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The Epstein Chronicles
Mega Edition: The Dumpster Fire Known As The BOP (6/22/26)
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The failure to keep Jeffrey Epstein alive was not just a jailhouse screwup; it was a neon-lit indictment of the Bureau of Prisons as an institution. Epstein was one of the most high-profile federal detainees in the country, a man whose survival...
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Capucci, and this is daily drop number 412. Hey, what's up, everybody? Happy Saturday night. Hope you're all having a fantastic weekend so far. As for me, things have gone swimmingly. Nice and calm, easy weekend. Spent the whole day today in the kitchen whipping up about seven pounds of chicken parmesan to bring over to my parents. My girlfriend and I went over there, ate some food, hung out, watched both the islanders and the Rangers lose, unfortunately, which is becoming quite a habit for the Rangers so far this year. But I won't get into all of that. We ate a bunch of chicken parmesan. We had some, obviously, some macaroni, some meatballs, some sausage. And Carrie really likes this place called Crumble, so it's like this cookie joint. So she ordered some of these cookies. And I always tell her when she gets these things that I'm not going to eat any of them. They're too sweet for me. And then before you know it, I'm shoving about five of them down my bearded face. So I guess I should just stay away from those things because they obviously have some sort of heroin or crack cocaine or something like that in them because once I start eating them, I cannot stop. So we had those. My uncle cruised through, we had a tres leche cake that he brought over, and we just hung out all day and had a good time. And sometimes it's nice just to keep it real mellow, real chill, hang out with the family and, you know, just eat until you can't eat anymore. And for me, I enjoy cooking. So while I was cooking, I started listening to, well, not started, but continued listening to an audiobook that I downloaded a couple of days ago. And it's the book called the Ritual. Now, I'm sure some of you have seen this movie on Netflix. They turn the book into a movie, and the movie's pretty good, right? If you saw the movie, then, you know, you're like, oh, all right, yeah, that was a pretty good flick. But the book is ten times better. I mean, it is way better. The tension, the way they build it all up. The infighting between the. The dudes on the camping trip, then you splatter in a little bit of, you know, mythology, Scandinavian mythology, and all sorts of other cool little things that the author, Adam Neville, did. And you have yourself quite a good book. And for me, when I'm out on those solo hiking adventures, I like to listen to books like that. You know, it sets the Ambience, right? A little bit of trepidation as you're on your own journey. So I was looking for something to fit the bill and like I said, I had read the, I mean, watched the movie. So when I was, you know, messing around looking for a, a book that was set in the outdoors that had like a horror tilt, I was directed to this book by several different people who suggested it on different forums. So usually I will avoid grabbing a book that I've seen the movie to first because I like to be surprised, right? I like some twists, some turns and all of that stuff. But I had heard from these same forums that the book was nothing like the movie and there was some different twists and turns, blah, blah, blah. Well, before I ran for too long, let's just say that they were spot on. And this is a fantastic book. I talked about the Terror a week ago, week and a half ago, and I finished that. And that book is epic too. I mean, Dan Simmons hit a home run with that book. But with the Ritual, it's kind of a different kind of horror book, right? More like a cult. There's a lot of occult in it and it's just creepy as f. So if you're looking for a book to read or if you do audiobooks especially, I highly suggest picking up the Ritual. So I, again, I listen to a lot of audiobooks and I read a ton of books as well. And it's, it's not very often where I'm listening to a book and I feel it in my soul, like I did with the Ritual. Like, maybe it's because I hike a lot and I could, I could totally feel what they were going through. Like I had like a visceral reaction almost because I could totally see what happened to them happening. But it was very disconcerting. The book, I won't say terrifying because I don't know if I've, since I've been an adult anyway, read or watched anything that's absolutely terrified me besides the news. But as far as like disconcerting and like uncomfortable and like, okay, what the hell? This definitely fit the bill and hit all of the levers. So if you're looking for quite a ride, I would definitely suggest the Ritual by Adam Neville. It's like an 11 hour listen, so I would guess probably few hundred pages if you're gonna read it. But either way, if you do check it out and, and listen to it or read it, let me know what you think. Send me some email or send me a message on Twitter or something. And let me know what you think about it. And if you're going to pick it up, let me know as well. Let me know that you plan on reading it so that we could chat about it a little bit. Because I'd like to see what other people's reactions are as far as the story itself. Very creative, in my opinion. So definitely, if you're going to check it out, let me know and we'll, we'll BS a little bit about that. All right, so onto our article. You know, the Department of Justice and the Bureau of Prisons is an absolute dumpster fire. Couldn't be any more pathetic what goes on within these organizations. Now we know the Justice Department, the laws are absolutely backwards. Most of the time, they're rigged. The, the courts are all screwed up. So we, we know that. And unfortunately, if you're paying attention, you also know that the Bureau of Prisons is screwed up as well. I'm not even going to get into for profit prisons or anything like that. That's in a different vein. But in general, the Bureau of Prisons is an absolute shit show. It should have been fixed a long time ago. When people go to prison, they should go there with the hope of some sort of rehabilitation to rehabilitate themselves. But that's not how it works, right? These people go to these prisons and you go in there for one crime and you come out of there and you're an arch criminal. And the people who run these prisons are clowns for the most part. I hate to say it, but they're clowns. I'd