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Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell And The Juror She Says Shouldn't Have Been Empaneled (7/10/26)
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Ghislaine Maxwell’s legal team tried to use juror Scotty David as the crowbar to pry open her conviction, arguing that he should never have been seated on the jury because he failed to disclose his own history of sexual abuse during jury selection....
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What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Overnight, we heard from one of the jurors in the Ghislaine Maxwell trial named Scotty David, and he came out and gave an interview to the Independent, and we're gonna dive into that interview in a second. But before we do that, there were a few interesting developments that came out of this interview. And obviously the most interesting of them is, is the fact that Scotty said that he was also sexually abused when he was younger. Now, the issue that could possibly arise here is if Scotty wasn't honest during the questionnaire to become a juror, and if he wasn't honest about that and then he's coming out and saying now that he was abused, then there might be grounds here, folks, as horrible as it is to say, for, for Maxwell and her team to file for a mistrial. Now, again, I am not a legalese hound, right? I don't dive into all of the nuance of these legal cases. I am not equipped for that. You know, I went to. I took Criminal Law 101 in college and hated every second of it. So I'm certainly not the guy to really dive into the legalese of the matter. But if he wasn't honest when he was asked during the jury selection period, then this could prove to be a bit of a hurdle. Now, obviously, we'll have to get some more information, right? Can't jump to any conclusions one way or the other. We'll have to see what comes of it and see what, you know, was asked, what questions he answered. If he, you know, didn't answer any questions, and if he was not truthful during the juror selection period, it could really prove to be a big time monkey wrench and we could be looking at doing this all over again, perhaps. So I really hope that it's just a bit of, I don't know, excitement, should we say, on the side of the media or thinking that they might have found something here or whatever it may be. But we'll have to wait and see. As far as the details, right, the, the details that matter have to hear from the judge. We'll have to hear from the prosecution, obviously, we'll have to hear from the knucklehead legal team for Ghislaine Maxwell, and we'll have to figure it all out. But I would think, and again, this is just my guess here, folks. I wasn't in that room. I. I don't know what questions were asked. I don't know what questions were answered. As far as Jury selection goes. But what I will say is this. My guess is that he disclosed all of this stuff, you know, previously, when was when he was asked on the questionnaire. But if he didn't and they find out that he didn't, this could really spin things out of control. So we're gonna have to see what comes of this right after this interview, because there's still a lot that is not, you know, filled in here, a lot of blanks that still aren't filled in. So what we're gonna do this morning is we're gonna dive into this interview over at the Independent and see what he said, Right? And then later on or maybe tomorrow, we'll see where I'm at today. I have another article I want to share with you folks about Ghislaine Maxwell's accommodations as far as her place where she's going to serve her prison sentence. I think it's a very interesting article, and it touches on a lot of different topics as far as where she might end up, you know, medium security, low security, whatever it may be. But the article goes into it and details it a little bit. So in the next day, either later tonight or tomorrow, I'm definitely going to add that to the catalog as well. But before we get there, let's see what this juror, Scotty David, has to say about the jury's decision to find Ghislaine Maxwell guilty on five of the six charges. Headline, Ghislaine Maxwell Juror Breaks Silence to the Independent. This verdict is for all the victims, for those who testified, for those who. Who came forward, and for those who haven't come forward. I'm glad that Maxwell has been held accountable. A juror and Maxwell sex Trafficking trial tells Lucia Osborne Crowley. And props to Lucia for scoring the first interview here. This is what journalism should be, right? You go out, get yourself the interview with a subject that matters to the people, a topic that matters to the people, as opposed to just sitting around and using your power as a journalist, as a political cudgel. This is what you're supposed to do. This is what the people want. People crave some hard news out there, right? People are done with the bs. People don't really care what Sean Hannity thinks anymore or Rachel Maddow. Just look at her numbers. We want real hard news from real journalists. Is that too much to ask? A juror in the Ghislaine Maxwell sex trafficking trial has told the Independent that he voted to find Maxwell guilty of the of the majority of the charges against her because he believed the stories told by the survivors and because he believed the pattern of abuse they all described. And look, I don't know how you couldn't believe the pattern of abuse that was described. And remember, let's just, let's just keep it all in perspective here, the small scope of all of this. Imagine if