Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And Her Lack Of Remorse (6/4/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Mega Edition – Ghislaine Maxwell and Her Lack of Remorse

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: June 5, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this “Mega Edition” episode, Bobby Capucci delves deeply into the origins, dynamics, and motivations behind the notorious partnership of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Focusing on Maxwell’s background, her relationship with her father Robert Maxwell, and her lack of remorse, Bobby synthesizes fresh reporting, recent documentaries, and persistent media narratives to separate fact from fiction and expose the mechanics of the Epstein-Maxwell criminal enterprise. Throughout, he challenges sanitized or sympathetic portrayals of Ghislaine Maxwell, dissecting the ways media, powerful associates, and legal maneuverings have shielded both Epstein and Maxwell from full accountability.

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Key Discussion Points and Insights

1. Origins of the Epstein-Maxwell Relationship

Timestamp: 00:31–05:55

• Bobby questions the true beginnings of Epstein and Maxwell's partnership, dismissing the narrative that they were romantically involved.
• Quote:

  “I've always thought that it was a business arrangement... all signs point to this being a business relationship.” —Bobby (00:33)

• Recent Forbes and Sun articles, plus a “Broken Seeking Justice” podcast, suggest Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine’s disgraced father, orchestrated their introduction.
• Quote:

  “Robert Maxwell played a huge role at the beginning, folks, at the beginning of setting this all in motion and making sure that somebody that he could trust... was involved. And that somebody was his daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell.” —Bobby (04:43)

• Multiple sources back the story, including a former Epstein staffer who learned directly from Ghislaine that Epstein “was someone who could take care of her emotionally,” but it wasn’t about the money.

2. The Role of Robert Maxwell and the Origins of Epstein’s Wealth

Timestamp: 05:55–13:51

• Bobby argues Robert Maxwell was likely an early financier of Epstein, supporting the theory that these funds fueled the blackmail operation.
• Cites the still-missing $590 million looted by Robert Maxwell before his 1991 death—a fact Bobby links to Epstein’s later fortune.
• Quote:

  “If you think for a minute that Robert Maxwell went to his grave leaving none of that money around for the operation or for his kids, well, you're being very naive.” —Bobby (13:17)

• Highlights historic intelligence connections and the mysterious circumstances surrounding Robert Maxwell’s death as strongly suggestive of a much bigger operation.

3. Ghislaine Maxwell’s Learned Predatory Tactics

Timestamp: 05:59–09:12; 13:51–17:56

• Bobby points to Ghislaine’s “training” at her father’s side, learning manipulation and deceit.
• Survivor Maria Farmer recounts Ghislaine’s direct role in recruiting girls, corroborated by observations of Maxwell’s cold and calculating demeanor.
• Describes Maxwell’s methods as textbook “asset procurement” in the context of intelligence operations, with “nubiles” (underage girls) used as bait for blackmail.

4. The Sandbagged Legal System and Socialite Impunity

Timestamp: 18:45–30:09

• Bobby critiques documentaries and mainstream media for soft-pedaling Maxwell’s role, often depicting her more as a victim or pawn than a leader.
• Quote:

  “They got to be more brave, have more courage and dig deeper and be willing to go into places nobody else is willing to go.” —Bobby (21:43)

• Draws attention to the double standards that protect the rich and powerful, referencing Epstein’s sweetheart deal and the immunity it offered Ghislaine and other co-conspirators.
• Expresses frustration at media avoidance of pressing allegations against “powerful men” implicated in trafficking, and questions the lack of “Mann Act” charges against Maxwell.
• Quote:

  “The only sin to these people, folks, is if you’re broke.” —Bobby (26:38)

5. Dissecting the “Victim” Narrative and Ghislaine’s True Nature

Timestamp: 30:09–41:00

• Bobby mocks attempts to portray Ghislaine as a vulnerable woman driven by daddy issues or romantic delusion.
• Quote:

  “Nobody was manipulating her, nobody was dog walking her, and she is way too smart to act the fool here.” —Bobby (34:32)

• Asserts that Maxwell’s relationship with Epstein was never romantic—it was always calculated, transactional, and focused on power, access, and mutual benefit.
• Testimony from former friends, lawyers, and victims uniformly describe Maxwell as cold, calculating, “a traitor to her sex, and even monstrous.”
• Bobby is adamant this is not a case of “love gone wrong” but a “clinical, surgically precise operation” to harvest kompromat.

