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Dylan Mulvaney
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Kat Cohen
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Dylan Mulvaney
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Kat Cohen
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Dylan Mulvaney
The reason why I'm getting emotional is I didn't want to leave you.
Kat Cohen
I never thought I would be this way again.
Dylan Mulvaney
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Kat Cohen
In your car, in the shower, on a walk through the Dylan Hour. Feeling sweet, feeling sour. I feel nothing. The dealing hour. My couch is open. It's better than therapy. All ya soccer moms, all your they's and thems all your bottom boys. My bisexual femmes come one and all disassociate with me. It's free, grab a drink or two or three. You have no friends. All good, you got me.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's the deal in hour.
Kat Cohen
Love y. Hello governor, Top of the morning to you. I hope, I hope it's a good time.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh my God, it's a good time.
Kat Cohen
She's so. My, my guest today is like already mortified. She's like walking off the set right now.
Dylan Mulvaney
I am calling a hospital. I'm calling.
Kat Cohen
She's calling the hospital because my girl crush is here. But specifically my girl crush that is also maybe equally, if not more obsessed with the UK that than I am. And. But what's funny about us having a UK themed episode this week is we don't have a British person on. Well, that could be debated throughout. We'll find out on the pod today. She is one of my favorite comedians. Also, I'm so nervous because she has my favorite podcast and she's been hosting this podcast for so long. I've been listening to like every single episode and Now I have to interview her, which feels so crazy. And oh my God, I probably been following her for at least five years, maybe longer. Podcast co host seeks treatment. You have done. You got your special out on Netflix called the Twist. She's gorgeous one on Veeps that just came out come for me, which I've seen, I think I saw multiple times in person. An album that just came out. Music.
Dylan Mulvaney
Overdressed music.
Kat Cohen
Yes. Also guest starring on Only Murders in the Building. And I have been harassing her to put out more music and now it's out on Spotify.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh my God.
Kat Cohen
So we have to listen, everyone. It's Cat Co. It's Cat Cohen.
Dylan Mulvaney
Gals. So confusing sometimes to be a G. Oh my God, I feel so taken care of by that beautiful intro.
Kat Cohen
Well, honey, I also for all of those listening just know that we are in matching little. What I can only describe is like Madeline meets Eloise. The Plaza meets like the Lindsay Lohan in the Parent Trap, but the British one.
Dylan Mulvaney
And this happened by chance. We both showed up today wearing so ridiculous.
Kat Cohen
It's so insane.
Dylan Mulvaney
We're getting going to stop you because we're having a little flashing situation. Oh, let them. Let them look. Let them look.
Kat Cohen
Let them look. I've been notified by the UK government that my puss was showing in this. This last cut. And so we're going to figure out how to edit that in post. Or maybe not.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, you know, I'm playing with fire. I'm playing with fire with my certain only fans. Yeah. Oh, my God. This is it, finally.
Kat Cohen
Except it's all UK themed, so it's like it's us and Ginger Spice outfits.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my God. The Spice Girls invented me. But do you remember where you were when you heard the Spice Girl?
Kat Cohen
Well, I. I remember doing hard drugs for the first time to. Is it wannabe?
Dylan Mulvaney
Sure.
Kat Cohen
I was.
Dylan Mulvaney
I was gonna say I'm a grand six years old.
Kat Cohen
That's not a Trader.
Dylan Mulvaney
Trader Joe's.
Kat Cohen
I was gonna go that's not a Trader Joe's song.
Dylan Mulvaney
Taylor Swift to mix up Trader Joe's.
Kat Cohen
Taylor Swift. Trader Joe's. And Taylor Swift is full of botomy. Also. I already love that this. We. We talk real fast.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I know. No one can listen to this.
Kat Cohen
No, not one ear.
Dylan Mulvaney
You know what we're saying? You're sick. You need. God, you need to go to the hospital.
Kat Cohen
Yeah. Get off this. Get off the.
Dylan Mulvaney
Honey, couldn't be more excited to be here with you.
Kat Cohen
First of all, we have a drink for us.
Dylan Mulvaney
Wait, what?
Kat Cohen
So it's in a cute little teacup. And stop, everyone. We got her a Diet Coke.
Dylan Mulvaney
But I adore a D.C. we're calling.
Kat Cohen
It the only Coke we dabble in because we're so fun. We don't need cocaine. Diet Coke. But in teacups, which makes it British asmr. Get it?
Dylan Mulvaney
Close my short stubby nails. Coke, Coke, Diet Coke, Coca Cola.
Kat Cohen
How's your British accent?
Dylan Mulvaney
Good. Why? You want to hear it?
Kat Cohen
I don't know. Just. I feel like.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, it's all. I just watched so much Love island that it's. I learned it by osmosis. I watched all seasons during the amazing pandemic.
Kat Cohen
Cheers.
Dylan Mulvaney
Cheers, love.
Kat Cohen
Oh, I kind of poured a lot in mine.
Dylan Mulvaney
You know what my new obsession is, too, is the people on TikTok who get chippy tea. Have they come across your desk?
Kat Cohen
No. What's chippy tea?
Dylan Mulvaney
Chippy tea is these British people who get. Get like, fish and chips takeout, and then they, like, show it to you and it looks really good.
Kat Cohen
Lily's obsessed with that.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Also, how is Lily? You know, she's so good.
Dylan Mulvaney
I miss her. I invited her to the event, you know.
Kat Cohen
Oh, she. Well, she was in.
Dylan Mulvaney
She didn't come through New York.
Kat Cohen
We were just. But actually, this is part of our next segment. Bittersweet. Me and Lily went to Texas this past weekend. Where you're from.
Dylan Mulvaney
Isn't that buck wild?
Kat Cohen
Literally, from there for that. And I. My. My bitter was that I was so nervous that Ted Cruz was going to just find me and just, like, lock me up and. And not that, like, I was doing, like. But I didn't even jaywalk this weekend. Like, I was so.
Dylan Mulvaney
Such a good girl.
Kat Cohen
I was such a good girl. And I did. I did drink heavily with Chelsea Handler, but other than he had nothing on me. And I made it back. I only did my Instagram post right as I touched down. Lax.
Dylan Mulvaney
You're safe.
Kat Cohen
I'm safe.
Dylan Mulvaney
Welcome home.
Kat Cohen
And then my sweet of the week is. Oh, my God. Well, I think it's just you being in la, because I think what's tricky about our friendship is, like, we're. We would be like a Lister best friend. I know, but we don't live in the same city.
Dylan Mulvaney
I know. But also, you have to admit that it wouldn't matter where we live because you're always flying around the world. And I love to traverse the globe as well.
Kat Cohen
But that's the thing.
Dylan Mulvaney
We're Globetrotters.
Kat Cohen
It feels like we might just end up in either Edinburgh and. Or London together.
Dylan Mulvaney
Whenever we meet, it's somewhere where we don't even live.
Kat Cohen
We don't live.
Dylan Mulvaney
And that's. So we don't live. We're not alive.
Kat Cohen
No.
Dylan Mulvaney
And that is so beautiful.
Kat Cohen
Never were.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I know. So we. We met officially in la, but we really connected over the summer when I. You absolutely come to life in the assembly bar at the Edinburgh French Whistle. You guys have never seen anything like this there. It's called, like, to really. Really make a space. To bring a space alive with your personality. That's what you did.
Kat Cohen
This was like the Baby Reindeer Bar, as I call it.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my God.
Kat Cohen
Because it's just so dark. But, like, it's totally. But, like, truly. Don't you think that's kind of what it is?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, I guess so. I guess so. I mean, when I think baby Ranger, I think of other things besides fun and merriment, but definitely. Shout out. Shout out.
Kat Cohen
But, like, there was like. Do you know there's the only reference people have to, like, Edinburgh to the Fringe Festival. I know that. I mean, I saw you. You kind of stroll in, in sometimes, like, either, like a sweater situation, like a. Like a hoodie.
Dylan Mulvaney
Because I'm. I'm like.
Kat Cohen
You have a boyfriend?
Dylan Mulvaney
No, but it's not even about that. It's about, like, I'm off the court or I'm on the court.
Kat Cohen
Right.
Dylan Mulvaney
And I was off the court.