these jurors would have really seen the actual face of the beast. Imagine if the curtain would have been fully pulled back and they would have had a real glimpse of the monsters who populated the room. They think this was bad, huh? They think that there was a pattern of abuse here, huh? Boy, oh boy. Scotty David, who, who wishes to be identified by his first and middle name, told the Independent in his first media interview that he believed all of the survivors who testified against Ghislaine Maxwell in her sex trafficking trial that took place in lower Manhattan over the past four weeks. All of the accusers corroborated each other and were backed up by other evidence, he said. And that's a fact too. When you have that many girls or boys or anybody for that matter coming forward with the same story, they don't know each other, they from different parts of the country. You have to take that seriously, folks. Look, I'm not the kind of person that just fires off from the hip and is like, alright, well, there's an accusation, you must be guilty of it. I believe in innocent until proven guilty to my core. But when you duck and dodge and avoid questioning, you avoid speaking to the authorities, you avoid providing help, what am I supposed to think? What's the rest of the world supposed to think? And Ghislaine Maxwell had ample opportunity to come forward to stop this. If she was this big victim that they try and make her out to be, she didn't do it. Alright, so all of this evidence against Epstein and her was compiled over years, folks. This wasn't a one off. This wasn't. This wasn't some situation where Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell misread the vibe and went in for a kiss and the girl turned her head away. That's not what this was no gray area here. These girls were brought there with a specific purpose for Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell to abuse them. That's exactly what happened. And it was brought to light in the trial. David said he is proud to be part of holding Maxwell accountable for her crimes. This verdict is for all victims, David told the Independent. For those who testified, for those who came forward, and for those who haven't come forward, I'm glad That Maxwell has been held accountable. You are not the only one, David. Let's just hope that you were honest, my friend, during the questionnaire period and the follow up questions. Let's. Let's just hope that you were honest, pal. Because what have I been telling you folks from the very beginning, A game of loopholes and technicalities. That's what Maxwell plays, that's what her legal team plays and that's what she's paying all this money for, that sort of thing. Not for what happened in the courtroom. You see what happens in the courtroom even with high profile attorneys, if you are not telling the truth, if the evidence is a mile high stacked against you, you are cooked. And all you can hope for is some sort of misconduct by the jury, some sort of technicality. That is your only hope. And that is certainly the case with Maxwell. So I really hope that this gentleman didn't give her that in this verdict shows that you can be found guilty no matter your status. And look, that's a big deal too, right? Just shot across the bow. These people have gotten away with their actions with impunity for way too long. And I've said it a million times here, I'm sure you're tired of hearing it. We all expect these people to be thieves. We all expect them to steal from us, not to pay their fair share of taxes, not to, you know, to do all of the things that the elite class has been doing ever since society was created. We've accepted that. We've looked the other way, look, literally for centuries. But when you start abusing the most vulnerable amongst us, actually physically abusing, abusing them and doing it in a brazen manner where everybody knows what's going on and law enforcement turns the other cheek. Well, now you're gonna have a problem. At least with me I can look by the robber baron bullshit, because guess what? That's how it works. Everybody's getting a taste. But I will not, I repeat, will not look the other way if you're running a human trafficking ring targeting children. And the most vulnerable amongst us, AKA people that I relate to, my people, my tribe, and frankly most of yours too, unless you're sitting on generational wealth, folks, you are not part of the team. These people don't care about you. Show up there with a few million dollars, big deal. You ain't shit to them. This is a generational wealth club. And the rest of us, well, like I always say, just pieces on the chessboard. David told the Independent that he found all of the accusers who testified to be believable and credible. Despite the defense's many attacks on their credibility and their attempts to poke holes in their memory, they were all believable. Nothing they said felt to me like a lie, he said. And I agree with that. I don't think that any of them were lying up there. Did they have some misremembered memories? Sure. I'm almost positive they did. Do you remember everything that occurred in, you know, 1994? I certainly don't. I mean, it's my freshman year of high school. I remember some things, but not everything. Now, obviously, I've never had anything traumatic like this happen to me, certainly not as far as being abused by somebody. So I can't even put myself in the position of recurring memories from, from a perspective of trauma, because I didn't have any kind of trauma like that. So I understand that you forget things and small details might get