
In the early hours of August 10, 2019, an anonymous user on the 4chan message board (specifically the /pol/ board) posted that Epstein had died by hanging and cardiac arrest—writing, “Don’t ask me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago…” The post...
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to save Jeffrey Epstein's death was reported at 8:54am by Aaron Katerski for ABC News. The only problem with that is 38 minutes prior to that post going public, Jeffrey Epstein's death was already announced on 4chan. The question is who made the post on 4chan about Jeffrey Epstein's death? And I've looked and looked and looked and there has been no follow up reporting about this. So we had the initial story break on August 13th and it was, you know, being reported that this post was made on 4chan and we know that the FDNY, they initiated an investigation or a review into into if it could have been one of their employees who made the post. Well after that conversation with the chief of the fire department occurred where he said that they did the review and they found out that it was not one of them. Well we the story pretty much just went away. We haven't heard anything about it. There's been no follow up reports, there's been no media reports about it, nothing. So I thought that we'd go back and we take a look at that post from On4chan with the benefit of hindsight. Now again, I don't know what the deal is, right? And more than likely it was probably somebody who was working the crime scene who I guess uses 4chan as well, who decided that they were going to break the story themselves and post as an anon on 4chan and basically scoop the media. Now that's the most likely scenario, right? But who knows, we don't have any evidence really any reporting at all about this except for the initial story. So I thought it was a good idea to go back and have another look at this with hindsight as our tool that we can use. You know, now that we know so much about the case, when we go back and we take a look at it, maybe things will fall into place, right? Maybe we'll have a better idea of about who would be posting on 4chan and what that motivation would be. So again, more than likely it was Somebody who was working the crime scene. There was a bunch of people working the crime scene, obviously, right? So it was probably one of them who made the post. But that doesn't answer the question of who the person is. Right. That's the likeliest scenario. But how come there was never any reporting about this after the fact? How come there was never no follow up or no digging or anybody trying to figure out who the initial author was? I think it's pretty interesting that they just let this story die out because who knows, whoever made that post could, might be able to add a little bit of perspective to the case, a little bit of context, Right? So we're gonna go back and we're gonna check out the first article. It's a BuzzFeed News article and we're gonna see what they have to say. This article was first published August 13, 2019. And this, this article was written by Jane Le Litvinenko. Headline, Jeffrey Epstein's death was on 4chan before officials announced it and authorities had to look into it. About 38 minutes before news outlets first reported Jeffrey Epstein's death in prison, a 4chan user published a detailed post about it. Now that's pretty concerning in the best of times, right? Very concerning. When you see something like that and it looks like a breach from the inside and an employee more than likely, but again, who knows? And you see this kind of thing. And a, it's very unprofessional, right? And B, you have to ask yourself, why would somebody that's in the middle of doing this work, you know, trying to resuscitate Epstein or showing up to the crime scene, what's their motivation for posting it on 4chan? And that's a question I've asked myself time and time again when I've looked back at this part of the case and pondered who it could be and what their motivation was making that post? And again, more than likely it was probably just somebody at the crime scene, right? Somebody who is, you know, not so serious about their job, obviously. And who decided that, you know what, I'm gonna shitpost real quick to 4chan and I'm gonna scoop the media. That's, that's what I would. When, when I first looked at this. This is what I, you know, the scenario I came up with. And still, you know, going back and looking at it, I'm still leaning towards that as the scenario of the origination of this post, but I think it deserves further examination. And I think, you know, there's definitely a question to be asked as to who the author was. New York City Fire Department looked into whether an employee posted about Jeffrey Epstein's death on a notorious Internet message board prior to officials announcing it to the public. BuzzFeed News has learned. After telling BuzzFeed News the post was under review, an FDNY spokesperson said authorities determined this alleged information that did not come from the fire department. All right, so it didn't come from the fire department. What about the correctional officers that were on the scene? What about, you know, anybody else who might have been there, whatever? Who's the doctor? I think this is, you know, something that should not have been ignored. And if somebody who is working the scene and working as an employee of the. The jail system, I think that people should act as and conduct themselves correctly when it comes to something like this so that there can be no outs for