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Mackenzie
Hey, guys, it's Mackenzie and Hannah. And if you're enjoying the Dating Detectives, which I know you are, because how could you not? We've got something you need to check out. It's the brand new crime house original series Clues, hosted by Morgan Absher and Kalyn Moore. And if their names sound familiar to you, that's because Morgan hosts the podcast Two Hot Takes, and Kaylin hosts the podcast Heart Starts Pounding. And they're coming together to host this new series called Clues.
Hannah
So this is not an episode from us. We just wanted to drop in and tell you about it because we thought you would really like it. And a little about the episode before you hear a trailer and mechanic said I had to do this. Yeah, you said I had to do this in like a. A movie trailer voice.
Morgan Absher
So do it, do it, do it.
Hannah
Here we go. Every Wednesday, Morgan and Kin take you deep into the world of the most notorious crimes ever, where a single clue can crack a case wide open. From shocking murders to high stakes trials, Clues unpacks the forensic evidence and obsessive sleuthing. We love sleuthing. Sleuthing behind the investigations that still have people talking to this very day. Is that. I don't know.
Mackenzie
Oh, my gosh, Hannah, that was so good. So Kaylin is your true crime expert breaking down the cold, hard facts of these cases. And Morgan is your Internet detective, going into full Reddit mode to uncover the theories of it.
Hannah
So this is basically us if we were investigating, like, true crime stories.
Kaylin Moore
Yes.
Mackenzie
So whether you're obsessed with the details deep into the Internet theories or love a good forensic twist, you have to check out clues. Check out this clip from their very first episode.
Morgan Absher
Hi, there. I'm Morgan Abshur.
Kaylin Moore
And I'm Kayla Moore. Between Morgan's show two Hot takes and my show heart Starts pounding, we've spent years dissecting the Internet's craziest stories and the world's most chilling true crime cases.
Morgan Absher
And now we're teaming up on Clues, a crime house original show powered by Pave Studios. Every Wednesday on Clues, we'll break down the small but crucial details that cracked open some of the most infamous cases. I'll be your Internet sleuth, pulling out the threads that don't add up or maybe do and digging into the unanswered questions that still linger.
Kaylin Moore
And I'll be piecing together the timelines, analyzing the forensic science, and tracking the hard evidence that changed everything.
Morgan Absher
We're talking about the hair fiber that sealed a conviction, a footprint that blew open an alibi. And the case that took decades to solve until somebody finally connected the dots.
Kaylin Moore
And some clues are obvious, but some are hidden in plain sight. And sometimes they lead to places and convictions that no one ever expected.
Morgan Absher
So if you're like us and can't stop combing through case files and crime documentaries, this is the show for you.
Kaylin Moore
Tune in every week for clues where even the littlest details matter. And sometimes the truth is stranger than fiction.
Morgan Absher
Today we are opening up the case file for the murder of Lacey Peterson. I want to get into a few more of these clues, but can you give us a little bit more background on Scott's boat first?
Kaylin Moore
Yes. It's important to know a little bit more about this boat, actually. So Scott bought it on December 9, 2002, about two weeks prior to Lacy's disappearance. And if you've been paying attention to the timeline here, December 9th is also when he told Amber Fry, his mistress, that he had a wife who had passed away previously. Just so we're all on the same page with that, he also bought this boat in cash, which when you also add in the fact that he was keeping it in a warehouse away from his family, no one knew about this boat. There's no paper trail leading him to this boat. Feels pretty secretive. According to Scott, I. December 24, the day Lacy went missing. That was the first time he had ever taken this boat out. In general, even though he had bought it on December 9, he had never taken it out before. But he thought that the day Lacy went missing also was, like, the perfect time to take it out.
Morgan Absher
Christmas Eve. Why not?
Kaylin Moore
Yeah, right. Five hours round trip. Can't get over that. Scott himself even said that Lacy had never been on this boat before. But one of the biggest clues in this case was found on the boat.
Morgan Absher
Which brings us to our second clue, which is two dark strands of hair that were found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat. Initially, it was reported that only one strand of hair was found, but months later, it came out that there was actually a second strand of hair that was found in the evidence envelope.
Kaylin Moore
And eventually, the prosecution for this case argued that because Lacey's hair was found on the boat, it meant that she had been on the boat, if not when she was alive, then when she was dead. Because hair wasn't just found on clothing. It wasn't just found strewn about in the boat. Like maybe it had gotten on Scott's shirt and fell off whatever. It was. Wrapped up in pliers. Yeah, it's a very strange spot for the hair to be.
Morgan Absher
I mean, it would seemingly have to be kind of intentional for it to get caught. I shed everywhere. Like, if you went and looked in my car right now, I there, there'd be blonde hairs everywhere. But it was the fact that they were wrapped up in those pliers. And it's not odd for someone to have pliers on a boat, especially when fishing. You know, you could use them to take a fish off of your hook or cut a line that got tangled or whatever. It's not that. It's the fact that by his own admission, Scott said Lacy had never been on the boat.
Kaylin Moore
Right. And again, too, it makes me think about how maybe there was a chance that he hugged her goodbye in the morning, hair got on his shirt, it got onto the boat. But we're never going to know that because Scott washed his clothes the second he got home. So all of that evidence is gone now.
