Therapized with Nori Reed

Summary

The Dylan Hour with Dylan Mulvaney: Episode Summary – "Therapized with Nori Reed"

Release Date: April 2, 2025
Host: Dylan Mulvaney
Guest: Nori Reed
Podcast Platform: Lemonada Media

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1. Introduction to the Episode

In this engaging episode of The Dylan Hour, Dylan Mulvaney welcomes her friend and colleague, Nori Reed, to discuss the theme of therapy. Dylan shares her personal journey from traditional therapy to employing a celebrity life coach, setting the stage for an in-depth conversation about mental health, personal growth, and the challenges faced by the trans community.

2. Therapy and Ketamine

Transition from Therapists to Celebrity Life Coach

Dylan opens up about her evolving relationship with therapy. Having been in therapy for much of her life, she transitioned to working with a celebrity life coach in recent years. She humorously reflects on the cost and exclusivity of traditional therapy, stating:

Dylan Mulvaney (03:03): "I'm going to give her the opportunity to tell me everything that she thinks is wrong with me, not only on her behalf, but on behalf of the entire trans community."

Role of Ketamine in Therapy

The duo delves into the use of ketamine as a therapeutic tool. Dylan shares her positive experiences with ketamine, highlighting its benefits for mental health:

Dylan Mulvaney (05:38): "I do [ketamine]. It helped me so much."

Nori expresses skepticism about the legitimacy and cost of such treatments, leading Dylan to explain the therapeutic process:

Dylan Mulvaney (05:47): "It's very legitimate... They make you have a friend present because they are very safe."

They discuss the method of administration and the importance of a supportive environment during treatment, with Dylan emphasizing the controlled and safe use of ketamine under medical supervision.

3. The "Bitter and Sweet" Segment

In their signature segment, Dylan and Nori share their week's highlights and challenges.

Nori's Bitter and Sweet:

Nori Reed (08:25): "My bitter is the absolute camel toe that I'm getting in romper... My sweet is I'm going to the Hiltons tonight."

Dylan's Bitter and Sweet:

Dylan Mulvaney (10:23): "My bitter is I'm so tired... Sweet is meeting really nice people."

This segment showcases the hosts' candidness and humor, touching on personal fashion choices and social engagements.

4. Career and Moving to LA

Transition from Therapist Student to Comedian

Dylan recounts her decision to leave her marriage and family therapy program due to ethical conflicts and a desire to pursue stand-up comedy. She shares a pivotal moment:

Dylan Mulvaney (19:49): "She needed something. And I thought to myself... listening to women like Michelle."

Stand-Up Career and Influences

Highlighting her comedic journey, Dylan talks about receiving an invitation from Amy Poehler to open for Clusterfest, a performance that significantly boosted her career:

Dylan Mulvaney (24:39): "I performed for, like, 10,000 people, and that's what changed my life."

She expresses her passion for writing and performing, aiming to create authentic trans characters in media.

5. Discussion on Trans Representation

Challenges and Insights

Dylan and Nori discuss the complexities of being trans in the entertainment industry. They touch upon the stereotypes and the scarcity of nuanced trans characters:

Dylan Mulvaney (25:12): "I'd love a trans character who is, like, kind of sucks."

Writing and Acting in TV

The conversation shifts to Dylan’s aspirations in television writing, emphasizing the need for diverse and realistic portrayals of trans individuals to break stereotypes and promote understanding.

6. Social Dynamics and Relationships

Dating as a Trans Woman

Nori and Dylan engage in a playful discussion about dating norms, referencing the problematic “Rules” dating book from the 80s. They critique its outdated advice and explore modern approaches to relationships:

Nori Reed (37:39): "It's deeply problematic... You can't go up to a guy first."

Their light-hearted banter highlights the evolving landscape of dating within and outside the trans community.

7. Segments and Games

Rapid Fire: "Overshare, Don't Care"

The hosts participate in a lightning round of rapid-fire questions, revealing personal preferences and quirky habits. Examples include:

• Pre-show Ritual:
  Nori Reed (45:17): "McDonald's and then curl up in bed."

• Favorite Platform:
  Dylan Mulvaney (45:35): "TikTok. I hate Instagram."

These quick exchanges offer listeners amusing insights into the hosts' personalities and lifestyles.

8. Audience Interaction: Last Call Confessions

A listener shares their experience of a heartbreaking breakup and seeks advice on moving forward. Dylan and Nori provide compassionate and practical guidance:

Dylan Mulvaney (51:33): "Make a decision and then make it the right decision."

Nori Reed (53:00): "Don't overthink... Don't rush into the next relationship."

Their supportive responses underscore the podcast's commitment to addressing real-life issues faced by listeners.

9. Closing Remarks and Future Plans

As the episode wraps up, Dylan and Nori express their excitement for future segments, including plans for a trans-centric singles cruise. They encourage listeners to connect via social media and subscribe to The Dylan Hour for more content.

Nori Reed (56:38): "Want even more of the Dylan Hour? Now is a great time to subscribe to Lemonada Premium."

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Notable Quotes with Timestamps:

• Dylan Mulvaney (03:03): "I'm going to give her the opportunity to tell me everything that she thinks is wrong with me..."
• Dylan Mulvaney (05:38): "I do [ketamine]. It helped me so much."
• Nori Reed (08:25): "My bitter is the absolute camel toe that I'm getting in romper..."
• Dylan Mulvaney (19:49): "She needed something. And I thought to myself..."
• Dylan Mulvaney (24:39): "I performed for, like, 10,000 people, and that's what changed my life."
• Dylan Mulvaney (25:12): "I'd love a trans character who is, like, kind of sucks."
• Nori Reed (37:39): "It's deeply problematic... You can't go up to a guy first."
• Nori Reed (45:17): "McDonald's and then curl up in bed."
• Dylan Mulvaney (45:35): "TikTok. I hate Instagram."
• Dylan Mulvaney (51:33): "Make a decision and then make it the right decision."
• Nori Reed (53:00): "Don't overthink... Don't rush into the next relationship."

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Conclusion

In "Therapized with Nori Reed," The Dylan Hour offers a heartfelt and humorous exploration of therapy, personal growth, and the journey of being a trans woman in the entertainment industry. Through candid conversations, engaging segments, and supportive advice, Dylan and Nori create a space that is both entertaining and meaningful for their audience.

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Transcript

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hey there. We hope you enjoy the Dylan Hour.

[Nori Reed]

If you love the show, there's an.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

Lemonad in your car, in the shower, on a walk through the Dylan Hour. Feeling sweet, feeling sour. I feel nothing. The Dylan Hour. My couch is open. It's better than therapy. All you soccer moms, all your they's and thems, all your bottom boys, my bisexual femmes, come one and all disassociate with me. It's free, grab a drink or two or three. You have no friends. All good. You got me. It's the Deal Hour. Love ya. Welcome back to the Dylan Hour, everyone. Is this an okay time? I really hope it is because today's episode is themed around therapy, something that I could definitely use more of. I've been in therapy for a lot of my life, but the last few years I've sort of switched to a celebrity life coach, which definitely has its pros and cons. But the reason that today's episode is themed around therapy is because our guest did originally want to be a therapist before her amazing comedy career. She has written on Disney's Raven's Home as well as After Midnight and her comedy showcase is in Netflix is a joke festival and Comedy Central's cluster Fest much more. Also, also, she's one of my favorite comedians. That was actually, I think, the first trans standup that I saw in LA in an Eagle Rock backyard, which if anyone knows Eagle Rock, it's kind cool place to go see queer comedy. But before making it in comedy, she wanted to be a therapist. So I'm going to give her the opportunity to tell me everything that she thinks is wrong with me, not only on her behalf, but on behalf of the entire trans community. She is widely known for her successful live show Trans It Girls here in la. Welcome to the podcast. Nori Reed. Hey girl.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh my God.

