Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And Her Most Cherished Forever Friend (7/26/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles – Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And Her Most Cherished Forever Friend

Host: Bobby Capucci
Release Date: July 26, 2026

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Episode Overview

This “Mega Edition” of The Epstein Chronicles, hosted by Bobby Capucci, explores the enduring relationship between Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew amid ongoing revelations about Jeffrey Epstein’s trafficking network. The episode dives into recent articles, court documents, and personal analysis, focusing on the double standards in justice between the rich and the poor, the mechanisms of elite protection, and new evidence regarding Maxwell and Andrew’s ongoing contact. Capucci’s direct and unsparing tone aims to dismantle PR narratives and highlight the realities and responses surrounding these notorious figures.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Two-Tier Justice System & Media Complicity

[01:06–03:44, 05:46–06:18, etc.]

• Capucci opens with a sharp critique of the justice system, emphasizing how the poor face harsher consequences for petty crimes, whereas the rich and connected frequently escape scrutiny.
• He parallels this disparity with the Epstein case, noting:

  “Epstein didn’t go after rich girls, right? He didn’t go after the members of the golf clubs that he hung out in. Daughters? No. He went and looked for vulnerable girls from poorish backgrounds, lower middle class backgrounds that he could bring into his orbit and then exploit.” (03:40)

• Shows like Cops are criticized for exploiting the vulnerable, while white-collar and elite crimes go largely untelevised and unpunished.

2. Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell: Untouchable by Design?

[07:35–09:04, 16:55–18:20, and 33:40–36:14]

• Capucci discusses recent claims of Prince Andrew’s bewilderment at US prosecutors' requests and mocks his assertions of being treated as a "second class citizen":

  “He has the audacity to say he is a second class citizen. I have news for you, Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. Nobody cares what you have to say. Nobody's listening and certainly nobody believes you.” (10:23)

• He notes the glaring absence of elite criminals like Andrew and Maxwell from public shaming and aggressive law enforcement tactics, contrasting this with their treatment of the poor.

3. Ghislaine Maxwell: The Keystone in the Epstein Operation

[12:39–16:55, 24:33–28:56, 42:20–47:30]

• Capucci unpacks Maxwell’s centrality: orchestrating recruitment, enabling abuse, and allegedly participating in blackmail schemes.
• He references quotes from former Maxwell associates, such as Christina Oxenberg, and highlights Maxwell's own lack of remorse:

  “She felt no compunction about telling me this. If anything, she was proud.” (13:54, quoting Oxenberg).

• The episode underscores Maxwell’s calculated efforts to shield herself, sue Epstein’s estate for legal fees, and leverage her "dirt" on others for protection.

4. The Enduring Bond Between Maxwell and Prince Andrew

[17:31–25:08]

• Capucci cites Laura Goldman and reports that Maxwell and Andrew have remained in frequent contact—even as public scrutiny intensifies.
• He breaks down the implications and optics of their relationship, theorizing a deeper alliance than publicly acknowledged:

  “I think that they might have had a sexual relationship, folks. I can't prove that right now…but I believe that they were involved romantically at one point…” (25:09)

• Maxwell’s reluctance to clear Andrew’s name, despite her affection for him, is chalked up to self-preservation.

5. Media Failure and Public Awakening

[28:56–30:25, 37:56–38:00, 58:19–58:33]

• Capucci lambasts legacy media for ignoring or burying the Epstein story for years, allowing victims’ voices to be drowned out:

  “Unless you really were locked into this case, what you're going to learn from watching ABC News or NBC News or CBS News or at CNN News or MSNBC News or Fox News, you're not going to learn any of this stuff, folks.” (28:57)

• The Netflix documentary Filthy Rich is credited for raising public awareness beyond what mainstream outlets provided.

6. Explosive Court Documents: The Email Chain

[33:40–43:12]

• Capucci details newly unsealed documents showing Prince Andrew emailing Maxwell for advice about Virginia Roberts ("Got some specific questions to ask you about Virginia Roberts" – 41:55).
• This contradicts both Andrew’s and Maxwell’s public denials of knowing Roberts and exposes the hollowness of their defense strategies.

7. Denials, Gaslighting, and the “Tissue of Lies”

[43:12–55:04, 55:04–58:16]

• The team systematically debunks Maxwell’s deposition statements—her attempts to discredit Roberts, her claims about the “impossibility” of sexual encounters in her bathroom, and her overall denial of wrongdoing.
• Capucci highlights Maxwell’s volatile behavior during depositions, including outbursts and table-pounding fits:

  “Maxwell… shouted insults, struck the table, and called the claims a giant, fat, enormous, repulsive, disgusting, inappropriate, vile lie.” (55:04)

8. Systemic Enabling and the Collapse of Protection

[58:16–59:30, 58:34–end]

• A recurring theme: Maxwell, Epstein, and their network were aided by high-placed friends, immense wealth, and captured authorities.
• Capucci argues that this shield is deteriorating, leaving Maxwell and others increasingly exposed:

  “But now that well of friendship has run dry, Ghislaine Maxwell has been left twisting in the wind. And the rest of the operatives who worked with them… well, you folks are directly in the crosshairs.” (58:34)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On the two-tier justice system:
  “Meanwhile some rich dude gets pulled over with a bunch of powdered cocaine and old boy gets right off. I don't like the disparity. And when I talk about a two-tiered justice system, folks, I mean… in general, the two-tier justice system is such a draconian, outdated, disgusting way of doing things.” (02:53)

• On Prince Andrew’s narrative:
  “Nobody believes you. Prince Andrew. Laura Goldman… revealed [Maxwell] continues to text and call her friends. Protected by wealthy connections… Maxwell… is confident that she has enough dirt on enough powerful people that she'll be able to evade prosecution…” (17:57, 18:34)

• On Ghislaine Maxwell’s denials:
  “I do not have any recollection of it and I doubt it actually happened. Her tissue of lies is extremely hard to pick apart…” (43:50)

