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Epstein Files Unsealed: Juan Alessi And The Deposition Given To Detective Recarey (Part 2)
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a sworn statement given by Juan Alessi to Palm Beach law enforcement during the early phase of the Epstein investigation. In that statement, Alessi describes his role as the house manager at Epstein’s Palm Beach residence and recounts that young girls...
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what's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up where we left off with Juana Lessi's deposition with Joseph Ricari as part of the original investigation into Jeffrey Epstein in Florida. Question Would these massage girls, especially towards the end, would they come alone or would they come with other people? Answer Mostly they would come alone. And it was one girl, one of the young girls, the one I can't think of, she would bring somebody else. She'd bring other girls, but I didn't even know the names. Question all of them would go downstairs. Answer yes. Question or would one stay downstairs? Answer Most of the time when the girl came, it was at night. So after dinner. After dinner they went to the movies and by the time they went to the movies, we clean up right away and and tried to get out of there. And that was about 8 or 9 o' clock at night. After, when they came back, I don't know what happened. Our quarters were different. I don't know if you've been in the house, but our quarters were separate. Question it's separate. Answer Separate before that building is new. They build the building in 2001. Question the guest quarters. Answer yeah, the guest quarters before we had an apartment upstairs. They have the laundry and a little office and the bedroom. Answer yes, that was 2001. Before that we had an apartment upstairs in their house, in the main house. Question in the little rooms upstairs across from his master bedroom. Right. Question Was there ever any photographs that you can recall around the house? Answer. Girls. Girls. Photographs and guest photographs. Yes. Were they dressed or were they naked? Answer. Most of them were dressed. It was a lot of entertainment in the pool. Around the pool, but most of them were dressed. Question. When was the last time that you spoke with Mr. Epstein? Answer. The last time I spoke with Mr. Epstein was about a week ago when you left me the card. I got scared because of the fallout that we had, and I thought it was a consequence of that. And I called and say, jeffrey, what's going on? What's happening? Because I thought it was part of an investigation against me on his part. Oh, well, I'm sorry if I gave you that impression. That's why I called him. That's the only reason that I called before I even spoke to you. Just when you found the card? When I find the card, I get scared. I said, what's going on now? Why are you bothering me in my house? That's why I called him. He said, john, there is no investigation going on. I have nothing to talk to you. That's it. I said, okay. He didn't give you any information? Not a word. Question. Has anybody else contacted you from Mr. Epstein's organization? His assistants, his attorneys? No, no, no. Anyone that works for his attorneys? For his attorney? Yes. For his attorney, the present attorney? Yes. That was an investigator that it was investigated on his side. I can't remember his name, but I understand it was from Roy Black's office. That was his attorney. And this investigator basically asked me the same questions. Exactly the same questions. What did I know? What did I know? Question. When did this happen? Answer. This happened about 10 days ago. About a week ago. 10 days. I'm not sure what date. Question. Was his investigator's name? It's the date after I contacted you. Paul. Paul? Paul, yes. You have a last name? No. He asked me exactly the same questions. Did he offer you any money? Absolutely not. I will not take it. Did he tell you not to speak with me? No. He says no. He told me not to speak to you. He. He didn't say that to me. He says, it's your choice. You make the decision. And he says if you hire a lawyer, you make that decision. And we feel that was important for us. I don't want to be involved with this thing. I'm out of the job three years ago, and that's why we hired Mr. Morel. He suggested that Question. Did he ask you if anybody else had been contacted? No. Question. Did he tell you to call him back? And after our meeting? Answer, no. No. Question. Were you to have any contact with them at any time after our meeting? Answer, if I will have contact, I have no reason for it. I have no reason to call Jeffrey or anybody else. This is over, I hope. Question. Well, Mr. Alesi, this is basically an ongoing investigation. So obviously anything that we discuss hopefully will stay between us because it's still ongoing. I wouldn't want this out until the investigation is complete. Answer, it's not going anywhere. Even my kids don't know it. Question. He contacted you after you called Mr. Epstein? Answer. Yes, when I call him. And I said, jeffrey, what's going on? He said, john, I don't know what's going on. There's an investigation against me. So then I said, whoo, thank God. I don't know what's happening. And then he says, I have an investigator, that it's investigating the same thing police department is doing. He's going to contact you. And that was the end of it. I think his name was Paul. I only met him for about 15 minutes. 