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I was in a signing line in Los Angeles. Some woman leans over on the table.
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Where I'm signing her book, and she said, hey, real quick, is marriage today still worth it? I looked at her and said, what is the thing inside of you that says, I'm going to commit myself to somebody for the rest of our lives.
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Till death does part is. It makes me emotional to say it.
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What's going on?
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What's going on? This is John with the Dr. John DeLoney Show. I'm so glad that you pulled up a seat to hang out with us today.
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A few weeks ago, I got a.
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Text message from a great friend of mine.
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He had just walked off the stage.
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After doing the Tonight show as a. He's a comedian. Walked off stage.
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And if you are a comedian and.
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You get to do the Tonight show, it's kind of the pinnacle, right? It's the. It's the place where you can exhale and say, I've made it. And he sent me a text that was so powerful and so profound. I was like, hey, I want to have this conversation where others can listen in on it.
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I've had him on this show before.
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I'm talking about my good friend John Crist, and he just got engaged. He went through a whole lot.
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And we've talked about in a previous.
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Show his recovery journey, what it's like going to rehab. It's like reconnecting with your family and.
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Your friends, and this time we dive.
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A little bit deeper.
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But I want to talk about two.
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Things that are really important to me right now. What does it look like? What is an actual journey of redemption?
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I get so many calls on my.
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Show about this happened.
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I did this thing. I got caught doing this thing, and I don't have a path back. And.
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And so I brought John on to talk honestly.
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And I think comedians are the last truth tellers we got. Can you come back and talk about.
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This journey of redemption and what it was like?
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Well, I'm not going to blow it.
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Because the conversation's awesome.
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And he's a guy who's quote, unquote, made it. He sells out theaters all over the country, and he just asked somebody to.
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Marry him and his. His fiance. She's awesome. She's amazing.
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But I just wanted to talk through. Why, why, why are we getting married? Why do we still have that longing.
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To connect with somebody and go ride or die until death do us part?
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So I'm so glad you're here. Pour extra queso over the nachos and.
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Listen to my Conversation with my great friend John Crist. There was a huge global announcement recently on this massive engagement.
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Oh, yeah.
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Just happened to be the day after yours.
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Oh, that sucks. Oh, my. I. We got. We announced our engagement then. Taylor Swift. Yeah, I think I can handle that. You've been able to sleep well. I. Yes, number one. I. It's funny. Yeah, I think it's fine. I didn't take any. I didn't take any ego hit from that. So.
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Answer.
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I want to dig into this question because it haunts me.
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Two years ago, I was in a signing line in Los Angeles.
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Yeah.
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And you know this.
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Like, you can get into a signing.
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Line or handshake in line, and there's a. I don't know how to say.
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It other than there's a gloss that comes over you.
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You. You're shaking hands. Thank you. Appreciate it. And then the next person. And then you got a handler running everybody through, and you sign the thing in the next.
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Right.
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And you're trying to, like, have a personal moment, but it's three seconds or five seconds and it goes on. Some woman leans over on the table.
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Where I'm signing her book, and she said, hey, real quick. And for me, that can be like.
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Hey, I've been cheating on my husband, and. Or I'm thinking of man.
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They don't say that at mine.
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Well, they might be like, hey, I.
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Don'T think a Christian should have said anyway.
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Oh, maybe. Who knows?
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She said, hey, real quick. She said, is a marriage still worth it? And I immediately have a default.
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You know, me and my wife.
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And she stopped me and she goes.
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No, no, I know it worked out for y'.
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All.
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Is marriage today still worth it? And it broke that. It just shattered that little facade. And I looked at her and said, I think so. But I didn't have data. I didn't have, like, the. I couldn't just rattle off the tax.
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Advantages and the this and the.
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I'm sure your wife wouldn't appreciate that if you went to tax advantages first.
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I can't just give you a list.
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Of why this is a great idea.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Other than it's worked out awesome for me. Sure.
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And I think it holds civilization together.
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But other than those two things. Right. And so I get haunted by questions.
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And so the last two years, it's just been an obsession.
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And the last remaining.
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I've got all the answers to those questions now. The last remaining thing that I can't firmly grasp is, why is Jeff Bezos getting remarried?
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I can't wrap My head around it.
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Why?
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Yeah.
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And then if I distill down because just a rung or two below him is you.
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Yeah. Is one or two.
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One or two.
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I mean, bank accounts are similar, but he's a little bit more popular.
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Like, you've got the success getting remarried. You've got this house.
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Yeah.
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You've got a nice car.
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Not me. You got you.
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I'm talking about you now.
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Oh, yeah.
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You have a very successful career.
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Okay.
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What is the thing inside of you that says I'm gonna pause and I'm going to commit myself to somebody for the rest of our lives? Till death do us part?
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What is that?
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Inner engine.
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Yeah, I think, I mean, you'll see. You see, I think all my buddies that have gone ahead of me. I'm 41, all my buddies are. Have kids that are to be in high school. Yeah. About to be in high school. And you go, man, they all have said to me, they go, dude, all of this employee of the year, jobs, raises. He goes, I want to be hanging out with my wife. I want to be at my kids games. This is all. And I think in, in terms of success, you go, well, this, this can't be it.
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Like, for what?