6. The Ongoing Cover-Up, Justice Delayed, and Maxwell’s Lack of Remorse

Timestamp: 41:00–end (~45:00)

• Bobby references the network’s potential resilience and the inadequacy of intelligence agencies, stating only a concerned parent (not global agencies) cracked the case.
• Quote:

  “Justice ultimately failed Epstein’s survivors... all there is is shame, disdain, and hopefully a long, long prison sentence [for Maxwell].” —Bobby (43:35)

• Stresses there is “no redemption” for Maxwell; her choices left a trail of victims and unanswered questions.
• Hints at more to come in trial coverage and promises ongoing updates.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “The intelligence version of match.com.” —Bobby, on Ghislaine’s introduction to Epstein via her father (09:19)
• “Information, on the other hand, is like gold. It's worth more to these people than actual money.” —Bobby (37:57)
• “I have no sympathy for her as she languishes in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention center...” —Bobby (26:51)
• “This was and always has been a clinical, surgically precise operation.” —Bobby (11:16)

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Timeline of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic/Quote | |------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 00:31 | Introduction: Nature of Epstein-Maxwell relationship | | 03:12 | Robert Maxwell’s alleged role as financier and matchmaker | | 05:55 | Ghislaine Maxwell’s early manipulative training | | 09:19 | Intelligence as matchmaking: “the intelligence version of match.com” | | 13:51 | Missing millions from Robert Maxwell, speculation about where money went | | 17:56 | Narrative that Robert Maxwell set everything into motion | | 18:45 | Critique of documentaries and mainstream media’s soft coverage | | 26:51 | No sympathy for Maxwell in jail; double standards of justice | | 30:09 | Documentary’s portrayal of Ghislaine as victim; Bobby dissects & refutes | | 34:32 | “Nobody was manipulating her, nobody was dog walking her...” | | 37:57 | Information vs. money for elite power players | | 41:00 | The failure of law enforcement and intelligence responders | | 43:35 | “No redemption... all there is is shame, disdain, and hopefully a long prison sentence”|

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Closing Thoughts

Bobby Capucci’s analysis in this episode pulls no punches. He deconstructs the “Maxwell as victim” angle and calls out media, documentary-makers, and the justice system for their complicity, cowardice, or mediocrity in holding the elite to account. Through survivor testimony, financial analysis, and investigative reporting, Bobby builds a case for Maxwell’s full leadership role—and utter lack of remorse—in one of modern history’s most notorious criminal conspiracies.

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Contact and Further Information:
All links and referenced articles are available in the episode description.
Contact Bobby at: [e-mail] or on Twitter: @bobbycapucci

Transcript

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I've always wondered how Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell came to be. How was their relationship fostered? Who introduced them? Was it on purpose? One thing I can tell you, in my opinion, is that there was never any love in this quote, unquote relationship. I have always thought that it was a business arrangement. From the sources that I've spoke with, from the information that I've seen, I have never seen anything that would point me to them being in love with each other. In fact, all signs point to this being a business relationship. Today, Forbes has an article out talking about how Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly met Jeffrey Epstein through her pops. And now we've talked about this previously, the sun had an article out talking about how Robert Maxwell supposedly bankrolled Jeffrey Epstein. And I've thought that for a very long time, right? I've said that for quite some time here that it wasn't only Les Wexner giving Jeffrey Epstein money. That's absurd to think that that would be the only person that was bankrolling this. This was a vast, vast cell of people who had one goal in mind, setting up this blackmail operation. And in my opinion, Robert Maxwell laid the groundwork for it all to start before he died. I think that Robert Maxwell played a huge role in getting this off the ground. And I think he was a key component to in bringing Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell together. I've said that for quite some time and I still believe that I have seen nothing that would change my mind and point me in the direction that Jeffrey Epstein was in love with Ghislaine Maxwell. I'm sorry, but that just does not smell like a good meal for me. All right, so let's jump in here and and see what Forbes has to say about it all. Headline, Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly met Jeffrey Epstein

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through her disgraced father, author Lizette Voitko.

