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Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 8) (3/29/26)
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This deposition comes from an unnamed captain at the Metropolitan Correctional Center and provides a detailed account of how Jeffrey Epstein was managed inside the facility, particularly in the Special Housing Unit. The captain describes Epstein’s...
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Casino what's up everyone and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode we're going to pick up where we left off with the unnamed captain from the MCC and his interview with with the OIG investigators. Question all right, Inmates, cellmates and are typically the people that are assigned to the shoe. Are they in those three shifts or would you have hit the people that are assigned between that time period? So point being, maybe you don't remember specifically I had a conversation with that person. Or that person. Or that person. But if they're assigned to the shoe, not a temporary duty assignment like an OT type of assignment, but the people that were assigned there, that was their duty too. He cuts them off and answers so like I remember specifically I hit day watch. Redacted. I remember Redacted. Whatever his name, I remember these guys. I know I spoke to Redacted. I know I spoke to different guys. The shoe staff that was always up there. Question but you just don't specifically remember talking to Noel. Answer no. Question okay. Answer. She might have been in the background somewhere. Question Right. Answer she could have been there. I don't know. Question. But redacted. Should have spoken with her. Answer of course. Question okay, Answer. Because that's part of. That's part of the expectations of the unit. If I give you guidance, your guidance should have been disseminated down to the officers. Okay, how about the people? So we were going to get into this later, but since we're conversing about it now, it looks like Reyes was moved. I think his appointment with court was at like 8:30 and he was gone from the institution by like 150. Does that sound right? Answer Something like that. It could have been. Question so who was in the shoe at that time, if he's gone from the institution by like 1:50pm who would have he gets cut off? Answer so that would have been all of your six to two and your eight to four staff. Question okay, so I guess let's go from the top. Who would have been the person in charge at the top level? Answer that. I mean as far as that would have been chew one because he would have gotten the notice that he was supposed to move the guys. Question and who was that? Answer and move the inmate. Question and who was that? Answer it was redacted Question and what time was he working from? Answer he was working from 8 to 4. Question so he was 8 to 4 and those times are accurate on there. And if some lieutenant said oh we, you know, it says 0 to 8, but we're actually 10pm gets cut off. Answer and that's true. But the officers work those prescribed shifts. Question okay, Answer the lieutenant was given those shifts because of their commutes. Question okay, Answer Some of them were commuting two hours out. So for them to come from various parts of Jersey or Long island, you know, as a consensus, we said, hey, I will continue because that was the previous administration, the previous captain put that in for those guys. So, you know, with those conversations, you know, with the lieutenants, I said I'll keep that. I said, you know, you try to do things where I come from, where we didn't do those things, you know, as far as that, you know, the captain ran his shifts. Whatever the shift was, you did it. But when I came to Brooklyn, that was a common practice in Brooklyn. You know, the captain would allow them, when I was the lieutenant would allow for us, you know, to work those shifts. And due to we've got a staff that commute far out. So that was just an incentive to get these guys to come to work, you know. Question sure. Answer so yes. Question but the times for these, the shoe staff, that's the actual hours that listed on that Answer but for the line staff, the line staff, that roster correctly imitates their schedule. Question Perfect. So who then I guess you said they would be working until 4pm Answer right. Question so they would have at least two hours to be able to do something. Answer Right. Question and who was it that was on that day? Answer so I had redacted, I had redacted, I had redacted and I had redacted. Question and did you speak with all of those individuals about the need for a cellmate? Answer I believe I did because they were day watch, but like I said it wouldn't have been on August 9th. Question right. Answer it would have been on the unit. Question okay. Answer for that quarter. So once I got the guidance from redacted of what he wanted me to do, I moved on and did it. So I can't tell you, but I know I spoke the day watch shoe staff. Question sure. Answer they was the first ones I spoke to. Question so who then out of there, who would have the shoe staff reported the matter to? Answer the what now? Question so the shoe staff that's in there, they know that he doesn't have a cellmate and the cellmate is not coming back. Answer okay, so they would have known that he wasn't coming back until probably evening watch. Question okay, so you don't think that those guys would have known? Answer no, they wouldn't have known because I don't know when the inmate left the institution. But what happens is when the court line comes out, I believe that the inmates leave the institution. Supposed to between six and eight or seven, you know, let's say seven to nine. So between that time, those inmates are. They're picked up and then they're transported to a court. Question okay, so what time did redacted work? What was his shift? Answer redacted was 8 to 4. So if we can, let's assume for this instance that redacted knows that he needs a cellmate, right? Question what should he have done? Probably wouldn't have known. But let's just say for this instance that he did know. So if he knew, he knew that he needed a cellmate and he knew that the cellmate wasn't coming back, he probably wouldn't. But what I'm trying to tell you, sir, he probably wouldn't have known. Question I know, but in this instance, I'm just saying. Let's just say that he did. Answer okay, so the instance of that would have happened. What would have happened was he should have, okay, this guy is not coming. He should have notified me. Question okay, answer and should have been like, hey, Cap. Hey, Reyes, Epstein's cellmate. Hey, he went to court. He's not coming back. Question and he did not. Answer no. Question okay. Answer no one later informed me that the inmate had even went to court. I didn't even know he went to the court because guess what? During the time this inmate is in court, Epstein is an attorney visiting all day. Question sure. Answer so nobody would have even thought about it because, oh, Epstein is in the attorney visiting. His cellmate is not in there. Okay, his cellmate went to court, nobody would have been made aware that he didn't have a cellie until they went to put him in physically inside of the cell. Question okay, so when do you think it would have been in this instance? When do you think it would have come up? Answer as far as knowing he didn't have a cellie? Question Correct Answer Somebody should have known when he didn't come. That should have been on evening watch.
