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Kyle Lampe
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Jessica Walter
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Tara
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Jessica Walter
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Tara
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Jessica Walter
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Tara
Hello and welcome back to the Date Mai podcast. I'm your host, Jessica Walter. This is season one. Date my ex. I'm here with my ex fiance, Kyle Lampe. Hello, Kyle. How are you now from the 30 seconds I asked you before.
Kyle Lampe
You know what? I'm awake. I feel good. I feel energized.
Tara
Full disclosure, ladies and gentlemen, if you listened to last week's episode, which I really hope you did because it was the date at Swingers, the official one on one Kyle and Tara date. If you. Yeah, this was. We. We are. We're in the same clothes because we filmed and recorded the intro 20 seconds ago. 20 seconds ago. And that wasn't the plan. We weren't going to air the full date. But a reminder, I said this last week. I started to go through the footage of the date and the audio for moments to clip and I like, I just like, was hooked. I was watching the whole thing. And I know that may sound weird, but hopefully if you watched it, you'll see it was just like so cute and funny and I laughed out loud. I was by myself in my apartment laughing out loud, like going like, aww. So I'm crazy? Is that what you said? Crazy? Oopsies. Medicated. So now we're going to get into it. And since then. Since the date, Kyle and I have talked, and there's a bit of a twist coming your way. You guys, in this episode, we're getting back together. No, we're not getting. That's what people. By the way, this hasn't even aired, and that's what friends and people are like, oh, we bet by the end of the season, you guys will realize you're meant to be together. So I can't imagine when this is actually out. Or maybe people will be like, oh, my God. I can see why you guys are not together. But if I said right now, Kyle, I'm realizing, like, through this entire experience, I want to be engaged again. Truly. What would you say?
Kyle Lampe
I would say, I hear you and I appreciate you taking some time to think about that.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
But I think we need to seek some professional help.
Tara
Me?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. Because something's wrong or we. You. Well, we are going to go get you professional help.
Tara
Why would you say that?
Kyle Lampe
Because that would mean that you. Your emotions and thought process are so wildly all over the place that could be so destructive to your life, and then take veering turns like that, left, right, left to right, that you. I think you would have to go see someone because you don't really know what's going on to make such brash decisions in your life.
Tara
I don't know. That happens with people, by the way. I'm not feeling that way. And we've discussed this many times. But you know that happens, right? Like.
Kyle Lampe
Well, of course.
Tara
I have friends whose parents have gotten divorced and literally years later are remarried.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, that's years later. We've been separated for seven months now.
Tara
Well, sometimes it happens.
Kyle Lampe
Okay, well, it's not happening.
Tara
I'm just saying.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, sure, sure.
Tara
It's very much not.
Kyle Lampe
Hit me up in 30 years. We'll see.
Tara
30. I'll be a wrinkly raisin.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, yeah. You'll be so hideous.
Tara
I'll be 63.
Kyle Lampe
Oof.
Tara
Anyway, let's get into the date and the. What we've discussed since then and all, so. The date with Tara. I want to hear your initial thoughts. I know we sort of got into it last episode a little bit. I want to hear yours and then you can hear mine.
Kyle Lampe
Okay. My initial thoughts of the day with Tara. I thought the date with Tara was in my. In my whole dating series that I've been on, like, all the dates in.
Tara
This show or since you just total. Oh, since we broke up.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
I've been on a lot of dates. I'm Very, very high in demand.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
Just kidding. There's a line out the door. No. Out of all the dates I've been on, this one felt like the most, like, instant connection and comfortability. Like right out of the gate. Coming from one I've been on. I've been on a couple like that. I should say it's not the only one. But. But it's. But they're very rare to have that immediately. And I thought, I thought that was amazing. To me, the biggest barometer of if a date's going well or not is how comfortable I feel.
Tara
Right.
Kyle Lampe
And how willingness I am to be, like, silly or joke if I'm not. If I don't feel like, if I feel some sort of way like that I need to guard myself or like, put a piece of myself back. Like I feel like I may be too much or they're not going to get my humor or I need to kind of, I don't know, be more serious. That's a red flag for me.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
But her, I felt like I could just say whatever and she would. Even if it offended her, I feel like she would still be cool with it and it would be like a conversation point. I don't know. She just, she just felt very comfortable immediately.
Tara
Yeah, yeah, yeah. And you could tell, watching and listening, you were. Especially me knowing you. Like, we started off this entire season by talking about. You were like, no one knows me better than you.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, yeah.
Tara
And watching this date, which is why I felt so strongly about airing the entire thing last week was. I was like, oh, Kyle is himself right now. He's laughing, he's making the jokes. And she is like. She is on the same level.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. Reciprocating.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
And the things that we found, we found the same kind of things funny. And even when we disagreed about some very silly things, we made it.
Tara
We.
Kyle Lampe
We like, kept coming back to those things, which I thought was really great.
Tara
You. You. You literally circled back.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, yeah. But she got it too.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
She was like, oh, I, like, laughed about it. No.
Tara
Not washing your hands.
Kyle Lampe
Yes. Which.
Tara
Okay, so let me talk about a couple moments in the date that I caught and I wanted to ask you about.
Kyle Lampe
Okay.
Tara
Most of them were positive. The one was, uhoh, you guys. Well, this isn't even negative. I'm just curious. You guys talked. She brought up like a kiss you were talking about, like, oh, if I. We kissed and had like yolk breath or something.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Tara
Do you think that was her hinting, opening it up for you to be like, let's see.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, I don't know. I didn't.
Tara
Because what we're about to talk about next.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, interesting.
Tara
It made me think maybe if this next thing we're about to talk about wasn't in play, you would have caught onto that. Or maybe you knew and you were like, I gotta not. I gotta keep this. Keep this distance.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, I didn't. I didn't catch that at all. I thought that was just, like, a silly question. Banter to ask because you like kind of vetting, like, how do I feel about that? So when that time eventually comes. I didn't think it was, like, opening it. Let's find out.
Tara
Oh, okay.
Kyle Lampe
Squirt yolk in our mouth and make out.
Tara
You know, I thought maybe she was opening it up for. If I were on a date and I said that to a guy, I. I'm not, like, trying really hard, but I'm opening it up to be like, okay, you can. You can go one of two ways here. You can, like, make a joke and keep the distance, or you could be like, well, I just ate egg, and you just say, egg. Let's share.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, I think it was. I think it was. I think it was like that. It's like a We. We started. I think it was a way to dip your toe into the. The physical, flirty realm.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Like, it, like. But I don't think that she. If I was like, yeah, sure. I don't think she would. She probably would have.