[Nori Reed]

What a bio.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

If the industry ever goes to, you know, shit out that's what I'll do. I'll just be a therapist.

[Nori Reed]

This. Well, this is the start.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Therapies. Me.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, you. So. So everything that's wrong with you.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm going to start with too beautiful.

[Nori Reed]

Oh.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think that is. That's what I'm going to start. I think my formal diagnosis is too beautiful.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Too kind.

[Nori Reed]

Too. Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And too talented. It's. It's kind of a triple diagnosis there. Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. And do you think, like, what would the. Like, what would I. Should I start doing to not be that. That way?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You know, I think it's an incurable. Oh, there's no cure. I think the only kind of treatment is just to keep on succeeding.

[Nori Reed]

This is the best $700 I've ever spent. And that's how much you should be charging because I don't think you should go through insurance. I don't think insurance let you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would never.

[Nori Reed]

Private pay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would never do insurance.

[Nori Reed]

So there's a little drink to your right, honey. And this we are calling there's something wrong with Yuzu. And by yuzu, I mean mizu. That's crazy. So cheers to you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Cheers.

[Nori Reed]

Cheers to Yuzu. What is yuzu, honey? And why did you ask for it?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's.

[Nori Reed]

She.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She is exotic. She's from Japan.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Sips, I believe. Maybe even Kyoto.

[Nori Reed]

Oh.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Or in Kyoto. They really like it.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I love Japan.

[Nori Reed]

You look.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm obsessed.

[Nori Reed]

You just. We're going to talk about Japan because you traveled there, right?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Always. Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. And this also has ketamine in it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This does.

[Nori Reed]

I'm kidding.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank God. You know, I do so many podcasts and they never give me ketamine, and I'm just like, why am I here?

[Nori Reed]

And that's. But it's crazy because I. I was listening to my favorite, favorite podcast called Seek Treatment.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

And you were talking about how you do ketamine on occasion.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I do. It helped me so much.

[Nori Reed]

Really?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. And now I'm kind of on, like, a maintenance dose.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. So. But we don't drink alcohol. But we do do ketamine.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, I don't really see. I'm allergic to alcohol.

[Nori Reed]

Oh.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What happens if you do have friends who have, like, the Asian flush?

[Nori Reed]

I've heard of this.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So I don't have a good time. Like, if I drink, I physically feel bad. I have a hangover while I'm.

[Nori Reed]

You don't want to, like, have sex with a random stranger in a bar?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, always.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's.

[Nori Reed]

Without alcohol.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God. But but like. Yeah, but with ketamine sips.

[Nori Reed]

So, yeah, little ASMR for us at.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The Dylan hour with ketamine. No, I just. I really love it. I really do.

[Nori Reed]

What? Was that something you would recommend for me as your patient?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

Really?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

To anyone.

[Nori Reed]

But what is. What does it do?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It. What does it not do?

[Nori Reed]

Wait, have I done. Oh, shit.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Cut the camera.

[Nori Reed]

Stay in school, kids. How about. But ketamine. What, like, what did it do for you?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So the reason why I did it is because a friend of mine told me that when you do it in a therapeutic way. Cause you can, like, you can go to Akbar and do ketamine.

[Nori Reed]

Right?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And that's just. That's for fun.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But you could do it therapeutically with a doctor. I get mine through a doctor based on a Texas. And no, I actually shouldn't go.

[Nori Reed]

Textbooks.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I shouldn't joke. It's actually very. It's very legitimate.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But they send it to you and you do it at home with a friend and it sounds so bad. It's actually really legitimate.

[Nori Reed]

So this doctor is like, who's your friend that is going to be watching you?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They make you have a friend present because they are very safe.

[Nori Reed]

And are you doing, like. Is this like, you're submitting the picture of your friend through an application or like, how.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's kind of like. They're just like.

[Nori Reed]

It's a trust.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's a. This is a trust exercise.

[Nori Reed]

Would you be like. I was going to say, would you be my friend when. When I do ketamine, but you actually would be there as a therapist.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would love to. I'd be honored. 700 an hour on for free. Wow. For free. For one yuzu cocktail. I would.

[Nori Reed]

What would I like is. Are you. Do you cry? Do you sweat?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. So basically I do mine through tablet and you chew it for 15 and swish. It's very nasty. Tastes very bad.

[Nori Reed]

This isn't Trans. ASMR show now.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So basically, you switch in your mouth and then it starts to work after 15 minutes.

[Nori Reed]

And is it supposed to bring you joy or is it supposed to bring you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's euphoric.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And it's a little out of body. You don't. You kind of detach from your body.

[Nori Reed]

You find, like, realizations. Like shrooms.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like 100. It's kind of like shrooms on ketamine.

[Nori Reed]

Would you ever do ayahuasca?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would love to.

[Nori Reed]

I did that one.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Wait, did you. Did you like it?

[Nori Reed]

I threw up so much and. Was amazing.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. You got to go down to the real. Don't do it in, like the hills.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like, I was a good, like, Peru.

[Nori Reed]

That's where I went.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And did you. The people for you, if I may ask, did you just vomit or was there other things? Because I know some people. It's both. It's both.

[Nori Reed]

I never did, which brought me a lot of joy because I don't think I could have handled that as well. But. And it. I. I had black smoke come out of my mouth when I vomited.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like, in real. In this reality or. Or I'm pretty sure in this reality.

[Nori Reed]

I'm pretty sure. And.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, nipples leaked in. In this reality or that's reality. Okay. Okay.

[Nori Reed]

And they said that was rare, but it was okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was that very. Like. Was that a, like a gender affirming for you?

[Nori Reed]

So much?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Well, that's. Yeah, I think I'll. How about this? You give me your Texas contact. I will give you. I love my Peru contact.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I feel like this is how Hollywood works.

[Nori Reed]

That's how.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This is Hollywood.

[Nori Reed]

It's just people prescribing drugs to each other. Drugs to each other, but not drinking alcohol. Never, never, never in. Oh, actually I wanted. This is a great segue. We need to do our bitter and sweet. After our first sip here at the Dylan Hour, we always do a bitter and sweet of the week.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. I'm excited.

[Nori Reed]

My bitter is the absolute camel toe that I'm getting. And romper.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I mean, it's really good for the only romper.

[Nori Reed]

A jumpsuit.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

This would be a. I would call it a jumpsuit, personally.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But it's also a romper.

[Nori Reed]

It's kind of like a toddler. Clothes just expanded.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's really cute.