people like Epstein and their lawyers. Right. You know what? If Jeffrey Epstein would have survived this and they would have conducted their investigation and the resuscitation and all of that stuff, and they would have done it in a manner that was considered sloppy. You don't think Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys, led by Alan Dershowitz, would have had a field day with that and found a loophole to get him some less time or whatever? Because that's how they play this game. When you're dealing with somebody like Epstein and you're dealing with somebody that's as powerful as he is when it comes to his manipulation of the courts, you have to make sure that you have an ironclad case and you're following the rules to a tee. And we know from everything that went on the day of his Epstein's death, we know that literally no steps were followed. There was no pictures of the crime scene video. I mean, video footage, body cam footage by the. The officers who responded, they moved the body. All sorts of bad stuff happened, right? So this is just another question that has not been answered. An investigation is a formal. Is a formal act which brings about a process which includes interviewing witnesses, serving notice, determining credibility of witness statements. And that was not warranted, nor did it take place here. This determination was made after a review of the incident. We looked at the information provided by a reporter, and we looked at our own records, and there was no match, said FDNY spokesperson Frank Dwyer, who added that the FDNY's Office of Healthcare Compliance conducted the review. It doesn't match our medical records. Almost 40 minutes before ABC News first reported Epstein's death on Twitter, someone posted still unverified details on 4chan, the anonymous message board popular with far right trolls and white nationalists. I think that they could probably tone that back a little bit, right? How about a popular message board with all sorts of radicals and whack jobs? I mean, have you ever dipped your toe into 4chan? If you're looking for a a look into the human psyche of the incel or the psychopath, definitely 4chan would be the place to go. I'm talking if Sigmund Freud was alive and he went to 4chan, he would have a field day. The Post don't ask me how I know, but Epstein died an hour ago from hanging and cardiac arrest. Screencap this read the post, which was published at 8:16am alongside an image of Pepe the green frog that has become a mascot for right wing Internet trolls. And again, the buzzfeed obviously has their political bent, right? Obviously has their own bias. And of course if they get a chance to slam the football down and score some political points by pointing out that right wing troll hang out on 4chan, well they can never help. They can never help themselves. They have to do it. So they have to make sure they slam the football down and make sure that they're doing their part to keep the tribalism in play. Meanwhile, none of that's necessary. Just give us the information and don't try and divide the people. Let the people come together and force justice in the case. Right? But even when they're reporting on something as serious as this at a place like BuzzFeed, it has to be skewered. It has to be has to have a political bend, right? And it's different from other outlets on the right, you know, Breitbart, etc. Etc. It's all the same thing. And what it is folks, and why I pointed out, is just more gaslighting. It's more gaslighting by the the legacy media, them trying to get you to think a certain way. That message was posted 38 minutes before the first tweet about Epstein's death from Aaron Katerski, an ABC News reporter, at 8:54am Five minutes later, the main ABC News account tweeted an article about Epstein's
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After publishing the post, other 4chan users egged on the author when they expressed doubt. The original poster added more information to the discussion thread, including a detailed breakdown of the procedures allegedly used to resuscitate Epstein, which suggests the poster may have been a first responder, medical worker, or otherwise privy to details about efforts to resuscitate the disgraced financier pedophile. So that's interesting, right? The details that the. The poster posted afterwards match up with what happens at a scene like this, suggesting that it was a medical worker or somebody that was a medic or with training. Now, who knows who else was around? Do we have a full accounting of who was in that cell when Epstein was being resuscitated? Maybe there was a doctor there that we didn't know about. Could be. Right? We don't know. That's the problem, folks. That's the biggest problem here. There has not been any transparency when it comes to the government. There has been zero transparency when it comes to the circumstances that led to Jeffrey Epstein's death. And therefore, in lieu of that, there is going to be questions, there's going to be skepticism. Nobody's going to believe that the narrative that they're trying to push when the only person who's seen these supposed tapes is Barr, right? Of what was going on in the cell. I saw the tapes. You can trust me that nothing occurred. So, sorry, buddy, I don't trust you. You see all these coincidences that are around Jeffrey Epstein's death, it warrants more investigation, and it certainly warrants more than. You have to trust me. And believe me, especially when all of the players that are involved in this are at the highest levels of