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So he was on Evening Watch. So. Evening Watch. Well, let's see here. You're talking about the OIC in the shoe. Yeah, that would have been redacted. Okay, so. And who should have he reported the matter to? He should have reported it to the operations lieutenant. And who was the operations lieutenant at the time. I believe the lieutenant would have been. That would have been redacted. All right. And redacted again. You no one told you so obviously redacted. Didn't tell you so okay. And would redacted. Gone directly to redacted. Answer yeah, he would have called redacted. But guess what? I was there. I didn't leave that night until like 8, 8 something. I was there until 8 that night. And you did not visit the SHU that night though, correct? I can't remember. All right. I I'm not going to say I did or I did make that rounds that day or I didn't. I don't know. Question yeah. Answer But I know I didn't leave that institution until late that night. Question and you know though that Reyes you were never aware on that day, August 9th that Reyes you didn't even know he went to court, let alone he wasn't coming back. Answer Correct Question all right. And redacted. Is somebody that you did have a conversation with with regard to the need for a cellmate. Correct. Answer I don't know if I again talking to people in all three shifts do I remember Redacted. Working in the unit? Yeah, but as you're talking to people I don't remember that. Hey, I talked. There are certain people that I can't remember that I spoke specifically to. Question. Right. Answer as opposed to some people you know could have been in the area. That's why I can't I know I talked to the day watch shoe staff for sure. Question okay. Answer and I mention those names. I talked to those guys. Question so but redacted should have certainly have told them. Answer yes. Question so he's in the office in charge. Who else was on that day? Answer you had to well and she was the number two and then you had redacted Tova Noel. Correct? Answer yeah Question okay, answer Noel and then you had redacted with SHU3 that day and then you had shoe 4 was not assigned question okay, so those three people were in the shoe. So was it ultimately the officer in charge responsibility or should have these other two redact and Noel have taken any action, should have contacted anyone? Answer well, if you're walking and you're doing rounds in the unit, you would see especially at the four count because you need to know where all your inmates are. So at the four count. And where is Epstein? Epstein is at he's in the attorney visiting because I'm going to get a counselip from the attorney visiting, right. Where's Reyes. Reyes is out to court. Then somebody should have called R D. Indiscernible. Where is this guy at? Somebody should have called R and D. That means the lieutenant would have been notified because you can't clear the count. Where's the inmate at? Question Right. Answer so if you can't clear the count, where is the inmate? The inmate went out, but it's now 4 o'. Clock. But I did say that sometimes inmates come back on the 4 o'. Clock. So they call that ghosting. Supposedly he's supposed to be at court. But did you get a count slip from court? No. When he leaves out of the institution, that that's on them. So that means the institution number should have came down. Minus one. Question so you believe that the shoe should have known by 4pm during the 4pm count? Answer yeah, Question all right, and let's in this case, if they didn't do a count at 4pm should they have somehow known otherwise after that? So would someone have contacted them and said, by the way, this guy is not coming back? Answer Right. So that means that the 4 o' clock count, when you're going through the unit, he gets cut off. Question but if you didn't do a 4pm count, let so let's just say in this instance that they didn't do a 4pm count. Answer nobody would know. So unless they do the count, they don't even know that the guy is not coming back. Question Answer that's right. Question so no one is calling them and saying, by the way, your guy that went to court, he's not coming back. Answer Right Question okay, answer. Because, you know, I told you before, sometimes inmates go to court and they don't come back. The only time you're going to know is when these guys always come back from the court line by four. Question okay, answer but sometimes they don't come back at 4. All right, folks, we're gonna wrap up right here and in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're gonna pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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