
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent opened a Senate Finance Committee hearing by going directly after Sen. Ron Wyden, accusing him of attacking the Treasury Department over Epstein-related financial records while ignoring his own son’s past contact with...
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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein chronicles. On Wednesday, June 3, 2026, Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant had an appearance before the Senate Finance Committee. And as you can imagine, things went sideways very quickly. And Scott Bessant came out swinging. He had a lot to say about Senator Ron Wyden and Ron Wyden's son, who was also found in the Epstein files. And I think that one of the things that gets lost here is that while both sides are throwing accusations at each other, both sides have plenty of blame to bear. I mean, we're talking about decades of failure, Republican and Democrat. And if Senator Wyden wants to be taken seriously, then he has to clean up his own house, literally and figuratively. And as far as Bessent goes, well, what's the big deal? I thought Epstein was a hoax. So if Senator Wyden's son was hanging out with him and getting money from him, why do you care? Epstein wasn't up to no good. He was a great guy, remember? Just a lone predator. Certainly nothing to the level that we've heard. Right, Mr. Bessent? So what's the big deal? You see, here's the big problem. Both sides want to use Epstein when it's convenient, and when they think that they can use it as a political cudgel, they're going to do that. But not only is that a losing strategy, it's damaging to the case overall. When you have people retreating into their bunkers talking about, oh, well, my side is right and your side is wrong, and nobody on my side could have done anything that you're saying, then all hope is lost. And honestly, it feels like we're getting to that point. If we can't come together over a topic like this, then we're just cooked. And I don't think there is ever going to be any going across the aisle or getting somebody on the quote unquote, other team to believe what you believe. Those days are over. It's not about policy anymore. It's about personality. Today's article is from the New York Post, and the headline, scott Bent Goes Scorched Earth Against Senator Ron Wyden over the Epstein claims this article was authored by Emily Gooden. Treasury Secretary Scott Besant came out firing at Democrats on the Senate Finance Committee Wednesday, offering a cheeky response when asked about a widely reported altercation with a fellow member of the Trump administration. Bessant started his appearance before the panel slamming Senator Ron Wyden, the committee's ranking member, over family ties to Jeffrey Epstein. But I thought Epstein was no big deal. And if Ron Wyden's family ties were important, then so, too, wouldn't that mean that the Trump ties are important? Like, I don't know if Scott Besant thought this one through, or maybe he did, and he just knows that people have made their minds up already and no amount of evidence at this point is going to change it. And that's what happens when you overly politicize something. And look, that's what the Democrats are doing. They haven't given us anything of substance. They've talked a big game, but what have they done? Who have they held accountable? All those people going to Congress and lying. Nobody held in contempt, nobody charged with perjury, no teeth to the bill. So it all seems performative. And then when you add to the fact that you have somebody like Mr. Wyden making all kinds of crazy allegations about Epstein, and then his son has ties to Epstein as well, I mean, you would think that you'd be very upfront about that. Look, I have a lot to say about Jeffrey Epstein. My son, my own son had business dealings with him, and we're going to investigate that, too. But no, it's always about the other side. It's never about taking accountability for what you did or what your buddy did. Senator Wyden has mendaciously slandered the Treasury Building and an attempt to cover up his son having an investment meeting with Jeffrey Epstein to ask for funding. Bessant charged in his opening statement, referring to an April 2016 gathering that Adam Wyden attended at the convicted sex offender's Manhattan mansion, at which he sought investment backing for his hedge fund, ACM Capital Management. Okay, cool. I think that he should be investigated. And if his son took any money from Epstein, that should be looked at, too. But if that's a big deal, isn't it a big deal that Donald Trump was on the plane and then lied about it? Look, folks, we gotta call balls and strikes for what they are. And for me, it would be a whole lot easier to choose one of these dumbass teams and grift, but I'm not going to do that. I refuse to do it. The Whole entire thing is fucked up. It's not just one side, not when it comes to Epstein. And look, I'm not one of these people that likes to use, oh, all sides, right? Because sometimes it's not all sides, but in this instance it is absolutely both sides. And both sides have a lot of blame that they need to shoulder. And if I was one of these survivors, I wouldn't trust anybody in Congress, Republican or Democrat. Where were all these people previously? You know, they all want to talk a big game, but where were they when Virginia was asking for help? Where