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Inside The OIG Interview: The Testimony Of An Unnamed R&D Officer From MCC (Part 2) (5/8/26)
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An unnamed correctional officer assigned to the Receiving and Discharge unit at the Metropolitan Correctional Center in New York was interviewed by the Department of Justice Office of Inspector General on July 15, 2021 as part of the federal...
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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to dive right back in to the interview given by the R D officer from MCC to the OIG investigators. Question. Okay. Do you recall who your supervisor was when you worked at the MCC on August 9th and 10th? I would only know by looking at this roster. Redacted. Lieutenant. Redacted. Question so you report only to Redacted. Or do you report to any other co he gets cut off by the R D officer? No, she's the only supervisor on duty during that time. Question during the night and so both days it was midnight to 8am Answer yeah. Question okay. Was she the only supervisor? Yeah. Are you familiar with inmate Jeffrey Epstein? Yes. Did Jeffrey Epstein have a cellmate? Yes, he did. Question do you know who it was? I don't know. But I know the inmate went out to court, I believe, Friday and didn't come back from court. I don't know if he got released from court, but he didn't come back to the institution that day. Question how do you know that? Answer Because I work in R D. Question so is this from your knowledge from working in R and D that day or on a later date? My knowledge of working in R D that day. Question okay, so that's because according to this you were in R D. I was in rd. Question I mean you're in internal. Answer Right, but this is midnight. My hours in R and D is from 12 to 8. Question 12 to 8. So did you work later in the shift? So that redacted beyond the schedule at all? You're not going to be on this roster. It's not going to show you as 12 to 8. Answer custody has a different roster from my department roster. Question okay Answer so you're not going to see my department. My department hours would be that what you see on that timesheet is this considered overtime. So anything here where it says additional this is overtime because you see the two shifts, the eight up here and the eight at the bottom. Question okay answer and that's 16 hours for the day. Question so I'm going to go back and clarify. On August 9th you worked from midnight to 8am and you were internal yes. Question and then after that what was your next shift? That was Saturday the next day that would be midnight the next shift. Question okay Answer these are all midnight shifts. Question Midnight shift But did you work regular shifts those days? August 9th and August 10th? Answer in my department, yeah. R D Answer if it's Friday and Thursday or a Friday and a Saturday. A Saturday I wouldn't be in my department. No. Question what about Friday? Answer Friday I'm in my department yes, because my department is Monday through Friday. Question and what's your regular time? Answer 12 to 8 I believe I was working 12 to 8. Question that's midnight to 8, right? But midnight to 8. Answer no no 12pm in the afternoon 12 to 8pm Question to 8pm so according to this you were in Internal from I August 9th from midnight to 8am Then there was a four hour break. Are you saying that there was a four hour break and then you work from he gets cut off by the guard. I'm not sure right here based on this because I might have been working 2 to 10 because I had to do 12 to 8 or 2pm to 10pm so based on this this says regular base. This might have been from the day shift because it says regular base. So this might have been I work midnight to 8 in the morning and then maybe 8 to 4 in my department, because I don't see. Well, I don't record my duty hours in my department at that time. It's been a while. Yeah. I'm sorry. Question. But to follow up, you said that you knew that Epstein's cellmate had left because you were working in rd, so you probably want to follow up with that. So we key inmates in and out to court. So that. Soreyes, how did you first come to learn that he left because we have to key them out to go to court. I mean, I don't know, actually, at the moment that he was Epstein's cellmate, but when the comment came up that his bunky, they moved his bunky, they put him in a cell by himself. And when we learned who that specific inmate was, that's how I became aware that, no, this guy went to court, and he was released from court. Wherever he got removed to never came back from court. Question what do you mean they moved his bunky to a separate cell? Answer, they kept saying Epstein was put in a cell by himself. He didn't have a cellmate. That was not the case. He did have a cellmate, but he got released from the court or wherever it is the marshals took him to, and that he didn't come back to mcc. But off the top, to say, I knew that was actually his cellmate. I didn't know that until we became aware of who the inmate was that that got released and went to court. Because we don't know who inmate cellmates are just by working in R D. We just know their bed assignment and what unit they're coming in from. Question no. Working in R D. Are you familiar with someone or something called the court list? Answer yeah. Question. Was Intimate Reyes's name on the court list? Answer yeah. Question, do you recall? Answer, yeah, Because. Because I think that's the guy that we keyed out to court. Okay. And what is a court list? A court list is something we get from the marshals. They'll send us over just a roster of names of inmates to appear for production to the court, either going out on an rit, being transferred to another jail. A court list consists of whatever type of movement that the marshals want the inmates for. It could be appearing before a proffer to tell on somebody. It could be whatever it is that they need them to appear for court production for. Question. How do the marshals send it over? Answer. They always email it or fax it. Question. Who receives the email? Answer. Everybody in R D. Question, do you recall who was working in R&D that day? Answer no. Question Everybody receives it? Answer yeah, everybody in R D receives it. But I couldn't say off the top of my head, okay, oh, this person worked. I don't remember who worked with me that day. Question so everybody that actually is in R D, you all get the same courtsheet, so it doesn't matter who was working that day or