[Nori Reed]

But I wore it because you're a very, like, serious comedian that people take seriously here in the comedy biz. And I feel like women in comedy wear rompers.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They were. They wear a jumpsuit. They were romper.

[Nori Reed]

It's very Chelsea Handler coded. It's very Beth Stelling coded.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

What do you think it is about the romper that makes people comedy just wear them?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, I think it has something. Definitely has something to do with gender. Like, when I first started comedy as a trans woman, I immediately got the clue that, like, you kind of dress a little bit more masculine on stage.

[Nori Reed]

You. We really.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes, it's a thing. I think it's not like, spoken. It's not like people talk about it, but I feel like women want to be taken seriously. They kind of, like, don't look cutesy.

[Nori Reed]

Right.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

And. But I do want to give a shout out to, like, the Cat Cohen's and the Mary Beth Barros, who are, like, in, like, ball gowns.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I started out in the clubs, like, Club Comic.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And I think that's a very specific culture.

[Nori Reed]

Was that like the straight clubs?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's like, straight.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, did you have. I felt when I did those, I just got like. I had to put myself down to make them laugh.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's horrible. It's. They're not very nice places. I mean. Well, no, I still do them. I still do clubs.

[Nori Reed]

Feel like I'm there tonight.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. I'm like. I'm literally out, probably. But. But also, like, it's not the most, like, welcoming place for queer people. No, I'll say that.

[Nori Reed]

Would you wear it like this? Cute.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. This would be like club.

[Nori Reed]

What? This would be called an overall dress.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

That's not a bitter of the week. You look sweet.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank you.

[Nori Reed]

So my sweet is. I'm going to the Hiltons. I'm going to Kathy Hilton's tonight.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God.

[Nori Reed]

What do you think is your bitter and sweet of the week?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

My bitter, if I can just be honest, is I'm so tired.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, lay down.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm just like, I work a lot, which is a blessing and I'm grateful.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And you can never complain about it. You can never complain about work because work is so hard right now for people.

[Nori Reed]

Anyone that you could have first world problems with right now, it's Dylan Mulvaney, honey.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Right. We work a lot.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, honey. Now give us your. Give us your sweet.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Sweet is. I am working a lot, but I'm meeting really nice people.

[Nori Reed]

If I see a doll, like, living her best life, I'm like, thank God. Because I think that's good for everyone involved.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. I deal with a lot of. I'm. Someone talk about therapy if, you know, since we're talking about therapy a lot. Guilt. I struggle with guilt a lot. I mean, I grew up very Christian. And that's Kentucky, baby. Right. I'm from Kentucky and I feel.

[Nori Reed]

Isn't it called Christian County?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes, I'm from Christian county.

[Nori Reed]

In that county was Christian.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It was Christian, honey. It was very Christian.

[Nori Reed]

And. And so that. Do you feel like that was. Was it Catholic or like, what?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Pentecostal?

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's like speaking in tongues.

[Nori Reed]

I just got the.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, really?

[Nori Reed]

No way.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Did you ever. Yes.

[Nori Reed]

You committed to the bit.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's like a mass hysteria kind of a thing where everyone else is doing it. So you're like, Hello, Michelle. And then like, yes, when speaking in.

[Nori Reed]

Tugs anywhere similar to doing ketamine.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would say it's a very similar experience.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

100.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

And are people in Christian County, Kentucky in therapy?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I hope so. I mean, I would pray that they are. I haven't gone back in a very long time, but.

[Nori Reed]

So Pentecostal guilt does mirror Catholic guilt.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Because of the fear of hell. Yeah, fear of hell. Fear of burning.

[Nori Reed]

Do you think hell is real still?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I haven't thought about that. I. I don't think so.

[Nori Reed]

I hope not for us, I hope.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You know what? We're living in it.

[Nori Reed]

We're living in it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We're in Hollywood, baby.

[Nori Reed]

I think once you. Once you hit trans rich, it's automatic. You're going down.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That is hell.

[Nori Reed]

You're going down.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's pretty far. I. I don't know of this ghost bar, but I'd love to know more.

[Nori Reed]

There's a ghost bar and I think if you ever going back there to. Do you have any family still there?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I don't. I don't.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, everybody got the heck out of there.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They got out of there. Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

So you went to Ohio and that's when things got a little more liberal.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It got more liberal there. I came out as gay. It was a little pit stop because we all got. A lot of us do a little pit stop.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah, we do.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Gay first.

[Nori Reed]

Yep.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Because it's like, I'm gay. And then it's like, okay, what's the feedback here? Yeah, we're clear. I'm trans. Yeah, it's. You know. But no, at that point, I didn't even know I was trans. I really just thought I was a gay guy.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

And then where did you move after college?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

After college, I went to New York.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And that's when I. I started. I worked at a community health center that was lgt. LGBT focused, you know, Calen Lord. No, it's like a LGBT health center.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, God.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And there. No, I started working with trans people for the first time. It was my first kind of education.

[Nori Reed]

Introduction, but not, like, owning the trans label yet. But you're just meeting.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Not even. I was meeting these people, and I had such an adoration and respect that it started to feel a little suspicious of. Like, why am I so enamored by. By. By trans people? And it's not sexual. There's no, you know, it's not like a. It's just like, I have such a deep, profound respect. And then, I mean, slowly, I had to, you know, start exploring that with. With a therapist.

[Nori Reed]

Okay, so you had therapy.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You had therapy and then was very like, oh, I think I. I am trans. And I will say that that therapist.

[Nori Reed]

You are trans. You know that. Tick tock audio. Okay, well, there we go.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But, like, this therapist was actually not supportive. Oh, isn't that crazy?

[Nori Reed]

In New York City.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

In New York City. She was like, I don't think you are. And I was like, oh, well, I think I am. And she was like, no, let's have.

[Nori Reed]

Her on the Dylan Hour. Could you imagine? And everyone.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And she's here. She's here.

[Nori Reed]

He'd be like, Dr. Dr. Phil. Wait, did you know Maury Povich died?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

When?

[Nori Reed]

I think, like, last year. Did he what? Somebody. I was going through all the dead celebrities recently, and he was on that list, and I was shocked because I think this would have been such a Maury Povich moment.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

If she came out and you started.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Fighting also with us, kind of like, that's a man.

[Nori Reed]

Exactly. But then. And then if. If you were to punch her, it would like. We're not supposed to because we're trans women.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We can't punch people.

[Nori Reed]

We can't punch.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Are you kidding me? Dylan?

[Nori Reed]

Okay, Dylan, here. Let's get.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You have a platform now.

[Nori Reed]

Let's get this right here at the Dylan Hour. I never said anything was true. I never said. We're fact checking.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, my God. Jerry Springer.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. Did he die?

[Nori Reed]

Okay, he died. Maury is alive and well. Jerry Springer is dead.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I like, I like that. This podcast is, like, breaking news from, like, four months ago. It's like. It's like, breaking four months ago.

[Nori Reed]

And I think this could have been even longer than that. Actually. Jerry Springer has passed, and I.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Should we take a moment?

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Nori Reed]

In the arms of the angel. That's all he deserves. Oh, love you, Jerry. How about this therapist? Did you say, like, once you said that I'm trans? And she's like, no, you aren't. Did you run for the hills and get out of there?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, I guess. Where I ran to San Francisco. Oh, well, I went to San Francisco.