were they when Maria was telling her story? That's right. Nowhere to be found or trying to lump everybody together with the Q anon weirdos. That's what was happening. But now all of a sudden, these Democrats on this committee, they care so much. Please. And make no mistake, I'm under no illusions that they care about what happened. I'm simply using them as a vehicle. I think I've been pretty clear that I don't trust any of these people. And for the first time in my adult life, I'm probably not even gonna vote. I mean, what else can you do, right? What else can you do to show these people that enough is enough? If other people want to vote party line and give out rubber stamped votes, cool. I'm not taking part in that. This country is in a bad way. And the more bullshit divisive politics that get thrown at us, the worse it's going to get. An email from the younger Wieden to Epstein is included in the voluminous files released by the Justice Department. Jeffrey, I wanted to thank you for taking time to meet me. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation and hope my passion and dedication for my business came through in the meeting. Adam wrote on April 28, 2016, I intensely appreciate like minded individuals and would very much look forward to having you join us at the fund. Oh, well, isn't that nice? Way to go, Mr. Adam Wyden, Daddy's little boy. And this is the kind of. I mean, if you want to be taken seriously, why don't you try being serious? And if Senator Wyden wants people to take him serious, then he has to make sure that he is going after everybody, even if that includes his son. I know that's crazy to say, but hey, here we are. And look, I'm not saying that Adam Wyden did anything wrong. Maybe he just had associations with Epstein and maybe he was just trying to get his money. Cool. Say that doesn't make it any less reprehensible. Not in my opinion. Especially because of the timing. Like I've told you, the timeline matters. It matters a lot. And if you're trying to get money from him after he's already been convicted, then you, sir, are a scumbag. And I don't care what letter is next to your stupid name. Ron Wyden, who is investigating Epstein's finances and claimed that he doesn't talk to his children about their businesses, brushed aside Bessense charge, saying, let's be clear here. Nobody's interested in the rambling of a capo in the most corrupt regime in American history. We want to get some facts about this deal. That's what we're here for. And that kind of dismissive is unacceptable, buddy. Your son is in those files. Meanwhile, you're pushing to get the financial trail. You want the money trail. What if it leads to your son? Can we trust you now? Look, I know that there's people out there that are, you know, Democrats that are like, yeah, we can trust him. He's a trustworthy dude. What are you talking about? And that's great. If you want to trust him, cool. Me, personally? Never going to happen. We would like to hear what Adam Wyden and Jeffrey Epstein talked about. Besant replied. Did your son and Jeffrey Epstein talk about pole dancing as he begged him for money? And I don't care what side of the aisle you're on. That was actually a pretty funny snapback by Bassen, especially considering that Ron Wyden's son and the company that they, you know, he has, is a gigantic investor in Rick's Cabaret. The exchange was one of many spiky moments in Bessant's testimony, including when Senator Thom Tillis and asked the Treasury Secretary about a report that he threatened to punch Federal Housing Agency boss Bill Pulte in the fucking face at a private dinner with Trump officials. Yeah, you know Bill Pulte, the construction dude who's now the head of dni? That same guy. Got it? No, sir, Besant replied. I actually said I was going to kick his ass. I'm going to kick his ass. What are you guys, 15? What is this, high school? Oh, I'm gonna beat his ass. No, you're not. You're not gonna do anything of the sort. You're gonna talk some shit and then you're gonna run to Trump and try and get him to fire somebody or protect you. All this tough guy bravado is hilarious, especially considering that they're getting absolutely dog walked by Iran in these negotiations. The whole entire tough guy thing. The whole facade is completely worn away. Enough is enough already. The secretary went on to downplay the argument, saying it happened last summer and that many teams have fights in the locker room and then go out and win for the team. Well, then there's other teams like the jets back in the day where the starting quarterback Geno Smith gets punched in the face by a backup, gets his jaw broken, and then he ends up getting traded, meaning Geno Smith. So there's that side of the coin too. And it's always very obvious what politicians don't actually follow sports or know about sports from the commentary that you hear them make. Like, bro, just stick to what you know. Stop it. Besson added that he called Pulte Tuesday to congratulate him after he was appointed acting Director of the National Intelligence and he looked forward to working with Pulte on Iran and other issues. Oh yeah, go and capitulate to Iran some more after you started a war, you bunch of morons. The treasury secretary also held his own when Senator Elizabeth Warren pushed him about President Trump's stock trades. Accounts tied to Trump executed thousands of transactions in 2026 worth more than 220 