Kat Cohen
Okay. I was. No, I think I was actually more on the court in that bar than I was on the court on stage.
Dylan Mulvaney
You left it all on the court the whole summer.
Kat Cohen
But did I get laid?
Dylan Mulvaney
100%. Every night I go, what's going on? You making out with that person? I'm looking out with that person. You're so lucky.
Kat Cohen
Do you remember the last night of.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yes. Did you go to the mountain?
Kat Cohen
I didn't go. But did you see the. Oh, that little Aussie that was in the treadmill show that I could have gone home with, but then I didn't because he wanted to hike the mountain first.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's a good decision.
Kat Cohen
But then stood me up in Amsterdam.
Dylan Mulvaney
Called you that person.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, if someone makes you hike a mountain to have sex with them, they're not the person.
Kat Cohen
You're not wrong.
Dylan Mulvaney
Right?
Kat Cohen
Yeah. Talk me through your bitters and sweets of the week.
Dylan Mulvaney
The bittersweets of the week. I've had way more sweets than bitters. I've been here in la, seeing all my dearest friends through a huge party for my album release. That was sweet. Sweet. Sweet as candy, sweet as pie. Bitter is that I never learned how to parallel park because I'm from Texas, rented a car. I love to drive. Camp park.
Kat Cohen
Wow.
Dylan Mulvaney
Imagine that.
Kat Cohen
What do you have against Ubers?
Dylan Mulvaney
What do I have against Ubers? It's so freeing to listen to your own music, to have all your with you, to be able to go wherever you want, not waiting on some random stranger to pick you up.
Kat Cohen
You're independent.
Dylan Mulvaney
I love to drive.
Kat Cohen
I love in a relationship, people still independent.
Dylan Mulvaney
Exactly. That's important to me.
Kat Cohen
It is.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's important to me. But anyways, I never learned how to parallel park because there's always big parking lots in Texas. So driving around here is. I have a meltdown every time I have to land somewhere.
Kat Cohen
Does your. The car that you rented have a camera?
Dylan Mulvaney
Back, not front.
Kat Cohen
Okay, so the front is where we really lose.
Dylan Mulvaney
You need both. You need both to really make it work.
Kat Cohen
Talk to me about you just had your. Your song, your album come out.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, thank God you were there because you really turned a look and la. You know, I have mixed feelings, but people are really afraid to not look. Like here.
Kat Cohen
Can I be honest? That was like my cozy, like, not turn a look outfit.
Dylan Mulvaney
She showed up in a floor length dress with feathers and a boa, but.
Kat Cohen
I didn't have fake lashes on and that's the difference.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, really?
Kat Cohen
And it was like cozy. Like that was like a sweater dress.
Dylan Mulvaney
And it was a cozy vibe. It was in a house.
Kat Cohen
Sexy.
Dylan Mulvaney
Thank you. I was slurped into my gown.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God.
Dylan Mulvaney
But people here wear the worst clothes.
Kat Cohen
They.
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay, they wear athleisure every day.
Kat Cohen
I'm usually not naked on the Dylan podcast and I will go there.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm sorry.
Kat Cohen
No, no. But I. I will go there because I think that that LA deserves the chance to correct itself.
Dylan Mulvaney
I think people need to dress up more and people need to enjoy look at us, their clothes and their lives more.
Kat Cohen
We're in the thick of Hollywood right.
Dylan Mulvaney
Now and we're wearing like senator.
Kat Cohen
Senators would be real once we get there.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my, my. I don't know what yours. Mine's real and it costs $3 million.
Kat Cohen
Oh, see, mine is Temu.
Dylan Mulvaney
Totally.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Have you ever bought anything from there?
Kat Cohen
No, but TikTok shop has been a big issue for me in my life.
Dylan Mulvaney
Imagine this. My boyfriend, love my life, buys his clothes from the TikTok shop. Can you imagine what that's like for me? Can you imagine what I'm going through?
Kat Cohen
Okay. Can I. I've bought in clothes off the Tick tock shop.
Dylan Mulvaney
You're part of the community.
Kat Cohen
And what's crazy, though, is like, like I love me an expensive piece of outfit, of course, and that's a crazy term, but I also like a 10 dress on the Tick Tock shop Hilo. I know, but it's fast fashion.
Dylan Mulvaney
I know, but sometimes it's hard.
Kat Cohen
Okay, back to our outfits.
Dylan Mulvaney
Sorry.
Kat Cohen
Uk.
Dylan Mulvaney
Uk.
Kat Cohen
Uk. Hon uk.
Dylan Mulvaney
N O W that. We love the uk.
Kat Cohen
We love it. We're at. Do you know the word Anglophile? Of course I didn't until last week. And I was putting this.
Dylan Mulvaney
You know, I've always been. It all started. When did it start? Well, you know, I lived in London when I was a little girl.
Kat Cohen
Tell me everything.
Dylan Mulvaney
When I was four years old, my family moved to London for my dad's work.
Kat Cohen
When I was.
Dylan Mulvaney
When I was four years old, we moved a little. I mean, my voice is a little hoarse, you might be noticing.
Kat Cohen
Oh, because you've been singing so much because of your music career.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, of course. And thank you for saying that.
Kat Cohen
Famously have. Has.
Dylan Mulvaney
I mean, in the studio. Nine to nine. Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Has signed to a label.
Dylan Mulvaney
Thank you for saying that. Anyways, we lived there when I was younger and it was one of. It's one of those sliding doors moments. I could have ended up a little British gorgeous princess.
Kat Cohen
Yes.
Dylan Mulvaney
Instead, imagine where my family took me. Texas.
Kat Cohen
So they said, we're gonna show you culture, we're gonna show you theater, we're gonna show you accents, we're gonna show you Hugh Grant. And then they said, now you get Tex Mex.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. They took it all from me. But I stand by this. I don't think I would be a comedian if I hadn't grown up somewhere that I wanted to leave so bad.
Kat Cohen
Right, because you wouldn't. You wouldn't be funny if you lived in London.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Wow.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'd be prim and proper.
Kat Cohen
You'd be so, like married to an aristocrat. Probably only doing fashion campaigns non stop. No shows.
Dylan Mulvaney
Mew, mew, meow, meow, Kitty cat.
Kat Cohen
This UK chapter. You were there because of your dad's work?
Dylan Mulvaney
My dad was there for work and then anyways, he got some new job in Texas. We all moved there.
Kat Cohen
But you never got citizenship or anything?
Dylan Mulvaney
No, no. I always wanted to come back. And then when I was in college, I like, went for a summer program and then when I found the friendship.
Kat Cohen
Where'd you go to proper college? Do you like the use of proper? That's my favorite word that I brought over. Uni. Where'd you go to uni I went to Princeton. Wow, that's a good uni.
Dylan Mulvaney
It was so fun. I loved it.
Kat Cohen
Is. How about like, is there anything that I know that, like, we do our best to not bring back a fake accent. Obviously. When we come back, is there anything that you do bring back?
Dylan Mulvaney
Like vocabulary wise, I think saying quite sticks with me. Like, I'm quite tired. I'm quite.
Kat Cohen
But then I thought I heard that quite isn't like it means that, like, if you say it's quite good, it means that it's not good.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, interesting.
Kat Cohen
That's what I. And then I got nervous because I started using that a lot and I'm like, what did I tell people was quite good? That sounded like, yeah, like, yes, I just know.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I try. I try not to. So.
Kat Cohen
But talk me through. So Princeton. You're at Princeton? You go to the uk Just for a little semester at sea.
Dylan Mulvaney
I did like a summer, but not.
Kat Cohen
On San's cruise ship.
Dylan Mulvaney
I did the worst thing anyone can do, which is go to a summer acting program.
Kat Cohen
What? What?
Dylan Mulvaney
Shakespeare. Shakespeare. What's it called? One of the ones. Lambda Lambda.
Kat Cohen
That's good.
Dylan Mulvaney
Didn't learn a single thing. Was drunk every day, fucked everyone I saw and was a disaster. No memory. But it started, my love. Don't laugh at me, you guys. Producers are laughing, laughing, laughing at me. And then I had to go back.