say that a lot of the, the guards themselves are good people, right? And I'd say that a lot of the administrators are probably good people and they want to do the, the right thing. But the bosses like in every single one of these other bureaucra are all seemingly up to no good. And the article we're going to talk about tonight, we're going to see that once again the warden who took over at the MCC after the Epstein situation to clean things up, well, she's out now after about a year, after more allegations have come down, more people have brought a pointing finger towards the jail about the treatment of prisoners, contraband getting in there, all kinds of wild shit. And you mean to tell me that this is the best we can do with all of the money that gets pumped into the Bureau of Prisons? I mean, I want to say that they have like one of the largest budgets outside of the, the Defense Department, and this is the kind of quality and shit that we get. We need A complete overhaul. We need a complete audit. A complete overhaul. And we need to find a system that works. Because I don't know about you folks, but I'm tired of wasting money just throwing it into a black hole and having people go to these jails, go to these prisons, never had, never rehabilitate themselves, come out, and then repeat the cycle over and over again while some dick bag hedge fund got hedge fund guy who's involved in these for profit prisons continues to get rich. I'm tired of all of that jazz. So this needs to be overhauled. There needs to be a new system in place, some sort of accountability for these people in charge, not just stepping down. I mean, at the very least, if you're in charge of one of these shitholes that's being run like the prison in that movie Midnight Express over in Turkey when the dude get got caught for smuggling a hash or whatever, if you're running a facility like that in the United States of America, then you need to be held accountable for that. And that doesn't mean just retire. Maybe you lose your pension. And if there are criminal accounts that you can be held accountable for, then that as well. But at the very least, they have to be made to know that if they don't run a tight ship, if they don't have all of their ducks in a row and there are people doing the right thing, then they're going to feel the pain in the purse at the very least. Because unfortunately, it seems like a lot of these people who get these jobs are just in it to cruise through, get that pension and move on. Because how could it be possible that all of these people that come through to these places, all of these wardens in all of these prisons can. Are they all just completely moronic or is there a lot of greed that's going along with it as well? Again, I don't know. I don't have any, you know, direct information pointing to that. But you know how these bureaucrats work. There's a lot of eating at the trough, a lot of wetting of the beak. And it might not be your usual, oh, showing up with an envelope to bribe somebody or whatever, but there's other ways, right? You get this contract, you get that contract. I put in a word for you here, I put in a word for you there. I'm the warden, I'm the one who decides what food company comes in here. You get my drift? So we got to make sure that the people that in those in those positions are accountable. And, and if they get out of line. They have to be held accountable in a very transparent way so that the taxpayer can see how their tax dollars are being spent and they're not just being wasted while people like Jeffrey Epstein are being killed while in the custody of the United States government. Our article tonight is from the AP and the headline, Warden out after new allegations at embattled federal Jail. This article was authored by Michael R. Sisak, Jim Mustian, and Michael Balsamo. The warden brought in to clean up the federal jail where Jeffrey Epstein killed himself allegedly has abruptly stepped down after a year long tenure marred by the rampant spread of the coronavirus and inmates complaints about squalid conditions, a smuggled gun, and an inmate's death. So I'm willing to give them a pass on the coronavirus situation because how are you supposed to control that, right? What are you supposed to do? Put everybody in a fishbowl with an oxygen tube running into it and they can never take it off. So I can't, I can't really get too upset about the whole Covid situation there. Now, the squalid conditions, on the other hand, I, I guess that would depend what are considered squalid conditions. I, you guys all know how I feel about this. I feel like the conditions in the jail should be livable conditions, right? It's bad enough that, you know, we have to put people in jail. You know, unfortunately, a lot of people have left society no choice. But at the same time, I think that a facility where the, the, everything's bad, you know, the conditions are horrible, the, the, the guards are abusive, I don't think that does anyone any good, Right? So I think it should be a professional environment with a set of rules, a set of guidelines that everybody has to follow, all of the guards. You know, one federal prison shouldn't have its own way of doing things compared to another. Everything should have a unified code and everyone should be held to a certain standard as far as guards, and especially for these bureaucrats that get these jobs. And then when shit goes south like this, they just step down. So there needs to be some sort of across the board regulation where each one of these prisons has to get on and get going with the same exact guidelines as the next one. Now, I'm talking about the federal prisons, State prisons are a little bit different, right? Each one's gonna have its own needs and blah, blah, blah. But with the federal prisons, they can make it uniformed and make it very transparent so the people see exactly what's going on and then we can understand where the money's being spent, how it's being spent and all of that jazz. And because, folks, I'm not even messing around, we pump a lot of money into keeping people incarcerated in this country. And that definitely needs to be looked at. There needs to be serious prison reform in this country. No doubt about it. Marty Lee Convatali, 54, quit the Metropolitan Correctional center this week. Her above. Her abrupt departure came about a week after staff at the jail left an inmate whose lawyer says he has the mental capacity of an 8 year old child in a holding cell for 24 hours while awaiting a competency evaluation. A violation of prison prison system regulations. Well, it should be a violation. I