
Another survivor of Jeffrey Epstein has added her voice to the storm calling for justice and for accountability. Kelly Brennan, a long island native who was abused by Epstein when she was 18, recounts the harrowing tale of how she found herself in his...
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This is Mike Borlow of Lexicon Valley and I'm Bob Garfield. Are you one of those people who sometimes uses words? Do you communicate or acquire information with, you know, language? Hey, us too. So join us on Lexicon Valley to chew over the history, culture and, and many mysteries of English, plus some rice cracks. Find us on one of those apps where people listen to podcasts. 1. And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Today we have a story from another woman who was abused by Jeffrey Epstein, who decided to come out recently and talk about what went down. Now, this woman is a resident of long Island. She's 37 years old. And her encounters with Epstein mimic the other ones that we have seen throughout history. Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell. People in their circle, they identify vulnerable girls, girls from broken homes, beat up backgrounds, might not have, you know, the most favorable situation at home. And these are the girls that they looked for, girls that have already been abused. You know, these girls would confide in Maxwell and Epstein and tell them about their previous abuse, their lives. And then Maxwell and Epstein would act upon that and use their previous experiences against them to help them be abused by Maxwell and Epstein in the future. And it was disgusting as hell, the, the way they were able to do it for so long. And this was their M.O. this is what they would do. They'd identify these girls and then they'd move in, they'd groom them, they'd normalize it, and before you know it, they were unleashing them on the populace to bring more girls into the web. So today we have an article from the Long Island Press, and the author of this article is Timothy Bulger. Long island woman who survived Jeffrey Epstein's abuse speaks out. After enduring abuse while growing up on Long Island, Kelly Brennan hoped that going away to college would offer her a fresh start. But instead, she was abused again by Jeffrey Epstein. Brennan, 37, is the first known Long Islander to have been caught up in the world of the late financier, convicted pedophile, and. And accused international sex trafficking ring kingpin. Now, that's always funny terminology, right? A ring is a circular object that goes over your finger, if you will. That's what a ring is, or what we think of as a ring. Well, Jeffrey Epstein couldn't be a ring by himself, could he? He'd have to be a circular object, meaning other people involved. So where are all of the other people who are helping them do this, who are helping him facilitate all of this shit? How is it that they have all squeaked by? She decided to break her silence in an effort to raise awareness about sexual abuse and allow her story to serve as a cautionary tale to others. I hit rock bottom when the pandemic hit, she exclusively told press. Everything came flooding back. And we've heard this from a lot of people as well. A lot of people had repressed memories of what went down as far as Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, their abuse. And when the pandemic hit, people had a lot of time to sit down and come to terms and come to grips with their own demons, if you will, their own issues that they have, you know, dealt with throughout their lives. A lot of that stuff came flooding back. Epstein died by suicide, allegedly, and a Manhattan federal jail cell in 2019 while pending trial on sex trafficking charges. Authorities have said Brennan is not the first local tie to the case, as the press has reported. The executors of Epstein's estate include Glen Cove native Darren Endyke and accountant Richard Kahn, who owns a home in Watermill. The Attorney General of the US Virgin Islands has accused the duo of being captains and in the alleged scheme. So remember, it's Denise George who's calling these dudes captains, right? We're not just sitting here pulling that out of our ass and making things up. I mean, when you have as many years of court documents as we do in this case, it's what elevates this case from others, right? A lot of other cases that are happening in real time. It's a lot of speculation, a lot of theory here. If you put the pieces together, it tells you the whole last story. It's just doing the legwork and putting the pieces together. While Brennan's attorney confirms that she was among the survivors to receive compensation from Epstein's estate, she said her abuse, while horrific, stopped short of human trafficking. She says after she was sexually assaulted by Epstein at age 18, introduced