[Nori Reed]

The Castro.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, I lived in the East Bay. But I mean it in my brain. So when I was, like, little, I had seen something on, like, TV about a trans woman living in San Francisco.

[Nori Reed]

So that's where you thought you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And it always. It was in there. And I was like, well, let me go to San Francisco. And I went. And I went to school to be a therapist.

[Nori Reed]

That's where I went for, like, what degree?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

For a marriage and family therapist. And I went for one year and I dropped out.

[Nori Reed]

Did you ever get the chance to really, like, work it out on someone?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, here's the thing. The reason why I dropped out on.

[Nori Reed]

The remix right now.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Let's work on the remix with my old therapist.

[Nori Reed]

Do you see my. My feet slowly Crouching, like, encroaching to lay in your lap.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I love that.

[Nori Reed]

Okay, cool. I know you're tired, so you can also do the same if you want. You don't have to open your eyes. You can just sleep if you want.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No, no, no. I would never. So basically, what made me drop out? Well, I mean, there's a number of things, but when I. What. What I hit was we had reached a point in our education where we need to start practicing therapy on each other.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So we split into groups, and I was with a very lovely white woman named Michelle.

[Nori Reed]

Hi, Michelle.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Who has a trust fund. And so basically, we don't, like.

[Nori Reed]

They don't like that sister. They don't like the sis. They want. Just rich.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, she's rich. She's rich. She's rich. And basically what happened is that we were in groups. Our professor said, it's our first time doing therapy. Let's keep it light. Let's keep it. Nothing too crazy, right? Professor says, go. Michelle immediately is in tears. And she goes, I was a preemie. And I was like, oh, okay.

[Nori Reed]

Big on it, girl.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And she was like, I was so small. And I was like, okay, all right. And she was like, my purpose in life is preemie justice. And I thought to myself, I said, I. I think we're doing a lot for those little guys, actually, because we put. We put them in the boxes, and we put stuff in there for him.

[Nori Reed]

Like, claw machine almost.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Dropping it in.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We drop stuff in there. And that was my breaking point, because I. I realized if I were to go through with this and do the years of training and get all this debt and I have to do this job, the way I would make my living is listening to women like Michelle. And I'd have to sit there and give real compassion for her preemie problems. Even though she was so rich, so.

[Nori Reed]

Wealthy, so fine, she had to find something.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She needed something. And I was like, preemie justice. Like, this was during, like, when Black Lives Matter was, like, really, like, in the forefront of our society and, like, was, like, a little offensive a little bit.

[Nori Reed]

Wow. Somewhere right now. Michelle. You know what? Let's pour one out for Michelle's therapist.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Right?

[Nori Reed]

That's who we need. That's actually the special guest that should walk through the door, because I'm imagining.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It'S kind of like my countertops are dirty. Just stuff like that.

[Nori Reed]

My best friend's husband.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Help.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'd love if that happened.

[Nori Reed]

So that was kind of your. Then you said, oh, I can get up on stage and tell people about Michelle.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, yeah, so I dropped out because I really. I had a moment of. Oh. And it corresponded with me being, like. I said that point. Oh, I. I skipped a little step there. When I was in school, I identified as non binary.

[Nori Reed]

Oh. T same.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I had a lot of stops along the journey.

[Nori Reed]

So many coming outs. It's embarrassing, right? So embarrassing.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I, like, went to my first Sephora. I got makeup. I was like, I'm non binary. I'd like, you know, So I was.

[Nori Reed]

Like, boys, let's take you to that section.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. I was a gay guy with. With makeup.

[Nori Reed]

House labs.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, yeah, House labs. Ariana Grande stuff.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, yeah. She loves non binary people.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

All that stuff. And then when I dropped out of school, I said, you know what? I'm actually a trans woman. Let's do this. And I started doing all the stuff.

[Nori Reed]

All the stuff. When did. When did you get to la, this amazing city?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Preemies, probably.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. Well, I started doing stand up in. Actually, this is so. This is actually kind of cool. The way I started stand up is I. I did a program for trans women of color to learn how to do stand up. Oh. Which could only be the Bay Area. That's so. That's so Bay Area.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But guess. Guess who's my classmate. Who? Nava Mao.

[Nori Reed]

Shut up.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

From baby reindeer.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

From baby reindeer.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, I just met her, and she's so lovely.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She's so amazing. She's one of my. She's one of my oldest friends.

[Nori Reed]

She want to do stand up before.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Acting like she did stand up.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, she does it all.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She's hilarious. And then she also just went in a more dramatic route, but she, like, is literally incredible. And so we met in that program. That's how I became friends. And we, like, stayed in touch or whatever. But. Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

And then you came down here.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Came down here.

[Nori Reed]

So basically Illuminati. Be honest.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, yes.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. They haven't let me in. They said I talk a little too much. You're. You're better about that. You've got more of a. Like, a private. You. You keep your stuff on stage.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, well, they only let in, like, I think, like, three trans people a year.

[Nori Reed]

You Laverne Nava. Yeah. So that was you, actually, you got her in.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I did. And. But next year, I think it's you.

[Nori Reed]

Well, I'm trying. I've been backpedaling a little bit, but now that I've got a podcast, they're getting. They're getting a little nervous. The Illuminati.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They. They being Illuminati.

[Nori Reed]

They sent out a. They sent out. I'm surprised that you're on with us right now. They said, don't go on the Dylan Hour.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They emailed me, but I said, I'm doing it. I'm going.

[Nori Reed]

That is very sweet of you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Of course. Well. But what happened was I was doing standup, loving it, but also not really catching a break, Just kind of, like, kind of not going anywhere with it. And then I got an email from Amy Poehler that was like, I saw your comedy. Illuminati. I saw your comedy on YouTube, and I want you to open for me for Clusterfest.

[Nori Reed]

Shut up.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then I performed for, like, 10,000 people, and that's what changed my life.

[Nori Reed]

And how long ago was that?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That was 2000. I'm gonna say 18 or 19. I can't remember.

[Nori Reed]

And did you always want to write? Like, was that a thing? Okay. Because now you're, like, writing on television shows.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. So, I mean, I love stand up, but I also. I definitely want to be a TV writer. And then. Yeah. Ravenson was my first gig. Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

And, like, would you ever, like, do you. Would you want to write something that you also act in?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I mean, I'd love. I would love that. I mean, my heart is. I kind of, like, love messy, problematic characters, and I would love a trans character who is, like, kind of sucks.

[Nori Reed]

I could not agree more. And I think people are so scared to, like, not only, like, put trans people in anything right now, but, like, make us look a little messy.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Say that.

[Nori Reed]

I always think, like, I think it'd be great. I want to be in a horror film where I'm the first girl dead. Because then all the Republicans get to. You know, they'll love it. They'll love it. But also my fans will be like, she's in a movie. So I really. And maybe we make me really problematic, too. So that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, everyone's smart, you know? What? Gay reaction. Trans Republican. Oh, yes. Oh, hello, Hollywood.

[Nori Reed]

I wonder what it'd be like to make money off of, like, the far right and telling people that trans people are. Are bad that I could.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Right.