Kat Cohen
So at what point did you graduate? You moved to New York City?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
You're doing standup comedy?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
And then when were you like, well, I gotta get back?
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, eventually, when I had like a show I was proud of, I had some friends from over there, namely my number one girl, Loli Adafope.
Kat Cohen
Oh, you know her, she's so funny.
Dylan Mulvaney
She's a genius. And she really helped me. She was like, let me help you set up a show in London. You should come do the Fringe. And she's like, the whole reason why I was able to start doing stuff over there. So I did a show at this place called the Moth Club in Hackney, which is like the best vibe package.
Kat Cohen
Well, that's like the Brooklyn of.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's what they say.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Great venue. And then I went back and did the Fringe in 2019. Had an amazing time.
Kat Cohen
Well, honey, didn't you get the. The big award?
Dylan Mulvaney
I did. Thank you so much.
Kat Cohen
Was it newcomer?
Dylan Mulvaney
It was the Newcomer award.
Kat Cohen
Tell us, how did that happen?
Dylan Mulvaney
I. I was so young, so, yeah, barely remember. What was the show? How did it happen? Because my show was amazing.
Kat Cohen
Which one was this?
Dylan Mulvaney
It was the Twist. She's gorgeous.
Kat Cohen
Was this one with the boy is never. Well, that was the first video I ever saw. I feel like that was a lot of people's like, oh, my God.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
You know, Entrance to you physically, mentally, spiritually and physical.
Dylan Mulvaney
Entrance.
Kat Cohen
That was the first time I entered you and never left. But I. I couldn't believe what I was watching. Like, it was, like. It was this awakening for me of being, like. I didn't know that, like, musical comedy was, like, allowed because my version of musical comedy was like, the fucking Baker song from into the Woods. Like, I didn't even know.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's an amazing song.
Kat Cohen
It's so good.
Dylan Mulvaney
You know, I really want to play Baker's Wife.
Kat Cohen
We're gonna get to that.
Dylan Mulvaney
Who do you wanna be in into the Woods? I.
Kat Cohen
Okay. I always thought I wanted to do Red Riding Hood, but I actually think now maybe Cinderella.
Dylan Mulvaney
You'd be a great Cinderella. On the steps.
Kat Cohen
On the steps. There's such a pure. And she gets no one is alone. Like, that song's so pretty.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, God, it's just perfect.
Kat Cohen
It's so good.
Dylan Mulvaney
But what's your favorite musical?
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. If you had to pick it up.
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay. The Thunder Purple starring O.
Kat Cohen
But only if Cynthia Riva's leading it. Or if not that Legally Blonde or Next to Normal or Spring Awakening or Wicked.
Dylan Mulvaney
Spring Awakening is up there for me too.
Kat Cohen
What's your favorite favorite?
Dylan Mulvaney
Sunday in the park with George. Wow.
Kat Cohen
You've seen it live?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Jake Gyllenhaal.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. It's one of my favorites. I would watch the Mandy Patinkin version.
Kat Cohen
I've never seen that.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's Bernadette. Bernadette.
Kat Cohen
Everyone listening is like, what did they just say?
Dylan Mulvaney
No, if you know, you know.
Kat Cohen
If you know. If you know, you know.
Dylan Mulvaney
Kind of makes me laugh. Have you met Lana?
Kat Cohen
Never. But we have the same facialist. And she said to, like. I asked the facialist, can you ask, like, what the tea is? And she's like, oh, I really like her.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, she's heaven. I feel so connected to her.
Kat Cohen
No, no, get this. What?
Dylan Mulvaney
What?
Kat Cohen
My facial. She asked for my number, never contacted me. Which feels. Yes. Which feels very Lana coded.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's all you need.
Kat Cohen
But that's all I needed to know. I thought I was maybe getting invited to the Louisiana wedding.
Dylan Mulvaney
That could have been cool.
Kat Cohen
I think it got lost in the mail.
Dylan Mulvaney
Kind of makes me laugh.
Kat Cohen
Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
Running down the path.
Kat Cohen
But back to these videos that. This video that I saw of you. I think you were maybe at Joe's Pub singing The song.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, God, yeah. It's so funny.
Kat Cohen
Like, it's probably in a headband, actually.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yes. I've been posting clips since 1993, and.
Kat Cohen
That one was the first to hit.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's hard. Yeah. It just is what it is.
Kat Cohen
And, but, like, I understand now that there's, like, people called, like, Bo Burnham or, like, there's some other kinds of people.
Dylan Mulvaney
I've always been a Bo Burnham fan.
Kat Cohen
I, I, I didn't know I loved.
Dylan Mulvaney
Him when I was in high school, and.
Kat Cohen
So who was your gateway into, like, musical comedy?
Dylan Mulvaney
It was just a combination of loving musical theater and then falling into the, like, UCB improv scene when I moved to New York. But then I was like, I miss singing. I wonder if there's a way to bring this together.
Kat Cohen
What was the first song you ever wrote?
Dylan Mulvaney
The first song I ever wrote was about having pcos. And it was called.
Kat Cohen
I was gonna say speak on it, and then it was like, sing on it.
Dylan Mulvaney
Sing on it. You know, it never made it into a special.
Kat Cohen
Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, wait, yeah, it never did. It's about. It's called, like, My tiny ovaries are covered in tiny cysts. That's what PCOS is.
Kat Cohen
That's very relatable, though.
Dylan Mulvaney
I know there's some girls out there who are suffering from pcos. I'm here and I'm with you and.
Kat Cohen
There'S a song for you that is unreleased.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, One day it'll come out.
Kat Cohen
Maybe there should be just, like, one live show just for them.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, just for the PCOS girls. Yeah, that could be cool. But that was the first one. The boys wanted to kiss me was like, maybe second or third.
Kat Cohen
Wow. That was, like, truly still one of the funniest. Like, I've, like, laughing out loud at my phone.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's so nice.
Kat Cohen
But. And then how do you write a song? Like, when you go to write a song, like, what do you do?
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, I just think of, like, an idea, and then I have sing a melody in my head. So I think of Boys never want to kiss me. And then the melody just kind of flows. And then I meet up with someone who has actual musical skill and they fill in.
Kat Cohen
Do you play piano at all?
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I play guitar a little bit.
Kat Cohen
Yeah, you do, but you're really good at it.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I'm actually. Thank you for saying that. I'm actually not good at it, but it looks cool, so I wanted to include it in the new special.
Kat Cohen
It's so hot.
Dylan Mulvaney
And I wanted to just. It looked cool in a picture.
Kat Cohen
It's just gonna be so crazy when, like, you get hired to play, like, Dolly Parton in the biopic. And they're like. And they're like, you're in the guitar audition.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my God. A lot would have to happen for that to happen. But you never know.
Kat Cohen
Never say never. So if we were to write a song right now, like. Like, you just kind of, like, throw things out at the wall.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. Look at my little pillow.
Kat Cohen
English girls that are American. See?
Dylan Mulvaney
Little pillow. That could be the chorus. Little pillow.
Kat Cohen
Cue cards.
Dylan Mulvaney
So that's the platinum hit, if anyone's wondering.
Kat Cohen
But then also, poetry's been a big part of your life.
Dylan Mulvaney
Who makes the shoe, Carell?
Kat Cohen
Can you believe it's Amazon love? Had to.
Dylan Mulvaney
I know. I know.
Kat Cohen
Who makes your shoe?
Dylan Mulvaney
Who makes my shoe? I went to Nordstrom at the Grove. Heaven on Earth this week. I've. Yes.
Kat Cohen
Just for black heels.
Dylan Mulvaney
I needed black heels for my dress on Thursday.
Kat Cohen
Oh, okay. Thank God she already had that. I was like, here at the Dylan Hour, we do not try to make our guests.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I would never. No, no. I needed them for the event. And I needed a heel that wasn't too high, because I can't walk in high heels.
Kat Cohen
Oh, wait. Why not? They're my favorite. I actually prefer it.
Dylan Mulvaney
How did you learn?
Kat Cohen
It was one of those, like, I stepped into it, and that's how I knew that this was always supposed to be the way that my life is supposed to go.
Dylan Mulvaney
Just that I feel comfortable knowing I'll never walk in a high heel. I don't. I don't care. I'm already tall.
