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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. As the Jeffrey Epstein related fallout continues to rain down, people are starting to pay a price. And one of those people is Katherine Rumler, the former Obama White House counsel and currently the top lawyer at Goldman Sachs. And honestly, it's a long time coming. This isn't some revelation. If you follow the story. You know about Katherine Rumler and you know that she was offering Jeffrey Epstein all kinds of advice and strategy to help fight the charges that he was facing. And. And even though he was a disgusting animal, she had no problem remaining his friend. Especially considering that friendship also came with a lot of perks, such as a $9,350 handbag, which is wild to me considering how rich this lady is. Anyway, you mean to tell me Ms. Big Shot Lawyer here can't come up with $9,350? So it's not just the perk, right? Not just the bag. She actually really enjoyed Jeffrey Epstein. She enjoyed his company, she enjoyed his friendship, and she certainly enjoyed his patronage. Today's article was published by Reuters and the headline jeffrey Epstein gave her a 9350 handbag. But did Goldman Sachs departing top lawyer violate any rules? This article was authored by Jenna Green. Well, maybe not any rules of the trade, but she certainly broke all the rules of morality. And considering the shitstorm, Goldman Sachs is certainly in the right letting her go. Now, of course she'll say she's stepping down, but you know, the pressure came from the top shareholders, people on the board. Nobody wants to deal with this shit. And that's because all of you have kept the pressure on. So every one of you who have been engaged, following along and demanding justice should give yourselves a pat on the back. Because you're the real engine behind all of this. Not my big mouth, not anybody else talking about it. It's all of you folks who are demanding justice and who refuse to be told to move on. Because I promise you, if you weren't making the kind of stink that you're making, they would have already moved on. We'd have no files, nothing. So the whole entire thing as far as where we are is because of folks like you. Goldman Sachs top lawyer Katherine Rumler faced fierce criticism on social media and calls for her ouster following revelations that she accepted thousands of dollars worth of gifts from Jeffrey Epstein when she was previously a partner at a law firm as a matter of attorney ethics. Her conduct didn't appear to violate any professional rules, but it raised questions of judgment. Some legal ethics experts told me, well, it really comes down to the blowback. They might wrap it in some kind of dressing. Oh yeah, it was about ethics. It was about this, that the other thing. But really it's about pushback. They don't want to deal with you folks going bananas. And they now know that this isn't gonna just blow over. So they had to do something. And that something is removing Kathryn Rummler. Late Thursday, Rummler announced her resignation as Goldman's chief legal officer and General Counsel, effective June 30. My responsibility is to put Goldman Sachs interests first, rummler said in a statement. Goldman Chief executive David Solomon, who had initially stood by Rummler, said in a statement that Rummler has been an extraordinary general counsel and will be missed. Ah, don't worry. I'm sure you can find another pedophile adjacent person to come and take the reins. A spokesperson for Rumler, who served as White House counsel during the Obama administration, said earlier this week that she was never Epstein's lawyer and that she had done nothing wrong. Okay, so that's pretty important, right? She's saying that she has never been Epstein's lawyer. So that means that there is no lawyer client privilege. So they can't hide behind that. Let's just keep that in mind moving forward as more information comes out about Katherine Rumler Ethic Rules for lawyers offer few guardrails on propriety of accepting gifts Most state bars have adopted an American Bar association rule that says a lawyer may not solicit a substantial gift from a client. But the rule doesn't prevent a lawyer from accepting an unsolicited client gift, no matter how valuable, said Fordham School of Law ethics professor Bruce Green. Nor are lawyers barred from soliciting or accepting substantial gifts from a former client or other non client. Look, let's not get caught in the weeds here. That's not what this is about. It's not about a 9350 bag. It's about her judgment being skewed. It's about her judgment being terrible. It's about her associating, frolicking and enjoying the