The Dog Show Dogfish: Part 2 - The Dating Detectives

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Good morning, Dating Detectives. It's Dating Detectives Monday.

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We are back.

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Happy holiday.

A (0:46)

Happy holidays.

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It's a weekly holiday here at the Dating Detectives.

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Yeah. And we left you on a cliffhanger last week, so we really do have to get back into it because Jessica.

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Our guest, she just found out that this fella has a two million dollar lawsuit hanging over him.

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Yeah.

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And when you hear how he responds right now, I mean, you guys like remove all valuables from around you because you will want to throw them at the wall.

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You are going to want to mash everything.

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Seriously, I was in shock. Okay. But is there anything else? I want to like, do a little recap just in case people need more of a refresh. That was the big last thing, but basically she met this guy via the dog show circuit. His name is Dylan and he love bombed pretty classic love bombing. Kind of made sure he targeted her in a period where she was really vulnerable. Her dad was dying and then died in the process of her being in courted. And it was really all left to her, like the estate management, everything. And then she talked about people. Maybe she says this in part two, but it's okay. It's not a crazy spoiler, but people were like showing up at her house saying her dad had owned them money and she didn't even know anything about it. And it was just like a weird, vulnerable, difficult time. So it makes sense that I think he saw that as an opportunity, unfortunately.

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Summary

The Dating Detectives – The Dog Show Dogfish: Part 2 (Nov 17, 2025)

Episode Overview

In this gripping continuation, private investigator Mackenzie Fultz and comedian Hanna Anderson return with guest "Jessica," who recounts the harrowing aftermath of marrying a manipulative conman she met in the dog show circuit. The discussion dives deeply into emotional, financial, and digital abuse—including love bombing, property fraud, revenge porn, and the challenges of seeking justice. The hosts and Jessica dissect manipulative red flags, the impact on trust and community, and the hard-won journey toward self-healing.

Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Recap and Trigger Warnings

The episode resumes from last week’s cliffhanger: Jessica has just discovered her husband Dylan is embroiled in a $2 million lawsuit.
- "[00:52] ...she just found out that this fella has a two million dollar lawsuit hanging over him..."
Trigger warnings for animal-related sadness, revenge porn, and various forms of abuse.
- [02:58] "Just reminder that we are going to talk about animal stuff... and then revenge porn and some definite abuse in that arena."

2. Discovery of the Lawsuit & Dylan’s Evasive Behavior

Jessica describes fear and paralysis upon learning about Dylan's legal complications and wondering if her assets and her late father’s estate are at risk.
- "I'm in big trouble. And I'm wondering, am I going to lose everything that my dad worked for that he tried to leave for me?" ([04:25])
Dylan minimizes and brushes off confrontation about the lawsuit, refusing to explain except in person.
- “‘I'm your husband, I'm coming back home.’ ...He's real flipping about it. ...‘It's probably just some mistake.’ ...He just minimized everything.” ([05:00])

3. Escalating Abuse: Animal Cruelty & Property Destruction ([10:00])

Dylan reacts to Jessica’s questions with shocking acts: he dumps her deceased dog's ashes into the toilet and destroys new undergarments she bought.
- "I look just to the left, and the toilet is open. And here are the majority of the remains of my dog he dumped into my toilet...every single one [bra], he had cut right up the middle." ([10:00-11:00])
- Reaction from hosts: “That’s psychotic.” ([10:26])

4. Manipulation, Isolation, and Gaslighting

Jessica describes how Dylan’s emotional whiplash (apologies, then anger, then love-bombing, then stonewalling) conditions her responses—mirroring dog training techniques.
- “When you do what the right thing, you get positive reinforcement ... This is more of an aversion. When you do the wrong thing, you get the shock collar.” ([12:38])
She tries to create space; Dylan shows up with a 30-foot camper as an “apology.” ([14:51])
During marriage counseling, he performs for the counselor and dodges accountability regarding the lawsuit and destructive behaviors.
- "He completely bullshits her, too..." ([18:42])
- Counselor downplays the ashes incident: “Oh, well, that was a really poor decision.” ([19:51])

5. Steps Toward Empowerment and Escape

Jessica starts gathering evidence, rallies her lawyer, and carefully plans his service with divorce papers—fearful of escalation.
- "I would rather pay a process server to sit there and watch..." ([29:54])
Dylan’s continued possession of assets purchased with Jessica’s inheritance becomes a key legal and emotional battleground.
- "I transferred $40,000 to him but I can pull up my online banking... for the truck, but I still don't have a title..." ([28:10])

6. Ongoing Stalking, Digital Abuse, and Revenge Porn ([54:22-58:45])

After serving divorce papers, Jessica becomes the target of revenge porn: topless photos (she didn’t know existed) posted online with her contact info, leading to a flood of harassing messages.
- "He put topless photos of me on Craigslist with my actual phone number, my actual email." ([54:22])
- "I had no idea he took the pictures. I had no idea he had the pictures." ([57:00])
Police response is limited; even after flagging and removing ads, authorities see little recourse.
- "I think they were sympathetic, but I don't think that they thought it was super serious." ([58:02])
He hacks her Facebook, stalks her connections, and continues to manipulate from afar.