mean, this person has the capacity of an eight year old child. Get him in there, let's get a doctor to see him and let's get it moving. Right? I mean, again, just basic humanity is all I'm talking about here. I'm not saying they should have an Xbox in their cell. I'm not saying that they should be drinking, you know, lattes and ordering pizzas. Of course not. They gotta pay their debt to society. You know, you play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, but that doesn't mean that the conditions shouldn't be humane. Right? The conditions should always be humane and it should be a professional atmosphere like any other job. These dudes who show up there as guards or whatever, they shouldn't be showing up with an ax to grind ever. They shouldn't look at these people as animals, none of it. They should look at them as, look, this is my job. I'm here to do a job. Unfortunately, you screwed up, you didn't follow the rules, so your job is to stay in that cell. But a lot of times we don't see that professionalism. And I think a lot of that starts at the top. If that's not coming down from your boss, if your boss is an absolute douche, like a lot of these people obviously are, then that's going to trickle down, right to his, to the people underneath him, to his supervisors, the managers, everybody. You know, they take their lead from their boss. So I think a lot of the accountability comes from these bureaucrats. And unfortunately, we don't see any of that. I mean, stepping down. Why should this person step down? They should have been fired, never mind stepping down. And in the last few weeks, a correctional officer at the facility had also reported sexual misconduct by a superior, which officials at the jail delayed reporting to senior Bureau of Prisons officials, according to three people familiar with the matter. And again, why let this person, Marty Lacone Vitale, the warden who supposedly stepped down, why let them save face by saying they stepped down? Why not say, look, we fired them, they screwed up. They didn't do the right thing. Now we're holding them accountable. This is already the place where Epstein was died. So I think it would behoove everybody for some accountability here. And when they. It always makes me shake my head when they let these people do the whole, oh, yeah, well, I've decided to step down, as if we don't know what that means. So if they step down, they still get their pension. One last atta boy on the back on the way out of the old. The old I want to be elites club. The people could not discuss that matter publicly and spoke to the Associated Press on a condition of anonymity. The man who was left in the holding cell, Richard Quinn, 26, made friends with mice during the agonizing wait, his attorney, Peter Brill, said. He said the top officials at the jail had failed to report the violation to their superiors at the Bureau of Prisons. Doesn't shock me one bit. This is the same place where we had people falling asleep. And what we think that was the first time when those guards fell asleep while they were supposed to be watching Jeffrey Epstein, they. That's the first time it's ever happened, huh? Just so happens the first time these people decide to nap. Epstein's clipped. Come on. It's something that happened there all the time. And I'm sure it wasn't just them. I'm sure it was something everybody was up to. And I'm sure that their. Their boss is even new, and their bosses probably just shook their head about it. Oh, you know, though, that's just the way those guys do it. So, like I said from the jump, I think that whoever the bosses were who were on duty that night, supervisors, manager on duty, all of them, if the guards got arrested and they got fired, then these people should all be arrested and fired, too. And don't even get me started on the people who are in charge of the video. The cameras are pointed at the wrong cell. They lost evidence. Who's in charge of the chain of custody? How come that person has never been held responsible? It's almost like they don't care or like they're bullshitting us. The Bureau of Prisons would not directly address the allegations, but in a statement, the agency said it was committed to ensuring the safety and. And humane treatment of all inmates in our population, our staff, and the public, adding that allegations of staff misconduct are thoroughly investigated and Appropriate action is taken if such allegations are proven true, including the possibility of referral for criminal prosecution when appropriate. So I guess it's never appropriate unless you're just the two guards who fell asleep that night. I guess that's the only time it's appropriate because it certainly should be appropriate for their bosses. And what about the people in charge of this stuff over here? Right? This, this lady who is stepping down, she's in charge of the whole shebang. She's the boss, she's the warden, she's the big cheese. So when stuff goes south, she has to be the one that's held responsible. And if that is not criminally possible. Right, she didn't do anything that's criminal, then she has to be held responsible by losing her pension, a portion of pension, something. But there needs to be repercussions for these people in these high profile, very important jobs. You know, it's not. These people aren't just showing up and, you know, going, they, they can't just show up and be on, on autopilot. These are serious jobs that have serious repercussions throughout society. So we need serious people in these positions, people that are trustworthy. The agency said its employees are required to refrain from harassing conduct and that employees receive training to detect and prevent inappropriate behavior, not only with other staff, but also with inmates. All right, look, I, I don't know how many times people have to tell people this, but leave other people alone in the workplace, especially. What is wrong with you? These people that like, go to work and harass their co workers. I just never understood it. Like, are you that dense? And at the, the Bureau of Prisons, you times it by tenfold, right? If you're, if these dudes working in the female correctional center, I, I've heard some really disgusting, wild stories about what occurs with some of these people. So again, we need to make sure that the people that are being employed by the Bureau of Prisons are good quality folks. And if that means we gotta bump up the pay a little bit, then so be it. Now obviously there's always going to be some weirdos, some psychos that fall through the crack no matter the, no matter what you do. So what you try and you