The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 9) (8/10/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: The New Mexico Epstein Commission Interim Report (Part 9)
Date: August 10, 2026
Host: Bobby Capucci

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Episode Overview

In this installment, Bobby Capucci delves into the findings and open questions from the New Mexico Truth Commission’s interim report, focusing specifically on law enforcement activity and survivor accounts related to Jeffrey Epstein’s Zorro Ranch. The episode scrutinizes police reports, outlines ongoing investigations, and provides harrowing survivor testimony, giving listeners an updated, evidence-based look at the ongoing unraveling of Epstein’s criminal network in New Mexico.

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1. Law Enforcement Activity at Zorro Ranch

(Start: 00:45)

Key Findings:

• The record of police activity at Zorro Ranch remains incomplete; the Commission is still gathering information (00:45).
• Calls and incidents are detailed from official records obtained from New Mexico agencies and federal releases.
• Noteworthy incidents:
  • Feb 16, 2016: An emergency call from the ranch hang-up; Karen Gordon (manager) said it was a mistake. No police report filed (01:10).
  • Aug 2018: Reported firearm theft; no evidence Epstein was investigated for firearms violations (02:00).
  • Post-Epstein's death (Aug 2019 onward): Six calls, including assault (a ranch hand was attacked), trespassing, burglary (subjects caught and charged), survivor outreach, threats, and theft of a security camera (02:30–07:30).
  • Example: In June 2020, a man and woman broke into a storage container and stole an antique Citroën car radiator converted into a shelf; they were detained by ranch staff and arrested by police (05:50).
  • Memorable moment: "On February 16, 2026, Deputy Clay Collison was dispatched to Zorro Ranch to investigate a report of a threat made by a person outside the front gate... The person brandished a crowbar and stated, 'I just got out of prison and I will expletive deleted you up.' The case is still open." (07:10)

Ongoing Investigations:

• Subpoenas are still outstanding for several 2018 and 2026 incidents.
• Many cases remain unresolved, signaling gaps and possible suppressed reporting during Epstein’s ownership.

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2. Patterns of Abuse, Grooming, and Trafficking

(Start: 08:15)

Investigative Scope:

• The Commission is focusing on whether Zorro Ranch was a hub for grooming, abuse, recruitment, and interstate sex trafficking.
• Preliminary evidence confirms minors and women were brought to the ranch over more than a decade.
• DOJ’s refusal to release unredacted court and investigative records hampers survivor identification and timeline construction.

Key Insight:
“Evidence reviewed to date supports the conclusion that Epstein abused at least five women and girls on Zorro Ranch between 1996 and 2012, including one who is now deceased.” (09:00)

Survivor Statistics:

• Five confirmed survivor accounts reviewed; at least 30 more potential victims identified.
• Many names yet unknown, some likely both survivors and facilitators.

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3. Survivor Testimonies

(Start: 09:30)

Jane Doe #1

• Incident Year: 1996 (Jane Doe interviewed by FBI in 2006, connection to SDNY’s Epstein investigation).
• Arrangements made for travel from Phoenix to NY, then to Santa Fe.
• At Zorro Ranch: Epstein and Maxwell took her in as the only guest.
  • Both engaged in manipulative, grooming behavior—movie outings, shopping trips.
  • Maxwell demonstrated a massage and encouraged Jane Doe to provide a foot massage to Epstein.
  • Maxwell later asked Jane Doe to undress and gave her a topless massage.
  • “The next morning, Epstein came into Jane Doe’s room and got into bed with her under the covers. They were both dressed.” (09:50)
  • Reiteration: public and private inappropriate touching, emotional manipulation, and unwanted advances.

Official Indictments

• The Maxwell indictment charges are echoed, with Jane Doe #1 substantively matching “Minor Victim Number 2” in court filings.
• The indictment details grooming, travel, and efforts to normalize sexualization.
• Maxwell’s role: “Maxwell began her efforts to groom minor Victim two for abuse by Epstein by, among other things, providing an unsolicited massage… Maxwell also encouraged minor victim two to massage Epstein.” (11:20)

Jane Doe #2

• Role: Professional massage therapist, frequent visitor starting 1999.
• Interactions: Massaged Epstein, Maxwell, and a number of young women (some minors).
  • “She recalled massaging Epstein approximately 15 times, Maxwell approximately five times, and guests approximately five times.” (12:20)
  • Received a non-disclosure agreement, which she refused to sign, and subsequently ceased visiting.
  • Recollection of “pictures of women with their breasts exposed” throughout the house.
  • Maxwell’s recruiting criteria: "if you have any more friends who want to come out, they have to be good looking, pretty, young, no hairy pits." (13:30)
  • Encounter with a girl who was disturbed by what she saw on the ranch.