Kat Cohen
You don't want. How tall are you?
Dylan Mulvaney
How tall are you?
Kat Cohen
I'm five seven.
Dylan Mulvaney
Two, three. Five. Seven and a half Model height.
Kat Cohen
Are we? But it's so crazy sometimes I'm like. I'm, like, just a little too short, you know?
Dylan Mulvaney
I do know, because Taylor Swift's 5.
Kat Cohen
11, and she's my.
Dylan Mulvaney
And I, you know, I'm a huge 50. I adore her, and I see her and I go, that height is fabulous.
Kat Cohen
Did you go to Eris?
Dylan Mulvaney
Of course.
Kat Cohen
It was a really good concert.
Dylan Mulvaney
It was really special to me.
Kat Cohen
I have a surprise for you.
Dylan Mulvaney
What?
Kat Cohen
This is what has been.
Dylan Mulvaney
Did you bring me my treat?
Kat Cohen
Living.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my God.
Kat Cohen
Okay. Everyone's Percy Pigs. But these are specifically the pigtails. And I only have, like, three bags left in America. I just bought, like, 21 of them, and I. I eat an entire bag every night.
Dylan Mulvaney
This is so sacred.
Kat Cohen
You don't understand. These are the hardest things to obtain in the United States of America.
Dylan Mulvaney
Do you know what else is special.
Kat Cohen
About actually outlawed in Trump's America?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, my friend.
Kat Cohen
This is the gateway to transness.
Dylan Mulvaney
Look at this. I'm gonna have one.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Look at this. The. My friend who I. Cheers.
Kat Cohen
Cheers, cheers, cheers. Love. Oh, my God. You is Ms. Love it.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's my other dream. Wrong.
Kat Cohen
Really? I knew it.
Dylan Mulvaney
I've never had this kind.
Kat Cohen
Are you serious? Oh, my God. Do you like sour?
Dylan Mulvaney
I do.
Kat Cohen
Oh, I do.
Dylan Mulvaney
I like the original better.
Kat Cohen
Oh, okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
I wouldn't lie to you on your own podcast.
Kat Cohen
I'm so sorry.
Dylan Mulvaney
It tastes amazing.
Kat Cohen
I wouldn't lie to you on your own podcast.
Dylan Mulvaney
My friend who I stay with in the uk has all these crazy allergies, but this is the one thing she can eat.
Kat Cohen
So it's like, it must be healthy.
Dylan Mulvaney
We commune at the table, we recline the table, and we have.
Kat Cohen
Well, I'm confused, because America lets us put a lot of crazy in our stuff.
Dylan Mulvaney
America will let anything happen.
Kat Cohen
America really lets a lot slide. And so I, I. Whenever I eat these, I think that I'm eating.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, they're literally healthy. Vitamin A, B, C, D. What else do you like?
Kat Cohen
Do you have any snacks over there that you really love?
Dylan Mulvaney
That I love. Well, you can get them here now, but I love malt teasers.
Kat Cohen
What's that?
Dylan Mulvaney
Chocolate malt balls.
Kat Cohen
Oh, I don't. With that girl.
Dylan Mulvaney
I don't like chocolate at all.
Kat Cohen
I don't like chocolate. That is a little. Grow up, Grow up. You don't like chocolate, I think. Oh, my God. There's a literal. There's a bug on your mic.
Dylan Mulvaney
Do you see her? What kind?
Kat Cohen
Look at her.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, she's cute.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. What do we do with her? I know. Could you imagine? Wait, but how funny for the audio team. They're, like, playing it back and all.
Dylan Mulvaney
They hear is like, she's talking about us.
Kat Cohen
No, she's like, please help save my colony.
Dylan Mulvaney
I've been sent here. Wait, what's so crazy? She's also wearing one of these dresses.
Kat Cohen
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Dylan Mulvaney
I want to be in a period piece, in a corset with a bonnet.
Kat Cohen
No way. But, like, serious, dramatic, or, like, funny.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, I want to do both.
Kat Cohen
Wow.
Dylan Mulvaney
I want to do it all.
Kat Cohen
Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
People don't know.
Kat Cohen
Do you want to create your.
Dylan Mulvaney
What we have in store for them.
Kat Cohen
You're gonna create your own show.
Dylan Mulvaney
I want to do it all.
Kat Cohen
Okay. Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm hungry.
Kat Cohen
Let's write something together too, one day.
Dylan Mulvaney
Need to play sisters.
Kat Cohen
Yeah, that's what I've been thinking the entire time.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, you know, we're manifesting this. We're playing Roxy and Velma.
Kat Cohen
Well, okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
You can like the life you're living.
Kat Cohen
Really important moment of the Dylan Island.
Dylan Mulvaney
Tell me.
Kat Cohen
We've had a lot of guests on here, and it kind of starting to feel like a Broadway podcast. Like, call Playbill and this a lot of people, because that's their outlet. Like, I'm like, oh, what should. What. What should you do? And they're like, roxy, Velma. But this is. I will stand by this. The actual first Roxy and Velma connection.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, so you're telling. What you're telling me is that everyone comes on the couch.
Kat Cohen
No.
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay, so I see how it is. No, and I don't care. I'm not mad. It's just nice to know how it is.
Kat Cohen
No, I actually have. Have. I know. I have a different idea for us this time. You're Maureen.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm open to that.
Kat Cohen
And I'm the Will I Lose My Dignity Soloist or. No. No. Better yet, I'm the.
Dylan Mulvaney
I can't believe I've been ousted from no production of Chicago.
Kat Cohen
No. Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's nice to know how it is, Cat. This town will chew you up and spit you out. I gotta get back to New York. Cat, this is absolute vodka in the.
Kat Cohen
Tiniest water bottle we've ever seen. You having multiple beverage. You being the first guest to have multiple beverages on my podcast is so fitting.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm addicted to hydration.
Kat Cohen
You love having, so.
Dylan Mulvaney
But if you live here, doesn't you get so dry as a bone?
Kat Cohen
I never drink water.
Dylan Mulvaney
Why?
Kat Cohen
I don't know. Bubbly water.
Dylan Mulvaney
Sometimes I don't know how you always look so beautiful and are awake because you run your body into the ground.
Kat Cohen
I never.
Dylan Mulvaney
You never sleep. You're constantly on a plane. You don't drink water. You don't even like chocolate, which is one of the most nourishing foods you can ever have.
Kat Cohen
That's good for you. But so is us doing Chicago, and so I need to formally avoid.
Dylan Mulvaney
Whatever happens happens.
Kat Cohen
No, but if you're out there, we are looking to do. Do we want it? What if we did it in London?
Dylan Mulvaney
Could be.
Kat Cohen
What? But.
Dylan Mulvaney
Could be. Who knows? Something's coming. Something's.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. I forgot all those words. One time in a vocal recital that just triggered me hard.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, did it?
Kat Cohen
You ever had, like, a bad moment like that?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. Yeah. Oh, God, it's so funny. Even, like, doing, like, my edinbrush show, some. Some nights I would totally forget things, and I was like, I've done this 3 million times. How am I forgetting?
Kat Cohen
I didn't. I, like, didn't forget anything until, like, the last night. I, like.
Dylan Mulvaney
Because you finally relax.
Kat Cohen
Well, no, because I was like, oh, if I haven't been nervous, like, I should be nervous tonight. And then I forgot.
Dylan Mulvaney
But that's live theater, baby.
Kat Cohen
But maybe we do Chicago on the West End. And then I was nervous because I was like, oh, well, you know, wouldn't they have real Brits play those roles? And I was like, no, but those are Americans, right?
Dylan Mulvaney
They are Americans. I wouldn't mind if they squeezed me into a cabaret.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. Oh, my God.
Dylan Mulvaney
That could be cool.
Kat Cohen
Have you been auditioning for musicals on Broadway?
Dylan Mulvaney
No. And yet I expect to be in them.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Kind of interesting.
Kat Cohen
It's. This is. We're all about manifestation at the Dylan Hour.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, are you?
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
What are you manifesting?
Kat Cohen
Well, that brings us to our next segment.
Dylan Mulvaney
You have a lot of great stuff going on.
Kat Cohen
What a girl wants. What a girl wants. What does Cat Cohen want?