10 minutes questioned. You met at your house? No, no, I don't want him at my house. We met at Carrabba's restaurant, but it was not open, so we met outside Carrabba's. It took about 10 minutes. Question. Going back to the items that were found in the sink, can you describe any of those massagers? Answer. I only saw two things. It was a big, big, I think, vibrator. Big, indicating. And it was a long. I hate to say it, I'm sorry. It was a long dick, I think, rubber thing. And there was a thing used in the back, the vibrator in the back. Question what color? Answer. We always had those. Not those toys. Vibrators. We have different types. What? One for the neck, one for the back. You know, one that has a battery and they move with balls on it. Vibrator. That's it. That's what I find there. I never find anything else. Those two things. Do you remember any names of the girls that might have come over for massages? Yes, I remember some of them. From the beginning? From the end. Question. As many as you can remember? As many? As many as I can remember. I know it's been a while. It was Jody, it was Donna, it was Virginia. It was. How many? Virginia? Lana. It was also a young girl, but she was not a massage therapist. She came to the house as a friend, I think. I don't think she was a massage therapist. Her name was. As a matter of fact, she's in a soap opera now. She's a star. Just give me a minute. Nadia Jordan. There also were men. Masseuses. Question There were men too. Answer There were men. A few. Not that many. A few. I can't remember. Allison. There was an Allison. There was a Dina. I think every name girl's name in 11 years. I can't remember. Question that's fine. Answer There were girls coming and going. There were girls traveling with them as massage therapists. They would travel the world with him. Because he was in the plane. He. He got massages on the plane. Because I. No. Because I used to supply the oils and the towels for the plane. Would you clean the plane too? No. No. Did you ever travel with him anywhere? No. No. When he went to New York or Arizona or his private island. I've been on his island. I've been as a guest. As a vacation. We took vacation and I went to his island in the Caribbean and. And I've been to New Mexico. I've been to his house in London. But not as a worker, just vacation. As a vacation. Uh huh. We went to New Mexico for. It was kind of a symposium about how to clean homes. It was this lady who teach all the house people housemen. And they invited us to Santa Fe, New Mexico to teach us how to clean homes. That was kinda stupid. Question. How we wanted the house to be cleaned. Yes. We didn't get that much. Question can you think of anything that I haven't asked you that might be relevant to this? Answer. I can't think of anything. Basically it's the same questions that the other investigator asked me. Exactly the same. I wish I could give you some names. Question I'm not going to ask you to do that because I know it's been a long time. I can't think of stuff I did last week. Answer. It's been a long time. If by any chance you are contacted again by his investigator again for any more questions or anything or any packages that he might deliver to you, they have to go to Mr. Morrell. I was going to say have him contact your attorney. Mr. Morel. Packages. Are we expecting a delivery or something? Detective Ricari No, I'm just saying. Mr. Morel. Okay. Just making sure there wasn't something I didn't know about. Detective Ricari. I. E. Gifts, etc, that kind of thing. The witness no. Ricari. I would appreciate a phone call just to give me a heads up. The witness. I do not intend to contact them at all. Detective Ricari. Okay, I appreciate it. And that's it. And with that the deposition at least this deposition of Juanalesi comes to an end. And when we put all these depositions together and start looking at these receipts, it becomes relatively clear that there was a lot more going on than they want to tell us. There was a lot more going on as far as co conspirators, other people involved, other people around, and other people that should be sitting in a jail cell right next to Ghislaine Maxwell. And I think the biggest takeaway for me is all the receipts that we're getting that just go to prove everything that we've been talking about over the years. So, like usual, we'll continue to add these depositions and these court documents so that we can all have the context we need to truly understand what the hell is going on here. And not only that, but who is involved. 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