Jessica Walter
Whoa.
Kyle Lampe
Chill, dude. Swingers. Yeah.
Tara
Let's talk about what happened immediately after. Just take us through. You guys go on this date. Mm. You're feeling good?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. I was like, wow.
Tara
What?
Kyle Lampe
That was like a. That was a textbook A plus date. Honestly, you wouldn't want a date to go any other way.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
Like, it was great.
Tara
So then what happens? I sort of. Just so you guys know, I sort of. After that date, next episode, the final episode, we're doing like, a. Where are they now? Catch up. And we're gonna catch up with both of them, Kyle and Tara. And so I sort of wanted to give them space. I didn't say, like, oh, you should reach out or talk on the phone. I just sort of left it alone. You had the private date? And I was like, okay, great. I'll see you, Kyle, in a few days at the studio. What happened after? Did you reach out to her? She reached out to you? And how did that go?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, I didn't know, like, what the protocol was. Like, we didn't. We didn't really Discuss or like, we never exchanged phone numbers.
Tara
You called her. You guys saw, though, you called her.
Kyle Lampe
Off Kyle's phone, but we never, like, exchanged. Yeah. Cause I didn't know the rules of the show. I kind of just like, I'm showing up and seeing what happens. So she very sweetly texted me out of the blue, which I gotta be honest, at first, because I didn't. I don't have her phone number saved. I was like, because it's Black Friday. I was like, another one's Black Friday is this. And. And she just let me know that it was really nice to start to get to know me under these weird circumstances. And I was like, oh, that's really nice.
Tara
So same day, she text you?
Kyle Lampe
No, no, no. Day. Day after day. Which I thought was really nice. And she even said she's like, I don't know what the protocol is. I don't know if I'm breaking protocol, but it's been nice to.
Tara
Are we allowed to read these, do you think? Or do you think that's a little invasion of her privacy? Maybe we don't read hers, but we read. Or what?
Kyle Lampe
What do you think I would. I don't know. I have no problem with it, but I wouldn't want to just, like, blow up her spot.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, I think maybe out of respect.
Tara
Okay, well, we are going to get into texts that Kyle sent her, but we'll keep hers off air.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, so she texted me that, and I didn't know what the protocol was, so I didn't text her back immediately. But.
Tara
You say. I mean, talk about it. Let's see it. We got to get into something, ladies and gentlemen. And this is.
Kyle Lampe
Okay, so this is kind of where it gets a little gray area. So obviously, before I signed on to be on this show, I had been on Hinge.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
That's the whole reason you wanted to do this. Part of the reason why I do the show is like, it. Wouldn't it be interesting if, like, we have this concept? So I had, you know, been on a bunch of dates, and I matched with a girl that I was like, oh, she's cool. You know, we went on a date. We were kind of texting back and forth in the early stages of us doing this show. And I even told you before we started doing this show, I was like, hey, I'm talking to someone right now. It's not serious. I still want to do this show, but I'm just letting you know that I'm talking to this girl. She doesn't want to be on the show.
Tara
And also, she knew you were doing, like, your first date. You were like, I told you, by the way, I'm not like, yeah, I.
Kyle Lampe
Signed on this show. Yeah. I signed on to be on the show. So I was like, okay. But I still wanted to be open because one thing I learned from this year, you don't know what's going to happen.
Tara
Right.
Kyle Lampe
I mean, seven months ago, I thought we were still on the path to what we were doing. Right. And now we're here, which is. Which is wild to think. So I was. One thing I learned from this year is, like, you just say yes to more stuff. I'm a very, like, no. Rigid person. I was like, let's open myself up to yes.
Tara
And I do want to stress because maybe some people hearing this are like, wait, wait, wait. So you came on this dating show. He was not talking. He literally. Because we had the conversation. I said, wait a sec. He. Before he even went on an in person date with this girl, he said, we've been texting. Like, I kind of want to go on a date with her again before the show started filming. And. But it's not serious. I was like, okay, great, go. And on the first date, you told her about the show. And then they just kind of. He kept it chill. It wasn't like you dove all into this relationship, but we're still on the show, and it was fake. So anyway, keep going.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, so I wanted to show up to the show and be open to it too. Like, hey, who knows? Again, like, my wife could walk through this door, you know? But obviously I'm still texting and getting to know this girl on the side as well, and that has, like, continued to build and build and while doing this. So by the time I got to go on the date with. I'm bleeding. Wow.
Tara
Are you.
Kyle Lampe
I don't know why.
Tara
Guys, it's lit. Let me see. Let me see the blood. This is such a man thing. Can I see it? See it that you can't even see it. The tiniest, tiniest speck of blood. Okay, really quick. Also, I want to mention disease free type O negative.
Kyle Lampe
Okay, so, yeah, so by the time. By the time I went on the date with Tara, I had really started, like, developing feelings for. For this. For this girl that I met. So. But I still was like, all right, I'm gonna go on this date. I want to see this thing through. I'm not gonna shut down halfway through this. That would be stupid to go through this whole thing and be like, well, I Guess we'll just do it for the cameras. No, I still. And that's why when I went on the date with Tara, I was like, oh, wow. Like, I wasn't expecting her to be this, like, cool and great. So when she texted me, I was kind of faced with the decision of, like, well, I've kind of already started boiling water in this area. Do I want to start a new, like, fresh pot of water to boil? You know? And me personally, I'm not a person that juggles multiple people. I can't do it. I.
Tara
Yes. And I want to keep your thought, but I want to say, because Kyle and I had this conversation, I think maybe when a lot of people hear this, they're like, oh, my God, it's serious. It's a relationship. This is not his girlfriend, this other girl. But when I said to Kyle, I said, this is what people do. They date. Usually, especially at the very beginning, they date multiple people at once. And you responded to me and said.