Dylan Mulvaney
Whatever makes. Want to be a movie star.
Kat Cohen
You want to be a movie star.
Dylan Mulvaney
I want to be a movie star. That'd be cool. Who doesn't want that? But, like, it's, like, the most common thing.
Kat Cohen
Do you want to do a reboot, or do you want it to be, like, completely original?
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, on stage. On stage, I'd be open to doing a revival, but I'd love to be in some fabulous, like, film.
Kat Cohen
New movie.
Dylan Mulvaney
New movie.
Kat Cohen
And is it new movie?
Dylan Mulvaney
New movie.
Kat Cohen
But be specific. Like, what kind of girl are you in the movie?
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay, obviously someone who's funny and charming but deeply troubled. And you get to see her, like, lash out. You see her look in the mirror and be like. And, like, punch the mirror.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Like, her mascara is everyone. She's like, what the.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. I. I love the idea of being, like, really put together in something and then just, like, look messy as it goes on.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. It's fun to unravel, so that could be cool. And then I just always want to be doing. Touring the globe with my stand up.
Kat Cohen
And songs I want.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Tell me for us what a girl wants. This week I want us to host the. The Vogue Met gala carpet.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, that'd be fun.
Kat Cohen
In the next two to seven years.
Dylan Mulvaney
Done. We got Sounds like I'm available.
Kat Cohen
Sounds like Emma Chamberlain just broke her leg. No, we actually love her. But.
Dylan Mulvaney
But I also want to be. But then, you know, sometimes every. I have in the past done interviewing people on a carpet type situation and every time I go, this doesn't feel true.
Kat Cohen
It's crazy, right?
Dylan Mulvaney
I want to be on the other side.
Kat Cohen
Mmm. And then you're like, are they looking at me differently?
Dylan Mulvaney
That's not easy to admit, you guys.
Kat Cohen
That's not easy to admit. That was really vulnerable actually.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, it's. It's sort of embarrassing to want things.
Kat Cohen
You can cry here.
Dylan Mulvaney
I could at any second start crying. Don't threaten me with any time. How could you not? I mean, life is so precarious.
Kat Cohen
I know. Parallel parking.
Dylan Mulvaney
Parallel program.
Kat Cohen
Percy pigs.
Dylan Mulvaney
Parallel parking. I'm going to need a prayer to get into this tiny spot.
Kat Cohen
I really, I. My dream is to like, figure out how to bring like comedy into like high fashion spaces.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Spacious. And I, I just really.
Dylan Mulvaney
I think you're already doing it.
Kat Cohen
Yes. But like also like, how do we make it fun? Like, what do you want to like, who's your favorite dream brand? Like, what would you like? You love to. What's your favorite brand to wear or even want to.
Dylan Mulvaney
You know what? Honestly, I feel like it's getting better. But I have not worn a lot of designer brands because they make really small clothes. It's hard for us mid and plus sized girls who can't, who admire the stuff and then they can't even be a part of it. So I think, I think a lot of brands are getting a lot better about it. Like I see a lot of cool designers doing amazing.
Kat Cohen
Who do you love that like, you are. Like, if you go to like, I need to buy an outfit for like. Oh, this is actually a really good question. What is a Cat Cohen outfit look like? Like, what are the, what are the elements of a Cat Cohen?
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, that's fun. It's always a mini dress or mini skirt with high knee, knee high boots.
Kat Cohen
Where do you get the boots?
Dylan Mulvaney
It's quite Sabrina Carpenter vibes actually, but like with a bit of a more 70s, like more mature Jeffrey Campbell.
Kat Cohen
Do you get Jeffrey Campbell.
Dylan Mulvaney
I like Jeffrey Campbell boots. I have a lot of boot brands. I like. I like by far a lot.
Kat Cohen
Do you know them? Don't know them yet.
Dylan Mulvaney
By far. Boots I like mista boots. I like Paris, Texas boots.
Kat Cohen
Wow.
Dylan Mulvaney
I like.
Kat Cohen
You're really a close friend.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm always looking for a new boot brand.
Kat Cohen
Wow.
Dylan Mulvaney
I have lots.
Kat Cohen
And then these mini dresses. Where do you like to buy from?
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, I mean it runs the gamuts. Like there's Zara, there's Asos. Of course. Those are my, you know, for better, for worse. Those are the girls who have stood.
Kat Cohen
By me for as long as time.
Dylan Mulvaney
For all the pound. For all the different weights I've weighed, for all different sizes I've been. You can always get a wrap dress are that will come through. That won't hold you and hold space for you.
Kat Cohen
Do you like to wear bras?
Dylan Mulvaney
I have to wear a bra.
Kat Cohen
Never. Can't.
Dylan Mulvaney
It would not be good for anyone in town if I didn't have a bra. Really. They will go everywhere.
Kat Cohen
I don't know. I think I've. I've started to see like boobies of all sizes in no bras.
Dylan Mulvaney
Totally. I think it's, you know, in like a bustier corset thing. I'm happy you do want to.
Kat Cohen
You want to do a.
Dylan Mulvaney
The other night I was going, no, no bra.
Kat Cohen
There we go.
Dylan Mulvaney
As long as the top is snatched or like tight, I can go in a bra. But I do envy. You know, I love my big juicy naturals shout out to God. But I do sometimes crave. I do sometimes crave to wear like a delicate backless item which can't be done. Although I recently learned how to tape.
Kat Cohen
Oh, okay. Okay. That feels very transmasc.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, you can tape your tits up. Oh, and they hold.
Kat Cohen
Oh, Megan knows. Actually the amount of. Of the amount of tape that Megan is regularly cutting for these girls.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Because I mean it's all. It's a perfect illusion. But I. Because I'll just see Shout out Gaga.
Dylan Mulvaney
We love you everything. She'll be on here soon.
Kat Cohen
Oh, period. How about I like to tape them closer together so that it looks like there's more to work with.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, that's great.
Kat Cohen
I'm getting a boob job though.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh my God. That's exciting.
Kat Cohen
Would you ever get anything like booby related? Maybe you want bigger or smaller?
Dylan Mulvaney
I wouldn't want any. Just higher.
Kat Cohen
Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
Just. I would love. Well, I would love. I'd love them to stay where they are when they're in a Bra.
Kat Cohen
Like, I was gonna say higher, but it's a lift.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. I would love to just, like, not have to wear a bra. But I've always, like, size is fine. But it's more like I've been. I've been bravely, like, gaining and losing the same £20 my entire life. And when you do that, your boobs just go, like, keep that in. Keep that sound effect in. And I am a voiceover artist by for hire. Available for hire.
Kat Cohen
Have you ever done that? Have you done voiceover?
Dylan Mulvaney
That is how I quit my day job. Stop by doing commercials.
Kat Cohen
Is that true?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
You're like, no, I actually just lied to you.
Dylan Mulvaney
I would never lie to you while you're on podcast. I did Olay. No Olay. What was the tagline I did? Oh, God, it was a long, long time. It was like 2015, 2016.
Kat Cohen
Still paying the bills with it, though.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, no, I have some commercials that are still on. You know what I did, which I am so obsessed with?
Kat Cohen
What?
Dylan Mulvaney
Remember that one where the girls are shaving their pubes, but it's topiaries. Oh, did you ever see that?
Kat Cohen
Like bushes.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, they're shaving their fake bushes. Remember that commercial?
Kat Cohen
No. What was that? What was it for?
Dylan Mulvaney
Is. Was one of those.
Kat Cohen
Somebody look up.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, I was like, love your skin.
Kat Cohen
Love your skin.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm available to do more. I feel like the industry is changing.
Kat Cohen
Well, it's also great because if. If they.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's harder to do those jobs. Do you know what I'm talking about? Why are you guys laughing at me?
Kat Cohen
But, like, why is it. But like, why is it changing? Because they don't want to hire us because we're polarizing women.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, I think. God, there used to be. There used to be way more great commercial opportunities. I think now they hire a lot of celebs.
Kat Cohen
Oh.
Dylan Mulvaney
Or they go non union with it.
Kat Cohen
But who are you? Like, you are a celeb and.
Dylan Mulvaney
Thank you. And who are you? And who are you? No, I agree. I'm. You have to act like a celeb to be true.