[Nori Reed]

Isn't that so sad?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There's such a weird trans influencer pipeline to being conservative, because at a certain point, they've mined all of the stuff that they can talk about. So then they go, I guess I'm now far right. And it's crazy.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There's all these dolls on the Internet who are like, I have guns. And it's like, what are you doing?

[Nori Reed]

I did one beer ad and it could have gone that way.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank God. Thank God. The backlash. Thank God.

[Nori Reed]

That's what really put. Put a stop to it was. I think that's where we were headed for.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I am. That. That is so funny. That is beyond funny. Wow.

[Nori Reed]

But it is. It's like, I get really sad seeing these, like, Tick Tock. Or like, sometimes I'll have, like my Tick Tock dolls that I'll be like, oh, my God. I. I'll like, see a video or two where I'm like, oh, that's an interesting take. And then I'm like, oh, no, I gotta unfollow.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I know. It's so sad because then they start off as kind of funny.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like, okay. I'm like, you're funny.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And then it's just this, like, trickled. And then suddenly they're. They are far. Right. Unfortunately. And it just.

[Nori Reed]

That must be kind of lonely.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It must be lonely. And you're right. Like at the end of the day when they're, like, taking their makeup off in the mirror, like, what are they thinking about themselves just, like, looking in the mirror. You know what I mean?

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. Well, if. Maybe they got Trump's number in their phone and that's worth it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They're so happy.

[Nori Reed]

They're Illuminati.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We're like, they're so upset. Like, they're. They're at night just going like a $2 million.

[Nori Reed]

I know, but then who pays that? Not Neutrogena.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I mean, box. Nra. I guess they get some nra.

[Nori Reed]

Maybe that's what money really got to get to the bottom.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'd love some NRA money.

[Nori Reed]

Do you ever do brand deals?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I have. Before you want? Not recently. I. Well, I don't know what I would. I don't know.

[Nori Reed]

I'm really individualing. So if you want to make one and we could put brand deals on.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes, I would love to be the face of Ketamine.

[Nori Reed]

That's what it feels like.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Right?

[Nori Reed]

Well, you are the first true public face of Illuminati.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

So the K. Do people call it K?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Sure.

[Nori Reed]

I'm only going on the. I feel like letters are such a thing right now.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

People call K and.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, like sweat. Like, yeah, people do K at the Sweat tour kind of vibe. But I think, like, truly, like, if you wanted, like, what is your favorite brand? That if you did get to represent them, what would you want?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's such a. That's such a good question.

[Nori Reed]

I gotta look down the Barrel and ask.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah, that's you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Let's see here.

[Nori Reed]

Probably nothing related to children since we're trans. And probably nothing sports related.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You know what? No. Nike.

[Nori Reed]

Nike.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think I should be the face of Nike.

[Nori Reed]

I think you should too. I tried to do a sports bra. Kind of like, it went south.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Can you imagine like. Like a commercial that has a seriousness of a Nike commercial.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Where I'm trying to run. I'm trying to run. I'm jogging. I'm. I can barely run. Like, I'd say 0.1 miles.

[Nori Reed]

I'd like to creative direct because I think it should be in a really dark sound stage, you know, where there's just like a little stream of light that moves as you run.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's very dramat.

[Nori Reed]

And. But. And it. You know, they would kind of have to keep pivoting the light based on you not really knowing the direction.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And I think it kind of start a conversation. I don't know what that conversation is.

[Nori Reed]

Let's give them something to talk about. Let's give you harmonize. Something to talk about. Nice. I'll tell. So back to trans rich. What do you like to spend your money on?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It used to be bags, but then I got bored. I don't do that designer. I used to do designer bags. I don't do that no more. It feels. I don't. It doesn't do anything for me. I'm gonna buy a Subaru.

[Nori Reed]

Is that a car?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I've always wanted a Subaru. And I'm. I think there's something psychological that's happening, and I think it might be that I'm coming out as a lesbian.

[Nori Reed]

I was gonna say it sounds like you're a mom.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

A gay. A lesbian mom is what I'm gifting a lesbian mom.

[Nori Reed]

And that's who drives Subarus.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. Well, I would say lesbians.

[Nori Reed]

I don't even want to look at a picture of a Subaru. But how would. Like, what draws someone to that?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would say being gay.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would say being gay. And in Massachusetts is a very. I think that's the epicenter of Subaru in.

[Nori Reed]

Are you in Massachusetts?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I could be that.

[Nori Reed]

You could take the Subaru to that. You probably would drive off the lot to Massachusetts.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's my happy place. My happy place is Northampton. That's where Smith College is. And it's just a bunch of queer people living in the woods.

[Nori Reed]

I'm nervous that I don't know how to say Massachusetts.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You don't. You really don't massage like choo choo.

[Nori Reed]

Massachusetts. Massachusetts.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, this is bad. First Jerry Springer and now Boston.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, you're losing demographics.

[Nori Reed]

Massachusetts. They're gonna try not.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think you.

[Nori Reed]

You gotta go choose.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I like that you say it in a way where you're like, scared.

[Nori Reed]

I'm nervous. This is it. I'm already just follower. The followers in that area just went down. Oh, so you were on bags. You now want a car?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, I'm gonna get a Subaru. I love traveling. I now I can't fly economy anymore. I can't do it. It's good to it. No more.

[Nori Reed]

Never been able to sleep sitting up.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I can't do it. I only. Can only do business. And if that makes anyone angry, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry.

[Nori Reed]

She's writing characters for our people.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I work so hard. I work a lot.

[Nori Reed]

Bringing trans to the mainstream in a way that deserves a little extra comfort room.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank you so much. I'm also like, fat. And I feel like as a fat person, that's. That's justice. Like flying in first class.

[Nori Reed]

And do you always have, like. Do you always take a nap?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No one applauded. No one. No one. No one claps. I said, I say that no one claps. Crazy.

[Nori Reed]

You do, you know, do you always take a nap on there?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Love it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Something I've noticed is flight attendants, I'm noticing sometimes they don't like that I'm there. I can feel it. They're like, you're not supposed to be.

[Nori Reed]

Here to give you the champagne, but.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They have to be so nice to me. And there's something about that that I kind of love that I can tell that they don't want to.

[Nori Reed]

Then there's gonna be a day too, when one of your followers is the flight attendant, and she's gonna be like, we made it. Nori's up here.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's. Wait, that's a. I love that. I can't wait for that to happen. But the last flight I took was in front of me. And when she. When the plane landed, she must have taken. I mean, alleged. I don't know. You know what?

[Nori Reed]

Hey, I think, let's just be really honest already there. There's no sort of fact checking on. On the Dylan hour today.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Let's just say this. I don't know what occurred. All I know is that upon landing, the flight attendant was trying to shake awake and couldn't get her to wake up and was panicking. And then at the last possible second did wake up and was Very angry about what was happening. But the flight attendant was terrified that she was dead.

[Nori Reed]

But. Whereas if she was trying to wake you up and you didn't wake up, she wouldn't keep shoving.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I don't think so. I think it'd be like, okay, this. This makes sense.

[Nori Reed]

I always try to. I always try to. Even if I'm not sleeping, I try to act like I'm still sleeping. And then. Because I want to just lay the entire time, but then they always. 20 minutes early, they make you put the seat down.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes, they always. They love. And they love that.