know, do is weed out as many of them as possible by having a, a good benefit package, good pay, making sure that, you know, the people are taken care of. But that's not what we see going on. Right? I mean, I think the pay is decent, but you know, look, there has to be incentives if you want people who are going to do these jobs. And let's face. Who wants to go and spend eight hours a day working in a jail, right? I. You know, I can't see myself doing that. There's probably zero chance for me to ever want to do something like that. But if I did, I'd want to be taken care of, financially compensated, correctly. So maybe that's an option. Bump up the pay, and perhaps that brings in more quality people who are less inclined to act a fool. In a statement, the bureau of prison said Lincoln Vitale has announced her retirement and an interim warden has been assigned. Until a new warden is appointed, the interim leader is listed in court papers as Eric Williams. He will be the fourth warden at the New York City lockup in 18 months and the third person put in charge since a shakeup following Epstein's August 2019 death. Imagine that. Think of that. Eighteen months. Four people. Four people in 18 months. Not a great track record, not a great track record of people in this very important leadership role. And I wonder why. Why is it that they can't find somebody who is of quality character, somebody who is respected enough to come in here and clean this up? I'll tell you why. Because it's systemic. It comes from all the way from the top. This. This chick, this fish stinks from the head, all the way up from the department of justice, rotting all the way down into the bureau of Prisons and all the way down into the lower chambers of that organization. These people, I'll tell you, they. They really. They're really just abhorrent at what. At what they do. The whole entire department of justice is just mindbogglingly bad, in my opinion. Messages seeking comment were sent to Lincoln Vitali. Lincoln Vitale, the former head of the federal prison in Danbury, Connecticut, was appointed warden of the metropolitan correctional center, which had been billed as one of the most secure jails in America. In January of 2020, she took over from an interim warden who replaced Lamine Nadai, the warden in charge at the time of Epstein's suicide, allegedly who was transferred to another job in the agency. And. And imagine that. Imagine you were. You were at your job, right? You were this warden, and Epstein dies on your watch, and you just get transferred to a different joint. You don't get fired. I know a lot of you out there have management jobs, and you're just shaking your head right now because of the accountability factor. In the private sector, there is all sorts of accountability. If you're a supervisor or. Or above, you better believe that you're going to be accountable for. You've never done stuff you're not even responsible for. But if your employees do it, well, you're now responsible for it via proxy. You're the boss, right? Take some responsibility for the project, but not here. You just get transferred on out. What is this, the Catholic church? Epstein's death, a month after his arrest on child sex trafficking charges, has been a lingering shadow over the 600 inmate facility. And in lower Manhattan, the Justice Department's inspector general has yet to complete an investigation into lapses that allow the disgraced financier pedophile to end his life. Two correctional officers responsible for monitoring him that night are awaiting trial on charges they lied on prison records because they were sleeping and browsing the Internet instead of doing their jobs. So again, the prison guards, they're going to be the scapegoats, huh? The warden gets transferred, but the prison guards, they're facing felonies right now. Now, don't get me wrong. I'm not trying to take up for the guards here. They deserve to be punished as well. But should they be the only ones that are punished? Why is it always the low man on the totem pole? Why is it always the low person on the totem pole, This ridiculous nonsense where the bosses, the superiors don't take any responsibility? You know, at the federal level, it has to end. It really has to end. Lincoln Vital faced an immense challenge in trying to turn the facility around, hampered by issues such as the coronavirus pandemic and contraband smuggling, as well as staffing shortages and dwindling supplies early in the pandemic. Now, again, I can't blame her for that. The pandemic stuff is, you know, nobody knows really what to do with this shit. It's wild, right? Nobody knows how to react, what to do. There's no playbook. You can't go onto the, you know, the company website and type in, what do I do? And there's a coronavirus pandemic. You know, everyone was playing it by ear, going by the skin of their teeth. Nobody knew what the deal was. So can't really hold that against her. But when it comes to staffing shortages, hell, yeah, I'm holding that against her. At the very least. Did she put in for more staff? And was she turned down? And if she was, who turned her down? The person who said no should be accountable. See where I'm going with this? The accountability stuff, you know, the stuff that you and I learned in kindergarten. Seems that these people, well, they don't even. They can't even spell it. In March, just before the pandemic prompted federal prisons to halt visitation, the jail went on a week long lockdown after officials got a tip that a gun may have been smuggled inside. Investigators found a handgun and turned up other banned items such as cell phones, narcotics and homemade weapons, sparking an ongoing criminal probe into guard misconduct. And again, that's great. If you're one of these guards that's smuggling shit in there, like this is Orange is the New Black and you're hanging out over at Litchfield, well, you should be penalized to the fullest extent of the law. You should be stripped of whatever kind of badge that the correctional officers have. And you should trade your police uniform for a federal jumpsuit. Accountability. After the gun was discovered, then Attorney General William Darth Barr also launched a Justice Department task force to address criminal misconduct by officers at several correctional facilities. Boy, Darth Barr really loved to launch investigations, huh? I wonder why he never launched an investigation into Mnuchin. Should probably launch an investigation into himself while we're at it. As the coronavirus took hold, Metropolitan Correctional center employees weren't able to get masks while staff restrooms ran out