Kyle Lampe
I said, yeah, people do date multiple people at once, but there comes a time where you have to make a decision. And I. And I think, honestly, that's the biggest problem with dating and dating apps nowadays is there's always another choice and there's always another option that we weren't used to having all the time. And I think that's what really messes people up and why people get in this cycle of, like, why am I always dating and on hinge and I can never find anyone. It's like, well, you gotta find the thing that lights you up, and you have to make a decision. Now, here's the deal. The girl that I'm seeing right now is fantastic. She's awesome. I have a really good time with her, and she checks all of my boxes that I need. Here's the funny thing. Tara. Beautiful, awesome, really great connection, really great conversation. Based on just the one conversation we had, she checks a lot of my boxes. You know what I mean? So it's like, it's red pill or blue pill. I. I honestly think that if I continue doing what I'm doing with this girl, I'm gonna. I'm gonna possibly be happy, right? Cause you never know what's gonna happen, of course, but you're gonna put effort into it. Or I could break that off and I could go with Tara, and I think that I could possibly be happy. So it's like, what are you gonna do? You can choose. You. You choose a path, right, and put your time into it. But just timing is everything in life. It's like, the perfect gray area. Timing the way this all coalesced, which I didn't expect that to happen. And I think it might be interesting for people to see this, because this is like, real life dating.
Tara
I know. And we talked about this. Kyle was, you know, because I've always said, I want this to be authentic. So as soon I wasn't expecting this with the other girl too. After the date went well with Tara, I was excited. You know, I let them have the space, but I was excited. And Kyle will get into the texts that they went back and forth on. And so when he called me and said this is what he said to Tara, I was quite surprised. I'm like, wait, is this other girl your girlfriend? And he was like, no, of course not. I was like, I thought it was, like, casual dating. And he was like, no, she's not my girlfriend. But. And that's when I was like, kyle, this is what people do at the beginning of dating. They date multiple people at once. And that's when you were like, yeah, but I don't like that. I like to give my focus to one, even though she's not my girlfriend. And then I said, if this other girl didn't exist, what would you say to Tara? And you were like, yeah, if this.
Kyle Lampe
If. If I hadn't already started laying the foundation of. Of what could. What could be an awesome relationship with this other girl. And I think Tara 100% fits the bill of. Of someone that I could totally go.
Tara
For, you know, like, you would have kept hanging out.
Kyle Lampe
Like, this is, like. This is such a weird gray area, like, make or break moment.
Tara
I know.
Kyle Lampe
And I think you and every relationship has multiple of these where you get to this point, and it's like, you can make a choice right now, and that's gonna make or break it. But I think those areas are what ultimately makes the relationship stronger. And I think at the end of the day, at the end of this process, really, I think what it's gonna do is it's going. It's. It's kind of shown me, okay, listen, you've gone through this whole process. This is, like, now further proof that you're making the right decision because you still want to pursue this person gone through the date.
Tara
I had also asked this to Kyle. I said, when I knew this, this other girl was casual, I said, okay, but you're still open to, like, if you meet the perfect match, being like, oh, yeah, this is who I'm gonna pursue. I'm gonna break it off with this Other girl. And he was like, yeah, absolutely. Next episode, we. To be transparent, the final episode will be shot. You know, it's airing for all of you next week. But at. With this timeline, it'll be about two months from now.
Kyle Lampe
So.
Tara
So we're gonna do a. Where are they now? We're gonna bring in Tara. We're gonna bring in Kyle. Maybe the girl Kyle's dating. Or maybe it will not have even lasted. I mean, who knows, like, how much changes and so much.
Kyle Lampe
Maybe it doesn't work. And I realized, like, oh, maybe I need to take a step back and regroup, you know, be alive.
Tara
Yeah. And that's fricking life. And that's why I was like, let's talk about it. Things are so crazy. And that's why I was like, this happens. People date and they meet. Look at the notebook. She had two. Ally had two amazing options. I feel, of course, Noah was the one. But, like, she had a wonderful, beautiful husband in this or husband to be fiance in the city, but she had to choose.
Kyle Lampe
I hated that you just did that.
Tara
Why?
Kyle Lampe
Because that's a movie.
Tara
That's a movie. Okay. And also, can I say, have those hands been backwards for the entire time? Can you please flip them? And I have been listening to you, but looking and been like, oh, my God, the heart. Hands are the wrong way.
Kyle Lampe
This is how you would do it. Do you see? No one does it like this. You can't do it this way. Oh, and this is exactly my point is your brain doesn't work well. Okay.
Tara
Okay. So let's get into the text.
Kyle Lampe
Okay.
Tara
So you. Tara texts you.
Kyle Lampe
Wait, can I finish?
Tara
Oh, yes, Absolutely.
Kyle Lampe
So we've said a lot of things. I like to summarize points. Here's the summarization of this. I went into this completely open, knowing that I've already stepped my foot into what could be the beginnings of a relationship. As I went through this, those. Those beginnings of that relationship kept growing, but I was still remaining open. When I met Tara, it got to a point where that other relationship had sprouted, and it's, like, growing. So now I had to make a choice. Do I want to cut that off or go with. With. With Tara? And as far as timing goes, it just. The timing just doesn't align with where my heart is right now.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
That's really. Essentially, it has. And it has no bearing on, like, Tara's worth or how cool she is or how, like, we could have worked out. It's quite literally timing. And timing is a bitch sometimes.
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Tara
Even though at first my first instinct when Kyle told me what he texted Tara was like a little annoyed and frustrated, I had to change my perspective because that's not what this dating show is about. The whole point of this dating show, you know, at the beginning, of course, I said like, oh my God, I could find your perfect match. A couple things. Number one, it was really. It's to highlight dating people I know and love. I'm like, let me try and match. Make you from my perspective and think outside of your box and push you outside of your box. But with Kyle, we know from the beginning of this season, like, and you know what you want. He wants a serious monogamous relationship. So it would be wild of me to have been like, stop talking to that girl. And no, if, you know, of course, if they became super serious, you would have told me and I would have been like, you know, a girlfriend. I would. Absolutely, absolutely not. You can't be dating and have a girlfriend. Like, we. We can't shoot the show. But you were open to pivoting and you ended up feeling the way you feel. And in my heart, I hope it's an amazing relationship.
Kyle Lampe
You know what's funny? If. If, if timing were different, it was you. You nailed it, though. What did I. Yeah, like you. You found a person that fits the mold.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
So it works. It just.
Tara
Well, technically our friend Michelle did, but I wouldn't have brought her on the show.
Kyle Lampe
But timing just has a different story right now.
Tara
So let's get into. Are you. Can we get into the texts?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, sure. So we won't show what I said.
Tara
Yeah, we won't show Tara. So she reaches out to you and then how long do you wait to respond to her?
Kyle Lampe
She reached out to me. I didn't want to respond right away.
Tara
Why?
