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Inside The OIG Interview: MCC Captain's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 9) (3/30/26)
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This deposition comes from an unnamed captain at the Metropolitan Correctional Center and provides a detailed account of how Jeffrey Epstein was managed inside the facility, particularly in the Special Housing Unit. The captain describes Epstein’s...
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What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up where we left off with the unnamed captain and his interview with the OIG inspectors. Question now, what was their time shift? Was it 4pm to midnight? Answer who? Question the people we were just talking about. The evening watch. Answer yeah, there. Yes, four to midnight. Question so 4pm to midnight. that point, if it was recognized that there was no cellmate and he needed a cellmate, could have, if they did contact the ops lieutenant. Ops lieutenant did contact you, could have an inmate been assigned at that time or would that have to wait till the next day? Answer well, I would have done if I would have known right then and there that he didn't have a cellmate. He's already an attorney visiting, right? Question Yep. Answer so I would have went on ahead. All right, keep him in attorney visiting. I would have called. Guess who I would have called? I would have called the AW to let him know. Well, redacted. And I would have called the warden. I would have said, hey, look, this guy went out the WAB today or Reyes didn't come back from court. We got to vet another guy. Question okay, answer and that's what would happen. And plus, I was there at 8. So let's say he got released from attorney visiting and he didn't go back. And when they went to let's say, hey, this dude, he don't have a cellmate. I I would have been like, hold up. I would have said because I got R and D staff down there, right? Because I can't put them on suicide watch. I can't put them on close supervision. So I would have said, hey, quarter this guy right now in R D. Put a staff member on it, which would have been Fox 1. Put him in on Fox 1. Put a staff member down there. Let me call the warden. Question what does FOX one mean? Answer that means that's R and D. Okay? That's the cell assignment. I believe it would have been Fox 1. Just I can't put him on suicide watch. Question Right. And in FOX one people monitor at all times. Answer no, but I would have had somebody monitor him. I would have had, hey, put a staff member down there and watch this guy until we get him a cellmate. Question okay, and you think that the same day, August 9, he would have had a cellmate if you were made aware? Answer yeah, if I was made aware, he would have. He would have got a cellmate. Question okay, now let's go back and say if redacted did know and didn't tell anybody, he didn't tell you, he didn't tell Redacted. Is he the one he gets cut off by the captain, he dropped the ball. Answer or question right? Answer because again, let's like I told you about count and made a good statement, then how did you clear the count? Question huh. So the two people that so if redacted knew and he didn't tell anybody, he dropped the ball. But at the same time, if the 4pm count was conducted, they would have then raised the issue with redacted. Answer right Question so there would have been two checks there. Answer Right question and if not, it would have also happened at the 10pm count as well. Answer right question so if the 4pm count, the 10pm count were both conducted, there would have been notice. Hey, no cellmate bring it up to redacted. Answer Correct Question all right, so if redacted didn't know, redacted didn't tell him. So redacted dropped the ball. The shoe staff dropped the ball, it looks like. Answer Right Question okay, before we move on from that, you want to talk about anything specific to that notion? Answer no. Question okay. Answer can we take a break? Question Absolutely. All right, so they take their break, then they come back. Question all right, so what we are talking about before, before we move on, I just want to go back to so you said if redacted knew he dropped the ball, if the shoe staff didn't do their counts at 4pm and at 10pm that's when they would have next found out that Epstein was without a cellmate and they would have then reported it Up Answer Question Correct. What did we want to follow up with on that one? Answer if a notification came from the court that Reyes wasn't coming back, who would have got the notification? Answer that notification would have came through R D and through the control center, which the control center would have updated the count in sentry to reflect if the inmate was physically in the institution or was still out in the court. So it would be contingent to look at the sentry roster, which would be the E1 that the control center had created for those counts, to find out if Reyes was still on the count as physically being in the institution or out to court. Question okay, and if R D in control did get that notification, did they have to notify the shoe? Answer yeah, because then the count would be off. Question if let's just say that the notification came between one and three, who in the shoe would have been notified? Answer the oic, which would have been for the day watch. It would have been either redacted or redacted. Question and what should they have done? Answer and with that one time, they would have reflected on inside of sentry, and. And also they would have known that the inmate was not physically there, and they would have had notified the operations lieutenant that this guy didn't come back. So that means somebody would have had to make sure that the institutional count was right or wrong. Question so in this instance, if redacted knew, who would have been the one that would have been informed? Answer that would have been the one that have been either redacted or redacted would have notified them. But then I also said that redacted worked in the capacity of of oic, because a lot of those officers would say, oh, I don't have the ability to log on into the program, so he would do double duties. Question okay, so let's say that the shoe staff that time did notify. Redacted. Let's say that Redacted now didn't take any action. Okay, now let's say that the next shoe staff comes on board, should they continue to report the matter up the chain? Answer yeah. Question Even though the shoe that replaced them already made the notification that Epstein was without a cellmate and needed a new one. Answer because their count would have been off and then they wouldn't have known that, you know, when they brought him back from attorney visiting, that the cell was empty. Question Right, And I'm not specifically talking about the count right now. What I'm saying is, like, if the shoe did notify. Redacted, hey, Epstein is required to have a cellmate, and his cellmate is gone. We need to get him a new one. Redacted. Now never takes any action. Should the shoe later that day made the same notification to in this case to redacted. Hey, Epstein still hasn't been reassigned to cellmate, Correct? Okay, so the shoe may have done it right at day watch and redacted got the notification, but the shoe on the night watch gets cut off by the captain. Did. Didn't do it. Answer didn't do it. And they should have. Answer. Because he was an attorney visiting. So they said, oh, it was an