Kat Cohen
That's what's crazy, though, about the whole like it girl of it all. Because, like, I think if there was anyone that I could trade places with, like, comedically, stylistically, body wise, like, I love of everything about you.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's the craziest thing I've ever heard in my life.
Kat Cohen
Are you serious?
Dylan Mulvaney
But isn't that the human experience?
Kat Cohen
I'm so jealous.
Dylan Mulvaney
You're dying. Like, you're dying to crawl out of your own skin. And then someone says that to you. But isn't that life? If I was a thin blonde, it would be over for you guys. It would be over for you hoes.
Kat Cohen
I want to wear a bra. I want to need to wear a bra. And I want to be signed to a label.
Dylan Mulvaney
Tell me about this titty surgery.
Kat Cohen
I think I'm only going to go 130ccs, if that means anything to you. Very small.
Dylan Mulvaney
What size is that?
Kat Cohen
It's going to be a full B.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's perfect. Yeah, because you have a small frame. You don't want to go too big.
Kat Cohen
This is against my doctor's request because he said that.
Dylan Mulvaney
Do you love your doctor?
Kat Cohen
Oh, well, yeah. Plastic surgeon. Dr. Lee, you're everything to me.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm curious about this.
Kat Cohen
Oh, I did that.
Dylan Mulvaney
What's that called?
Kat Cohen
A little, like. I mean, I got my jaw shaved down and they probably did like a little lifty. Lifty.
Dylan Mulvaney
They just lift the skin like it.
Kat Cohen
You want that?
Dylan Mulvaney
I would be open to that in the future.
Kat Cohen
I don't think you need it yet.
Dylan Mulvaney
Not yet. Not from this angle.
Kat Cohen
Not.
Dylan Mulvaney
Wait till I turn around. No, I'm okay right now. I look perfect. And of course, I love my body.
Kat Cohen
Thank you. I want to be in yours.
Dylan Mulvaney
Come on in. Water's warm. You wouldn't like what's going on in here.
Kat Cohen
I was on Zoloft when I was young and I. It just made me so sad. It made me way sadder.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, I've heard that can happen.
Kat Cohen
People like us don't need to actually do cocaine because, well, you know, I'm not allowed. Why?
Dylan Mulvaney
Because of my heart surgery.
Kat Cohen
You had a heart surgery?
Dylan Mulvaney
I had a heart.
Kat Cohen
I'm talking about my boobs over here. And your heart's broken.
Dylan Mulvaney
I. What's fixed now? I had the Hailey Bieber special. No, you know, I have what she had.
Kat Cohen
Erewhon.
Dylan Mulvaney
I had the Erwan smoothie. I'm dying for her to reach out to me because she had what's called a pfo. And I had that, too.
Kat Cohen
Pfo?
Dylan Mulvaney
Patent Foreman. Avul.
Kat Cohen
How long ago?
Dylan Mulvaney
Last summer.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God.
Dylan Mulvaney
That's why it was fake, because I couldn't go to last summer.
Kat Cohen
You had pfo? I had drama.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, that's really beautiful.
Kat Cohen
Thank you. But. Okay. So this was recent.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yes. I didn't know. I was born with this heart defect and I was supposed to go to Edinburgh packing my suitcase. Had a mini stroke. Went to the hospital, they said, you might have this thing. I go, you're crazy. And they were right. That's why I went this year instead with you. Meant to be.
Kat Cohen
That's why you got. That's why God was like, we're gonna give her a stroke so that she can go to Edinburgh with Dylan and hit the baby reindeer bar.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, literally. Cause I'm still kind of like, dear God, reveal to me why that happened. But God will, in time, shout out.
Kat Cohen
But what did you. Did it put you out for a while?
Dylan Mulvaney
It actually wasn't too bad. I was out for, like, a month. They do the surgery?
Kat Cohen
Did they have to crack you open?
Dylan Mulvaney
No, they do it through your PC.
Kat Cohen
No way.
Dylan Mulvaney
No, not actually. They do it through a vein in your groin, but I kept saying, they're going through a pain.
Kat Cohen
I was like, well, what do we. I was like, that's so.
Dylan Mulvaney
I was like, the doctor is dying. Derail me. He's insisting on. I was like, oh, do you say that to all your patients, sir? Nobody went through the vein in my groin. Fixed it up. And I was. You know, I was hiking, like, two weeks later. Two and a half weeks later. Medicine is amazing. I'm obsessed with doctors. Mount Sinai. Thank you so much, Haley. Call me. Hi there. It's Julia Louis Dreyfus.
Kat Cohen
This fall, my podcast, Wiser Than Me is back for season three with even more wisdom straight from some legendary old ladies.
Dylan Mulvaney
These chickadees have a lot to teach us.
Kat Cohen
Every word is a lesson in living unapologetically and focusing on the stuff that really matters. From Lemonada Media Wiser Than Me. See season three out now. Find it wherever you get your podcast.
Dylan Mulvaney
Subscribe to Lemonada Premium in the Apple.
Kat Cohen
Podcasts app and listen to every episode of season three A.D. free.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's the Dealing hour.
Kat Cohen
It's now time for Overshare Don't Care here on the Dylan Hour with Kat Cohen.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my God.
Kat Cohen
Are you ready? So there's gonna be time on the clock, and you're gonna essentially have to answer these as quickly as you can.
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay, cool.
Kat Cohen
You ready?
Dylan Mulvaney
I love it. I love games.
Kat Cohen
Okay, ready?
Dylan Mulvaney
As long as I win.
Kat Cohen
Dream venue to play.
Dylan Mulvaney
Sorry, I got lost in your eyes.
Kat Cohen
Really?
Dylan Mulvaney
Dream venue to play. Carnegie. Carnegie Hall.
Kat Cohen
Carnegie. Okay. Hall.
Dylan Mulvaney
Pass. Post Malone.
Kat Cohen
What moment in your life? What moment in your life did you feel the most it girl?
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, that's such a fun question. The most it girl.
Kat Cohen
What moment in your life did you feel the most it girl?
Dylan Mulvaney
The party on Thursday.
Kat Cohen
Oh, what Sex and the City character are you.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm a. Oh, God.
Kat Cohen
We can break it down later.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's not Charlotte. I would Say it's either Miranda Carey or Samantha. What girl's character are you? Hannah.
Kat Cohen
Dream creative to work with.
Dylan Mulvaney
Sorry, you're stressing me the fuck out. I'm kidding. I love you. Dream creative to work with. Lena Dunham.
Kat Cohen
Oh. Favorite post show meal?
Dylan Mulvaney
Vodka martini, dry with olives, fries with ketchup and mayo and a patty melt from the Waverly Diner on Sixth Avenue.
Kat Cohen
Favorite rom com.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, my God.
Kat Cohen
Favorite rom com.
Dylan Mulvaney
Bridget Jones Diary.
Kat Cohen
Stage name. You would have if you. If your name wasn't Cat Cohen.
Dylan Mulvaney
Cookie Cohen.
Kat Cohen
Where are we gonna retire?
Dylan Mulvaney
The Cotswolds?
Kat Cohen
Oh, that's so perfect.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Good job. Oh, there's one, selfishly, that I do want to. Who's your favorite pop diva?
Dylan Mulvaney
My favorite pop Gaga.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. I mean, the thing is, it all leads back to her.
Kat Cohen
It's so common, don't you think? I think it's the most. It's the strongest answer.
Dylan Mulvaney
She's the truest artist of our time.
Kat Cohen
And you're such an ally, and she's such an ally. So in a way, you both are the same person.
Dylan Mulvaney
I think we're both like. Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Your music's actually very similar.
Dylan Mulvaney
Totally.
Kat Cohen
But. Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
Everyone's saying that.
Kat Cohen
What I think was tricky about that Sex of the City character answer is you gave three names.
Dylan Mulvaney
I gave the worst answer you give, which is non answer. You know.
Kat Cohen
Should I read you?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. What do you think?
Kat Cohen
I think that you are. You lead as a Samantha because I think of how open you are.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
I think you actually love more like a Carrie. And I think that you have the aesthetic of a Charlotte.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, that's cute.