missed, but it's the core story that never changed. And for me, that was the, the, the thing that sealed the deal, right? When you're telling these stories and you're telling your, you know, the story of you, basically every now and then, some details might be missed, but the core of the story is what it is. David knows that sometimes you can misremember small details of traumatic memories without ever doubting the core of the memory. He knows that because he himself is a survivor of sexual abuse. I know what happened when I was sexually abused. I remember the color of the carpet, the walls. Some of it can be replayed like a video. He said he explained this to the jury. So this is where it gets a bit shaky, right? Look, I'm just trying to shoot you folks straight, right? I'm not going to put any garnish on this and dress it up. If this dude wasn't honest with the judge and with the. The lawyers, this is going to be a big problem. 100% going to turn into a big problem if dude wasn't honest. Now, I'm not going to speculate if he was honest or if he wasn't honest. I don't know. But if he wasn't. Get ready to buckle up, folks, because we're gonna have to basically start right where we started in the beginning and go all the way over again. And it's gonna be another long, long road. Now, obviously, I'll be here for it one way or the other, no matter what happens, but I would much prefer to move forward and go after these co conspirators and not cover ground. We've already trekked so he knew that some misremembered details doesn't mean the memory itself didn't happen. There were also questions from the jury about why the girls didn't come forward earlier. But David said he knows what that's like, too. I didn't disclose my abuse until I was in high school, he said. And you see this. This is a reoccurring thing. And I talked to my little sister about this a little bit. And like I've said on the show many times, she worked with abused women, battered women, women who came from abusive relationships, and she worked to provide them a safe place at a company. And I asked her about that kind of thing, and she was telling me the same. The same thing, how a lot of these women who are abused never talk about the abuse to anyone. And when they do come forward, a lot of times it's years and years later. And I didn't know any of this stuff. Right. I was so ignorant to all of this until I started digging into this case. I had zero idea the pervasive problem of human trafficking or domestic violence or any of this stuff. When you see the numbers that one in three women are going to be abused in their life at some point, that means one in three dudes are abusers. I've said this previously. We got to be better as men. And. And dudes out there that consider themselves alpha male, doubly for you can't be out here laughing it up, yucking it up. Somebody's being sexually assaulted. A real man steps up to the plate and stops that shit. A real man does something about it, doesn't laugh about it, doesn't make jokes about it. We aren't past that in our society. It's obviously a big problem. Women are being abused left and right, and society just looks the other way. And I was part of that problem for a long time. I didn't know. And again, that another shot at the legacy media, while they're busy getting me all pumped up on rage porn, telling me how evil the Iraqis are, they should have been informing me about these kinds of monsters, real monsters that actually had an effect on my life. But they didn't. So I had no idea. And once I dove into this and I started to understand the true scope, I was absolutely blown away by how pervasive this problem is. The jury room went dead silent when he shared his story. He told the Independent. David believes this helped the jury understand that it's possible that these women were telling the truth. You might forget some things, he said, but the Core of a traumatic memory stays with you. And again, this is where it could get dicey. If he did not disclose all of this previously during jury selection. It's going to be a long road, folks. And again, I won't speculate, I don't know one way or the other, but I really hope that he was upfront and honest. There were also questions about why the girls kept going back to Epstein and Maxwell and the and why they accepted their help. See, people who ask those questions, and I'm not trying to, you know, just brand people with a broad brush, but the people who ask those kinds of questions most times come from a more affluent background. More come from, you know, they grew up in the suburbs or they grew up with, you know, daddy going to work every day and mommy staying home and, you know, a nice life. And they don't understand the struggle of being poor, how $200 or $300 can change your whole entire perspective. For a lot of these people in the suburbs, two or three hundred bucks is nothing. It's a handbag or a pair of Ray Bans. When you're poor and somebody offers you two or three hundred dollars to give them a massage, that's life changing. It's a life changing event. I'm guessing that their parents whole paycheck was $300. Okay, so when you talk about why do they come back? Why did they keep going? You gotta understand the whole entire situation here and look at the big picture and try and put yourself in the shoes of other people. And if you've never been poor before, you don't understand any of this. You're like, what do you mean? $300 is a big deal? Yeah, right. Well, I have news for you. $300 is a huge deal. And when I was growing up, $300 could have made or break and made it