million in volume, according to the president's financial disclosure reports. But don't worry folks, he's not getting a salary. It's all good. There's no market manipulation occurring. Like what are we even doing here? And the amount of people that are just going along with it. Bro, I hope you enjoy that. Cup Chair pointing out to Bent that the two of them agree that it is a conflict of interest for members of Congress to trade stocks, Warren asked, do you also agree that it's a conflict of interest for President Trump to trade stocks? Besant brushed off the question, telling Warren, president Trump is not sitting in the Oval Office engaging in a high frequency training strategy. Clearly he had an outside manager who was doing that problem who's manipulating the markets. I mean, let's be very clear, that's what's happening. Oh, the war is going to be over. The war's back on the straits going to be opened. Enough is enough. It's obvious what's going on. All these market swings, they're looting the corpse and while the rest of us are facing recession and maybe worse, these people are putting money in their pockets hand over fist. Besent then fired his own shot at Warren, suggesting Congress got get their House in order before you move on to the administration. Well, that's true, but it's Congress's job to provide oversight. So yeah, they should be worried about what the president's doing. That's kind of like, you know, their job. How about we get the White House in order at the same time? Warren said, before continuing her line of questioning. Please lead by example. Bessant insisted, to which Warren shot back. I would like to see the president lead by example. Oh, he is. Have you seen all the foot soldiers that have taken the cue? It's a hoax, it's fake. The survivors are liars, and Donald Trump is just once again, wrongly maligned. But for me, the biggest takeaway here is that both sides are shoulder deep in this, and that's why they just keep blaming each other instead of ever doing anything about it. And look, Senator Wyden has been talking a big game for quite some time now, so I think it's long past the point where he either puts up or shuts up. Put together a bill, put together some kind of legislation, and let's see the financial records of Jeffrey Epstein. Because until then, your words are just wind. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
Date: June 4, 2026
Host: Bobby Capucci
In this episode, Bobby Capucci analyzes the fireworks that erupted during Treasury Secretary Scott Bessant’s testimony before the Senate Finance Committee on June 3, 2026. The hearing, intended to address the ongoing investigation into Jeffrey Epstein’s finances, quickly devolved into a heated exchange focused on hypocrisy, political blame-shifting, and personal attacks—particularly involving Senator Ron Wyden and his son’s alleged Epstein connections. Capucci critiques both major parties, arguing that bipartisan bickering and performative outrage have derailed any real efforts for accountability in the Epstein saga.
“Jeffrey, I wanted to thank you for taking time to meet me. I thoroughly enjoyed our conversation ... would very much look forward to having you join us at the fund.” — Adam Wyden to Jeffrey Epstein (07:19)
“For me, the biggest takeaway here is that both sides are shoulder deep in this, and that’s why they just keep blaming each other instead of ever doing anything about it.” (19:55)
“For the first time in my adult life, I’m probably not even gonna vote.” (06:41)
“Put together some kind of legislation, and let’s see the financial records of Jeffrey Epstein. Because until then, your words are just wind.” (20:38)
On bipartisan blame:
“If Senator Wyden wants to be taken seriously, then he has to clean up his own house, literally and figuratively. And as far as Bessant goes, well, what’s the big deal? I thought Epstein was a hoax ... So what’s the big deal?” — Capucci (00:42)
On Congressional hypocrisy:
“They all want to talk a big game, but where were they when Virginia was asking for help? Where were they when Maria was telling her story? That’s right. Nowhere to be found or trying to lump everybody together with the Q anon weirdos.” — Capucci (04:42)
On Adam Wyden’s ties:
“If you’re trying to get money from him after he’s already been convicted, then you, sir, are a scumbag. And I don’t care what letter is next to your stupid name.” — Capucci (08:04)
On hearing antics:
“What are you guys, 15? What is this, high school? Oh, I’m gonna beat his ass. No, you’re not. You’re not gonna do anything of the sort.” — Capucci (11:39)
On Congress’s responsibility:
“It’s Congress’s job to provide oversight. So yeah, they should be worried about what the president’s doing.” — Capucci (15:42)
On enduring government inaction:
“Because until then, your words are just wind.” — Capucci (20:38)
Capucci’s delivery is blunt, sardonic, and fiercely independent. He refuses to align with any political side, instead focusing on the lack of accountability and constant deflection by both Democrats and Republicans. The episode is dense with scathing commentary, memorable quips, and a sense of disillusionment with America’s leadership’s handling of the Epstein case. For newcomers, Capucci provides both context and a call for real answers, not just performative hearings or finger-pointing.
For more information and detailed episode links, check the description box or visit the podcast’s homepage.