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Caller John
My wife just recently broke down and said that she does not enjoy having sex with me, and she's the only person I've been with. I waited until marriage. She did not. I've tried everything, man. I don't. I don't know where to go from here.
Dr. John DeLoney
Is she seeing someone else?
Caller John
I knew you were gonna ask them. I'm not sure.
Show Host
What's going on. What's going on? This is with a Dr. John DeLoney show. I'm so glad you're here. Taking your calls from all over the
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Caller John
Hey, John. I'm a big fan. I honestly can't believe I'm talking to you right now.
Show Host
Well, I'm a big fan of yours, dude.
Dr. John DeLoney
Thanks for calling, man.
Caller John
I'll just get right to it.
Dr. John DeLoney
Yeah. What's going on?
Caller John
I've been married for a little over a year, and our sex life has never been great. And my wife just recently broke down and said that she does not enjoy having sex with me. And I've tried everything, man. I don't. I don't know where to go from here.
Dr. John DeLoney
Oh, my gosh. That hurts, huh?
Caller John
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
When she sat down and told you this. And this is going to help frame how I answer the question. When she told you this, was it a. Was it a conversation that was compassionate and honest, or was she. Did she. Did she approach you with this as, like, an accusation, as frustrated, as, like a less than. As a power play? You get what I'm saying? How'd she approach?
Caller John
Frustration and. Frustration and somewhat anger.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay.
Caller John
And disappointment.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay. So this wasn't her sitting down, saying, hey, I want to walk along with you. We're going to figure this out together. This was. You're not enough.
Caller John
Yeah, I'm sorry.
Dr. John DeLoney
Yeah, man. No, dude, don't be sorry at all. That's heartbreaking.
Caller John
You know, just as a little background. She's the only person I've been with. I waited until marriage. She did not. So I'm struggling with that.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Show Host
So I'll leave her out of the
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equation, out of conversation for a second for you. This this thing.
Show Host
How old are you?
Caller John
I'm 30, about to turn 31.
Dr. John DeLoney
Wow. So you waited 29 years to be sexually intimate with somebody, huh?
Caller John
Yes, sir.
Dr. John DeLoney
Yeah.
Caller John
It wasn't easy.
Dr. John DeLoney
Yeah. And to be just stone rejected, I mean, that's layers of hurt.
Caller John
Yeah, man. Yep.
Caller Anna
Foreign.
Dr. John DeLoney
I'm sorry, ma'.
Caller Kenny
Am.
Caller John
Thank you. I've tried everything. I work out more to build my stamina. I'm a little bit bigger, so I've always been self conscious about myself and.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. There may be things you need to work on with your health. There may be things you need to work on mechanistically. Right? You're a year in, man, y'.
Show Host
All.
Dr. John DeLoney
You're still figuring out how your body works, how her body works, how y' all work together. Like, there's lots of figuring out and quote, unquote, things to do. But if.
Show Host
If you're.
Dr. John DeLoney
If your spouse is telling you your performance isn't up to standard, we're already on, off in the wrong place. We're on a theater stage. We're not together. You get what I'm saying?
Caller John
I feel that way. I feel that way. I've brought that up. I've listened to probably every episode you've had. I'm one of the OG17.
Dr. John DeLoney
Awesome.
Caller John
And I try to bring that up, and I try to get us closer, and it. I didn't. I never ends the way I hope it will. I never seem to get to the bottom layer of the Onion, If that makes any sense.
Dr. John DeLoney
I mean, it makes perfect sense. Is she seeing someone else?
Caller John
I knew you were gonna ask that. I'm not sure. She's very protective over her phone. Yeah, it's been in the back of my mind.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay, well, it just popped in the front of mine forever. That's worth. Because here's what I'm hearing.
Show Host
She.
Dr. John DeLoney
The way she spoke to you as a guy who's never been with anybody, a guy who's a year into being her husband, that type of condescension, that type of, you're not performing enough for me. That's the language of somebody holding you in contempt. That's the language of somebody who wants
Caller John
out
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and is trying to conjure reasons why they should have a right to it.