or break it many, many times as my, you know, my parents had me real young, and for the early portion of my life, when my dad was finding his way in his career, 300 bucks would have meant everything to us. So when people ask why they keep coming back, why? That's why if you have nothing and then somebody dangles a little something in front of you, it's kind of hard not to be enticed to go and try and get a little of that. We are not here to judge these victims. David told the Independent. We are here to judge whether we believe their stories, but we are not here to judge the decisions they made or didn't make. We cannot judge what they did or didn't do. Afterward, he said, it doesn't change what happened. It doesn't. Right. And I would interject here that a lot of these girls problems stemmed from the abuse suffered at the hands of Maxwell and. And Epstein and their friends. So when you try and destroy their character, just keep that in mind that a lot of this happened because of the trauma that they suffered at the hands of these scummy sons of bitches. David felt that the defense were continually attacking the accusers on the stand. And he said these attempts did little to change his mind. At one point, the accuser, testifying under the name Carolyn, threw her binder of evidence down because. Down beside her because she was so distressed by the questioning she was being subjected to. And I get that. Right. I understand that that's rough, and my heart definitely goes out to Carolyn. But that's what these lawyers are going to do, and you know that. So it's up to the prosecution to prepare these witnesses for the barrage that's coming. And I get it. There's no prep work that can get you truly prepared for sitting on the stand and getting peppered with questions. Everdell Menninger, Bobby Sternum, there's really nothing that prepares you for that. These are highly educated people who are good at their craft. They're gonna find ways to trip you up. And remember, there's no such thing as a perfect witness. It just made me feel more compassion for her, David said. The juror said that ultimately the jury found that all of the victims were credible. The defense team focused strongly on its memory expert, Professor Elizabeth Loftus. Loftus testified about experiments that had been conducted in which researchers had successfully implanted a false memory into the mind of research subjects. I mean, talk about Yahoo quackery. You might as well be on the plains in the 1860s and find yourself a snake oil salesman. I don't buy any of this stuff. Honestly. I just don't buy it. I've said that from the beginning, and I still stand by it. After listening to her give her testimony in court, she just doesn't do it for me. And if it was my life on the line, and this was the strategy that my legal team came to me with, they'd be going back to the drawing board. Believe it. In one study, the researchers were able to change a detail of a memory about witnessing a car accident. They were able to convince participants that the scene featured a stop sign rather than a yield sign. But that didn't sway the jury either. David said, and. And it shouldn't. So. Because of that one instance, it should affect what goes on in this juror's room. Ridiculous. None of that relates to traumatic memory, he said. Loftus said herself that she had never conducted a study on whether these tactics would work with the memories of sexual abuse. David recalled. It's like bringing in an expert on Lamborghinis to work on a Ford. Sure it's an engine, sure it's a motor, sure it has some of the same parts, but it's not the same thing. So just because she's a memory expert doesn't mean she's worked with traumatic memory. Since the trial, there has been speculation that the fact a juror had been a victim of sexual abuse could be used by Maxwell as grounds for appeal. Speaking separately to MailOnline, David said he could not remember the details of the 50 question pretrial questionnaire. And each potential juror was asked about whether they were a victim of sexual abuse or a relative or a friend of a victim. But he felt he had answered all questions honestly. So according to him, he thinks he answered the questions honestly. We will have to see again. Nobody knows. Anybody saying that they know is lying. Right now we can guess, but the only people who really know are the judge and the lawyers, I would guess. And here's the thing. If this is an issue, you better believe that Maxwell's people are gonna make an issue of it. So let's wait and see what they have to say. David told the Independent that the accuser's testimony was corroborated by a significant amount of evidence. He specifically mentioned Kate, an accuser who testified but was not allowed to be considered for the actual charges because she was over the age of consent in the uk but when she was abused and said her testimony powerfully corroborated the other accusers stories, she was able to show us that this was a pattern. David said, we knew we couldn't use her testimony to convict Maxwell, but she showed the pattern of how those girls were groomed. She showed us the pattern that happened to all these girls. And it's true. Right as it was happening. I told you about the foundational building blocks that were being put down by the prosecution. And then the house would be built atop of those. And that's what they did. Maybe not perfectly, but they got the job done right. The roof doesn't leak, the floods aren't coming in through the front door. So they did an adequate enough job of doing that. It was about confusing their