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These Daily Habits Are Aging Your Brain Faster (Do This Instead) | EP 400.A
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Welcome Back to the Dr. Gundry podcast. This is part two of our 400th episode extravaganza. In part one, we hacked your daily routine here. In part two, we're protecting your health for the long haul. Memory, sleep, inflammation, disease prevention, and brain protection. The big stuff. I've been saying it for years. Growing old does not mean your best days are behind you. And every guess you're about to hear proves exactly that. Let's start with a man who literally wrote the book on memory, Jim Kwik. Real quick, before we dive in, if you've gotten value from this show, I'd love for you to take 15 seconds and leave a five star review on Apple podcasts or Spotify. Those ratings are literally how the platform decides to show this podcast to new people. So something that takes you no time at all could put life changing information in front of someone who desperately needs it. Okay, let's get in today's episode.
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Here's the thing, Stephen, because I get this comment a lot. I train at Google and Facebook and they're like, jim, I don't have to remember this. I have a search engine. We organize the world's information here. Here's my answer for this. I'll give you a couple of answers. Number one, our life. In the book, I have a quote from a French philosopher that says, life is the C between B and D. B is birth, D is death, C is choice. And we always make these, these choices. And part of the things is our life is a reflection of all the choices we've made up to this point of our, of our existence. Right? What are we going to eat? Where are we going to live? Who are we going to spend time with? What are we going to do for a living? All these things, right? But we can only make good decisions based on the information we know. And that presupposes we remember it. And so that's why memory is so important. But other reason why it's not just about mental intelligence, it's about mental fitness. There's these, you know, things that are happening, like digital dementia, where we're outsourcing our memories to our smart devices and it keeps our to dos, it keeps our calendars, it keeps our phone. How many phone numbers did you know growing up? How many?
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Like, a lot.
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All of them? Yeah, a lot. How many phone numbers do you know? Or whoever's listening, how many phone numbers do you know right now? One, two, three maybe. And there could be somebody you text and call every day, but you, if your battery is dead, you don't have your phone with you, you honestly don't know who the, what their number is. And not that I want to memorize 200 numbers, right? I mean, I certainly could teach somebody how to do that. But we've lost the ability, it should be concerning. We've lost the ability to remember one or a pin number or a passcode or a conversation we just had or something we were going to say or why we went to the store. We go to the store to buy one thing, we come back with two bags full of things, except for that one thing that we want. You know, the absent after someone's name. And that's why I believe memory is a muscle. There's no such thing as a good or bad memory. There's a trained memory and an untrained memory. And this also goes to not only digital dementia, but also what I talk about in the book Digital deduction, where if you don't have to think anymore and then there's a technology that tells you where and when to turn right or what's recommended for you because there's an algorithm we're finding children, when they're tested, they don't have the same analytical ability of previous generations because the technology is doing all the thinking for them. So they don't have to develop these thinking fitness like the critical thinking, divergent thinking, rationalization, and so on. So technology is wonderful. It allows us to have this conversation right now and everyone will listen for it. But technology is a tool free for you to use. But your brain is like a muscle. It's obviously not a muscle, but it acts like a muscle. But if I use a technology like Lyft or Uber to go five blocks when I could have walked where I use an elevator, when I could have walked up three blocks of flights of stairs, there is a physical toll to my body. And if I put my arm in a sling for 12 months, it wouldn't stay the same. It wouldn't even grow. It would grow worse. It would atrophy. And that's what digital dimension, digital deduction is the high reliance on technology where we don't have to maintain a level of mental fitness. And so I would encourage people to be able to exercise their brain like they exercise the rest of their body.
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Wow, that's a pretty good way to end all this. So, all right, I ask everybody who comes on the program, give our listeners one thing they can do today to get a better brain. Just one thing. How do we start? Just one.
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Absolutely. I would say this, I would say first. Oh, God, I'm going to take like 10 things.
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Yeah. I only want one.
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One thing. One thing. I would say this. I would say sit down and design your morning routine. Your morning routine. Everybody has their morning routine of the things that they do to win that day. Because if you want to win the day, you have to win that first hour of the day first. You create your habits, and your habits create you. My morning routine, if people Google it or we did a whole podcast episode on it, Millions of downloads and views on this. Jim Quick's morning routine focuses on the brain. The 10 things I do every morning to jumpstart my brain. And I would just say things, find something in the morning for you instead of picking up the phone because that's rewiring your brain to be distracted, and it's rewiring your brain to be reactive to things that will hurt your peace of mind, your positivity, your productivity, your performance. I would say replace picking up your phone with one thing that's good for your brain, whether it's eating a good brain food, taking deep diaphragmic breaths. Some fun thing I teach people to do is brush their teeth with the opposite hand because it engages the opposite side of your brain. Because as your body moves, your brain grooves. But what it really does is it forces you to focus first thing in the morning because you can't be doing that and being distracted. So it trains your fit, your focus and your presence muscles. And that's how you're going to achieve the most. Because the most important thing is to keep the most important thing, the most important thing. So my challenge with everybody, look at your morning routine and replace picking up your phone with something else that's more brain friendly.
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Now, can everybody remember that, please? You got to brush your teeth with the other hand. And actually, I'm going to add something. While you're brushing your teeth, you have to do deep knee bends. You got to do squats. You're just sitting there anyhow, just standing there. I like, do some. Yeah, do some deep dive and brush your teeth with the opposite hand. Okay, that's the lesson today. Let's hear from Dr. Taz. What's one thing that might surprise them that women can do today to support their hormonal health?
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C
That might surprise them.
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Might surprise.
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C
Okay, we'll see.
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D
I don't know.
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Maybe surprised you.
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Well, this surprised me. But this might be so simple. Women, according to Eastern systems of medicine, need to sleep from 10p to 5am if they're not sleeping continuously between that window of time, then Chinese medicine, ayurvedic medicine, predicts that they're going to have hormone disruption and that they're going to drive themselves from faster into a hormone crash or into early menopause or perimenopause or many of these things. So many women tell me, for example, I slept in or I sleep in on the weekends, or I do this or I do that. They were very specific about the 10p to about 5am so that was surprising to me. Very connected to hormone health. I think the other thing that is very surprising for many women is the importance of protein. You know, I think many women don't understand that their blood sugar fluctuations and instability impact hormones directly and vice versa. So if they can get blood sugar smart, a lot of times they can balance their hormone shifts much better.