Show Host
Because.
Dr. John DeLoney
Let me. Let me. Like, I. I can't tell you. I mean, I can't count. I've lost count years ago, how many couples I've sat with, new couples, older couples, finding sexual intimacy and sexual rhythm and getting to Know yourself and how your body works and what you like and what your spouse likes and their body and how that changes almost. It feels like a daily change, right? But it changes over time. And some things you're into, you're not into. Sometimes you're really rocking and rolling and sometimes you're not. And like, that's the natural arc of any sort of intimate relationship.
Caller John
Okay?
Dr. John DeLoney
And to have it weaponized a you verse me instead of, oh, I'm going
Show Host
to be with you on this.
Dr. John DeLoney
And then to have a spouse like you who's willing to be like, hey, if, if you're seeing the same things. I've been ashamed about my weight, my, my sexual inadequacy, like, I'll work on, I'll fix it. I'll try to fix it. My gosh, man.
Caller John
So where do I go from here?
Dr. John DeLoney
I think her union to ask her the scariest question of all, which is, does she still want to be married? What if she says, oh, then she's already gone. And finding this out now will stop the dragging you behind the pickup truck of her life that's going on right now. You may have a year or two less road rash heartbreak. Because she knows where. She knows where your pain points are. She knows you're self conscious when you're not wearing a shirt. She knows you're self conscious because she has a sexual history and you don't. And to weaponize those, that, that's. That's a level of cruelty, man, that nobody should endure. It's cruel, it's meant to,
Show Host
and sometimes people.
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And that's why I wanted to know how she approached you. Because you're going to get your feelings hurt either way, right?
Show Host
If somebody sits down with you and
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says, hey, I want more for us in the bedroom, I want more for us with our sex life, like, that's going to be embarrassing and painful no matter how compassionate somebody is. But if somebody's willing to sit with you in that embarrassment and say, I'm going to walk with us, we're going to figure this thing out. Going to have some funny times, some annoying times, some heartbreaking times, and some hell, yeah, good times, right?
Show Host
But like, so you're going to, you're going to feel awkward, you feel embarrassed,
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you're going to feel ashamed, whatever. Especially if you've got old wounds of, am I enough and do I look enough, good enough and am I going to know what I'm doing? All those things that you've carried with you for almost three decades, right? But yeah, that's not what happened here. And sometimes I say things that are mean, but I really try hard to not ever intentionally be mean. You know what I mean?
Caller John
Yeah. Yeah, I tried. Yeah. I, I. Yeah. I'm not gonna go over the things I've tried, but, like, we tried to do a study, and, like, those are both people of faith, and we tried to protest from a faith perspective, and she.
Show Host
A study about what?
Dr. John DeLoney
A study about what?
Caller John
Like, how to build intimacy when either someone's already been sexually active or.
Dr. John DeLoney
If that's not the problem here. Absolutely not the problem here at all. That's not it. That sort of discrepancy happens all the time. All the time. That's not the issue here. The issue here is she is choosing to stand above you and lord over you. And no marriage can survive, no relationship, period, can survive with that sort of power differential, that sort of hierarchy.
Caller John
All right?
Show Host
Because, dude, because. Let me. Like, if she had.
Dr. John DeLoney
I'm making up a number. If she had 10 partners in the past, she marries you, guy who had zero partners in the past,
Show Host
she could bring a level of compassion, a level
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of love and play and adventure and arrows and walk right alongside you.
Show Host
She could co. Create her perfect person.
Dr. John DeLoney
Right,
Caller John
Right.
Show Host
She could tell you exactly what she likes, exactly what she's into,
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and hand you a playbook.
Show Host
And she didn't.
Dr. John DeLoney
She hit you over the head with cruelty and meanness.
Caller John
Get right.
Dr. John DeLoney
The issue here is not that she's had partners and you haven't. The issue here isn't that you're struggling with knowing how to please her. That's not the issue here. The issue here is y' all are on the same team. And I'm getting from you that you have tried everything to be on her team.