boundaries, he said. For Jane, it started with seeing Maxwell topless. For Annie Farmer. It started with Maxwell showing her how to give Epstein a foot massage. The pattern is that Ghislaine talks to you like she is also a teenager. Then it moves into a massage. She tries to make you comfortable to see what they can get away with. What she did was wrong and it's 100% a fact. What she did was beyond wrong. It was draconian. Some of the most disgusting shit you can ever engage in. Abusing children. What is wrong with you? I have no empathy for it, folks. Zero empathy for it. And again, remember, we're not talking gray area. 19 year old with a 16 year old. None of that. Right? We wouldn't even be bothering touching a subject like that. There is no gray area here. There is no. Oh well, I didn't nose or you know, the using youth as an excuse. These were very educated, powerful people who knew exactly what they were doing. Annie Farmer's story was backed up by her teenage diary as well as her high school boyfriend. That was important to the jury. He said Carolyn's story was backed up by Sean, her ex boyfriend, who testified that he used to drive her to Epstein's Palm beach mansion. That's called providing receipts, folks. Prince Andrew, take note. I know you got a lot of nonsense pouring out of your stupid mouth, but you don't have any receipts to back any of it up. So this is called providing receipts, okay? Jane's story was backed up by her high school boyfriend who remembered being told about Epstein when they were younger. The accusers stories were backed up by the flight logs which placed Jane on at least one flight with Maxwell. David said their stories were backed up by Maxwell's little black book, an address book found in Epstein's home and that listed the names of masseuses including Jane and Carolyn. You know, big time masseuses, right? Little 14 and 15 year old girls might as well mark down astrophysicists next to their name as well. It is all absurd. Rich people don't need to find 14 or 15 or 16 year old girls from the hood. They go and call themselves a massage therapist. A professional who comes over and gets deep into the actual area that's affected and works out the kinks. That's not what you were looking for. You weren't looking to work out the kinks. You were looking to engage in some kink. So let's just call it what it is. David said the little black book also gave the jurors clues about how Maxwell and Epstein had evaded accountability in the past. There were names of several Palm beach police officers listed on the first name basis in that book. David said those girls names and phone numbers were listed next to the words mom and dad. He said professional masseuses don't need their parents with them. No shit. I mean, it's. Anyone who's calling these girls masseuses is literally suffering from CTE or something. Did you fall and hit your head skateboarding? What happened that made you think something like that? Because these are not masseuses. Many speculated that the jury chose to acquit Maxwell on count two because the count related solely to Jane and that Jane was less credible than the other victims. But David told the independent that wasn't the case. We simply didn't see enough direct evidence to convict. On count two, it wasn't about believing Jane. And you know what? I look, sometimes you don't have all of the evidence. I thought it was a stretch to try and get her on that count anyway, but worth a shot, right? If it was up to me, I would have hit her with a hundred counts of RICO predicates. So, yeah, you're talking to the wrong guy. I would have smashed her with everything and hopefully five or six or 10 or 20 stick, but that's how they do it with Rico. You're gonna get hit with 150 predicates and good luck battling your way out of that. See you at court to have a plea deal, because that's inevitably what happens to normal folks who get busted up with rico. Count two was a substantive charge that required proof that Maxwell enticed Jane to travel across state lines. David said there just wasn't any direct evidence for any specific trip that Maxwell took any action to entice Jane to get on those flights. I personally was willing to find her guilty on count two, he said. But we all decided in the end there wasn't enough evidence. David also explained that he was convinced the closeness of Maxwell and Epstein's relationship and the key role she played in his life, well, that's hard not to believe, right? We all know the role Maxwell played in Epstein's life. We all know that Ghislaine Maxwell wasn't a socialite. She was not a madam. That would mean those girls were hookers. They were not. And we all know that she was a child abuser, a human trafficker, and. And an absolute scumbag. And frankly, I am glad these jurors have sent her up the river. Now, the question remains, and the big question hanging over everyone's head now is was this juror truthful? We're Gonna have to see, folks. Right. I'm gonna be on top of it. I'll be following it, you know, all day like usual. And tonight we'll be back with our Prince Andrew update. And if there's anything to add from this portion of the day, I'll get on that as well. Like I said, I have an article I want to share with you folks about the potential prison that Maxwell might go to or the kind of prison she might go to. I found it very interesting and I think that you folks will find it interesting as well. So with that said, we're going to wrap it up for this morning, folks, and you already know what's coming. You have some context episodes and. And then we have our evening update tonight. So I hope that all of you have a great day and that's going to do it for me for now. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobbycapucciorotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I@protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter. O B B Y Capucci the article that we discussed can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. So this situation with juror number 50 is still yet to be decided. Well, now Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers have come out and they're saying that Scotty David, Juror 50, should have never even been on this jury. Now, that is the point of contention, isn't it? Should he have been on this jury or shouldn't he have been on this jury? Well, that's what they're trying to figure out as we speak. And the decision is going to come down to what Judge Nathan makes of all of this. So if she thinks that Maxwell deserves a new trial, that's where we're going to end up. On the flip side of that, if Judge Nathan rules that, you know, Scotty David just misremembered here and didn't lie, well, there'll be no mistrial and we'll move on to the sentencing phase. Now, I hope that that is the route that we go. Right. I don't want to deal with another trial here. I know none of you want to deal with another, another trial. And I certainly know that the survivors don't. And really that's what it comes down to for me, right? Those ladies, those women, they don't deserve to go through this nonsense again to relive all of this, this nightmare. So I hope beyond hope that the court finds that things might have been a little wonky, but not out of line. That is my hope. But we'll have to see what Judge Nathan has to say. And you know that Maxwell's lawyers are going to be forceful as they try and request this new trial, try and request a new hearing to get their client off. So let's jump into this article from the Guardian and let's see what Victoria B. Kempis has to say. Ghislaine Maxwell lawyers say Scotty David should never have been on the jury. Attorneys reject explanation that Juror 50 flew through the screening questionnaire which would have flagged he had been sexually abused. And if I was the lawyers, I'd be saying the same thing, right? Hey, look, this guy obviously lied. We need a new trial. What the hell's going on here? And from my seat in the peanut gallery, that seems to be a pretty strong argument, right? Look, again, I'm not a lawyer and I don't, you know, I don't know the ins and outs on how these kind of things usually work, but I know that if it was me and this, this juror might have lied and I was, you know, looking at 80 years, I'd be doing everything in my power to try and get a new trial as well. Now, we all know that that doesn't work out so well for people in the justice system, right? When the court makes a decision, more times than not, that's the decision that stands. And we've seen that over and over in this Maxwell case, especially how many times has she taken it to the appeals court only to have the appeals court flip it right back down to Judge Nathan. Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyers have said the juror who did not disclose childhood sexual abuse provided a dubious explanation for the omission as they once again requested a new trial. Hey, look, again, I don't find his explanation to be very powerful or to be very convincing either, to be honest with you. And I really think that this guy threw a wrench in things here. You gotta be an honest person, right? Especially in a situation like this when you know that if you're out here bullshitting around, screwing things up, mucking things up, you could start the process all over again. And like Maria Farmer said last night on the during the interview, how many more roadblocks do these ladies need? The juror, Scotty David, was questioned and questioned in Court on 8 March about his lack of disclosure. David, who was Juror 50, told the judge, Alison Nathan, that he was distracted when he flew through a screening questionnaire for potential panelists. The court has now heard from juror 50 in his own words. If there is one thing we Learned from juror 50 at the hearing, it is he should have never been a member of this jury. Maxwell's lawyer said in court papers. And again, they don't have a, you know, weak argument here. Right. But we have to remember and frame the argument up against the backdrop of what precedent has to say. And for Team Maxwell, they're going to sink their teeth into anything they can, you know, sink their teeth into. At this point, they're like a drowning man, right? Any piece of debris. So, of course they're going to latch onto this and hope beyond hope that they can finagle this some way and manipulate this some way to make it really look like, you know, there was a lot of malfeasance done here so that they can get that new trial. That is their goal. Moreover, his answers to the court's questions, which he gave after careful preparation by his attorney and under the protection of government granted immunity, alternated between inconsistent, implausible and contradictory and at all times lacked credibility. Yikes. That's pretty harsh. That's a pretty harsh statement from Maxwell's team. But you shouldn't expect any less from these people. You saw the way they went after the survivors. You really think juror 50 is going to be spared from their wrath? Zero chance. But look, this guy made his own bed. Let's not forget. Nobody told him he had to lie or fly through the questionnaire. Nobody forced him to do any of that. He chose