[Nori Reed]

They love waking you up.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, they love.

[Nori Reed]

And you know when you got a little bit of the foot rest up and you don't think they're gonna see it because you put the blanket over it? And they go. Then, no, they don't even say anything. They just press the fucking button.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They love to press it.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, they press it without consent.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They don't even give you the option of doing it. They go, like. And they look at you.

[Nori Reed]

That's the high of their day.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They love that. Also, you know what? A lot of gratitude to all the flight attendants out there who are serving us, and thank you so much, and we apologize.

[Nori Reed]

Are you a Delta girl?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

Me too.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Delta one.

[Nori Reed]

I'm obsessed with Delta. How about. Where was your last? Didn't you just do a big trip to, like, Japan?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I did. I did. I did a show, and I also just traveled.

[Nori Reed]

You did comedy?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I did. I had a really. I love performing in Japan. I do it at a club that's, like, expats mixed with people who are Japanese who, like, live in Japan. And it's always such a fun, like, mix of culture. The last time I did a show, there was one gay Japanese guy in the audience, and I got to ask a lot of questions about being trans.

[Nori Reed]

Just fishing around, checking the time.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I got to ask him a lot of questions about just, like, trans people in Japan and got a lot of good info, which was great.

[Nori Reed]

What did we hear?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So I was. I was like. I was like, are there trans people here? And he was like, yes. And I was like, well, what do they do? And he was like, clown.

[Nori Reed]

Like, actual clowning?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. He was like, they're like celebrities and, like, clowns, but which.

[Nori Reed]

I was like, celebrity.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hi.

[Nori Reed]

Here is. But there's no. Like, you're not going to, like. Like, there's not like, trans clubs or anywhere? Like, like, no, it's not like that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It's very underground. I mean, there are.

[Nori Reed]

How does the passport stuff like, are they cool, though?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Like.

[Nori Reed]

Or does it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, no, I think. I think they are liberal in that way. It's just that there isn't it. There's not. It's not kind of in the.

[Nori Reed]

Did you go to any of, like, the. The spas or the bath houses?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I didn't. I didn't feel comfortable.

[Nori Reed]

Well, that's.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I.

[Nori Reed]

Well, first of all, I have a tattoo, so that was already working 100%. And then I also have girl dick, which is also an issue in some places. Yeah, most for. But have you ever been a wee spa?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I haven't, but I. I will not.

[Nori Reed]

I used to love it, but now I don't. I don't go because I don't feel.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But aren't they. I feel like they're. They've been traditionally very supportive of trans people.

[Nori Reed]

Really?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. So there was a trans woman that was verbally attacked by another woman, and the Wii spa was on the trans woman's side.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's Good.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. 100 and we spa and we'll do ketamine.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, I think it's the place to go for queer people. They. They are very queer.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, that's exciting.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, I think this is a really good time to segue to our next segment. What a girl wants. What a girl wants. Nori Reed, what do you want in your life right now? Could be anything.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I mean, I. I think it's very cliche, but I think dating is always really hard.

[Nori Reed]

As a trans woman speak on it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would love to do. Have a partner. I think I. Every time I go on a podcast now, I look directly in the camera and I say, if you're a very nice person, if you're a kind person, reach out. Because I, you know, I really am open to that.

[Nori Reed]

That is. Oh, my God. I want the Dylan Hour to just strictly be a place where I invite people that I think deserve to be in serious relationships to be like, to say that also. And if you want me, that's also probably an option. So do you think DM is the way DM message request.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. And if you want both of us at the same time, that's a lot of.

[Nori Reed]

It's a little extra possible.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But we'll do it.

[Nori Reed]

We'll do it. We'll travel.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We'll travel.

[Nori Reed]

Only business class has to be dealt the one.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Dealt the one.

[Nori Reed]

And okay, so a relationship.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. And I just started reading this book called the Rules.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The Rules.

[Nori Reed]

Have you heard of this? Oh, it's.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What are the rules.

[Nori Reed]

It's, like, deeply problematic. So it's a dating book from, I think, the 80s, and two women wrote it. Can I talk to you through some.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Is the first one, like, b. Cis like, be a CIS woman?

[Nori Reed]

That's how you know. They definitely did not write it for trans women.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But tell me.

[Nori Reed]

You can't. Like, if we're in a bar dancing, you can't go up to a guy first.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Nori Reed]

You can't call first.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, yeah. Okay.

[Nori Reed]

You can't have sex till after the third or fourth date.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That doesn't make sense.

[Nori Reed]

You can't talk too much.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, okay.

[Nori Reed]

And you can't really, like, be yourself too much.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Never. Don't do that.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. So I'm gonna start trying that.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. Will you. Do you want to practice?

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. I'll. So I'll be the. I'll be the. I'll. I'll be the. The man.

[Nori Reed]

Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hi.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, I wasn't supposed to say anything first.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay, first of all, it. It's over. It's already over.

[Nori Reed]

Rules broken.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay, so let's. I'm. Sis. I like that.

[Nori Reed]

I can't have sex with you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What about the second date?

[Nori Reed]

No.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Will you marry me?

[Nori Reed]

And that is how the rules work.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It worked.

[Nori Reed]

But. Okay, so that girl. I would like a relationship too, but my. What a girl wants was different. It was. I want to make cruises chic again.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, do. Do you cruise?

[Nori Reed]

Like, what kind of cruising?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Sorry, I meant boat. I meant.

[Nori Reed]

Me, too.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Me too. I meant boat. No, I've never done a cruise. I've always wanted to.

[Nori Reed]

Should we go on a singles. No. I've got an idea. What if. I think. I don't know if we're at this level of celebrity, but what if we hosted a singles cruise?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

For trans chasers.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. And for trans women and trans chasers.

[Nori Reed]

It has to be probably celebrity cruise lines or Royal Caribbean. Feels also kind of transcoded for trans.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Women and the people that love them.

[Nori Reed]

Yes. That want them. Obviously, trans women, they don't have to pay. And then the people that want to date us have to pay double.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. And is there a vetting process to make sure they're not, like, crazy? Um, no. No, no.

[Nori Reed]

That doesn't sound as fun. And I think we have to do a casino night. Like a Bond kind of casino night.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay. Wait. I kind of love this, by the way.

[Nori Reed]

Well, I was just thinking about, like, cruises, I think, you know, used to be these really kind of, like, hot, fun things.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

You've never done one.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I've never. But I'm interested. I'm curious. I'm cruise curious.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, yeah? Yeah. I used to. Well, the last time I was on a cruise, me and my stepdad had a big blowout over the late night dessert bar.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And what was that fight about?

[Nori Reed]

I think it really had to do with me not wanting him to marry my mom. But instead it was that it was like 12:30 and at midnight, after midnight. How do you. Is it 12:30 at night or in the morning?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, that's a great question. I would say maybe the night still.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. Okay.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I don't. I don't know.

[Nori Reed]

So it was 12:30 at night, and he was like, you need to go to bed. You can't be doing the dessert bar. And I said, fuck you. You're not my dad.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God. How old were you?

[Nori Reed]

I was 11 or 12.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So he was right.