of soap. Workers in charge of refilling the dispensers were pressed into duty as correctional officers. Because of staffing shortages early in the Crisis, more than 25% of staff positions were were vacant. I mean, what. How's that even possible? This is the United States federal government, folks. They don't have an on call board. You mean to tell me y' all ain't got no on call board? So that's something you could fix right away? Sure. There's plenty of people that could use an on call gig. Few. A few. Five shifts a month for some people, put them right over the edge. So we don't have an on call board. Why are you down 25% of staff? As a manager, your job is to make sure that shit is staffed. And if that means you have to have some sort of budget fight with whoever you have to have it with, then so be it. What are the 25% of staff positions were vacant? It's the federal government paying the the dime. They have no problem paying for people to be in prison. They should be able to pay for the people watching them. In May, a court order. In May, a court authorized inspection found that inmates with coronavirus symptoms were neglected and ignored. And social distancing was almost non existent, with some inmates sleeping on bunks within arm's reach of each other. And this is why it's so important that Maxwell is in solitary confinement, that she's in the shoe, because none of that shit's happening. She's by herself in there living her fantastic life. The baloney sandwich life. In a deposition, Lickin Vitale said isolating ill inmates in the jail's special housing unit took priority, even as she agreed that conditions in that part of the jail were worse than in regular cells. Lawyers complained that sick inmates were being made to lie on concrete beds and weren't given sheets, blankets, or pillows. It's ridiculous. That kind of shit is ridiculous. Like I've said a hundred million times, humane behavior and humane treatment is a staple, Right? As much as it feels good to see some scumbag murderer maybe be treated like crap, the idea is not to be part of that right, not to drop to that level. So humane treatment in these jails is a must, in my opinion. And with all of the tax dollars being sent on, spent on, you would think that at the very least they would have it humane. Complaints about conditions haven't abated. Defense lawyer Sabrina Shroff wrote to a judge last week about a client being kept in barbaric and inhumane conditions in solitary confinement at the jail. Schroff said her client, former CIA software engineer Joshua Schulte, who may. Who. Who was made to live in a cell the size of a parking space that is infested with rodents, rodent dropping, cockroaches and mold, and lacks heating, air conditioning, or functioning plumbing as he awaits trial on charges he leaked government secrets to WikiLeaks. So because he might have allegedly leaked some secrets to WikiLeaks, he should live in those conditions. Rodent droppings, cockroaches, and mold. I don't get it. I don't know how anyone could say, yeah, that's cool. No big deal. It needs to be fixed. It needs to be fixed. As of Thursday, There was just one inmate and 13 employees sick with the virus at the Metropolitan Correctional Center. According to the Bureau of Prisons. No deaths have been reported at the jail as a result of the disease. Well, I don't how bad could have been in there. Again, we got to remember that there's always two sides of the story, right? There's the side of the Bureau of Prisons, and then there's the side of the story from the lawyers. And the lawyers are always going to want to paint the picture that their clients are being absolutely mistreated, without a doubt mistreated. And the government is going to want to paint the opposite picture. So remember, we Always gotta meet somewhere in the middle with this stuff and know that both sides are spinning a narrative. The death of inmate Tony McClam in September was not related to the coronavirus, the Bureau of Prisons said, though what happened to him remains unexplained. McClam, who was facing drug charges with, was found unresponsive just two days after arriving at the facility and could not be saved, the bureau said. A lawyer for his family said they were still awaiting the results of his autopsy, but that he had complained of medical issues and didn't receive the appropriate medical attention before his death. Look, I don't know anything about that story, so I'm not even going to comment on it. But I know that if it was one of my loved ones or someone I cared about in one of these prisons, I'd want professionals taking care of them. People that are there to do a job, not to have an axe to grind, not to. Not to browse around on the Internet, and certainly not to let them live in a place with rodents and rats and all of that jazz. I think that if we let ourselves start doing stuff like that, then as a society as a whole, we're just screwed in general. But when it comes to this facility that Epstein was in, let's remember, as bad as it is, folks, it's not like there has been a bunch of deaths here, a bunch of suicides, any of that stuff. So let's not let them run a narrative like, oh, well, Jeffrey Epstein dying here. Well, that was just to be expected because it wasn't, okay, a very rare occurrence. And the Bureau of Prisons, the Department of Justice, and everybody who was involved as far as bosses on down, all of them need to be held responsible. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter at boby underscore cap ucci. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. And remember, folks, tomorrow 7:00pm Pacific Standard Time, we'll be doing the live stream once again. So you'll also be able to find that link in in the description box. All right, folks, I will see you tomorrow and we will talk some more during the live stream. I hope you all have a fantastic night. And if you're out, please do not drink and drive. Talking about the ongoing Ghislaine Maxwell saga as she tries and maneuvers herself into a position where she has the narrative set that she is being so mistreated in jail, that she is being treated so poorly in jail. And with the COVID outbreak on top of that, how can you give her bail? Well, we know that the prosecutors sent a letter to the court and explained the treatment of Ghislaine Maxwell and pretty much slapped down the assertions made by her and her legal team. Well, of course, that wasn't going to be where it ends. Ghislaine Maxwell and her legal team have filed a brief now with the court, and they're disputing what the federal government is saying. They're disputing what the Bureau of Prisons