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Lesley Groff And The Transcript From Her Epstein Related Trip to Congress (Part 2) (7/2/26)
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Lesley Groff told the House Oversight Committee that she worked for Jeffrey Epstein from February 2001 until July 2019 as his secretary/administrative assistant, handling scheduling, calls, travel coordination, calendars, and staff logistics. Her...
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Leslie Groff
What's up everyone, and welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're picking up where we left off with a Leslie Groff transcript from her interview with Congress. Ms. Tolan thank you, Mr. Emmer. We've had another member join. Can she please announce herself for the Record? Melanie Stansberry, New Mexico, 1st congressional district Mr. Toland, the time reads 10:20 and the majority's time will begin now. The questions are being asked by Ms. Tolan. Question thank you for appearing here today. We appreciate your assistance in the investigation. I'm going to go through a few background questions. Some might be repetitive from your opening statement. Just so the record is clear, where were you born? Dallas, Texas. Question and what year were you born? 1966. Question and can you briefly describe your professional career for the committee? My professional career? Yes. My first job Question Yes. My first job was when I was in fifth grade. I walked from elementary school to a little preschool to help my mother teach dance to little girls that worked there. Not worked there, went there. And then in seventh grade, I believe I started working for my father was an entrepreneur. He owned his own construction company and my sister and I would stack bricks and scrape windows of the homes that he built. I also worked four Fridays as a hostess and I taught dance when I was in 11th and 12th grade. During college, I worked at Chili's as a waitress. And then when I moved to New Jersey, I worked for my first husband in his office supply company. It was a commercial office supply company. I was there as a customer service rep. And then after that I worked for Nordstrom's. I sold men's clothing. And then after that I got the job with Mr. Epstein. And what year was that? That was 2001. And when did your employment with Mr. Epstein end? 2019. And were you working the same position that entire time? Yes. Executive Secretary. Is that correct? Executive Secretary. And were there any breaks in your employment or was it all the way through from 2001 to 2019? I mean, no official breaks except when I was pregnant. I definitely went on maternity leave for about three or four months. And are you currently employed? I am not. Do you currently receive any income? I do not. Question Tell me about the first time you interacted with Jeffrey Epstein. That would be on the day I went for the interview. I first met, I believe, with Ms. Maxwell's assistant, and then I met with Ms. Maxwell, and then I met with Mr. Epstein in his office, and he interviewed me. It was rather quick, maybe like 10 minutes. I sat in front of his desk and I noticed that the phone kept ringing and he would take the calls, speak briefly, and then hung up and then speak with me again. Question and this was also in 2001. Do you recall the month or the date on that? I believe it was February, I believe. Question February 2001, huh? We've had another member join. Can he please announce himself for the record? Andy Biggs, Arizona Brignac. Ms. Groff, who was redacted, Ms. Maxwell's assistant at the time, answers Leslie Groff. Questions by Ms. Tolan once again. Question and where did this interview take place again? Answer at 457 Madison Avenue. It was Helmsley Palace. Question and how did you receive the opportunity to get the interview? Answer Right. So a headhunter had called me for a position at the New York Knicks. He had found my resume on monster.com. he had his own business, but unfortunately, I couldn't get to the city when he wanted me to. And by the time I got in, the position for the New York Knicks was already taken. And once he met me, he consulted with some other people in the office and came back to me and said, you know, we might have another position if you're interested. It'd be working for one man who, you know, you'd organize his life. He's a socialite. He's a businessman. It sounded, you know, exciting. And he asked me if I had time that he would call this gentleman and see if I could actually go down for an interview that day. And amazingly, he was available. And I actually walked up to the Helmsley palace, and that was the interview. Question and you mentioned speaking with Mr. Epstein and he was taking calls. What was he like during the interview? Answer he was very businesslike. I mean, just businesslike and professional. And what did he ask you during the interview? Where I had worked before. So I let him know about the office supply company and Nordstrom's because those were my most recent jobs. He asked me if I, you know, was able to use a computer, if I had worked on a computer before. And you know, I could type, you know, things along those lines. Do you recall any other discussions you may have had with him? It's so long ago. I think it was all just very basic. Mr. Emmer jumps in. We've had another member join. Can you please announce himself for the record? Congressman Stephen lynch from Massachusetts, a district. Back to Ms. Tolan asking questions. And did you also interview with Glenn Maxwell? I did her first, yeah. And what was she like during the interview? She was professional, friendly, wanted to make sure kind of the same things, you know, could I use a computer or type? Was I okay with fast paced atmosphere, wanted to know my background, you know, question. Did she interview with anyone else besides Maxwell and Epstein? I did speak with redacted at the beginning, just a little bit, and it was probably more of the same. She probably just introduced herself to me and let me know a little bit about the office question. And you said you became his assistant or executive secretary about a week later, is that correct? Correct. And did he offer you employment? I'm not sure if it was him or Ms. Maxwell who may have called. It probably was Ms. Maxwell. That seems to make more sense. Brignac was redacted, leaving the office. Groff.
