Adriana Ross FBI 302 Raises Questions on Epstein’s Role in Trump–Melania Introduction (Part 2) (4/14/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Adriana Ross FBI 302 Raises Questions on Epstein’s Role in Trump–Melania Introduction (Part 2)

Host: Bobby Capucci

Date: April 14, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, host Bobby Capucci continues to dissect the recently surfaced FBI 302 report summarizing the interview with Adriana Ross, a key figure and former assistant in Jeffrey Epstein’s criminal enterprise. The episode zeroes in on Ross’s account of the minutiae of life in Epstein's employ: manipulation of staff, management of the underage massage trafficking, and disturbing operational details. The episode also raises new questions about potential links between Epstein’s network and the origin story of Donald and Melania Trump, signaling deeper, possibly concealed social connections.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Adriana Ross’s Duties and Epstein’s Expectations

• Ross was hired under the pretense of learning about finance, but her actual job soon turned to arranging massages and managing young women’s appointments.

• Epstein's Control: Epstein was particular about how his assistants handled appointment calls, notably upset when his name was used openly ([00:35–01:41]).

• Ross was tasked with purchasing personal items for Epstein (eye cream), preparing for daily massages, and running errands, sometimes demeaning.

  Quote:
  “Epstein became upset when she used his name when confirming massage appointments. Epstein told her never to use his name when calling people on the calls.” — Host, [01:01]

2. Recruitment & Handling of the “Massage” Girls

• Ross and another “redacted” assistant created call lists and routinely invited young women—frequently underage—to Epstein’s Palm Beach residence ([01:41–03:37]).

• Many girls needed to be called multiple times, sometimes through inappropriate channels (such as their family home).

• The girls entered discreetly, received nominal hospitality, and were directed upstairs to the massage room, which adjoined Epstein’s bedroom.

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  “Girls had mentioned to Redacted that they could not come because they had school. The girls would come in from the rear of the house near the kitchen. Redacted offered them water.” — Host, [02:23]

3. Payment and Logistics of the Abuse

• Epstein paid the girls (approx. $200/session) from large amounts of cash at hand.
• Sometimes Ross herself or others completed the payments ([03:39]).
• The frequency: massages occurred up to twice daily, every day. The services were sourced from networks associated with “ideal models” and other organizations.

4. Awareness and Normalization

• Ross described the normalization of having young women around older men, referencing the modeling industry’s environment and admitting, in retrospect, she should have realized the participants’ possible underage status ([04:12–04:33]).

• A sense of coercion and manipulation pervaded the assistants’ experience.

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  “Thinking back on it, Redacted felt that she should have had the impression that they were underage. She was used to young women being around older men in the modeling industry.” — Host, [04:23]

5. Photographic Evidence and Management of Records

• Ross recounted large numbers of nude photos of girls at Epstein’s properties, stored in binders kept in Ghislaine Maxwell’s house ([05:10–05:38]).
• She performed other menial and, at times, disturbing assignments (buying sex toys, managing lists of “massage” girls).
• Ross also handled logistics in various locations: New York, Palm Beach, the Virgin Islands, and New Mexico.

6. Experiences on Epstein’s Private Properties

• Ross traveled with Epstein and, on occasion, was present for visits to properties such as the Virgin Islands and Zorro Ranch in New Mexico—describing the daily “to-do” lists, facials, and interactions with high-profile guests (David Copperfield, Alan Dershowitz) ([07:13–08:36]).

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  “Alan Dershowitz received a massage from Redacted. ... These massages were different than the massages the girls gave. Redacted did not think the girls were professional masseuses.” — Host, [08:18–08:57]

7. Operations, Surveillance, and Signs of Investigation

• Ross was told by Epstein that they were under investigation, allegedly related to visas—a lie she realized later ([12:10–12:44]).
• She described technology and record-keeping: Citrix-based systems, secretive directories, and efforts to destroy or hide material during law enforcement scrutiny.

8. The Exit: Fear, Coercion, and Aftermath

• Ross eventually resigned after being overwhelmed by Epstein’s manipulations and a growing sense “something was weird” ([09:39–13:23]).

• She felt compelled to stay in touch because of property entanglements (a car gifted by Epstein), and remained fearful of surveillance (random calls, feeling followed) after leaving ([13:41–14:41]).

• Epstein allegedly monitored staff emails and hid his digital tracks, despite claiming to have no email.