to do all of that. Juror50's explanation that he flew through the questionnaire does not hold water and is repeated after the fact. Assurances that the sexual abuse he suffered as a child did not affect his ability to be a fair and impartial juror were self serving and simply not believable. So basically, they're just calling this dude a straight up liar. That's what Maxwell's team is asserting. This dude's a liar and he is the reason why Maxwell got convicted. That is what her team is trying to say, and that's how they're trying to frame their argument that this dude can't be believed. He's an absolute liar, not a trustworthy guy. Lied to get on the jury, lied about this, lied about that, and they're really trying to drive that point home. Like anyone in his position, Juror 50 does not want to be responsible for the retrial of Ghislaine Maxwell. So he attempted to give innocuous explanations for his false questionnaire responses and his decision to tell his story to the international press following the trial. Well, yeah, who wants to be that person? Imagine going down in history as the. The moron who caused a retrial for Ghislaine Maxwell. Talk about going down in infamy. But, you know, look, that is definitely a possibility here. Is it likely? Look, I don't know, all right? But it's definitely a possibility here. And if Maxwell's lawyers can find a way to finagle this conversation and bend it more to their will, then who knows what will happen? But I think it's going to be a tough road for Ghislaine Maxwell to get another trial here. David said in court that his admission had been an honest mistake and he had not lied to serve on Maxwell's jury. David was granted immunity to answer Nathan's questions, and having previously stated that he would invoke his Fifth Amendment right against self incrimination. And again, look, that is certainly within your ability, right? It's. It's your right to plead the Fifth. But it doesn't look good in a situation like this, especially, you know, there's already questions about what this guy is up to. And then all of a sudden, well, you know what? I'm not going to answer any of these questions. I'm going to plead the Fifth. Uh, what? So of course, people who are paying attention or watching what's going on here scratch their head and say, well, why are you pleading the Fifth? Why don't you just tell the court what happened? Be honest, be truthful. But he didn't want to incriminate himself. Right. He understands that, you know, he. He could have been in jeopardy of some legal trouble. So he's like, you know what? I'm going to just plead the Fifth here and hope the government gives me a little immunity. We had to be at the courthouse super early. David told Nathan, and I got here early, and it took 45 minutes just to get through the security line. All of these little excuses that he's given, they all fall flat to me. Honestly, I really don't have any time for that kind of stuff. Oh, it was busy. Well, what did you think was going to happen? Oh, I got there super early. Well, yeah, that's what you're supposed to do. What is this guy even talking about? When they finally got the questionnaires, hours later, David heard papers being ripped off the questionnaire packets and people asking questions. Oh, so people asking questions and paper being Ripped off of packets, causes you to answer questions incorrectly or fly through the questionnaire. What does that even mean? Man, all of these reasons, all of these excuses he has given are ridiculous. Honestly, if I'm being real, they're ridiculous. We just sat there for three hours. I didn't have a phone. I didn't have a book. David said, I was just sitting. Sitting there, twiddling my thumbs, thinking about the breakup that just happened a few weeks prior and sitting in my feelings and not very focused. Well, you should have been. Should have asked to have been excused then. What are you doing? Why are you sitting around there if that's the sort of state of mind you're in? Go tell the jurors. Go tell the judge. Hey, look, I can't do this. I just had this bad breakup. I can't focus correctly. I think somebody else will be better served to serve on this jury. But no, he didn't do any of that, did he? A jury convicted Maxwell on 29 December of sex trafficking and related charges for procuring girls, some as young as 14, for the now deceased pedophile, not financier, Jeffrey Epstein, to sexually abuse. Maxwell maintains her innocence. Oh, I'm sure she does. You know, according to Glenn Maxwell, nothing illegal ever occurred. What she did was on the up and up. That's how people conduct themselves in their world, isn't it? Oh, it's no big deal. Just come over here and give Jeffrey a massage. Sick people. The whole lot of them are a bunch of sick, disgusting animals. Epstein, a convicted sex offender who once counted powerful people, including Prince Andrew and his circle, was arrested in July of 2019 for sex trafficking. He killed himself while awaiting trial in New York federal jail, allegedly. Right. Look, again, with the Epstein death, we don't have enough information one way or the other to say what happened in that jail cell. Right. At least I don't. Certainly not for me and Bill Barr coming out and telling me. Oh, well, you just have to believe what I'm telling you here, guys. Jeffrey Epstein killed himself. That certainly is not enough for me. Maxwell's watershed conviction was hurled into possible disarray following David's post trial interviews in which he mentioned being sexually abused as a child. David said that he told his fellow jurors about this