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Yeah, yeah. And obviously Lydia, I mean, dude, dude, I. I told somebody, I was like, I don't know, I want to go hang out with Lydia. What's she doing? What's she doing?
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Right?
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I want to go hang with her. And then if I. Outside of that, I think for myself personally, I go, dude, imagine if I. I mean, I got some big news positive in my career yesterday. All I, all I wanted to do is go tell her.
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Tell her.
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Yeah, yeah, dude. Then you go, well, and, and, and we've also gotten horrific news.
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Yeah.
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About family, about health, about. And you just go, well, same. Still want to tell her still. When I get sad, I still want to go. And that, I mean, what, what, what is Jeff Bay And I. And hopefully I've done the same for her, by the way. I think I have. But like, what, what is Jeff Bezos financial. You know, what, what is it? What's his. What's his future without it?
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Oh, that's actually the opposite question.
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What's his future?
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How do you do that?
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Yeah.
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So you go, hey, Amazon doubled. Amazon tripled. Amazon 10X. We went to the moon. We. All right.
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And you're on a bigger boat by yourself.
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Yeah. So I think everybody goes, well, look, let's, let's. I mean Dave talks about this all the time. Let's play this Out. Let's play this. Let's play this.
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You're 84 years old. You're hooked up to a bunch of machines, and you.
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And you got a lot of credits that you've been on the Tonight Show a couple times.
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Yeah.
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Or that.
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I don't think. I don't think that's in. I don't even think that's a Christian principle. That's just a human.
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Human principle.
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Yeah. Yeah. That if you're sitting, you go, well, I don't want to do this by myself.
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Yeah.
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I've been sober for coming up on six years. But I, I like you found. You go. Oh, that was. That was a part of my past and that would do it. I don't. I don't. Like I found a better way.
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Yeah.
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Or like that. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, Yeah. I kind of. I like when you. Whatever the Bible verse is. When I was a child, I behaved like a child, and then I became a man. Yeah. I don't think I've. I've ever felt. I've done some challenging things in my career and. And I've never felt more like I, I thought. I. I thought. And maybe. Maybe this is from culture or society. I thought I was gonna feel like. Is it makes me emotional to say I thought I was gonna feel like a beta getting on one knee.
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Oh, no. It's the most powerful position in the world.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And I. I'm not. I don't. I don't even know what that mean. I thought that's how I would feel.
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Yeah.
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Like a. Like, I don't know, like some kind of simp.
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Some kind of wimp.
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Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah.
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And. And I don't know where I got that idea. I don't know.
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Oh, it's.
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It's.
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I don't know where.
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It's this idea that, like, leadership had a household all.
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And that stuff's been so bastardized and ruined.
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But, like, it means being at the top and everybody's underneath.
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Bow to. It's not bow. But what asking on one knee.
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Yeah. But when you realize it's like, oh, no, no, no. Leadership is getting underneath the whole thing.
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And saying, like, you.
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You can. You can build this on me.
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Yeah.
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Like you can build.
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I never felt like more of a man. And I don't even know if. If people are going to listen to this and even makes. I'm sure they will. I'm sure a guy, a man that has been in a similar scenario would.
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What. What are things you're doing You've, like.
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You'Re, you're, you're gang. You're. The guys that you've run with for the last 15, 20 years have gone ahead of you.
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What are the things you're going to.
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Do right now to be the best husband you can be out of the gate?
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Ooh, interesting. Well, I think I have. It's, it's really. I think a lot of people around me have encouraged me that they're like, hey, this is. Maybe they haven't like, verbally encouraged, but you just like, hey, you go to the, their. What are you doing this weekend? I'm going to my kids games, dude. That's what I'm doing. I'm not going to, I'm not going to Georgia, lsu, dude, or what? No disrespect, it's a big game. It's a big, It'll probably be a big game this year, but if they're playing each other, but they go, that doesn't. I think there's so many good models around me that have, have gone before me that you were like, hey, this is. And I, and I think we have a lot of the friends that we have that have walked with us through everything. They're. They've been so helpful because they go. Sometimes we go, me or her be, hey, this is a big deal. And they ahead of us, they go, that's not a big deal. Or we go, this is. And they go, hey, that's actually a bigger deal than you think. And you can have both of these. We're obviously best friends, but we have these. Both have these. She'll go to her friends and they go, hey, they. It sounded like they said I was overreacting to that a little bit.
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I don't think so.
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But they.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or I'll go to my friends. And I was like, hey, I just want to, I just want to apologize for that. And I, I feel like again, we're in very early, so like, we. I, I had a joke about how now that I've been engaged for a week, I can write a Christian, A Christian marriage book. Yeah. Because as soon as, as soon as any, any, any public figure in Christianity gets married, they're like, this is how you do it. I have no idea the number of.
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People, dude, who've reached out and been.
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Like, hey, I cheated on my wife 42 times, but we, like, made it. And so now we going to write.
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A marriage book and we're going to start a marriage ministry.
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Like, you probably shouldn't.
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You should Write that book.
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You survived.
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Great.
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The thing that has been maybe the.
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Most devastating thing for me watching the social media world explode is it has proliferated this idea of advice.
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Yeah. And where talked about this on our podcast yesterday.