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  “When she left Epstein's employment, she felt fearful that someone was following her.” — Host, [14:41]

9. Connections to Broader Circles

• Among various names and social meetings, Ross references helping with introductions, scouting girls for agencies run by Jean Luc Brunel, and professional interactions with figures like Larry Summers ([09:01–09:27]).
• Episode alludes to possible implications regarding Melania Trump’s early relationship with Epstein’s circle—details to be further explored in follow-up episodes.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Epstein told Redacted to give the girls a hairband.” — Host, [02:38]
• “There were also nude photographs in the gym in the New York house in Palm Beach.” — Host, [05:14]
• “Epstein promised redacted a car. Redacted told him to cancel, giving her the car. Epstein gave Redacted a car which she kept and it stayed in her name.” — Host, [13:25]
• “Epstein said that porn websites and have the best poses for models.” — Host, [14:41]
• “Not all the details were covered during this interview. Redacted agreed to meet at another date. Oh boy.” — Host, [15:21]
• “So I'll let you marinate with that for a little while, and then, of course, we'll have an episode later on breaking down what I think it all means and what it could mean for Melania Trump.” — Host, [15:29]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:35: Introduction of Ross’s 302 and overview of her duties.
• 01:41: Discussions on organizing and confirming massage appointments.
• 02:38: Details of the massage room setup, payment handling.
• 03:39: Recruiting girls from Miami.
• 05:10: Discussion of nude photographs and collection/storage.
• 07:13: Ross’s purchases and descriptions of daily operations at different Epstein residences.
• 08:18: On Alan Dershowitz and high-profile guests.
• 09:39: Ross’s resignation and growing suspicions.
• 12:10: Investigation fears and data destruction.
• 13:41: Leaving Epstein’s employment while entangled by “gifts.”
• 14:41: Experiences of post-employment fear, surveillance, and digital secrecy.
• 15:29: Host notes importance of the revelations for broader figures (incl. Melania Trump).

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Overall Tone

The episode maintains a methodical, detail-centric, and relentless investigative tone, reflecting the host’s determined approach to unpacking the layers of Epstein’s criminal enterprise. Capucci balances compassion for witnesses/victims and a skeptical, unsparing attitude toward the elites implicated.

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Summary

This episode provides a granular inside look at how Epstein’s operations functioned on a day-to-day basis, according to former assistant Adriana Ross. It exposes an orchestrated system of manipulation, abuse, and financial control, while hinting at links between Epstein’s world and major public figures—including possible implications for the Trump-Melania origin story. The host promises a deeper breakdown of the connections in future episodes, urging listeners to consider the profound breadth and depth of the Epstein network.

Transcript

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What's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick

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right back up where he left off

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with adriana Ross and her 302 with the FBI. Redacted was someone Epstein commented on. Epstein commented on redacted's SAT score. Redacted massaged Epstein and hung out at the Palm beach house, then went to New York. Epstein helped get Redacted an internship. Redacted was told how to make calls and told what to say when Redacted called to confirm appointments. She said this is redacted calling on behalf of Jeffrey Epstein calling to confirm the massage appointment. Epstein was upset when she used his name when confirming massage appointments. Epstein told her never to use his name when calling people on the calls. Redacted discussed what time that they would come. Epstein pushed her to call and confirm appointments. Redacted had to call multiple times to confirm appointments. Redacted did not remember ever calling men to confirm massage appointments. Epstein wanted Redacted to put eye cream on him. Epstein became upset with her if she missed a day. If Redacted missed a phone call for a massage appointment, Epstein became very upset and left her a nasty voicemail. Epstein raised his voice to redacted. Redacted thought that Epstein was originally going to teach her about finance. Epstein sent her to one or two business meetings, but then was different after she started working for him. Epstein became stressed with her asking her do you want to work? When referring to her calling girls. Redacted often called and asked girls about another girl.

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Redacted asked her to do this.

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Redacted recalled calling red redacted and asked her to bring another girl. Redacted called Redacted and asked her to bring another girl.

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Redacted was upset with Redacted because Redacted

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called Redacted's home where her parents live. Girls had mentioned to Redacted that they could not come because they had school. The girls would come in from the rear of the house near the kitchen. Redacted offered them water.

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Redacted told them to go upstairs.

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The massage room was attached to his master bedroom. When with sauna, steam room and closet with massage table inside the closet. Redacted may have put a towel on the table. Epstein told Redacted to give the girls a hairband. Redacted was present one time when a girl massaged Epstein. Redacted massage Epstein in Palm Beach. Redacted left during most massages going about her tasks around the house. The massages took approximately an hour. Sometimes Epstein called downstairs and sometimes during the massage he would call other people. Redacted knew the massage was done when the girl would come downstairs. Epstein paid the girls. He always had a huge amount of money in his bag. He paid the girls approximately $200. Redacted and redacted typically stayed a bit longer after the massage. If a girl brought another girl, one would go upstairs while the other who brought the girl would hung out downstairs.