Morgan Absher
Make sure to tune in to Clues every week and discover the details with us wherever you get your podcasts.
Kaylin Moore
If you want to take a peek into our case files, make sure you're following us on socials Rimehouse and Clues podcast on Instagram.
Hannah
Thank you for listening to Check out the rest of this episode and so much more. Make sure to follow Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaylin Moore. Just search for Clues wherever you get your podcasts and new episodes drop every Wednesday.
The Dating Detectives – Episode: Introducing Clues with Morgan Absher & Kaelyn Moore Release Date: May 19, 2025
In this special episode of The Dating Detectives, hosts Mackenzie Fultz and Hanna Anderson step away from their usual investigations into the deceitful tactics of the dating world to spotlight an exciting new venture in true crime storytelling. They introduce listeners to Clues, a Crime House original series hosted by Morgan Absher and Kaylyn Moore, promising a deep dive into some of the most baffling and notorious criminal cases.
Mackenzie and Hanna kick off the episode with enthusiasm, highlighting the credentials of the new hosts:
Mackenzie (00:11): "So Kaylin is your true crime expert breaking down the cold, hard facts of these cases. And Morgan is your Internet detective, going into full Reddit mode to uncover the theories of it."
Hanna (00:25): "So this is basically us if we were investigating, like, true crime stories."
This sets the stage for what listeners can expect from Clues—a blend of forensic analysis and internet-driven detective work.
The episode features a promotional trailer for Clues, wherein both Morgan and Kaylyn provide insights into their collaboration:
Morgan Absher (01:43): "Hi, there. I'm Morgan Absher."
Kaylyn Moore (01:44): "And I'm Kayla Moore. Between Morgan's show Two Hot Takes and my show Heart Starts Pounding, we've spent years dissecting the Internet's craziest stories and the world's most chilling true crime cases."
They emphasize their combined expertise, promising a thorough examination of criminal cases with a focus on uncovering minute details that often lead to breakthroughs.
Morgan and Kaylyn outline the structure and unique approach of their series:
Morgan Absher (01:55): "And now we're teaming up on Clues, a Crime House original show powered by Pave Studios. Every Wednesday on Clues, we'll break down the small but crucial details that cracked open some of the most infamous cases."
Kaylyn Moore (02:16): "And I'll be piecing together the timelines, analyzing the forensic science, and tracking the hard evidence that changed everything."
This collaborative approach ensures that both the analytical and investigative aspects of true crime are thoroughly explored, appealing to a wide range of true crime enthusiasts.
The trailer segues into a sneak peek of their inaugural episode, focusing on the perplexing case of Lacey Peterson:
Morgan Absher (02:54): "Today we are opening up the case file for the murder of Lacey Peterson. I want to get into a few more of these clues, but can you give us a little bit more background on Scott's boat first?"
Background Information: Kaylyn delves into the suspicious activities surrounding Scott, the individual connected to Lacey's disappearance:
Kaylyn Moore (03:03): "Scott bought it on December 9, 2002, about two weeks prior to Lacey's disappearance. December 9th is also when he told Amber Fry, his mistress, that he had a wife who had passed away previously. He bought this boat in cash and kept it in a warehouse away from his family, leaving no paper trail."
This timeline establishes Scott's questionable behavior and the secretive acquisition of the boat, raising red flags about his involvement.
Key Evidence: The discussion highlights pivotal evidence that ties Scott to the case:
Morgan Absher (04:09): "Which brings us to our second clue, which is two dark strands of hair that were found in a pair of pliers on Scott's boat."
Kaylyn Moore (04:25): "The prosecution argued that because Lacey's hair was found on the boat, it meant that she had been on the boat, if not when she was alive, then when she was dead. It was wrapped up in pliers, a very strange spot for the hair to be."
The placement of Lacey's hair in pliers suggests a deliberate attempt to implicate or at least associate her with the boat, where Scott was present.
Analyzing the Evidence: Morgan and Kaylyn dissect the significance of the hair evidence:
Morgan Absher (04:52): "It would seemingly have to be kind of intentional for it to get caught. I shed everywhere. Like, if you went and looked in my car right now, I'd have blonde hairs everywhere. But the fact that they were wrapped up in those pliers makes it different."
Kaylyn Moore (05:23): "Scott washed his clothes the second he got home. So all of that evidence is gone now."
This analysis underscores the suspicious nature of the evidence placement and Scott's attempts to eliminate any potential incriminating traces.
Wrapping up the episode, Mackenzie and Hanna reiterate their enthusiasm for Clues and encourage listeners to tune in:
Mackenzie (01:11): "So Kaylin is your true crime expert breaking down the cold, hard facts of these cases. And Morgan is your Internet detective, going into full Reddit mode to uncover the theories of it."
Hanna (05:58): "Thank you for listening. Check out the rest of this episode and so much more. Make sure to follow Clues with Morgan Absher and Kaylin Moore. Just search for Clues wherever you get your podcasts and new episodes drop every Wednesday."
Listeners of The Dating Detectives are encouraged to explore Clues for a riveting exploration of true crime, expanding their investigative horizons beyond the realm of dating deception.