Kat Cohen
Yeah, I think that, like. Because a lot of what, like, you.
Dylan Mulvaney
Do like a. I love, like a hyper femme. Like.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
Frilly little gown.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
But, yeah, I was gonna, you know, I think as I. But as I've gotten older, I was like, Miranda's right about everything. That's the thing is as I get older, I go, she's right. Her friends are being annoying as fuck.
Kat Cohen
I know. And then it was so funny.
Dylan Mulvaney
Are you Carrie?
Kat Cohen
Really Charlotte? Okay. I think I actually am Charlotte.
Dylan Mulvaney
Because sometimes your Samantha comes out.
Kat Cohen
Sometimes. But then I try to have casual sex and then it doesn't.
Dylan Mulvaney
I cry after knee deep in the passenger seat and they're eating you out and I'm sobbing and you're going, it's not casual now.
Kat Cohen
No, it's not. And then guess what? They got what they wanted. And that's where I'm sharing.
Dylan Mulvaney
What do you mean?
Kat Cohen
Like, they just want to have sex with me, I wanted to like watch Shrek.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, you want love.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm the same way. If I have sex with someone, I'm like, I need them. Even if I don't want to love them, I need them to love me.
Kat Cohen
Did you know it was Brian from the start?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yes and no. Like I was immediately drawn to him sexually in a really intense way. But I almost. I sucked his dick in a closet at a party. But that was the first time. Yeah, that was the first time we met. But I kept being like, this is just casual. Whatever, whatever. And then all of a sudden I was like, why does he feel like so familiar to me? Like so comfortable. I feel like he would fit into my family. Like we like all the same things and that just was like always present period. Yeah, period. I would encourage you guys to go out there and suck someone's dick at a house party in a closet.
Kat Cohen
And you're Hannah and girls. She would do that.
Dylan Mulvaney
She would do that.
Kat Cohen
And Lena Dunham should put you in her next show.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm open to it.
Kat Cohen
I think I'm a show. What do you think?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Would you say yeah, okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
No. I would love to be in anything Lena does. I think she's a total genius.
Kat Cohen
Ring, ring. I think we have a last call confession on the show today.
Dylan Mulvaney
Thanks. Ring, ring.
Kat Cohen
We are going to be giving a little bit of advice out to one of our listeners.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, cute.
Kat Cohen
We have a little call. Could we play said call? Said call. Hello, honey. Hi, Dylan, I love you so much. You're a queen.
Dylan Mulvaney
I just wanted to ask, do you.
Kat Cohen
Have any the relationship wise? Because in the dating world it seems that the online dating apps really never seem to work and.
Dylan Mulvaney
They just lead.
Kat Cohen
To failed talking stages or most people just want to have sex. So like, I don't know, do you have any advice on like meeting people organically and like how to go about that? Thank you. I love you so much. I love you more. And that's so crazy the timing of.
Dylan Mulvaney
We were just saying what we were.
Kat Cohen
Saying of like, yeah, this sounds like maybe you're someone who doesn't want to just. Just have sex and like, and maybe isn't hitting it on the apps or something. But like, I'm really curious what Kat has to say about this.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, it's the kind of thing, right? I think you can find long lasting love on the apps. Like I wouldn't write them off completely but I think people show you who they are and what they want right up top and you have to just listen to them.
Kat Cohen
What do you think about playing games? Like, do you think that, like, it's good to play hard to get or, like, when you're, you know, in person, like, should you not, like, come on too strong?
Dylan Mulvaney
Interesting. I don't think it's good to play hard to get. I do think. I do think if someone wants to see you, they'll ask to see you. So you don't need to be the one always. I used to always be the one. Like, let's hang out, let's hang out, let's hang out. And instead it's like, okay, if they're not asking me to hang out, then maybe, like, it's not a match.
Kat Cohen
Yeah.
Dylan Mulvaney
So. But no. No games. Just, like, letting things happen.
Kat Cohen
And do you think that, like, for someone who maybe, like, doesn't want to have sex right away or, like, doesn't want to lead with that, that's totally fine.
Dylan Mulvaney
You're allowed to go on a date and say you don't want to do anything. Isn't that craziest thing, like, fuck that.
Kat Cohen
I know. I just feel like if somebody buys me a drink, I'm like, well, here we go. Not at all, ponytail.
Dylan Mulvaney
Not at all. You don't even have to hug them or kiss them, really.
Kat Cohen
Of course, everyone, you heard it here first on the Dylan Hour.
Dylan Mulvaney
Take the drink and go.
Kat Cohen
Take the drink and go.
Dylan Mulvaney
Hey, Samantha's here. Take the drink and go.
Kat Cohen
Take the drink and go.
Dylan Mulvaney
Truly.
Kat Cohen
She might stay, though.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah, but. Yeah, exactly. Wow. But and also, just try and meet up as soon as possible, I think, is the advice.
Kat Cohen
Ooh. Not trying to get too lost in.
Dylan Mulvaney
No chatting. Who cares?
Kat Cohen
How do you let someone know that, like, maybe is, like, a friend type? Like, say this person has somebody that they're thinking of, but, like, doesn't know where they sit. As far as, like, friend versus, like, lover. Potential lover.
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay.
Kat Cohen
How do you make that clear?
Dylan Mulvaney
Get together and be like, this is crazy, but I have. I sort of have a crush on you.
Kat Cohen
Have you said that before?
Dylan Mulvaney
What do you think about that? I've never done friends to lovers. I'm just lover. Lovers.
Kat Cohen
Lover. That's how, like.
Dylan Mulvaney
Well, because you are a straight man, which is normally what I'm drawn to. I don't need them as a friend, so it's easier.
Kat Cohen
That's what I'm saying. Yeah, but it's tricky when you do have, like, somebody that you're friends with and you're like, oh, this could be.
Dylan Mulvaney
Exactly. But I think, say I have a crush on you. Isn't that Weird. And see what they say.
Kat Cohen
That's.
Dylan Mulvaney
And if they really balls, if they seem, like, a little bit tick, then whatever. She's like, whatever. If they. And you'll know if they're, like, feeling it back. So I'll be like, wait, Same.
Kat Cohen
Wow. Do you ever miss flirting?
Dylan Mulvaney
Constantly. But it's really fun. Sometimes I do it.
Kat Cohen
Yeah. Just for fun.
Dylan Mulvaney
Nothing wrong with a little flirt. I love to flirt.
Kat Cohen
I love to flirt with you.
Dylan Mulvaney
I love male attention. It's so bad.
Kat Cohen
I just love attention in general.
Dylan Mulvaney
I do love attention, John, but something hit. It's different.
Kat Cohen
You're so right.
Dylan Mulvaney
When. When there's a guy who's kind of an. And, like, ignores other people and then he puts his attention on you, it feels so. It's. I'm sick. I'm sick, doctor.
Kat Cohen
It's an addiction.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. I mean, we're performers. Of course. We like attention.
Kat Cohen
We love it.
Dylan Mulvaney
And flirting's fun, and flirting is healthy and good for the soul, and you should keep doing it forever.
Kat Cohen
Wait, where do. Where are we retiring? We're retiring the Cotswolds.
Dylan Mulvaney
I want to be, like, in the.
Kat Cohen
Tell people what the Cotswolds are, you.
Dylan Mulvaney
Know, like the countryside of England. Like, I want to be like you.
Kat Cohen
Ever been.
Dylan Mulvaney
Obviously, I'm obsessed with it.
Kat Cohen
It's. Could you imagine if we went together?
Dylan Mulvaney
I need to go immediately.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. What if we did, like, a video for them?
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm open to, like, hell. Call. Call, Call in, call in, call in. Right.
Kat Cohen
But so do you picture.
Dylan Mulvaney
But we're not retiring ever.
Kat Cohen
Ever. What? Who. If you were to, like, look at, like, the legends of yesteryear, who would you love to emulate, like, when you're 85. Oh, that's so great.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, wow.
Kat Cohen
That's music. That's like a pop star. Yeah, you're right. She did it all.
Dylan Mulvaney
She does it all.
Kat Cohen
I think for me, it's Betty White.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, great.
Kat Cohen
Or Diane Keaton.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, heaven.
Kat Cohen
Love them. I love her little gardening outfits. And I love.
