The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 10) (8/10/26)

Summary

The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 10)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: August 10, 2026

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Brief Overview

In this episode, Bobby Capucci continues his deep-dive analysis of the New Mexico Epstein Commission's interim report, focusing on survivor testimonies, corroborating witness interviews, and evidence surrounding the abuse that allegedly took place at Jeffrey Epstein's Zorro Ranch. The episode centers on the accounts of several Jane Does, witness corroborations including a key reflexologist, and concerning new details about staff, visitors, and possible coverups at the property.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Survivor Testimonies: Abuse at Zorro Ranch

Capucci reads and discusses powerful statements from multiple survivors—referred to as Jane Doe 3, Jane Doe 4, and Jane Doe 5—detailing their experiences of abuse, coercion, and control at Zorro Ranch and beyond.

• Jane Doe 3's Sentencing Statement

  • "In 2004, when I was 15 years old, I flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane to Zorro Ranch where I was sexually molested by him for many hours...I remember feeling so small and powerless, especially after he positioned me by laying me on his floor so that I was confronted by all the frame photographs on his dresser of him smiling with wealthy celebrities and politicians." (03:15)
  • She describes the psychological manipulation Epstein used, framing her abuse as beneficial, and recounts the trauma of being forced to lie about her experiences:
    • "That was the first of many lies I was forced to carry for him. The weight of which proliferated my trauma." (03:48)
  • Notably, she describes talking to another girl about breaking house rules (with ATVs), who told her:
    • "Don't worry, no one gets in trouble for anything here." (05:00)

• Jane Doe 4's Testimony

  • Describes being flown to Zorro Ranch, which Epstein pitched as being like Disneyland, and referenced the elaborate grounds, amenities, and a "miniature town" for staff. (05:14)
  • Claimed she was trafficked to New Mexico specifically to have sex with Bill Richardson.

• Jane Doe 5's Legal Allegations

  • Alleged repeated abuse between 2007-2010, starting when she was in her early 20s.
  • Recruited in NYC as an aspiring ballet dancer in financial need.
  • "Her opportunities were endless so long as she complied with his dictates, but that he could take it all away if she did not." (06:02)
  • Describes escalating control over her life, including who she could associate with, what she wore, and work options.
  • Named multiple locations where she was trafficked: NYC, Florida, Virgin Islands, and New Mexico—including during the period when Epstein was under house arrest and wearing an ankle monitor.

2. Corroborating Witness: The Reflexologist

Capucci reviews a detailed interview with a reflexologist who worked as a contractor at Zorro Ranch, offering important corroborative evidence.

• The reflexologist worked primarily for Maxwell (1999-2008), was at the ranch only when Epstein was present, and usually performed treatments in restricted areas (library or Maxwell's bedroom).
• Did not witness direct abuse but was unsettled by the number of "young, attractive girls"—told they worked for "the Limited or Victoria’s Secret."
  • "That was the one thing that disturbed me, that you can't really be on the property unless you're attractive." (07:54)
• Described an outsized insistence on discretion and non-disclosure:
  • "At some point, Maxwell or a housekeeper asked a reflexologist to sign a non-disclosure agreement, but she refused to sign it." (08:24)
  • Capucci notes the NDA specified a $250,000 penalty for breach (10:44).
• Maxwell was described as "managing Epstein’s world," meticulously training staff and insisting on service perfection.
• Noted one instance where Epstein appeared in a bathrobe but "was never inappropriate with her."

3. Patterns of Recruitment & Control

• Maxwell sought attractive young reflexologists for multiple Epstein properties.
• Young women, believed to be 18 or younger, routinely arrived at the ranch via private aircraft or helicopter escorted by staff.
• Reflexologist observed these young, attractive women and described one as “maybe 18, very sweet and watching, fascinated” as she was trained (10:34).

4. Evidence from Financial and Digital Records

• Frequent charges at Santa Fe spa “10,000 Waves” on Maxwell’s AmEx indicate a potential recruitment hub (12:12).
• FBI recovered binders of compact discs from Epstein’s Manhattan residence with labels such as "Young," "Nudes," "Miscellaneous Nudes," "Girlpic Nudes," and notably, several marked "Zorro" or "Zorro Pics" suggesting content directly tied to the ranch (13:14).
  • Cataloged folders listed by geography (e.g., "Zorro," "Thailand," "Moscow Girls"), consistent with global trafficking patterns (13:45).

