. I wanna experience life with the person, whatever life I have left. And the sooner I can meet that person and experience that person. Oh, it's good. The more time we'll have.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

I don't want to be like. I don't want to meet somebody when I'm 60 and be, like, cool, we got 25 years left, you know?

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

So it's weird. I'm on this weird fence of, like, I'm just trying to be. I'm being really intentional, and I'm trying to control everything, but. But there is no control in this. And I'm trying to just live in the moment, too. It's like.

[Jessica]

Like.

[Tara]

Yes. That's what keeps me awake at night.

[Jessica]

Nice. There are worse things that could keep you awake at night, though.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

This is important.

[Jessica Walter]

I hate it when people are like.

[Jessica]

Love finds you when you're not looking for it. Like, oh, I'm sorry. I'm not supposed to play an active role in something so important. I'm just supposed to, like, Off.

[Tara]

Yeah. Like, I'm supposed to go places. Yeah, I know. Like, you. I. You can. You have to be active. You have to at least, like, go out in public and talk to people. And if you think someone's cute, you should start a conversation with them.

[Jessica]

Oh, I would never. But I understand.

[Tara]

You never start a conversation with someone who's cute.

[Jessica]

No. I'm so shy.

[Tara]

How do you meet anyone? They have to talk to you.

[Jessica]

I bat my eyelashes at them three times.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

And if they don't get the hint, then I'm fucking moving on.

[Tara]

All right. What about at the gym? Do you have any gym crushes that you're like, God, I wish they would, like, come over and talk to me. I see them all the time. I'm popping my booty out on these RDls.

[Jessica]

So we. We have. Our gym is like. Since it's like a CrossFit gym. It's a very small community, so.

[Tara]

Community. And you don't want to. You don't want to shit in the pool.

[Jessica]

I did it once.

[Tara]

Oh. Oops. How'd that go? Not great.

[Jessica]

It was not great. Can I tell you something I haven't told anybody before?

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

I faked it because I was ready to go home. It was really late at night.

[Tara]

Whoa.

[Jessica]

I know. I know.

[Tara]

He wouldn't have just stayed for the final finale.

[Jessica]

It wasn't going to happen for me. So I was like, that's so good. You did it.

[Tara]

Wow. But he could probably could tell.

[Jessica]

No, he couldn't tell.

[Tara]

That's terrible. And now that. That's. Now that's out here and now I can't unknow that. So, like, how am I supposed to believe you?

[Jessica]

I don't know. I can't come. I will. I don't know. This is, like, too much information.

[Tara]

Go for it.

[Jessica]

If I can finish from somebody's mouth, it's rare. It'll feel good, but, like, I can't get there. It'll be eating out of the palm of your hand. I will be so much nicer.

[Tara]

That's the hack.

[Jessica]

That's like. Yeah. Like a little puppy following you around.

[Tara]

Just because of that.

[Jessica]

Yeah. It's hard.

[Tara]

What if it's the other way? What if it's with normal penetration?

[Jessica]

That's like finance recovery.

[Tara]

You're not eating out of the palm of the hand with that.

[Jessica]

No.

[Tara]

It has to be.

[Jessica]

Yeah. If you're in it to win it. Yeah. You deserve a prize. And that is my undying loyalty.

[Tara]

Is that not a thing that has occurred in your life?

[Jessica]

Not Often.

[Tara]

Is it because you haven't felt close enough to this person or they haven't tried to know how to do that?

[Jessica]

It could be both. I will say, like, unfortunately, I need, like, mentally to be, like, stimulated as well. I need to, like, not think you're stupid. You have to, like, try to, like, bed me. Like, I have to feel seduced to. Really? Yeah.

[Tara]

To feel desired.

[Jessica]

Yeah, exactly.

[Tara]

And you have to feel comfortable enough that you're not in your head about, like. Oh, God, what is this? Like, what is he thinking about my life? Yeah. Women are so different than men.

[Jessica]

It's crazy.

[Tara]

Well, I mean, it's like diffusing a bomb, and every bomb is different.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

But it's good that you know that about yourself. Yeah. So that's the secret, huh? Just one and done. And then.

[Jessica]

Some consistency.

[Tara]

You're like a duckling just following me around.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Hey, I have to go to work. You need to go home.

[Jessica]

Oh, man.

[Tara]

You can stay here. Yeah.

[Jessica]

So, like, I'm somebody who's, like, really prone to forbidding crushes.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica]

Yeah, currently.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Like, I know.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

But for me, it's more just like, what is it about this person that I value and, like, I need to seek out in, like, people I'm dating.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

It is not exposing myself. That's not what the draw is there.

[Tara]

Well, you can take. Definitely say that you've been past first base with us.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God. It's like. It makes me feel very safe.

[Tara]

I hope so.

[Jessica]

Well, no, it's like, I've had, like, other doctors, even, like, female doctors that I don't feel as comfortable with. Yeah, he's, like, just very nice. He's funny.

[Tara]

You should just put your phone number up in there and you can fish it out and be like.

[Jessica]

You know how many people have said that to me?

[Tara]

What's that?

[Jessica]

Oh, no. Yeah, he's a good dude.

[Tara]

So you're an asthma.

[Jessica]

No, I really value the care that.

[Tara]

Well, he didn't care for you.

