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Episode: The Cancer Scare That Taught Jeremy Miner What Really Matters
Host: Dr. Gabrielle Lyon
Guest: Jeremy Miner
Date: October 14, 2025

Episode Overview

This episode features Jeremy Miner—an accomplished entrepreneur, communication expert, and founder of a sales training company—who sits down with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon to talk about high performance, achieving mastery, the foundations of commitment, the art and science of communication, and a life-changing cancer diagnosis that refocused his priorities. Their conversation straddles practical advice for business, health, and personal growth, blending stories from Jeremy’s own life with actionable psychological insights.

Key Themes & Topics

Learning Commitment and the Foundations of Success

[02:14 – 09:14]

• Commitment is identified as the foundational trait of successful people, whether in business, health, or other domains:
  • “Everything starts from commitment… without commitment, it’s really hard to be successful in anything.” — Jeremy Miner [06:05]
• Commitment is learnable, rooted in early-life influences but expandable:
  • It's not entirely “born,” but shaped by upbringing, mentors, and intentional learning.
• Applied knowledge and seeking out the right mentors can dramatically accelerate success.
• Commitment leads to discipline, not the other way around.
  • “Commitment leads to discipline. You can’t be disciplined if you’re not committed.” — Jeremy Miner [07:32]

Psychology, Fear, and Motivation

[10:31 – 13:21]

• Underlying motivations are often fear-based, even when disguised as a drive for money or achievement.
• The human brain is wired for survival, not thriving; most decisions begin from a place of trying to avoid pain or loss.
• Success comes from learning how to consciously leverage and reframe fear.
  • “We can take whatever we have in our life… and especially if we get around the right people… it’s really hard to fail at whatever you want to do.” — Jeremy Miner [13:01]
• Importance of moving from “fear-based” to “gain-based” thinking, but acknowledging that fear remains a strong motivator.

Patterns and Indicators of Success

[13:34 – 16:19]

• Discipline and observable patterns—such as punctuality and reliability—are strong indicators of long-term success.

The Power and Practice of Communication

[14:38 – 23:04]

• Communication is the number one skill in any field, not just sales.
  • “Everything comes down to how you communicate your message, how you frame your offer.” — Jeremy Miner [14:40]
• The concept of Perception of Value (P.O.V.): how something is framed is often more important than its intrinsic value.
  • Memorable analogy: an identical photo in different frames is valued differently.
• Jeremy’s mission with Seven Level is to “change the way sales is perceived in society… because I believe communication is the number one thing that's going to determine your destiny in anything you do.” [21:19]

Selling Health and Selling Mission: Practical Frameworks

[24:05 – 36:00]

• The difference between asking “why” and “what caused you to…” as a way to avoid defensive responses in conversations.
• Disrupting familiar patterns when engaging people opens them up and lowers their guard.
• Selling results versus features: People don’t buy products/services, they buy the results or transformation those products enable (e.g. more energy for better relationships, not “just” energy).
  • “You have to sell the results, what the thing does. That's just the vehicle…” — Jeremy Miner [28:27]
• Practical communication techniques, such as how to open a conversation and reframe the focus from cost to desired outcome.
• Problem finding is a higher-level sales and life skill than problem solving; uncovering multiple underlying issues raises perceived expertise.

Communication as a Learnable, Transferable Skill

[32:34 – 38:02]

• Skills such as empathy, tonality, objection handling, and question framing can be learned—no one is born with these.
• Jeremy studied acting to develop better tonality and empathy, underscoring the benefit of cross-disciplinary learning.

Jeremy Miner’s Habits, Frameworks, and Takeaways

Four Types of Performers

[39:38 – 44:46]

• The Winger: Wings it, relies on luck, inconsistent results.
• The Dabbler: Does the minimum, invests little, avoids mastery.
• The Know-It-All: Stops learning after some early success, capped growth.
• The Committed to Mastery: Perpetual learner, always seeking to improve; this is the top 1%.
  • “Your biggest expense in life is your lack of applied knowledge. Not just knowledge.” — Jeremy Miner [45:20]

Rejection and High Performance

[53:00 – 54:47]

• Jeremy reframes rejection: it’s less about personal failure and more about maintaining genuine concern for others’ consequences.
• Pain and the fear of future pain are the strongest motivators for change. Pleasure is only a distant third.

Physical Health and Habits

[55:58 – 59:59]

• Jeremy’s physical regimen: Gym 4–5x/week, mostly HIIT and some CrossFit, early mornings.
• Nutrition: Solid plan most of the week, admits to “cheat” weekends.
• Supplements: Historically inconsistent, striving for mastery.
• “Time’s your biggest asset. Once it’s gone, you can never get it back.” — Jeremy Miner [57:59]

The Cancer Scare: What it Taught Jeremy

[60:28 – 72:30]

• Jeremy recounts the discovery, diagnosis, and aftermath of a rare sarcoma (soft tissue cancer):
  • Lived with a benign mass for years, then learned while on vacation that it was cancerous.
  • Endured multiple surgeries and a severe staph infection.
  • Kept the diagnosis secret from most people to avoid worrying family, friends, staff, and clients.
• Core insight: The experience clarified what truly matters—relationships, love, and continual learning.
  • “You take two things with you in the next life. You take your knowledge that you learned, and I believe you take the love that you had for your family and your fellow man.” — Jeremy Miner [67:10]
• Rather than wallow in the diagnosis, Jeremy kept moving forward, focusing on his commitments—family, clients, and mission.
• No negative narrative or victim story; instead, he processed challenge as just “another thing to deal with.”
  • Similar to elite military operators: “He’s got things he’s got to do.” — Dr. Gabrielle Lyon [72:06]

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Life doesn’t happen to you. Life happens for you. It’s what you make of what happens in your life.” — Jeremy Miner [05:19]
• “Commitment leads to discipline. You can’t be disciplined if you’re not committed.” — Jeremy Miner [07:32]
• “Your biggest expense in life is your lack of applied knowledge.” — Jeremy Miner [45:20]
• “The two biggest emotional drivers that cause a human being to want to change are actually pain and the fear of future pain.” — Jeremy Miner [54:32]
• “You take two things with you in the next life. You take your knowledge that you learned and... the love that you had for your family and your fellow man.” — Jeremy Miner [67:10]
• “Success is simply a choice. Choose well.” — Jeremy Miner [72:30]

Timestamps for Key Segments

• Commitment as Foundation: [02:14–09:14], [10:31–13:21]
• Communication Mastery & Framing: [14:38–23:04], [24:05–36:00]
• Sales and Mission-Driven Communication: [36:00–44:46]
• Types of Performers & Mastery: [39:38–44:46]
• Physical Performance & Habits: [55:58–59:59]
• Cancer Diagnosis Story: [60:28–72:30]
• Final Advice: [72:30–73:02]

Conclusion & Final Takeaways

Jeremy’s journey—from a brush with cancer to business mastery—is a study in commitment, adaptation, and perspective. He argues that commitment, applied knowledge, and surrounding oneself with the right influences pave the way for success and resilience in the face of adversity. Communication is a learnable, vital skill that impacts every area of life. Ultimately, Jeremy reminds listeners: success and mastery in any field start with a clear choice, continuously renewed.

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