to him under the guise of doing modeling work she had a mental breakdown that ultimately removed her from. From Epstein's orbit. Now, look, Epstein wasn't above abusing women, right? He had a whole bunch of different things going on at once. He had his blackmail scheme going on. He had his own proclivities. And also he knew that the best way to get these people under his thumb was to get them in a compromising situation. Look, you can beat the whole, oh, I cheated on my wife thing or I cheated on my husband. There's no way you're getting out of, oh, you had sex with an underage girl. And we have it on video or we have evidence of it. There's no way to get out of that. So what bit of blackmail could you possibly have on somebody that is more destructive than something like that? So with Epstein, it wasn't always just about, you know, human trafficking, if you will, selling girls. And that wasn't even the thing. They weren't receiving money for these girls. It was all about influence, pedaling, and in hopes that these girls would have these guys talking and in turn, they'd get the information that they were looking for. Meaning Maxwell and Epstein. Here is her story in her own words. This conversation has been edited for length and clarity. Jeffrey Epstein, abuse survivor, speaks out. So, obviously it's in question format. It's an interview here. So I'll ask the question and then we'll answer it, and I'll let you know that it's her answering the question. What was the trigger that made you decide? Now's the time to start sharing your story response? I know this is going to sound weird, but I didn't know Jeffrey Epstein was Jeffrey Epstein. Then one day we decided to watch some tv. I put on Netflix and the Epstein documentary trailer was on. It flipped my entire world upside down in every way. The girl that introduced me to him, I just thought that was a girl who wanted to be my friend. So as I'm watching this, I'm realizing the girl that introduced me is really a recruiter. I have proof, and I put it all together. If you would have asked me four or five years ago if I had ever been abused, I probably would have said no. I would have had the Epstein thing in the back of my mind. But I know I couldn't say anything about that. And so when I'm asked, and people do it all the time, why now? Why you're finding your voice. And as crazy as this sounds, it's because I didn't know. And for people who are on the outside looking in, that sounds Kind of weird, right? How don't you know? What the hell? But when you have repressed memories from supreme trauma, it's. It's very difficult to try and remember that stuff and let it flow back to the surface. That's why people repress this stuff. How did being abused as a child play a role? Answer. I always thought it was my fault. As I got older and more things happened, I grew up in a very abusive household. And then as I just asked for help and went to teachers, and they took advantage of me, and we ended up dating, I thought it was my fault. I mean, what is wrong with people? Like, if you're a teacher and some kid comes to you and they're like, look, I'm being abused, they. The first thing you're thinking is, oh, we should have a date. I thought it was my fault. And then right after that, I meet Epstein, and I think it's my fault, because why did I go to the city? I shouldn't have went to the city. You don't go with strangers. You don't do this stuff. So for a really long time, I just blamed myself. And then as I was watching the documentary, everything hit me that I never stood a chance with all of it. None of the stuff that happened prior was normal. None of that was okay. And I had to kind of accept that. And when you start coming to terms with the abuse and with your situation, all of those old and bad repressed memories, they just come back and they hit you at once.
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And you. We've heard this story from a lot of these women who have went through trauma, not just in the Epstein case, but in general. People who have suffered abuse, they repress it. What aspects of Epstein's story do you feel are underreported or being ignored? He picked out the vulnerable. I've done research on this, and almost every single one of us was either sexually abused, physically abused, or neglected. They had some horrific event. It blinds you. It does. And it also makes you willing to accept a little bit more than other people might be willing to accept. Your circumstances are so bad at home. You see a little light at the end of the tunnel. Someone's offering you a few hundred bucks for a massage. Look, it's go time. I don't have anything at home. What do I have waiting for me? A drunken dad, an abusive mom. So, yeah, there's a lot of trauma, and there's a lot of shit that needs to be worked out for people, man.