is saying. And of course, we knew this was coming. Right Again, Ghislaine Maxwell and her legal team, they're not going to just sit on their hands. They're not just going to take it laying down and say, sure, put me in prison for the rest of my life. They're going to use whatever is necessary to try and get this vile woman, this new bail hearing and then get her out of jail while she awaits trial. That is their goal. And they will use whatever loophole, whatever technicality, whatever they possibly can to try and achieve this goal. Now, so far, the judge has not really been too receptive to Ghislaine Maxwell and her strategies. Their legal team, Ghislaine Maxwell's legal team has taken loss after loss in multiple courtrooms as they try and navigate their way through this very dangerous obstacle course that is Ghislaine Maxwell and the truth. See, it's difficult to defend a client when you know that that client is not innocent. And you see that whole entire strategy form before your eyes as they continue to try and find those technicalities. Right? This is never going to be a case where her lawyers are like, oh, yeah, she's innocent. She didn't do any of this stuff. That's not what they're looking for. They're looking for some sort of technicality, some sort of loophole, some sort of narrative that they can run with. Like this one. Oh, the judge, she's being treated so badly, she's not getting treated like the rest of the inmates. And she's getting a flashlight shined in her face every five minutes. And, And. And they try and build that narrative and they wrap it up with the COVID pandemic, and then that becomes their. Their. Their. Their talking point, right? Oh, she should be let out. Her conditions are terrible in jail as it is. And then you add this Covid on top of it. You have to let her out. And that is the position that her legal team has right now. And they're going to do everything that they can to try and push that narrative and to get Judge Nathan to sign off on it. So they fired off their brief in response to the brief that was sent over by the prosecutors. And that is what we're going to talk about this morning. So this article is from the New York Post headline, ghislaine Maxwell Losing her Hair from Onerous imprisonment. Lawyers say this article was authored by Rebecca Rosenberg. So the jail conditions are what's causing her to lose her hair, huh? I doubt it. Maybe the stress brought on by being in jail can make you lose some of your hair. But just being in jail, all of a sudden you go bald. All of a sudden you lose those locks and now you're rocking a Telly Savalas balded head. What does that even mean? The conditions in jail are making her lose her hair? How about the fact that she's stressing constantly about never seeing the light of day again? That's making her lose her hair? Probably. I mean, look, I don't work at the Bosley Hair Club for Men or anything like that, but, you know, conditions in jail are so tough for Ghislaine Maxwell. The accused pedophile, procure co conspirator, fellow scumbag, general general all around scumbag and bipedal serpent is losing her hair and is wasting away to skin and bone. Her lawyers complained in a new court filing. And now, remember, this comes on the tail end of the prosecutor's sending their brief over and denying all of this already because these assertions were made by her legal team previously, remember? And they've been talking about how bad her conditions are in jail, how terrible things are for Ghislaine Maxwell in jail for pretty much the whole entire duration of her stay so far, and certainly since Bobby Sternheim has joined the team. That has been one of the constant talking points for Bobby Sternheim since she's joined Elaine Maxwell's legal team. And she has been laser focused on trying to leverage some of these technicalities into a get out of jail free card for Ghislaine Maxwell. While her weight may currently be fairly consistent, she had lost over 15 pounds and she is sustaining hair loss, wrote attorney Bobby Sternheim in The letter to U.S. district Judge Allison Nathan, who is overseeing Maxwell's sex trafficking case. Again, stress can cause all of that, right? Anxiety, stress, lose weight, stop eating, withdraw. All of that stuff can occur. And is she under a lot of stress? Hell yeah. Is she experiencing a ton of anxiety? Probably. So. Again, I don't think it's the actual prison stay that is causing her to have any sort of issue. Lose some hair, maybe, or lose a couple of pounds. Pretty sure that has to do with the stress of being in prison. The filing was in response to a letter the Federal Bureau, Bureau, Bureau of Prison sent the judge, insisting that Maxwell is well cared for and has maintained a healthy 134 pound weight while at the Metropolitan Detention center in Brooklyn. Now, we know that according to Ghislaine Maxwell's legal team, she's saying that Ghislaine lost 15 pounds. But according to the brief filed by the Department of Prisons, they said she was fluctuating between a couple of pounds, give or take. So, like usual, there's three sides to the story. Her side, the government's side, and then the truth. Because the government's smarmy, too. Folks believe it, right? So I take everything they say to me with a grain of salt as well. But it's obvious what Ghislaine Maxwell is up to here. She's definitely trying to leverage this. Her lawyers are trying to leverage this. And they're going to use any tool that they find in their toolbox that they think can get the job done, even if it's not the proper tool. Right. Sometimes you got to use the back end of the measuring tape to hammer in the nail. And that's what these people are doing right now. They're scrambling, looking for any avenue, any foothold that they can dig their feet into and build a proper strategy to try and get her off the hook. Because again, they'll never, ever, ever, ever, ever be able to win in a trial. In my opinion, a jury of her peers is going to hear the evidence laid out before her, and it is going to be a real rough go for her lawyers to try and get this lady off the hook, especially considering just the circumstantial evidence that's available to us. And imagine if they go and get all of these girls, the ones from Palm beach, all the little. The little high school girls, all the girls that were abused after, and they come in and they testify against Ghislaine Maxwell, one after one, and you just have a line and a line, a line of girls that are testifying against Ghislaine Maxwell. How was her defense team supposed to counteract that? Well, my client says she didn't do it, so that's the end of