company of a convicted sex offender. I mean, if you're Goldman Sachs, do you want this lady representing your company? I know. I wouldn't. Talk about a nightmare. If she can't even figure out that Epstein's a piece of. You really want her in charge of negotiating billion dollar deals and whatnot. Seems like a situation that you try to avoid at all costs. According to Rumler's spokesperson, Jennifer Connelly, Rumler knew Epstein through her prior work as a criminal defense attorney, received referrals from him, and was friendly with him in a personal context. Epstein also occasionally sought her informal legal advice, and she responded based on what she knew and often in ways designed to placate him without having to actually get involved. Connolly wrote in an email. Oh, still lying. Still lying about the relationship. Just admit it. Just admit that you enjoyed his company. You knew what he was and you didn't give a fuck about the people he hurt. I'm so tired of the lying, the bullshitting, the mental gymnastics. Gulman has a 39 page code of conduct that includes instructions on giving but not receiving gifts from clients. It also prohibits employees from engaging in outside activities that create conflicts, reputational risks, or any other negative impact to the firm or our clients. I mean, right there is cause for firing. You want to talk about reputational risk? You want to talk about a serious problem, folks? This is it. Imagine being a board member, somebody that holds a large number of stock over here. Imagine what you're thinking right now. And make no mistake, the only reason she resigned is because they were letting her save face. She was on her way out, no matter what. It's unclear to what extent the rule would have obligated Rumler to disclose her prior association with the notorious financier whose death in 2019 was front page news, or if such disclosure was made. Rummler was hired by Goldman in April of 2020. They already knew. They didn't care. Just like the rest of these people. It's always the same story right after the fact. They'll tell you, oh, we care so much about Epstein's survivors. We care so much about what Epstein was doing. But the reality is, when they had a chance to not hire him, to not associate with him, they sure had no problem doing it. Goldman spokesperson Tony Fratto told Reuters last week that Epstein often offered unsolicited favors and gifts to many business contacts. Rummler accepted the gifts between 2014 and 2019, when she was a partner at Latham and Watkins, according to emails recently released by the US Department of Justice. The law firm says Epstein was not a client and declined for further comment. Oh, I bet they did. I bet you they're running for cover. If they have a bunker, they're hiding in it. Law firm consultant Lisa Smith with Fairfax Associates said that while some firms place limits on gifts from vendors, she hasn't seen partnership agreements that address non clients. It would be difficult to define that, but it's possible that exists, she said via email. Latham's partnership agreement is not publicly available, and the firm does not publish a code of ethics for its lawyers on its website. Epstein pleaded guilty in Florida state court in 2008 to felony solicitation of prostitution and procuring a person under the age of 18 for prostitution. Just to be clear, if you're under 18, you can't be a prostitute. Okay? You're a child who, who's being manipulated, groomed, abused. I hope that was clear for everybody in the back. In July of 2019, he was arrested on a sex trafficking charge and died a month later in a Manhattan jail cell in what New York City's chief medical examiner called a suicide. Based on my review of a sample of more than 9,000 emails from 2014 to 2019 that mention Rumler's name, the exchanges offer few indications of why the gifts were given or what, if anything, Epstein expected in return. A purse from Bloomingdale's in 2017 was said to be a birthday present. And on Valentine's Day in 2018, Epstein treated Rummler to a Glam Squad hair and makeup appointment. At least twice he sent chicken soup when she was sick, the email show. So how many of you out there have sent chicken noodle soup to somebody who's sick that you didn't really know? I'm sure everybody's out there running to the store right now to get some of that chicken noodle soup to send to a stranger. These people really think you're stupid, that's what they really think. And they're hoping beyond hope that the water carriers that are out here in the media do the job for them. Oh, well, you see, this wasn't that big of a deal. Everybody does it, yo. Full stop. No, everybody doesn't do it. Only you sick degenerates.
