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Question what are we looking for? Answer Non custody. It's not there. Oh, it would have. So somebody went in at some point and if he put non custody, was that somebody trying to cover up? Like, hey, I had nothing to do with that. I wasn't in custody at that time. He put me in there because, you know, why would I do that? You're a lieutenant. Question so it's somebody trying to say, like, hey, he gets cut off by the captain. I don't know. But that's something that we should address with redacted. That's something you've got to do from the time you printed one. Look when you printed one of these rosters, right? I can guarantee you if you go back to the 583 packet and print out the roster for 89 and 810 of 2019, it's not going to mirror the same. It's going to be changed. It's not going to be the same. Question and do we have the ability to do that? Answer. Sure, it should be in the 583. The 583 for the incident that occurred, you understand, for Jeffrey and the incident, those two copies of that roster should be in there. Question okay, good point. We'll go back and look at that. Answer. But you printed a couple of weeks ago. It's not going to say that, but it should. So up to. So just to Clarify, up to 89 that morning, at 8:58am before that time it was redacted. Schedule Answer yeah, that means he called in at 8.58am on August 9 to change it over to redacted. Answer yeah. Question. So I wonder why. Okay, all right. So that's inaccurate. All right. And it says that Lt. Redacted is the one who did the 10pm and 6am shift. Correct. Question it says redacted. Did not personally tell Redacted that Epstein required a cellmate at all times. He believed she was aware because he had informed his lieutenants repeatedly and instructed them to pass this message along and convey the information among themselves. Is that correct? Yes. Redacted. Did not hold a formal all lieutenants meeting regarding Epstein or send an all staff email, the warden's directive. However, you did send emails with Regard to the way that they were supposed to act and their duties and responsibilities. Answer correct question and you'll send me that answer? Yeah. Question okay. He verbally instructed his lieutenants on an informal and individual basis, as many as possible with whom he had the opportunity on Saturday morning, August 10, 2019. Redacted. Was relieved early by redacted. Now, as far as redacted goes, her claiming she didn't. If she's claiming she didn't know and if you didn't specifically tell her, who should have told her or how should she have known? Answer. How she would have known is is that when she did rounds, she would have saw those cards. She would have known that these inmates are high visibility and the guidance was already out, so it was disseminating throughout the unit. So the staff was aware. So of course, probably. And you know, with her we didn't have a good relationship. But regardless of the fact is that I made the lieutenants aware of my expectations. So even though I might not have told her because she worked the morning watch shift and by six she would be gone, I wouldn't see her. Question now, was that abnormal for her to leave before six, before her shift is done? Answer they was working 10 to six, so by the time I walked in the door, she would be gone. Question but what I'm saying is if she's leaving before six, he gets cut off now before six, that would be a problem. Question so even like 10 minutes before, is that a problem? Answer not really. Not really. Because if your relieving person gets there, because knowing the lieutenant, some lieutenants come an hour early, some lieutenants come 10, 15 minutes early. It's just whatever happens, sometimes the lieutenant was late to work because they have an incident or they have an administrative duty that they have to finish after their shift, which is fine, but they are compensated for that. Question. Right. Okay. In the shoe, 30 minute rounds need to be completed consistently at non uniform intervals within a 40 minute time frame. The purpose of these rounds is to ensure that good order is being maintained. There is no suspicious activity and all the inmates are accounted for and responsive. 30 minute rounds are documenting in Truscope, which serves as an electronic logbook. After a round is physically done, the correctional officer can log into Truscope and press a button certifying that the round was completed. Unfortunately, sometimes officers do not complete 30 minute round or exceed the 40 minute threshold. TruScope also documents from that location terminal, the rounds are logged. That's right. Question Redacted is aware of at least two terminals Located in the shoe. The only way to determine if a 30 minute round was physically completed is to check the video surveillance footage. That is correct. There are two correctional officers assigned to the shoe on morning watch at midnight. Shoe 1 and Shoe 2. Shoe 2 is responsible for completing rounds. They're both technically responsible. Correct. Answer Right. Question and so is issue two, usually the officer in charge. Answer Right. So basically what would have happened is they're supposed to, you know, because one has the key. So I do a round, I come back, then you do a round. Same thing when you do a count. Question now, is it the same thing with counts and rounds? Answer no, no, I'm sorry. With the count. Question so with a round, if rounds aren't being conducted, does that also mean that everybody in the unit is to blame? Answer yes. Question okay. Answer Right, because. Because in essence, after hours, the lieutenant should go up there and observe the count. Question no, but what I'm saying is like if a round is signed off on by one person, but everybody in the unit, nobody in the unit did it. And not just the person who signed the round, but also everyone else is also responsible for that falsified round. Right. Question and it's the same thing for counts. Yeah, it don't matter if you're on the roster and you're assigned to that unit and. And a falsified document goes up and you said, like me and you count. I know he didn't count, but I signed that. And you sign it, then we both. He gets cut off by the investigator. What I'm saying is if you sign it, I don't sign it, but we're both responsible. Answer Right. No, you're going to be responsible because you didn't sign it. But if I said I didn't sign it, then I'm going to tell you why I said we didn't do the count. I'm going to put a memo in. I'm going to let the lieutenant know. That's going to be a big situation. Question I guess what I'm saying is like, all right, so in these count slips, specifically, there's two signatures, but there's four people working. So are the other two people that aren't working. If they didn't report it, they're also responsible. Answer yes. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description

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