• On Maxwell’s relationship to Epstein:
  “A tricky question. Of course it is, because you were never his girlfriend. You were associates, you were business partners, and all of that other was just a front. I am convinced of that at this point.” (54:00)

• On systemic rot:
  “How can we have any confidence in the people who are our so-called rulers if they're letting this go on, if they're being involved with people like Jeffrey Epstein?” (45:23)

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Important Timestamps

| Timestamp | Segment & Content | |----------------------|----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:06–03:44 | Introduction to the (mis)representation of justice, analysis of the “Cops” TV show, and its parallels to Epstein. | | 07:35–09:04 | Analysis of Prince Andrew’s behavior and privilege; comparison to the experiences of the poor. | | 12:39–16:55 | Ghislaine Maxwell’s key role in the Epstein operation, her legal maneuvers, and public exposure. | | 17:31–25:08 | Reports on Andrew & Maxwell’s ongoing communications; speculation about their relationship’s true depth. | | 33:40–43:12 | Breakdown of unsealed emails revealing Andrew’s knowledge of and involvement with Virginia Roberts. | | 43:12–55:04 | Maxwell’s deposition, her denials, outbursts, and refutation by court documents. | | 58:16–end | Capucci’s summary: systemic protection, collapse of elite immunity, and calls for accountability. |

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Tone and Style

• Direct, unsparing, and conversational – Capucci pulls no punches, freely interjecting personal analysis and mockery of the elite figures involved.
• Loaded with dark sarcasm and frustration at injustice, double standards, and elite impunity.
• Urging vigilance and skepticism toward media narratives and legal maneuvers designed to shield perpetrators.

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Conclusion

Capucci’s “Mega Edition” deconstructs the public relations facades and legal wrangling of Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew, exposing systemic injustice, elite self-protection, and the calculated cover-up of egregious abuses. The episode weaves recent reporting, court records, and Capucci’s unfiltered commentary to argue that the tide is finally turning—intensifying scrutiny is making these “untouchables” increasingly vulnerable.

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For further reading, articles discussed and referenced in this episode are linked in the episode description.

Transcript

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[Bobby Capucci]

tonight's article is from the Toronto Sun.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

It was authored by Brad Hunter and

[Bobby Capucci]

the headline Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell should get the Cops Treatment Crime has always been as American as apple pie. So is TV. In 1988, a new kind of show debuted on Fox that took viewers into the urban jungles where gutsy cops squared off against gun wielding, dope dealing savages intent on raping and killing.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

Or so we were told.

[Bobby Capucci]

Now, I've never been a fan of the show Cops, right? It's always been a show that disproportionately targets poor people for petty crimes such as possession, et cetera, et cetera. And I've never really been down with that. As if people's lives aren't hard enough, now you're gonna show up with a camera crew and send these people to prison for possession of drugs? Yeah, I'm not gonna watch a show like that and try and get some enjoyment out of other people's misery.

[Commentator / Analyst]

Pass

[Bobby Capucci]

Cups gave its fans a peek behind the tattered curtain of a world that was terrifyingly real for the people who lived in Watts, Bed Stuy, and hundreds of other American ghettos. Honestly, folks, the way I grew up, I didn't need to watch Cops. Those episodes were happening in the neighborhoods I grew up in. So I've always had a different perspective than a lot of people on crimes such as these and shows such as Cops. I don't like the exploitation of the poor. It really bothers me. I don't, I don't find it as good quality, entertaining tv. And I would never ever, ever watch shows like that considering I've seen an up close and personal. Just how hard it is for these poor people, just how hard it is to maintain on a daily basis, never mind having cops show up, kick in your door, break up your family, bring you to prison over a little bit of crack. Meanwhile some rich dude gets pulled over with a bunch of powdered cocaine and old boy gets right off. I don't like the disparity. And when I talk about a two tiered justice system, folks, I mean it's, I don't just mean in the case of Jeffrey Epstein, I mean in general, the two tier justice system is such a draconian, outdated, disgusting way of doing things. And nobody feels the wrath more than poor people of all shapes, sizes, stripes, colors and creeds. And we see it in the Jeffrey Epstein case. He didn't go after rich girls, right? He didn't go after the members of the golf clubs that he hung out in. Daughters?

[Commentator / Analyst]

No.

[Bobby Capucci]

What did he do? He went and looked for vulnerable girls from poorish backgrounds, lower middle class backgrounds that he could bring into his orbit and then exploit. And we see it with people who have money and power. They do it on a regular basis. They exploit the poor. What do you think? These payday loans, these payday loan shops that are in all these neighborhoods, that's a coincidence? Just more exploitation. And the show Cops was always exploiting people and I was never a fan of it. So when I hear that this show is going by the wayside, I certainly didn't cry any tears when it debuted. The US homicide rate was soaring as crack wars turned inner city corners into abattoirs. Look, unless you lived it, unless you lived through stuff like that and you know what it was like to live in a poor neighborhood and see people losing their lives over things as petty as corners and spots to sell drugs off of. Well, you don't really understand. It's just a movie. To you, it's just a show on Cops. But when you have lived that and you have been around it and you have been exposed to you, it's not just a show on Cops. These are real people with real stories. And the people that are forced to live in these neighborhoods, it's bad news, right? It's a bad situation for all of these people who are forced to live in neighborhoods like this. And then you come in with shows like Cops. And it's just even makes it compounds the problem and makes it even worse. So, yeah, I don't think shows like Cops have anything to offer us at this point in time. Paramount announced on Tuesday they were ending the show's long run, citing the temperament of the times as the reason. The weekly exploitation of small, wasted lives always had the underpinnings of racism. There was never any dramatic busts of white child molesters or Wall street scoundrels. And it's true, right? All we ever saw was poor people getting arrested on the show.

[Commentator / Analyst]

Cops.

[Bobby Capucci]

They never had an epic episode where they kicked in a door of one of these bankers and dragged him out for stealing our wealth and for pillaging our, our future? No. What did we see? A white guy in a wife beater in a trailer park, Five dogs yapping, A kid half dressed and his wife sitting next to him getting hauled off for whatever petty crime they, they got him on. Or you see a black guy getting

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

hemmed up in a place like South

[Bobby Capucci]

Central for basic possession.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

It's such a joke.