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I adore him. It's like having another older brother, rummler wrote in a 2015 email to Epstein's assistant. Also buried in the DOJ's document release, a 2016 email from Epstein forwarding a flattering column I wrote for a legal publication about Rummler's work on behalf of a Dubai bank. The email appears to have been sent to executives at Swiss bank Edmund de Rothschild. Well, we know he was working for the Rothschilds, and I know that sounds like some crazy ass Alex Jones level, but it's true. According to Connolly, the bank was a client of both Epstein and Rumler, and from the emails, it appears that Epstein had facilitated her introduction to the client. Emailing Rumler in 2014 that that Edmund D. Rothschild had a DOJ problem. Without elaborating, he asked if she was prohibited from involvement. No, no prohibition, she responded. A spokesperson for the bank did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Well, well, well, what was she doing? What levers were being pulled? And did Rummler play any part in the Obama administration hiding this and covering this up? Because make no mistake, the Obama administration had all this information. They knew what was going on, they knew what Epstein was and they hit it too. So Thomas Massie the other day hit the nail on the head, but he didn't go back far enough because this shit started during Clinton's first term and it's been going on since. So all the people out here that want to pass blame, blame everybody else. I gotta tell you, it's everybody's fault. Neither side has cared about this and that's why we find ourselves in the position that we're in. But when you have somebody like Katherine Rumler who is this high up, who is somebody that's the White House counsel and they're being asked to step in and, you know, help out with the doj, that's a problem and if Prince Andrew and Mandelson are going to get hemmed up, don't you think that people that were in a position like Rummlers here in America should also face serious scrutiny? I most certainly do. Reuters was unable to establish what issue Epstein was referring to, or whether Rummler was ultimately retained to work on it. Rummler's bounty from Epstein included a Hermes purse priced at $9,350 in 2016 and a Fendi coat and bag costing 6,800 in August of 2018, according to emails released by the DOJ. Other gifts include wine, flowers and a massage at the Four Seasons in Washington, D.C. the email show Boy, must be nice, huh? Out here on the predator's dime getting your legs rubbed. Hope you enjoy yourself because I can assure you that the girls that were involved with massaging Jeffrey Epstein and his gross ass friends, they didn't have very much fun. Should Rummler have known better than to accept? With the benefit of hindsight, it seems easy to say yes and to see Epstein's campaign of largesse as a deliberate move to get a leading lawyer in his corner, even unofficially. Still running cover for your friend here, huh? Let's just face it, Kathryn Ruemmler piece of shit. Okay? Point blank period. No cover. That's it. That's what she is. And this is why I'm calling for a special counsel. Someone that goes back and looks at everything. Obama, Bush, Clinton, everybody. Everything has to be on the table. In 2018, the Miami Herald and other news outlets reported in detail on allegations of of sexual abuse by teen girls against Epstein. Oh stop it. It was widely reported the first time around. Don't even sit here for a minute and act like you had no idea. That shit is not gonna work. Rumler spokesperson said her views on Epstein were shaped by his denial of any wrongdoing other than what he had pled guilty to years prior and that if she had known what she knows now, she never would have dealt with them at all. By the nature of their practice, criminal defense lawyers are going to have relationships with unsavory people. What lawyers need to keep in mind is whether such relationships could reflect poorly on their firm or company, said Downey Law Group founder Michael Downey, whose firm focuses on legal ethics and lawyer discipline defense, especially if gifts or favors are involved. The rules of professional conduct don't necessarily come into play, he said. Instead, it's ultimately a question of judgment. Well, folks, I don't think there's any question that she used poor judgment and while she was having a great time getting her massage and having her Hermes bag. That Epstein bill is now due and Katherine Rumler is paying up with interest. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Kathryn Ruemmler Resigns After Epstein Documents Surface New Details