5. Claims of Secret Burials and FBI Involvement

• An anonymous source claiming to be a former Zorro staffer alleged to the FBI (via encrypted email) that two foreign girls were buried on Epstein’s orders; offered footage on a USB drive for ransom paid in bitcoin—unverified, possibly an extortion attempt (14:37).
• A separate trespasser claimed to find what looked like grave plots on the ranch—again, unverified, but photos published by Al Jazeera in March 2026 stirred renewed interest.
  • "The March 2026 search using cadaver dogs and ground-penetrating radar has not confirmed the presence of human remains." (15:50)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the psychological impact of abuse:

  • Jane Doe 3: "I felt powerless, not merely because one man wanted to strip me of my innocence, but because I was the victim of a system that just disenfranchises human beings, making them vulnerable to pedophilic exploitation." (04:18)

• On the culture of impunity:

  • Jane Doe 3 recounting another survivor's words: "Don't worry, no one gets in trouble for anything here." (05:00)

• On staff recruitment requirements:

  • Reflexologist: "You can't really be on the property unless you're attractive." (07:54)

• On refusal to participate in the cover-up:

  • Reflexologist: "They wanted me to sign a contract, like a celebrity contract — like if you see anything going on here, you have to keep it private. And I refused to sign it." (10:44)

• On management style:

  • Witness statement: "Maxwell as managing Epstein's world in the sense of their home. She would be there to do trainings with new staff on how to serve guests...Service had to be exact." (11:50)

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Key Segment Timestamps

• 01:23–03:48: Introduction and Jane Doe 3 testimony
• 05:00: "No one gets in trouble" — survivor recount
• 05:14–06:52: Jane Doe 4 and 5 testimonies and legal allegations
• 07:15–08:24: Reflexologist background and experiences at the ranch
• 08:24–08:41: NDA pressure, staff discretion
• 10:22–10:44: Arrival of young women, NDA specifics
• 12:12: 10,000 Waves spa involvement
• 13:14–13:45: Evidence: Discs, computer folders, trafficking routes
• 14:37–15:50: Anonymous burial allegations & FBI investigation
• 15:50–16:29: Conclusion and next episode preview

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Episode Tone & Language

• The tone is serious, direct, and committed to revealing uncomfortable truths. Capucci’s style is empathic toward survivors, focused on clarity, transparency, and an unrelenting pursuit of justice. He often quotes survivor statements verbatim to preserve their impact, and delivers analysis in straightforward, accessible language.

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Takeaway

This episode exposes the systematic abuse, exploitation, and trauma facilitated at Zorro Ranch, bolstered by firsthand statements and corroborative accounts. Capucci methodically presents survivor experiences, staff and witness perspectives, and supporting evidence, underscoring not just the depravity of Epstein and Maxwell's operations, but the culture of silence and complicity that enabled it. The episode leaves the listener with a sense of the scale of abuse and signals that further investigative episodes will follow.