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Where is like, it's advice, advice, advice. What's the four steps? What's the attachment theory? What's the, like all of this stuff. What's your enneagram number? Like every, there's all these programs.
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Yeah.
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All this advice, advice, advice.
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Yeah.
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And the only thing, it's kind of like when you lose everything.
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Yeah.
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You get this re. You get, you set reality.
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Like, oh, didn't kill me. I still got my birthday.
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Yeah, right.
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Because I got your birthday.
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When, like when I'm sitting with somebody whose kid just passed away.
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Yeah.
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There's no vice, there's no four step plan.
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There shouldn't be. And, and they don't want any, just want any presence. It's just showing off. Yeah.
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And that's.
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That to me is man, you sit with somebody who's been NAA for years.
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And you sit with somebody who's been a sponsor.
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Yeah.
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Those often make some of the most amazing therapists because they have a BS detector. That's remarkable.
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They're not.
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Yeah. But also they have a lie detector. That's amazing. But they also have a. I mean, I'm just here, I'm here with you.
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Anybody I, I, anybody who you're driving and they're at the intersection and it goes, take my course, Flip Homes. I'll teach you how to make a million dollars a year. Like, why aren't you doing it?
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Yeah, go make a million dollars.
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Why did you write on, by the way, with a sharpie on a steak that you bought at Home Depot. Why, why wouldn't you. I. If I knew how to make a million dollars a month, I would not tell anyone, bro. I would not tell. If I was flipping homes in Nashville and had tips and tricks to do, I would not tell anyone.
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There's a great comic who had a doing it. There was a sign on the side.
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Of the road that said, call this.
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Number and ask me how I lost weight.
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So he calls it and the guy goes, diet and exercise.
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Yeah.
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He's like, thanks, man. Yeah, perfect.
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Perfect. What you even tell, like. And you, you wouldn't tell you, you. There's a lot of, like, anybody that has a. Unfortunately in comedy, the people in bad marriages, you hear a lot about it. You hear a lot about those, those voices are very loud on Tick Tock. Those voices are very loud here's the five signs that your husband's a narcissist. Like, dude. And then these three things prove she's cheating on you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were like, dude, I saw a tick tock the other day. It was like, go home. Go hug your boyfriend. Go there. There is a good guy. And when you're sad, that guy brings you a cup of coffee. Cling to that. Like, yes. Like, they. If. If somebody. If somebody has a good. If you're trying to start. Start a business, you're like, hey, dude, find the guy at church.
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It.
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I feel like you got. That guy's not teaching a course because he's running his business.
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He's running a business.
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Yeah, I'm not any. There's like a trope. Anybody that's teaching a comedy class has never. But everybody knows that you're like, well, if you're teaching a comedy class and you can like, go. Go find the comic that's selling out and go, hey, help me how to do it. Everybody that has a good marriage at your. They're not saying anything.
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Right?
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They're like.
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Because they're busy being married.
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Well, they're like, I'm lucky to. I got a great. A lot of. All you hear is got a. Got a great spouse.
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Yeah. Married.
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Well, we've worked through some things.
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Yep.
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Dude, the Tonight show set could not have gone better.
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It's perfect.
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Yeah, it was. It was next to near perfect. Okay, so the. The last joke is. I'm talking about if you. That my girlfriend goes, some. One of her friends did a 360 and she's turned her life around. I go, I think you meant 180. Yeah. That's the joke. Right? So. And I've practiced this bit in preparation for tonight. Joke. I want to say 50 times, maybe more. Where. And the closer she goes, it's 180. And I go, it's. You meant 360. And I go, look, babe. And I do a full 360. Okay. I do a full 360 and then it gets a chuckle. And then I go. And that's the last time we talked. Boom.
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Right? Right.
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That 50 times out of 50 chuckle. Boom. When I did the Tonight Show, I did. Babe, look. Did the full 360. It got such a no words, by the way. Got such a huge applause break. I should have been like, John, Chris. And I go. And that's last time we talk got less of a laugh because the. Because the 360 was so big. And it again, could not have gone better. And there'd be no next to no possible way to to live on my late night debut to cut out my closer. But I should have or that's what I thought when I left. Yeah. And, and it's that that insatiable. I go, God, but I, I, I gotta be. You know could not have gone. The only reason it's both the only. It went so good that if I get. I just would have made no one in the history of late night would ever close like that on a non verbal right. Would have been. But I give myself grace. But I also go. I mean there's no way to I could have rehearsed that.
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Right.
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But. But that's. That to me is being well which is yeah, I'm not going to beat myself up. I'm gonna see in the future.
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I'll put that in my pocket and.
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But I'm not a failure. I'm not a loser.
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I didn't blow it. I can, I can, I can accept this moment.
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Go back and watch it. If anybody listening go watch it and go. But if I would have just certain huge laugh.
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Yeah.
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That's when I watched it the first.
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Thing I was like, I blew that in.
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Nobody thought. But yeah, I bet everybody, every football player watching game film or every contract you sign or the books you, the books you write. You wrote a book a year ago to rewrite them all. Well at the time but I don't. Yeah. Yeah.
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But my Selfworth isn't in that.
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It's in my wife loves me when I get home, my kids are happy.
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They.
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When I walk in the front door. And that's years of work, man. Which is awesome.