[Nori Reed]

So he was right. Haven't been on a cruise since and.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, no. So is that like. Cause it's like. It's trauma.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. But I think now I can have sex and drink alcohol, which I've heard is very good to do on cruises.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

It might be very empowering and very healing for you.

[Nori Reed]

What about the Titanic?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

The one that's on the bottom of the town? Oh, I don't. No, I don't. Well, no.

[Nori Reed]

You know what also be really funny? A voyage down to the Titanic in one of those submersibles and then we die. It's you, me, Laverne Cox, Nava. It has to be Nava. Ethel Kane, because she can sing.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Kim Petras would be funny.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But, like, what happens when the world's greatest trans minds are destroyed at once?

[Nori Reed]

You know who's paying for that voyage? The far right.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

They want that.

[Nori Reed]

So if.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And they want that.

[Nori Reed]

And you know what? Actually, I'm nervous about this cruise now too. We can't have too many of us.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Dolls on this cruise is okay, because there's. With Modern times, there's. If the Titanic had, like, helicopters and stuff, they'd be okay because the helicopters would go, you know, like, take them.

[Nori Reed]

Are there helicopters on cruises these days?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There could, yes.

[Nori Reed]

For trans cruises, probably.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think they'd have them around. They're around.

[Nori Reed]

They're around.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There's. In modern Times, there's a way to get us off of that cruise if it's going down, you know, well.

[Nori Reed]

And if not, you. Can you swim?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. We're gonna be fine. Jack and Rose. We'll find a door.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think we're fine. I think no submer I think submersible. No.

[Nori Reed]

I'm just now getting a little nervous about us allowing anyone on this trans cruise because.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So it's just us on the boat.

[Nori Reed]

It might just be us.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Nori Reed]

Or what if it was all just trans people?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I like that. Probably better than the chasers being there.

[Nori Reed]

I know. Maybe. But if they paid for it, we'll pay for it. You know what? That's our car.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You know what?

[Nori Reed]

Our version of activism.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

We're gonna be paying for a cruise for trans people.

[Nori Reed]

Is it going to be this year? Maybe not.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No.

[Nori Reed]

Next.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Probably not either.

[Nori Reed]

2044, hopefully. If we, if we sell some, then maybe. Yeah. Face of Nike. What if we got Nike to sponsor?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I hope they would.

[Nori Reed]

I'll reach out to a beer brand.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. Do you, can you still do that?

[Nori Reed]

Next. Do you ever get hit with a cringy memory of your 13 year old self out of nowhere and suddenly you're panic sweating and laughing at the same time?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Don't, don't worry, don't worry. We all get that.

[Nori Reed]

It's because being an adolescent is one of the most visceral shared experiences we have as people.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And we want to talk about it.

[Nori Reed]

Join me, Penn Badgley, and my two friends Nava and Sophie on podcrushed as we interview celebrity guests about the joys and horrors of being a teenager and.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

How those moments made them who they are today.

[Nori Reed]

New episodes of PodCrush are out now, wherever you get your podcasts.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

DC versus Marvel, Android versus iPhone. John Williams versus Hans Zimmer. You may have had these pop culture debates with your friends, but I know you didn't have me weighing in with a verdict. I'm Ronald Young Jr. And as the host of Pop Culture Debate Club, I'm here to listen to the arguments, ask some questions and ultimately pick a winner.

[Nori Reed]

Listen to Pop Culture Debate Club wherever.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You get your podcasts from Liminata Media and the BBC Foreign Hour.

[Nori Reed]

So here at the Dylan Hour, we've honestly, we've done a lot of oversharing already.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, I would say.

[Nori Reed]

I would say so. But we have a segment called Overshare, don't care and it is a lightning round of 10 questions. There's going to be a timer going under you. You've got two minutes. Are you ready to answer them? Rapid fire?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

She sipped the yuzu and ready, go. Pre show ritual makeup after party or curl up in bed.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

McDonald's and then curl up in bed.

[Nori Reed]

New York or La La. Psychologist or psychiatrist or psychic.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Psychic.

[Nori Reed]

See a movie in a theater or Watch it at home theater, baby.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I just got a list.

[Nori Reed]

Call or text?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Text.

[Nori Reed]

Gay bar.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Straight gay bar.

[Nori Reed]

Tick tock. Or Instagram?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Tick tock. I hate Instagram. Makes me. I can't do Instagram right now.

[Nori Reed]

Crowd work or written material?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Ooh, crowd work when I should be doing more written material.

[Nori Reed]

Do you have a hear me out crush?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hear me out. J.D. vance. I'm kidding.

[Nori Reed]

As we're sitting on this couch. He loved this velvet.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

J.D. vance.

[Nori Reed]

Okay, that was all 10. That was crazy. No, give me. Do you have, like, a real. Hear me out.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, real. Hear me out. I'm. I'm one who's never ashamed of, like, my actual crushes.

[Nori Reed]

You love who you love.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I love who I love.

[Nori Reed]

I was watching Halloween Town, and I thought the skeleton looked pretty hot, Right?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

There's something really hot about a skeleton.

[Nori Reed]

But you watch Halloween Town.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Not recently.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. You think you know what it is, and then you re. Watch it, and you said, oh, I.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Really would love to rewatch it.

[Nori Reed]

But then you forget everything immediately after it ends.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I just burped because of the huezu, and I'm so sorry. I love. That was crazy. Is that. Is that an ASMR thing where people burp? I think that that was crazy.

[Nori Reed]

It all flies here. Jerry Springer's with us. So back to. Also, one of the questions I asked you. Did you actually go to a psychic?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I love psychics. My grandmother was a psychic.

[Nori Reed]

Really?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Really? Like, truly. She was a Korean shaman. A Mudong.

[Nori Reed]

Holy.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I know.

[Nori Reed]

Wait, Tell. You don't understand. Psychics are my favorite thing in the entire world.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think that's why I'm trans. I'm not even kidding. Because it skips a generation, so my mother never embraced it. And in that tradition, if a generation doesn't embrace it, it gets extra double the next one. And Mudongs are basically transgender. They're. They're. They don't have any gender. They're. They transcend gender. They. They're like, everything.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. So your grandma.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Could see things.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She did, like, whenever people wanted to speak to their, like, loved ones.

[Nori Reed]

Who's asked?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, she'd be the medium for that.

[Nori Reed]

What is my grandpa saying right now?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

He's saying that don't go in the submersible. He's saying something about it not being safe. He said something about, grandpa, don't do G anymore. Oh, and I think he said something also. One last thing. It's do. Do another beer commercial.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, that. That sounds.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

He actually want. He wants you to do another beer commercial.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. He's. You know what? He always was a very stubborn person that. That he kind of pushed us to do things.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I think he. He wants a different one, maybe a European brand. Oh, Is what I'm getting. I'm getting European beer.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Heineken or.

[Nori Reed]

She's good. I'm just curious how if the therapy session was 700, how much your psychic services are.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's kind of like. We don't even talk about it.

[Nori Reed]

No, it's one of those.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I just said.

[Nori Reed]

You ever. But have you now gone to any of those, like, those expensive psychics here?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

No, but I have friends who like. Like, they have, like. Lana Del Rey's psychic.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. I got the Kardashians.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

What?