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How did he manipulate the modeling audition? Answer. He created situations where he just funneled you to where you want that made it seem like you had free will. But at the end of the day, no matter, he didn't give you an option. There was no option for me to say no the first time he assaulted me on that first day. Then he's calling me a prude. And if you're going to be in the modeling industry, you have to be, you know, a lot more open and you have to get used to things like that. And so I just started thinking, well, maybe, maybe he's right. Maybe that's just how the modeling industry is. Well, that is how the modeling industry is, or at least was according to all of these people. And that shit needs to change. Another thing that I always say, how is it that these dudes are owning these modeling agencies? Old ass men who have nothing to do with fashion or industry. All of a sudden you own a modeling agency now I get it, you're a former model or something like that. You're in the industry, fine. But these dudes want like pageants and the Miss usa. So weird to me. What are you doing, bro? How are you recruited? I didn't sign up for anything. Somebody very nicely offered to get me a job interview and I went and then I was forced locked in a room with a person and they do whatever they want. Now I see how easy it is for someone to manipulate or take advantage of someone. I thought he was nice. He's very charismatic and all of that in the beginning, helpful and a great host and all that crap. It made me feel almost indebted. I remember not wanting to do it and just being like, no, I don't have a ride. And they said, we'll send a car for you, we'll do it on the weekend around your schedule. And they never let you leave. You always schedule the next thing before the last thing ended. So you just kind of get hooked into this. And before you can even rationalize what's going on, you find yourself locked into this nonsense. And that's how the spider web works. How did you get out? I had a complete mental breakdown, ended up in the hospital and literally just got cut out that entire part of my life in every way. How have you moved on since? Answer. I worked with my dad for about 10 years. That's in live entertainment. Our clients were theaters, like sports venues and stuff like that. But then Covid happened and all of that shut down. So we. I ended up losing the consulting business. So I made this my focus once I finally kind of got better. So I'm trying to. Sexually trying to sexual assault and mental health advocate. And at this point. So her new gig is after the pandemic, she's trying to help other people who went through this. And you see that from a lot of these women or men even, who suffer this trauma. They decide that they want to give back and. And help people who were in the same position that they were in. What have you learned from this? I've learned to take good in the bad and all of that. I've been sharing a lot more about my Epstein story and all that. But. But like I said, there was a lot more that happened prior to that. A lot of people failed me. Somewhere along the line, should have noticed something and helped me. Whether it was a teacher, a community member, you know, a religious whatever, fire department, the police, a social worker, anything. Somewhere along the line, someone should have helped me. And if at any point anybody did, my life would have been drastically different. And I don't think any kid should have to go through that. So I just want to make sure that's fixed now so that kids, people can just grow up and know that sometimes parents or things don't do what they should be doing. But there's someone else out there or something else out there to help prevent this from going on. And we're going to hear a lot more of these stories, folks. As the days and the weeks and the months move on. More women, more people who have been abused, are going to come to grips with what happened and. And they're going to come forward with their stories. So we'll continue to add them to the catalog and we'll continue to talk about how this piece of shit, Jeffrey Epstein, was able to do this for all of these years with no repercussions. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C C I protonmail. Com. You can also find me on Twitter at at Bobby Capucci. The link that I discussed can be found in the description box.
Host: Bobby Capucci
Guest/Subject: Kelly Brennan, survivor
Date: April 1, 2026
This episode focuses on the harrowing story of Kelly Brennan, a Long Island woman and survivor of sexual abuse by Jeffrey Epstein. Drawing from a recent interview and news article, host Bobby Capucci explores Brennan’s experiences, the psychological dynamics of Epstein and Maxwell’s predatory behavior, and the broader underreported realities of Epstein’s victim recruitment. The episode highlights the cycles of abuse, institutional failures, and the power structures that facilitated Epstein’s crimes. It serves as both a survivor’s testimony and an exposé on why so many victims remained silent for years.
Timestamp: 01:30 – 05:45
Capucci outlines the modus operandi of Epstein and Maxwell:
Capucci criticizes the “ring” terminology, emphasizing that Epstein had enablers:
Timestamp: 05:45 – 09:30
Kelly Brennan describes how she only realized she was an Epstein survivor years later, after seeing the Netflix documentary with her abuser featured:
Brennan discusses repressed memories and how she did not recognize her experiences as abuse due to the trauma:
Timestamp: 07:30 – 10:10
Timestamp: 09:40 – 10:36
Timestamp: 11:15 – 14:00
Timestamp: 14:01 – 15:30
Timestamp: 15:31 – 16:55
On trauma and memory
On the pattern of abuse:
On systemic failures:
| Timestamp | Segment/Topic | |-----------|--------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:30 | Epstein and Maxwell’s method of targeting, grooming, abuse | | 05:45 | Kelly Brennan’s realization and breaking her silence | | 07:30 | Her background of abuse and self-blame | | 09:40 | Underreported aspects: targeting the vulnerable | | 11:15 | How Epstein manipulated “modeling auditions” and recruitment | | 14:01 | Brennan’s escape and post-trauma advocacy | | 15:31 | Institutional failures and lessons for preventing future abuse |
This episode is a powerful testament to the pain, confusion, and journey towards advocacy that characterizes many Epstein survivors. It serves as both an indictment of the systemic failures that allowed abuse to go unchecked and a call to support survivors as more stories continue to emerge.