Caller John
Everything.
Dr. John DeLoney
And she keeps moving dugouts, she keeps moving fields, which tells me she doesn't want to be on your team, which is a. Dude, I'm heartbroken here. I'd hug you if you were sitting right here. I hate to say that out loud like that, but I just want to put it on the table.
Show Host
And if she does, if she goes,
Dr. John DeLoney
no, no, no, no, you're my guy, then she needs some real help with how to communicate.
Caller John
You're right. I think it's time for a tough conversation.
Caller Kenny
Let me.
Dr. John DeLoney
Let me ask you this. Outside of. Outside of sex, where else do you tiptoe in your own house or where else do you feel like you're living in her place?
Caller John
Everywhere. Okay.
Dr. John DeLoney
That's what I thought, and that's what I was afraid of. I'm gonna tell you right now, my brother, you're worth more than this. And when I think of fidelity, infidelity, Right. Maybe she's not sleeping with another guy. Even though I think every married person should share their passcodes with their. With their spouse. If you're going to share a bed and you're going to share genetics and have kids, then, good God, share your passwords. It just sounds so dumb to not do that. Or people are like, no way. Ridiculous. And if she's not, quote, unquote, cheating on you, sleeping with somebody else, whatever, She's not being a person of integrity. She's not whole. She's not taking your spirit inside your chest and your heart that you handed her at the altar when you got married and treating that with dignity and respect, she put in her back pocket and said, now it's mine. As far as I'm concerned, cruelty, harshness, cruelty is infidelity. And I'm heartbroken this happened to you, man. You sound like a pretty great guy.
Caller John
Thank you. And I'll try. I'm not perfect.
Dr. John DeLoney
No, none of us are.
Show Host
But your willingness to look in the
Dr. John DeLoney
mirror and say, how can I change when there's a problem tells you're a man of service and humility, which the world needs more of. And as the guy who's sitting right next to you here, I want to tell you, you're worth more than this.
Caller John
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
You're worth more than this. Okay.
Caller John
Okay.
Dr. John DeLoney
You're worth somebody figuring these problems out on your team, not against you.
Caller Anna
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
I hope, hope, hope I'm wrong. I don't think I am, but I hope I am. Okay.
Caller John
Okay.
Dr. John DeLoney
If I am wrong and she says, no, no, no, no. I'm so sorry. You're my person. God, I didn't know it was a big deal. Here's all my passcodes. I can't believe I said. I can't believe it came out that way.
Show Host
I said it wrong.
Dr. John DeLoney
I'm so sorry. If she does all that, then I want you to have done the work of saying, okay, here's a roadmap to what I want. And on a few things, here's what I need.
Caller John
Okay?
Dr. John DeLoney
But I want you to walk in your own picture this with me, brother. I want you to walk in the front door of your home or your apartment, wherever you all live. And I want that to be the shelter from the storm that is the world around us. I want your wife and your home to be the safest place. And y' all have to co create that. And I want you to be her safe place. And right now, probably the most anxious you get in your life is walking through the doors of your own home.
Caller John
You're 100% right.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay? You're worth more than that. Let me know how that conversation goes, brother. And reach out anytime I can help. I'll walk you with you through any of this stuff, man. I hate that this has happened to you. And I hate that she has weaponized your deepest, deepest insecurities and weaponized them. It breaks my heart for you. Breaks my heart for her, too, man. It's got to be miserable being in. In inside her skin. Absolutely miserable. To think that you have the audacity, the ability to just like somebody, hand you the nuclear codes to their spirit and just hit every button. Can't imagine living a life like that. We'll be right back.
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Dr. John DeLoney
What's up, Kenny?
Caller Kenny
Hi. Hi, Dr. John. How are you?
Show Host
I'm doing great, brother. How are you, man?
Caller Kenny
Good, man.
Dr. John DeLoney
What's up?
Caller Kenny
My question is, what's the point of marriage? I can get into detail a little bit.
Dr. John DeLoney
That's a great question. I've asked myself that question for years.