not? Answer Right. Question Everybody would have gotten it. Do you recall receiving the email? Answer I don't recall receiving the email, but I know we had a court list. Question who creates the court list? Answer Whoever is doing movement. Question and what? So you just mentioned all the inmates that listed on there anything for movement. And the marshall send it over and they email it and what do you get? Answer. Email or fax, you said, right? Answer yeah, email or fax? Well, I believe they were doing both email and faxing at the time. Question. So you get both? Answer yeah. Question and once the list comes over, who did you say creates the court list? Answer the movement officer. If the movement officer is not there, whoever is filling in, it might be somebody in the front desk, just someone in the department. They'll fill out or complete the court list, put in a call out and get it prepared. So overnight the officer who is internal can pass it out to the housing unit so that the inmates are aware when they wake up the next day. Or the officer can say, hey, I got this inmate. I have got to get him ready for court the next day. Question who is the movement officer? Answer I don't know. I don't know who the movement officer was at the time. I don't know. Question when you say a movement officer, are you talking about control? Answer no. Question. I mean internal. Answer no R D. Question. R D movement officer. Answer we have different positions. Yeah. Question okay, we have different positions in R D where everybody had a different function. Question okay, so is the movement officer in R D? Basically, like, will they go into internal with indiscernible? Answer no. They are like, they prepare the transfer order if inmates are moving out of the institution. Question. So they're doing the background of what the internal guy does? Almost. Answer. They don't have anything to do with internal. Question okay, because. Okay, sorry. It's making more things more indiscernible.
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to play social casino void where prohibited. Visit spinquest.com for more details. Answer Nothing to do with internal. It's just preparing inmates to move out of the institution, preparing the production list for inmates for a unit, for a list to be disseminated to the housing units for the officers to know what inmate has to appear in court the next day. The movement officer might draft up, get or compile like a medical summary, transit order, anything that they need to put together for an inmate to be released to move out of the institution to be transferred. That's what the movement officer does. Do you recall what your position was in the R and D that day? I might have been rd, okay, I might have been R and D. I might have. I don't believe I was movement, but I might have been R D. Question so as R D, what would you have taken care of? Answer Court movement, inmates going in and out, keying them in and out, getting inmates down to my area to get prepared for court, tracking inmates going out to the hospital, keying inmates going out to the hospital, keying inmates coming back. Basically I'd be responsible for like inmates leaving in and out of the institution and preparing them to get out of the institution. We can take a step back. When did the marshal's list normally come over? Did they send it over the night before? Yeah, evening before or they send it the morning of evening before? Around what time? I think it's always around. It's approximately between. I would say between three and five. Yeah, like three and five, something like that. Around that time frame. It's not like a set time. It's whoever does it and faxes it over and emails it. But it was about maybe like three and five or between three and six, something like that. Question and then once R D receives it, you guys prepare a court list. Answer yeah. Question and what does it state on that court list? Answer it's just a document, like a sentry created document that shows the inmate's name, his name, his housing unit, if he has a separate indiscernible in the institution and what time he has to come down to R D to move out for court, whether it'll be that he has court in the AM or court in the pm. Question okay, and would it state like let's say if an inmate was leaving and not coming back, would it state it on there? Answer yeah, it would say wab, but most often times pre trial is because. Because they're not our inmate. They're a marshal's inmates. The marshals can move them at any given time and just forward us back a disposition of the inmate leaving. Inmate so and so is released to probation. Here's a cut slip for you guys and your file. Then we can go ahead and key them out. But we don't key inmates out. WAB if they're going to court, we key them out. At the time we're doing what was considered an outcount, we weren't keying inmates out, but were keying them on an outcount. So we know that we have an account of who went to court and we have an account of who came back from court. Question so you're saying that you guys wouldn't remove the inmate completely from the from the count and would just leave them under the outcount? Answer yeah, we could only remove them if prior to that list. When he got the list, it says transfer wab, we're sending them somewhere to Brooklyn or he's going back to the state that night. Before we would know. We would know that. But sometimes at the spur of the moment, things might arise. A judge might give a person time served, he might commit him to drug treatment program, probation might come and pick him up. It could be a number of things that take place at court that it might be just a regular court proceeding, but then he gets released and he doesn't come back to the institution. Question do you recall seeing inmate Efren Reyes name on that list? Answer if he was on that list at that time, then I've seen it, but I don't recall now. Speaking now. But at that time. Yeah, if his name's on the list. Yes. Question do you recall of his. I know you said you don't recall, but by any chance would you have known if he had left wab? What does WAB stand for? Answer with all belongings may meaning they're being transferred either to an airlift, transferred to another bop, transferred to another state institution that the marshals will be transferring them to. Question and you don't recall if his name was on WAB on that list? Answer no, I don't recall that. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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