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Somebody asked me on my Instagram story the other day if I ever regretted a joke. I go every day.
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What do you mean?
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Yeah, obviously, dude. What you mean? Like if you like I wouldn't tell it now. I told it then and that's the like you're like, well look at this joke. I was like, yeah, but Kevin Hart said that one time about he was trying to be canceled for something and he's like, yeah, I made that joke. I don't make it now.
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Right.
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Isn't that progress?
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That's what, that's what we're doing.
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Progressive. That's what we're doing.
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The foremost important words in the world.
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I think that tell me someone's wise is I change my mind.
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Like I don't think that anymore. Yeah, I used to. Yeah. Yeah. And then I met him. Yeah. All right. I used to think that.
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Convinced that everybody at some level needs some sort of.
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Whether you go to meetings or whether.
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You incorporate those principles, this idea of just taking a knee to something bigger than yourself, this idea of saying, I'm going to be happy with today and then we get up tomorrow, I'm gonna go again. My marriage is great today.
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I'm gonna get up in the morning.
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Before my wife and I'm gonna go do another thing. All right.
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Whatever those.
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Those steps are. We have a culture that I think everyone is struggling with some sort of addiction and some sort of Xanax, which is. It could be work.
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Now. What is Xanax? A painkiller.
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It's a, it's a antidepressant.
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But, like some way to numb out.
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Yeah.
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To our body's innate alarms to say, like, yep, I'm scared. I don't want to deal with that. I can't deal with that. Right.
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It's too much.
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Whether it's work, whether it is actual alcohol, whether it's pornography, whether it's what? Down, down the list do you have a couple of things you could tell a mom or a dad or a friend about if they've got some in their life that is struggling with something they are ultimately powerless to kill or them. Yeah.
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What are, what, what does someone who's in the throes of it.
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I, you know what's funny is I have a joke in my show now about, about chat GPT. You're like, you feel so close with it. You say like, dude, my buddies is struggling with balding. Like, what should I tell him? He's like, dude. Because you feel like you're so close to them. You mean you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, what should I tell my. Yeah, I would say so when I was in, when I was in treatment.
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Or take me to 2017, 2018, people probably try to talk to you a little.
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Oh, I would say all the time. And I would say, well, I would say to the person that is. If you have a friend that is struggling, that is in the darkness, just be. Just be the person that when it all comes undone, that they call you.
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That's it.
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Yeah, they don't. They don't need an article about how alcohol is the daily Bible verse.
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They know.
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They don't need to. That those that struggling are in unhappiness at their jobs, more likely to self destruct. They know. They know. Everybody. I could be wrong about that. From my experience, everybody knows that. They know that, hey, this relationship is not healthy. They know I could be wrong about that, but they know.
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But then there's also that voice we talked about the beginning, which is like.
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But I can't lose this.
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But.
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Yeah, but I can't lose this job.
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I can't lose this relationship. I can't lose.
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Or that. And so when I, When I was, When I went to rehab, the worst thing. And a lot of people say I went to. Went to treatment and there was, you know, we played video games and there was hot tubs there. And there I go. That's not rehab. And any. Like, this place was in the middle of the desert. I may have talked to you about this before. There's no. Obviously no cell phones. There's no, there's no screens of any sort of. There's no drugs, there's no alcohol. There's no sugar, there's no caffeine. There's no fiction books. There's no. And even if you get a runner's high from working out, they don't let you do that. So there's no.
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That's a real Place, by the way, that's a real.
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It's a real place.
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It's not one of these Malibu resorts. That's a real.
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It's called the Meadows because people are going to DM me all the time. Bridge.
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There's a Meadows.
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It's a real place. And let me tell you, it is horrific. It's not fun. It's not a retreat. It's horrific. Yeah, it is horrific. And they take everything. Any kind of.
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All the Xanax is away. Yes.
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Any kind of escape. Now, if you, if you're. If you own prescriptions, they'll look at it and maybe adjust it for you. But even they're like, there's no anything. So. And that will. That. And I. And I. After 45 days in there, I would go, dude, if I could ever sink my teeth into a Chick Fil a sandwich, it would be unbelievable. If I could ever take my nephew to the park, it would be on. But. And those things all do reset.
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Yeah.
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All after a time with 30, 45 days.
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That's what.
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Maybe. Yeah. And I needed another two months at another place to really solidify. But I am sober.
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I was on the honors program.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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They kept me longer. You need to stay longer. But I would say there is. There is in therapy that I've. I've done since. That. There is. If you're doing like a planned detachment, that's fine. It's all. It's. It's like, hey, I'm gonna go. I. I've had exhausting day with the kids. I'm gonna go watch an hour of trashy television. Just as long as we're admitting that is. Yeah. Yeah. That you're. Or hey, I'm gonna go to the batting cages. Or I'm gonna go. As long as it's not self destructive. That is. Okay.
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Yeah. I'm hiding.
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You're not hiding.
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No. Hey, I've had a stressful day. I'm gonna have a glass of wine.
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Right.
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As long as it's with. With it. I think a lot of times, especially in Christianity, it's like, no, nothing. And you're like, all right, well, that's a. Everybody's going somewhere.
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Then the.
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Nothing becomes a drug.