Dylan Mulvaney
I need a garden. Do you have a garden?
Kat Cohen
No. Oh, I do, but I don't touch her very often.
Dylan Mulvaney
Do you touch her?
Kat Cohen
She doesn't either. Somebody does.
Dylan Mulvaney
Someone does. That's great. I really would love a garden.
Kat Cohen
Yeah. You want to come over one day?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
You know, I love to cook. I'll cook for you.
Kat Cohen
Really?
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. I'll make you a sauce.
Kat Cohen
Like, what kind?
Dylan Mulvaney
I'll make you, like, a bolognese.
Kat Cohen
I don't like healthy food.
Dylan Mulvaney
It's not healthy.
Kat Cohen
I don't eat Meat.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, that's tough for me.
Kat Cohen
Really?
Dylan Mulvaney
You never eat meat?
Kat Cohen
You never. You're not a vegetarian. You're not vegan. You look like one.
Dylan Mulvaney
Honey. Thank you. Thank you. I'm from Texas.
Kat Cohen
Oh. Yeah. They.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, I like me a rack of ribs.
Kat Cohen
I miss them.
Dylan Mulvaney
What's your favorite food besides candy?
Kat Cohen
Pizza.
Dylan Mulvaney
Great.
Kat Cohen
Domino's.
Dylan Mulvaney
What's your Domino's? What's your spot here?
Kat Cohen
No Domino's.
Dylan Mulvaney
What's your order? Cheese.
Kat Cohen
It's a. It's a thick crust with cheese and a little bit of Parmesan and ranch and Buffalo.
Dylan Mulvaney
Love your pizza.
Kat Cohen
New York.
Dylan Mulvaney
I like pepperoni and mushroom. My favorite pizza place. Ordering. I think the best delivery this is. It's Papa John's.
Kat Cohen
Oh, it's good. Okay.
Dylan Mulvaney
I'm not gonna give you the pepperoncini.
Kat Cohen
Not gonna yuck your yum.
Dylan Mulvaney
Oh, about.
Kat Cohen
Yeah. Papa John's.
Dylan Mulvaney
Is it over?
Kat Cohen
No. No. Oh, my God. They didn't get canceled. Papa John's isn't canceled.
Dylan Mulvaney
Okay, but the guy. Wasn't he bad?
Kat Cohen
Oh, is he.
Dylan Mulvaney
I think there's fat.
Kat Cohen
Oh, my God. We can't keep up.
Dylan Mulvaney
But the. When they give you the garlic dipping sauce and the pepperoncini, it's really special. Include that whether or not you'll be able.
Kat Cohen
The bower Zupi. There's a lot of questionable material in this episode.
Dylan Mulvaney
I think it's all perfect and.
Kat Cohen
But it all comes back to England in one way or another because that's.
Dylan Mulvaney
Where we fell in love.
Kat Cohen
And I will continue loving you forever. I support you forever. I will like every Instagram. What's your handle?
Dylan Mulvaney
Cat Cohen.
Kat Cohen
Wow, that underscores alive and well, honey.
Dylan Mulvaney
Who's got the one without a mother of twins? She said it would be hard for her family if she didn't have it.
Kat Cohen
Yeah, she called in too.
Dylan Mulvaney
We didn't take her questions for her family. No. And I love. Of course I love her. And I would take a bullet for her. But wouldn't. Wouldn't mind the.
Kat Cohen
I wonder maybe if we can make like a barter with her. It's like if we make it to the Met Gala. Carpet.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah.
Kat Cohen
She gives up the handle.
Dylan Mulvaney
Something to look forward to.
Kat Cohen
Something to look forward to. Percy. Pig Shout Out.
Dylan Mulvaney
Fizzy Pigtails.
Kat Cohen
Marks.
Dylan Mulvaney
Are you mad they're having another one?
Kat Cohen
I'm really trying to get a brand deal with them. Or at least just send me some or I'll pay you.
Dylan Mulvaney
How are they not saying you some already?
Kat Cohen
It's the craziest thing, girl. I don't wanna talk about it.
Dylan Mulvaney
They're playing hard to get.
Kat Cohen
It's so hard to get. Okay, everyone, this has been my dear friend, Kat Cohen.
Dylan Mulvaney
Thank you for having me.
Kat Cohen
Crazy episode.
Dylan Mulvaney
Could talk to you forever, darling.
Kat Cohen
It was so fun. Wait, give us a little bit of your accent.
Dylan Mulvaney
So lovely speaking with you.
Kat Cohen
Oh. Oh, you really are giving the paragraph.
Dylan Mulvaney
It was fine talking.
Kat Cohen
And I'm the one that lives on the ranch.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yeah. You know, I got, you know, in high school, I got to be in a production of Dracula where I had an accent. Isn't that fun?
Kat Cohen
Texas.
Dylan Mulvaney
Yes. I need the footage. I can't imagine how it sounded.
Kat Cohen
I would love to watch that.
Dylan Mulvaney
I can't imagine.
Kat Cohen
Okay, whoever's got it, send it to us.
Dylan Mulvaney
Love you guys, everyone.
Kat Cohen
Love ya.
Dylan Mulvaney
Rock and roll.
Kat Cohen
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Kat Cohen
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Podcast Summary: The Dylan Hour with Dylan Mulvaney – Episode "UK Huns! with Cat Cohen"
Episode Information:
In this lively episode of The Dylan Hour, host Dylan Mulvaney welcomes comedian and UK enthusiast Cat Cohen for a UK-themed extravaganza. The duo delves into their shared passion for British culture, their comedic journeys, fashion preferences, and offers heartfelt relationship advice. The episode is peppered with humor, personal anecdotes, and engaging banter, making it a delightful listen for fans and newcomers alike.
The episode kicks off with Dylan and Cat playfully highlighting their coincidental choice of UK-themed outfits, setting a humorous and light-hearted tone.
Their matching outfits become a running joke, emphasizing their mutual enthusiasm for all things British.
Dylan and Cat explore their deep ties to the UK, sharing personal stories that highlight their affection for British traditions and humor.
Dylan reminisces about her childhood in London, painting a vivid picture of how those early experiences shaped her comedic style.
Her stint at a summer acting program in the UK becomes a humorous tale of youthful misadventures and the foundation of her comedic career.
The conversation shifts to the intersection of musical theater and comedy, with Dylan sharing insights into her creative process and aspirations.
They discuss the influence of musical theater on Dylan's comedy, highlighting her unique blend of song and humor.
A significant segment of the episode revolves around fashion, where Dylan and Cat exchange views on style preferences, favorite brands, and body positivity.
They advocate for inclusive fashion, praising brands like Zara and Asos for their adaptability to different body types.
Their candid discussion on bras transitions into broader topics of body image and self-expression through fashion.
Dylan and Cat share heartfelt and humorous personal stories, including Dylan's recent health challenges and Cat's experiences with voiceover work.
These anecdotes add depth to their conversation, showcasing their resilience and openness.
In this segment, both hosts discuss the highs and lows of their recent weeks, offering a blend of positivity and relatable struggles.
Their transparent sharing fosters a genuine connection with listeners, highlighting the balance of joy and challenges in their lives.
Towards the latter part of the episode, Dylan and Cat tackle listener questions about modern dating challenges, particularly focusing on the pitfalls of online dating and the importance of authentic connections.
They emphasize the value of honesty and straightforwardness in building meaningful relationships, discouraging playing games and advocating for clear communication.
Their pragmatic approach offers listeners practical advice on navigating the complexities of modern romance.
In the final segment, Overshare Don't Care, Dylan and Cat engage in a rapid-fire question and answer round, revealing fun and quirky aspects of their personalities.
This playful interaction provides a light-hearted conclusion to the episode, leaving listeners with smiles and a sense of camaraderie.
"UK Huns! with Cat Cohen" is a testament to the dynamic chemistry between Dylan Mulvaney and Cat Cohen. Their spirited discussions, combined with personal storytelling and practical advice, create a compelling and entertaining episode. Whether bonding over their love for the UK, dissecting the intricacies of fashion and comedy, or offering heartfelt relationship tips, Dylan and Cat deliver a memorable podcast experience that resonates with a diverse audience.
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