Show Host
Yeah, great question. Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Tell me the genesis of that question.
Caller Kenny
So we've been together 10 years. We do everything as husband and wife. We just had a child. We call each other husband and wife. I don't think right now it seems like marriage is for everybody else. Where I want it to be about us. And she comes from a different family dynamic that I'm not, you know, I'm not accustomed to. I grew up differently, where her mom's very controlling and wants to control everything. So I'm at the point where, like, either we just go to a courthouse and piss everybody off or. You know what I mean?
Dr. John DeLoney
Yeah.
Show Host
So is your question an existential one?
Dr. John DeLoney
Like, is marriage still worth it? Is it a thing?
Show Host
Is it some sort of outdated relic or whatever?
Dr. John DeLoney
Or is your question, how do I deal with my. Like, what?
Show Host
Now that I.
Caller Kenny
Maybe a little bit of.
Dr. John DeLoney
I'm. I'm doing a life with somebody. And doing a life with somebody means their family comes with them?
Caller Kenny
Yeah, maybe a little bit of both. I mean, we thought that we were never going to get married, and we were fine with that. And then I think because we have a child now, she, my wife decided to, you know, she wants to, she wants my name because she wants all of us to have the same name. And now we're thinking more about it.
Dr. John DeLoney
That's awesome, man.
Show Host
So give me your. If you were like in a court
Dr. John DeLoney
of law and you were going to make a case against the act of marriage, like legally binding, spiritually binding, if you're people of faith, like against that act, what would your case be?
Caller Kenny
Well, I'm not, I'm not a person. I like, I'm not a religious person. So to me it just seems like we just want a big party with everybody, you know, with everybody. We're not huge on the, you know, on the ceremony portion.
Show Host
Sure. But make me a case about it
Dr. John DeLoney
being something like, why wouldn't you. You've been with the person 10 years.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
What is it about legally binding yourself? Like, like giving yourself guardrails of putting your. Both of your feet in that boat and it's going to be a big deal to get out of that boat. Why does that scare you or why are you against that idea?
Caller Kenny
Yeah, it's a good question. It probably has to do with her family, to be honest.
Dr. John DeLoney
Tell me about that.
Caller Kenny
As I said, her mom's very controlling. We got, when I first met her, she wouldn't do anything without, you know, her parents and stuff. We ended up moving away. That was a little bit of the reason. But it was also because we couldn't afford a house close to where they were.
Dr. John DeLoney
Sure.
Caller Kenny
And it's gotten a lot better since we moved away. But they always wanted. Yeah, it's. We want to live our life the way we want to live our life. And they, they always decided to tell us how to live our life.
Dr. John DeLoney
Gotcha. So I think your question is less about marriage and more about how to navigate this. And I'll help you with that. I'm finishing up a two year. When I say I went down the rabbit hole, brother, I went down the rabbit hole trying to answer the question, a, is marriage still worth it? And if it is, how do you do it in this crazy world we live in?
Caller Kenny
Right.
Dr. John DeLoney
And the, the, I'll even say I wasn't even surprised. I was stunned by the. How conclusive the evidence was. Okay. And I'm a person of faith, but I'm putting that on the side for a second. Okay. Single cohabitating couples, people who are single or couples who just in indefinitely live together, they have less good outcomes if you Will not say their outcomes are bad, but they are not as good as the multiplying effect of a legally bound marriage. Kids outcomes are improved. Giving your kids the quote unquote, best opportunity. I was shocked. I thought it was an Internet trope. I thought it was like an Instagram, like, oh, that's cute thing to say. The data backs up the greatest opportunity, the greatest things I can do for my kids, all the things I want to give them so that they can have the greatest life. That energy is best spent looking directly at my spouse and saying all until death do us part. And that gives my kids something so concrete to anchor into that they can. They can rappel off the side of that cliff and go do amazing, great things. But I'm talking about health outcomes, more sex. What are some of the other ones?
Show Host
Financial outcomes.