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Yeah, I told my. I told Lydia, actually, I talked to Dave about this and he's like, so many people have come in that they say on. It's popular now because it's football season, sports betting, and people have lost hundreds of thousands. It's on your phone. And I. And I do it. I do it and I Said I go, lydia, here. Here is my DraftKings.
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Yeah.
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I go, I put in January, I put a thousand dollars in this account. And it's like at 1100, like, it's kind of embarrassing because that money, that time should be spent building a business or in. But it is. She goes, okay, yeah, okay.
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Yeah.
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And her the same, by the way. It's like, it's not detachment, whatever it's called.
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I always said, I don't want everyone. I don't ever want to fall off a wagon, but I don't mind parking the wagon and crawling down and rolling around in the mud. And then I'm going hose off and get back on the way.
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If they say, hey, you going to go down there for 30 minutes and then we going to hose off and go, all right, I'm in. Yeah. I think there's a lot of, A lot of. In Christianity, it's like, wipe everything from your. Well, I don't know. Does that person. I used to, like, drink in secret? Yeah. I was on FaceTime with a friend, and I would go off camera, take shots. That's.
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And Jesus was called the drunkard. They made fun of him. Look who you're hanging out with.
C
Yeah. Or just like, if you're saying, hey, I, I. After, like a show on the road, I will like, have such a high. You're like, I put like a hundred bucks on, like, the West Coast NBA game. And like. And like doordash some Taco Bell.
B
Yeah.
A
Right.
C
And that is. I don't, I'm not the most proud of it.
B
Right.
C
But I'm not doing it in secret.
B
Right.
C
And it's not.
B
You're not doing it to mask anything.
C
I'm. I'm doing it to cope a little, to come down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
A
Or to just to veg.
C
Yeah. But I'm a human. But also, there's no, there's nobody that is, is not aware. I think all the whole crew is there and we're. Yeah, it's. It's not what. I'll say it this way. It's not. If I, if I was teaching a class, I wouldn't say I was doing that.
B
Right.
C
But.
A
But here's the thing. I think that's another.
B
That's another huge addiction, our culture, which is you can't rest, you can't laugh.
A
You can't put your shoulders down, can't.
C
Detach, you can't look at the grass. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
Like, and I don't know anybody who doesn't have some sort of dude, let's just go.
A
Or what do you.
C
When it. When it all. When it all comes undone, when you had a horrific day at work, when the kids are. When you. I've gotten bad news. What do you want to do? Right? You're like, all right, well, I do. I. I say this honestly. I do not want to drink. Right? I don't. I. I. What. I've. I'm. I want to go be alone, and I want to isolate myself, and I probably want to eat sometimes, and I wanna. Yeah. You're like, all right, well, because you're being honest about that. You're like, all right, well, then you go, yeah, I probably was like, dude, you need to get. I need to go down to the comedy club. You're like, hey. Lydia would be like, hey, dude, you need to go down there and get some, like, attention. And you feel like you're the king. I'm the king. When I walk in there, then everybody's like, dude, you go up whenever you want. They have, like, my. My order memorized, and if I come late in the show, they have it, like, waiting for me. And you're like, dude, I feel. You're like, that's a good feeling.
B
That's right.
C
Just say that. That's a good feeling, and then we can all be like, all right, see you in the morning. That's fine. Right?
B
Right?
C
Or like, yeah, whatever.
A
It's intentionality.
C
It's same with everybody. That's a. That's a. A workaholic, which I can be guilty of doing, too. You're God in there, right? And maybe in your personal life, it's not going well. So I just say, hey, I'm gonna be honest with you. Whenever I go in there, everybody needs me, everybody wants me. I. I'm. I'm. I feel like I'm the man in there. So I. And I feel like this might not be going well. I probably shouldn't, but I. I've. I've defaulted to spending a little bit more of my time in there. I imagine any other human right, would.
B
Be like, it's where everybody finds himself.
C
They go, yeah, if that's not your addiction. They go, well, I don't do that.
B
But, yeah, but it's.
A
It's. To me, if. If it's of importance, if I realize, like my wife told me the other.
B
Day, she's like, hey, just as your. As your wife, going on the comedy clubs, it's your new drug. I did this with an MMA gym like, 20 years ago. She's like, you just Kind of moved.
A
In and she's like, it's your new drug. She goes, I don't mind it. It's cool.
B
I just need you to know. I see an addict and I'm like, all right, cool. But it's kind of awesome.
C
Can I. Yeah, but.
B
But it's.
A
It's.
B
It's a, calling it out. And B, she's. She goes to bed at 5:45pm yeah, whatever. So.
C
But the bigger you're in, A, you're like, hey, I'm not losing my job. The kids have school clothes. Everybody's taken care of. I'm. We're going to make sure they go, yeah, go for it.
A
But also, there was a season about.
B
Two or three months ago when it was coming at the expense of.
C
Right. Yeah.
A
Fair and so. And then it's like, yeah, you know what? She's more important.
C
Yeah.
B
We're going to come back here.
C
Right? Yeah.
A
But I do love circling back and then we'll close up. I love that wisdom. If you're with somebody who's really struggling, I think there's something important about saying.
B
Hey, I see that you're not okay.
C
Yeah.
B
And then I'm gonna continue to tell you I love you and I'm here when this. In the ash. I'll be there because this ends in ash.