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4. Notable Quotes & Moments

• On police documentation gaps:
  “A full record of police activity on Zorro Ranch is not complete. It’s therefore too early to discern any clear pattern or theme.” (00:48)

• On DOJ stonewalling:
  “Positive identification of survivors has been hampered by the DOJ’s refusal to release unredacted copies of court and other records.” (08:50)

• On Maxwell's grooming:
  “Maxwell gave a demonstration. Jane Doe then gave Epstein a foot massage. Maxwell later asked Jane Doe to undress so that Maxwell could give her a massage. Jane Doe removed her clothing, leaving only her underwear on. Maxwell completed the massage by rubbing her upper body, including her breasts.” (10:30)

• On ranch culture:
  “She remembers reading an article in Vanity Fair in 2003 about Epstein and remember thinking, holy shit, this is Jeffrey.” (12:46)

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5. Episode Structure & Flow

The episode maintains a methodical, documentary tone, with Bobby Capucci moving stepwise from official police records to victim impact reports, always pausing to provide context and critique for the findings (or lack thereof). Survivor stories are handled with gravity and detail, ensuring the listener understands both the factual record and the patterns connecting separate incidents.

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6. Useful Timestamps

• 00:45 — Introduction to the New Mexico Interim Report and Zorro Ranch police activity
• 02:30–07:30 — Breakdown of post-2019 calls and law enforcement response
• 08:15 — Introduction to survivor cases and the pattern of abuse
• 09:30–11:20 — Jane Doe #1 testimony and court citations
• 12:00–13:30 — Jane Doe #2, massage therapist and witness to ranch activities
• 14:40 — Maxwell’s recruiting comments and wrap-up to next episode

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7. Conclusion & Next Steps

Capucci ends the episode promising further coverage, emphasizing the seriousness of the allegations, and reiterating the need for transparency from law enforcement and the federal government. Listeners are encouraged to check the episode’s description box for further information and detailed documentation.

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For listeners seeking comprehensive, up-to-date coverage about Epstein’s New Mexico operations and related survivor accounts, this episode offers a structured, fact-driven narrative, connecting firsthand testimony with the broader criminal investigation.