Dr. John DeLoney
All of it anchored back to the greatest. The greatest center point of those outcomes was to go be married. And not only be married, but be married well, or be married. Awesome. If you're married bad, everything is reverse roi. It has a. An enormous negative impact, right?
Show Host
And I think it's. I think as a culture, we like, we all.
Dr. John DeLoney
We can look at outcomes like, say, go to college, right? It may change, but right now, if you go to college, your outcomes, you have a better chance at better outcomes, okay? It just. This is a fact. And so as a culture here in the states especially, we have said, okay, here's college readiness programs, here's scholarship programs.
Show Host
We've done a bunch of things to say, hey, if you go through the.
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Go through it, go to college, graduate. You have opportunities to accelerate your. Your. Your good outcomes, right? But for some reason, we've had an allergy to saying, hey, man, like, if you go do this thing called get married, and you really change everything and do it really, really well, your outcomes are outsized in that way, too. And I think it's because people have been abused. People end up single parents, people, like, for all sorts of reasons, and we don't want to shame anybody. Um, and so I get that impulse, but, man, I'm telling you right now, and I'll tell you this, I'm 23 and a half years married. There has been several times when the only reason we're still together today is because of the pain it would have been to go through the court system, right? And that sounds like, ooh, that's lame and gross or whatever, but, dude, I have only eaten, well, certain times because I got rid of all the junk food out of my house. I have only exercised Sometimes in my life because I knew I had somebody meeting me at the gym. And so I think just because there's accountability, just because there is hurdles doesn't mean it's a bad thing. In fact, I think it's. It means it matters. It means it's a good thing. And so, dude, I can't, I can't overstate enough the importance of finding somebody that you want to spend the rest of your life with and dedicating yourself to serving that person and praying to God or if you don't believe in
Show Host
God, just hoping really big that they
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bring that same attitude to you and y' all will build something that changes both of Yalls family tree into something extraordinary now.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Can I.
Caller Kenny
That makes sense.
Dr. John DeLoney
Can I propose something to you?
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
And it. Tell me if I'm wrong. Okay. You're not as mad at your mother in law as you are with your, with your girlfriend.
Caller Kenny
I agree. Yeah, I know.
Dr. John DeLoney
Tell me about that.
Caller Kenny
I think I was taught from like a pretty young age to stand up for myself and to. Yeah. So the biggest thing is boundaries. Right. Like she, like, she's gotten a lot better, but it's, it's putting boundaries there so that they know. But like not boundaries with yourself, like telling them this is a boundary. Right.
Dr. John DeLoney
Can I go one level deeper than that?
Caller John
Yeah.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Boundaries are a decision that sits upon another big decision that she has chosen you over them.
Caller Kenny
Right.
Dr. John DeLoney
There's no reason to make a boundary if they still come first. There's no reason to make a boundary if you're still going to do everything you can to seek the. Their approval. Even though both of y' all know that approval is never going to come.
Caller Kenny
Right.
Dr. John DeLoney
Right. And there's this gnawing question in your spirit. It sounds like, are you picking me? Because it sounds like you continue to pick them.
Caller Kenny
Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense.
Dr. John DeLoney
I think that every person, and this is biochemical, this is neurosciences, all the nerd stuff you want to talk about. But I think to say it in the simplest way, every person, all of us need to be seen and known and truly celebrated and when appropriate, challenged. But I think it has to happen in that order. And if you spent the last decade seeing and knowing her and celebrating the crap out of her, man, being her number one cheerleader and she only sees and knows you after she gets done talking to her mom about it. I think you have to deal with the pain and the grief of that because that hurts, man. And the choice like your mother in law can only or your girlfriend's mom, whatever you want to call her, she can only impact yalls relationship as much as your wife, and subsequently you allow it. Right, Zafara?
Caller John
I agree.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Show Host
So my question for you is for.
Dr. John DeLoney
For her and for you.
Show Host
How long are you going to let
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this woman have a bigger vote at your table than the only two votes that matter, which is you and your wife, you and your girlfriend, On everything from how you're going to raise your kid, what you're going to name your kid, y' all going to get married in any way possible.