[Bobby Capucci]

And shows like that have and always will be a joke, in my opinion. Jeffrey Epstein's alleged pimp co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew would surely nod in approval. Law enforcement has always been wildly efficient in bringing in blacks, minorities and poor whites for questioning on the flimsiest of excuses. Who gets an easier ride from Revenue Canada, A bank executive or you? He's not wrong about this either. How long, how often do I talk about poor people being abused by the system? It is a huge part of the Jeffrey Epstein case. It is a huge part of what occurred because if these girls came from affluent backgrounds, none of this would have happened to them. And it's just a fact, folks. Right?

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

We have to open our eyes and

[Bobby Capucci]

we have to understand that there are some hard truths that we need to swallow if we're ever going to fix what is wrong. And everybody needs to look in the mirror and do a bit of self reflection. Because what we see right now, the, the environment that we see right now is it's not good. It is not good for anyone. Prince Andrew is now doubling down by having pals go to the Daily Mail and claim US prosecutors have made it

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

impossible for him to help them.

[Bobby Capucci]

In fact, the heroic Prince is utterly bewildered. Yep, we know that Prince Andrew is an absolute liar. And we know that people like Prince Andrew especially would never end up on a show like Cops, right? It's only for poor people. Imagine an episode of Cops where they kick in the door to whatever hole in the ground Ghislaine Maxwell is hiding in and drag her out, put her in cuffs and embarrass her on tv. Wouldn't that be nice? And if anyone deserves to be ripped out of a hidey hole, out of a cubby hole, out of a safe house, it's Ghislaine Maxwell. Now, don't get me wrong, folks. I'm not saying that, you know, that the cops shouldn't police, you know, poor areas, poor communities. But what they shouldn't do is use the fact that people are poor as a premise to give them probable cause. And if you don't think it happens, you might want to leave suburbia sometimes, because I've seen it with my own eyes and it's. This isn't a condemnation of all police officers, by the way, but it's a condemnation of a show like the Cops that is exploitive as hell. One of Epstein's survivors, Virginia Roberts, has claimed she was an underage. She had underage sex with the sweaty Prince on three occasions. He has denied wrongdoing, but despite his

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

close ties with serial child molester, Epstein

[Bobby Capucci]

doesn't appear willing to clear the air. Imagine a poor person in the same position having the ability that Andrew does to kill time and to waste time and to not answer questions. If it was you or me or any other poor person, we would have been dragged in already by the SWAT team. But under the two tier justice system, there's a set of rules for them and then a set of rules for the rest of us. Andrew wants to control, wants control of the narrative. And U.S. officials say he has repeatedly declined requests to be interviewed and has unequivocally refused to talk. I think Prince Andrew at this point has very little credibility, said famed lawyer Gloria Allred, who represents some of Epstein's survivors. Well, if anybody knows about having no credibility, it would certainly be Gloria. Gloria Allred. Right, because she has zero credibility as far as I'm concerned. And if I had my druthers, she would be nowhere near this case because what she does, she erodes the credibility of it, in my opinion. And I have a lot of suspicion about what he is, what he is saying through his representatives. Now, the U.S. department of justice is engaging in its own game of chicken by asking the Brits to formally interview Andrew. And get this, the petulant Prince said he's being treated like a second class citizen. Savor that ridiculous statement for a moment. Not only savor it, put it in your pipe and smoke it, because this man acting like he is a second class citizen when his whole entire life he has looked down his nose at the rest of us and furthermore abused disenfranchised women and people. He has the audacity to say he is a second class citizen. I have news for you, Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. Nobody cares what you have to say. Nobody's listening and certainly nobody believes you.

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[Bobby Capucci]

Likewise, his old school, his old school chum Bill Clinton's goomah Ghislaine Maxwell, who has been evading detectives for almost a year. The daughter of disgrace publishing baron Robert the Bouncing Check Maxwell. For nearly 25 years she was closer than this with Epstein. Scores of young women who were sex trafficked have pointed the finger at the brunette, claiming she orchestrated and sometimes participated in the sexual abuse of many. Now Bill Clinton's mistress here is up to her neck in all of this. We all know that, right? So if you're just listening for the first time. Maybe you're just getting involved in the case. Well, Ghislaine Maxwell is target numero uno, in my opinion. With Epstein dead, she is the gem catch for the prosecution. You want to talk about big game hunting, she is it. And Ghislaine Maxwell has been playing the victim for far too long at this point, going so far as to try and sue the estate of Epstein to provide her with monetary. Monetary defense. Neither the prince nor Maxwell have been charged. But since Epstein pegged out in a Manhattan jail cell last year, he has been sent just once and is said to be in high. He has been seen just once and is said to be in hiding with the help of her high crust friends. Yeah, well, we know that. We know that Ghislaine Maxwell is definitely in hiding. She's keeping her head down. Where she is, I have no idea. But I will tell you this. The walls are closing in. And as her associates start to fall off the map one by one, she's going to have to get even more paranoid. Because the more people that are wrapped up, the more people that are facing RICO indictments, well, the more chance she has at getting caught up and the more exposure she faces. Another new Epstein documentary claims the 58 year old had no qualms about procuring girls. For Epstein to quench his incredible sex drive, he has to have three orgasms a day. So I help him out by bringing in the females. Former friend Christina Oxenberg quotes Maxwell in the who Killed Jeffrey Epstein documentary. She felt no compunction about telling me this. If anything, she was proud. And we know she talked about going to pick up nubiles at Central Park. We know all of the accounts of Maria Farmer, so we know that Ghislaine Maxwell was up to this in her neck. And the fact that she is not arrested, the fact that there hasn't been an episode of Cops tracking her down is just absolutely repugnant. If Cops had a farewell episode, it would be nice to see Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell featured. It wouldn't be the first time the show named and shamed people whose only crime was being at the wrong place at the wrong time, utterly humiliated, slammed against a cruiser, jumpy, cameras captured, capturing every grimace, every utterance, each and every glance framed to make the arrested appear sinister and lower than common. That's a pretty good scathing piece by Mr. Brad Hunter of the Toronto Sun. I like the way that he used the show Cops to juxtapose his position. And I really, really, really like the way he thinks. If there was ever a going away episode, it should be focused on Maxwell and Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. Now we know that would never happen, obviously, but it's nice to dream. So what we see here, folks, is more movement and more people being enraged about what they saw on Filthy Rich. Like it or not, Filthy Rich as a platform, I mean, Filthy Rich as a documentary used the platform that Netflix provided it to, to, to. It was a per, it was perfect, right, the way that they used it. Because what it did was it gave more exposure to people who might not have ever known anything about this case besides a little bit that the legacy media reported. So in that facet, when we see articles like this from people like Brad Hunter over at the Toronto sun and