C
And.
B
And.
A
But like the, the secret pamphlets or the.
B
What?
C
Yeah, I was. I was. My buddy and this before I got the Tonight show, but he called me and he goes, hey, dude, I got some. I got some news. We lost a child. It was a. They had a miscarriage.
B
Yeah.
C
And wages were like, dang. And I. And I. I told Lydia, like, after. I was like, I was. Dude, I told him this actually recently. I go, did you have any idea how honored I was to get that call?
B
So.
C
And he. He told me from his mouth that he called other people close. And they. And they. They couldn't hold it. They were like, here's the statistics. That happens all the time. Or they. And so he, in his darkest, he scrolled through Brighton scroll. But he goes, this guy.
B
Yeah. Could.
C
And he's been with me through tremendous sadness. Tremendous. And. And we've. We have a relationship together. So you go, I wonder why. I guess that would be my advice. Try to become that friend.
B
So when it comes down, why did he call me? I'm gonna call you.
C
And he knew he was in his darkest day and he. I wouldn't be like, oh, doesn't that happen all the time? Or. And then. And then I. Same guy. Got to tonight's show, and I go, like, I texted you. I called some other people. I FaceTimed my parents in the pecking. Well, I called you before I happened because I was proud. And I went to his house. Yeah, I went to his house and I knocked on his door and I go, dude, I got the Tonight Show.
B
Yeah, that's it.
C
And I go, what. What are we doing? Yeah. If we're not doing that.
B
Yeah.
C
What. What are we here for? That's love on that.
B
We're gonna. We're gonna hold the bad stuff, and we're gonna hold the good stuff.
C
Yeah, both.
A
And they don't cancel each other out.
C
Yeah.
B
Well, dude, I want to tell you, congratulations. It's awesome.
C
Thank you, man.
B
That's that thinking about closing that door in 2019 to you walking out into downtown New York in 2025. It's.
C
I wish everybody could. I feel horrific, but I wish proud.
B
Is not the right word. I'm so proud of you. That's awesome.
A
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H-E-L-P.com DeLoney, I'm gonna be very judicious, but I want to read a text you sent me.
C
All right?
B
Okay. And right when you sent this, I was like, I need to have you back in a couple weeks and talk through it. So you sent me a picture of you with that Tonight Show.
C
Okay. All right. Yeah, yeah.
B
And I was like, you're one of, like, the guys I just root for. And it's like, so, like, so house. Like, so happy. I was by myself, like, when I got this, and I was just so happy. And then you text this. I just said, congratulations, and yada, yada. And you said I was legit marked for dead in 2019. Laying on a bed in rehab.
C
Yeah.
B
And I thought, from 2019 to here.
C
Yeah.
B
Six years take me back to laying in bed.
A
And, you know, that first night for people who don't know in rehab, like, that first night, like, it's.
B
It's like being a college freshman.
C
Like, I was gonna compare it to Shawshank, but mentally, maybe.
A
Did you have a roommate?
C
Let's see. Not the first night. No. The first night, you're, like, in the morning, like, an acute. Like. And then you as you.
B
Oh, so you got detox, as you.
C
No, no, no. But, like, you go in, and they're like, you got to be monitored 24 7. And then, like, they take. Like, when you first walk in. I don't know if I said this last time, but they take away, like, your belt, your shoelaces, because people come in there, like, suicidal.
B
Oh, so you weren't. Okay, you didn't.
C
I mean, I. I. I was not. I. I don't want to make a bigger deal. I mean, I wasn't good. Yeah, I wasn't. I wasn't good. Yeah. But they. They. They take away, like, I. For me, I always joke that they took away my hair gel because there's, like, alcohol in, like, any possible escape.
B
Yes.
C
Your look. So they take it. But then obviously, after, like, a couple hours, they're like, oh, you can go. You're good here. You can go to the other.
A
And so I think back to, like, my first year in a dorm as a freshman.
C
Yeah.
B
I don't know. This guy. Random roommate from Kansas.
C
Yeah.
A
I'm trying not to breathe too loud. Trying to, like, be cool.
C
Hell, yeah.
B
And so I'm thinking, like, all right, you're back in that room.
C
Yep. I remember everything about it. Tell me I mean, I had a. I was like, it's kind of like out of. Out of body a little bit that you're like, I can't believe I'm here. I mean, there was a guy that came in the day after me that they. He. They found out that he was cheating on his wife or something. He was a pastor, and they. They. He was. He. He was at church working. They pulled up with a bag packed for him. They said, if you get in this car. Right. We know about everything. If you get in this car right now, we'll pay for your treatment. And so he showed up in his khakis, tucked in.
A
Oh, man.
C
Like, imagine the.
B
Yeah, yeah.
C
You know?
A
Yeah, yeah.
C
He was like, I don't even know.
B
Like, what just happened.
C
Yeah, yeah. You're just, like, out of your. And then it's. I think it's. Slowly sinks in. I don't know. Maybe. I mean, I. If I was marked for dead, it was. It was. I marked myself for that.
B
Of course.
C
Of course.
A
Yeah.
C
Everybody else is like, yeah, but, I mean, you.
B
You have to be thinking, like, all right, so this part of my life. So this. This part.
C
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
B
So, yeah, it's over. I'm gonna be an Arby's manager.