7. Financial Abuse & Legal Battles Post-Divorce

Dylan continues to withhold the truck title, manipulates payments, and uses Jessica’s funds to finance multiple vehicles and a trailer.
- “He had used that $40,000 to put a down payment on my truck... truck that he had purchased and ...on that 30 foot travel trailer...” ([63:57])
Jessica endures repossession scares and pursues judgment in court, domestication of the judgment in another state, and careful research into his bankruptcy manipulations.

8. Uncovering Dylan’s Wider Pattern of Fraud

Jessica’s investigative work reveals Dylan’s ongoing bankruptcy fraud, property transfers to avoid creditors, and history of real estate fraud.
- “I was able to pull up the records for the LLC... found that he had signed a quitclaim deed...to the LLC.” ([70:33])
- “What I later found out was they were falsifying documents...using those falsified deeds to get loans to purchase other property.” ([71:09])
Her tip-off to the bankruptcy trustee leads to seizure of Dylan’s property and partial financial restitution for herself. ([73:19])
- “They sent me a check...around 16,000.” ([73:22])

9. Pattern of Abuse with Other Women

Dylan remarries repeatedly; Jessica connects with past and future wives, offering support and seeing similar patterns, including revenge porn and physical abuse.
- “His first wife actually contacted me...she had to file bankruptcy....He got married a fourth time...” ([74:30-76:54])

10. Rebuilding, Healing and Empowerment

Jessica details moving to a new state (using a UPS mailbox for protection), reentering the dog show world despite shame, and embracing “blissful singledom.”
- “Moving was a really big part of that...I moved 600 miles away from anybody I knew.” ([81:22])
- “I am blissfully single.” ([81:10])
Hosts and Jessica discuss supporting friends, overcoming shame, and the enduring value of community.
- Jessica: “You need to give yourself the same grace that you would give your best friend.” ([83:01])
She now trusts her instincts and immediately spots red flags: “I now trust my femtuition.” ([86:23])

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

On gaslighting and control:
“That's what he was doing, was training me not to ever question him...when you do the wrong thing, you get the shock collar.” (Jessica, [12:38])
Describing revenge porn:
“He put topless photos of me on Craigslist with my actual phone number, my actual email.” (Jessica, [54:22])
On the counselor's response:
“Oh, well, that was a really poor decision. And you're probably gonna have to make it up to her.” (Jessica, quoting marriage counselor, [19:51])
On escaping and moving forward:
“After I got the check, I thought, okay, now I can let this go. And I took it outside and set it on fire.” (Jessica, [78:54])
On self-compassion:
“You need to give yourself the same grace that you would give your best friend.” (Jessica, [83:01])
On belonging and shame:
"I felt so stupid that here I had married this guy that I barely knew right after my dad died...so like, want to go to another dog show...I'm just like, everybody there is going to be pointing and whispering and talking about me..." ([60:21])
Practical words about red flags:
“If it doesn't make sense, it isn't so. Period.” (Host, [86:32])

Timestamps for Key Segments

[00:52] - Recap/Trigger warnings
[04:25] - Jessica’s perspective on the lawsuit discovery
[10:00] - Animal cruelty and property destruction
[12:38] - Conditioning and emotional manipulation
[14:51] - Camper trailer apology and marriage counseling facade
[28:10] - Legal action and tracking Dylan for service
[54:22] - Revenge porn and law enforcement's response
[63:57] - Truck title, payments, and repossession saga
[70:33] - Uncovering property fraud and bankruptcy schemes
[74:30] - Support from and for other victims
[81:10] - Healing, moving, and “blissful singledom”
[83:01] - Self-compassion advice
[86:32] - Final reflections and trusting intuition

Tone and Community

The tone through the episode is supportive, empathetic, and at times angry and incredulous at the abuser’s audacity.
Hosts foster a sense of solidarity: “You are not alone. You are not stupid. ...See how easy it is for these people to just easily manipulate.” ([91:51])
Resource reminders (stalking prevention, address confidentiality, “Delete Me” services, etc.) are provided for listeners in similar situations.

Final Message

Jessica’s story is a raw, insight-filled account of surviving a calculated abuser. The episode underlines the importance of trusting one’s instincts, seeking community, and extending self-compassion. Both the hosts and Jessica urge listeners to reach out for support, and to support others in turn—as even the strongest, smartest people can be vulnerable during periods of grief.

To connect or seek support, listeners are reminded to:

Reach out to the National Domestic Violence Hotline if needed.
Look up stalking prevention and address confidentiality programs.
Utilize online privacy services if worried about doxxing or stalking.
Email the show to share their own stories and find community.