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

some of the other articles that we

[Bobby Capucci]

have seen lately, well, we know one thing is for sure, for sure. We know that interest in this case is ticking up. And time for people like Ghislaine Maxwell, Prince Andrew, Glenn Dubin and everybody else, well, time for them is running out. If you'd like to contact me, you could do [e-mail] that's B O B B Y C A P U c c [e-mail] you can also find me on Twitter at Boby Capuci. All right, everybody, we're going to jump

[Commentator / Analyst]

into this article and it's from the Mercury News and it's about Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell and how they're still in contact with each other. So you would think that Prince Andrew would have learned his lesson, right? When you're a kid and your mom tells you, hey, don't touch that, it's hot, and you decide, hell, I'm going to touch that anyway. Well, before your mom told you, hey, don't touch that, it's hot. You didn't think, well, that's not going to hurt me. And then you touched it and you learned differently. Well, Prince Andrew, everyone told them, hey, that's hot, don't touch it. He didn't care and he kept, he keeps putting his hand on it. So we all know that Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell are definitely still in contact. We know that. All right? And this report is just going to confirm that. So if you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C C I@ProtonMail. Alright, let's hop into the article. MercuryNews.com headline Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell are still chums and still talk reports say the author of the article, Martha Ross. For Prince Andrew, it appears that some old habits die hard. Even if those habits led to his international downfall and ejection from his official role in British royal family. I think it's a little more than that international downfall. How about we just come out and say it? Absolutely and utterly disgraced, okay? Because nobody believes you, Prince Andrew. Nobody believes you. The Duke of York's habit of being friends and staying in contact with Ghislaine Maxwell reportedly continues even though the one time UK socialite is under FBI investigation for her alleged role in Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking operation. Just think about that for a minute, folks. Just chew on that for a minute. Let it, let it roll around your mouth, okay? Prince Andrew is still friends with Ghislaine Maxwell and is still in contact with her on a regular basis. Now put yourself in Prince Andrew's shoes. If you want to be a disgustato real quick. If you want to be animal, that's, that's what you do. You put yourself in Jeffrey Epstein in Prince Andrew's shoes and say to yourself, why would you ever, ever talk to somebody like Elaine Maxwell when everything that has come out about her has come out? Especially when you're supposed to be involved. You would think that you would be running for the hills. You would think that a man like Prince Andrew would just jettison this lady and be like, the hell with you. I want nothing to do with you. I didn't have anything to do with this. I don't care what anybody says. Sure, I took a picture with that girl, but that was just a picture. It doesn't mean anything. Instead, no. What does he do? He dives into these lies and all these wacky stupid ass excuses and then he, he still hangs out with Ghislaine Maxwell. Well, folks, you all know the deal, okay? Everybody knows. They don't believe Prince Andrew in Washington. They do not believe him in Florida. They don't believe him in New York. They do not believe him in either of the Dakotas. They don't believe him in Arizona, they do not believe him in Nevada. We do not believe him in Utah. And they do not believe believe him in Rhode Island. They don't believe him in Massachusetts, they do not believe him in Maine. And they do not believe him in Delaware. They don't believe him in India, they do not believe him in Sri Lanka, they don't believe him in Australia, they do not believe him in Russia. The polar bears in the Arctic north do not believe you. And neither do the penguins in Antarctica. Nobody believes you. Prince Andrew. Laura Goldman, a longtime friend of Maxwell's, revealed to the sun that the socialite pedophile, while in hiding and protected by wealthy connections, continues to text and call her friends. Protected by wealthy connections. Well, what they should have done is just say, hey, all right, well, she had something to do with the 2016 election she was working at with in the Trump administration. She would have been arrested right away. That's the only. Because again, it's the media's fault. They focus on. They're not. If they would focus on Ghislaine Maxwell the way that they focused on, say, Carter Page, who was a minor player, if even a player at all in the whole entire Russia hoax, if they would focus on Ghislaine Maxwell just as much as they focused on Carter Page, don't you think maybe there'd be some movement? Don't you think maybe people would sit up and notice there how many people don't even really understand the depth and the scope of this case because the media has been derelict in their duty? Maxwell, 57, also is confident that she has enough dirt on enough powerful people that she'll be able to evade prosecution and eventually clear her family name and return to her high society life. Goldman said that will never happen. Listen to me clearly, Ghislaine Maxwell, you will never ever be able to have a normal life again. All right? That will never occur. You see the way people chase politicians out of restaurants and etc. Etc. Well, think about what's going to happen to you if you show up somewhere in public and then. Oh, and then think about what's going to happen to whoever it is that decides to host you. You are Persona non grata.

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You're a disease, a virus. You're smallpox, the human version of smallpox. As for Andrew, Maxwell still adores him, Goldman said. After all, Maxwell credits the 59 year old Duke with helping her to return to high society after the controversial 1991 death of her father, publishing magnate Robert Maxwell. Maxwell also reportedly introduced Andrew to Epstein, whom she dated for several years in the 90s. Yeah, she's just a madam though, folks. Just a pimp.

[Bobby Capucci]

That's what they want you to believe.

