Bill Gates Tells Congress That Epstein Tried to Blackmail Him (6/11/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Bill Gates Tells Congress That Epstein Tried to Blackmail Him

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: June 11, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this episode, Bobby Capucci dives deep into Bill Gates' recent appearance before Congress, where Gates claims that Jeffrey Epstein attempted to blackmail him by leveraging information about Gates’ marital infidelities. The episode challenges prior governmental assertions—particularly from the FBI and DOJ—that there was “no credible evidence” of Epstein blackmailing anyone. Capucci scrutinizes these conflicting narratives and presents Gates’ testimony as significant proof contradicting the official story, while also highlighting the broader implications for the Epstein investigation and its key players.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Contradiction Between FBI/DOJ & Gates' Testimony

• At the outset ([00:45]), Capucci references a 2025 FBI/DOJ memo stating, “no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals.”
• He immediately frames the new revelation:

  “Fast forward to yesterday and Bill Gates… had something else to say… he was blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein.”
  ([00:49])

• Capucci claims this directly contradicts testimonies from key figures (Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Todd Blanche) who have denied any blackmail activity, suggesting perjury on one side or the other:

  “So either Bill Gates lied and perjured himself, or Bondi, Patel, and Blanche perjured themselves. I mean, both things can't be true, right?”
  ([02:10])

2. What Did Gates Tell Congress?

• Gates admitted that Epstein learned of his marital infidelities and tried to use this information, combined with other lies, to pressure Gates to “re-engage” in their relationship ([03:28]):

  “Epstein used Gates marital infidelities as leverage to keep the billionaire in Epstein’s circle.”

• Gates emphasized he never went to Epstein’s private properties or victimized anyone ([04:15]), asserting that his reason for associating was philanthropy—not personal matters.
• Capucci is critical of Gates’ motives and denials, questioning the credibility of seeking Epstein’s financial help given Gates’ vast wealth:

  “You need to go and seek out Jeffrey Epstein, who's not even a billionaire. My guess is you were seeking him out as a way to bundle your money… hide this money, pay less taxes...”
  ([06:19])

3. Media & Elites Look the Other Way

• The episode critiques high society and the mainstream media for previously ignoring Epstein’s abuses, welcoming him back post-conviction ([Show context, 00:00]).
• Capucci accuses officials and elites of trying to "rewrite history," acting as if they were unaware of Epstein’s crimes despite ample public information ([09:12]):

  “They wrap themselves in the armor of charity. That way, later on down the line, they can use it as an excuse.”

4. The Mechanics of Blackmail and Epstein’s Modus Operandi

• Gates revealed that Epstein “layered on top” lies about Gates’ affairs to pressure him ([05:16]).
• Capucci draws parallels to criminal fixers in pop culture, describing Epstein as “the Wolf from Pulp Fiction, but with finances and reputation laundering.”
  ([10:00])
• The host also explores specifics of the alleged blackmail—Epstein’s threats to expose Gates’ relationship with Mila Antonova, and payments for her educational pursuits, suggesting clear leverage ([11:41]).

5. Congressional Response and Lack of Accountability

• Capucci expresses skepticism about Congress' will to pursue the truth, predicting inaction from Oversight Chairman James Comer:

  “What's James Comer gonna do? My guess, absolutely nothing.”
  ([02:25])

• He criticizes the committee’s effectiveness and its supposed bias:

  “The problem is I don't trust the committee. There's no teeth, there's no enforcement, and they get dog walked time and time again by the DOJ.”
  ([16:30])

• He reflects on the larger cover-up, alluding to the political interests at play and the need for real oversight.

6. Gates’ Version Isn’t the End of the Story

• Capucci acknowledges we have not yet seen the full transcripts of Gates’ appearance ([10:46]):

  “We have to go through those like usual so we can get an HD view of what went on.”

• He advocates for continued scrutiny, including further testimony from figures like Alan Dershowitz and Gates Foundation staff.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• Host (Bobby Capucci) on Contradictory Testimony:

  “So either Bill Gates lied and perjured himself, or Bondi, Patel and Blanche perjured themselves. I mean, both things can't be true, right?”
  [02:10]

• On the Purpose of Congressional Oversight:

  “The whole entire point of this committee, remember, was to try and exonerate Donald Trump. That's what they were trying to do… Has he acted like this with anything else? That should tell you the tell.”
  [16:52]

• On Gates’ Plausibility:

  “You mean to tell me that all he ever talked about with Jeffrey Epstein was charity?... Who believes that? I mean, honestly, who believes that this man has more money than God. You need to go and seek out Jeffrey Epstein, who's not even a billionaire?”
  [06:04–06:19]

• On Epstein’s Role:

  “Epstein was known as the fixer… That was his function. That was his operation.”
  [10:00]

• On Elites and Accountability:

  “They wrap themselves in the armor of charity. That way, later on down the line, they can use it as an excuse. Look, I gave so much money. How could you possibly think I'm capable of this?”
  [09:13]

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Important Timestamps

• 00:45: Introduction—contrast between FBI/DOJ memo and Gates' testimony.
• 02:10: The credibility dilemma—if Gates is truthful, others lied under oath.
• 03:28: Gates’ explicit claim of being blackmailed, as reported by the New York Post.
• 05:16: Gates describes how Epstein tried to use affairs as leverage.
• 09:12: Capucci’s criticism of the way elites use philanthropy to shield themselves.
• 10:00: Analysis of Epstein as a criminal fixer.
• 11:41: Discussion of Epstein’s threats involving Mila Antonova and specific blackmail tactics.
• 16:30: Host critiques congressional oversight as toothless and ineffective.
• 16:52: Reflection on the true motives behind congressional inquiry.
• 17:53: Wrap-up and conclusion.

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Conclusion

Bobby Capucci’s analysis frames Bill Gates’ congressional testimony as a pivotal and potentially damning contradiction of long-standing official narratives regarding Epstein’s operations. The episode sharply critiques both Gates’ plausibility and the larger system of accountability among elites and government officials. Capucci calls for a deeper, unvarnished investigation—skeptical of current oversight mechanisms—while urging listeners to pay close attention to how Congress responds, if at all, to these new revelations.

