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Attorney's Representing Over 50 Epstein Survivors Say The DOJ Is Ignoring Them
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Attorneys representing roughly 50 survivors of Jeffrey Epstein—including high-profile lawyers like Gloria Allred, Lisa Bloom, and Spencer Kuvin—have publicly stated that the DOJ has not contacted them regarding any ongoing investigations or shared any...
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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of of the Epstein Chronicles. Imagine this. The Department of Justice standing at a crossroads with one path leading towards truth and the other towards convenience. If they were serious about justice in the Epstein and Maxwell crimes, they wouldn't have sat Ghislaine Maxwell down for a sanitized, fireside, friendly deposition where the questions were as hollow as the answers. Instead, they would have turned the microphones toward the survivors and the women and girls who were preyed upon, silenced and abandoned by the very institutions sworn to protect them. Now, these survivors aren't just footnotes in some court record. They're the beating heart of this whole entire story. The living proof of what was allowed to happen in plain sight. Yet once again, their pain was pushed aside, their voices drowned out by the hum of deal making and procedural pageantry. That choice, the choice to elevate the comfort of the accused over the cries of the violated, reveals a justice system more concerned with appearances than with accountability. Survivors shouldn't have to fight for scraps or recognition while the perpetrators of their abuse are granted the dignity of negotiation. Justice doesn't come from whispered conversations behind closed doors. It comes from placing the truth front and center, no matter how uncomfortable it makes those in power. Now, the DOJ had a chance to show the world that no one is above the law, that the survivors mattered more than the criminals who destroyed them. Instead, they showed us what many already that the system bends for the powerful, even when the powerful are monsters. The truth is, the survivors have already been silenced for years by manipulation and by institutions that look the other way every time they were dismissed, ignored, or disbelieved. Epstein and Maxwell grew stronger. And when the moment finally came for accountability, what did the DOJ do? They sat across from Maxwell like she was some kind of business partner, negotiating terms instead of exposing crimes. They gave her legitimacy when she deserved nothing but condemnation. That image, a convicted trafficker being treated as though her cooperation was more valuable than the testimony of survivors, sends a chilling message to every victim who still wonders if speaking up is worth the cost. It tells them the system doesn't really want you. It wants to manage you. It wants your silence when it's inconvenient, and your pain only when it's marketable. And that's the sickness at the core of all of this. Because true justice is inconvenient. It's not polite, and it's not negotiated over conference tables. True justice forces us to face the ugliest parts of who we are and what we've allowed. It demands that we look the survivors in the eye, hear their stories without flinching, and honor their courage by refusing to let their abusers dictate the terms of accountability. And so we're left here, once again, in the familiar shadow of betrayal. Survivors pushed to the background, the accused treated with deference, and the DoJ congratulating itself for going through the motions. But the motions are not enough. Not now, not ever. Because what hangs in the balance isn't just the legacy of Epstein and Maxwell. It's the credibility of the very institutions that. That claim to protect us. If the Department of Justice cannot or will not center the survivors, then it's failing at its most basic duty to pursue justice without fear or favor. Until that changes, all we're left with is theater masquerading as accountability, while the real voices, the voices of the broken, the silenced, the forgotten, are forced to keep screaming into the void. Today's article is from the Guardian, and the headline, no Outreach to Epstein Victims. Despite Trump's vow to investigate. Lawyers say this article was authored by Victoria B. Kempis. For more than six months, Donald Trump and his Justice Department have insisted they would get to the bottom of Jeffrey Epstein's crimes. But nine attorneys who have represented approximately 50 Epstein survivors told the Guardian they have not been recently contacted by the Justice Department. Now, if you were really doing an investigation, right, wouldn't you be contacting the people that are making the claims? We all know no victim, no crime, right? So it's very important, obviously, to speak with the victims who. Who are claiming that they were wronged. But instead we have a fireside chat with Ghis Maxwell. For what purpose? Now look, I'm all ears if you have some good reasons as to why anyone should be sitting down with Gain Maxwell, never mind the Deputy Attorney General. There is literally no logical explanation for it. Unless, of course, you're looking at it through the lens of a cover up, then, yeah, it looks like a logical thing to do. Right? Keep Ghislaine Maxwell happy, make sure she's not making any waves and tell her, just bide your time. When my term's up, I'm a lame duck and I'll give you that pardon. Now, look, I don't know if that's a conversation that's been had, but it's the optics, right? And that's all we have to go off of. And that's because, once again, we're not getting any transparency from the administration. The revelation cast out on the effort by the Trump administration to fully investigate Epstein's crimes and activities and reveal everything that the government knows about him. It comes as Trump faces intense political pressure, including from his own base over his social ties to Epstein, who was famed for courting rich and powerful figures into his