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The Epstein Chronicles
Inside The OIG Interview: The Warden's Statement Detailing The Death Of Jeffrey Epstein (Part 4) (4/9/26)
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Lamine N'Diaye, in his interview with the Office of the Inspector General, essentially tried to turn the Metropolitan Correctional Center into a scapegoat while positioning himself as a bystander to its failures. He leaned heavily on the narrative...
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Epstein Chronicles Narrator
What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up where we left off with the warden from MCC and his interview with the OIG investigators. Question okay, the one thing that I've learned more recently is though, during psychological observation, or I guess I should ask for them during suicide watch as well as psychological observation, is the inmate allowed to have attorney visits? If they are on that watch, then no. Question what about during psychological observation? I think it would be the same thing that they're not allowed to have and I'm not sure. Don't quote me on it because typically when they're on that, we don't have it. Question okay, do you recall if either yourself or anyone at the institution was contacted by anyone, such as a judge or Epstein's attorneys, asking that he be removed from either psychological observation or suicide watch so that he for any reason? Answer they will always call. I mean they would. They're always a number subject whether it was to place them in general population. So I don't know. You know, recall he gets cut off by the investigator. Do you remember ever being called by a judge? Answer no, I don't. I don't recall. Question okay. Answer Speaking with a judge. Question all right, because that was the rumor that we heard was that a judge contacted you and said they wanted him removed from one or the other. Answer no, judges wouldn't typically call for that. Question but the attorneys frequently Would answer yeah, frequently. They would, you know, call our legal department saying, you know, why can't he go to general population? Why is he, you know, being housed here and just not him. If there was any type of equipment that was requested, those are the type of requests you get from the attorney. Question. Okay. And do you know if those attorneys were made though when he was on either suicide watch or psychological observation? Answer I don't recall that. Question. You don't recall? Answer no question. Sure, that's fine. Do you know, I know you said that and you didn't think that the inmates typically could, but do you know if Mr. Epstein visited with his attorneys during that time between the 23rd and the 30th? He gets cut off by the warden. If he was on status then he would not have been. He gets cut off now by the investigator. You don't believe so? I don't believe so. Okay. No, I don't believe so. Question. No problem. Alright, so this, this one again. Oh, do you mind if you initial and date that. Okay. You can file that accordingly. This one just goes back to the first initial timeline that looked like it may have been a little messed up. The initial email from you. It looks like it's a psychop. The logbook shows he was released on July 30th. He had an attorney visit starting at 8:20. He was there all day. And I'll send the attorney log Next. And then Mr. Redacted's response was the timeline sent. DOJ says 7 29. Where did we get that date? So are we confident that he stayed until the 30th answer he stayed until the 30th question okay, so was this just an incorrect he gets cut off by the warden? I think that was a typo question. Okay. Oh, sorry. Do you mind to initial inundating Answer well this answers your previous question. Question what's that answer about him being on Psychops and seeing an attorney. He didn't go until after he got off. Question well, it says that he had an attorney Visit starting at 8:20am but it doesn't say if he had any prior to that time. Answer Right. Oh, because he was released on July 30th. Question right. Question starting at 8:20am but it doesn't say if he had any prior to that Answer Right. Oh, because he was released on the 30th. Question. Right. Answer. Okay. Question so just saying like yeah, he was released, he was visiting with his attorneys and that's something that we've had a little bit of conflicting information. Answer. Huh. Question. We've heard that actually he did have attorney visits during that time, and we've heard that he didn't. So that's why I was wondering if you would be able to clear that up at all, but you're not, to your recollection, he wouldn't have. Answer. Yeah, typically if you're on that, you're not going to have an attorney visit question. And just talking to psychology, they would. They said that. No, we always try to afford an inmate, they have a right to an attorney visit. So we try to afford that right. But do you think that maybe they were mistaken? Answer. I'm just going from my experience, like any other of the inmates that we've had on suicide watch have not gone to an attorney visit Question. Okay, now this. Speaking of psychology, that's the next point. Let me make sure that all the information is on that incident. So as far as Tartaglioni, however, it is. Okay, so did you have any involvement with selecting Tartaglioni as Epstein's cellmate? Answer. We did. Question. Okay, and how is that selection made? Answer. So we weren't able to get a whole lot of people, you know, think that how we could house them to be safe. Tar Taglioni was a white male, another high profile case. So he is not, you know, there is this misconception that he's a big hulking bodyguard, but he lost over a hundred pounds, so he was smaller in stature and frame. So we