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What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we left off with the New Mexico interim report on Jeffrey Epstein's abuse. Jane Doe Number three, a victim identified as Jane Do3, provided a victim statement at Maxwell's sentencing hearing describing the abuse she suffered on Zorro ranch in 2004. Jane Doe number three testified in part in 2004, when I was 15 years old, I flew on Jeffrey Epstein's plane to Zorro Ranch where I was sexually molested by him for many hours. What I remember most vividly was him explaining to me how beneficial the experience was for me and how much he was helping me grow. Yikes. I remember feeling so small and powerless, especially after he positioned me by laying me on his floor so that I was confronted by all the frame photographs on his dresser of him smiling with wealthy celebrities and politicians. After he finished with me, he told me to describe in detail how good my first sexual experience felt. That was the first of many lies I was forced to carry for him. The weight of which proliferated my trauma. I felt powerless, not merely because one man wanted to strip me of my innocence, but because I was the victim of a system that just disenfranchises human human beings, making them vulnerable to pediophilic exploitation. I first identified this feeling the night after I was molested by Epstein when another girl and I took out two ATVs and raced them across the mesa. I crashed mine and expressed my concern to the other girl of getting in trouble, which she replied to me, don't worry, no one gets in trouble for anything here. Jane Doe 4 Jane Dolfor reported that she was sexually abused on Zorro Ranch. She described having been flown to Zorro Ranch, which he compared to Disneyland. She wrote that the ranch had manicured grounds and gurgling fountains, a tennis court and a grass airstrip and hangar. She also wrote that the property had its own miniature town that housed Epstein's servants and groundskeepers. She wrote that Epstein called the main house his castle. Jane Doe 4 also testified in deposition that she was trafficked to New Mexico to have sex with Bill Richardson. Jane Doe Number 5 Jane Do 5 Alleged in a lawsuit in the United States District Court of the Southern District of New York that Epstein took her to Zoro Ranch a number of times between 2007 and 2010 when she was in her early 20s. She said that she was coerced there to have sex with Epstein and his friends. Jane Doe 5 stated that she met Epstein in New York, where she was an aspiring ballet dancer. Jane Doe 5 needed money to pay her mother's rent. Epstein reportedly told her that her opportunities were endless so long as she complied with his dictates, but that he could take it all the way from her if she did not. Jane Do5 provided Epstein with massages in New York and soon was doing so on a regular basis. Epstein took Jando 5 to Little St. James. Shortly thereafter, Jeffrey Epstein forced Jane Doe 5 to engage in sexual activity with Associate 2 in his presence for his own sexual gratification. Eventually, Epstein controlled nearly every aspect of Jane Doe 5's life, from the clothing and jewelry she was permitted to wear to the career path she was permitted to follow, to the food she was allowed to consume. Jane Doe reports that she was made to engage in commercial sex acts in New York every year from 2006 to 2012, in the Virgin Islands from 2006 to 2012, in Florida from 2007 to 2012, including as noted sexual activity while Jeffrey Epstein wore his ankle bracelet, and in New Mexico between 2007 and 2010. Corroborating evidence Reflexologist interview On May 4, 2021, reflexologist referenced above as Zorro Ranch contractor was interviewed in connection with SDNY's prosecution of Maxwell. The reflexologist reported that she performed foot reflexology service for Maxwell and Epstein between 99 and 2008. The first known FBI contact with this nine year witness occurred in 2021, 22 years after she began working at Zorro Ranch. A transcript of the interview was made and is partially redacted. Because the reflexologist's name has been redacted, the commission has been unable to positively identify her. The reflexologist had not been previously interviewed by law enforcement investigating Epstein. The reflexologist was introduced to the FBI by a colleague, a local psychotherapist who also did massage work for Maxwell. FBI agents visited the colleague's Santa Fe home but did not find her. The reflexologist agreed to facilitate contact. A massage therapist working for Epstein who was also a peer and a psychotherapist introduced her to Maxwell who wanted her feet worked on. The first treatment she was known to provide was in 1999 and the last one was in 2008. The reflexologist did not go to the ranch regularly, only whenever Epstein was in town and in total of approximately 30 times over nine years. The reflexologist worked primarily on Maxwell and only three known times on Epstein over the course of nine years. The reflexologist usually went to the ranch in the evening hours. She was asked to wait in the kitchen or maidquarters. She she usually did work in a room directly off the kitchen which she believed to be a library and more than once in Maxwell's bedroom. She didn't see much of the house. The reflexologist stated that her sessions with Maxwell and Epstein were professional and that she never witnessed any of the things Epstein was accused of. On one occasion the reflexologist saw several young women that were girls and Maxwell told her that they were working for the Limited or Victoria's Secret and that they were just younger girls. These were the only young women the reflexologists saw at the ranch. The reflexologist estimated the age of the girls as 18 or under and were just young attractive girls. The reflexologist also helped train a massage therapist who worked for Epstein and who appeared to be about 18 years old and attractive. In addition, Maxwell and asked her for a reference for a reflexologist in Manhattan. But you have to be attractive. That was the one thing that disturbed me, that you can't really be on the property unless you're attractive. The only thing the reflexologist found inappropriate at the ranch is when Epstein appeared dressed in nothing but a bathrobe. However, Epstein was never inappropriate with her and was respectful of her training and interested to know whether she could train his massage therapist. At some point, Maxwell or a housekeeper asked a reflexologist to sign a non disclosure agreement, but she refused to sign it. On subsequent visits to the ranch, she was asked to sign the non disclosure agreement, but refused to do so and eventually decided not to go back to the ranch after learning of the first arrest.