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Perfect. All right, before you go, I'd like to ask you to join in the audience question. And we teed this one up for you, so I want you to hit it out of the park now. So this comes from Voyage Vixens on Instagram. Is it possible to avoid any kind of menopause side effects by either diet or lifestyle practices? And if so, how?
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So this is a great question and part of why I wrote the book, because the short answer is yes, you can avoid menopause side effects with a healthy diet, a good, healthy gut that's working well, minimizing toxins and really focusing and prioritizing on sleep and structuring a life that works for you, right? Where at least 80% of the time you're sort of living in kind of an easy, not easy, that's not the right word, a very even pace. So that makes your hormone shifts much more bearable, sometimes not even noticeable. A lot of our patients sail through perimenopause and menopause without any side effects whatsoever. So the answer is yes, and I write about it here. This is a whole book to help you get balance and avoid it. Now, some women, despite their best attempts and really trying hard, still have side effects. Well, there are remedies that help with that. There's everything from nutrient remedies, herbal remedies, then of course, there's hormone replacement therapy. So there's a really big toolbox to help women. And I hope every woman listening will reach in, grab the one that works for them and really get answers rather than kind of suffering in silence.
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Hey, sweetie. Your mother showed me this Carvana thing for selling the car.
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I'm gonna give it a try.
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Wish me luck. Me again.
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I put in the license plate.
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It Gave me an offer. Unbelievable. Okay, I accepted the offer. They're picking it up Tuesday from the driveway. I haven't even left my chair. It's done. The car is gone. I'm holding a check anyway. Carvana, give it a whirl. Love ya. So good you'll want to leave a voicemail about it. Sell your car today on Carvana.
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C
Pickup fees may apply.
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A
Jim Quick just showed us how to build a better brain. And Dr. Taz brought the energy. Now, here's the thing. You can do every brain hack in the world, and it won't matter if you're not doing this one thing. Sleeping. Arianna Huffington was talking about this long before it was trendy. And what she's about to share might change your bedtime routine tonight.
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As you know, the reason New Year resolutions don't work is because they are so big, and people do them maybe for a week, two weeks, and then they give up. So our behavior change prescriptions are all based on what we call micro steps. Too small to fail.
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Okay, so that's. Give me. So it's the New Year. Give me an example of a micro step that you can't fail at.
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Great. Let's say that you want to reduce your addiction to your phone and to social media and to technology, which, as you know, is a growing source of stress.
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Yes.
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Because we are all increasingly addicted to this thing, and we find it hard to disconnect at night to go to sleep. 72% of people sleep with their phone by their bed. So if they wake up in the middle of the night to go to the bathroom or for whatever reason, they're tempted, even if they tell themselves, I'm not going to look at my phone, if they can't immediately go back to sleep, they go to their phone. And that, again, all the science tells us, is incredibly disruptive to getting deep sleep. So one of my favorite micro steps, and we have over 700, is pick a time at the end of your day that you declare the end of your working day. It's an arbitrary end. Because the truth is that anybody who has an interesting job does not really have an end to their day. I mean, you could spend all night, right, answering emails and handling things.
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Correct.
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I could do the same. If anybody tells me, oh, I can do everything I could possibly have done by the end of the day, I say, I think you should change jobs. Your job isn't interesting and challenging enough.
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Right.
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Right. You're right.
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So given that we need to pick an arbitrary end to declare an end, and we Declare the end by turning off our phone and charging it outside our bedroom. So that's a little step. It's a ritual, but it's very significant because you have a clear demarcation between your day life, with all its challenges and problems, and your night life, which should be all about recharging and reconnecting with a deeper part of ourselves. We've even produced a little product which is a charging station that looks like a phone bed, and it has a little blanket. It can charge up to 10 phones and iPads. It could be for the whole family. And you are supposed to put your phone under the blanket, tuck it in, say good night, and reconnect in the morning. And you are fully recharged, both the phone and you.
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Perfect. Now, you know, my friend Dr. Mercola would say that the other reason not to have your phone by your bed is the electromagnetic waves that are constantly coming out of your phone.
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Right.
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And disrupting almost every cellular function that we have. And you're right. Sleeping with a cell phone near your bed is a really dumb idea.
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And even if you turn it off and you don't have to worry about the electromagnetic waves, it's still a reminder of everything you have to deal with in your life. Because our phone should never really be called a phone anymore. The last thing we do on our phone is phone anybody.
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That's right.
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It's really the repository of every challenge, every problem, every demand on your time and attention, and we need to disconnect from that.
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Is there a time during the day that people should have a timeout from a phone like we used to have in kindergarten? We had to take a half an hour nap whether we wanted to or not.
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Absolutely. First of all, at Thrive, for example, all our meetings, you know, leadership meetings, product meetings, anything, are device free because you know what happens at meetings? People claim to be taking notes. They're not. They're alleviating boredom, they're texting, they're updating their Facebooks, whatever. And we tell everybody, listen, if you have something more important to do, don't come to the meeting. If you're in the meeting, you need to be 100% in the meeting. And what's happened? At the moment, our attention span has been dramatically reduced. I mean, it's now actually lower than that of the goldfish. And so anytime there is a moment of boredom in the conversation, whether it's over dinner or in a meeting, we automatically go to our phone looking for stimulation.
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What were you saying?
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Oh,
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exactly. So if we can stay present, then we're really going to be able to control.
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Right. I approach this as, you know, from the gut and food. And the longer I've been at this, the more impressed I am with the power of not only foods, but also the microbiome, the guts that live in our gut, the bugs to actually affect our anxiety and depression. And you know, I have some personal experiences with that with one of my children and it is amazing, at least in my humble opinion, the power of food, certain foods, to absolutely make your brain crazy. Any, any mother of a four year old knows that. You know, a trip to Disneyland with simple carbohydrates, you get a hyperactive child who suddenly then collapses, screaming and crying. And you can see just immediately the power of certain foods to affect brain function. I'm sure thrive is incorporating that into your course.
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Absolutely. And we have incorporated the number one Gandhi rule, which is that that your health depends more on what you don't eat rather than what you eat. Because people may follow different prescriptions. I mean, they may be vegan, they may be meat eaters, but if they can stay away from sugar and simple carbohydrates and processed foods, that's already big victory. And also, as you know, this sleep movement and diet are incredibly interconnected. Like I have all the science in the sleep book that if you are sleep deprived, your body physiologically craves carbs and sugars. So it's not even a mental decision, it's like physiological.