empty cell. We said, okay, yeah, Epstein is still at attorney visiting. Nobody would have cared about the cellie because they would have thought that he was still out at court. Question okay. Answer but if he did come back by eight that night, somebody would have said something. Answer or question no. Now let's go even further from now we go from evening watch to now morning watch. We're on August 10th where Noel and Thomas are now in there. Answer Correct. Question should they have made the notification to redacted? Answer they wouldn't have known. Question all right, so they should have gets cut off by the captain. They would have been in the unit with the assumption that all of the inmates have been accounted for by the previous shift because. Because the count didn't go wasn't bad. Question so that's the 12am 3am and 5am Answer correct. Question Are you saying they don't really need to do those counts? Answer no, no, no, I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is they wouldn't have not have known that the inmate didn't come back from court if it wasn't addressed on either at day watch or evening watch. Question okay, Answer they wouldn't know. They would just can't be responsible for counting what what inmates was housed in that unit between the hours of 12 to 5. Because those are the three counts. So, yeah, let's see. These are the three counts. Let's look. Question so the 5 o' clock 1 Answer all right, so I got the 5 o'. Clock. It looks like we got the 5, the 10, the midnight, the 3, the 5. And then is this the rounds? Answer yeah, that's the control question. The control answer yeah, we don't want this. I'll take this Question okay, so here are the counts from August 9, from 4pm through August 10 through 5am okay. Question now, we have reason to believe that the 4:00pm, the 10:00pm, the 12:00am and the 3:00am and the 5:00pm none of them were conducted. Answer okay, so what you're saying that the 4:00pm count for August 9th was not done and the 10 wasn't done. Answer and the 10. Nor was the 12, the 3 or
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Now, is there a way to look at that? If there is someone, let's say, because at this 12am count, you'll notice there's a discrepancy. There is one inmate there's off by control says, hey, you're off by one. Is there a way to kind of look at these counts and notice, all right, this would have been picked up then? Or a way to kind of just tell that these weren't conducted by just looking at the documents or noticing if, you know, if Reyes is gone by 150, you know he's released. Is there a way to tell that? Because you've got it right here. Answer. Okay, question this is the form right there. This will tell you who the inmates are. Out of count. Question okay, answer. And that's from Small. He was one of the receiving and discharged employees that was probably working on August 9th. Question okay, answer. So she would know who was still out at count. So that means operations lieutenant didn't even sign it. That's a violation. Question so this document that you're looking at, it looks like, what is it like the third page on there? Answer yeah, that, that should have been. Because you've got it right there. Clark. Unassigned work assignments. So this inmate Clark, that's saying he's out of court. Question. Okay, answer. So now our count is minus one, but we know where he is because he's still out at court. So Reyes, that count. So if he went out to court, let's say we was at 88. Let's just say when he went out to court, him and Clark went out, he would have went down to 86. But guess what? Reyes drops off the count. How he got released. Question. So if he was released, gets cut off by the captain. Form that should have come from the marshals back to us saying that he got released. Question. So between 10am and the 4pm count, would there have been a form in there showing that he was released? There should have been. Question. Okay, that should have been generated from the marshals because it's a transfer order. You heard of a transfer order every time an inmate goes off? If you've got 10 that went out to court that day, that's the transfer order, whatever the disposition of those inmates are, okay? Boom. Ten went out to count, eight coming back. Okay, where are the other two? Okay, I got this guy that's still out of counted. And, and he's at court. He's still at whatever at this time frame. Where's Reyes? There should have been a transfer receipt signed by the marshals, by the staff that was at the New York court over there, the people that handled the inmates. That transfer order should have been sent back with whoever was transporting the inmates and brought back to the institution to say that this guy never came back. Question. So the third page that you're saying, though, that was a violation that the operations lieutenant didn't sign? Answer. Right. Question Would that have been redacted or redacted at the time? Answer. Because all the staff, it's called a 30 day file. Answer. So what the lieutenants are supposed to do on their shift is supposed to. When they make rounds in control, they're supposed to. Because we're supposed to take count on every shift, especially in the off hours. So before Epstein, that was a responsibility. On the off hours, you'll be responsible for taking count. So that evening watch guy would take the 10 count, right? Or somebody, somebody would take the 4 o' clock count. So the operations lieutenant or the activities would normally go down and take the four. They would go through the paperwork for that day up to 4 o' clock, and you would sign all the forms. Like if somebody checked out keys, restricted key forms, Operations is supposed to sign it. Question. Answer. If the transfer order receipts come back, you're supposed to sign it. Whatever happens on that shift, you're supposed to sign the count, slips that form right here that should have been signed by the lieutenant. Question. Okay, so these forms that we're looking at 4pm There is a number of signatures that are missing. Answer. Yeah. Question. And should have that been the lieutenant, as in it looks like redacted answer. Official preparing count. Official taking count. Those are going to be. So the person that was taking the count would have been the oic. Then the person who actually was there as a lieutenant that was taking the count, normally we would sign it in the end or in red. Question. Now, the lieutenant, when you say that they're there, aren't they in the control center? Answer they're in the control center while the officers are doing count. Question. Okay, so the shoe calls in, says we got count 72, 73, 74, whatever it is. And in this case, when you look at the 4pm though, you're seeing that there was no lieutenant that signed off on that answer. No. Question. So on the first page as well as the third page was there, they should have signed answer. Right. Question. All right. And then gets cut off. Yeah, because I got to look, I got a signature for this one that was approved by the operations lieutenant right here. Question. And to a zed Answer that's I don't know who that signature is. Question. All right, it looks like redacted would have been on duty. Is that the time? Question or answer that's going to be 4:00pm Whoever took the 4:00pm that lieutenant would have been redacted. All right, folks, we're going to stop right here. And in the next episode, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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