Kyle Lampe
I wanted to think about it. I want. Well, and also too. It was. It was on Wednesday.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Before Thanksgiving.
Tara
Okay. And timeline reveal.
Kyle Lampe
Was that not good?
Tara
No, it's just life. Authentic.
Kyle Lampe
I didn't Text until the next day.
Tara
Okay, so you texted on Thanksgiving.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
Okay. Why did you do that, I wonder? Because for me, that is something I'm sensitive about, and I'm not dating now, but I think if I were, I'd be like. I would immediately think, one, you're either playing a game. I mean, this is not with you. If I. If I went on a first date with a guy and I texted him a few hours later, and then he didn't respond until the next day, I'd probably be annoyed. Number one, I'd be like, okay, you're waiting. Are you playing this stupid waiting game that I don't believe in, like, annoying? I love that Tara texted you first, by the way, because I know a lot of girls that are like, he can text me first.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. Which I thought was fantastic. Just shows that she doesn't play the game well. My answer is simple.
Tara
Okay. And number. Well, I was gonna say number two, I'm like, you had such a good time. Why wouldn't you text me? But I know you didn't know. Tell me your answer. You didn't know the rules of the. Of the show.
Kyle Lampe
Well, there's a couple reasons I didn't know the rules of the show. Number two, I was. When I got the text, I was. I was with the other girl that I'm seeing and to give her player.
Tara
Don't hate the player.
Kyle Lampe
And when I'm with her, I'm giving her my undivided attention. I'm not checking my phone. I'm not looking at things.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
And then three, I pay my cell phone bill to use my phone however I want to.
Tara
Sure.
Kyle Lampe
I'm not at the beck and call of anyone.
Tara
Right.
Kyle Lampe
But we. None of us are. So I just think, like, it might be nice for girls to hear this. It's not a game or a calculated thing. It's just like, I was living my life, and I'll get to it when I can give it attention.
Tara
You could see how that maybe doesn't make. Would maybe not make another person feel.
Kyle Lampe
Well, sure, I could see how that could make them not feel good, but ultimately, that's on them because my actions haven't shown any other way that would make them feel bad. So if they're making a story up in their head, that is not on me at all.
Tara
If this other girl didn't exist, would you have answered, responded sooner?
Kyle Lampe
Well, probably because I wouldn't. No. But listen. Because I wouldn't be out with her.
Tara
Yes.
Kyle Lampe
If she didn't exist.
Tara
Exactly. So I Love that. So you're not like, this guy's just like, I'll get around to you when I get around to you.
Kyle Lampe
No, I'm very communicative.
Tara
Yes, yes, yes.
Kyle Lampe
But in being very communicative, when I'm with the girl I'm dating, I'm communicating with her. I'm with her. I'm not with. I'm not with my phone.
Tara
I understand that. Okay. So you respond the next day, and you say, oh, and we'll. If you're watching the YouTube, we will put the screenshots up so you can see the cadence of the text, the punctuation. All of that is very important.
Kyle Lampe
Basically, to summarize, she said, it's nice getting to know you under these circumstances. And I thought it would be funny to make a joke based on our date.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Which we talked about. Taco Bell. And so I said. Because she texted me unwarranted, out of nowhere, I said, ma'am, this is a Taco Bell. Have you. By the way, have you tried our new Turkey Crunch wrap Supreme? Because it was on Thanksgiving. But then I went right into. I said, hey, I had a really great time getting to know you as well. You're so funny and easy to talk to. And we rely on a bunch of things, except sea salt on chocolate chip cookies. And then I said in quotations, I'll never recover from that, because, honestly, I won't. I think that's.
Tara
I know.
Kyle Lampe
That's why. And I said, full disclosure. I met someone a few weeks ago that I think I want to pursue more seriously. Um, if it wasn't for that fact, I would totally see you again. But timing is just off right now. Um, I said, just know that every time I go pee at my house, I'll think of you as I decide whether or not I'm going to wash my hands. Because that was another thing we talked about.
Tara
Right.
Kyle Lampe
So I wanted to keep it, like, light, but be serious, let her know, like, hey, this is. I want to be totally transparent. I think you're great. And then throw in some things to let her know that I really was present on our date and I really was listening to you and engaged with you.
Tara
Yeah. I love that text. Did she respond?
Kyle Lampe
She did. Her response.
Tara
I think we could read this one.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, okay. She said. She said, yikes, I wish I knew this sooner, but thanks for letting me know. And I kind of took that as, like, oh, I hope that she doesn't feel, like, slighted or led on, or like, we just used her for a TV show or whatever. So I was like, ooh. I could see how she feels that way though. So I wanted to, I wanted to go a little deeper and say, I hear you completely and I understand where you're coming from. For what it's worth, I want. I went into this knowing we'd enjoy each other's company and have fun. Jessica had mentioned you weren't looking for anything serious when she asked you to be on the show. So I thought a non pressure breakfast would be a great way to connect. I'm sorry if you felt misled or uncomfortable. My mindset was we had a great connection in the studio. So let's see how we click in real life. I thought we had an effortless flow, but like everything in life, timing is everything. This just isn't the right time and that has nothing to do with your worth or how great of a person you are. I hope this clears the air and that there are no hard feelings. You're truly wonderful and I really appreciate and admire you for taking the chance on this because most people wouldn't.
Tara
Yeah. And what'd she say?
Kyle Lampe
There's been no answer.
Tara
When did you send this?
Kyle Lampe
Yesterday.
Tara
What time?
Kyle Lampe
Let's see. Oh no, sorry. I said that today at 7. 7 in the morning.
Tara
In the morning? It's 3:00.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
I now will tell you guys, I also reached out because Tara's just a sweetheart. I never want any anyone coming on the show. I will say in like the pre show call I had with these girls to get to know them to make sure they were a good fit to bring on the show. I did stress the casualness of it. I said we want to highlight dating of course, like if you guys are a match, amazing. But like, you know, I think you could be a great match. You have same personalities but it's very casual. We want to see two singles and how like dates would go and like almost like blind dates and this and that. So I did stress the casualness of it. Tara had responded and said like, oh my God. Yeah, I'm like I'm low key. Like let's see how it goes. I won't even look. See what he looks like on social media. I sent her an audio message. I basically just said, you know, I talked to Kyle, he told me about the text to you and I of course want to get your thoughts. I want to get your perspective. I would love to have you back on the show. We are doing the final episode. Where are they now? Obviously. What Actually obvious. They might be together if who knows. We don't know. It's going to be a couple months from now for you guys. It'll be next week. I just wanted to see if she was. I said, are you open? I. I want to also hear what you thought about Kyle's, you know, text after the date. And she said, yeah, of course. I'm. I'd be more than happy to come on the show and. And say that. So next week, we'll get Tara's thoughts. I'm very proud of you for being honest. I think that's, like, hard to do. I think maybe it would have been easier for you if you just didn't click with her. Right. With Tara.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, so, so easy. This whole thing. It would have been much easier if this whole thing was, like, a dud and none of these girls, I was like, right, well, onwards, you know, But. But I will also say too, like, with respect to the person that I am seeing this going through this process also makes it even easier to continue to put my effort into her because it's proof that, like, even with these great options, I still choose this path.