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Yeah, no, you're absolutely right. Years ago in my first book, Dr. Gundry's Diet of Evolution, I had a study of actually college students who were put in a sleep lab and they were allowed to sleep for eight hours. And then they were awakened and they looked at a hormone that suppresses hunger called leptin. And the leptin level was nice and high. So they then took them and allowed them to only sleep six hours. And their leptin level was very low. But the hunger hormone ghrelin went sky high. So then, so that actually proved, in fact what we're talking about, that lack of sleep makes you hungry and it makes you hungry for simple carbohydrates. I learned that as a heart surgeon and to stay awake all night, you know, I just eat simple carbs to stay awake. But the interesting thing is they took these same students, they told them that they were going to let them sleep for six hours, but they let them sleep for eight hours. Interestingly, they behaved as if they only had slept for six hours. Their hunger hormone was sky high. So psychologically they were prepared for a short sleep period. So it's amazing the power of even anticipation of what's going to happen. Do you ever use an aura ring?
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D
You know, I love the our ring and I used to use it, but now after all the work I've done on sleep, I'm kind of good on sleep.
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You don't need it anymore?
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Well, it's like I do get my 8 hours 95% of the time. Like in all our lives, you know, something happens, there is a delayed flight or there is jet lag. But 95% of the time it's my biggest priority. And I tell a lot of my friends if they are trying to lose weight or get fit and they wake up before they've gotten enough sleep to go to the gym, I said, no, turn off the alarm and sleep. It's more important to get enough sleep. And enough sleep, as you know, varies. You know, 99% of people need seven to nine hours. You know, your number may be seven somebody else, maybe nine minus. But there is one to one and a half percent of the population that has a genetic mutation and they don't need a lot of sleep. We know it. If we have it. I know I don't have it. There are the people who wake up after four hours and they are feeling great.
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Yeah, well, you know, Michael Debakey, one of the most famous heart surgeons in the world, only slept about four hours and he lived into his late 90s on four hours of sleep.
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The problem is the people who worked for him, if they thought that because Dr. Debakian slept for four hours, they should too. That's the problem. And there are some people in positions of authority who have this genetic mutation. And that's where we need to inform people. There is a test, as you know, there is a genetic test people can take if they're not sure. But normally I think if you have any kind of awareness, you should know if you have the genetic mutation or not.
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No, it's true. My, my brother in law who's a cardiologist, really wanted to be a heart surgeon, but he knew that he could not go, you know, without the sleep that heart surgeons often do. And so he became a cardiologist so he could sleep more. And he's obviously much more intelligent than, than I am. But yeah, I could. The longest I ever went without sleep, seriously was 72 hours on call in my residency program. And then I went for, then I slept for four hours and actually went to see an orchid show. It's a true story now, looking back, you know, we most residents before the rules of how long a resident could stay in the hospital, we were so sleep deprived and made, quite frankly, bad decisions. But, you know, our mentors had done that. And doggone it, if they were going to do it, you had.
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You would do it. But we've done a lot on the Thrive media platform about doctor burnout. As you know, it's a real crisis.
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Yes.
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And the increase in doctors of suicides. And we had a great surgeon from Cedars Sinai who wrote a very powerful piece about his own experience and the changes that have to happen. So we are trying to put a spotlight on this crisis in the same way we're trying to put a spotlight on the crisis you mentioned among teenagers. And we've launched a program of mental health on campus. We have, at the moment, Thrive editors in over 70 universities working with students, writing about what's happening. Because, as you know, a lot of colleges don't have enough mental health facilities or the ability to provide the help that students need, which often is incredibly simple. Just the right foods, the right sleep and movement can deal with an enormous amount of mental health problems. We're not talking about bipolar disorders or schizophrenia. We're talking about garden variety depression and anxiety. And they are so connected to what we eat, how much we sleep, and are we moving.
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And those three things are the things that really are lacking in most colleges. Time to hear our conversation with Dr. Daniel. Amen. When you find out about your brain, there are steps you can take at any age to make a difference.
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You bet. I mean, that's what's exciting. I mean, I really think that's the foundational message of my life. You're not stuck with the brain you have. You can make it better. In fact, if you sleep better tonight, your brain will actually work better tomorrow. If you eat better today, your brain will actually be better today. If you eat badly today, your brain is gonna be worse today. I have a new show that goes along with the book on public television. And I have Lisa Gibbons, who's a friend of mine. She's a news personality. She's been beautiful. She's smart. Her mother and her grandmother died with Alzheimer's disease. And as I got to know her, I'm like, you want to come see me? Because we can tell years. And she goes, well, why would I want to know? And I said, well, if you knew a train was going to hit you, wouldn't you want to at least try to get out of the way? And so I have her brain at 51. And then I did it and it looked terrible. And then I have her brain at 62 and it looks stunningly beautiful. Why? Because she does all of the right things. So genes aren't really a death sentence. They should be a wake up call for you to do the right things to prevent what you're vulnerable to.
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Yeah, no, you're right. In fact, I just recently joined you on public television with the longevity paradox. And, and you're right, genes actually have so little to do with our destiny and our long term health and our long term brain health. 30% of us carry the ApoE4 allele, which is a predictor of increased risk of Alzheimer's. And so many of my patients come to me carrying that gene. But the fascinating thing is, and I'll tell anyone who will listen, I have a number of people now in their late 80s carrying the 44 allele, which not a good thing to have, but they're doing great. But I have a 97 year old gentleman who's a 34 and he still runs his company and his three daughters will not let him retire because he's so good at what he does. And so any of my Apoe 4 folks, I'll say, hey, you know, 97 and you're running your company, of course they're going to say, why doesn't he retire? I tell anyone who listens, don't retire if you're smart. Because particularly men and now increasingly women in the workforce being engaged in everyday activities of work is. Back me up on this is important in your life.
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E
So in the mnemonic Bright Minds, where I talk about the risk factors, r is retirement and aging. When you stop learning, your brain starts dying. And so being engaged, you only want to be engaged as long as you want to be able to think. And I had one woman said who is 60 and she's like, you know, I dieted and I exercised. I don't really want to do that anymore. And I said, as long as you're okay with the consequences of aging, which is depression and dementia, then why worry about it? But I'm not okay with it. And I need to keep my brain actively engaged in order for it to work at an optimal level. And quite frankly, you know, I have four children and I love them, but I never want to have to live with them. I never want to be a burden. And I don't want them taking my keys from me. I don't want them telling me what to eat or what to wear. I want to be independent. But that means I need to be making good decisions for my health. So my brain doesn't do what it often does with aging. It deteriorates. I've seen way too many 80, 90, 100 year old brains, and most of them, except for a select few who loved their brains throughout their life, look terrible. And I'm not okay with that.
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A
Yeah, this has been great. You know, I think that's so important. And I tell anyone who will listen that it is never too late. And in the number of stories I have of people, you know, on the way out, in their mid-80s, suffering from diabetes, heart disease, arthritis, you name it, who are now in their mid-90s, and they're thriving individuals. I wouldn't have believed this. It was possible in most of my career. But I think your message that your brain is malleable, I think the sooner you get to work on it, the better. I think we could both agree on that. But it's never too late. Lisa Gibbons is a great example to turn things around.
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E
Yeah, it's never too late to have a better brain and a better life. And it starts with love. Love of yourself, love of your brain, love of your family. So doing the right thing and the scans just always give me hope that I can tell how much better people can be. And I always tell people, whatever we see is good news because you have what you have. And if it's great, we celebrate. And if it's bad, we go to work and rehabilitate it. And I did the big NFL study when the NFL was lying. They had a problem.
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Yeah.
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And high levels of damage. It's like, stop lying about it. But 80% of my players get better when I put them on a rehabilitation program. You are not stuck with if you've been bad to your brain. Well, now is the time to make a decision to be better to your brain. And it can be better for you.
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A
You all right? Takeaway. Is there one thing today that somebody can do to help their brain? Just one. I know there's bunches of them. Give us one today.
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E
So I worked with BJ Fogg for six months. He's a professor at Stanford on creating tiny habits. It's the smallest thing you can do today that will make the biggest difference. So the one thing, three seconds a day, whenever you go to make a decision, ask yourself, is this good for my brain or bad for it? And if you can answer that question with information and love, love of yourself, you'll begin to change your brain in such a positive way.
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A
All right, very good. So where can viewers and listeners find the end of mental illness and learn more about you?
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E
So the book will be everywhere, on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, wherever great books are sold. They can learn about us@amenclinics.com so amen, like the last word in a prayer. Clinics.com and we're in the middle of a six week challenge to get people's brains healthy because the end of mental illness begins, begins with a revolution in brain health. And we're creating brain warriors to move this revolution forward, just like you're doing as well.
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A
Time to hear from my dear friend, Dr. Valter Longo, who has done some of the most groundbreaking research on longevity. If there's one thing that people could do today to prevent cancer, what would you say? One thing I would say put you on the spot.
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F
Yeah. Either the longevity diet or the fasting mimicking diet. Right. So those are. And people think that somehow I stumbled on that. But no, I didn't stumble on the longevity diet. I didn't stumble on the fasting mimicking diet. It was 30 years of searching for what's best for you.
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Right.
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And so, you know, I started with Roy Walford.
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I was going to say, you had a great mentor.
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F
I had a great mentor. And there was a beginning. Right. In my year one in my PhD at UCLA, Roy Walford is in Biosphere 2 doing the first human calorie restriction study.
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Right.
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So I think that that's where I started and I thought this is great. It teaches us a lot. Teaches us a lot, but is not what people are going to ever do. Right. Because it was obvious. Yeah. So then there was 30 years of like, what are people actually willing to do? So for example, a few years ago we published a paper in Nature Metabolism that something we always wanted to do. Like, and this is also answering your question because most people have a bad diet, Right. That's just a reality, you know, for whatever reason they have a bad diet. So we say, okay, why don't we start with mice? They have the worst diet that we can think of. We give them high fat, high sugar, high calorie. Sure enough, these mice become huge, like most people in Europe and the United States. And then it's just incredible how many problems, human problems. They develop very high cholesterol, heart problems. And then they died way earlier than people on the normal diet. I had a great diet, a normal diet that I controlled die. And it was just unbelievable how much earlier they died. Right. How rapidly they died. Then we just give them fmd, fasting, mimicking, Diet once a month, it just reversed everything. The cholesterol problem, the heart problems, the lifespan problems. Remarkable, right? The insulin sensitivity problems. So just five days a month together with a terrible, the worst diet that you can imagine, it fixed all the problems. Now, I'm not saying, of course we work very hard at getting everybody to, to eat the longevity diet, but it's just not realistic for the majority and possibly the great majority of people. This is why in Italy now, hey, fmd, what about every three months? It's a big gamble, right? Because hey, it's like, is it possible now in mice you had at least once a month. Now you want to go once every three months. This is a miracle. But we'll see, right? We'll see what it can do, right? To the worst health profile population in Europe.
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That'd be great. So let's take a second and back up people who've read my books. I write about the fasting mimicking diet, your invention and good for you. But what is that can give us simply. Yeah, you're mimicking fasting, but you're allowing people to eat like three to five days of a low calorie, low protein,
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low sugar, high fat, 100% plant based.
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But you're allowing them to eat.
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F
Yes.
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A
And one of the things that I completely agree with you, why have it plant based if you're going to use this for, well, for everybody, but specifically for treating cancer patients. What's the logic?
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The logic was looking around the world and we have two versions, you know, one of them also, you know, inspired in part by your work, we have two versions. One is for everybody and one is for people with inflammatory issues.
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Right.
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So the inflammatory one is very different from the, so the autoimmunity ones are very different from the other one. But, but the idea for, for everybody was to go and look around the longevity areas of the world, southern Italy and Okinawa and Loma Linda, and just using ingredients that are very widely used in those areas, reach the fasting mimicking properties, but do it with extremely healthy food that most people would not argue with. And it was a good idea. For example, in one study in mice with inflammatory bowel disease, we saw that if we use the fasting mimicking diet versus water only fasting, the prebiotic ingredients were feeding the Lactobacillus and bifidobacteria. So you see a growth of the good bacteria in the gut to the mice and that worked better than the water only fasting, I think in general that was the rationale. Now for the non Inflammatory. We're about to, to publish the first 15 cases. Right. Of autoimmunities using the non inflammatory. And the non inflammatory one is missing a lot of vegetables, you know, is no. Nice shades and no tomatoes and no. So all of. Yes, all of those are gone. And much more than that. Right. So we've been practicing that, you know, both with the everyday diet and with the, and with the fasting making diet. So it's a special fasting diet which we call Lina, low inflammatory, non allergenic. So those are the two major categories. Now there are different FMDs, like Alzheimer's, much higher calories with a ketogenic supplement in between. That's what we just finished a trial in Italy, a multicenter trial on that. And so there are a few different versions, but there's one for diabetes that it's a little less starches and you know, allowing the physicians to have a, you know, a more aggressive intervention as far as far as, you know, starches in the diet. But yeah, those, let's say those are the four main ones.
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It's my favorite part of the whole book.
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All right, good.
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In researching everything that I did for Fast Like a Girl, I found some research on something called a fasted snack. And what the study showed was that you could take two groups of people and one group you can say, okay, you're gonna fast 13 hours and then you're gonna break your fast. The second group, you're gonna go at 13 hours and then we're gonna ask that you go two hours more to 15, but that you eat what is essentially a fat bomb. So you're eating high fat, it is low calorie and it is low protein because we know protein will pull you out of autophagy. So you want to have this pure fat bomb. And it had some very specific requirements. They did this over a 30 day period. And what they found in the study was that the group that elongated their fast by having a fasted snack lost more weight and most of it was around the belly and had greater improvements in their metabolic numbers. Whereas if somebody just went 13 hours and stopped there, they had less of a result. So in Eat Like a Girl, I wanted to bring in the fasted snack and bring back this idea that there are some things you can eat. And I actually had my chefs create some recipes of things that you can eat in the fasting window that will continue all the healing of fasting. But you're eating and that kills the hunger.
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Yeah. And that's been in my actually the last three books. A lot of this is work from Dr. Valter Longo and now he has a bar that he used and it's mainly a nut bar. And nuts in general won't break your fast. You'll stay in ketosis. You're right. I don't know where this idea came from that a 12 hour fast is fasting and that it's good for you. All the Studies show that 12 hours of not eating isn't really going to benefit you and you've got to push that window. And you're right. A lot of folks, it's hard to get past that 12 hour window because, you know, we've been brainwashed. Okay. You know, you stop eating at 8 and you can start again at 8 and that's 12 hours. And that's really good for you. It doesn't bear out in human studies. You've got to go farther than that, but you've got to get past that. Oh my gosh, I'm dying of hunger. Or I'm. I'm going to go exercise and everybody knows I need to eat before I exercise. Let's not go down that.
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Yeah, we could talk. That's a whole nother episode.
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Our hunter gatherers didn't eat before they exercise.
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No, they didn't.
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And modern hunter gatherers don't eat before they exercise. You exercise to go eat.
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That's right. I'm so grateful to align with you on this because in fast like a girl, I mapped out six different length fasts. And when we first mapped it out, I had so many people say to me, nobody wants to do a three day water fast. And I was like, really? Because I built my whole YouTube channel off a three day water fast. And when I actually laid out what you're saying, like, think of it as a healing state. And then you get to decide how long do you want to hang out in that healing state. What we have found is, I mean, every January we do a three day water fast. Last January we had 100,000 people worldwide do a three day water fast with us. People want to fast that long. But tools like a fasted snack now help us train ourselves to get to those positions. So I want people to see the miracle their body is when you go into those longer fasts. So I love that we align on that.
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Yeah. And there's a really cool Chinese study that I wrote about last couple books. So they took, they did a 14 day water fast on volunteers and half the group 14 day water fast. The other group worked, given 100 calories of prebiotic fiber undigestible by them, but fed the gut microbiome. And the guys, it was a male study, sorry, but the guys who got the prebiotic fiber 14 day water fast had absolutely no hunger. And it was because you were feeding the microbiome. So if you're going to do a water fast, please feed your microbiome.
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I love that you bring this to light because in the book I have what I call the foundational five food principles for women. And one of them is eat for your microbes, not your taste buds. Because if you always are Thinking about your microbes, as you know, your taste buds will change. And we have done that in these long fasts where we'll take like a prebiotic powder and have people put it in water and the hunger goes away.
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Oh, yeah. It's called the gut centric theory of hunger and I think it's absolutely real.
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Yeah.
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Now, staying on the theme of things harming us without our knowing, Dr. Mercola is going to talk about something that's probably in your pocket right now. I have to warn you, after this, you're not going to put. I have to warn you, after this, you're going to want to put your phone down. I like to ask all my guests about one best practice for achieving longevity. If you were going to do one thing, what's your trick?
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I can share this with you offline, but I have a Super RSSB for PubMed. I'm going through reading about 2000 studies a year now. The full study, not just the abstract and the 80 keywords that I'm looking at are all for longevity and sub variants of it. So this is an area I'm beyond passionate about. So I want to give you a good answer, but I think that the ultimate answer is just to do the fundamental basics because right now the best we can do, to hope to do is live to 120 in pretty good shape because that's exactly where no one's living beyond that now with our current technology. And I think if just do the basics. And I really. So I wrote Fat for fuel, get metabolic flexible rooting, keto fasting, do the partial fasting, get the benefits of autophagy, get the rejuvenation benefits active. The other thing is it does activate your stem cells so that when you're rebuilding and getting all the extra carbs and the good branched chain amino acids and you've exercised those stem cells are activated and they go in to rebuild the tissues. Exactly what you need to do. So you get that thing going. Thirdly, you've got to stay away from emf. These are sort of the primal three ones that you know, because almost everyone, almost everyone doesn't understand the importance. And I'm really spending lots of time in writing this new book and hopefully it'll be out either late this year, early next year. I'm almost finished writing it and helping people understand why it actually has. It goes back to nad, which is the fundamental core of why ZMF exposure is such an issue. And NAD is required as a substrate for parp, poly adp, ribose polymerase to repair the DNA damage, it lays down the matrix for the DNA enzymes repair enzymes to come in and work. And every time, every time you have a single stranded break, it sucks out two, two or three NAD plus molecules. And you do that for a while and you're just. NAD levels go down into the toilet and you just can't. This NAD to NADH ratio, then ADPH goes crazy and you just suffer premature aging.
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So don't put this next to your bed.
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Well, my phone is actually quite close to my bed, maybe two feet away, but it's in airplane mode and it's in a Faraday bag because I mean, emergencies happen. Thank God we have this technology. You know, if I have to call somebody, I have someone breaking in, I've got to talk to the police or something. I need that phone. But I do. You certainly don't need it on. And the real challenge is that we have so many teenagers. I think as. It's crazy, I forget the specific numbers, but it's like 70% of the 6 to 17 year olds are going to bed with their phone. Yeah, it's just insane because they don't understand the damage they're doing. And just. Cell phones. Cell phones. The one you just held up, There is no doubt in my mind. I have two whole chapters, this in my new book that's coming out are indeed the cigarettes of the 21st century. People just don't see it yet. There's no question. And I go through all the analogies, the PR agencies, Hills and Knowlton, that the back industry used and how they were able to scam and confuse the public for 30 years, actually probably for 50 years after the science was known that it caused this, even after the Surgeon General issued a report, and believe me, the situation is far worse with telecommunications in the wireless industry because they have, they have totally corrupted the federal regulatory agencies. So anyway, it's on a tangent, but you know, EMF, EMF's a big issue. You've gotta understand it, you have to act on it. And if you don't, you can do. You can have the best strategy. You can take the best polyphenols in the world, you can do stem cell transplants, it doesn't matter. You're dying prematurely because of this toxic exposure that virtually no one understands. It's like cigarettes in the 30s.
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Well, from now on, I am not gonna smoke my cell phone anymore.
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Absolutely.
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That's a good, good strategy.
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Let's hear from Dr. Song. I want to touch finally, because you spend a lot of time in the book we started with this Antibiotics. Come on. That's all pediatricians are good for, giving kids antibiotics when they walk through the door. Where do you stand on them?
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Well, I mean, that is also another whole challenge chapter, and it's called what Every Parent and Practitioner Should Know About Antibiotics. And we have with antibiotics, I mean, we know antibiotics can be life saving.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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Antibiotics are really one of the most important public health inventions of the 20th century. But we're no longer in the 20th century, and we're now in the 21st century, where antibiotic resistance is quickly becoming a leading cause of death worldwide. So we need to understand the. The impact of inappropriate and, you know, excessive use of antibiotics now for children, especially when some studies show that up to 70% of antibiotic prescriptions written for children are inappropriately prescribed. It's, yes, the public health concern, but it's also the individual patient concern in front of you, where knowing that even just one brand of antibiotics can significantly increase the subsequent risk of developing anxiety or depression or mental health concerns. We know this in adults, too. The more rounds of antibiotics, the higher the risk. And we certainly have our epidemic of teenage anxiety going on right now. And so we need to understand when it's appropriate to use antibiotics, which can be hard to do as a parent, but, you know, you really want to make sure that it is absolutely necessary. Like you said, is there a culture?
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Can we.
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We wait for the results to make sure it's bacterial before we start the antibiotics? And when antibiotics are used, hopefully necessarily, we understand how to restore the microbiome. That's really key because then we can mitigate, prevent some of the downstream effects of microbiome disruption that may not be immediate. They may show up years or decades down the road. But the stage was set with those antibiotics.
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We talked about this off camera. How do you, as a parent, talk to the pediatrician about your desires versus perhaps the not so newly trained pediatrician's desires? Is there a balance? How do you strike a balance?
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Yeah, it is very tough because as more and more parents become enlightened, enlightened, aware with Dr. Google or Dr. Google, yes, it's really important to find a pediatrician who can partner with you. And that can be challenging. I mean, fortunately, there are more and more pediatricians who are really recognizing that how we're practicing conventional pediatrics, it's not helping our kids thrive for the long term. It's not helping them become thriving adults, which is our goal as parents and as pediatricians. And I have the honor of really being able to teach a lot of pediatric practitioners who are coming to me saying, I need this knowledge. I mean, in fact, I had this one. I am head of A4M's pediatric education. And at our last pediatric conference, a gentleman pediatrician who was in his 60s came to me with just very distraught. And I thought, oh my gosh, what
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is he going to tell me?
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And so, and so he came up to me, he said, I can't believe I didn't know this sooner. And he was thinking about, about all the patients that he'd seen, and I wish I had known. And I said, you know what? You didn't know them, but now you know and you can continue to help your patients moving forward. But there still are too many pediatricians who are not yet enlightened and aware, which is, I mean, partly. I wrote the book for practitioners because I've had practitioners who. One of the schools of nurse practitioners, doctorate of nurse practitioner degree. They're now requiring my book as reading for all of their students, which is amazing. I mean, this is what we want. This has to become not the alternative medicine, but the conventional standard of care. So as a parent, though, especially when it comes to antibiotics, I mean, I have a list of six questions to ask before you start the antibiotics. But the number one question, and I would say this is for adults too, the number one question to ask is, hey, doc, is this antibiotic really necessary? And it seems like a silly question to ask, but some of the studies have found that doctors are. Are twice as likely to prescribe an antibiotic even if they think it's not necessary because it's a viral infection. They're twice as likely to prescribe the antibiotics if they think that the patient wants one
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time to hear our conversation with Dr. Bredesen. You outline in most of your books, and I do too, what steps can our viewers and listeners do? I mean, are there action items that we can do every day? Absolutely.
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And the most important thing, I would say, is for people to know where you stand. So now we have new tests, which you don't. Now you don't have to go and get a very expensive PET scan. You don't have to go get a spinal tap. I mean, who wants to go for spinal taps? You know, I don't want to have a spinal tap unless I have encephalitis or something. So you can avoid, avoid that now. So there are blood tests that you can do. So you want to know your P. Tau217, your GFAP and your NFL. And there's something called brain scan that will give those to you. And I actually had it done at my kitchen table a few weeks ago to check my like. Okay, good. If you know your cholesterol, you know, you know your blood pressure, you should know what Your P Tau217 is. And there's a new one coming called Super P Tau 217 that's even more sensitive. So this can tell us even before you are symptomatic where your brain stands. Are you on the, are you synaptoblastic, you're making synapses or are you synaptoclastic? One of the surprising things we found is that you literally just like sleep and wakefulness, your brain has two modes, connection protection. And so when you're in connection, the blood flows differently. Your trophics are, support is on, you have oxidative phosphorylation, you're using oxygen, all this sort of stuff. When you then switch to the protection mode, you're making amyloid, you've got that barrier, you're changing your metabolism, your cytokines are going, all these sorts of things. So you have a, literally a switch. So we want to look at this and as far as what to do on a day to day basis, we think of the seven basics and the two specifics. So the seven basics which you've talked about as well, a plant rich, mildly ketogenic diet which has worked very, very well for metabolism. You want to have most importantly metabolic flexibility as you write about, and then exercise. And it looks like hiit is actually probably the most helpful for people in terms of rate reduction. But aerobic exercise and strength training are very much synergistic because they give you, by different mechanisms they improve that. Of course the strength training improves your insulin sensitivity. So these things are very helpful. And then sleep, you want to have seven hours, you know, at least an hour and a half of rem. I encourage everyone have a wearable, you can see, make sure your oxygen saturation is at least 94% at night. The claim is 80% of sleep apnea in the United States goes undiagnosed. People, people don't look for it. And it's a common contributor. And then stress, of course is a big one. And then brain training or brain stimulation detox and some targeted supplements like Dr. Gundry's supplements. Yeah, that will, no question these are going to help you. So by the way, we had in the trial one of the patients who, a couple actually of the patients who finished the trial stopped all their supplements. This is from Dr. Kat Tubes, who's done a fabulous job. I really appreciate her fantastic work. She's an outstanding psychiatrist and has been involved in over 100 clinical trials. She gets great results. But a couple of people, when they finished the trial, they stopped them and she said they just went right down. So you can see, yes, these things were doing something. So these things are all, these are the kind of the seven critical pieces that we can all do each day to reverse decline and to prevent decline.
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I have the same thing. You know, taking supplements is often a pain in the neck and take a lot and you take a lot, but. And my patients sometimes get tired of it and they do a self experiment in between visits and they'll go, hey, I want to tell you, you know, I stopped my supplements for two months before I did the blood test because I want to show you that, you know, they're a waste of time. And it's striking.
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Yeah.
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What the changes you actually see and they go, oh my gosh, you know, they don't make expensive urine like I used to think.
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Right. And you know, the. Having optimal supplements is important. You know, I often hear as a neurologist, oh, you know, supplements aren't a cure for Alzheimer's. Of course they're not. We're not claiming they are. What we're saying is that when you have that silver buckshot and when you're, when you're optimistic, optimizing your cognition, they are part of an overall optimal protocol. Of course, some people will need certain ones and others won't, but you can get an idea. Obviously we have a better than ever ability to look between the advanced imaging things like arterial spin labeling, and there's new AI around looking at volumetrics in the brain that can predict who is headed for car cognitive decline. Dr. Cyrus Raji, a professor at WASHU we work with, has done a fabulous job. He's able to show who's headed for what. We can get an idea, as I mentioned, from the biomarkers, things like P Tau217 and then we get an overall idea of all the contributors from homocysteine to HSCRP to your gut. And I think if you look at the things that are missed the most, it's gut health as you talk about, about its oral microbiome, it's sleep apnea. These are the things that are being missed repeatedly that are critical for optimal cognition.
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Seven steps to protect your brain. I could listen to Dr. Brenesen all day. We've thrown a lot at you over these two episodes, but none of it works if you're not present for your own life. Dr. Younger is going to close us out with something I think we all need to hear. The guy who kind of changed everything is Alessio Fazano, a pediatric gastroenterologist. Funny guy, been on a couple panels with. He proved that leaky gut happens. You could measure leaky gut. He proved the mechanisms.
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Yeah. Well, this gastroenterologist, there's studies on necrosis of the endothelial, right? Nec, it's called the premature babies have because they're lacking certain bacteria and certain proteins from amniotic fluid that make the thing mature. Right. I mean, we can go down the rabbit hole and it's fascinating, right? But what I'm bringing into the conversation here is how our state affects that either also. Right.
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All right, let's give the audience a take home message. Give us one hint of, okay, how do we change that state in our life? I mean, in our lives?
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I'll tell you right now, everybody's talking about meditation, right? And there is scientific proof that meditation is incredible for so many reasons, right?
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True.
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But a lot of people find it difficult to do.
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I have a monkey brain, as you can imagine.
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I do, too. And a lot of people, when they do it, they do it. They kind of close the door. They have their meditation room, which sometimes is soundproof, right? And it smells good because they have essential oils and they see and they close it, right? They close their eyes and they repeat a mantra or they put their attention in their breath. But I believe that we need to take meditation into real life, day to day life. And I'll teach you a way to become present. As we speak, we are now talking. You're looking at me. You're basically focusing on me. And your ears are attentive to what I'm saying so that you can process, perceive, then intellectualize, understand, and then come with questions or other examples or whatever it is in this conversation. But what if I ask you right now, as we speak, to do. No, no, keep on looking at me, Keep on looking at me, but go wide angle. Even looking at me, you can see your team, you can see the lights, you can see the microphone, you can see the prop without having to look at it. As we look at each other, you can see. You can see your legs, you can see the walls, you can see everything but what you're used to. You were just looking at me. Now go wide angle and start noticing everything at the same time all the time. And as we speak, not only listen to me, listen to all the noises. I mean, I was hearing some cars passing by, their conditioning. I don't know if you hear it. It's permanent there. So there's noises. So keep on listening to everything and seeing everything. And as we speak, also put some of your attention on your feet and your hands, let's say your hands, right? Now put your attention on your hands. Feel them from inside. Feel the temperature, the humidity, the position. They're touching your pants. You can say, you can tell what material your pants are. All this information you can get from your hands, but keep on doing it. So keep on seeing everything, listening to everything, and feeling. Now, not on your hands, but also your feet, your butt against the chair, your back against the chair. Now keep on doing it. And notice how the state we are in right now is different than the one that we were five minutes ago. Keep on listening to the air conditioning. Keep on seeing everything. Do you see what I mean?
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Yeah. Oh, absolutely.