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Top line Ghislaine Maxwell, alleged recruiter of Jeffrey Epstein's Sex Ring of Underage Girls Co Conspirator, fellow child abuser, general all around scumbag, is awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges and reportedly met the now

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dead financier pedophile through her father, the

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tabloid colossus Robert Maxwell. According to a new podcast on Epstein's dark web of abuse. And he might have been one early source of Epstein's wealth catapulted him into the upper echelon of society. Yeah, it's rather obvious that Robert Maxwell had his pocketbook open for Jeffrey Epstein. If they were thinking about this blackmail ring, if they had this plan in place, the blueprint of it, well, all they needed were the players on the stage. And Jeffrey Epstein was the perfect candidate. He already had disgusting proclivities that were well known, and they knew that he was malleable. Enough money here, enough money there, he can be steered in the right direction. And then for the kicker, you bring in Ghislaine Maxwell to make sure that everything runs smoothly. See how it all comes together here, folks. Key facts. According to the latest episode of Broken Seeking justice podcast, Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell met as early as 1988 through her father, said convicted Ponzi schemer Steve Hoffenberg, who once worked with Epstein, who also claims for the first time that Epstein and Robert Maxwell had business dealings together, although the podcast could not corroborate this. Well, there's a lot of talk about it, right? There's a lot of whispering, a lot of things being said about Robert Maxwell and his role in getting all of this off the ground. And I think we'll hear more of that as the trial gets closer. And if more people obviously are indicted, they will have a song to sing. Now, I'm not too sure if we're ever gonna really be able to pinpoint the origins of this or if we'll just be left to speculate. As of now, though, in my opinion, Robert Maxwell played a huge role at the beginning, folks, at the beginning of setting this all in motion and making sure that somebody that he could trust, a confidant, somebody that he knew understood what the goal was, was involved. And that somebody was his daughter, Ghislaine Maxwell. Two additional sources backed up the claim that Robert Maxwell was the person who brought his prized daughter together with Epstein, including a former Epstein staffer who. Who was told by Ghislaine Maxwell while she forced them to look at eight

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albums worth of photos from her father's funeral.

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Look, it's very obvious to me, anyway, that Ghislaine Maxwell learned her craft at her father's side on the knee of her father. While you and I were growing up and our fathers were teaching us life lessons about, you know, whatever it may be, Ghislaine's father was teaching her how to manipulate, how to scam, how to cheat, and how to plot. And those are lessons that Daddy's little girl obviously took to her black heart. Ghislaine Maxwell told the staffer that Epstein was someone who could take care of her emotionally and was firm that his finances weren't the source of her interest, according to the podcast, which aligns with reports that the pair dated at one point and remained friends. See, there's my contention there. They might have dated as a cover, but there was no love there, in my opinion. And again, it wasn't about the money like some people have stated, because even though Maxwell was disgraced, even though Maxwell lost a bunch of money, do you really think that the Maxwell family didn't have money squirreled away? Do you think that they were left with just nothing? I highly doubt that, folks. And I know that Ghislaine Maxwell had many, many different options, many different ways she could have went, but she ended up with Jeffrey Epstein. She ended up in that sphere. And when all of the information has come out and when we have the benefit of hindsight, we see that not only did she end up running around with Jeffrey Epstein as some lover or a victim, as some people would like to paint her, we see the true face. And that face is Ghislaine Maxwell had a leadership role here and was a key component in getting this off of the ground. Robert Maxwell might have been a source of Epstein's wealth, according to the podcast, citing a 2010 deposition from bookkeeper Maritza Vasquez in a Florida civil lawsuit in which she says Maxwell started Epstein's money, a claim only previously reported by tabloid the sun through an anonymous source. And it's funny that they mention, oh, the Sun's a tabloid. Well, they might be a tabloid, and they might talk about some wild shit in other areas, but they've done a good job in this Jeffrey Epstein case. And it shows you just how much of a dumpster fire the legacy media is. They're getting scooped on the Epstein case, the Sun. Imagine that. Imagine having all the resources of the BBC or CNN or one of these other garbage outlets, and you get scooped by the Sun. Vasquez also said in the deposition that Epstein had a relationship with a woman, that her father was very wealthy and that's how he started his own money.

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Of course it is.

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Golly look, so Ghislaine Maxwell was set up with Jeffrey Epstein through their.

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The.

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You know, the. The intelligence version of match.com.

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right?