A
Like, walk me through that.
C
Oh, worse, dude. I. I mean. And no disrespect. No disrespect to anybody that works at Arby's. Yeah, I think that. I think the.
A
I'm gonna start a lawn business.
C
Yeah. Let me think. If I. If I. I thought I was gonna lose all my money, all my every. I mean, everything. Everything. I didn't. I was like, maybe I'll go live with my parents or something.
B
Yeah.
C
I have no idea. I mean, you just have no. It's all upside down, and you're like, well, this is the path I was on. Now I'm. I always. I would cry. I think I would be sad because I was like, maybe I can't afford to. Like, I don't know. I thought I couldn't afford to get married. I had no girlfriend or. No. But I was like, I can't. I couldn't get. I have no future. I have nothing, dude. I have nothing. Louis CK said that all that all I have left is my birthday.
B
Oh, that's a good lie.
C
And he got canceled.
B
Yeah.
C
All I have left is my birthday. Everything else is. They or they don't. They will not stop until they take everything. All I have is my birthday.
A
And so one of those common calls.
B
I get one of the most common, like, hey, Dylan, we need you to.
A
Come over to our house.
C
I didn't have my phone, but I would have let me have my phone, but. Yeah, but the number of people who.
B
Get to the place.
C
Yeah.
B
I found out my husband cheated on me. I found out my kids got X, Y, or Z. I just lost my job. AI is about to take my. Whatever.
A
It's that sense that you play the, you play the future out all the.
B
Way and it's all over.
A
And then.
B
I tune in to watch, and I know that's delayed. And I'm sitting there cheering in my, like, house by myself. Like, cheering. And then you walk out of the Tonight show six years later.
C
Yeah.
B
Which is the pin. I mean, it's the pinnacle. If you grew up on, like, Carson. That's it. That's it is what it is. Walk me to that, that moment.
C
I mean, so I, I, I was sitting in. So you, you. The only way forward. I think I had to get to a place is, like, because I had a book deal. I was going to be on the Late show with James Corden and.
B
Yeah.
C
And a Netflix special that we're all about to come out. All gone. The only way forward. And I tell other people. This is all I think of. You've actually said this on your, like, it's over. Like, you're.
A
Four months is over.
C
It's over. So you can't be, like, reaching back out to the publisher. Hey, are we still.
B
It's over.
C
It's over. It's all over. And I'm actually having lunch with a guy tomorrow. That very similar situation. It's over. Hey, what about the tour? It's over. It's. And if you can get there, then you can, you can start to. I don't, I wouldn't even say rebuild. You build.
B
Start.
C
Not re.
B
But start.
C
But I knew I could still tell jokes. And so then I was like, well, I'll start. I mean, I didn't even know if I could ever do comedy again. I think I was just catastrophizing things in my mind. Obviously, you're.
A
But I mean, it's real, though.
C
Yeah, dude. It's not. Yeah.
A
It's like a Netflix deal and a book deal. Like, all these things that people. Everyone's sitting at home saying, that'd be so cool if.
C
Yeah, you had that.
B
And then it's gone.
C
Yeah. And now all. Well, the. I'm sitting in my. I mean, the Tonight show has been such a, such a.
A
That'S got to be equally out of body.
C
No, did more out of body. Did more out of body. I've gotten all those things back X times a thousand. Yeah. But I go, like, I was sitting in my. I mean, we. For. To do the Tonight Show. You. You. A. First of all, to get on their radar is you have to walk 15. Not 15 years, but a long time. They go, oh, we know who you are. Okay, we're going to send a video. We're gonna send a five minutes. Ah, we don't like it. Change this video. We said, all right, well, they responded. Okay, we'll change this part. Move this around. Switch the opener to this, which actually, they don't like those. When you're talking about your family too much, maybe switch it to more. Switch it to this. And then you go. They're. They're back and forth. I'm talking about years, dude. Years. And then you go back. And I'm going down to Zany's every Monday night when I'm off tour. I do a tour all weekend. And then Monday night, I'm going down to say, needs to try to perfect this five minutes. And the last time, Tristan, the guy that films down there, and we were going back and forth and mixing jokes and. And I go, man, I'm so tired. And I got. I'm doing five, six hours in the weekend. I can't afford to spend my Monday nights coming down here. I got to be off. I got to be. And I go, and we've been so many times, dude. And I go, I told this to my girlfriend now fiance. I go, if. If this. If this one doesn't. If they don't like this one, I think I'm. I think I'm done.
B
Yeah.
C
I'm done trying to pursue that. I'm just gonna say, hey, it's not for me. I'm gonna go in a different direction. I'm sitting at my kitchen. I mean, there's like, five moments in my comedy career that I'll. I'll never forget that while sitting at my counter. And I got an email from my. From my manager, and he's like, they've confirmed June 16th for the tonight Show. And you're like, I mean, I was balling, dude.
B
Yeah, ball like, dude.
C
I was just sitting there like. And I think. I think. I don't know. I don't think this. If I would have it. If I would have gotten that, I. I. It wouldn't have meant as much.
B
Yeah.