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Transcript

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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein chronicles. Back in 2025, the FBI, in coordination with the DOJ, released a memo telling us that there was nothing left to investigate when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and that nobody was blackmailed. And this is exactly what it said. This systematic review revealed no incriminating client list. There was no credible evidence found that Epstein blackmailed prominent individuals as part of his actions. We did not uncover evidence that could predicate an investigation against uncharged third parties. Well, fast forward to yesterday and Bill Gates and his congressional appearance, and he had something else to say. And according to him, he was blackmailed by Jeffrey Epstein. So if what Bill Gates is saying is true, then that means that Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, and Todd Blanche have all perjured themselves. And I don't think that's even a debate. Now, if Bill Gates is telling the truth, then Pam Bondi, Cash Patel, Todd Blanche, and anybody else from the FBI or DOJ that has told us that nobody was blackmailed has lied to us. And while all of us know that, there's a lot of people out here that aren't hip to the whole story and they don't know, you know, who's telling the truth and who's not. They start hearing things like, there's nobody that was blackmailed coming from the head of the FBI, and people are going to believe it. And look, we all knew that Cash Patel and Pam Bondi and Todd Blanche were telling us lies back then, but now this is proof. So either Bill Gates lied and perjured himself, or Bondi, Patel and Blanche perjured themselves. I mean, both things can't be true, right? So what's James Comer gonna do? My guess, Absolutely nothing. Today's article is from the New York Post, and the headline, bill Gates Tells Congress Jeffrey Epstein used his affairs as leverage to keep the billionaire close. This article was authored by Josh Christensen and Ali Gos. Microsoft co founder Bill Gates claimed in a Capitol Hill hearing on Wednesday that Jeffrey Epstein used Gates marital infidelities as leverage to keep the billionaire an Epstein circle. Somebody better tell Cash Patel. I mean, if you can find them, maybe check Valhalla or whatever. But somebody might want to tell him. Maybe somebody should tell Pam Bondi that she should be worried about this and not the Dow. Because, folks, it's obvious that there's a cover up underway. And that cover up is being managed by the doj. It's been ordered by the White House, but it's being managed by the doj. And it's rather obvious at this point. And if that's not true and that's not happening, then they're gonna charge Bill Gates with perjury, Right? In an opening statement before the House Oversight Committee, Gates denied all knowledge of the deceased pedophile's criminal conduct, but admitted associating with Epstein to further his global philanthropic goals between 2011 and 2014. And I know I've said it a million times, but you really need Epstein's money. Of all the people in the world gotta get money from Epstein. Sounds like a bunch of junk to me. I never went to his island, his ranch, or his Florida home. I have never victimized anyone. He said while he may have sought to foster a personal relationship, I was never interested in that and never reciprocated. That's not what your wife said. Everything was about business. That's all you guys ever talked about, ever. Just like Howard Lutnick never heard anything or saw anything living next door. How about your ring cameras, buddy? How about your surveillance? Howard Lutnick? Can we see that? Who was coming and going? Who went into Epstein's house? Who left? Oh, that. That's all deleted, right? You don't keep that footage. And Bill Gates is over here talking about it was never reciprocated, the relationship. Maybe you want to tell your ex wife. But Gates also disclosed that Epstein learned of him having been unfaithful in my marriage and sought to use the information about my infidelities in addition to the many lies that he layered on top to pressure me to re engage with him. Well, how did he learn about the affairs, Bill? Could it be that he played the middleman and hooked you up? I. I know that couldn't be possible, right? You would never utilize somebody like Epstein to meet a woman, right, Bill? He was unsuccessful in this effort but it shows some of the ways he tried to leverage his interactions with me to further his agenda. Gates added. So if he did that to Bill Gates, do you really think that nobody else was being blackmailed? And all the people out here that were telling you that that was just overblown, that that never happened, that there's no evidence of it? Well, they look pretty fucking dumb now, don't they? They won't admit it. They'll just move the goalposts. But the truth is right here for anyone who's really willing to look. And the people who refuse to admit what's going on or what was going on, they're telling on themselves. In February, the computer whiz had confessed to employees at the Gates foundation that he engaged in two extramarital affairs with Russian women, at least one of whom appears to have been used by Jeffrey Epstein to attempt to extort money from Gates. Gates also reportedly acknowledged that he had been accused of more than 20 extramarital liaisons during divorce proceedings from his ex wife, Melinda French Gates. So he was obviously a womanizer. Okay, Mr. Pocket Protector himself never got late in high school. We all know that. One of those dudes, a late bloomer, if you will. And once he got a little bit of dough and women started looking at him, it was on. So you mean to tell me that all he ever talked about with Jeffrey Epstein was charity? Because that's. We know that Jeffrey Epstein talked about sex all the time, all day. So Bill Gates can go and try and somebody else. I see now that Epstein sought to build an image of legitimacy around himself, using connections to reputable and. And powerful people to deflect scrutiny and attempt to rehabilitate his reputation. Gates also said in his statement, well, you guys already knew what he was, and you still let him in. You sought him out. All these people are trying to rewrite history like they were just, you know, along for the ride. Like they were all manipulated, like they had no idea that Jeffrey Epstein was already a sexual predator. They think you're stupid. That's really what it comes down to. Either that or you're so deep in your political bunker that you won't care. I was so focused on the possibility of raising funds for Global Health that I allowed that goal to override my better judgment. Who believes that? I mean, honestly, who believes that this man has more money than God. You need to go and seek out Jeffrey Epstein, who's not even a billionaire. My guess is you were seeking him out as a way to bundle your money. How can I hide this money, how can I pay less taxes? Where can I move it? What should I buy? Who should I talk to? Oh, I got the guy. Jeffrey Epstein. Gates wore a strained grin as he entered and exited his interview with the Oversight Committee, pausing before his interview only to say, I hope my testimony is helpful to the important work of the committee to find justice for the victims. Oh, you care so much about them, Bill. Why haven't you ever reached out? Why didn't you go and speak to the FBI after Epstein was arrested? Why didn't you tell somebody that Epstein was blackmailing you? Representative Robert Garcia, the top Democrat on the panel, told reporters during a break in the grilling that Gates comments on Epstein betrayed a theme of blackmail and Epstein using his power of information against others. Well, yeah, that was part of his operation. A compromise operation. Not on everybody, but on people like Gates. Oversight Chairman James Comer, the Gomer, stressed that the committee was not accusing Bill Gates of any wrongdoing. But we're interested in hearing more about the philanthropist relationship with Epstein as well as the financiers, convicted accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell. Well, James Comer wouldn't want to, you know, accuse anybody of anything, not even Epstein. Well, you want to ruin people's reputations. How dare you look at all those allegations in court documents. How dare you look at all those allegations made during depositions under oath. Emails and photos released by the Justice Department, in addition to remarks by Melinda French Gates about Epstein about having contributed to the dissolution of the couple's 27 year marriage, have complicated the image Gates has sought to cultivate as the leader of one of the world's largest private charitable foundations. Well, that's what they do. They wrap themselves in the armor of charity. That way, later on down the line, they can use it as an excuse. Look, I gave so much money. How could you possibly think I'm capable of this? Meanwhile, the money they're giving is a drop in the bucket. Do you know how much money Bill Gates has? Do you really think he needs Jeffrey Epstein's money? Epstein drafted one email salaciously claiming that Gates had asked for the financier's help in order to deal with the consequences of sex with Russian girls, which the philanthropist rep called absolutely absurd and completely false. I believe that he did ask Epstein. Epstein was known as the Fixer. Remember in Pulp Fiction, the wolf? That's Jeffrey Epstein. But with finances and reputation laundering, that's what he did. That was his function. On Wednesday, Gates said he did not contract a sexually transmitted disease as a result of his dalliances and never tried to acquire drugs for that purpose, according to a source familiar with the interview. Now, like usual, I will caution we have not seen the transcripts so we have to go through those like usual so we can get an HD view of what went on.