Tara
Yeah. So we're going to pivot now since we will be catching up with you and Tara next week to the current girl you're seeing, because this is a dating podcast and you are dating her. You guys aren't official.
Kyle Lampe
No. Girlfriend.
Tara
Boy.
Kyle Lampe
We're not official. We've talked about it. We've talked about, like, hey, let's take our time and really vet this, because if we're gonna do this, let's do it. We're not just gonna jump into.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Something.
Tara
Are you able to tell us anything about her or no?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, I could tell you lots of.
Tara
Stuff about her that she's comfortable with you sharing.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, I would.
Tara
General.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. Okay. She's. She's very kind. Okay. Shockingly kind. Sometimes where I'm like, wow, you're like, a really good person.
Tara
Huge heart.
Kyle Lampe
Huge heart. She's. She just. She. She just is. She just exuberates. Joy. Yeah, she's very. She's very. Just bright. Like, if I did. If she was a color, she'd be yellow. She loves simple things in life. She laughs a lot. She laughs at some things that I can't believe that she thinks are funny, but they just kill her.
Tara
So she has a good sense of humor.
Kyle Lampe
Great sense of humor. Yeah. She's very witty. She's very smart.
Tara
How old is she?
Kyle Lampe
She's 33. Okay. She has her life. She has her life together. She knows what she wants out of life. We align on a lot of the same things.
Tara
Can you tell us her career or no?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, she teaches kindergarten through third grade.
Tara
Science teachers, man, they're the freaking backbone of society. Good teachers.
Kyle Lampe
She's really good with kids, which makes sense because she just has that like, just kind.
Tara
She.
Kyle Lampe
You know what it is? She's very motherly. Like, when you're around her, you're like, you're just such a nurturer, caregiver. She cares so much about others and their feelings. Like, like for instance, when we're. We went to like the Getty Museum, okay. And we're just enjoying the art. And a lot of the time I was watching her take in the art because I was just like, wow. She's just like, really here. She's like just wide eyed looking at it and being like, oh, look at that. Like, oh, isn't that so pretty? Like we're on this date. You're just so.
Tara
She has the innocent joy.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, it's. It's awesome. And then she, she brought snacks in case I got hungry. I'm like, that's like so.
Tara
That's so sweet.
Kyle Lampe
I know. I like on a second date, it's just, you know, I would never imagine.
Tara
You brought snacks.
Kyle Lampe
I know.
Tara
Every time. Anyway, keep going. So she brought snacks. She's obviously has a big heart and a caretaker. Is there any part of you that we've talked about this before so I can say it is nervous. Sometimes I think with men that it could be a dangerous area when they meet someone who cares for them and makes them feel loved a way. And don't take this the wrong way, but a way a mother could. And then it's almost like a confusion of like, oh, yes, I love this person. This is my partner. But you need that sexual element, that. Excuse me, that romantic element.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, are you saying like, do I see her like a mom figure?
Tara
Yeah, almost like, oh, she's a caretaker. So she's a great. She'll be a great wife and a great mom. But like you, I would. We've talked about this before. You also need that romantic attraction, spice element.
Kyle Lampe
The Madonna horror complex. Yeah, no, I see her like there is a romantic attraction there in a spice element that is surprising to me because she is so yellow and bright. But there is also a side to her that is like, like, whoa. I wouldn't expect that.
Tara
You know, a lady and a caretaker in the streets and a freak in the sheets, my friends. No, I won't say that about you.
Kyle Lampe
She is a. She is a lovely, respectable Woman.
Tara
Okay. Have you talked. You. You said you've talked about this show.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
What does she think about our relationship? What does she think about this? What does she think about the fact that I live across the street?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we've talked about that. I've. I. Because I spilled that all out. I was like, listen, she's. She's gonna be in my life. She's probably gonna be my life forever. As a matter of. Yeah, okay. As a matter of fact, like, we. We talked about this last night.
Tara
Oh, really?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, we had like, a really in depth conversation. We were kind of just like going. We were just like. I googled 2200 questions to ask someone, you know, like, all these funny questions, like, let's do this. Let's. Let's get to know each other. And one of them was like, what are you looking forward to? And I was talking about Hawaii and, like, all the stuff going on. And then I told her that you're not going to Hawaii anymore.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
And then that got into, like, that got into like, oh, how close we are. And like, you know, the, like, how, how someone could be so close in your life and then their. Their role changes, you know, and it doesn't mean that they're any different. And I basically just gave her the scenario. I was like, put it this way. If there. If we got a message that nuclear warheads were coming to us right now, I'm going to grab her, I'm gonna grab my dog, and I'm gonna take you, and we're gonna get in a car and we're gonna go. Because Jessica, to me is family. Like, I've known you for eight years, and I've, you know, I've loved you in a romantic way, and now I love you in a family way, and that's you. So you don't. You can't shut that off. Like, you know, like, are you ever going to. Are you ever going to not love your brothers? Now, I know you don't have sex with your brothers.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
But that, that feeling of closeness, like, like you're never going to leave them behind. They're always going to be an option.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
And I, And I told her that I was like, Jessica is going to be a part of my life for us. My life. And she was like, you know, I. She's like, I think that's. That's actually really great. I don't, you know, she was like, I just don't understand how you can just shut that off. And I'm like, I'm really not shutting it off. It's just morphed into a different. It's a different type of love. It's not a romantic love. It's a like, brotherly, sisterly. Like, I know this person deeply and then it's. And it's important to me. It's just like family. Yeah, she gets it.
Tara
Yeah, she does. And we, like, grew together. We met at, like, I was 24 when I met you. You were 30. 31.
Kyle Lampe
31.