that. Let's wrap this trial up. She's looking at big time trouble and if they. They really go after this case the way they should, and they continue to prosecute this case in a aggressive manner, then the only hope Ghislaine Maxwell has, in my opinion, is one of these technicalities or one of these loopholes. Maxwell's lawyers have frequently complained about the terrible terms of her confinement, including frequent strip searches, being awoken every 15 minutes by a flashlight at night to ensure she's still alive, and countless meals consisting of no more than bread and butter. Oh, I don't buy that. I certainly don't buy that. Just bread and butter? What is this, 1956 at Leavenworth? Give me a break. Bread and butter. Maybe that's all she's chosen to eat off of her fantastic spread of bologna. Corn. 18 day old corn bread and then some bread and butter. Maybe she chose just to eat the bread and butter, but I'm sure she was provided with a full meal like every other inmate. Three hots and a cot. That's the deal when you go and have a stay, courtesy of the federal government. Sternheim wrote that while her meal plan may be in compliance with the BoP policy now, it was not for the first six weeks of her incarceration. Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure that she was just being starved. They weren't giving her any food whatsoever. They were like, starve, Ghislaine, you're not having any food, bruh. That's what they would have you believe that the prison guards would come by and it was like Shawshank Redemption. They'd beat her, they'd pull her out of the cell, they'd strip search her in a violent manner. And then once she starts calming down and she starts falling asleep, they point a flashlight in her eyes. Give me a break, okay? She gets a flashlight pointed in her cell like every other convict. That's what it's called when they're, you know, doing the rounds. She's been kept in isolation and been denied access to education and leisure programs, movies, religious services and other opportunities. The letter states. Wait a minute. All of a sudden she's religious? She's found God. Now she's gonna go and do some hallelujah? Do a little bit of a hallelujah. And as far as education, the Oxford educated Ghislaine Maxwell is going to take a few community college courses while she's in the who scowl, huh? All right. Okay. I guess maybe if there's a. A course on morality, maybe she should take that because she obviously skipped that course at Oxford and leisure programs. What does that even mean what? Is she going to be out on the yard with the other girls making friendship bracelets? Her lawyers really think you're stupid. They really think you're dumb. And they think you're going to believe this nonsensical narrative that they're trying to pitch, but they're wrong. Leisure time, huh? Leisure time is for people who didn't abuse children, Ghislaine. It's obvious that Ms. Maxwell is bearing the brunt of BOP incompetence. Sternheim wrote. No, she's bearing the brunt of her own incompetence, her own disgusting deeds and her own vile way of life. The Department of Corrections and the prison of the Bureau of Prisons. Well, that's just part of your new journey, Ghislaine. Get used to it, okay? Get very, very, very used to it. Because while the Department of Prisons, the Bureau of Prisons might be incompetent, if anyone has ever deserved to be in custody, it most certainly is this bipedal serpent, in my opinion. She said the MD. She said the MDC has imposed extraordinarily onerous conditions of constraint on Ms. Maxwell to avoid the catastrophic consequences of negligence occurring at the MCC that resulted in the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Well, shouldn't you be happy about that if you're the lawyer? What, you want her to get killed? Does that benefit you or something, Ms. Sternheim? She kills herself or something happens to her, what then? No more gaudy checks rolling in for you? So what is it that you propose? Do you propose that she leaves isolation and she's put on the main line? Do you propose that she is given a whole wing of the jail to come and go as she pleases? What is it exactly that you propose? Oh, we know has nothing to do with any of this. It's all about trying to get her out. That is what you're setting up, Ms. Stern. Heim. It is so transparent what these people are up to. Maxwell's alleged co conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around scuzzbag and bipedal serpent as well. Jeffrey Epstein hanged himself at the BOP's Metropolitan Correctional center in Manhattan last year while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. Uh, hanged himself, huh? You mean allegedly hanged himself. I'm sure him and Nicholas Tartaglione were discussing, you know, chicken colored Parmesan recipes and how Jeffrey Epstein could, you know, make a proper Sunday sauce. Sternheim demanded that the warden be called before the court to debrief the judge directly on the conditions. Well, look, to be honest with you, I Don't think it's a bad idea if the warden gets called before a judge at some point anyway for this facility, to make sure the whole facility is being managed correctly. Not what. Not about what Ghislaine Maxwell's up to. You really think the warden has time for that? As if there isn't, you know, X amount of other prisoners that have to be facilitated and maintained and watched over. So the warden should come down and have a chat about Ghislaine Maxwell. What makes her so effing special? The back and forth over Maxwell's confinement comes as her. Her attorneys have renewed her bid for bail. That right there tells you everything you need to know that one little portion of this article it be it cut the back and forth over Maxwell's confinement comes as her attorneys have renewed her bid for bail. That's what this is all about, folks. That's all of about. That's all that this is about. They know that Maxwell's being treated like anybody else would be treated in there. They know that. But they're gonna try and spin it. They're gonna try and dress up the facts and they're going to try and sell it to you as if she is being treated like she is in a Soviet Gulag. After her arrest in July on charges she recruited girls and women to be sexually abused by her and Epstein Nathan denied her bid for release on a five million dollar bond. Five million dollars. That was a weak proposal anyway, by the way. How you gonna come with a weak ass, sorry ass, 5 million dollar proposal for bail when Epstein was talking about a hundred million? Because I'll tell you, in my opinion, Ghislaine Maxwell was just as bad as Jeffrey