Transcript

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what's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in to that New Mexico Interim Report from their Truth Commission Law Enforcement Calls to Zorro Ranch A full record of police activity on Zorro Ranch is not complete. It's therefore too early to discern any clear pattern or theme. This summary of law enforcement calls to Zorro Ranch is derived from records obtained by the New Mexico Department of Public Safety and the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office in response to Commission subpoenas. Additional information was obtained from the EFTA release from the doj. According to records released under the efta, an emergency call was placed to New Mexico Law enforcement on Feb 16, 2016 at 8:43am from the main landline on Zorro Ranch. The call was placed and the dialer hung up. The dispatch called back and spoke with Karen Gordon, a ranch manager, who advised that everything's fine and later told police who were dispatched that a call was never made from the property. The call was logged by the Regional Emergency Communication center, which is operated jointly by the City and County of Santa Fe, according to emails between ranch manager Bryce Gordon and Jeffrey Epstein. Bryce stated it was probably the same patrol car we spotted just before Lammy. Epstein forwarded the email to his pilot, Larry Vasoski, with a note that said instinct, to which the pilot agreed. According to the Santa Fe New Mexican, there was no police report in conjunction with the 2016 call. The dispatch log noted no report required. The commission will continue to investigate this incident. Importantly, In August of 2018, the New Mexico State Police were called to Zorro Ranch to investigate a report of a firearm theft. At this time, the commission has obtained no evidence showing that Epstein was ever under investigation for unlawful possession of firearms A follow up subpoena will be issued to the New Mexico Department of Public Safety for additional information about the August 2018 state police call to Zorro Ranch, as well as for information regarding any other State Police investigation relating in any way to Zorro Ranch or its employees. Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office records document six calls to Zorro Ranch, but all of them occurred after Epstein's death in August of 2019. The February 2016 call described above logs separately by the Regional Emergency communication center. On November 11, 2019, Deputy Maria Hernandez of the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Office was dispatched to St. Vincent's Hospital in Santa Fe, New Mexico, where she made contact with Steve Chavez, a ranch hand employed at Zorro Ranch. Chavez reported that two men approached him while he was posting no Trespassing signs on Zorro Ranch. The two males, who spoke Spanish, proceeded to assault them by punching and kicking him. The men fled and the black SUV was seen in the area. Officer Hernandez made contact with Bryce Gordon to inquire about persons seen in the area. The assailants were not identified or apprehended. On May 7, 2020, Deputy Joe Vigil of the Santa Fe County Sheriff's Deputy Office was dispatched to 49 Zorro Ranch Road to investigate a report of trespassers. Officer Vigil spoke with Karen Gordon, who said she heard the security alarm go off and then saw two males walking on the property. Gordon confronted the men and asked them what they were doing there and they said they'd been told by True News that the place was a tourist attraction and they could go wherever they wanted on the property. Gordon told the men they were trespassing and they left. Two Zorro Ranch workers then got on their ATVs and attempted to locate the trespassers to no avail. No further action was taken. On June 15, 2020, Deputy Rachel Weber was dispatched to Zorro Ranch to investigate a burglary. Ranch personnel had apprehended the subjects, a male and a female, later identified as Daryl Carson and Melanie Viegas, and were holding them at gunpoint. Upon investigation, it was determined that Carson and Villegas breached a storage container and stole an antique Citron car radiator which had been converted into a shelf. The pair were taken into custody, detained and charged with possession of of burglary tools, larceny and criminal damage to property. The case status is unknown at this time. On August 24, 2020, Deputy G. NATO made telephonic contact with a survivor who reported that Epstein sexually assaulted him in Los Angeles on December 5, 1993. The case was closed when Epstein was declared deceased. On February 16, 2026, Deputy Clay Collison was dispatched to Zorro Ranch to investigate a report of a threat made by a person outside the front gate of the ranch. According to the report, the person brandished a crowbar and stated, I just got out of prison and I will expletive deleted you up. The case is still open. On February 24, 2026, Deputy Joshua Thomas was dispatched to Zorro Ranch to investigate the theft of a security camera. Discussion of the Investigative Areas this investigative area covers the areas of grooming, abuse occurring at the Zorro Ranch, recruitment, and interstate trafficking. Evidence discussed in this section is preliminary and the Commission anticipates additional survivors may come forward. FBI and federal court records establish that minors were brought to Epstein, Zorro Ranch and Abuser the Maxwell indictment charges that a minor was groomed at the property in 1996, starting with an unsolicited topless massage. A victim sentencing statement describes being flown to the ranch at 15 in 2004 and sexually molested for many hours. These are separate incidents involving different victims spanning at least eight years. Positive identification of survivors has been hampered by the DOJ's refusal to to release unredacted copies of court and other records. Nonetheless, the evidence reviewed to date supports the conclusion that Epstein abused at least five women and girls on Zorro Ranch between 1996 and 2012, including one who is now deceased. Survivors the Commission has reviewed the reports of five survivors. There are almost certainly additional survivors who fell prey to Epstein in New Mexico. Indeed, the Commission has counted at least 30 other individuals who potentially were abused by Epstein in New Mexico. The exclusion of survivor from the list below is not intended as a comment on the credibility of a survivor's report of abuse. However, too little is known about these individuals at this point to confirm necessary facts. Some may be witnesses to abuse, but not survivors of it, others may be facilitators of of Epstein's abuse, and some may be both survivor and facilitator. The investigation continues with a focus on positively identifying and questioning these witnesses. Reports of confirmed survivors are here to extent possible, and they are as follows. Jane Doe Number 1 In 2006, the FBI interviewed Jando1, who recounted interaction she had with Epstein and Maxwell in New York and on Zorro Ranch in 1996. The interview was conducted in connection with the Southern District of Florida investigation of Epstein. The report of this interview records in part as follows. Epstein purchased airfare from Phoenix to New York. Jane Doe flew to New York and stayed with her Sister in the West Village, Jane Doe and her sister met Epstein at his residence where he offered them a bottle of champagne. Epstein took them to see Phantom of the Opera and on the way offered more champagne. At a later time, Epstein took them to see a movie. During the movie, Epstein held and caressed her hand, which made her feel uncomfortable. Later, Epstein or Maxwell purchased an airline ticket for her to fly to Santa Fe. When she arrived in Santa Fe, the Zorro Ranch manager picked her up. When she arrived at the ranch, there was some discussion about where she was going to stay on the property, and Epstein made it clear that she'd be staying with them. She was the only guest at the ranch. During her visit, Epstein and Maxwell took her to town for some shopping. During the evening, Epstein asked if she would provide him with a foot massage. Maxwell gave a demonstration. Jane Doe then gave Epstein a foot massage. Maxwell later asked Jane Doe to undress so that Maxwell could give her a massage. Jane Doe removed her clothing, leaving only her underwear on. Maxwell completed the massage by rubbing her upper body, including her breasts. The next morning, Epstein came into Jane Doe's room and got into bed with her under the covers. They were both dressed. They later went to a movie during which Epstein stroked and caressed her hand and put his hand on Jane Doe's thigh. Later that night, Epstein came into Jane Doe's room, sat on her bed, stroked Jane Doe's hair and and told her how beautiful she was.