Tara
Yeah. And like, my. We sort of. I think you've always stayed constant. My. I've just, like, grown and my perspectives and my maturity and everything has, like, changed so much. And I think that, like you said, she asked you. I don't know how you could shut that off. Meaning, like the whatever the sexual or.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
And like you said, I love that you said that because I've said that to people too. Or like, you're hooking up your ex fiance. Like, there's something weird there. Like, what is the deal? And it's not shutting anything off. It's really. Like you said, it's sort of moving it or evolving it into a different type of love. And I think you. You said this to me once. You're like. And I agree with you, I think that's like a very true, real form of love.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
I just want, like, when I. I know you so deeply and you know me deeply, and I just, like, truly want you to be happy. Which is why when you found. When we've talked about this person you're with, I'm like, there's no world in which I ever even risk you. If this is possibly the one. You losing this person because of a freaking podcast show. Like, no, do I want. No, you can't have a girlfriend. You, like, treat it the right way. But, like, I just want you to be happy. I want you to get everything you want in life. I want you to succeed. And I want to, like, know you forever. I want to know. I want to be there. Like Margo, she was like, you had her for like, two months when we met, and I was with her for all those years. Kyle's dog and who. I consider her my dog as well, my dog. And like, I don't want to. You know, dogs get old and they pass away. And the thought of me not being there for that is, like, horrific. And I. I know that relationships go in marriages. Can you imagine, like, go through this all the time. Married for 20, 30 years and you have kids together and then you divorce.
Kyle Lampe
Like, and what that person just is not out.
Tara
Well, sometimes trauma. Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
But if. They're terrible people.
Tara
But, like, your parents are a good example.
Kyle Lampe
They're great friends.
Tara
They're great friends. Kyle's parents. And I don't want to say too much, but, like, his mom and dad divor. Do you, like, mind sharing some of it or. No.
Kyle Lampe
They got divorced, and I was 22.
Tara
How long were they together for?
Kyle Lampe
Since I was one and a half.
Tara
Okay. They got divorced when you're 22 for a little bit. It was contentious. Is that the word? Contentious?
Kyle Lampe
Yeah, I think. I think they kind of did the whole thing where they. They. They played house until I left home. When I left home when I was, like, 19. Yeah. And that's kind of when it ended, which I understand why a parent would do that, but I don't know if it's, like, the best. Like, I wouldn't have cared, you know?
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. But they're total friends now. They don't hate each other.
Tara
Like, if I would, I was.
Kyle Lampe
We spent holidays together. Yeah.
Tara
We went camping. Like, we. We've spent holidays together, me and Kyle and his mom and dad had spent Thanksgiving together at. In Nashville. We all went camping together. His dad is like a father figure to your younger siblings, whose. Kyle's mom had gotten remarried and had three young ones. Kyle's three half siblings. And your dad is like a father figure to them.
Kyle Lampe
And maybe that's why it's easy for me. Cause I have had that template. I've seen that, like, oh, people can be cool, you know? And I don't understand why people have such a hard time with this. Like, people I told that I was doing this podcast, they have this, like, ooh, yeah, it's crazy you guys are doing that. Why are you dipping your toe back in there? And I'm just like, maybe it's because all of their relationships ended poorly. I don't know.
Tara
Ended poorly.
Kyle Lampe
Or I think maybe we're just crazy.
Tara
Maybe. I know. We fast forward next episode. We're not speaking. She's dead to me two months later. No, but it's. It makes sense. And I will say, Kyle, when I met you and I talked to Kyle, he had dated someone for four years.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
And they. They stopped talking. And I kind of asked him. I was like, I get it, but that's strange. And you said to me, when I break up with an ex, we. I. I don't talk to you anymore.
Kyle Lampe
It's over. Yeah. Because. Well, and not out of spite. It's just like, I kind of move on with my life.
Tara
So it's different.
Kyle Lampe
But you know what's crazy? I think maybe this was the first time in my life that I've actually opened myself up to tr what true love is for a person. Like, I'm not. Like, I'm always going to love you and I'm always gonna want you to be happy and do well, and I want to know you until I'm dead. But I don't want to be married to you. I don't love you like that. I love you like you would just like a. A family member. You know what I mean?
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Kyle Lampe
And I think the right girl, the girl that I'm gonna be with is gonna have to understand that or I can't be with you because I'm not gonna. You weren't there. So why would I change? Why would I change who I am and what I want for my life? For a person that I have now allowing to be in my life? I don't need to change my previous history or rules or, you know, and some people give me for still having our pictures up on my Instagram. I'm like, I'm like, so you're telling me that eight years of us traveling the world and all of these cool experiences, which the only reason I have pictures up is because you always wanted to take pictures. I'm not a picture taker. So I'm like, well, I'm not going to have pictures of my time in Greece or Rome. If I don't have them with Jessica because we only took pictures together, I don't have me. I'm not a selfie guy. So it's like, oh, so you're saying, oh, you met me, you like me. You want to come into my life, but I've got to erase my past, like, get the fuck out of here. That's so crazy. I would never expect someone else to do that. That's my past and photos with me. Yeah. And if you're going to. You're. If you're going to accept me and want to be with me. What you don't realize is that person helps shape the person I am right now in front of you. And you should, like, honor that. Just like I'm honoring all the people that you knew that shaped you, who you are in front of me, all the traumas and the things that you've gone through and the things that you've had to overcome. So to ask someone to take that down or, like, completely negate that you're actually, like, that's like, crazy. That's crazy.
Tara
It's like asking them to sort of ignore or who they are part of themselves. Yeah. Like you said, there are so many. I've grown, like, every part of me you've played a part in. Like, me at 24 was not me today.
Kyle Lampe
No.
Tara
And you're. When I, like, a year or two or even three into being with you, you said something to me that your ex girlfriend said to you when you guys broke up, and it was, like, so beautiful and heartbreaking. And what did she say about. So you broke up with her and.
Kyle Lampe
She said something to you, and she was so right. She was so spot on. She said, it just really hurts me to know that the next girl that gets to love you gets to love the version that I helped create. Like, she doesn't know how lucky she is because she gets to. She doesn't have to deal with all the things I dealt with, which makes it sound bad, but, like. Yeah. And then this is the exact same. Like, the girl that I'm seeing gets to get the reason why I can communicate with her so well, and the reason why I can see the pitfalls in a relationship or the things that you shouldn't say or the things you should say or the things you should do more of are because I. I have made mistakes or I have done the right thing and I've learned from that. Like, it's every. You helped for eight years mold me into, like, how I present myself to her. And guess what? I don't know how long we'd be together, but whatever I'm learning from her is either going to stick and, like, I'm going to die with her, or I'm going to take things from her and she's going to take things from me, and that's going to help who I'm going to be the next person in my life. That's just how it goes.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
And it's just wild to me that people, like, expect you to just did erase your past for them.