Show Host
By the way, here's the reason I
Dr. John DeLoney
think legal marriage is still important. Okay. It gives everybody a framework for what happens if this thing breaks down. And nobody likes to think about that, but I think that's important. There's a path and there's some legal support for other systems and cohabitation. All that. But the clearest one still is if this thing falls apart. Here is a path for how this is going to be handled. And I think that's really important.
Caller Kenny
Yeah, I agree.
Dr. John DeLoney
You've made a human with this. With this girl. So. Or with this woman. So y' all are in it for life together in some way, shape, form or fashion, regardless.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Are you.
Show Host
Are.
Dr. John DeLoney
Is she your person?
Caller Kenny
Absolutely.
Dr. John DeLoney
Are you willing to go all in carrying her as a responsibility. Right. And allowing her to carry you as a responsibility for the rest of Yalls life?
Caller John
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Is she?
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay, then if. If you're not a person of faith, you don't have a bigger picture of this thing. Follow the data.
Caller Kenny
Yeah, absolutely. That helps a lot.
Dr. John DeLoney
Congratulations, man. What's your kid's name? Actually, don't, don't, don't give me the name. Don't, don't give me the name over the phone. That's okay. I mean over the air. But just. I'll shut. Shout you out, baby. Here do when.
Caller Kenny
Yeah, he's 10 months old.
Dr. John DeLoney
10 months old. All right. Make the rest of your life about taking care of his mom.
Caller Kenny
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Awesome.
Caller Kenny
Thanks, man.
Dr. John DeLoney
Hey, it's been an honor to talk to you, my brother. Call any time. And great question. It's a question that haunted me for years and years. And I don't know that I've been more confident in something in a long, long time. Great, great question.
Show Host
When we come back, a woman asks, should she tell her long term friend
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Caller Anna
Hi. I do have a question.
Dr. John DeLoney
What's up?
Caller Anna
I have a 10 year friendship with one of my really close friends. I recently just had a gathering and her, I'm not sure if they're married or not but her boyfriend told my brother and showed proof that he's been paying for sex and buying these women stuff. Because I do have a great relationship with her, I'm not sure if I should get involved. My main worry is because she just had a baby. So I'm worried for like any STDs or possible danger because he has seen prostitutes.
Dr. John DeLoney
Yeah.
Show Host
I mean I want to honor the
Dr. John DeLoney
fact that you're calling me, but your first call should have been to her. This is as clear of a no brainer as I've, as I, as I ever get on the show. Yes.
Caller Kenny
Okay.
Dr. John DeLoney
Yes, Yes. A thousand times yes. This is a, this is a friend. If I knew somebody for 30 minutes. Ah, maybe not 30 minutes, but if I knew somebody for a short period of time and I know they're in danger, you better believe I'm going to say something. A ten year friendship. Yeah.
Caller Anna
I'm just worried that if she ends up with him or back with him that it fire backs on me.
Show Host
So it's. There's an old saying that I love
Dr. John DeLoney
not by your hand, but in your lap. Okay. We had. We got hit by this wild ice storm a month or two ago here in Nashville. And even just yesterday, there were guys out cutting down trees in my yard because they're dead and some of them had fallen over. I didn't cause that. I didn't have anything to do with that, but I have to deal with the cleanup. And this is a similar situation. You were just doing life, having some friends over, some family members over, and then boom, somebody handed you a live grenade and said, your close friend is in a terrible, terrible situation. And so as of now, the friendship you had with her is different. It's not over, but it's very different.
Caller John
Yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
And I always want my friendships to be based on honesty and respect and dignity. And so if she chooses to not be friends with you in the future, because she chooses this guy who's cheating on her, buying prostitutes, putting her at risk, etc, and she chooses him to be the parent, I mean, to be the full time parent of that kid, then you get to choose if you want to be friends with that person or not.
Caller Anna
Okay.
