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Answer Some have self carrying medicines. Question all right, and so that and that's not abnormal for them to have their own pill bottles and things like that in the shoe? Answer no. Question what can an inmate have in their cell in the shoe? Answer T shirt, boxers, washcloths, a towel, depending on what the season, Two blankets, two sheets Question so they can have two blankets and two sheets? Answer Dependent on the weather. Question okay. Answer and how much is available? Question what about August? How many blankets and sheets could have they had? Answer how many could they have had? Question or are they allowed to have had? Answer it depends. Some of them, it depends. If they say hey let me keep it two and two. Let them keep it. Question okay Answer I say, hey, you need to, you know, they go down to one Question Would it never be authorized to have more than two each? Answer how many? Like an extra blanket or something? Answer yeah, like if three blankets or four blankets. Answer I know, I don't know about four, but an extra blanket, I heard that. Especially in the winter time. Depending on the cells. Question what about in August? Answer an extra blanket? Question or extra linen? Answer no. Question yeah, what about extra clothing? Answer I mean it wouldn't be authorized, but they could get It. Question how would they get it? Answer. They could get it. They could fish it themselves. Inmates. Question. You mean they can like throw a cord over like he gets cut off by the lieutenant? Yeah. Question all right. And would that be caught on the cell search if they were being conducted though? Answer not all the time. Question no. Answer no. Question and how would they miss that? Answer. What if they don't search the solve today? Question no, I'm saying during the cell searches, like if they search the cell. Question. If they see the fishing line. Yeah. Question no, no. If they see a fishing line. But if the cell is being searched, he gets cut off by the lieutenant. And it has excessive linen. Question and it has. Would they take it at that point? Answer yeah, usually they take it. Question okay. Anything else? They're allowed to have books, food. Yeah. Alright. Do you know if Epstein was given any special privileges to have extra clothing or extra linen? No. No. Do you know if he had extra clothing or extra linen? No. Who was making sure that Epstein had the correct amount of clothing and linens? Not sure. Would it be like the shoe staff or the lieutenant or all of the above? The shoe Lieutenant I'm not sure. Working in the shoe though, or previously, you don't know who would he gets cut off by the lieutenant. Who is monitoring it? I mean the inspector jumps in like who would be. Who's responsible? Not let sounds like looks like no one was monitoring it. But who was actually responsible to make sure him and these guys aren't supposed to have that many, that much clothing or linen. Answer I'm not sure because when we used to do linen, you give them three, I give you three. That's how we used to monitor it. Question yes. It's supposed to be like a one for one exchange. Answer yeah, so I don't know who's responsible to keep an eye on his things though. I gets cut off. Typically, who provides the inmates with their linens? The investigator asks. Answer staff. Question do lieutenants ever do that? Answer no, not really. Question so it would be the staff that's responsible then? Answer yeah, that's why I say indiscernible responsibility. I guess. Then question okay. Does the shoe lieutenant ever do it? Answer I mean it could. I could if I wanted to. Question yeah, but typically would it be the shoe staff? Answer yeah. Question okay. Any idea how Epstein's interactions would were with other inmates? Did he ever have interactions with other inmates? Really? I don't know. I know when he first got there, he told me some guy, he was nervous because his Face was on the TV and guys might try to intimidate him. That's about it though. Question. That was something he, Epstein specifically told you? He told the officer and then the officer told me. He said, hey, I didn't know who he was. I was like, alright, let me look into it. And then they moved him. Where was he? He was on his first unit, I think was 11 north. So he was in general population when he first got here? Yeah. Alright, so people that tell us that he was in the shoe the entire time are incorrect. When he first got through, he was in general population. And for how long was he in general pop? Answer. Say about a day or two. Question. Are you the one that actually moved them into the shoe? Answer. No. Question. Who did that? Answer. I don't know. Question. All right, but an officer reported it to you and then you he gets cut off by the lieutenant. Yeah, I know he was in general population. Question. And what did you do with the information when that was told? Answer. What? Question. You said an officer said he's worried about safety. Answer. Yeah, I spoke to him. Question. You spoke to Epstein? Answer. I wanted to know. I said what was going on. I said, all right, we're going to look into this. And then they moved them. Question. Okay. Answer. Yeah. Question. But I guess my question was, did you report that information to someone and then it was a person? Answer. I don't remember. I know I passed it on. I said, hey, this guy, I think he's high profile. Question. Okay. Answer. Look into it. I think by the captain or someone got together and they moved them, put him in a place in the shoe. Question okay, and when was the last time you interacted with Epstein? Answer. I can't recall. Question. Did you have any interaction with him on August 9? Answer. I could have. I don't know. He's right there on the floor. So I could have. Question. But you don't know. So again, dude dies the next day, you can't remember if the day before you talked with this guy when it's like the biggest case ever? Answer. Yeah. Question. You don't remember. Answer. Huh? Because I brung him up to the shoe a few times, but I don't know if I did that day. Question. I'm just saying that kind of sparks a little suspicion. Answer. I know what you're saying. Question. It's like if. It's like you can't even remember the last if you talk to him on that day, the day before. I mean, it's a big case, I get that, but I Mean, you know, I have a job like, you know. Question yeah, I mean I'm just saying that's going to create a little bit. He gets cut off by the lieutenant. Yeah, but I can't remember if I spoke to that dude that day. Question do you remember when the last time you saw him? Answer no. I'm probably assuming that day if he was in attorney conference. Question Is that because you would have visited attorney conference? Answer yeah, the elevator is right there on the third floor here. Attorney conference is there. If I wait right here in the elevator, I see him, he's in the same room every day. Question but you can't remember if you actually spoke with him on that day? Answer no. Question Would you typically speak with him when he was in the attorney conference? Answer the only time I used to speak with him is if to say hey, you can bring this. Hey, you going to shoe? Can you take them up? All right, come on. Question all right, now the other investigator jumps in. Can I ask a question on that Question yeah, please do. Question Just in case, I mean I know you said that you don't remember, but that's his last day. That's the last time you saw him. Do you remember who he was with that day? Answer his lawyers. Question do you remember his demeanor? Answer no Question Was he upset? Was he yelling? Did he complain about anything? Answer he used to sleep a lot. That's all I know. Sometimes you see him in there, he's just lying on the table, his lawyer is right there. Question While he's with his attorneys. Answer he was there. He used to be there from eight in the morning all day to a watch and evening watch. Question around what time would he show up there? Answer early, he'd be the first one there. Question and what time would that be? Answer 8 to 8:30. Question and then what time would he typically go back to the shoe? Answer before or attorney conference over at 8, so about 8. Question so basically 8am to 8pm and who are the people that would take them to the attorney conference and then bring them back to the shoe? Answer I told you, like I said, I done it sometimes. Question yeah. Answer but typically they get the guy ready in shoe, bring him down. If R D's out there, hey, we gotta move him, you know, I'll take him down, whoever's going that way. Did you ever take him there to attorney conference or back to the shoe on August 9th? I don't think so, I can't recall. Were you still at the MCC at around 8pm on August 9? No, I wasn't there at 8. Question and what time do you believe that you left MCC on August 9? Answer between two and four question so sometime between two and four. Answer yeah. Question but you weren't back. So he was in attorney conference all that time. So the last time you possibly could have interacted with him would have been around 8am Correct. Answer I mean interacting, like talking to him? Question Speaking with him. Answer yeah, I don't think I. I can't recall if I spoke. I don't think I spoke to him. I'm not sure if I did or if I didn't.