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Bretzky
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Leslie Groff
She was not. She left about a year later after I started. Ms. Tolan, and you stated that your initial offer included a $50,000 salary, is that correct? That's correct. Were there any other benefits tied to the job? Healthcare, housing, anything like that? I believe healthcare was also offered, yes. Anything else? Not at the time. And you mentioned this, I believe, in your opening statement. But when you were given a job initially, were you aware that you'd be Scheduling massages for Mr. Epstein? Not at the initial first when I first spoke to him about the interview, but after I started, yes. That was one of the things that was definitely spoken about, that a massage would be part of his day and it was all treated very normally. Who told you that? I believe it was Ms. Maxwell. Redacted, probably. Redacted. It was just known in the office. Ms. Brignac. And who is going to train you in how to schedule these massages? Were you told at the beginning? Grof? Yes, I was told at the beginning. I'm sure it was redacted. And all of them, probably everybody took a hand in helping me. You know, there was a lot to learn. It was, you know, very fast paced, two phones on my desk. It was overwhelming. Brynjak, did you find anything about the massage scheduling to be odd when you first started? Grof? Absolutely not. It was just like any other appointment it was like going to the gym. It was very normal. Timmons did you schedule Sorry? Did you ever schedule any of the other assistants for massages? Grof no. Timmons so everybody that you schedule for a massage seem like they possibly were a massage therapist? Grof I believe that yes. Back to Tolan. And what did you know about Mr. Epstein prior to meeting him? Answer Nothing. Nothing. I wasn't even told who I was going to meet until I got there.
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Leslie Groff
Question had you heard anything about him? No. Question well, next question. Did anyone raise concerns about Mr. Epstein to you? Answer no. Question. And what were your first impressions of Mr. Epstein? Answer that he was powerful, knew a lot of important people, professional, businesslike, super busy, standoffish. You know, we didn't have conversations. It was just about business and what he wanted accomplish that day. Did you immediately understand him to be wealthy? Yes. Did you know how he acquired his money? I didn't know. I believed he was a money manager. How did you come to learn that? I think it was just talked about in the office with all the other administrative staff. Brignac so when you accepted the job offer, what did you understand about the position? Grof I believed he was a money manager. Managed other people's money. Brignac Was that told to you in the interview? Groff I assume it was that he was a money manager. Tolan and how many clients did Mr. Epstein have during the period of your employment? Well, it's hard for me to say. I definitely know his biggest client was Les Wexner. And then he had some other clients as well. Can you name them? Can I name them? I think it was Rothschild. You know, it was some other big names. You he talked to Mord Zuckerman. I don't know if he was a client. Nothing's coming to mind. But there were definitely important people calling. Question did you ever communicate directly with the clients? Just answering a phone call and passing the phone call through to Mr. Epstein. And were they frequent visitors to Mr. Epstein, the business people? Question Yes, I wouldn't say frequent. Every so often. And did you Ever conduct any work for any of those individuals? Answer. No. Question. We're going to get into more specifics later, but for now, just some general questions. Can you briefly describe the extent of your relationship with Mr. Epstein? Answer. Sure. I would say the relationship is hardly a relationship. It was very, very business, professional. I was not close to him whatsoever. And I do believe that's exactly the way he wanted it. Mr. Emmer, we've had another member join. Can she please announce herself for the record? Yasmin Ansari, Arizona's third District. Back to Brignac. Question. The headhunter could tell you or tell us a bit more about how you came into contact with this person? Answer. Of course he called me because he saw my resume on monster.com. he had his own firm. And I know his name was Russell. I can't remember his last name, but it was his own firm. And. And he said he called me in for the New York Knicks job and I went to the city to meet him. Question. And what was the name of his firm? I don't recall. I don't recall. It was on Madison Avenue, I believe. And you know, I come to Mr. Epstein, someone might have been. Ms. Maxwell. Redacted. Somebody hired his firm, Russell's firm, to find a secretary. So were other employees of Epstein procured from this firm? I'm not sure. You likely worked in assisting to recruit other assistants and employees for Epstein. Did you use his firm? Actually, I did not. That was not under my heading. I never contacted any headhunter firms or was in charge of recruiting. Do I recall interviewing some women when he wanted. I was actually thinking he wanted to replace me, but perhaps it was, you know, he just wanted another executive assistant. But that was one time. But I don't know where exactly what that firm that came from. And did you work for Mr. Epstein until he died in 2019? No, not until he died. I actually resigned prior to that. Why? It was time for me to resign. I discussed it with, you know, my family, and I wanted to leave. And what was the date of your resignation? I don't know the exact date. I believe it was July of 2019. Brignac, what was the reason you left? What was the reason I left? I didn't understand what was going on. And I didn't want to be with them, associated with them anymore. Brignac, what took place that brought those feelings of confusion? Grof. Well, he was arrested. And that was. That was scary to me. I didn't like that. I didn't want to be associated with him. I didn't understand what was going on? Ms. Tolan, did you have those same feelings after his first arrest in 2006? That was a different time, actually. He explained to me that he was being blackmailed and it was all this big false. And I believed him. And it appeared to me everybody in the office felt the same way. He was very good at manipulating, very good liar. We can all see that. And at the time, I actually felt sorry for him. I thought, wow, this must be really difficult to be a wealthy person and not know who you can trust, because everybody just wants your money. Question did you ever doubt what he told you or ever think the allegations were true? Answer no, I did not. All right, folks, we're going to wrap up right here. And in the next episode dealing with the topic, we're going to pick up where we left off. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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