Dr. John DeLoney
But I don't ever want to look in the mirror and think I didn't do the right thing because it was scary or because it was hard. I always want to make the next right move. And letting your friend know they're in danger, they're a cuckold, they are getting run around on all those things.
Show Host
And you may find out, oh, she already knows.
Dr. John DeLoney
And then y' all got to talk through that, you know what I mean? Like. But yeah, I'm always going to default to being a person who's going to tell my friends the truth whether they got a booger on their nose or whether they. Your spouse or their baby daddy is out buying Pro. I mean, yeah, I. I would tell them. I would tell them. I would tell them. I would tell them. I would have told him yesterday.
Caller Anna
Okay. Yeah, she does know a little bit because she mentioned that he loves to go to strip clubs, but she doesn't know the full extent. And so, yeah.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay.
Show Host
And some of this may blow back on your brother.
Dr. John DeLoney
And for like, that guy calls and I can't believe you told, bro, it's my sister.
Show Host
It's your.
Dr. John DeLoney
I'm gonna tell. And he needs to have the courage to do that as well. But, yeah, no brainer.
Show Host
Easy.
Dr. John DeLoney
Make the. I mean, the call might be hard, but make the call. Be direct. Let her know what you've seen. And tell her I'll walk with you through this entire next chapter because it's going to be messy. Thanks for call.
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Dr. John DeLoney
The wife of that first caller. But go ahead.
Caller Kelly
We agree. We took a poll in here and we agree.
Dr. John DeLoney
This is when I wish I had the powers of 11, because I would be going and she would have projectile rocket diarrhea right now. But alas, I'm just a mere mortal. Yes, you are in the right side up.
Caller Kelly
Sorry about that.
Dr. John DeLoney
Bums me out.
Caller Kelly
Yeah, I know.
Show Host
All right, go ahead. Who's the problem?
Caller Kelly
So this is from Anonymous G. Anonymous
Show Host
G. Dude, that sets your rap name.
Dr. John DeLoney
Ben100. Anonymous G in Houston.
Show Host
So hton, there's a lot of anonymous
Dr. John DeLoney
GS rolling in Houston. Dude.
Show Host
In there.
Caller Kelly
I looked at Houston, I'd be want to be anonymous too.
Show Host
Dude, whatever.
Dr. John DeLoney
It's chopped and screwed, dude. They're just going slow, drinking that lean,
Show Host
huge H town Mark Jones. Dude.
Dr. John DeLoney
Just.
Show Host
Yes, just.
Caller Kelly
Sorry, people. I think John has had an aneurysm.
Show Host
I got thrown back to my roots.
Caller Kenny
Dude. I love it.
Dr. John DeLoney
Okay.
Caller Kelly
You're so white.
Dr. John DeLoney
To my precious suburb.
Caller Kelly
Exactly. You were raised about like I was in a suburb.
Show Host
Listen, lady, listen.
Dr. John DeLoney
Sometimes kids had Spray paint said bad words.
Caller Kelly
Not like we were from the mean streets.
Show Host
Yeah, speak for yourself, Mike Jones. All right, go for it. I bet your parents listen.
Dr. John DeLoney
Go for it.
Caller Kelly
All right. Anonymous G rights. Anywho, I am a Christian and my husband used to be, but now considers himself an atheist. Is it wrong for me to take my three kids, elementary age, to church with me? If my husband disagrees and says that I'm imposing my beliefs on them and that they should make their own choices one day, should I stop taking them?
Show Host
No. Kids need structure.
Dr. John DeLoney
They're, they're going to come up with
Show Host
their own beliefs anyway.
Dr. John DeLoney
Give them a routine.
Show Host
And by the way, even atheist economists
Dr. John DeLoney
say if I could snap my fingers,
Show Host
I'd have everybody go back to church. It gives structure to a week give
Dr. John DeLoney
structure to a system. It gives you a group of people
Show Host
that you do life with. And my beliefs are radically different than
Dr. John DeLoney
the house of worship I was dragged to as a kid. But I had structure in my life and I had parents that believed in a thing.