Epstein. She wasn't some shrinking violet. She wasn't somebody who was just getting orders and yes, doing, doing a yes man routine. She was hatching these plots. She was making sure that they went into motion and the lieutenants below her, the core four, well, they were there to make sure that Ghislaine and Jeffrey's orders were followed by to a tee. In a Nov. 25 letter to the judge unsealed Monday, Maxwell's lawyer Mark Cohen asked that the bail application be filed under seal to protect her friends and family who plan to co sign the bond. Zero chance that's occurring. This will all be a public spectacle. This is something that the public has an interest in and. And the days of hiding in the shadows for these people are over. If you're going to sign the bond to, to try and get Ghislaine Maxwell out and you're going to co sign her, then that's probably going to come with some scrutiny from the media, right? You would think. Now, should anybody be giving anyone, sending death threats to anybody or threatening anybody? Hell no. Hell no. That's lunatic behavior. But as far as talking about people who co sign these bonds or people that are involved in trying to spring her, hell yeah. That's going to be discussed. It's an important part of the story. It, it adds context, right? All of the people that are around her, all of the people that are working with her and for her to try and get her out, they're all parts of this story. And the second that you put your name down on a legal document like this, you inject yourself into that story and people are going to have some questions. They are legitimately afraid that if their identities become public, they will be subjected to the same relentless media scrutiny and threats that Ms. Maxwell has experienced. Cohen wrote. Again, anybody out there thinking threatening anybody else is an absolute moron. The idea is to air these people out and put pressure on prosecution to bring them to justice. And furthermore, have the, have people around Maxwell received some shitty emails? Probably, yeah, probably. That's just the nature of the beast, right? But unfortunately for them, they're defending a very vile person and there's going to be a lot of people with a lot of questions. So while I'll never condone any sort of abusive, bullying behavior or threatening people, that's a bunch of bullshit. I do support hard questions. And guess what? Those hard questions don't have to be framed nicely. These people for way too long have gotten off with softball questions, if questions were even ever asked. And now things get ramped up a little bit and some hard questions come in from a few different, different areas, different people. And all of a sudden it's, oh, we're being harassed, we're being threatened. And I don't buy it. Just more fodder for the narrative. More fodder for their narrative. And it goes to help bolster their argument that Ghislaine Maxwell should be out of jail waiting for bail, at least in their mind. The filing included examples of several death threats against Maxwell posted to social media. The judge has agreed to redact the names of friends and family in court papers, but not to seal the entire filing. So I'm pretty sure anybody who has ever had any sort of publicity has received death threats on social media. Have you folks taken a look at, at Twitter lately and the unhinged behavior you see on there on a regular basis. So I'm sure there's been some wild ass people posting some wild ass shit on social media, but they'll blow that up into like, there's a faction of ninja assassins on the trail looking to get Ghislaine Maxwell and her family when that's not the case. People have questions. Some of those questions are hard and some of those questions might be gruff. But guess what? Ghislaine Maxwell has herself to blame for all of this. She created this for herself. She chose to cavort with Jeffrey Epstein. She chose to be involved in this criminal conspiracy and she chose to help abuse these children and girls. So if you're going to co sign for somebody like this and you're going to come out swinging in her defense, don't think that you're not going to be met in the center of the octagon and challenged, because this lady right here is as vile as they come. I don't see one single reason why she should be out on bail while she awaits her trial. And all of the stuff that her legal team has brought before us, all of the assertions that they have made, they have provided no evidence of any of this. These are all just assertions. And as far as I can tell, a bunch of hyperbole from her legal team. So hopefully Judge Nathan recognizes all of this for what it is. She seems to be doing that. And I can understand the redacting of some of the names. I get that. Right. Eventually it's all gonna come out, but I understand some of the redacting of the names. If there's some maniacs contacting these people, I get it. But at the end of the day, it's not going to stay private forever or for long. It's going to come out. Who is defending Ghislaine Maxwell, who is putting up dough for her to get out of jail, all of that stuff's gonna come out. And we know that she still has friends, we know that she still has some connections. I've said it from the jump though, that she has been burned as an asset. She no longer is afforded the protections that she had while she was being run as an asset. With Epstein, those protections are long gone. But she still does enjoy some of the contact she once had. And she might have that dirt on some of these people as well. And you would think she does. Right? So that puts her still in a pretty decent position to try and perhaps twist an arm or two to get some help here. But as far as having the backing and protection of the intelligence community. That's done. She's burned as an asset, just like Epstein. And now they're left to float on their own. And all those ties that they had to intelligence, be it, you know, Mossad, the CIA, Russian intelligence, whatever it may be, all of those ties, all of that evidence that ties them together has been burned, just like their assets, Epstein and Maxwell. Because that's how the intelligence community works. You're never going to be able to put together a puzzle and have it show the intelligence community's fingers in this. That's going to only be done by hard charging forensic accounting work. My question is, when in the hell are we going to start seeing that? If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I. @protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter Obby Capucci. All of the links that go with this episode are in the description box.