The Epstein Chronicles
Host: Bobby Capucci
Episode: Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain’s Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 10) (3/31/26)
Release Date: March 31, 2026
Episode Overview
This episode continues the in-depth examination of the Office of the Inspector General’s (OIG) interview with an unnamed Metropolitan Correctional Center (MCC) captain regarding the death of Jeffrey Epstein. Host Bobby Capucci walks listeners through newly-released, redacted interview transcripts, pinpointing operational irregularities and failures in oversight the night of Epstein’s death. The main focus is on housing unit procedures, staff responsibilities, and post-incident revelations that raise further questions about the events leading up to and following Epstein’s death.
Key Discussion Points & Insights
1. Shoe (Special Housing Unit) Counts and Assignment Slips
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The episode opens with Capucci reading through the OIG questioning of the captain about “shoe count slips,” focusing on procedures and staff assignments responsible for inmate counts.
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Staff are identified by code names and redacted information, emphasizing the complexity and opacity of documentation.
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Question: “...can we go to the shoe count slips themselves...can you just put an initial by it or circle...which one it is that would have been conducted at the shoe.” (02:00)
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The two primary designations, “ZA” and “ZB,” are established, with “ZA” being the total shoe count and “ZB” more specific to the 10 South unit, where Epstein was housed.
- “So ZA is total SHU, and then you have inmates up on 10 South.” (03:30)
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Staff signatures and responsibilities are dissected, revealing gaps or inconsistencies in who was present and conducted official counts.
- “If that count wasn’t actually conducted, are they the only two responsible for falsifying it, or are there others?”
Captain: “This would be the whole unit, the OIC, everybody that was in the unit.” (04:20)
- “If that count wasn’t actually conducted, are they the only two responsible for falsifying it, or are there others?”
2. Staffing, Responsibility, and Overlapping Duties
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The captain discusses typical staffing, with four staff per unit, each with unique ranges and responsibilities for feeding, monitoring, and rounds.
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Distinctions are made between routine “rounds” and “counts,” emphasizing failure points:
- “So they feed us. They feed the ranges, they monitor the ranges by doing 30-minute rounds...So, if nobody counted, that means who helped assist in counting in 10 South for the five guys?” (05:00)
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The captain attributes the counts and responsibility to the team, making clear that if official counts were skipped or falsified, it implicates everyone assigned.
- “If the overall count was not conducted, everyone was responsible.” (07:45)
3. Falsification and Procedural Failures
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Capucci spotlights the critical admission from the captain that if official counts weren’t conducted, all involved staff bear shared responsibility for that falsification, not just the two whose signatures are on the slip.
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“Because everyone would have known...that it wasn’t conducted.” (07:55)
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The captain distinguishes between “doing rounds” and accurately recording them according to policy, noting the difference between being present to feed and actually performing legally required checks.
- “Just because you’re on the range, that means you did around? A round is physically stopping what you’re doing.” (11:00)
4. Post-Incident Discovery and Accountability
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Following Epstein’s death, the captain describes new directives for camera monitoring and reviewing staff adherence to procedure.
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“We had to monitor the camera footage...and I was appalled to what they were doing on those off hours.” (13:03)
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When questioned about whether counts or rounds were performed on August 9th and 10th, the captain admits that at the time, he presumed they were done, but surveillance reviews revealed otherwise.
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“I was told that the officers...did not do the rounds from the time they walked into the unit until the time they found inmate Epstein deceased in his cell.” (14:10)
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“I would have thought they would have been done. But…now I know.” (14:50)
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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments
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On Staff Responsibility for Falsification
“If the overall count was not conducted everyone was responsible.” (07:45) -
On Distinction Between Rounds and Counts
“So can a round can’t be a count, but can a count be a round?”
Captain: “No.” (12:15) -
On Post-Incident Realization
“When I had to monitor the footage per the new directive...even after we had the situation with Epstein, staff still wasn't doing it right.” (13:55) -
On Appraisal of Staff Conduct
“I was appalled to what they were doing on those off hours.” (13:03)
Timestamps for Important Segments
| Timestamp | Segment Description | |-----------|------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:00 | Introduction – episode focus and context | | 02:00 | Breakdown of SHU (Special Housing Unit) count slips | | 04:20 | Staff responsibility and implications of falsification | | 07:45 | Implications for the whole unit – shared responsibility | | 10:50 | Distinguishing between rounds and official counts | | 13:03 | Captain’s reaction after reviewing surveillance footage | | 14:10 | Acknowledgment of failed procedures the night of death | | 15:50 | Conclusion and episode wrap-up |
Episode Tone and Language
- The tone is serious and methodical, maintaining focus on granular details and official testimony.
- Host Bobby Capucci adopts a direct, no-nonsense approach, giving transparency to the investigation’s findings and sharing reactions verbatim from the interview subject.
- Language is technical, reflective of correctional procedures, yet accessible due to Capucci’s clear narration.
Summary
This episode of The Epstein Chronicles provides a detailed breakdown of OIG interviews with an MCC captain, interrogating the staffing, record-keeping, and oversight failures the night of Jeffrey Epstein’s death. Key insights include frank admissions about falsified inmate counts, systemic accountability, and revelations only discovered in the aftermath through camera surveillance. Capucci emphasizes the gravity of each lapse, underscoring the broader pattern of negligence and procedural breakdown that shrouds one of the most controversial deaths in recent criminal justice history. This installment is essential listening for those seeking transparency in the Epstein case.
