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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're diving right back in to the unnamed captain and and his interview with the OIG inspectors. Question is having those extra linens and those extras, you know, boxers or whatever, is that a security issue? Answer yeah. Question and why is that a security issue? Question because ultimately that gives the inmates the material to be able to make homemade, fashioned and improvised nooses. Question okay. Answer or the they'll build a TT and use it as an escape paraphernalia just like they did in Chicago. Tie that stuff together. They broke out the window and the inmate had a rope. That's why we don't give inmates excess clothing. Question okay, now as far as this file though, you never found out where those documents went? I couldn't find them. Okay. And when we were saying people that had access to this room, was it just a flood of people at that point coming out? Answer Anybody that the people who would be most know about those files would be the shoe staff. Question the shoe staff. Answer and the lieutenants. Question of course. And what would be in those files that possibly people wouldn't want people to see? Answer I mean the only thing I mean that would be in there, like I said to 292s because you're supposed to do them every day. Question and what are 292s? Answer 292s basically are. It shows the inmates activities in the unit daily. It talks about if the inmate. Anytime the inmate is out of the shoe time, out of cell time. It's annotated on the 292. When the inmate showers, when the inmate exercises, when the inmate eats every meal. Answer now, in your opinion, would it be. Would these documents be missing because they were potentially falsified or because they might show something about the death of Epstein? Answer it would show if he wasn't taking meals and they didn't report it. It would show if the inmate wasn't afforded any outside recreation time or any out of cell time. But we know that he wasn't getting that because he was going to attorney conference. Question okay answer but those forms, no they wouldn't show that the inmate. You know all of that stuff is just administrative stuff that we track for every inmate. Question that's why I'm just trying to figure out what would be the purpose of taking those files. Another inspector chimes in Is there any possibility the file was never updated? Answer by the Captain I don't believe that. Question and who would be updating the files? Just anybody in the shoe. Answer that would be the OIC. Every Sunday you're printing out all the 292s then you put them in the file. Question so on Sundays is it one person that typically gets cut off by the captain? The OICs normally the OIC on morning watch would do that. They would print out all the 292s and they would put them in in each file. Question do you know at this time around the August 9th and August 10th who would have been responsible for those files and printing those out and putting them in? Answer that would have been either the that would have probably been the shoe staff. It would have been either it would have probably had to be Tova Noel. Question Noel would have been Answer because she was assigned to that would have been one of the responsibilities of the shoe one but that would have been on Sunday. Question yeah, Sunday. That's what I'm saying. Do you know up until this point though like so if the file is gone he's now there for what, almost two months? Answer Indiscernible Question Would it be one person responsible or whoever is there on Sunday? Answer she wouldn't have known. So so I mean she wouldn't have that's something unless you're the full time shoe OIC that you wouldn't would be cognizant of. Question okay. Answer she wouldn't know that question so there's that answer. Question for you. If he was put on suicide watch or psych observation, would that file move with him? Answer by the Captain when the inmate goes on suicide watch they create another 292 because he's not in the unit. So that 292 goes down with and is put on the door. Right. So that copy of that 292 yeah that's supposed to go to psychology and the copy is supposed to go back to correctional services to put in his file to be maintained that yeah, he was on suicide watch, this would happen, you know, you tell the story. So yeah, yeah, it would. All of that information would be in there. Question no, but I'm just asking is it possible it went to psych observation or wherever that unit is and never made it back? Answer It's a possibility. Question but then he's made. But it should. Like you were saying, it should have constantly been updated. So from July 30th through August 9th or 10th, there's still to be extra stuff in there. Correct. Alright, so let's keep going here. Redacted Express to redacted that the staff admitted to her they did not complete the rounds. The 3am and 5am counts and that so. And that's all they admitted to was those two, not the ones prior to that. Right. So when I talked to a redacted on the phone, that's what he told me on the phone. Okay. He said hey Cap, the staff told me that they didn't do the rounds. Question. All right. Answer. And I said okay. Question. And that Officer Thomas entered Epstein's cell without supervision. Now what does that mean? Answer that means that anytime, especially in the shoe, anytime, that cell it should have been, especially after hours, a supervisor should have been present. Question. When he went in to do the life saving measures. Right? Answer Yep. Question now, do you know was Thomas in a. Well, were they together and he walked in or was she liked down the range? Answer I believe she was on the down. She was off the tier and he probably went to go do doing the breakfast carts. And by the time it comes down the tier and he comes through. So that means he didn't do around because he would have saw him. Right. So that means he's going around because that's how feed. As soon as we come on, we don't go this way, we go this way. So that cell that Epstein was found in, I think it's like the second from the inn. And so it's like the last cell and when he was in that next cell, right. So they come around the whole area. And when he gets to his cell, you observe the inmate unresponsive. So what you're supposed to do is you call control. Control, hey, I've got an unresponsive inmate. Send staff to the shoe. Or I've got an unresponsive inmate. Please state the medical emergency. Send someone to the shoe. Redacted to ops. Hey, I need you to come to special housing unit. Boom. You come up there, you got a staff because you don't know if it's a ruse. You just pop down the door and just go in there. You're putting yourself in jeopardy. Question now, does this create suspicion for you the fact that he went in there by himself? Answer I've seen a lot of stuff at MCC as far as with security protocol. I have written staff up for violations of security protocol. That instance right there, what he did wouldn't be uncommon. Question. Okay, answer. Because you try to tell people how to react in emergency situations and guess what? Everybody is not going to say how they're going to react. But we do tell them. If you're going in the special housing unit, you need to wait until a supervisor comes on the scene before you pop a door in the shoe. Now do you know how he was found? Was he hanging? I don't know how he was found.