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And then she was launched into his orbit, was told that she had, you know, some funds that were at her discretion, and her and Jeffrey Epstein started laying the groundwork for this criminal enterprise. All bankrolled on the back of Robert Maxwell. And whatever intelligence handlers had their palms

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on them at the time. My guess is the CIA

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lawyers from Maxwell did not respond to requests by Forbes to confirm how she met Epstein or if Robert Maxwell was a source of Epstein's wealth. Yeah, she's not gonna. You know, why would she talk about that right now? That would be stupid. So if anyone thinks we're gonna get any context from Ghislaine Maxwell or that she's going to add anything for us, you're gonna be waiting for quite some time. Critical. In addition to these accounts, there's also a photo snapped a mere 19 days after Robert Maxwell's death that intimately links Epstein and Ghislaine. Shot at the Plaza Hotel during a memorial event for Robert Maxwell. The picture shows Ghislaine and Epstein in conversation. Reporter Emily Saul says in the episode, wearing a blue silk jacket. Ghislaine smiles coyly at Epstein, who is seated to her right, wearing a white bow tie and an enormous grin. It doesn't look like a first date. That's because it's not a first date. See, I'm really glad that this broken podcast has come out and somebody with resources who is honorable, like Tara Palmeri, is involved, because she's going to get to the bottom of this kind of stuff, right? She's not going to just sit by and let this shit slide. She sees it all. Everybody sees it all. The problem is the legacy media doesn't have the courage to run it, because they're still scared of these people, and in some cases, some of their faves

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are caught up in it.

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But the fact that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein, the origin story is this. This love, this love affair that. That blossomed and then they grew apart. It's such bullshit, in my opinion. Okay? This was and always has been a clinical, surgically precise operation. Big $590 million. That's how much of pension funds stolen by Robert Maxwell from his Mirror Group publishing company went missing after his mysterious 1991 death. A presumed drowning after falling from his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, into the sea off the Canary Islands. Just. Just happens to be that he died on the. On the.

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On the boat, huh?

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Another person who just happened to commit suicide around Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and the rest of these scoundrels. They really think we're that stupid? Now, I don't have any evidence that Robert Maxwell didn't commit suicide, but when you look at all of the evidence that's lined up and you look at the players on the stage, do you really think that it's beyond any of these people to clip somebody like Maxwell out at sea if they think he's going to rat on them or expose a plan or if he has outlived his usefulness? That's what these people do. Intelligence agencies burn assets all of the time, folks. The podcast raises questions about where his money got off to after he died, since it's never been recovered. At the time of his August 2019 death by suicide, Epstein's assets totaled $578 million. And Ghislaine Maxwell had $20 million to her name at the time of her July arrest, according to prosecutors. So remember what Epstein told everybody, right? He was a forensic accountant, basically. Basically who worked for the government, who went and recovered money for the United States government. We know that he was a prolific, prolific money launderer, and we know that he had many, many front companies where he could stash this money. Now, Robert Maxwell's money still has never been found. You mean to tell me that it's out of the realm of possibility that Jeffrey Epstein somehow took control of that $590 million and did Lord only knows what with it.

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Not out of the realm and possibility

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in my book, especially considering that none of that money was in the bank. None of that money was anywhere where the government could seize it. And now, remember, folks, we're not dealing with average people here. We're dealing with people who are locked into the world of spycraft and intrigue and guys like Robert Maxwell. For as repugnant as they are, they know their shit. And if you. If you think for a minute that Robert Maxwell went to his grave leaving none of that money around for. For the operation or for his kids, well, you're being very naive. The new episode, Seeking justice, seeks to unravel the tangled mystery surrounding Ghislaine Maxwell, who's often been referred to as Epstein's alleged madam. Maria Farmer, an alleged Epstein survivor, told the podcast she would drive around Manhattan's Central park with Maxwell in the 90s, scouting for models Maxwell, Farmer said, would jump out of the car and invite girls back to Epstein's sprawling mansion and to audition. And we've we've heard from Maria about all of this stuff and how she used to call them nubiles and how mean she was and the sort of character that she possessed. This is a woman who was obviously, obviously reared in a world of intrigue. Farmer, who worked the front desk at the mansion, would sometimes see those girls come in and told the podcast she witnessed a couple of the girls crying as they left. In a November 2019 civil lawsuit against Epstein's estate, Farmer claims Epstein and Maxwell assaulted her at his New Mexico ranch in 1996, and describes the grooming and recruiting tactics allegedly used by the duo. It all goes into it, right? These are all tactics that these sort of cells, these intelligence cel, teach you. They teach you how to procure assets. In this case, those assets, it's disgusting to even say were little girls and girls, and they were used as bait, basically, for this blackmail operation. As of Wednesday, Maxwell is awaiting trial in a Brooklyn federal lockup on charges of enticing and transporting minors as part of Epstein's alleged sex ring, along with commuting, committing perjury during her 2016 depositions that are part of a defama defamation case filed by another alleged survivor, Virginia Roberts, to which she entered a not guilty plea and denied all previous allegations. So one thing that I've always wondered here is how is it that R. Kelly gets hit with violations of the Mann act, but Ghislaine Maxwell isn't facing Mann act violations here, at least not in this original set of charges. Now, as you all know, I believe that there will be a superseded indictment, and I think that more charges are going to follow. But I don't understand how she is not in violation of the Mann act. Tangent. At a 1992 Manhattan party for Ghislaine Maxwell, Maxwell's mother, Betty Maxwell, rumors flew that Epstein likes schoolgirls and Ghislaine Maxwell was helping him find them with none of the wealthy socialites in attendance questioning it, the podcast says, citing former friend and journalist Christopher Mason. So, look, folks, that's just a little bit more of the origin story of Ghislaine Maxwell. Right now. I might be completely wrong. Again, this is what, this is my working hypothesis here. I don't have. I don't have tangible evidence to prove this. I can't give you bank statements or anything like that.