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Epstein also fumed in emails over Gates dalliances with the two Russian women, bridge player Miller Antonova and former employee at Terra Power, a nuclear power company. The richest man in the world is so cheap, epstein growsed in a 2007 message to Boris Nikolic, one of Gates advisors at his foundation. His former bridge girl and toy lives on a friend's sofa. At one point, Epstein threatened Gates with exposing Antonova affair due to Bill's refusal and joining a prospective philanthropic fund conceived by Epstein and JP Morgan Chase executives, according to the Wall Street Journal. That money was never paid, foundation reps have said. Epstein, however, paid Antonova so she could attend a programming camp as part of her pursuing a career in software development, she told the journal in 2023, one of Epstein's girls he brought over here, come on, can we stop the cap? And he obviously middlemanned it for Bill Gates and then he was using that as leverage and blackmail on Bill Gates. This shit is not that difficult. Nikolic apparently also knew the identity of a third woman who worked as a doctor and had an affair with Gates, but it's unclear whether Epstein was aware of the flame, the source added. Photos released by the DOJ show Gates with Epstein and other powerful men, including at a January 2011 dinner with banker Jess Daley and former Harvard University president Larry Summers at Epstein's Upper east side townhouse. Oh, you know, the fellow travelers and all good buddies, but we were only talking about philanthropy. We were never talking about women, we were never talking about girls. And we certainly weren't talking about how to hide our money. Other images in the so called Epstein files. What does that mean, so called? What else are they if they're not files? Show Gates posing with women whose faces are redacted. A person familiar with Wednesday's interview Said the billionaire didn't know the identities of many of the women. Oh no, of course not. I had no idea. Richest guy in the world at the time, but I have no idea what's going on. Certainly not the smartest man in the room. Gates told the committee on Wednesday that he first met Epstein in 2011 and was promised billions of dollars for global health from the financiers, tax and estate services clients. But after a total of five meetings in person, Gates said the talks reached a dead end with no meaningful philanthropic support having been provided, causing him to cut off contact in December of 2014. So none of those other big time clients or buddies of yours could have helped you out. You know, somebody who is not a child molester. You couldn't find a criminal of the usual sort on Wall street, you know, financial criminal, whatever. Had to find the most vile man on earth to be part of your global charity. Lawmakers and staff on the oversight committee pressed further into the unlikely friendship as part of their 15th interview conducted in the bipartisan inquiry of the notorious case. I recall being aware that Epstein had faced prior legal issues, but I did not fully understand the extent of the crimes he committed. Gates oh also said of Epstein's 2018 guilty plea to Florida prostitution and child prostitution charges, a case that forced him to register as a sex offender. It's such a joke. Oh, we had no idea how bad it was. All you had to do was a brief Google look, right? Go search on Google real quick. And you know, the thing is, they knew. They didn't care. A source familiar with the Gates interview said that he was aware of Epstein's conviction was related to sex crimes when the relationship began. Comer also told reporters he would next seek to ask Epstein's former criminal defense attorney, the law professor Alan Dershowitz, to interview with the oversight panel. I offered to testify as a witness and I hope they take me up on that, dershowitz told the Post on Wednesday. Well, didn't you just tell us, Alan Dershowitz, that Epstein had no blackmail information on anybody and he didn't use it? So it seems like you have some explaining to do as well. So yeah, you should be in front of Congress. The request followed an interview with the money manager's longtime assistant, Leslie Groff, as well as other victims or survivors of Epstein's abuse. Comer and Garcia have both suggested Acting Attorney General Todd Blanche should return to to answer questions about the DoJ's release of around 3 million investigative files on Epstein. Gates recommended that the committee consult some former employees at his foundation as well as Summers to further the inquiry. Well, I can get down with that. Whoever can help further things along, I'm with it. The problem is I don't trust the committee. There's no teeth, there's no enforcement, and they get dog walked time and time again by the doj. So until there's some real oversight here and until somebody actually gets in trouble for, you know, lying, then in my opinion, it's just part of the COVID up. The whole entire point of this committee, remember, was to try and exonerate Donald Trump. That's what they were trying to do. And the reason that everybody who signed off on that petition is out of office now, besides Bobert, is because Donald Trump retaliated. And it shows you just how much of an issue this is for him and his administration. Has he acted like this with anything else that should tell you the tell. And as far as the Bill Gates testimony goes, if he's in fact telling the truth about the blackmail, that means that Cash Patel, Pam Bondi, Todd Blanche and the administration have all lied under oath. And that leaves us with one burning question. What's Congress going to do about it? All right, folks, that's going to do it for this one. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.

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