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, my God.

[Nori Reed]

What is this one?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, Lana Del Rey has a psychic who lives here in la, and I went to her house for a party because she has really cool clients. But, yeah, they make a lot of money.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, my God.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I should just do that. Why am I doing this? Well, no, not that Spotcast. I'm so sorry.

[Nori Reed]

No, but why?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You shouldn't be there.

[Nori Reed]

I was thinking, too. I don't really think therapy is necessary if you're seeing a psychic regularly.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I agree. I. I would agree. Well, okay.

[Nori Reed]

If psychics could administer hormones, it would be over for all of us.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

That's very. That's so. That's the funniest thing I've ever heard in my life. If I like the psychics giving hormones. It's so funny.

[Nori Reed]

100 milligrams.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She's like.

[Nori Reed]

She's just grabbing your tits. This is a visual podcast.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. For those of us who do want to watch progesterone. We're gonna do progesterone.

[Nori Reed]

Progesterone fucked me up. I couldn't.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I. I don't do progesterone.

[Nori Reed]

That made me so sad.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

God. Okay, we have our last segment here at the Dylan Hour is Last Call Confessions. We have a call from a lovely person. Oh, my God. Who wants a little advice or they want to tell us something.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm excited.

[Nori Reed]

And you being a therapist, this feels really. Correct.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Hello, honey.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Hi. So I'm 24, and I was just living in the mountains, and I was having, like, this really beautiful relationship and this wonderful time. Like, I was, like, living the dream out in basically the middle of nowhere with my boyfriend and, like, really starting to build my life out with him. And I found out that he was cheating on me, and so I left. And now I'm living with my parents back in the Midwest, which is not the ideal situation. And I'm kind of in this place where I had like, an idea of where my life was going in my path, and it just totally.

[Nori Reed]

I feel like the rug got pulled.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Out from under me and I don't know what to do or where I'm going. Like, the world is my oyster. But that's also so paralyzing sometimes to.

[Nori Reed]

Have all the options.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And so I guess my question or my advice would be like, how do I make a decision on what to do next? Like, how. How do I move forward?

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Thank you. Love you. Love ya.

[Nori Reed]

Wow.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I have real advice.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. Give it.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

One of the best things I've ever heard is make a decision and then make it the right decision.

[Nori Reed]

Oh. So it's. There's no raw. Like you just commit.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

You, You. You have a curiosity. You follow that curiosity and then that's the right curiosity. It's. There is no right. There's no right decision. Wrong decision. That, That I like. We like to think about life that way because it gives us a little more sense of control. But in reality, it's kind of like we gotta do what excites us and then we. We do it with everything we have.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And so I feel like she's looking at life in a way, or. I'm sorry, I don't know their gender. They're looking at life in a way that is. It sounds very scary because it's just what's wide open space. But I would just. What I would say to this person is to what are you curious about right now? And follow that. Follow that curiosity.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah. That was good advice.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Wow.

[Nori Reed]

Good therapist. I. I would say that what I'm excited about with. For this person is that they still have this sense of optimism because I think when something like shit like that happens and it sounds like they have children maybe. Did you hear that piece?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh, I did. I.

[Nori Reed]

No, No. I thought they moved their kids. Wow. Okay. So ADHD rampant, or you're a psychic.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

And you're kind of picking up on.

[Nori Reed]

Something like they're having a child. I really love that they are able to be excited about this next chapter.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes.

[Nori Reed]

And the fact that they're, you know, they're ready for whatever it's going to be. I love the fact that the decision making. Can it. Can you go with the right decision? Because I get so tripped up on same. It's bad.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. I'm an overthinker.

[Nori Reed]

Yes. Don't overthink. And. Oh, the midway. They're in the Midwest right now.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah. With their parents.

[Nori Reed]

Good. And don't rush into maybe to the next relationship.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I. I was thinking the same thing too. That maybe it. It might be. But also you can't. We have. We have no control over the men.

[Nori Reed]

There are good.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

If. If a good man or person comes that person's life then you know, be it, so be it. I would also say based off what you're saying, this person said the world is my oyster. Almost. Almost like in a joking way. No, honey, I would really claim that. Claim. I love oysters.

[Nori Reed]

Oh, me too.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I love oysters.

[Nori Reed]

Could we have them on our cruise?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I. That sounds a little dangerous.

[Nori Reed]

Also being stomach wise by chasers on a cruise is so crazy to think about. Hey, even if you aren't trans, this person can come on the cruise.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I would. I would like this person to come in 2044.

[Nori Reed]

That might be actually what the right decision is.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yes. In 2044.

[Nori Reed]

2044. That's the first thing they're gonna do after this breakup.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I like that.

[Nori Reed]

It's so good. Nori Reid.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

This was one of the funnest hours of my life.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh my God.

[Nori Reed]

I. I can't wait to hang out with you more. And please, what. Where can people find you? What are you excited about in your life right now?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah, well, you know, I still perform all around Lake Girls Transit Girls.

[Nori Reed]

Gotta get there. You're. And your partner on that is Hayden Johnson. Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

She's actually the one that. That stays with me when I do my Ketamine. Oh, so she's a dear, dear friend.

[Nori Reed]

Yes.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But I'm performing all around town. If you want to check out a show, follow me on Instagram, Nori Reid. So that you can find out when.

[Nori Reed]

The show is Tick Tock. Which you famously said you like way more than Instagram.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Well, I like. I like watching TikTok more. I'm more activ. On Instagram.

[Nori Reed]

Yeah.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

But I just. I also. Instagram is not doing it for me right these days.

[Nori Reed]

Interesting. Howard, do you feel the opposite?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

So okay.

[Nori Reed]

Tick Tock. I feel like the algorithm is not on my side right now. Wow.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Okay.

[Nori Reed]

And I feel like cuz it's a lot of. I'm seeing a lot of like Grey's Anatomy episodes from like maybe 10 years ago, you know, in 50 parts together.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Oh yes. And do we watch them all? I do.

[Nori Reed]

I do.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

And it's really frustrating because I wanted to go on there to see the, you know, my little impression beauty influencers that I follow. Don't see them anymore. Only Grey's anatomy but Instagram. I love a picture. I love a beautiful picture. I love a little story. They don't feel as permanent as tick tocks, which is nice and it's true. Tick tock stories just don't hit the same way for me. Yeah, but they can find you on on there.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Find me on there. Find me on wherever you find me.

[Nori Reed]

Wherever you find you.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'm on there.

[Nori Reed]

Your veil.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay, everyone, this has been an amazing episode of the Dylan Hour. We hope you subscribe and find us on all the things and I feel therapized.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Good.

[Nori Reed]

Now you got to give me that. That psychics number.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

I'd be happy to. Yeah.

[Nori Reed]

Okay. We love you, especially the flight attendants to Jerry Springer's family. We send you love condolences. The Illuminati is probably not real. Well, we don't know actually. I don't know. I just get nervous about them.

[Dylan Mulvaney]

Can we get a close up?

[Nori Reed]

Oh, fuck. Okay, that was. I'll do the sound effect. Wait, one more time. Want even more of the Dylan Hour?

[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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[Nori Reed]

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[Dylan Mulvaney]

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