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the indictment in the United States versus Glenn Maxwell in the United States District Court of the Southern District of New York. Alleged defense conduct occurring on Zorro Ranch and involving a minor designated as minor victim number two. It's understood that minor victim number two is Jane Doe 1, and the indictment alleges as follows. Maxwell interacted with Minor victim number two on on at least one occasion in or about 1996 at Epstein's residence in New Mexico when minor victim two was under the age of 18. Minor victim number two had flown into New Mexico from out of state at Epstein's invitation for the purpose of being groomed and or subjected to acts of sexual abuse. Maxwell knew that minor victim two was under the age of 18 at the time. While in New Mexico, Maxwell and Epstein took Minor 2 to a movie and Maxwell took Minor 2 shopping. Maxwell also discussed Minor 2's school, classes and family with Minor Victim 2 in New Mexico. Maxwell began her efforts to groom minor Victim two for abuse by Epstein by, among other things, providing an unsolicited massage to minor victim two, during which minor Victim two was topless. Maxwell also encouraged minor victim two to massage Epstein. These allegations were repeated in the superseding indictment returned in SDNY's prosecution of Maxwell. The Maxwell detention memorandum also alluded to Jane Doe one's abuse, stating that the abuse occurred at Epstein's properties in New York, Florida and New Mexico. Jane Doe no. 1 who appeared at Epstein's bail hearing testifying that Epstein had flown her to New Mexico and was inappropriate with her. Jane Doe number two. Jane Doe two was a massage therapist who was interviewed in connection with the SDNY Zepstein investigation. She has spoken to the FBI, to the media about her interactions with Epstein and Maxwell on Zorro Ranch. Jane Doe too reported to the FBI that she started going to the ranch as a professional massage therapist. In 99. She became friends with Zorro Ranch house manager. She went to Zorro Ranch for three years. Epstein came to the ranch approximately three to four times a year. Jane Doe too massaged Maxwell, Epstein and a younger woman who looked like models. Someone at the ranch was a previous massage therapist approximately two years after she started going to the ranch. Jane Doe too was given a non disclosure agreement, but she did not sign it and stopped going to the ranch shortly thereafter. She remembered reading an article in vanity fair in 2003 about about Epstein and remember thinking, holy shit, this is Jeffrey. She stopped going to the ranch prior to this article being published. Jane Doe too remembered the layout of the main residence and remembered pictures of women with their breasts exposed. She spent most of her time there in the massage room and also massaged a girl in the spare bedroom. She also massaged Epstein and Maxwell once in their bedroom and once in their expensive bathroom. She recalls massaging Epstein approximately 15 times, Maxwell approximately five times and Guess approximately five times. She recalled massaging three girls and two older men. One of the girls had a British accent and one of the men was a physicist. The massages turned sexual with Epstein. She recalls she received payment by check with the name of Epstein's corporation on it. She knew of a reflexologist who went to the ranch. Maxwell told her, if you have any more friends who want to come out, they have to be good looking, pretty, young, no hairy pits. One girl was brought to the ranch. Her name was redacted as was her age. The girl said ew and never wanted to go back. All right folks, we're going to wrap up this episode right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.

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