Show Host
And this idea that I'm just going
Dr. John DeLoney
to let my 9 year old or 10 year old or 7 year old just decide for themselves.
Show Host
They're 9 and 10 and 7. They can't. They can't.
Dr. John DeLoney
And so good grief, yes, go, go get them involved in things.
Show Host
And if you're both atheists and you both don't want to go to house worship, fine, great. But get your kids involved in things bigger than themselves.
Dr. John DeLoney
That's a cornerstone of mental and emotional health. And don't outsource their systems of beliefs
Show Host
to their developing brains.
Dr. John DeLoney
Good grief. Kind of world do we live in?
Caller Kelly
A world where you think you're from the mean streets of Houston.
Dr. John DeLoney
You, you,
Show Host
You go listen to Mike Jones and Paul Wall for one hour
Dr. John DeLoney
and tell me your life's not better.
Caller Kelly
I know who they are. I'm fully aware.
Dr. John DeLoney
Listen, sometimes you just have to go with the truth. That, damn, it feels good to be a gangster.
Episode: "My Wife Doesn’t Enjoy Sex With Me"
Date: April 17, 2026
Host: Dr. John DeLoney (Ramsey Network)
This episode explores difficult relationship issues as listeners call in for guidance on intimacy, marriage, and friendship dilemmas. The heart of the episode is a vulnerable conversation with a caller struggling after his wife reveals she doesn’t enjoy sex with him. Dr. Delony offers real-talk advice on partnership, self-worth, boundaries, and the deeper issues underlying such confessions. Additional callers discuss the meaning of marriage and the responsibility of addressing infidelity discovered among friends.
“This wasn’t her sitting down, saying, hey, I want to walk along with you… This was, ‘You’re not enough.’” [02:10]
“That’s the language of somebody holding you in contempt. That’s the language of somebody who wants out and is trying to conjure reasons why they should have a right to it.” [05:25]
“No marriage can survive, no relationship, period, can survive with that sort of power differential, that sort of hierarchy.” [09:39]
“Finding this out now will stop the dragging you behind the pickup truck of her life that’s going on right now.” [07:08]
“When I think of fidelity, infidelity, right? … Cruelty, harshness, cruelty is infidelity. And I’m heartbroken this happened to you, man. You sound like a pretty great guy.” [13:53]
“I want you to walk in the front door of your home… and I want that to be the shelter from the storm that is the world around us.” [15:07]
“Single cohabitating couples… have less good outcomes… The greatest opportunity, the greatest things I can do for my kids… is looking directly at my spouse and saying ‘until death do us part’...” [23:20]
“Boundaries are a decision that sits upon another big decision—that she has chosen you over them… There’s no reason to make a boundary if they still come first.” [28:01]
“Make the rest of your life about taking care of his mom.” [31:43]
“Your first call should have been to her. This is as clear of a no brainer as I ever get on the show. Yes. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.” [34:49]
“It’s not over, but it [the friendship] is very different.” [36:01]
“And this idea that I’m just going to let my 9 year old or 10 year old or 7 year old just decide for themselves… They can’t. They can’t.” [41:27]
“Don’t outsource their systems of beliefs to their developing brains.” [41:44]
“She knows where your pain points are… And to weaponize those… that’s a level of cruelty, man, that nobody should endure.” — Dr. John DeLony [07:28]
“The issue here is y’all are on the same team. And I’m getting from you that you have tried everything to be on her team.” — Dr. John DeLony [11:10]
“If you’re not a person of faith, you don’t have a bigger picture of this thing. Follow the data.” — Dr. John DeLony [31:13]
“I always want to make the next right move. And letting your friend know they’re in danger... I would have told them yesterday.” — Dr. John DeLony [36:29]
“Don’t outsource their systems of beliefs to their developing brains.” — Dr. John DeLony [41:44]
Dr. John DeLony maintains a frank, compassionate, and occasionally humorous tone, offering validation alongside firm, actionable advice. His approach balances empathy for callers’ pain with tough love and practical steps, deeply rooted in both professional insight and personal experience.
For listeners: