Mega Edition: Ghislaine Maxwell, Her Incarceration And The State Department (5/8/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles: Mega Edition – Ghislaine Maxwell, Her Incarceration and the State Department (5/8/26)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: May 8, 2026
Main Theme:
This episode dives deep into the ongoing fallout of the Epstein case, focusing especially on the Clinton-Maxwell connection, the nepotistic hiring of Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew by Hillary Clinton, and the latest developments related to Maxwell's incarceration and appeals, with incisive critique of media coverage and the criminal justice system.

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1. Exploring Clinton-Maxwell-Epstein Ties

[00:59–04:59]

• Bobby Capucci praises the Daily Beast (and reporter Kate Bricklett) for courageously reporting on links between the Clintons and the Maxwell/Epstein ring, contrasting this with the general legacy media avoidance of the topic.

  "This is a staunchly left-leaning outlet and they are showing tremendous courage here..." – Bobby ([02:33])

• The host highlights the hypocrisy of partisan media outlets sheltering power players to avoid giving ‘ammunition’ to political rivals.

  "They would rather keep it covered up how tight Maxwell and the Clintons were than to give so called ammunition to their political rivals." – Bobby ([01:36])

• Key revelations include:
  • Ghislaine Maxwell attending Chelsea Clinton’s wedding.
  • Jeffrey Epstein’s early role in fundraising for the Clinton Global Initiative.
  • Bill Clinton’s association with Epstein, including the infamous painting of Clinton in Epstein’s home and multiple social visits.

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2. Epstein, Clinton, and the DNC

[05:00–10:05]

• On the public record: Photos of Bill Clinton receiving a massage from survivor Shante Davies during his 2002 trip to Africa with Epstein.

  "Bill Clinton was a perfect gentleman... But don’t you think it’s kind of a big deal that an ex-president... was pictured getting a massage from a girl who was actively being sex trafficked...?" – Bobby ([06:44])

• Critique of the DNC for giving Clinton a prominent platform despite these associations:

  "We have an ex president pictured getting a massage from a girl who is being actively trafficked during the time." – Bobby ([07:34])

• Host points out the lack of serious investigation by mainstream media, with any scrutiny dismissed as a 'vast right wing conspiracy.'

  "Anytime it happens, the default reaction is it's a right wing conspiracy to take us down. It's a vast right wing conspiracy. No, it's not." – Bobby ([07:18])

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3. Hillary Clinton and Ghislaine Maxwell's Nephew: The State Department Controversy

[09:56–14:11]

• The revelation: Hillary Clinton gave Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew, Alexander de Rossi, a State Department job, confirmed by de Rossi’s own LinkedIn profile and State emails (released via WikiLeaks).

  "This is absolute nepotism at its finest. Alexander de Rossi had no business being in the position he was in." – Bobby ([10:06])

• Alexander de Rossi’s roles included:
  • Chief of Staff for the Office of the Assistant Secretary of State, Bureau of Near Eastern Affairs (2011–2012)
  • Special Assistant in the same bureau (2009–2011)
  • U.S. representative at multiple Middle East policy conferences, deeply involved during the Arab Spring.
• Host asserts that his contacts have validated de Rossi’s hiring and questions his qualifications for the role:

  "I've talked to people... there is zero doubt that De Rossi was given the job by Hillary Clinton's State Department." – Bobby ([11:19])

• Broader implications: The severity of nepotism, and poorly conceived U.S. Middle East policy.

  "Everywhere the State Department ends up in the Middle east, everywhere they dip their fingers, turns into a quagmire of shit..." – Bobby ([16:21])

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4. Political and Media Accountability

[18:51–23:14]

• Context: De Rossi's hiring overlaps with Epstein’s 2007–08 investigation and plea deal—an especially troubling timeline.

  "He was hired in 2007 and 2008 while Epstein was under investigation... Hillary Clinton hires her [Ghislaine Maxwell's] nephew and brings him onto her presidential campaign team." – Bobby ([18:57])

• Further critique of media reluctance to investigate:

  "You would think that this story involving Bill Clinton, of all people, would be rocking the establishment, but they are so shameless..." – Bobby ([22:54])

• Discussion of the inclusion of Clinton staffers in Epstein’s “little black book”; the alleged Bill Clinton-Maxwell affair; and Virginia Roberts’ documented claims about Clinton’s travel with Epstein.

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5. Virginia Roberts' Allegations & Maxwell/Clinton Dynamics

[23:14–24:23]

• Roberts' allegations that Clinton visited Epstein's island, and Epstein’s claim to “have the President in his pocket.”

  "You know, I remember asking Jeffrey, what's Bill Clinton doing here on the island? Roberts told the attorney... Epstein laughed... 'Well, he owes me a favor.'" – Quoting Virginia Roberts’ conversation ([24:01])

• Host suggests the vast scope of the criminal conspiracy is underplayed due to media tribalism and lack of serious investigative will.

  "Because as of right now, in my opinion, there is nothing more important going on right now than getting to the bottom of this case." – Bobby ([25:25])

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6. Ghislaine Maxwell's Incarceration: Family's Appeal and Public Sentiment

[26:32–50:54]

• Daily Mail article covers Maxwell’s brother Ian’s outrage at the denial of a retrial, his critique of the U.S. justice system, and arguments over perceived bias (“loaded dice”).

  "She is shocked and perturbed by the decision... the only thing that's really deeply tainted here is Ghislaine Maxwell's behavior." – Bobby ([26:41])

• Bobby’s withering rejoinder:

  "Nobody cares. Enjoy the baloney sandwiches and shut your yap. Convicted sex trafficker. God, I love reading that." – Bobby ([27:05])

• Analysis of the now-rejected juror controversy and Maxwell family’s persistent appeals.
  • Bobby points out Maxwell already enjoyed exceptional privilege:

    "How many bail attempts did Kalief Browder get? How many bail attempts did insert just about any person in prison right now or jail..." – Bobby ([50:54])

• Host slams Ian Maxwell’s efforts to scapegoat the MeToo movement for Maxwell’s conviction, and his continued claims of judicial unfairness.

  "He keeps throwing these shots at America, bro. Here's an idea. Kick fucking rocks and go back to England. Nobody wants you here anyway, you sick bastard." – Bobby ([44:38])

• On the conditions of Maxwell's incarceration:

  "I know people who have done eight or nine [years] for gambling, bro. Zero remorse from me. Not one bit." – Bobby ([46:47])

• Critique of the narrative-building ahead of appeals, and scoffing at claims of Maxwell’s innocence or unfair treatment.

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7. Key Quotes & Memorable Moments

• "The Clintons are as dirty as they come. And not enough has been done in regards to their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein." – Bobby ([07:25])
• "I'm not one of these people that's looking for a hatchet job. Not when it comes to this case." – Bobby ([08:14])
• "We leave no stone unturned as we swim through the muck searching for clarity and answers..." – Bobby (paraphrased from broader podcast project intro)
• On State Department meddling: "You catch the pattern. Everywhere the State Department ends up in the Middle east... turns into a quagmire of shit." – Bobby ([16:21])
• "These disgusting, gross entities like Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein have invaded every level of our lives." – Bobby ([20:54])

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8. Summary: Episode Takeaways

• The episode is a scathing examination of the web of political, business, and media complicity in enabling Epstein and Maxwell.
• Host Bobby Capucci argues that media tribalism and elite self-protection have prevented full accountability, especially for the Clintons and their social-political connections to Epstein/Maxwell.
• The hiring of Alexander de Rossi, despite his dubious qualifications, is presented as emblematic of systemic nepotism and poor governance.
• Attempts by Maxwell’s family to frame her prosecution as unjust are met with derision and strong factual rebuttal.
• Bobby calls for equal outrage and investigative rigor irrespective of political affiliation, focusing relentlessly on the objective of survivor justice and true exposure of the Epstein network.

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Listener Utility:
This summary covers every major discussion point, speaker’s stance, and critical context you need to understand the episode—whether you’re an Epstein case follower or new to these topics. It captures the host’s tone (“no punches pulled,” acerbic, determined), includes verbatim standout moments, and points you to specific timestamps for deeper review.

Contact:
If you wish to follow up or discuss, Bobby provides his email (bobbycapucciprotonmail.com) and Twitter (@BobbyCapucci) for listener engagement.

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Transcript

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[Bobby Capuchino]

any disease we're going to talk about an article from the Daily Beast again. And folks, I know I gave them props recently for their coverage, but I have to do it again here. This is very, very, very good stuff from the Daily Beast. Not too many people have wanted to

[Ian Maxwell]

talk about the ties between Bill Clinton,

[Bobby Capuchino]

Hillary Clinton and Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. A lot of these legacy media outlets have shied away from it because they don't want to give ammunition to the other side. That's how pathetic these people are. They would rather keep it covered up how tight Maxwell and the Clintons were than to give so called ammunition to their political arrivals. Just think about that for a minute, folks. Think about how dastardly that is, how gross that is.

[Ian Maxwell]

Well, we're not going to worry about

[Bobby Capuchino]

that here on the podcast and we're not going to worry about upsetting anybody. Because the truth is all that matters in this case and every single person who was involved needs to be put on blast. And the fact that the DNC would have Bill Clinton and Hillary Clinton speak at their convention is absolutely nauseating. It's nauseating. Just like Dershowitz being a lawyer for the President of the United States. Absolutely disgusting. And what it does is it shows you that these people truly do not care what we think or what we say. They believe that they can get away with whatever they want to get away with and there will be no repercussions. Nobody will ever call them out. Nobody will ever ask the hard questions because, hell, we're the Clintons. Why would anyone ask us the hard questions? Well, the Daily Beast is asking those hard questions. And the Daily Beast is also bringing up the fact that Hillary Clinton hired Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew to work for her at the State Department. This isn't some conspiracy theory. This isn't made up. This is a fact. We've discussed it here on the podcast previously. We didn't go too much in depth into it because there wasn't much there besides his profile, you know, his LinkedIn profile where he had worked, et cetera, et cetera. We covered all of that. But now the Daily Beast has put it into an article form and it should not shock you that it was Kate Bricklett who wrote this article. Now, we all know Daily Beast is a pretty heavily left leaning outlet. So there can be no rumbles of this being some sort of right wing hit job or a right wing hit piece. None of that shit at all. This is a staunchly left leaning outlet and they are showing tremendous courage here to bring something like this up. Because folks, this is a bombshell. Can you imagine? Think about this for a minute. Think about if Donald Trump's wife hired Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew to work for her at the State Department. Think about the bedlam that would ensue. And all I'm asking for from the legacy media is to be equally outraged. But so far from most in the legacy media, it is one way traffic and do anything to protect our faves, just like Nancy Pelosi's daughter said. All right, so onto our article. The headline, Hillary Clinton gave State Department job to Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew, author Kate Bricklett. And again, this is in the Daily Beast. Since Ghislaine Maxwell's arrest on charges of helping Jeffrey Epstein abuse underage girls, rumors have swirled about her ties to famous figures, including Democratic power couple Bill and Hillary Clinton.

[Ian Maxwell]

I don't really think we could call

[Bobby Capuchino]

them even rumors at this point.

[Ian Maxwell]

Right.

[Bobby Capuchino]

We know that Ghislaine Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding. We know that according to Gerald Lefcourt and Alan Dershowitz, Jeffrey Epstein was one of the first donors to the Clinton Global Initiative and somebody who helped get

[Ian Maxwell]

it off the ground.

[Bobby Capuchino]

We know that Bill Clinton was found in a painting dressed as a woman on Jeffrey Epstein's wall. We know that the Clintons were guests of Epstein all over at every at all of his properties. And the legacy media doesn't think it's fitting to dive deeper into this. They don't think it's a good idea to really find out what the deal was here. I mean, you know, Epstein's only been visiting the Clinton White House since the,

[Ian Maxwell]

you know, his term. No, no big deal, right?

[Bobby Capuchino]

Nothing, Nothing to see here, folks.

[Ian Maxwell]

Keep it moving.

[Bobby Capuchino]

Keep it moving. Don't. The Clintons.

[Ian Maxwell]

No, they're off limits.

[Bobby Capuchino]

We can't.

[Ian Maxwell]

We can't talk about them because it might sabotage us politically.

[Bobby Capuchino]

That's how gross this all is. It's all about politics to some of these people. And I'll tell you what. I'm sick and tired of it. On Tuesday, the Daily Mail published photos of former President Clinton receiving a neck massage from Shantae Davies, one of Jeffrey Epstein's survivors, during a stopover on his infamous 2002 trip to Africa with a deceased sex trafficker. And again, folks, look, Shantae has come out, out and said that Bill Clinton was a perfect gentleman. You've never heard me once here say that Bill Clinton abused anybody on the island with, with Epstein or according to the evidence we have thus far, anywhere when he was with Epstein. But don't you think it's kind of a big deal that an ex president,

[Ian Maxwell]

such a powerful man who still holds

[Bobby Capuchino]

great power within the Democratic Party, was pictured getting a massage from a girl who was actively being sex trafficked and abused on a regular basis by the man who was hosting him? That's not a big deal. Come on now. It's a huge deal and it needs to be all over the place. Nobody has dug into the Clintons and asked them the hard questions. Anytime it happens, the default reaction is it's a right wing conspiracy to take us down. It's a vast right wing conspiracy. No, it's not.

[Ian Maxwell]

Okay?

[Bobby Capuchino]

The Clintons are as dirty as they come. And not enough has been done in regards to their relationship to Jeffrey Epstein.

[Ian Maxwell]

Point blank period.

[Bobby Capuchino]

I know that's gonna make some people mad out there, but I do not care. Enough is enough here, folks. We have an ex president pictured getting a massage from a girl who is being actively trafficked during the time.

[Ian Maxwell]

I mean, are you kidding me right now? How is people.

[Bobby Capuchino]

How are people enraged by this? How did this man have a seat at the DNC to talk and bloviate and preach to the rest of us? According to Davies, Maxwell was present for the voyage and encouraged Davies to give Clinton the massage. Would you mind giving it a crack? Clinton allegedly asked Davies, who claimed he was a complete gentleman during the triple. And again, I'm not sitting here saying Bill Clinton abused anybody with Jeffrey Epstein. I don't have that evidence. And I'm not one of these people that's looking for a hatchet job. Not when it comes to this case.

[Ian Maxwell]

All right, don't get me wrong.

[Bobby Capuchino]

I have my own political beliefs. We all have our own political beliefs and our own political leanings. But the fact of the matter is this. An ex president who just spoke at the DNC convention is pictured being massaged by an actively trafficked girl. I'm gonna keep driving that point home, folks. The unseemly images were revealed just before Clinton addressed the virtual Democratic national convention. Davies was 22 at the time, and Clinton has denied any misconduct or knowing of Epstein's abuse of young women. Again, that is not a good enough excuse for me.

[Ian Maxwell]

I am sorry.

[Bobby Capuchino]

That does not work. You're the ex President of the United States. The Secret Service didn't vet Jeffrey Epstein. They didn't know what was up with him. They didn't know he was a sick bastard with proclivities. If that's the case, then maybe the. The people that work at the Secret Service should be fired and new people should be brought in that know what they're doing. But somehow I think it had to do with the President telling the Secret Service to screw off. I don't care what you say or think. Jeffrey's my buddy, and we're gonna hang out. Now, the celebrity tabloid, okay. Magazine, is reporting that ex Secretary of State Hillary Clinton gifted Maxwell's nephew, Alexander de Rossi, a position within her department when he was just out of college and gave him special treatment.

[Ian Maxwell]

Now, we have talked about this extensively

[Bobby Capuchino]

here on the podcast. Now, I can't say one way or the other about special treatment because I don't have any knowledge of that one

[Ian Maxwell]

way or the other.