[Commentator / Analyst]

She's Heidi Fleiss. Meanwhile, she's involved in actually molesting girls and abusing girls. And furthermore, and almost as devious, if not just as devious, she's the one that set up this whole entire blackmail ring. She is the one that was the, the, the key piece in the cog. She's the one that threw this all into motion. However, Goldman said that Maxwell is not about to come out of hiding right now and offer up any information that could clear Andrew's name, which has been tarnished by allegations that he had sex with Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's abused, underaged girls. Goldman said Maxwell adores Prince Andrew. They're still in touch now, but she won't come out of hiding, even for him. She'd only reveal herself if it was in her best interest, which it isn't yet, Goldman continued. So she'll be staying out of the limelight for now and leaving him to fend for himself, despite her huge affection for him and the fact that she could take some of the heat off him recently. Oh God. So again, if this was a RICO case, this Laura Goldman lady, she'd be dragged in kicking and screaming and she would put be put before the question preferably in front of San Dan Glockta like I discussed from the First Law trilogy books. But I guess we're not going to be able to have that happen. So whoever the best torturer the CIA has, why don't they use him on her if she doesn't want to talk? Because if they're going to war, if they're waterboarding people that they just drag off of battlefields, well, they might as well waterboard her as well. Because we need some answers. We need some answers. And anybody who is whole keeping secrets of where Ghislaine Maxwell is or supporting her or giving her money or offering, offering her safe harbor, they're involved. Alright? You're involved now. So if it comes out that you're one of these people, you are squarely on our radar. The sun reported in early December that Andrew had a secret meeting with Maxwell at Buckingham palace in June and has kept in constant contact with her by phone and email even as the scandal escalated. They talk on a regular basis, a source told the Sun. If he wasn't in the spotlight at the moment, he would have found a way to meet up with her. See, there's something funny going on here with Andrew and Ghislaine as well. I think that they might have had a sexual relationship, folks. I can't prove that right now. I don't have any, you know, any evidence to back that up per se, but I believe that they were involved romantically at one point or maybe even were involved romantically while she was paddling around with Epstein. Another report in the sun in mid December said that Maxwell was thinking about coming out of hiding to give an interview and say that Roberts is lying, Epstein having forced her to have sex with the prince three times in 2001. She will do a sit down interview with the big US network and defend the Duke. The source said Maxwell would tell the network that Andrew and Roberts never had intercourse. Andrew has denied that he had any kind of relationship with Roberts. Well, we know he's a liar. But the sun said that there was no proof that such an interview was in the works. And Goldman told the tabloid this week that Maxwell is in no rush to come forward. After Epstein was arrested on new sex trafficking charges in July and then died by a reported suicide, allegedly in a Manhattan jail. On August 10, public scrutiny of Epstein's operation, Maxwell's alleged role in it and Andrew's possible possible complicity intensified. Yeah, you think people were starting to get hip to what was going on? The media did such a good job of burying this story because remember Jeffrey Epstein, Stupid. Who's Jeffrey Epstein? Like ABC said, they did such a good job of burying this story under the rest of their rubbish that nobody

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

really knew what was going on.

[Commentator / Analyst]

Unless you really were locked into this case, what you're going to learn from watching ABC News or NBC News or CBS News or at CNN News or MSNBC News or Fox News, you're not going to learn any of this stuff, folks. Maxwell went into hiding After Epstein's death, Andrew managed to maintain the public support of the Queen and to continue his royal duties for a few months. Then in November, he gave his disastrous interview with the BBC, during which he came off as arrogant, out of touch, dishonest, unsympathetic to Epstein's victims, and oblivious to the implications of being friends with the late financier pedophile. Within days, charities that relied on his royal patronage and corporations that supported his pitch at palace entrepreneurial endeavor sought to distance themselves. Finally, his mother, reportedly with some strong encouragement from Prince Charles, asked Andrew to step down from his official duties. AKA he is grounded. Mummy told him he was grounded. Andrew did so and acknowledged that the Epstein scandal has become a major disruption to his family. Oh yeah, we feel so bad for you and your family that it's been disrupted. Prince Handy Andy, you buffoon. You moron. You die, dumbass. Nobody feels bad for you. We don't care that you let the side down. We don't care that you're wearing the wrong kit.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

We don't care about any of that.

[Commentator / Analyst]

We care that you lied about your real your meetings with Virginia Roberts. So therefore, what else are you lying about, you lying sob? If there's any silver lining for Andrew right now, it is that the FBI currently has no plans to interview him. According to the BBC, citing a Reuters report, the charges brought against Epstein in July alleged he was running a vast network of underage girls, some as young as 14, for sex. Now that Epstein is dead, the FBI wants to talk to people who may have facilitated Epstein's alleged actions. Maxwell fits that category, but Andrew somehow does not, the BBC reported. Still, if the FBI is looking into Maxwell, it seems that it would be sensible for Andrew to keep his distance from her so he won't be drawn into the FBI probe or have his name continually associated with Hearst. Maybe the Duke is inspired by Maxwell's reported confidence that she can beat the charges and even prove to the world that she did nothing wrong. Meanwhile, Goldman told the sun that Maxwell's wealthy connections also are covering what must be her hefty legal expenses. The Duke is inspired, huh? Yeah. He shouldn't be too inspired. Because when the screws get put to Maxwell, when the rubber hits the road and it's time to be a gangster. Well, when it's time to be a gangster, nobody shows up to really be a gangster. Then everybody wants to be one. And then it's time to actually be a gangster. And very few people show up. So can Maxwell withstand the scrutiny? If she truly gets the screws put to her, can she stand the scrutiny? I'd love the volunteer to be the one that gives her the. The briefing. I'd love to be the one. Do you want to do an interview? Ghislaine Maxwell? Come on the show. I'll do an interview with you. You want. You. You probably won't like what I have to say. Like Tony Soprano told Little Jackie, Jackie Jr. In the Sopranos, I'm gonna say a few things, and you're probably not gonna like what I have to say, and I'm gonna say a few bad words. That's basically what I'd be telling her. She can stay out of the public eye as long as she wants. Goldman said. She doesn't think that she did anything wrong. Goldman also told the sun that Maxwell was somewhat relieved by Epstein's death. It may have placed her more in the spotlight, but at least he couldn't turn on her, Goldman said. Turn on her. Well, that's a nice little tidbit there, folks. Does that play into what I said, that Ghislaine Maxwell was truly the real brains behind this operation? Was Ghislaine Maxwell the one who really put all of this into motion? Why is Ghislaine Maxwell still in hiding? Why is Ghislaine Maxwell not sitting down with the FBI yet? Folks, who is protecting Ghislaine Maxwell and why? Like Virginia Roberts says, this is the year that the 1% better be on the lookout because this is the year that the predators turn into the prey. We're here, folks. It's 2020 right now. We're kicking down the door and we're like letting these. We're letting these people know that the party is over. It's like Chris Hansen from now on for them. Every time they turn the corner, it's going to be like Chris Hansen is waiting for them. All right, folks, if you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] and