power. How do we know that you're not covering for them? Nobody's going to trust just your word on something like this, right? And again, we don't know who is at the scene. We don't have a detailed listing. We don't have an account of. Of the actual personnel that showed up when Epstein supposedly killed himself. We don't have. We don't have those details. So it's muddy. It could be anybody. It could be a fireman and the review missed it. It could be a medic and the review missed it. It could be an employee of the. Of the prison and the review missed it. Who knows who it was? And that's the question I'm asking. Who could have possibly made this post and why has it not been of interest enough to the legacy media for them to come back and take another look at this? Dwyer told BuzzFeed News he could not verify the accuracy of the information in the 4chan post. But he said any medical professional who divulges patient information without consent is in violation of a federal health privacy law, hipaa, and that FDNY would look into it again. Another case of the investor, the investigated investigating themselves. You know, don't get me wrong, the fire department and anywhere in the world are, is filled with brave souls, right? Absolute modern day heroes. Anyone who runs into a building that's on fire has a big set on them and deserves respect, right? So I'm not talking about the, the, the actual firemen here, but when you get into the bureaucrats. Look, this is big business, man. Especially in a place like New York, it's big business. When you become the chief or you're the head of the fire department, you're not, you're no longer a man that's running into buildings. You're in, you're in a different circle, right? You're in another, another food range. At this point. You're dealing with politics, you're dealing with politicians, city councilmen, et cetera, et cetera. So of course they're going to lean on you and they're going to suggest that you move things in a forthright manner. And you know, look, these guys are not above being pressured, right? You're a police chief, whatever it may be. These guys are pressured all the time. We see it all the time. And it was, that's probably what was happening here as well. They, you know, they were pressured to get initiated in a review and they probably did a review, but not a long one, not a good one, not one that, that truly vetted everybody that was there. Kind of just like a save face review, in my opinion. The department will review this incident, he said at the time. The FDNY later said that it is reviewing the incident, but there is no investigation. That's interesting, huh? Just a review that didn't even warrant enough for an investigation, huh? Even if it was just something as, as basic as one of the medics or the fire department guys that were on scene or a police officer, a corrections officer, I should say. Even if it was something like one of them made the, then that should, you know, they should, they should say that they shouldn't conduct this shoddy review and then come out and say up. Well, we don't know who made the post because that doesn't really cut it. Right. There were only certain members that were the certain people that were there. So there's a list of people that it could have been. I just don't understand how this doesn't warrant more investigation to find out who made the post. Oren Barzilay, the president of The Union for EMT Workers Local 2507 in New York, said our members do not release this type of confidential information. This looks like third party info. Alright, well what third parties were there? Again, that's the question I have. Doesn't mean that there was something devious going on with this post or that it was part of a grand conspiracy, but it certainly warrants further investigation. And for some context. Right. And some clarity going forward. This is, this is another problem I have with the legacy media. They like to report stuff and then never go back and do a follow up. And what they do is they just, you know, keep it moving and they act like it wasn't important or it wasn't a useful piece of information in the case and they just bury it. And I don't understand why they would do that and not try and figure out where this post originated. I think that that would be an interesting investigation and the person who wrote the Post, I think that would be one hell of an interview. Barzolet also told BuzzFeed News the union would investigate the potential breach of confidentiality if such a claim came forward. There's serious consequences for those violations, discipline, suspensions, civil penalties, etc. Barzelay said in an email. Oh yeah, we can tell, we can tell that you guys really initiated an investigation, huh? Again, nothing against the union. Right. They have to protect their members. I get it. But where is the independent oversight of all of these bureaucracies? There is none. It's supposed to come from Congress or the city council locally, but we never see that. They're too busy advancing whatever their own motivations are, whatever their own private personal projects might be. They don't have time for oversight. Oversight. Yeah, right. They'll conduct their own investigations. And then when something horrible happens and someone like Jeffrey Epstein dies in jail, the finger starting point begins, right? They start blaming each other. Oh, this, this part of the department was, was lax or this part department didn't do their job. When we know it's a systematic problem, the whole entire thing from top to bottom is