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: August 8, 2026

Episode Overview

In this episode, host Bobby Capucci discusses the recent resignation of Kathryn Ruemmler — former Obama White House counsel and, until now, the top lawyer at Goldman Sachs — following renewed revelations of her ties to Jeffrey Epstein. Drawing from a Reuters article and newly surfaced DOJ emails, Capucci examines the ethical and reputational fallout for Ruemmler and Goldman Sachs, digs into the broader web of complicity among elite circles, and strongly calls for greater accountability across the political spectrum.

Key Discussion Points

1. The Fallout: Ruemmler’s Resignation

Background: Kathryn Ruemmler resigned as Goldman Sachs' top lawyer amid public outcry over her relationship and dealings with convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein.
Public Pressure: Capucci credits persistent public scrutiny for forcing action:

“All of you who have been engaged, following along and demanding justice should give yourselves a pat on the back. Because you're the real engine behind all of this…if you weren't making the kind of stink that you're making, they would have already moved on.” (01:40)

2. Ethics vs. Judgment

Legal vs. Moral Standards: Legally, Ruemmler’s acceptance of lavish gifts (like a $9,350 Hermes handbag) may not have violated attorney ethics rules, but Capucci argues her judgment is indefensible:

"It's not about a 9350 bag. It's about her judgment being skewed. It's about her judgment being terrible. It's about her associating, frolicking and enjoying the company of a convicted sex offender." (05:30)
Gift Rules and Loopholes:
- Most state bars allow lawyers to accept unsolicited gifts.
- Policies often address giving, not receiving, gifts.
- Goldman Sachs’ 39-page code of conduct stresses avoiding reputational risk, a standard Capucci insists Ruemmler clearly breached.

3. The Nature and Extent of Ruemmler’s Relationship with Epstein

Personal and Professional Ties:
- Ruemmler's spokesperson asserts she was never Epstein’s lawyer and didn’t violate rules, but Capucci remains skeptical:
  
  “Oh, still lying. Still lying about the relationship. Just admit it. Just admit that you enjoyed his company. You knew what he was and you didn't give a fuck about the people he hurt.” (07:00)
- DOJ-released emails show Epstein gave Ruemmler multiple expensive gifts (handbag, Fendi coat, wine, flowers, Four Seasons massage, etc.) between 2014 and 2019 while she was a partner at Latham & Watkins.
- Emails included personal notes, such as:
  
  “I adore him. It’s like having another older brother.” —Kathryn Ruemmler, in a 2015 email to Epstein’s assistant (11:54)

4. Corporate Complicity and Hypocrisy

Goldman Sachs' Knowledge: Capucci claims Goldman hired Ruemmler in 2020, well after Epstein’s notoriety was public, showing corporate indifference until pressured:

“They already knew. They didn't care. Just like the rest of these people. It's always the same story right after the fact. They'll tell you, oh, we care so much about Epstein's survivors. ...But the reality is, when they had a chance...they sure had no problem doing it.” (08:30)
Law Firm Evasion: Neither Latham & Watkins nor the Rothschild bank would comment on details of Ruemmler’s gifts or involvement, and Latham’s code of ethics is not publicly available.

5. Institutional Failure and Bipartisan Culpability

Political Connections and Coverups:
- Capucci alleges that both Democratic and Republican administrations neglected or hid Epstein’s crimes, citing Ruemmler’s prominence and White House ties as especially problematic.
- He advocates for a special counsel to investigate all ties, leaving “everything on the table: Obama, Bush, Clinton, everybody.” (16:00)
“If Prince Andrew and Mandelson are going to get hemmed up, don’t you think that people that were in a position like Rummler’s here in America should also face serious scrutiny? I most certainly do.” (14:10)

6. Broader Implications and Final Thoughts

Systemic Corruption: The episode continually returns to the theme that these are not isolated incidents but reflect a pattern of high society enabling and protecting abusers for decades.
Final Takedown: Capucci concludes,

“While she was having a great time getting her massage and having her Hermes bag, that Epstein bill is now due and Katherine Rumler is paying up with interest.” (16:40)

Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

| Timestamp | Quote | Speaker | |-----------|---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------|----------------------| | 01:40 | “All of you…are the real engine behind all of this…if you weren't making the kind of stink that you're making, they would have already moved on.” | Bobby Capucci | | 05:30 | “It's not about a 9350 bag. It's about her judgment being skewed...You really want her in charge of negotiating billion dollar deals?” | Bobby Capucci | | 07:00 | “Just admit it…you didn’t give a fuck about the people he hurt. I’m so tired of the lying…the mental gymnastics.” | Bobby Capucci | | 11:54 | “I adore him. It’s like having another older brother.” (from Ruemmler’s 2015 email) | Kathryn Ruemmler | | 14:10 | “If Prince Andrew and Mandelson are going to get hemmed up, don’t you think that people…here in America should also face serious scrutiny? I most certainly do.” | Bobby Capucci | | 16:00 | “...calling for a special counsel. Someone that goes back and looks at everything. Obama, Bush, Clinton, everybody.” | Bobby Capucci | | 16:40 | “While she was having a great time...that Epstein bill is now due and Katherine Rumler is paying up with interest.” | Bobby Capucci |