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But that we can do all day. Now, what that does is this. The things that you can see are always in the present. The things that you can hear are always in the present. Your body and its sensations are always in the present. When you put your attention there, you're anchoring your attention in the present. In certain traditions, they say that attention is like blood flow. It's always flowing. And blood, there's only a certain amount of blood. There's only a certain amount of attention at any given point. And attention, like blood, flows to where there is less resistance. Where is there less resistance? When attention goes into the thinking mind. So how do you experience attention going to your thinking mind as thoughts? Now, we all know by now, or we should know by now, that the thoughts that appear in your head all day long are mostly repetitive and for a lot of people, negative. And they're not voluntary. You don't decide what thoughts are. You know, at times. Yes. If. If I ask you now. Tell me about. You tell me about that. And you bring this. But most of the time it's just happening, right? That's attention flowing to the thinking mind. And the thinking mind is like ethereal. There's no resistance. And when I ask you to. To put your attention on your hand, you have to activate a nerve that goes from here all the way through the brachial nerve through your hands, the end receptors that tell you temperature, humidity, position, right? And come back. So there's electricity running. Electricity, when it runs through a cable, causes heat because of. There is resistance, right? That heat is known now to liberate endorphins. I mean, Eckhart Tolle talks about this, right? But what that does too, is give you a chance, prepares you for that contact with cosmic consciousness or super consciousness, right? And when that happens, healing happens. And I see that when we go to nature and I help people, I tell them how to do this exercise, and we go in nature and we're walking around seeing everything, listening to everything, feeling our body, smelling everything, people start entering to a state that does not happen. When I send people home in the city with a gut repair program, which works amazingly. Right. I've developed a gut repair program. You probably too. Mine has been around since 2011, and it's been. I've been perfecting it. And just like I heard you talk about the super soup of cabbage soup with turmeric and garlic and onion, which all help with LPS and intestinal alkaline phosphatase. Alkaline phosphatase, Right. So. And that is really, really great. This program that I created is in my book Clean Gut. Right? And you can do it as described in the book. And I walk you there through step by step, right? And it has to do with diet, timing. It has to do. Sometimes you need. Most of the times you need supplements, right? Because as opposed to other healing modalities and programs that maybe just eating the right things is fine with gut repair, what I find is without glutamine, without magnesium, it just makes it really, really hard. Right? So I created that program. I described it in the book. I also created a company just like you, in which I curate and formulate my own products. It's cleanprogram.com. you can get the kit. It brings everything that you need. And it's amazing results, Amazing results. But when you go into nature and you learn how to enter more present states, the results that you get in that way, it's way superior than what you can get by prescribing in the city. You see what I mean?
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Yeah. But we don't have to go live in a hut in the Amazon.
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G
You don't have to. We have to return to nature in a way. So how do we return to nature? First of all, we have to get rid of as much as possible of all the exogenous toxins that we're exposed to in the air we breathe, the water we drink and shower with, the medications we consume, 90% of which are just molecules that are not necessary. The active ingredient is only 10% in the cosmetics we apply on our skin, but mostly in the food, like products that we consume as food. In which real foods are only an ingredient. Sometimes, sometimes, sometimes. All the aisles in the supermarket, which is 90% of the real estate of a supermarket. And to be an aisle, a product has to have things that kill bacteria and fungi so that they don't get rotten in the half life. Right. A shelf life. The longer the shelf life, the shorter your life. Right. We need to change this. Okay. No going to live in the Amazon, but we need to bring the Amazon into our lives. And how do you do that? Eat real foods. Take care of the materials you construct, the materials you put on your skin, the products that you wash, your, you know, your sheets and the mattress that you use.
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The tooth. Toothbrush.
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G
Yeah, yeah. Toothpaste, for example. I don't use toothpaste anymore. I use ozonated olive oil. Incredible. It just restores the gums. It takes care of everything. So we had. And it doesn't bring in all the nasty things. You know, some. Some toothpaste. You know, we know why toothpaste makes a.
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A
The foam.
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The foam is because it has foaming, making emollients. Emollients that are. There are toxins and BPAs and I mean, it's insane.
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Now it's time for the question of the week. Question from oddisonearth over on YouTube. On my episode about not eating pumpkin seeds, they asked Dr. Gundry, so what about pumpkin seed oil? Is it a no no as well? Well, yes, it's a no no as well. Sorry about that. Two reasons it does have lectins and number two, it's mostly linoleic acid, which is a short chain omega 6 fat, which is much too prevalent in our diet. So out with the pumpkin seed oil. Sorry. Now it's time for the review of the week. A review from abojoy over on YouTube. On my episode about how to take your supplements, they said, now this video is short, to the point and extremely valuable to me. I really wish the doctors I find in my network would check my blood closely for changes and change the margins for more accurate levels, if that makes sense. For instance, thyroid. I've had symptoms of low thyroid for many, many, many years, but my blood work always comes back as normal. In my 80s, a naturopathic doctor out of network found accuracy. It looks like big pharma or insurance conglomerates want us to be unhealthy and never get to the bottom of our health issues. So thank you for this one, Dr. Gundry. Well, thank you for that review. You know, I've been doing this for over 25 years. Six days a week seeing patients and listening to them. And when they tell me there's an issue or ask me a question that I don't have the answer to, I go looking. And what they've taught me through the years is, you're right. If you have an issue, we should listen and we should be detectives and find the answer. Thanks for writing. Pluto TV has thousands of free movies and TV shows. You swear if I'm lying, I'm dying. This is the mindset.
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Free.
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This is the mantra. Free.
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This is the mindset mindset.
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With movies like Titanic, Dreamgirls and Gladiator,
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why are you not entertained? And TV shows like Survivor, SpongeBob SquarePants,
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the Fairly Odd Parents and Ghosts, Pluto
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TV is always free.
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Huzzah.
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Pluto TV.
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Stream now.
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Payo.
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When I look at all the guests we heard from, the thing that strikes me is that they all agree on one point. Your health is not some distant goal. It's something you build today, right now, with the very next choice you make. Maybe it's a glucose hack from Jesse. Maybe it's putting your phone in another room before bed. Maybe it's holding a door open for someone. Or maybe it's just taking a deep breath through your nose. Doing 400 of anything is not an easy feat, especially a podcast. It's hours and hours of behind the scenes coordination, from guest bookings to editing. So I want to take this time to recognize the incredible team that that puts this show together each and every week. Thank you to our fantastic producing team of Lainey Neal, JC Ray, Nicole Hong, and Zachary Stein. And our very talented crew. Far too many to name, but they all know who they are. I'm looking at you guys. Thank you for our editors and thanks to our friends and the crew at Podcast One. Kathy Langley, Alice Drake Walford, and Eli Dvorkin. And last but not least, thank you the incredibly engaged audience that shows up every single week, that challenges me, that asks the most amazing questions. I do this because I love it and because you deserve to have the latest science backed research at your fingertips free of charge to help you live the longest, healthiest life life possible for the 400th time and many more to come. I'm Dr. Gundry and I'm always looking out for you.
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Are you really buying a car online
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on Autotrader right now? Really? I can get super specific with dealer listings and see cars based on my budget.
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You can really have it delivered or pick it up.
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Mommy's walk. I think kid is walking up the slide.
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Really?
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Autotrader, buy your car online.
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You know what I realized the hardest part about building a website isn't making
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it look good, it's getting what's in
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my head onto the page.
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But I've been playing with the new
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WIX Harmony editor and I'm impressed. You can literally just tell it what you want or if you're picky like me, jump in and move things around yourself. The nice part is you can hop between AI and hands on editing so you end up with a site that actually looks the way you pictured it. Try it out for free@wix.com Harmony.