Tara
Yeah. And I also understand it. I understand people. I have none of my siblings talk to their exes. My parents don't. My parents have been together since they were, like, 16, 17. But I understand it especially. We don't even. This. This goes unsaid, but I'll say it anyway. If it ended because of trauma or because of. Of. If it ended on bad terms, of course I understand that. But I think there are. We've gotten dms, which is another reason to. That made me be like. Even though I've been thinking about the show for a while, to start it up is, like, when I talked about our separation on the previous podcast I was on, so many people were like, oh, my God. I just really love and appreciate the amount of respect you have for him. And it sounds like you have for each other when you're not together. And like, that, I think, could be normalized more. If you want that. If you don't want that, fine. But if there's this weird world where some of my friends don't hate their ex, but they just are like, well, that's my ex. I'm not gonna talk to them. Or there's a weirdness about them with a new person.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
And I understand it. It's just to each his own, I guess.
Kyle Lampe
And what if the whole point of this entire podcast was to give people a perspective and maybe let them open the door to someone that they really do miss in their life and they wish was there. And if maybe they have a conversation, it would be fine. Yeah.
Tara
And reach out to them if you're feeling that way, or you have an ex, you're like, damn, that person was so amazing in my life. And no, I don't want to rekindle anything romantically. And of course, respect your current partners. And if you have to have a conversation with your current partners. But, like, maybe you do go, I want to reach back out to that person. And I'll make it clear, hey, this isn't anything weird or romantic. I Just, like, really respect you as a person and I see what you're doing, and I. I just want to get back in touch because life is short. And I always say, like, be around the people you care about. Surround yourself with the people that mean something to you. It doesn't have to. They don't have to play specific roles that they used to play.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Jessica Walter
And.
Kyle Lampe
Or even to add on top of that. Or end a relationship that you've wanted to end but you've been scared to because you don't want to lose that person. You don't have to lose that person.
Tara
Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Go be happy. You're actually hurting each other more staying in a relationship because you don't want to lose each other, but you don't have to.
Tara
You don't have to exactly talk about it. Yeah.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
That's so true.
Kyle Lampe
I still can't stand you, though.
Tara
Yeah. I don't like you very much either.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah.
Tara
But let me ask, because you said this before we wrap it up. You said in this episode, whatever. A few minutes ago, you were like, I, but I don't want to marry you. You said that to me. Now I've been clear about. I ended our engagement. You were, like, in it to win it. Do you look back now, seven months later? Are you thankful I ended it? Is there things you kind of saw that you now have clarity of like, oh, I'm very thankful she ended it. Or is it like, you kind of have to be that way? So you are.
Kyle Lampe
I think the way I'm looking at it is kind of how I look at everything in life. I'm just thankful to. This is going to sound so, like, such a cop out, but it's so true.
Tara
What?
Kyle Lampe
I'm not thankful. I'm not thankful for outcomes. I'm not thankful for how anything turns out. I'm just thankful to, like, experience life. So, like, would I. Would I have been thankful if we got married? Sure. Would I have been? Am I thankful that this happened the way it is? Yeah. Because I'm like. I'm, like, living my life. I'm just experiencing life how it comes, and I'm trying to do my best. I'm trying to be the best person I can and, like, go for the things I want in life, and I'm just grateful for whatever comes my way. So I can't even answer that.
Tara
Okay.
Kyle Lampe
I'm not. I'm not thankful or thankful for it. I'm just trying to, like, live right now in this moment and not.
Tara
Yeah, I like that. I like that. I think that's beautiful. Living just in the moment.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. I will be starting a cult. So if you guys would like to join.
Tara
I will be joining.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to wear linens. And we're love a good linen.
Tara
Well, great. So proud of you.
Kyle Lampe
Thanks, Mom.
Tara
I'm very, very excited for next week's episode.
Kyle Lampe
I am, too.
Tara
Very excited. Because, like, where are we? In a couple months from now, it'll be a week for you guys. But, like, how are we feeling? I may move. I don't know. The thought of moving or I may not.
Kyle Lampe
You could be dead.
Tara
Kyle, please. What if I am not?
Kyle Lampe
Then I'll take over the podcast.
Tara
If I'm not here anymore, we're gonna cut that clip, play it at the funeral, and then everyone's gonna blame you for manifesting that.
Kyle Lampe
Okay, well, you know what I'm gonna say?
Tara
What?
Kyle Lampe
It's not real. Everyone relax.
Tara
But we'll get into that too, next episode. Because I'm thinking, like, not moving. Sorry? When I say moving, I just mean, like, away from across the street from Kyle. Like, further. And the thought of that terrifies me because the past seven, eight years, like, yes, we're separated, but we also live across the street from each other. If I really needed to, I could run across the street. I could see Kyle, I could see Margo. Anyway, who knows? In a couple months, will I be getting on this mic and be like, yeah, I didn't move. I'm too scared. And we'll talk about that. But next episode, gonna have Tara back. Hopefully in a few months or a couple months, she still wants to be back on the show. We're gonna talk about her perspective, how she's doing, what she's up to, talk to you. Maybe by then, if you're still with your. The current girl, maybe she's on the show, maybe she's not. We'll see.
Kyle Lampe
We'll see what she's comfortable with. Yeah.
Tara
Yeah. Oh, you know it's gonna be hard.
Kyle Lampe
Or she could hear this and be like, wow, I don't want to be with you anymore.
Tara
No, that's not true. You know what's going to be hard?
Kyle Lampe
What?
Tara
You know what this means.
Cindy Crawford
What?
Tara
For the next couple months, if you are still with her, you can't really post to socials. Is she fine with that, you think? Like, with her.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, okay, cool. So guess how many posts she has on her Instagram.
Tara
How many?
Kyle Lampe
Zero. Guess how many times I post.
Tara
How many? Never.
Kyle Lampe
I don't give a. Oh, she doesn't have An Instagram.
Tara
Or she just has one that's like to creep, not to creep.
Kyle Lampe
I literally like, like, social media is not a real.
Tara
Okay. No, that's a big deal though. Like for people. For a lot of people.