Timestamps for Important Segments

00:45 – Episode begins; context on Ruemmler’s role and public pressure
03:20 – Review of legal/ethical ramifications and Goldman Sachs’ code of conduct
07:00 – Host’s direct criticism of Ruemmler’s denials
09:10 – Summary of DOJ emails and pattern of gifts
11:54 – Notable Ruemmler email (“I adore him…”), banking connections, and further gift revelations
14:10 – Call for wider accountability and special counsel investigation
16:00 – Closing comments on systemic failures, need for oversight

Summary

This episode is a pointed, no-holds-barred critique of the enduring impunity and interconnectedness of elites surrounding Jeffrey Epstein. Through the lens of Kathryn Ruemmler’s resignation, Capucci exposes legal loopholes, corporate hypocrisy, and a bipartisan failure to confront systemic abuse — urging listeners to keep demanding accountability and calling for expansive investigation of all high-level connections.

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What's up everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. As the Jeffrey Epstein related fallout continues to rain down, people are starting to pay a price. And one of those people is Katherine Rumler, the former Obama White House counsel and currently the top lawyer at Goldman Sachs. And honestly, it's a long time coming. This isn't some revelation. If you follow the story. You know about Katherine Rumler and you know that she was offering Jeffrey Epstein all kinds of advice and strategy to help fight the charges that he was facing. And. And even though he was a disgusting animal, she had no problem remaining his friend. Especially considering that friendship also came with a lot of perks, such as a $9,350 handbag, which is wild to me considering how rich this lady is. Anyway, you mean to tell me Ms. Big Shot Lawyer here can't come up with $9,350? So it's not just the perk, right? Not just the bag. She actually really enjoyed Jeffrey Epstein. She enjoyed his company, she enjoyed his friendship, and she certainly enjoyed his patronage. Today's article was published by Reuters and the headline jeffrey Epstein gave her a 9350 handbag. But did Goldman Sachs departing top lawyer violate any rules? This article was authored by Jenna Green. Well, maybe not any rules of the trade, but she certainly broke all the rules of morality. And considering the shitstorm, Goldman Sachs is certainly in the right letting her go. Now, of course she'll say she's stepping down, but you know, the pressure came from the top shareholders, people on the board. Nobody wants to deal with this shit. And that's because all of you have kept the pressure on. So every one of you who have been engaged, following along and demanding justice should give yourselves a pat on the back. Because you're the real engine behind all of this. Not my big mouth, not anybody else talking about it. It's all of you folks who are demanding justice and who refuse to be told to move on. Because I promise you, if you weren't making the kind of stink that you're making, they would have already moved on. We'd have no files, nothing. So the whole entire thing as far as where we are is because of folks like you. Goldman Sachs top lawyer Katherine Rumler faced fierce criticism on social media and calls for her ouster following revelations that she accepted thousands of dollars worth of gifts from Jeffrey Epstein when she was previously a partner at a law firm as a matter of attorney ethics. Her conduct didn't appear to violate any professional rules, but it raised questions of judgment. Some legal ethics experts told me, well, it really comes down to the blowback. They might wrap it in some kind of dressing. Oh yeah, it was about ethics. It was about this, that the other thing. But really it's about pushback. They don't want to deal with you folks going bananas. And they now know that this isn't gonna just blow over. So they had to do something. And that something is removing Kathryn Rummler. Late Thursday, Rummler announced her resignation as Goldman's chief legal officer and General Counsel, effective June 30. My responsibility is to put Goldman Sachs interests first, rummler said in a statement. Goldman Chief executive David Solomon, who had initially stood by Rummler, said in a statement that Rummler has been an extraordinary general counsel and will be missed. Ah, don't worry. I'm sure you can find another pedophile adjacent person to come and take the reins. A spokesperson for Rumler, who served as White House counsel during the Obama administration, said earlier this week that she was never Epstein's lawyer and that she had done nothing wrong. Okay, so that's pretty important, right? She's saying that she has never been Epstein's lawyer. So that means that there is no lawyer client privilege. So they can't hide behind that. Let's just keep that in mind moving forward as more information comes out about Katherine Rumler Ethic Rules for lawyers offer few guardrails on propriety of accepting gifts Most state bars have adopted an American Bar association rule that says a lawyer may not solicit a substantial gift from a client. But the rule doesn't prevent a lawyer from accepting an unsolicited client gift, no matter how valuable, said Fordham School of Law ethics professor Bruce Green. Nor are lawyers barred from soliciting or accepting substantial gifts from a former client or other non client. Look, let's not get caught in the weeds here. That's not what this is about. It's not about a 9350 bag. It's about her judgment being skewed. It's about her judgment being terrible. It's about her associating, frolicking and enjoying the company of a convicted sex offender. I mean, if you're Goldman Sachs, do you want this lady representing your company? I know. I wouldn't. Talk about a nightmare. If she can't even figure out that Epstein's a piece of. You really want her in charge of negotiating billion dollar deals and whatnot. Seems like a situation that you try to avoid at all costs. According to Rumler's spokesperson, Jennifer Connelly, Rumler knew Epstein through her prior work as a criminal defense attorney, received referrals from him, and was friendly with him in a personal context. Epstein also occasionally sought her informal legal advice, and she responded based on what she knew and often in ways designed to placate him without having to actually get involved. Connolly wrote in an email. Oh, still lying. Still lying about the relationship. Just admit it. Just admit that you enjoyed his company. You knew what he was and you didn't give a fuck about the people he hurt. I'm so tired of the lying, the bullshitting, the mental gymnastics. Gulman has a 39 page code of conduct that includes instructions on giving but not receiving gifts from clients. It also prohibits employees from engaging in outside activities that create conflicts, reputational risks, or any other negative impact to the firm or our clients. I mean, right there is cause for firing. You want to talk about reputational risk? You want to talk about a serious problem, folks? This is it. Imagine being a board member, somebody that holds a large number of stock over here. Imagine what you're thinking right now. And make no mistake, the only reason she resigned is because they were letting her save face. She was on her way out, no matter what. It's unclear to what extent the rule would have obligated Rumler to disclose her prior association with the notorious financier whose death in 2019 was front page news, or if such disclosure was made. Rummler was hired by Goldman in April of 2020. They already knew. They didn't care. Just like the rest of these people. It's always the same story right after the fact. They'll tell you, oh, we care so much about Epstein's survivors. We care so much about what Epstein was doing. But the reality is, when they had a chance to not hire him, to not associate with him, they sure had no problem doing it. Goldman spokesperson Tony Fratto told Reuters last week that Epstein often offered unsolicited favors and gifts to many business contacts. Rummler accepted the gifts between 2014 and 2019, when she was a partner at Latham and Watkins, according to emails recently released by the US Department of Justice. The law firm says Epstein was not a client and declined for further comment. Oh, I bet they did. I bet you they're running for cover. If they have a bunker, they're hiding in it. Law firm consultant Lisa Smith with Fairfax Associates said that while some firms place limits on gifts from vendors, she hasn't seen partnership agreements that address non clients. It would be difficult to define that, but it's possible that exists, she said via email. Latham's partnership agreement is not publicly available, and the firm does not publish a code of ethics for its lawyers on its website. Epstein pleaded guilty in Florida state court in 2008 to felony solicitation of prostitution and procuring a person under the age of 18 for prostitution. Just to be clear, if you're under 18, you can't be a prostitute. Okay? You're a child who, who's being manipulated, groomed, abused. I hope that was clear for everybody in the back. In July of 2019, he was arrested on a sex trafficking charge and died a month later in a Manhattan jail cell in what New York City's chief medical examiner called a suicide. Based on my review of a sample of more than 9,000 emails from 2014 to 2019 that mention Rumler's name, the exchanges offer few indications of why the gifts were given or what, if anything, Epstein expected in return. A purse from Bloomingdale's in 2017 was said to be a birthday present. And on Valentine's Day in 2018, Epstein treated Rummler to a Glam Squad hair and makeup appointment. At least twice he sent chicken soup when she was sick, the email show. So how many of you out there have sent chicken noodle soup to somebody who's sick that you didn't really know? I'm sure everybody's out there running to the store right now to get some of that chicken noodle soup to send to a stranger. These people really think you're stupid, that's what they really think. And they're hoping beyond hope that the water carriers that are out here in the media do the job for them. Oh, well, you see, this wasn't that big of a deal. Everybody does it, yo. Full stop. No, everybody doesn't do it. Only you sick degenerates.
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Podcast Host / Epstein Chronicles Narrator
I adore him. It's like having another older brother, rummler wrote in a 2015 email to Epstein's assistant. Also buried in the DOJ's document release, a 2016 email from Epstein forwarding a flattering column I wrote for a legal publication about Rummler's work on behalf of a Dubai bank. The email appears to have been sent to executives at Swiss bank Edmund de Rothschild. Well, we know he was working for the Rothschilds, and I know that sounds like some crazy ass Alex Jones level, but it's true. According to Connolly, the bank was a client of both Epstein and Rumler, and from the emails, it appears that Epstein had facilitated her introduction to the client. Emailing Rumler in 2014 that that Edmund D. Rothschild had a DOJ problem. Without elaborating, he asked if she was prohibited from involvement. No, no prohibition, she responded. A spokesperson for the bank did not immediately respond to a request for comment. Well, well, well, what was she doing? What levers were being pulled? And did Rummler play any part in the Obama administration hiding this and covering this up? Because make no mistake, the Obama administration had all this information. They knew what was going on, they knew what Epstein was and they hit it too. So Thomas Massie the other day hit the nail on the head, but he didn't go back far enough because this shit started during Clinton's first term and it's been going on since. So all the people out here that want to pass blame, blame everybody else. I gotta tell you, it's everybody's fault. Neither side has cared about this and that's why we find ourselves in the position that we're in. But when you have somebody like Katherine Rumler who is this high up, who is somebody that's the White House counsel and they're being asked to step in and, you know, help out with the doj, that's a problem and if Prince Andrew and Mandelson are going to get hemmed up, don't you think that people that were in a position like Rummlers here in America should also face serious scrutiny? I most certainly do. Reuters was unable to establish what issue Epstein was referring to, or whether Rummler was ultimately retained to work on it. Rummler's bounty from Epstein included a Hermes purse priced at $9,350 in 2016 and a Fendi coat and bag costing 6,800 in August of 2018, according to emails released by the DOJ. Other gifts include wine, flowers and a massage at the Four Seasons in Washington, D.C. the email show Boy, must be nice, huh? Out here on the predator's dime getting your legs rubbed. Hope you enjoy yourself because I can assure you that the girls that were involved with massaging Jeffrey Epstein and his gross ass friends, they didn't have very much fun. Should Rummler have known better than to accept? With the benefit of hindsight, it seems easy to say yes and to see Epstein's campaign of largesse as a deliberate move to get a leading lawyer in his corner, even unofficially. Still running cover for your friend here, huh? Let's just face it, Kathryn Ruemmler piece of shit. Okay? Point blank period. No cover. That's it. That's what she is. And this is why I'm calling for a special counsel. Someone that goes back and looks at everything. Obama, Bush, Clinton, everybody. Everything has to be on the table. In 2018, the Miami Herald and other news outlets reported in detail on allegations of of sexual abuse by teen girls against Epstein. Oh stop it. It was widely reported the first time around. Don't even sit here for a minute and act like you had no idea. That shit is not gonna work. Rumler spokesperson said her views on Epstein were shaped by his denial of any wrongdoing other than what he had pled guilty to years prior and that if she had known what she knows now, she never would have dealt with them at all. By the nature of their practice, criminal defense lawyers are going to have relationships with unsavory people. What lawyers need to keep in mind is whether such relationships could reflect poorly on their firm or company, said Downey Law Group founder Michael Downey, whose firm focuses on legal ethics and lawyer discipline defense, especially if gifts or favors are involved. The rules of professional conduct don't necessarily come into play, he said. Instead, it's ultimately a question of judgment. Well, folks, I don't think there's any question that she used poor judgment and while she was having a great time getting her massage and having her Hermes bag. That Epstein bill is now due and Katherine Rumler is paying up with interest. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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