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

remember, today Our article is from the Tatler. Headline, Prince Andrew asked Elaine Maxwell for information about Virginia Roberts. Newly released documents revealed that the Duke of York emailed Maxwell and said he wanted to ask some specific questions about his accuser. The author of this article is Hope Coke, and we talked about this a little bit. The Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew email is a. It's a big tell. It's a huge, a huge key in their relationship.

[Commentator / Analyst]

Right?

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

It establishes that they still had contact. It establishes that he did in fact know Virginia Roberts when he says he didn't. And it also establishes the fact that he was concerned enough to ask some questions behind the scenes of Ghislaine Maxwell about Virginia Roberts. So the whole narrative that he doesn't know her, the whole narrative that Ghislaine has tried to pitch, it's just absolute bs. And it seems like every time more information comes out, another hole is blown in the official narrative.

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[Article Narrator / Commentator]

Having just been made public ahead of Ghislaine Maxwell's trial next year, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family has also come under scrutiny once again. With the documents revealing that he asked Maxwell for information about his accuser, Virginia Roberts. We, you know, it's. Again, it's a very important fact, that little tidbit.

[Bobby Capucci]

It's one of those.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

One of those pieces of evidence that ties them together. One of those bits of evidence that has the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family inquiring about a girl that was being trafficked by Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. Now, remember, this moron says he doesn't know her. Ghislaine Maxwell said he doesn't know her, but yet he's sending an email asking about her. Doesn't make sense to me. Roberts has alleged that she was groomed by Maxwell and kept as a teenage sex slave for Epstein, during which time she was made to have sex with Prince Andrew on three occasions. Both Maxwell and the Duke of York have denied the allegations, with the Royal maintaining that he has no recollection of ever having met Roberts again. If you have never met Virginia Roberts, then how in the hell did that picture get snapped? Was it just a fake? I mean, we have. It's such a good Photoshop that it fit. It fooled everybody, professional photographers. It fooled the FBI, forensic teams. It just fooled everybody, huh? No, that's the narrative you want people to believe. And you'll keep hammering it home, hoping that people pick up on it. But the problem is you don't have any surrogates left in the legacy media, not because they care, but because they know they have to run for the hills. You're not gonna get any. Your favorable coverage anymore. But before all of this happened, how many times have did we see favorable coverage? How many times did we see the legacy media. Avoid the topic altogether. I'm looking at you, Amy Robach and

[Bobby Capucci]

ABC

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

Maxwell is currently being held in prison in the US Awaiting trial on charges relating to her links with the late American financier and convicted pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell has been accused of grooming girls as young as 14 to be abused by Epstein between 1994 and 1997, and of committing perjury by denying knowledge of his abuse in the 2016 deposition. She denies all charges. So if you've read the deposition now, I'm sure most of you have at least breezed through it a little bit. I have completed the whole thing finally. I mean, it looks like she perjures herself like 30 times, never mind two times. They probably. All kidding aside, no nonsensical hyperbole here, they probably could have gotten her on five or six counts of perjury if that's the route that they went, because it's obvious she was lying. When we have hindsight as a benefit to guide us when we're Monday morning quarterbacking this. Well, it's a lot easier to see how it all unfolded, to see the lies, the schemes and the plots. The claims came to light yesterday in a New York federal court after an ongoing battle from Maxwell's lawyers to prevent their release. Following the orders of District Judge Loretta Presca. The court documents reveal that Prince Andrew emailed the British former socialite, co conspirator, fellow child abuser, General All Around Scuzzbag and Bipedal Serpent to seek information about Roberts, who was making underage sex claims against him. Roberts has alleged that she was first made to have sex with the prince when she was 17, below the age of consent in some US states. Look, really, honestly, all kidding aside, I don't care. Even if she was of age, she was being trafficked. That's the biggest problem here. Obviously, if you're trafficking children, that is the lowest of the low. But let's not forget, anyone being trafficked is heinous. It is absolutely unacceptable for there to be any form of modern day slavery. I know it's more rampant. Modern day slavery is more rampant than slavery has ever been in the history of man. But we can either accept it or we can stand up and say, enough is enough. And I think people are starting to stand up and say enough is enough. This isn't just an issue for, you know, people who have went through it. This is a society, an issue for all of society. This is an issue that affects all of us. How can we have any confidence in the people who are our so called rulers if they're letting this go on, if they're being involved with people like Jeffrey Epstein? And when you look at the allegations laid by Virginia Roberts against Prince Andrew, even if you take, say, say she was 25 and making these allegations, it would still be as heinous if she was trafficked against her will. And people like Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and people like Prince Andrew, they don't even look at people like Virginia as human. She's just chattel to them, she's just a commodity to be sold and traded as if she was there on Wall Street. And that's how they look at all of us. We're just plebs to them, peasants, not even worthwhile. The newly released transcript was of a 2016 court deposition made by Maxwell during a defamation suit brought against her by Roberts. It was subsequently settled out of court in 2017. The Times reports that the transcript reveals that Maxwell emailed the Duke of York in 2015 the day after she sent out a press release denying that she helped Epstein to traffic and abuse Roberts. So right away she started with the damage control, letting her boy, Prince Andrew know the score. Hey look, Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, we have something coming down the pipe. It's not going to be good. Your name's going to be Dragged into it. You better get ready. Maxwell wrote in the email to Andrew. Andrew, have some info. Call me when you have a moment. To which the Royal replied, let me know when we can talk. Got some specific questions to ask you about Virginia Roberts. Sure. Doesn't seem to be a guy that doesn't know her.