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All I have to go on is

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what we know so far, and by putting the pieces of the puzzle together, and when you start to put those pieces of the puzzle together, it's rather obvious, at least to me, that Robert Maxwell was a big part of getting Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell together and putting this whole entire operation into play. If you'd like to contact me, you could do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Capuci alright folks, all of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. I will be back. I will be back.

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So today we have an article from RT.com, oh I know, the evil Russians. But to tell you the truth, I read news sources from all over the world, as you all know, and when I stumble across an article, no matter really, the publication that strikes home, I'll add that bad boy to the catalog. So the same goes here for this RT article. And considering this documentary is kind of a whitewash of Maxwell, kind of looks like it's trying to position her as a victim, I think that a nice rough opinion piece about Maxwell was in order. So again, this is from RT.com headline Guilty or innocent? Ghislaine Maxwell is a morally bankrupt monster and she's exposed in all her horror and Epstein's Shadow Documentary this article was authored by Damian Wilson. Sky's new documentary Ghislaine Maxwell Epstein's Shadow paints a vivid picture of the damaged co conspirator general all around scuzzbag and bipedal serpents infatuation with evil men and the slavish devotion that had led her to languishing in a New York prison awaiting trial. See, right off the bat, that whole premise is wrong. And you can tell that Mr. Wilson doesn't really follow the case right. He's going off what he saw in the documentary and you know, again, it is a issue that has been plaguing this case from the beginning. Way too much mud, way way too much murk in the water and not enough people just trying to cut their way through that shit to get back on the path. And I just, it makes me crazy over and over to see these same people treading the same ground instead of exploring what they really should be digging into. Binge watching all three parts of Ghislaine Maxwell Epstein's Shadow was a long way from the entertaining experience I was expecting. Far from a fast paced bawdy romp through the bad behavior of transatlantic high society, it revealed a dark, sordid and totally corrupt parallel world that left me feeling kind of sick. Yeah. Hey, welcome to the Party pal. I know I use that one a lot, but it's apartment right? John McClane definitely knew what he was talking about with that shit. Because I feel like John McClane and this whole entire case is the Nakatomi Plaza building and I'm stuck in the air ducts and trying to, you know, rid this place of these scoundrels, these vermin and all the jerk offs that are on the outside looking in are making it difficult. So I get it, right? I get it when you feel kind of sick because this whole entire case is sick, the whole entire structure of it sick. And the way it's been pursued is just as sick. One thing the author does get right though is this most certainly was a transatlantic conspiracy criminal of the higher echelons, upper society and some of the most powerful men in the world. Point blank. That's exactly what this was. Let's just call it what it is. Let's avoid all the bs, let's sidestep all the stupid ass, you know, naming of things that aren't, and let's just call it what it is. Whether it was pump priming innocent teenagers from massages and sex with her naked boyfriend, co conspirator, promising the world to wide eyed schoolgirls she was attempting to lure into their debauched orbit, launching a bonkers global campaign to sell off the world's oceans, or climbing the social ladder like a well dressed gecko. Not for a minute did I warm to Robert Maxwell's youngest daughter. Well, that's what most right thinking people will walk away from this feeling, right? But I can't shake the feeling that it's kind of a pump of Maxwell, right? They didn't go hard enough. And that's why whenever I get contacted by mainstream journalists or documentarians, a lot of times I won't even give them a response, honestly, because I. For what right for what? So they can produce a project that treads over the same old ground we've been running around for all these years. They got to be more brave, have more courage and dig deeper and be willing to go into places nobody else is willing to go. Look, all of these documentaries that have come out, how many of them have explored the allegations that Virginia has made against the powerful, powerful, powerful men who she says she was trafficked to have any of them dug deep? Leon Black, Glen Dubin, Bill Richardson? Where's all of that sort of hard charging reporting? I mean, I realize that the divisiveness sells better. I realize that having everybody at each other's throats is the better way to sell papers and the better way to govern for the criminals in charge. But for the actual populace, you know, us who are being manipulated by it, not so good. So the legacy media, with all their money, all of their