Kyle Lampe
Yeah. And I would say go outside more to those people.
Tara
I don't know, I'm kind of one of them because I like, go outside more. Okay, well, I like. A lot of life is online nowadays and I do.
Kyle Lampe
But that's only a few. It's only a few.
Tara
Right, but it's just a different form of communication nowadays, Kyle.
Kyle Lampe
Sure. Well, to all the people that are going to be sad that I'm not going to do like a. Whatever the kids call it a day. A soft launch. Hard launch.
Tara
Hard launch. Yeah, you always want it hard. You don't want it soft.
Kyle Lampe
The half mast launch. Just go read a book.
Tara
I don't think you should read a book. I think you should be very upset. So agree to disagree.
Kyle Lampe
I'm gonna live my life.
Tara
No, don't be upset, actually, because I don't want him to spoil this. So if you're looking at Kyle's socials right now and being like, oh, he's not with her because there's no post, well, now you know.
Kyle Lampe
And if I do post, I will cover her.
Tara
Well, now we're still gonna know.
Kyle Lampe
No, you won't, cuz I'll black her out.
Tara
Well, now we're gonna know.
Kyle Lampe
Know what?
Tara
Cuz if there's a girl you post with and she's covered out, then we're gonna say, oh, that's the girl.
Kyle Lampe
Oh, but what if it's Tara? What if Tara and I have a. Oh, what if it's a whole new girl?
Tara
A whole new girl? A whole new girl. Okay, we gotta go. Thank you all for tuning in and going on this journey with us. What a journey of exploration and dating and fun. Hope. Hopefully this helped you. And we'll see you all next week for the final season one episode of the Date My podcast. Farewell, Farewell.
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Podcast Summary: The Date My Podcast - Episode 9: Overview + Uh Oh
In Episode 9 of "The Date My Podcast," titled "Overview + Uh Oh," host Jessica Walter reunites with her ex-fiancé, Kyle Lampe, to explore the complexities of their past relationship and the intricate dynamics of modern dating. Released on March 4, 2025, this episode serves as a pivotal moment in Season One, blending personal revelations with insightful discussions on love, commitment, and personal growth.
The episode begins with a light-hearted exchange between Jessica and Kyle, setting a casual tone despite their shared history. Jessica humorously reflects on their previous interactions, saying, "I participate in restaurants for a limited time" ([01:06]), hinting at the transient nature of their past engagement.
As the conversation deepens, Jessica announces a significant revelation: the possibility of rekindling their relationship. She shares, “Now we're getting back together. No, we're not getting...” ([02:15]), clarifying misconceptions and addressing public expectations. Kyle responds thoughtfully, emphasizing the need for professional guidance to navigate their feelings: “I think we need to seek some professional help” ([03:35]).
A substantial portion of the episode delves into Kyle's recent dating experiences, particularly his interactions with a new woman he met on Hinge. Kyle candidly discusses the challenges of balancing multiple relationships, stating, “Out of all the dates I've been on, this one felt like the most, like, instant connection and comfortability” ([05:18]). He highlights the rarity of finding such a profound connection and the internal conflict it creates when faced with choosing between his past with Jessica and a new potential partner.
Jessica and Tara engage in a dialogue about Kyle's approach to dating multiple individuals simultaneously. Tara questions the ethics and emotional impact of Kyle's actions, while Kyle defends his transparency: “In being very communicative, when I'm with the girl I'm dating, I'm communicating with her. I'm with her. I'm not with my phone” ([27:23]).
Tara plays a pivotal role in this episode, offering her perspective on Kyle's communication habits post-date. She expresses concerns about delayed responses and the potential for misunderstanding, saying, “If I were on a date and I said that to a guy, I... I'm opening it up to be like, okay, you can...” ([08:50]). Tara emphasizes the importance of timely communication in building trust and maintaining interest, suggesting that delays might be perceived as disinterest or playing games.
Kyle acknowledges Tara's points, explaining his commitment to being present in his interactions: “When I'm with the girl I'm dating, I'm communicating with her. I'm with her. I'm not with my phone” ([27:23]). This highlights the balance Kyle strives to maintain between multiple relationships while respecting each individual's time and feelings.
The episode takes a reflective turn as both Jessica and Tara discuss the lingering effects of past relationships on present behavior. Kyle shares insights into his evolving relationship with Jessica, describing it as a transformation from romantic love to a familial bond: “Jessica is going to be a part of my life for us. My life” ([37:29]). This evolution underscores the complexity of transitioning from a romantic relationship to a platonic friendship without losing the emotional depth both parties share.
Tara adds her thoughts on maintaining connections with ex-partners, advocating for mutual respect and continued support rather than complete severance: “Surround yourself with the people that mean something to you. It doesn't have to... They don't have to play specific roles that they used to play” ([49:00]). This perspective encourages listeners to value enduring friendships even after romantic relationships end.
As the episode draws to a close, Jessica and Kyle hint at upcoming developments and tease the content of the final episodes. They discuss the possibility of featuring Kyle's new girlfriend and the anticipated catch-up sessions to provide listeners with updates on their personal lives. The playful banter between them, such as Kyle's joke about starting a cult, adds a light-hearted touch to the otherwise serious discussions.
Tara emphasizes the importance of authenticity and transparency in dating, aligning with the podcast's overarching theme of genuine human connection: “I just want to have... I just want to be there” ([47:09]). This reinforces the show's intent to provide honest, relatable content for its audience.
Jessica Walter: "I was by myself in my apartment laughing out loud, like going like, aww." ([01:02])
Kyle Lampe: "Out of all the dates I've been on, this one felt like the most, like, instant connection and comfortability." ([05:18])
Tara: "Surround yourself with the people that mean something to you. It doesn't have to... They don't have to play specific roles that they used to play." ([49:00])
Kyle Lampe: "When I'm with the girl I'm dating, I'm communicating with her. I'm with her. I'm not with my phone." ([27:23])
Episode 9 of "The Date My Podcast" masterfully intertwines personal anecdotes with broader discussions on love, commitment, and the intricacies of modern relationships. By revisiting their past and confronting current dilemmas, Jessica and Kyle offer listeners an authentic glimpse into the challenges of balancing old bonds with new beginnings. Tara's involvement adds depth to the conversation, highlighting the importance of communication and mutual respect in navigating complex romantic landscapes. As the season approaches its finale, this episode leaves audiences eagerly anticipating the resolutions and insights that lie ahead.