[Commentator / Analyst]

Huh?

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

Very specific questions about somebody you don't know. Well, that's odd. How can you have such specific questions about somebody you don't know?

[Bobby Capucci]

They would have us believe that he

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

never met her, that they have never been face to face, they have never associated. But we know that that's absolute bullshit. We know it's a lie. Not only do we have the picture, we have corroborating witnesses who have come forward stating that Prince Andrew, AKA the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, was with Virginia Roberts on that island and elsewhere. When asked about what she and Andrew had discussed, Maxwell said, just what a liar she is, adding that the Duke had also said what a liar she is.

[Bobby Capucci]

Maybe Virginia should sue the Duke of

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

York for defamation as well. That would be something, huh? Suing that scumbag. Roberts alleges she was flown to London by Epstein to meet Joe Exotic of the Windsor family at tramp nightclub in 2001 before returning to the Bipedal Serpent's London home where she was made to have sex with the Royal. I mean, what. What about that sounds out of left field considering everything that we know about Jeffrey Epstein. What about that seems off? Nothing. It's exactly how they conducted themselves. How many different girls have come forward with those same sorts of stories? Maybe not with Andrew, but with other people that they were trafficked to via Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell stated in the 2016 deposition that Joe Exotica of the Windsor family had visited her Mayfair home, but denied the sex allegation. She told lawyers. What I'm representing is that her entire ludicrous and absurd story of what took place in my house is an obvious lie, adding, she claimed things took place in my bathroom in London. Her characterization is just not possible. Um, what? How is it not possible? So do you have some kind of special tub where two people couldn't get in it? I don't care if the tub is small. What does that have to do with anything? Not like people are stretching out in the tub when they're having relations. Right, so I don't understand what she means, that it's impossible for that to happen. Such bs. It's just not possible. Yeah, right. You know it, we know it, Prince Andrew knows it, and the whole entire world knows it. She stated that she did not remember if Roberts had stayed at her home, whether the then teenager had joined Maxwell Epstein and the Joe exotic of the Windsor family for dinner or if she herself had taken her shopping for an outfit to wear to meet the Prince. Imagine that disgusting shit. This gross bipedal serpent has this young girl out shopping for an outfit that the Joe exotic of the Windsor family, AKA the Duke of Pork, would like. These are sick people, folks. These are the sickest amongst the sick and to them it's normalized behavior. They don't think there's anything wrong with it. Maxwell said, I do not have any recollection of it and I doubt it actually happened. Her tissue of lies is extremely hard to pick apart what is true and what isn't. Actually, I wouldn't recollect her at all but for her tissue stories about this situation. Oh, it's such lies. What about all of the pictures that she's provided at Zorro Ranch, at the island elsewhere? You were there the whole time? G Max, you bipedaled forked tongued serpent woman. So who do you think you're BSing? You're not BSing us. We're not buying it. So who do you think you're trying to win to your side? I mean, besides the Allen I kept my underpants on Dershowitz's of the world. Who in the hell do you think you're going to convince with your bs? She also expressed skepticism about a photograph of Andrew with his arm around Virginia's waist while Maxwell is visible in the background, which was allegedly taken at Maxwell's home after the group returned from Tramp. So even when there is photographic evidence, folks, even when there is evidence right there for you to look at, tangible evidence for you to stare at and say holy shit, these people will lie to you. These people think that they're so much better than you, that they're so much above you, that even when the evidence is there before you that you'll believe their lies instead of your own eyes. And for so long that was the case. And with the collaboration they had from their lapdogs in the media, everything was all rosy for them. Well, now the veil of secrecy has been pulled off and we know what you were up to. We know the scumbaggery you were involved in and you will not be able to gaslight us anymore.

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[Article Narrator / Commentator]