said that would have been an appropriate cellmate for him. And who made the decision to put them together? Uh huh. I did. Okay. Was it in coordination with both the captain as well as Mr. Everyone? Yeah. Would discuss it like, you know, I obviously I sent it up the chain to say, look, who were going to make him his cellmate? And that was the reasoning. Question. So in talking with the captain, his recollection was that he brought you three names. You discussed it with Mr. Adacted. He was present for that discussion. And Mr. Adacted is the only one who said, I want Tartaglione, put him with Tartaglione. Do you recall it being that way or do you recall it? He gets cut off by the warden. Well, are we talking about Tartaglione? Question oh, did that happen with Mr. Reyes? Answer well, Reyes and what do you call it? Reyes. And there were two names. So I talked to my boss about it. They wanted to see the names. So I don't know who they talked to at Main Justice. So I sent the email and stuff with all the breakdown of the Two inmates to the director's office redacted. And because he was the chief of staff at the time, and I sent it up, you know, I put my input in. I. About as far as we had to choose between who was going to get it was that. What was it? The Spanish. The older gentleman who left, he gets cut off by the investigator, Efren Reyes. Answer. Reyes. That Reyes would be the most appropriate because we couldn't find anybody. Question. Okay, so he gets cut off by the warden. And then they went up and then I got word back that they're going to go with Reyes. Question. Okay, so Reyes was then. So your superiors actually made the selection, but for he gets cut off by the warden. Tartaglione. Question. Tartaglioni. That was you Answer. I mean, it was in conjunction. I sent it up and told, you know, the powers that be that this is who we're going to be. And it came back and said, you know, we're good for that. Question. Okay, do you know what Tartaglioni was in for? Answer. I know it was a big drug case involving drug dealers and stuff like that, so. And yeah, his lawyer, Mr. Hayes, pipes in some kinds of narcotics. Question. Some kinds of narcotics. So he. And then I don't. And I recall there was murder involved too. Hayes.
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Epstein Chronicles Narrator
Answer by the warden. But he was a high profile case. I had gentlemen in there that were trying to get in there, but, you know, they would have probably harmed him. I had another pedophile in there, and everybody in the unit, they know who's in the unit. I'm not talking about him as a cellmate, you know, so we can't just arbitrarily force another inmate into the cell upon them. So Tartaglioni, you know the best. Hayes interjects. The other inmates would not accept Epstein, nor would they accept the pedophile. Well, they accepted the other one though, right? None of the story makes sense. I'm sorry, guys, I don't believe any of it. Answer. They weren't going to. They just weren't going to stab Epstein. I don't know the reasons, but I mean, I can't make the decision and say, all, all right, I'm going to force you to take this. And then something happens to him, he gets cut off by the investigator. So someone actually spoke with Tartaglioni and he said he was willing to do it. Answer. And I'm not sure on there who spoke to him, but I don't know. Question. Okay. Answer. It might have been, but I know that we said we're going to put him in and this is. This is what? And he didn't have any issues. Question. Okay, and if someone did speak with him, who would that have been? Would that have been a captain? Answer. It might have been the captain. Shoot. Indiscernible. But it probably would have been the captain. You know, typically, you know, we're going to make a move and we're putting somebody in there, we're going to, you know, sit down and consult with an inmate, if that's okay with you. We just have to feel the unit that who is appropriate to go in there? Okay. I'm not going to put a drug dealer in there with them. So, you know, typically, another high profile inmate would be appropriate. Well, you literally just put Tartaglione in there with him and he was a drug dealer. Question. Okay, now do you have any reason to believe that Tartaglioni, in fact tried to harm Epstein on July 23? Answer again, I can't speculate on that. Question. Sure. Just because it would be pure speculation. If you did answer. Yeah, it would be. It would be speculating on that. And you just prefer not to do that. Yeah, I don't want to speculate, bro. But you'll speculate to say he killed himself, huh? Question. Okay, now, so our assessment from other people has been that Tartaglioni was trying to beat his case and that he had every reason in the world not to try to harm Epstein and that Tartaglioni was actually the person who notified the guards that Epstein was in need of help. Is that a correct assessment? Hayes Tartaglioni wasn't in the cell at the time. Question on July 23rd, he was. Answer by the warden. He was. So he. Warden gets cut off by Hayes. He was again cut off by the warden. Yeah. So there's. How I'm going to put this. As far as Tartaglioni, we and his behavior in the institution, he. He wasn't a model prisoner. I mean, we caught him, you know, with a cell phone, you know, making calls, you know, and circumventing his case and whatever. But. So I don't. I can't speculate on, you know, whether he would do something or he wouldn't do something. So that was, you know, my dealing with Tartaglioni when I was aware of him, plus, you know, his case and the request from his attorneys. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right there. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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