resources, all of their access, can't pony up enough courage to really dig deep to go after all of these disgusting ass super elite who they say that they hate, but in reality who they aspire to be. So I have no sympathy for her as she languishes in Brooklyn's Metropolitan Detention center, denied bail and awaiting trial on charges related to the sex trafficking of mom minors for her former boyfriend and co conspirator and general all around scuzzbag and pedophile and sex beast Jeffrey Epstein. The trial is expected to start in November this year. I don't know how anyone could have sympathy for her, honestly. Look, I get it. Due process is probably one of the most important things for any of us, right? And until you are convicted, you are innocent. And Ghislaine Maxwell, under the law, is still innocent. So there's a certain level of treatment that people should get. And I'm completely on board with that. I mean, I don't know how much more clear I can be about how disgusted I am about the justice system as a whole. But that said, Ghislaine Maxwell and her friends, they're the ones who set these rules. They're the ones that put the chess pieces on the board. Now they have to live with them because I don't want to hear about how rough she had it in prison or how bad it is in lockup. That's what lockup's supposed to be. And there's zero chance that my heartstrings get tugged on by somebody like Ghislaine Maxwell, who is facing the charges she's facing with all of the mountains of evidence laid up against her. So, no, I don't feel any sympathy for her at all. In Maxwell's case, she avoided embarrassing legal questions. Oh, excuse me. We got ahead of ourselves, folks. Let's back up here. There are many who don't expect that to happen, of course, because as this thorough documentary is at pains to point out, the wealthy and powerful aren't subject to the same rules as the rest of us. There is generally a legal technicality, a plea bargain to be struck, or the friend of a friend prepared to look the other way to get someone off the hook. Well, what do you know? Who does that sound like? Who's been telling you folks that forever? A technicality. You Know, loophole. We got ourselves a rich, powerful buddy who's gonna step in while the rest of us are, you know, put up against the wall, drag out of our cars and, you know, treated like general by the authorities. But if you got a couple of bucks, it doesn't matter what you're alleged to have done, it doesn't matter what sort of criminal enterprise you're engaging in. Because at the end of the day, the only sin to these people, folks, is, is if you're broke. In Maxwell's case, she avoided embarrassing legal questions once before, when in 2008, Epstein thwarted an FBI investigation in Palm Beach, Florida, and avoided a guilty and pleaded guilty to state charges of soliciting minors for prostitution, copping a soft day release stretch of 18 months for himself. He also secured immunity for prosecution for any co conspirators to his crimes, namely Ghislaine. And all of that stuff, right? All of that stuff is part of the overall issue. When you look at things piece by piece here, a la carte, you can write it off as well. The system just failed. But when you put everything together and you have the whole entire puzzle built in front of you, it's a different picture entirely. And it's much, much sinister, much more devious and folks, downright terrifying, honestly. While the FBI probe did come back to bite the financier pedophile Epstein is now dead, having apparently chosen suicide, allegedly by his prison cells orange bed sheets rather than trial by jury. So we will never know the whole story now. Only his former lover, co conspirator remains to face the music. And as a number of legal experts predicted in the documentary, we could well see Maxwell adopt the strategy of blaming Epstein for everything without fear of his denial. Of course that's what's going to happen. You've already seen them set themselves up for that. Oh, Ghislaine, she was just a shrinking violet. She was just a rose on the vine. She had nothing to do with it. She could never do anything this evil. Braaat. Shut up. That's really what I want to say to them and that's what the jury's going to say to them too. I believe there's so much evidence going the other way that the profile they're going to try and build of Ghislaine is going to be shattered in a million pieces. And any halfway competent prosecutor

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should do

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a absolute happy dance all over these people. So I guess that means hopefully Maureen Comey's not involved. Funny how Maureen Comey is involved in this case and also Involved in prosecuting Tartaglione, huh? Hmm. Just another coincidence, folks. The documentary suggested that just like the underage girls she allegedly found in the art galleries, schools and streets of Manhattan and Palm beach so she could coerce them to having sex with Epstein and his powerful grubby pals, Maxwell will claim that she, too, is a victim in all of this. She will portray herself as a slavishly devoted handmaiden to a man who enchanted her at a vulnerable time in her life and for whom she would have done anything. Absolute garbage, folks.