circle. There has still been no outreach from the DOJ or members of Congress to me state seeking to interview my clients, said top civil attorney Gloria Allred, who has represented 27 Epstein survivors. And I saw some talk on social media from people talking about Gloria Allred. And look, I've been very public with how I feel about Gloria Allred and her daughter, Lisa Bloom. I do not like them. But does that mean that the people who are claiming that they were abused are lying? I mean, come on, what kind of ridiculous nonsense is that? You have to look at each story for what it is and take the merits of that story for what they are. Each one of these claims is unique. This isn't just a gigantic monolith where one claim means everyone's telling the truth, or one claim means everyone's lying. So like I've told you folks from the very beginning, don't trust this one, don't trust that one. Follow the evidence wherever the evidence goes. Lisa Bloom, who has represented 11 Epstein survivors, said, no, I haven't heard anything. As usual, the survivors are being ignored in the political battle. And that's really what it comes down to. That's what this is now. It's a political football, and it's getting kicked back and forth. Meanwhile, nothing's being accomplished, right? No movement, no real investigations. We have names out there already, and I'm not talking about people that are just accused of enabling. What about the people that have been accused of abuse itself? We're talking about Glenn Dubin, we're talking about Les Wexner, we're talking about George Mitchell, we're talking about Bill Richardson, we're talking about Marvin Minsky. I mean, come on, folks. Everybody talks about they want a list, they want this, they want that, they want the other thing. But the names that are already out there, Nobody has any desire to do anything about that. So is it that you want names or. Or is it that you want names of people that you think you can use this as a political cudgel against? And obviously, there's a whole lot of that going on right now. And the more that this is politicized, the less it humanizes the people who are affected the most. Spencer Kuvan, the chief legal officer of Goldlaw, similarly said there had not been outreach by law enforcement officials or Congress. The House Oversight Committee has issued subpoenas regarding Epstein and. And met with some victims. Earlier this week, the panel did release a tranche of documents the Justice Department provided pursuant a subpoena, but virtually none contained new information. And that's certainly a roadblock that we have faced time and time again. Recycled information being dropped, and then them telling us that it's new. I have heard nothing from the doj, and they have provided me no updates to give to my clients. I have even sent letters to the committee chair volunteering to speak with them about the original investigation and litigation. This letter was completely ignored. Kuvan said it's appalling that the federal government is again failing to keep the victims at the center of this investigation. Instead, it appears that all the government is interested in is attempting to whitewash the prior investigation. And that's really what it comes down to. To me, they know how embarrassing this is all going to be, and they just can't have it. So they're going to fight tooth and nail to make sure you never know what really happened. And if that doesn't enrage you, I don't know what will. Jennifer Freeman, special counsel at Marsh Law Firm, who represents the Epstein survivor, Maria Farmer, in her suit against the federal government, condemned this apparent lack of outreach, noting the lengthy talk between the deputy Attorney General, Todd Blanch, and the convicted sex trafficker, Ghislaine Maxwell. It's atrocious that the DOJ ignored or dismissed the survivors of Epstein and Maxwell for decades and that recently the second in command spent two days coddling a known sex abuser, Glenn Maxwell, and asking her soft powder puff questions instead of conducting a true and proper investigation, freeman said. And look, there's no doubt about that. I don't know how you could look at those transcripts, read through them and not come away thinking that, that the fix is in. And I said it from the start with gain Maxwell and the doj, they're doing themselves a disservice by involving her in any capacity. And once we got a look at those transcripts, that was certainly the case. Not only has the DOJ refused to engage survivors, but they obstructed routine and valid requests for information. In January of 2025, in response to a basic Freedom of Information act request, the government informed us that they would respond by November 2027, nearly three years later. That's abysmal and completely unacceptable. Well, yeah, it sure is. I mean, can you imagine the government trying to kick the can down the road like this time and time again? Anything they can do to run out the clock. Attorney Jack Scarola said. My last contact with the DOJ was during the Maxwell trial while I was representing Carolyn Andriano in her capacity as a principal DOJ witness. Andriano died of a drug overdose in May of 2023. Another attorney simply said, Not a word from the DOJ. The lack of outreach flies in the face of numerous public commitments by Trump and others in his administration to fully and transparently investigate Epstein. This Department of Justice is following through on President Trump's commitment to transparency and lifting the veil on disgusting actions of Jeffrey Epstein and his co conspirators. The US Attorney General, Pamela Bondi said in February as it released some of the Epstein documents. The first phase of files released today sheds light on Epstein's extensive network and and begins to provide the public with long overdue accountability. And then that just all stops, right? And we're supposed to accept the narrative that they give us? Stop it. Would you accept it if it was the Biden administration pumping that to you? You know you wouldn't. So demand the same ass accountability here.
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As it turned out, this February dissemination of files set the stage for a controversy that continues to royal Trump's presidency. These Epstein documents largely contained information that had already been in the public domain. The disclosure did not include purported Epstein client list that has long proved the white whale of right wing conspiracy theorists who believe it would show that Epstein plotted with high profile individuals to traffic teen girls. Now think about that for a minute. What kind of moron actually believes that? Do you really think that there's some list here that they kept about their operation and all the people involved? If you were really serious about finding that out, you'd be demanding bank transfers, you'd be demanding all the information from the npa. But instead we just continue to go around circles here like a dog chasing its tail. Now that might be fun for some people, hint hint doj. But for the rest of us, it's time consuming, it's disgusting, and it needs to end. In July, Bondi announced that her department and the FBI would not be releasing more files and claimed that a client list did not exist. Stoking still more uproar. Then came the reporting that Bondi informed Trump that his Name had appeared multiple times in the Epstein files, dealing yet another political blow to the US President. None of that's new. We all knew that he was one of the John Doe's in the Epstein files. I believe it was John Doe 174. So this is nothing new. Donald Trump knew this too. So the question is, what happened between then and now that changed things that made Donald Trump bash his own base? Has to be something pretty serious, right? Not the kind of mistake that you would expect Donald Trump to make. Say what you will about the guy, but he's a political animal. Guy knows what he's doing, politically speaking. So this is a gigantic gaffe and one of his own making for sure. The Justice Department's apparent damage control efforts were extensive. They requested the release of grand jury transcripts in Epstein's criminal cases as well as Maxwell's proceeding. Legal experts said the grand jury transcripts would contain little revelatory information. The requests were ultimately denied. Well, yeah, they wouldn't give you anything. Just another waste of time. Blanche interviewed Maxwell, who had helped Epstein commit his crimes in late July. Maxwell was then moved to a low security prison camp shortly thereafter, infuriating victims and the rest of the world who has a brain in their head. The Justice Department released transcripts of Maxwell's interview on Aug. 22. But the minutes refused to quell demand for information as Blanche questions didn't seem probing on key issues, especially as it related to Trump or those close to him. Well, that's ridiculous. It should have been about co conspirators, really. Right. It should have been about, you know, Sarah Kellen Vickers. It should have been about Leslie Grof. It should have been about Jean Luc Bernell, all the movers and shakers. That should have been the core of it. But because there's still people out there that were hands on involved that have gotten away with this. So isn't that what the meeting should have been about? Hey, Galain, what about the people working under you? He didn't ask her once about Sarah Kellen Vickers. He didn't ask her once about, you know, Leslie Groff. None of them. Now the name was brought up, but there was no probing, there was no digging for deeper answers. Instead, what we had was a whitewash. But still there was a lack of outreach to victims that appears to stand in contrast with traditional investigatory methods. Attorneys said that engaging with survivors was integral to criminal investigations of sexual offenders and those who commit other serious crimes. Well, yeah, if somebody's saying that there was a crime committed, probably a good idea to talk to them, right? I know, call me crazy, but I think it's a better idea to talk to the people who were actually wronged than to sit down for a fireside chat with their abuser. If law enforcement was seriously investigating some criminal activity, it seems like the first call that they should make is to the victims and or the victim's attorneys, said Eric Fadis, a trial attorney and founder of the Denver firm Varner Faddis, who previously worked as a prosecutor. You're getting information from the source, from someone who was present and has firsthand knowledge and probably has a wealth of information, most of which is likely not public and some of which may not have been disclosed to anyone at all. Yet speaking with survivors rather than limiting inquiries to an accomplice or accomplices helps better fact finding, he said. I mean really, we need to be told that. If you don't know that, I don't know what to tell you. An accomplice can talk about statements that the alleged culprit made to which a victim may not have been privy. But I think the reciprocal is true that a victim can talk about first hand knowledge, whereas sometimes when an accomplice relays information, that information can be colored or biased or conveyed within pure motivations like to help out the accomplices themselves, fatis said. The victims, they likely don't have any incentive to fabricate information to their benefit, at least not in the way that an accomplice who's sitting in a prison cell does. Well, that's true too. Now of course you can talk about financial motivation and there are people out there that try and benefit from like this all the time. I'm not naive, I know that and that's why I say we have to look at each allegation on its own merits. This is not a monolithic type of deal. Lindsey M. Goldbron, a partner at New York City firm Goddard Law, said that a survivor centered approach was key as an attorney for survivors in other high profile cases, proactive trauma informed outreach from law enforcement is critical when survivors and their counsel aren't contacted. It can chill participation and undermine confidence in the process, goldbrum said. I can't speak to the specifics of the Epstein Maxwell investigation, but but as a matter of practice, engagement matters, the Justice Department said no comment in an email when asked about victim outreach. Yeah, they call it a hoax. What do they care? They're not going to investigate a hoax, right? Why should they? Epstein survivors have continued to push for transparency and justice outside the Justice Department. Several survivors on Wednesday voiced support of a bipartisan resolution to release all Epstein files. Survivors have also taken legal action against the US Government for federal law enforcement agency's failure to take action against Epstein 20 years ago. Jennifer Plotkin and Jordan Mersan of Mersaun law, which represents 33 survivors, are pursuing a civil suit over federal law enforcement authorities in action toward allegations against Epstein when survivors started coming forward 20 years ago. Trump's Department of Justice is pushed to dismiss the lawsuit. The FBI refuses to accept accountability and continues to fight the dozens of Epstein victims that we represent. Why is the FBI fighting these women when it acknowledged responsibility to the Larry Nassar victims? Plotkin said. The government says it wants to move on and forward, yet it continues to be adversarial instead of sympathetic and unfortunately I don't see that changing too much. That's just how it goes. They have no desire in true justice because if they did, this whole entire song and dance wouldn't be a song and dance and instead it would be an investigation. But instead, once again, we're left with political theater. Alright folks, that's gonna do it for this one. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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