to help them understand facts from a victim's point of view. Again, have we talked to the other jurors? Are. Are they going to come out and say that, yeah, this is the truth. I was swayed by this guy. So who knows what Nathan is up to behind the scenes, But I would think that that would be the right way to go. Did this guy really, you know, massage you one way or the other? What's, you know, what's up? David's statement spurred controversy as potential jurors were queried about past abuse during jury selection. Have you or a friend ever been the victim of a sexual. Of sexual harassment, Sexual abuse or sexual assault was one such prompt on the questionnaire. Who can really answer no to that, though, honestly? Does anyone know somebody who hasn't been sexually harassed, sexually abused, or sexually assaulted at this point in time? And that's really just a telling narrative on society in general, isn't it? After David's comments emerged, prosecutors asked Nathan to conduct an inquiry into his statements, a request that was quickly echoed by Maxwell's lawyers. Maxwell's legal team has repeatedly asked for a new trial over David's comments. And that's where we're at, right? We're trying to figure out what the next move is here. Are we going right to sentencing, or is it going to be a mistrial? And we're going back to the starting line to start this thing all over again. And I really, really hope that that is not the case. In paperwork filed on Tuesday, prosecutors argued against a new trial, pointing to David's insistence that he did not omit anything intentionally. Even if David had disclosed his past abuse, that would not have outright disqualified him from serving on the jury, they said. And that is the truth, right? When you come out and say, hey, look, I was abused, you answer honestly. That doesn't automatically mean you're not going to be on the jury. Chances are the defense is going to say, ah, nah, let's get rid of this guy. Bring somebody who's a little more neutral in chances are that's going to happen. But we don't know. Nobody knows the future. Nobody knows what would have happened. After the thoughtful and thorough hearing held by this court, it is crystal clear that the defendant received a fair trial. Prosecutors wrote. Juror 50, sworn testimony at the hearing made evident that he did not deliberately lie in completing that questionnaire, but that he instead made an honest mistake. And if it's determined that it was an honest mistake by Judge Nathan, then this is. It's a wrap, folks. Put a bow on it. Let's move on to sentencing. And that's the point we're at, right? Everyone's made their arguments. All the facts as we know them have been put forth. Now Judge Nathan is going to make a determination one way or the other. The Defendant cannot demonstrate that Juror 50 was biased at the hearing. Juror 50 repeatedly denied that he harbored any bias or feelings one way or another with respect to the defendants or the government. Prosecutors also wrote to the contrary. Juror 50 consistently testified that he was fair and impartial in this case and that he rendered a verdict consistent with the evidence and the court's instructions of law. Well, that's a pretty powerful statement by the prosecution and maybe a little bit overblown, right? But hey, look, let's be clear. The prosecution has a job to do. They don't want this to be a mistrial more than we do. Even go back and start all over. It looks really bad for them. So they're going to do everything they can to make sure that this conviction, this conviction sticks as well as they should, by the way. Because let's be honest, does anyone really think Ghislaine Maxwell didn't deserve to be convicted here? I mean, come on, all of that evidence that we heard, and then at the very end, for Annie to come out and drop the hammer with her testimony, it was a wrap. At least in my opinion, anyway. It is unclear when Judge Nathan will rule on the attorney's latest arguments. Longtime attorneys have previously told the Guardian that a retrial is unlikely. Again, who knows in the world of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell what's likely and unlikely at this point? But it certainly seems like Judge Nathan is leaning towards this verdict that being upheld. And if that's the case, we'll move on to sentencing. And Maxwell's team, while they'll be focusing on sentencing, they'll be moving on to trying to get this appealed. So we'll have to see what happens here and we'll see which way the ball bounces. But, you know, it's my opinion that we're going to see the sentencing phase very soon. That's what my gut is telling me right now. Especially after Scotty David had his little talk with Nathan. She didn't seem to be swayed too much as far as what the defense was trying to go for. So we'll have to see. But it doesn't look too promising for Ghislaine Maxwell and her legal team. Alright, folks, that is going to do it for this morning's update. Last night I spent some time with Maria Farmer and we had a fantastic conversation for about an hour. Talked about Epstein, obviously, Maxwell, obviously. But the main portion of the conversation revolved around Les Wexner. So if you haven't checked that episode out yet, go back to last night, the Evening update, and definitely download that one. As for me, well, I'll be back later on like usual. Some more episodes are certainly on their way. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobbycapucciorotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter Bobby Capuci. 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