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Absolute.

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Straight up bs. Maxwell knew Epstein before her father died. This shit was kicked into effect after her father died. And the whole premise that Ghislaine Maxwell was a vulnerable person at this time is absolute trash. People like her are never vulnerable. This is nonsense and rubbished by the former friends, lawyers, and most of all, the victims who Maxwell has left in her wake. What the documentary makes perfectly obvious is that she is a cold, calculating, and damaged woman who believes she operates on a higher plane than the rest of us. And her arrest, detention, and ample misfortune are all just some silly mistake. And that's how they all feel, right? That's how they all roll. Oh, this is just a mistake. I had nothing to do with this. Come on. This couldn't be me. You see how much money I donate? You see how much money I spread around? And that's their shield, right? That's their armor that they wrap themselves in, all of their supposed good deeds. We all do good deeds, right? We all do things to help other people. But in their twisted mind, the fact that they have some kind of charity or the fact that they might have donated some money, well, that's all the shielding they need. All the armor they need. While it spent some time exploring Maxwell's familial setup, it's impossible to watch this investigation without shuddering at the parallels between her relationship with Epstein and that which she enjoyed with her corrupt, now dead father, the brutish Bob Maxwell. Again, I don't buy into any of that. I might be, you know, off or wrong or whatever here, but for me, Ghislaine Maxwell was very calculating, very cold, very shrewd, and she knew exactly what she was doing. Nobody was manipulating her, nobody was dog walking her, and she is way too smart to act the fool here. And as she jumps out of this proverbial plane, well, we're not gonna give her that parachute. As former Oxford University pal Anna Pasternak points out, Ghislaine's story is essentially his daddy's little girl. And it went horribly wrong when daddy turned out to be a crook. Oh yeah, I'm sure that that's all it was. You know, just be Robert Maxwell being a crook. That's what led Ghislaine down this, this alley. That's what made her this disgusting predator. I know we should all feel bad for her. Said nobody with a brain. She continues. It's quite easy to see why a girl who had this father fixation, who was a daddy's girl, would move on to this equally satanic father figure and do his bidding at whatever cost. Oh, shut up, man. So this is the narrative, huh? Here it is folks. You know, you always say our true enemy has not really revealed himself yet like in Star Wars. That's the case here. And it's the true enemy is starting to reveal itself, right? Which is obviously all of these scuzzbag so called elites and their puppets in the media and you see them trying to lay a little cover fire down for her in a roundabout way here. Oh, going to dig up all of these ex pals of hers from college. Oh, she was a daddy's girl. And the issues with Bob Maxwell caused her to be this fragile person who was easily manipulated by Jeffrey Epstein. That's what they want you to believe. Question is, will you college? While it is understandable that the daughter who just lost the most influential, influential figure in her life might simply have replaced like for like the documentary found that Maxwell had in fact been introduced to Epstein by her father in the 1980s when the financier and the corpulent pension thief were involved together in arms dealing and the shady world of Israeli intelligence. Oh, wait a minute. Intelligence? I thought that angle was a conspiracy theory. Isn't that what some people said? That this was just an evil man and his friends conducting this business. Of course it wasn't. And of course Epstein and Maxwell weren't members of the Mossad or the CIA or any of anything like that. Anybody running you that line, folks, you should be very, very, very, very cautious of anything else that comes out of their mouth. It's a big difference between being an actual spy and being an asset. And what Maxwell and Epstein and the whole operation were in my opinion, were assets. So the fact that Maxwell knew Epstein before her father died, it just completely torpedoes the whole entire theory that everybody was running with the whole legacy media and all the people that thought they knew about the ca. No, you were wrong. Sorry. Okay. Had nothing to do with love, folks. With Epstein and Maxwell, there was never any kind of love.