broken, including the two tiered justice system. When are we going to address that? When are we going to fix that? The medical Examiner's office and the Metropolitan Correctional center both Declined to comment. Spokespeople for the New York Presbyterian Hospital have not responded to repeated emails and calls requesting comment. That's interesting. Now, I don't have any evidence of anybody who could have made this post, right? But in my opinion, I bet you it came from the medical examiner's office. It sounds like something from a medical examiner's office, in my opinion. Now, who that could be, I have no idea. And if that's even the case, I have no evidence to prove that that's. From reading this and knowing about the circumstances surrounding this, in my opinion, that's the likeliest place for this leak to have originated. The full details of Epstein's death won't be known until the final coroner's report is released, meaning the 4chan post laying out the alleged treatment he received cannot be fully verified. An EMS expert contacted by BuzzFeed News said the details in the post are consistent with standard practices, and again, they'll do. They're trying to make it seem here like, you know, we still can't verify the. The. The. What happened afterwards, the stuff that the. The poster talked about afterwards. But I think while that's important, the most. The. The biggest thing here is the fact that the poster broke the story before Legacy Media, 38 minutes before Legacy media. Where did he get that information? As we all know, the legacy media is on everything. You know, they. Something salacious like this. They have contacts everywhere. The fact that they were scooped for so long is. It's. It's crazy to me to think that they didn't. They didn't get their claws on the story first, and they were scooped by 4chan. Information released by the Federal Bureau of Prisons also appears to line up with some of what was posted on 4chan. Again, it. Look, in my opinion, there's zero doubt that this post originated from the site of Jeffrey Epstein's death from the jailhouse. Now, the question is, who made the post? Right. That is the whole point of tonight's episode. And the whole point of the question that I'm asking is who could have possibly made this post, and why has there not been more of an investigation into the origination of this post? Dr. Keith Wesley, an emergency medicine physician who has authored several EMS textbooks and articles, viewed the 4chan post at BuzzFeed News request and said it lays out standard procedures for paramedics. This sounds like standard American Heart association guidelines, which most EMS agencies use. Wesley said parts of the post refers to telemetry advised bicarb. According to Wesley, this could mean the first responders were also speaking with the hospitals as they were trying to resuscitate their patient. That's pretty interesting, right? They were talking to the hospital according to that post and they were seeking guidance. Right? They were in the field and they were seeking guidance from doctors as these medics attempted to resuscitate Jeffrey Epstein. Telemetry implies the paramedics were in contact with a medical control hospital who then gave orders to give sodium bicarbonate bicarb which is designed to reverse the acid buildup in the blood from prolonged cardiac arrest, Wesley said in an email. So here was the follow up post by the Anon who sent the original post about Epstein being dead. Worked acetol arrest for 40 minutes ALS intubated in the field EPI 2 liters NS infused telemetry, advised bicarb and D50 in the field. Patient transported to Lower Manhattan ER and worked on for 20 minutes and called hospital administrator was alerted preparing statements. So that was the follow up post to the original post where they stated that Epstein had been was dead. Right. So they added this later on not I don't know how much. Let's see what time later this was added about the 8:47:56 so still this post, the second post that he made was still 7 minutes roughly before ABC scooped I mean before ABC came out and reported the news. So that's pretty interesting right? This this poster fired off two posts about Epstein's death before ABC News even
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If one of the medics posted this separately that's a breach of protocol. He added. If there was an identify if there was identifying information on the patient, that is a violation of Federal HIPAA law. The 4chan user made six posts about Epstein's death. One of them claimed that attempts to resuscitate Epstein was made for 40 minutes before he was transported to the hospital, at which point medical personnel tried to revive him for another 20 minutes. Those details are at least partially consistent with the information regarding Epstein's death that have been publicly released by The Federal Bureau of Prisons. So I think it's pretty fair to say at this point that the person who made that post was in the know. They knew what was going on, they had an idea, a very good idea of, of the situation at on hand and they knew exactly what went on. Meaning the steps that were taken to try and resuscitate Epstein and bring him back to life after he was found unresponsive in his cell. Which suggests to me a medical professional of some sort. PT Transport transported to lower Manhattan ER and worked on for 20 minutes and called hospital administrator was alerted preparing statements said the 4chan Post staff requested emergency medical services and life saving efforts continued, said a statement