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Redacted brought girls.

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Epstein may have asked Redacted to pay the girls. Forum. Redacted was instructed to bring girls from Miami to Palm Beach. These girls were associated with ideal models. Redacted talked about a time where one girl was sitting on the couch visibly upset. And Epstein had a friend who was a doctor there who told them that the girl did not feel well. Epstein had a car service 10 take the girl home. Palm beach massages happen twice a day, every day.

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Redacted typed up a list of girls

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to call in Palm beach and printed a few copies.

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Redacted threw these away.

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The list was specific to massages. Redacted recalled a girl calling and talking about college. The girls were young women.

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Redacted did not know their exact age.

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Thinking back on it, Redacted felt that she should have had the impression that that they were underage. She was used to young women being around older men in the modeling industry.

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Redacted recalled, Redacted and redacted traveling on

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Epstein's plane from New York to Palm Beach. Redacted recalled other girls names that were at Epstein's house, including Redacted Redacted, Redacted

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Redacted, Redacted and redacted. There were more girls, but Redacted couldn't

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recall all of their names. The girls were students, not models. Some may have been in a horseback riding club. The girls asked for assistance to go to college. Redacted may have had a personal relationship in the past with Epstein, but redacted had not heard anything. Redacted assumed because Epstein was always with the girl.

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Redacted took a lot of photographs.

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Redacted took photographs of Redacted in the Virgin Islands. Epstein had told Redacted that it was okay to undress. There were a lot of nude photographs in Epstein's home. There were also nude photographs in the gym in the New York house in Palm Beach. Redacted was in the living room and started stripping when Redacted started taking photographs. Redacted kept the photographs and binders in Maxwell's house.

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Redacted felt that Redacted took advantage of

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her because she had redacted do nasty tasks and had her constantly running.

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Redacted Fellow felt that Redacted made her

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do the heavy lifting. Redacted and Redacted were friendly with each

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other, but Redacted did not like how Redacted treated her.

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When Redacted called to confirm appointments, she sometimes left a voicemail with her cell number for a call back. Redacted could not remember if she and Redacted talked about what happened with massages or if Redacted made comments about the girls in the Virgin Islands. They would travel to the island by boat, had to give Epstein massages. A girl named Redacted would come to the island to give Epstein massages. In the morning. Redacted would go in his office. There were different beach huts on the island. Epstein would take a golf cart around the island. Epstein worked out a lot on the island. When they were on the island, it was more leisure time. There was a room by the kitchen

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where they all watched tv.

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Some of the Redacted tasks included researching things online and and making online purchases. There was a house manager who would ask people about allergies and they would have to fill out a card. Other tasks Redacted was responsible for were buying furniture. Redacted was also instructed to buy sex toys from a sex shop in New York, but could not recall who had told her to buy them.

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Redacted thought the sex toys she had

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to buy were vibrators. Redacted recalled having to go to some building with an upstairs in Palm Beach.

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Redacted ordered books for a girl.

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The books were not sent in time and Epstein was upset with Redacted. Redacted thought the books may have been for Redacted. Redacted stayed more in the house. David Copperfield was at the house one time and Redacted may have met him. Redacted was one of the girls who came for massages.

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Redacted told Redacted to get Redacted a tutorial.

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Epstein wanted to give Redacted more. Redacted may have bought a Picture of her artwork.

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Redacted and Redacted brought girls. Redacted purchased a lot of gifts for Redacted's baby. Redacted thought Redacted was older, but was

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unsure of how old Redacted was. When Redacted traveled with Epstein to New Mexico. It was a long drive to the house.

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It was a big house with a

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giant with a guest house. Redacted felt that she was likely doing the to do list from New York. Redacted had to give Epstein facials. There was a horseback riding with a disclaimer. Redacted recall that they barely traveled to New Mexico. They were there maybe twice.

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Redacted was paid every two weeks.

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Her starting salary was 36,000 and eventually was paid approximately 40,000 to 41,000. The individuals who traveled with Epstein, including Redacted and Redacted were given massages. Alan Dershowitz received a massage from Redacted.

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She had a tattoo.

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Redacted and Redacted gave massages. Redacted understood that these massages to be more professional massages. These massages were different than the massages the girls gave. Redacted did not think the girls were professional masseuses. Was Epstein's girlfriend. Redacted heard them exchange I love you. Redacted was the model.

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Redacted was associated with and or traveled

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under the impression that Epstein was a co owner. Redacted traveled with Epstein and did not model. Redacted slept in the bedroom with Epstein. Went back to modeling when she needed to renew her visa. Redacted and redacted had an intimate relationship. Redacted talked about a time where Larry Summers was sitting in the waiting room and having a lengthy meeting with Epstein.