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testimony that may corroborate survivor accounts of their abuse on Zorro Ranch include the following Maxwell asked a reflexologist to recommend a reflexologist for the New York property. Maxwell stated, you have to be attractive. Young women arrive by aircraft. On one occasion, while waiting in the kitchen to be called for a session, the witness observed approximately four young women arrive, escorted by staff it was the reflexologist understanding that they had arrived by aircraft. They were being driven from the airport or a helicopter. And I was waiting in the room off the kitchen when they arrived, as I'm waiting for Ghislaine to work on Ghislaine. And there were several young women that were girls that would be there and I was only. I don't know, the colleague told me or Ghislaine told me the that they were working for the Limited or Victoria's Secret and they were just younger girls. The young women who arrived by aircraft were 18 or younger. Asked to estimate their age, the reflexologist stated probably like 18 or under. But I never saw someone who looked like 14 or 15. Epstein asked a reflexologist to teach young women, described as his massage therapist how to perform reflexology. The woman was already living in the house in flew with them, but between properties she comes with me. She estimated her age, maybe 18. The reflexologist described her as young, attractive girl that sat next to me, who was very sweet and watching, fascinated. Toward the end of the working relationship, staff attempted to get the reflexologist to sign a non disclosure agreement with a $250,000 penalty. They wanted me to sign a contract saying like a celebrity contract, like if you see anything going on here, you have to keep it private. And I refused to sign it. The witness cannot recall who specifically presented the NDA, but she believed it was one of the housekeepers. The reflexologist specifically recalled the penalty amount. If I did violate the contract, I'd be sued for $250,000. The reflexologist described Maxwell as managing Epstein's world in the sense of their home. She would be there to do trainings with new staff on how to serve guests. Service had to be exact. If they were at the dinner table, they had to be served a certain way from a certain like come to the left. The witness heard that guests could include a celebrity, though the reflexologist never personally saw any guests other than the young woman described above. 10,000 waves. Witness statements indicate that Epstein recruited massage therapists through a Santa Fe Spa. 10,000 waves Evidence shows that Epstein and Maxwell's patronage of 10,000 waves covered a span of at least 10 years, although with that frequency, it's not certain. American Express account statements prepared for Ghislaine Maxwell show a May 23rd, 2005 charged to 10,000 waves in the amount of $805 and a June 21st, 2006 charge to 10,000 waves in the amount of $471.23. As noted above, the email dated August 8th, 2015 Epstein told author and Kissinger associate executive Joshua Cooper Ramo, a New Mexico native, that he was going to 10,000 waves photographic evidence the safe FBI agents searching Epstein 71st Street Manhattan residence found inside a safe in the third floor closet several binders containing sleeves of compact discs, one of which are labeled with handwriting. The search warrant application describes One disk is marked Young, another disk is marked Nudes. Another is marked Miscellaneous Nudes. Yet another is marked Girlpic Nudes. Some disks contain the word Zorro or lsj. For example, one disk is marked Zorro. Pics C's Device Catalog A catalog was made of contents from C's Device computer. The first page lists a folder labeled Zorro alongside folders labeled Thais Moscow Girls, Africa Min Nudes, Yoga Girls, Bali, Thailand, Russia Book the geographic organization of these folders, which are sorted by nationality or region, is consistent with the trafficking routes documented elsewhere in the available documentation. The folders do not name by themselves. Establish what the folders contained FBI Observations the FBI Albuquerque Tactical Intelligence Report states that a contractor likely observed victims in a room at the ranch and that employees were sworn to secrecy about Property details On November 25, 2019, Albuquerque radio host Eddie Aragon forwarded an email to the FBI. The original was sent from an encrypted Proton mail account on November 21, 2019, someone claiming to be a former staff at Zorro. It alleged that two foreign girls were buried on the orders of Jeffrey and Madam G. This email is anonymous unverified claim that also demanded one bitcoin for a USB drive allegedly containing video footage, listed specific video descriptions with timestamps and and provided a bitcoin wallet address. The sender specified a payment deadline, documentation if any, as to whether the FBI investigated. The underlying claim is not available separately from 2019 Proton email a different individual claimed to have trespassed on Zorro Ranch in 2020 and found grave like plots that appear to have been excavated. Photos were published by Al Jazeera on March 17, 2026. This is an unverified anonymous claim from a self described trespasser. The March 2026 search using cadaver dogs and ground penetrating radar has not confirmed the presence of human remains. Alright folks, we're going to wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.

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