released by the Department of Justice Federal Bureau of prisons. On Saturday, Mr. Epstein was transported by EMS to a local hospital for treatment of life threatening injuries and subsequently pronounced dead by hospital staff. So you see how it adds up, right? This is what the poster originally said. And then you have the Department of Justice giving us their very cryptic releases like usual. Just enough information, right? So it's unbelievable how much they keep back from the American public. It is unbelievable how they play games with the American public. It's not clear who posted the news of Epstein's death on 4chan, but first responders and hospital staff would have access to information laid out in the post. The reaction of 4chan to the news was explosive. Some users didn't believe the authority, while others launched straight into conspiracy theories that have since engulfed news of Epstein's death. The 4chan thread was first found by Conrad Eterby, a developer based in Barcelona who was researching conspiracies surrounding Epstein's Epstein online. That'll keep the conspiracies forever. Iterby said about the 4chan post. And again, look folks, we've, we. I don't have any information that's saying that this is some kind of, you know, huge part of the case or anything like that. This isn't like a piece of information that's gonna blow this case wide open. But it's very interesting that nobody has reported on this since we have no. No news reports about who the Post might have been made by, no follow up stories about it. And it's pretty significant that a story as big as. As big as this was broke on 4chan as opposed to by the legacy media. Pretty amazing in my opinion. Now again, in my all signs lead to a medical professional being the person who posted this. Now the question would be who were the medical professionals that were on scene. And of course we don't have that information, so we can't even begin to speculate. All I can say is that this post Definitely was made on 4chan before Jeffrey Epstein was dead. This, this post called it before Jeffrey Epstein was dead, and then went into the procedures that were supposedly used on Jeffrey Epstein to try and resuscitate him. And this was all before ABC even reported that the guy was dead. Crazy times we're living in, folks. Crazy times that we are living in. There are so many different rabbit holes to go down in Jeffrey in this Jeffrey Epstein case that it's, it's, it's mind boggling that every single time you think that you have a question answered in this case, another one arises. So again, folks, what do you think? Who do you think could have been the author of that post? It could have been a medical professional, maybe one of the guards. What do you guys think? You can shoot me an email at proton bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C C I protonmail.com this week with digital
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In this episode, Bobby Capucci dives deep into the curious case of how a 4chan user publicly reported Jeffrey Epstein’s death nearly 40 minutes before any official announcement from the legacy media. Bobby breaks down the timeline, examines the initial reporting, dissects the institutional response, and asks why such an explosive leak has never been thoroughly investigated or revisited by mainstream outlets. The conversation is rooted in skepticism towards official narratives, frustration with systemic lack of transparency, and insight into the persistent rabbit holes of the Epstein case.
4chan’s Early Scoop
Nature of the 4chan Post
Lack of Follow-up
Official Response
Medical Details in the Post
The 4chan poster added more follow-up messages, which included technical descriptions of resuscitation procedures, indicating direct involvement or professional expertise.
EMS experts confirmed the described procedures aligned with standard protocols, adding credibility to the suggestion the poster was likely EMS, hospital staff, or a medic.
HIPAA and Institutional Accountability
Opaque Process & Frustration
Legacy Media Bias and Inertia
Conspiracy and Secrecy Fuel Public Distrust
| Time | Segment/Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:28 | Opening question: Who posted Epstein’s death on 4chan and why? | | 04:37 | Why was there no follow-up or media digging after the original leak? | | 06:52 | BuzzFeed article review: FDNY's response and lack of findings | | 08:20 | Analysis of media (BuzzFeed) bias and tribal political reporting | | 11:07 | On government lack of transparency and its consequences | | 15:08 | HIPAA violations and minimal institutional investigations | | 16:43 | No comments from the Medical Examiner; speculation on possible leakers | | 19:24 | EMS expert validates technical accuracy of 4chan post | | 22:43 | Summary of how 4chan had all the key details before the media | | 24:00 | Skepticism, lack of transparency, and frustration with authorities | | 26:00 | The enduring mystery and continual emergence of new questions |
Bobby leaves listeners with open questions:
He encourages listeners to weigh in:
Summary:
This episode is a classic example of Bobby Capucci’s style—unfiltered, skeptical, and relentless in his pursuit of unanswered questions surrounding the Jeffrey Epstein case. The show reveals the weaknesses of both institutional accountability and modern journalism, while connecting the dots between new media landscapes (like 4chan) and traditional media failures. The unanswered leak on the morning of Epstein’s death stands as a living symbol of the case’s enduring, murky mystery.