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Redacted saw Redacted who looked like she

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came from an event and told her that she had been looking for girls and Epstein's relationship as a strong love relationship.

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Redacted stated there was no alcohol around

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unless a guest wanted it. Redacted resigned from working for Epstein. Redacted did not want to be around Epstein anymore. Redacted felt that there was something weird going on with the complete situation.

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It took Redacted a while to make

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the decision to quit. Redacted stated that they used Citrix based system. Leslie Groff put messages in the system. These were messages that were on the computer in New York. They eventually stopped using the system. There were small directory books. Phone books were outdated. There were printouts of messages.

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In approximately October of 2005, redacted redacted and Redacted and Epstein flew to Miami. Redacted along with her dog. She traveled with went to Redacted's house. Epstein went with Redacted and Redacted and Redacted later met up with them at Soho House in Miami Beach.

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Redacted dropped off Redacted and was told

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to go to Palm beach to meet with someone. Epstein told Redacted that something was stolen and Redacted had to travel to give computers to be examined. The person Redacted met with was alone.

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This happened the day before Redacted's birthday. Epstein and Redacted told Redacted to take

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the books which were personal contact phone books. The black ones were Maxwell's and the colorful ones were were Epstein's. Redacted could not remember if she took both. There were a lot of books by each phone. There were copy pads that people would put messages on and tear out to give to Epstein. There were also white pads with Epstein and Maxwell's names throughout the houses. Janus Banasic helped gather the items together. There was a computer that redacted and Redacted used Epstein's computer and potentially Maxwell's

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computer that that they collected.

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Redacted turned these items over to a person that seemed to be a law enforcement type of person. She took an inventory of the things that she gave to this individual who

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she believed to be Detective Black. There was a specific computer that Redacted

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and Redacted used in Palm Beach. Redacted recalled the girl saying something about social profiles.

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Redacted also asked Redacted to bring books

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from the Virgin Islands and and meet her in Maxwell's office.

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Redacted told Redacted to shred an updated

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list of the name of girls. Redacted had a notebook with the investigative agency sticker on it. Epstein told Redacted that there was an investigation and that it had something to do with visas. Epstein told Redacted that they were asking about her parents. Epstein was surprised with a visit from her parents. Redacted knew that Epstein was lying a about how her parents got her visas. Redacted recalled the time when she was on the island And Epstein told her, do you have the camera? They're watching me. Redacted did not recall how she learned about the actual reason for the initial investigation. Epstein's counsel, Darren Endyke called her into his office and told her not to talk to law enforcement. In Approximately October of 2005, redacted resigned to redacted.

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Redacted took it as a joke.

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Redacted had called her about an issue with Maxwell.

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Redacted cried and told her that she

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did not want to be there. Redacted gave notice but still worked for Epstein until early of 2006. Epstein promised redacted a car. Redacted told him to cancel, giving her the car. Epstein gave Redacted a car which she kept and it stayed in her name.

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Redacted felt that she had to stay

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in contact with Epstein because because the car was in his name and was under his Insurance. In early 2008, contacted either Groff or someone else and asked to return the car. Redacted and her husband drove to Palm beach to return the car.

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After Redacted left, Redacted approached her at

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a Club Monaco and asked her if she wanted to come to the Virgin Islands for work. Redacted told her no. Attorneys reached out to Redacted asking questions. There was a woman in New York Redacted that reached out and told her that her attorney was Bryce Lyons. Redacted called the office asking if she could speak to Lions. Redacted thought FBI agents might want to talk with her. Redacted spoke with an FBI agent and she told the agent to call her attorney. Redacted later hired her own attorney. Redacted saw Epstein looking at pornography on the computer that she and the others used. Epstein said that porn websites and have the best poses for models. Epstein said that he did not have an email address, but he did. Email addresses that Epstein used were j epsteinahoo.com and je epsteinahoo.com redacted saw an email of pictures of girls that Epstein said were ugly.

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Redacted told Redacted to send photographs of

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girls to Jean Luc Brunel for the purpose of casting scouting for his agency. Epstein did not carry a cell phone. Epstein would take one of their cell phones and dial who he wanted. Redacted has received random calls and texts from New York numbers. When she left Epstein's employment, she felt fearful that someone was following her. Not all the details were covered during this interview. Redacted agreed to meet at another date. Oh boy.

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That is quite the 302.

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So I'll let you Marinate with that for a little while, and then, of course, we'll have an episode later on breaking down what I think it all means and what it could mean for Melania Trump. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.

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