The Duke has claimed that he was with his daughter Princess Beatrice at a Pizza Express in Woking on the evening the alleged incident took place. Maxwell said we can't really establish the photograph. I don't know if that's a real picture or not. She said that the home in the photo looked familiar, but added she then characterized things took place in my bathroom in the bathtub itself. The tub is too small for any type of activity whatsoever. Okay, sure. It is such an absolute lie. She stated that she did not remember whether Andrew went into a room alone with Roberts and when asked if Andrew had ever told her that he had sex with the teenager, said that he did not. Oh, yeah, so of course. I mean, Ghislaine said it, so it's obviously the truth. We know that she is one of the most truthful people on the planet, that she has never lied or perjured herself or been involved in any sort of sex trafficking enterprise. So let's just listen to what she has to say. I mean, come on, their whole entire narrative is just straight trash. And the fact that it was believed for so long is. Is just mind boggling to me. Absolutely mind boggling. Maxwell accepted that the Royal had been a guest at Epstein's U.S. virgin Islands holiday home, Little St. James, saying that she had once been there when he visited. Oh, just one time, huh? That's all. That's it. Just one time when he visited. And you don't know if she went into a room alone with Prince Andrew? Come on, give me a break. You know, because you set it in motion. You know, because you set it up. You know, because you took her out for a little outfit to wear. Don't you remember G Max? She added, however, that she did not know if Roberts had been present, stating, I have never at any time, at any place, in any moment, ever asked Virginia Roberts, or whatever she is called now, to have sex with anybody. You know, see how she disgusting she is, or whatever she is called now. She is just a vile human being. This is the sort of woman that never deserves to see the light of day again. She doesn't have any remorse, she has no compassion, and she certainly, most definitely is not safe to be in our society. Roberts has also alleged that Maxwell and Epstein gifted the Prince with a puppet of himself like that used in the the satrical TV show Spitting Image, which was used to grope Roberts and other women. Maxwell denied buying a puppet of the Royal, but stated that there was a caricature of him in Jeffrey's home. She also said, I have never seen anybody have sexual intercourse with Jeffrey ever. I never saw any inappropriate underage activities with Jeffrey ever. So again, she's lying. We have witnesses, we have survivors themselves who say differently that Ghislaine Maxwell was not only recruiting and grooming, she was also involved in the abuse. And we have also heard about this puppet numerous times, and not just from Virginia. She also said, I have never seen anybody have sexual intercourse with Jeffrey ever. I never saw any inappropriate underage activities with Jeffrey ever. I never participated in anything with Virginia and Jeffrey. And for the record, she is an absolute, total liar. So if she's such a liar, why did you settle with her out of court, Ghislaine? Why didn't you let it go to court? Why didn't you let the courts decide what was what? You settled out of court, didn't you? Because you didn't want to go to discovery. You knew you would be put on blast. When Robert's lawyer cited police documents suggesting that as many as 30 minors had been brought into Epstein's properties, Maxwell replied, I did not count the number of girls and I did not read the police report. Well, the good thing is you have plenty of time to go back and read those police reports now while you're sitting in your jail cell enjoying your nice little outfit, your disgusting bologna sandwich, your little boxed juice. Yeah, plenty of time for you to read through them now, Ghislaine. The Times reports that all references to Prince Andrew by name were redacted from the published testimony. The U.S. court of Appeals for the Second Circuit backed Judge Loretta Presca and ordered the release of the transcript. It was ruled that the names of third parties would be omitted. Where the Royal was mentioned has been deduced. However, by referring to the document's alphabetical index. The Duke, who has not been charged with any crimes, reportedly declined to comment. Well, that's a shock. He'd have to leave his hole to comment. He'd have to get his handlers on board for that. And the legal team around him is not letting him talk to anybody. Elsewhere in the deposition, Maxwell was questioned about her personal relationship with Epstein, who died in prison in August 2019 while awaiting trial on further sex trafficking charges. When asked if she had been his girlfriend, she stated, that's a tricky question. There were times when I would have liked to think of myself as his girlfriend, probably in the early 90s. A tricky question. Of course it is, because you were never his girlfriend. You were associates, you were business partners, and all of that other was just a front. I am convinced of that at this point. Maxwell was employed by Epstein to help him run his properties, for which she stated that she had been paid between 100,000 and $200,000. She added that he had helped her buy a townhouse, thought to be a property in New York's Upper east side, that she reportedly sold for $15 million. When asked why she had continued to stand by Epstein after he was imprisoned in 2008 for soliciting prostitution for a minor, Maxwell stated, I'm a very loyal person and Jeffrey was very good to me when my father passed away. And I believe that you need to be a good friend in people's hour of need.

[Commentator / Analyst]

Wow.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

Okay, so your friend is a serial child molester, a rapist, a sex trafficker and money launderer, God only knows what else, and you're gonna stand by him. That's the honorable thing to do because it's his hour of so called need. No, you're standing by him because your fates were intertwined. Your fates were one in the same. And it was only a matter of time, Ghislaine Maxwell, that the authorities would catch up to you too. The Times adds that Maxwell became emotionally volatile during a seven hour interview with one of Robert's lawyers, Sigrid McCauley, about her alleged involvement in Epstein's crimes. She reportedly shouted insults, struck the table, and called the claims a giant, fat, enormous, repulsive, disgusting, inappropriate, vile lie. McCauley replied, I am going to put on the record that Ms. Maxwell was very inappropriately and very harshly pounded our law firm table. I ask she take a deep breath and calm down. That's some solid advice from Sigrid McCauley, huh? Some unsolicited, uncharged advice. Probably not the best thing to do in a deposition. What do you think is you get mad like that, that proves that you're innocent or something. Come on, Ghislaine. Striking the table, acting the fool. Now, in hindsight, when we all look back on it, it's just, it's par for the course considering what we've heard about your personality, about the way you conduct yourself and how, how you treat people. Maxwell also refuted Roberts claim that she was 15 when the first. When the two first met, when the teenager was working as a masseuse at Donald Trump's Mar a Lago resort in Florida in the 90s. Maxwell said that Roberts was 17 again, hitting the table and stating that is fake. A lie that was perpetrated between all of you to make the story more exciting, obviously. Manifestly, absolutely, totally a lie. I mean, what. It's not a lie, it's a fact. How many young 15 year old girls did you procure for Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine? How many 15 year old girls did you help normalize the experience for Ghislaine? So you can have all of the histrionics you want, you can pound all the tables you want, but it does not change the fact that you are as guilty as the day is long, in my opinion. The release of Ghislaine Maxwell's 2016 civil deposition comes following an ongoing legal battle fronted by the Miami Herald. The 418 page transcript was ordered to be unsealed after two courts ruled in spite of Maxwell's arguments against its release. David Boies, a lawyer for a number of Epstein's alleged survivors, stated, this is only a small part. As the evidence comes out, it will be clear why Ms. Maxwell and others who enable Jeffrey Epstein are fighting so hard to keep it concealed. As our client, Virginia Roberts asserts, they

[Bobby Capucci]

did not act alone.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

And that's really what it comes down to. The whole entire gist of it, the whole entire situation. And that's really what it comes down to. They did not act alone. They couldn't have.

[Bobby Capucci]

They had help.

[Article Narrator / Commentator]

They had friends in big time spots with big time finances to help them. They had friends in the political world to shield them. And they had friends, obviously, in the prosecutor's offices. But now that well of friendship has run dry, Ghislaine Maxwell has been left twisting in the wind. And the rest of the operatives who worked with them, the core four, Jean Luc Brunel and others, well, you folks are directly in the crosshairs. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that at bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] you can also find me on Twitter O B B Y Capucci. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box.

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