C
Or wouldn't I? I was just. I, like, well, you know, it's weird because I texted you about it, but I. I wrote a story in my book about. I think if I told it in here. I don't remember when I got on TV for the first time. I got on TV for the first time. I was on Live at Gotham on, like, Comedy Central. Yeah. Yeah. 15, 10 years ago. I'll never forget this. I called my parents to, like, tell them, and they go, we don't have that channel.
B
Yeah.
C
And it was just. I've told that story before. It was just so devastating. I was like, they're gonna rent a projector, put it up in the backyard, invite the whole neighborhood, have a huge. I just had in my mind that that was going to be what they did. And they go, we don't have that channel. And it was devastating. I've told that story before, but I think now I, I mean, I told you. Yeah, I told. I told. Obviously I told my parents called my parents, the airballing, called all. Everybody. That's important to me. And I go, I go, if they, if you, if you didn't respond to that, that's fine. I would. I.
A
Because it's for you.
C
I didn't do it for any. It wasn't for. It wasn't for attention on the Internet. Everybody's like, what. How much did it pay? How many followers did you get from it? Is Jimmy your best friend? Are you going on to SNL or, like, all these. I, I. It was like, I feel like God gave me this talent. I worked really hard on this five minutes. It was unbelievable, and it exists forever. And a lot of people were, Were entertained by it. And I was proud just as somebody that was a basketball player or a welder or like, look what we. Look at this new construction. Look, we welded this whole thing. Look at that. How much did you get paid? Well, did the welders of the year, that it. You know what I'm saying?
A
Like, me and my. Look at guys built a building to be 400 years.
C
We did that. Yeah. Yeah, I learned how to do that. Look at that. Yeah, I did that. And I'll. Every time I drive by it, I'll be like, I did that.
B
That's right.
C
Every time I see Jimmy Fallon or it's a night show, I go, I done that. Yeah, man.
B
How do you get there? I want to get there. Wow.
C
In. Well, I think, I mean, I, I told my. One of my buddies, he. He works at. He works at a, A church, and his, his wife is, like, terrified of him, like, losing his job. What if we lose the job? What about, what are the kids gonna do? What if. I'm sure you get calls like that all the time and I secretly whisper to myself sometimes ago, I wish you would lose it. Yeah. Because then it's all going to come undone. You're gonna go work at Home Depot or whatever you guys say in here. Whatever. What's the typical job that they say in here? What does Dave tell people? Gonna go deliver pizzas.
A
Deliver pizza?
C
Yeah, whatever. That. Yeah, I don't think they do that.
B
Robots do that now or whatever.
C
Somebody go tell them. We don't. We don't know who delivers pizzas anymore. You're gonna go deliver pizzas. It's all going to come undone. Maybe you're gonna have to move back in with your parents and then what's gonna happen is you're gonna find a new job and then you're never gonna be scared of that again.
A
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B
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A
All right, thanks for joining me and my friend John Chris to talk about redemption, talk about marriage, and talk about how to keep a sense of humor.
B
In a world gone insane.
A
And I just want to throw this out there John sells out theaters all over the country. If he's coming to your town, you gotta put it on the calendar and go see him.
B
You will laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh, laugh. And it's good for the soul.
A
But here's the thing that that morning we, we recorded the show, we cut the show. That night was my very first sold.
B
Out night performing at, on the main stage here at Zany in Nashville, Tennessee.
A
I spend a lot of time at Zany. I love being around comics. I like being in the green room with those guys as they're practicing, making their jokes better, telling the truth, razzing each other.
B
A lot of people learning how to get really good at their craft.
A
And I just love being around people.
B
Who are trying to get better at the thing that they do. But John did me a huge favor and he is a headliner all over the country.
A
But he showed up as a surprise opener for my show and he laid the groundwork.
B
He just crushed.
A
I'm recording this intro after he's gone.
B
He crushed.
A
And when you have a comedian that will go up first and just level the crowd with humor, then it really helps out the person who follows up.
B
And so big personal shout out to.
A
John for coming up unannounced. He sells out places over the country.
B
And he's like, yeah, I'll roll up for this YouTuber guy and help him out.
A
And man, for those in the audience.
B
It made for a magic, magic night.
A
So big shout out to my friend, go see him when he comes to your town. Love you guys and I'll see you soon.
Date: October 24, 2025
Host: Dr. John Delony (B)
Guest: John Crist (C)
Producer/Co-host (A): Occasional comments
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A frank, humorous, and moving conversation between Dr. John Delony and comedian John Crist on the meaning and value of marriage, personal redemption, overcoming addiction, and navigating both highs and lows as a public figure. Crist shares his recent engagement, reflects on his past struggles (including rehab), lessons learned through pain and progress, and celebrates career success after recovery.
The episode opens with Dr. John Delony recounting a question he often receives: “Is marriage still worth it?” Using this as a springboard, he and John Crist explore:
Throughout, the duo blend personal experience, comedic reflection, and hard-earned wisdom in a candid, engaging exchange.
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The essence of this conversation lies in the interplay of vulnerability, honesty, humor, and hope. John Crist and Dr. John Delony model what it looks like to meaningfully answer life’s hardest questions, admit weaknesses, and celebrate the small (and big) victories along the way.
Recommendation: If you’re looking for wisdom on marriage, meaning, overcoming setbacks, or just want a raw, real conversation that balances humor and heaviness, this episode is a must-listen.