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Oh, they could have been faking the funk. How many people fake the funk? All the time. A real good narcissist is great at that, aren't they? So when Ghislaine resurfaced in New York after Captain Bob went overboard on his

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yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, in the middle

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of the night near the Canary Islands in 1991, she already had someone to turn to. A provider, a father figure, even Epstein. More like a partner. Okay, a co conspirator and a general all around scumbag. Several long term acquaintances. No one describes themselves as a friend of the disgraced socialite, co conspirator, bipedal serpent. Recall, the relationship between Ghislaine and Epstein always seemed more transactional rather than sexual or romantic. Oh, well, what do you know? Of course it did, because it wasn't romantic. I've had that feeling in my stomach for a very long time. And from the people I've talked to that were around them, people who knew them personally. For me, it is rather obvious what was going on here. This is the age old intelligence operation. Running assets, moving pieces on the chessboard, all for the simple goal of collecting information and compromise. What do I tell you all the time here about information? It is worth more to these people than actual money. They have money in such an abundance, they have to weigh it when they count it. Information, on the other hand, is like gold. It's suggested that she longed to be Ms. Epstein. But even in a court deposition, when asked if she would describe herself as his girlfriend, Ghislaine Demers. That's a tricky question. Surely a simple yes or no works here. She wasn't his boyfriend. Okay, I'm sorry, I don't mean to keep railing on this part, but I think it's very important that we hammer this out. And I'm just not going to accept that portion of the narrative, folks. I'm just not going to do it. I'm going to challenge it at every turn and we're going to talk about it all the time here, because there's no way that these people were in love or anything like that. All of this was a big, gigantic ruse. And they were both playing a part, in my opinion. In fact, I'm just convinced of that at this point. It would take some earth shattering evidence to knock me off of that perch. Ghislaine clearly doesn't use our social framework. Boyfriends, girlfriends. Who you are sleeping with is not important. It's the influence you can derive from the relationship that matters. What doors do they open? Who do they know? Can you trust them? Falling deeply in love with someone is a waste of time if there's nothing in it for you. And that's ex. That's exactly right. I definitely agree with that assessment. Ghislaine Maxwell is cold, calculating and all of that stuff that you could possibly imagine. And to think that anyone would try and run some kind of COVID story for her or try and soften the blow is just mind boggling to me. And how people could miss this is also mind boggling to me. I don't know the woman personally, although I do do know a few of those among the interviewed on the documentary. And when they chose to call her cold, calculating, distant, a traitor to her sex, and even monstrous. These are folk, remember, who once called her a friend? Then I accept their appraisal. It's true, right? If these were people that were around her friends, and this is what they say about her character, are you gonna believe that or what her family and lawyers are trying to pitch? You see, folks, I'm looking at the whole picture here, all of the evidence as one, and we're getting closer to that trial. It's already July, and as this evidence builds up, it's rather obvious what's going on here, what occurred here, and who was involved. For the next chapter in this sordid tale, we will just have to wait. Although for the numerous women demanding justice, this really is too much. Most of those would have preferred Epstein to face trial rather than to take the cowardly route out. And while Maxwell may yet engineer a fix to her problems, she will most likely end up in jail for her alleged crimes. Most likely? Oh, she's going to end up in jail, folks. There's no doubt about that. The question is, who's she going to take with her? The remarkable thing is that the network Epstein built, trafficking young girls handpicked by his house madam around the world on private jets so filthy old men could have sex with them, might still be in full swing if not for a Florida mum. Suspicion. Imagine that, huh? All of these great CIA people, NSA people, people who are tapping the phones of journalists, world leaders, every phone call you send out, every text, every email, metadata collection. But they have no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was up to. They had no idea the communications Jeffrey Epstein was making, and they certainly had no idea he was engaged in a trafficking ring. Yeah, okay, right, sure.

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Such a joke.

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And how people believe this nonsense is beyond me. The gaslighting that occurs, the cognitive dissonance, and the people who just are so caught up in they're being a demagogue that they can't see the forest through the trees. When she discovered an unexplained $300 in her daughter's trouser pocket after she had just returned from a visit to the Palm beach home of a rich, powerful man, the concerned parent sounded the alarm. Justice ultimately failed Epstein's survivors. And although his pedophile network is no longer operating, there is a woman who holds many of the answers to what went on, currently sitting in a prison cell before trial. When or if she chooses to speak later this year, the world will be listening. It is Maxwell's final chance of redemption. No, it's not. There is no redemption here. No rehabilitation, nothing. All there is is shame, disdain, and hopefully a long, long prison sentence. If you'd like to contact me, you can do [e-mail] that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter Obby Capucci. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. To everybody who has donated to the podcast.