[Jessica]

No, he can't.

[Tara]

He can give you a checkup at home.

[Jessica]

No.

[Tara]

Hey, girl. Let's see how the cervix is doing.

[Jessica]

No, but, yeah, again, I think Forbidden crashes, like, teach us so much about ourselves.

[Tara]

So what is it that you're learning?

[Jessica]

I need stirrups, somebody. You motherfucker.

[Tara]

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

[Jessica]

No, I don't want to talk to you.

[Tara]

Okay. No, go ahead. You need.

[Jessica]

I just. Somebody, like, I have a hard time, like, feeling vulnerable. I, like, can be very combative about it.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

I use, like, a sense of humor or just, like, being a bully to, like, deflect. But I can be, like, scared with him.

[Tara]

Yeah. Yeah, right.

[Jessica]

Like, just worried about, like, health concerns and, like, I don't have to feel stupid asking questions. It's very. He gets, like, a raw version of who I am, and I want somebody who makes me feel safe like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[Tara]

And you want to try to find that in a partner that's not a medical relationship.

[Jessica]

Yes.

[Tara]

Yes. Great.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

I don't think that's too much to ask.

[Jessica]

Okay, thank you.

[Tara]

Now, I. I don't know how to give a pap smear, but I could learn, and I do look great in a lab coat.

[Jessica]

Not necessary. So not necessary. Yeah.

[Tara]

Awesome.

[Jessica]

I had a guy known be like, I have a mirror here. Do you want to see your cervix? And, like, I would die. I would pass out if I looked at my own living cervix. No. I don't know. It's like, too. I can. Somebody else's. I don't care. But, like, my own.

[Tara]

Okay.

[Jessica]

Looking into your guts.

[Tara]

It's cool. I would love to see that.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

I don't have anything that I can.

[Jessica]

Look at like that, but keep your colonoscopy pictures.

[Tara]

Oh, yeah, I'll ask they.

[Jessica]

No, they definitely let you keep them.

[Tara]

Do they really? Yeah, I'll make that. I'll make that my profile on all my social media. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So you need to feel safe.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

And secure.

[Jessica]

Whatever. I know.

[Tara]

And her and. Oh, that's a good question. What makes you feel loved and seen and safe in a relationship? What do you need?

[Jessica]

I think really intentional time spent together. I think it's really easy to fall into these patterns of, like, we're next to each other, but both on our phones. That's not, like, spending time together, though.

[Tara]

Yeah, no. Like, engaging.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

I think, like, maybe in a camping scenario.

[Jessica]

Oh, my God.

[Tara]

Just kidding. In the woods.

[Jessica]

I went camping on a beach one time, and it was terrible. So I can't help but feel like it was like, I don't want to go solid ground. Maybe it would be better, but I'm not, like, dying to do it.

[Tara]

Okay. So engaging.

[Jessica]

Engaging people are like, you can't expect to know when. You can't expect someone to know when you're upset. But I'm like, you. Actually, you can.

[Tara]

If they know you.

[Jessica]

Yes. If they know you. There's, like, an emotional intelligence and being clued into each other. I think that says so much. If you're not, like, reading Each other's patterns. Like, you're not paying attention.

[Jessica Walter]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Or you have, like, a really low emotional iq.

[Jessica]

Yes. I think that that's very necessary, and a lot of men don't have that. Also, I need someone who's, like, good to argue with. Like, it can be healthy and safe. Because I do feel like arguments are good for a relationship.

[Tara]

Like, when we. And we've had, like, four. We argued about this. Yeah. I watched you wash my. And I won that. And that's fine. You didn't want the salt on the cookies. Win that ketchup on the fries.

[Jessica]

I was on the same page as.

[Tara]

You, but we talked. Oh, no, sorry. In and out fries.

[Jessica]

Oh, those are trash. Trash.

[Tara]

So those three arguments. And those are. Those are big deals.

[Jessica]

Those are really productive. You feel like we grew from that? Yeah.

[Tara]

Well, this is what I think we learned from that.

[Jessica]

Okay.

[Tara]

I think you learned that I'm a worthy adversary and that I'm going to bring logic that you can't get past. And that's going to be. It's going to be. It's going to be hard for you. But you. You're going to learn, and you're going to grow from that. And you're going to realize. You know what? Maybe I should listen to what Kyle has to say a little more and be a little more.

[Jessica]

What does Kyle get from me if I'm just this doting student?

[Tara]

The chance to express myself. Because we learn when we teach, you know?

[Jessica]

Oh, my. I can't stand you.

[Tara]

Yeah.

[Jessica Walter]

Okay.

[Tara]

So I appreciate your contributions.

[Jessica]

Is it time? Kev is meeting Scotty Back to the office. Okay.

[Tara]

Can you. Oh. What? My meter just went off. We're done. We're. We're just. Now we're. Now we're just. Yeah.

[Jessica]

Okay. Can we shake hands one more time?

[Tara]

Yeah. Should we do a different one? So we've done this one.

[Jessica]

Yeah.

[Tara]

Let's make up one.

[Jessica]

What?

[Jessica Walter]

What are you coming at?

[Jessica]

Right, you go like this. I'm not gonna scissor your hand.

[Tara]

Why not? Those nails are crazy.

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