[Bobby Capuchino]

But what I will tell you is this. This is absolute nepotism at its finest. Alexander de Rossi had no business being in the position he was in. As somebody who studies that region, as somebody who's. Whose school background is in the Near East, I can tell you with certainty that Alexander de Rossi had no business over there. And in fact, you can see by the result of how disgusting things turned out after the Arab Spring was put into place. Oh, you. What, you thought that that just happened? You thought that that was organic? Those seeds were sown by the CIA and Hillary Clinton's State House. I mean, a State Department. The Daily Beast cannot confirm details of de Rossi's appointment with the State Department, nor if the role was, in fact, Gifted by Clinton. The reports come as Maxwell, 58, awaits trial in a Brooklyn federal lockup for allegedly grooming and trafficking girls for Epstein. While I can confirm for sure that he worked for the department, without a shadow of a doubt he had this job. I've talked to people that I know who are in the know, let's say, when it comes to stuff like this, and there is zero doubt that De Rossi was given the job by Hillary Clinton's State Department. And if you think Hillary didn't call down to whoever was in charge of human resources and give him the nod and tell him, look, this is the guy I want, put him through, then you're being very naive or you're getting fat at the buffet of confirmation bias. It's one or the other. The report also appears to reference de Rossi's linked LinkedIn profile, which lists his role as chief of Staff for the Office of the Assistant Secretary of State Bureau of Near Eastern affairs from May 2011 to June 2012. De Rossi served as special assistant to the office from May 2009 to May 2011. His online profile says. Now remember, that's his online profile that says it.

[Ian Maxwell]

Okay?

[Bobby Capuchino]

I've, I've seen the profile myself. I've looked at it and there's no doubt in my mind, all right? This isn't some made up story. This isn't some hit piece. This isn't some salicious BS. This isn't Dr. Fauci owned the house

[Ian Maxwell]

that Ghislaine was hiding in.

[Bobby Capuchino]

It's none of that garbage, okay? Alexander de Rossi worked for the State Department. Fact, he also worked for the Clinton Kane run, the team that was running for president.

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[Bobby Capuchino]

Fact. De Rossi's name also popped up in a collection of Clinton's emails released via WikiLeaks. In a November 2011 message, Assistant Secretary Jeffrey Feltman referred to his special assistant, Alex De Rossi. Feltman mentioned de Rossi again in a January 2012 email, according to WikiLeaks. Well, not really according to WikiLeaks. I've read the emails right there for anyone who wants to read them. And it's okay to read those emails, folks, alright? I know that Chris Cuomo told you that he'll tell you what's in those WikiLeaks emails, but it's okay for you to go and look at them yourselves. And I think that you should. I think way too much focus was put on the fact that supposedly, which I do not agree with, that these emails were hacked and not enough, not enough spotlight was put on what was actually in the emails. I think that now that people have a little bit more of a cool head about things, I think people who did not dig into those WikiLeaks WikiLeaks emails should most definitely go back and dig into them. De Rossi was also a non resident associate at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. A biography on the Endowment's website states, de Rossi's research focused on Tunisia and US Foreign policy toward the Middle east and North Africa. Oh, North Africa, huh? Would that be Libya? Wouldn't that be Libya? You know, didn't we destabilize the shit out of Libya? Isn't Tunisia a bit destabilized as well? What role did Alexander da Rossi play in the Arab Spring? And furthermore, was he even worthy of being in that position? Did he have the proper credentials? The Bio ads from 2009 to 2012, De Rossi was Chief of Staff And Special assistant in the U.S. department of State's Bureau of Near Eastern affairs, covering U.S. relations with Arab states, Israel and Iran. He worked on matters relating to democratization and civil society in the Arab world, the Arab uprising and Israeli Palestinian peace. Folks, look, that whole entire Arab Spring was straight up garbage and horribly, horribly executed. This is something I can speak about with confidence. This is where my bread and butter is talking about the Middle East. Middle east negotiations, strife in the Middle east, the history of the wars in the Middle east, et cetera, et cetera. Near east policy is where I cut my teeth. So the fact that this guy is running around and acting like it's a good thing he was involved in this Arab Spring. Yeah, not so much. The Arab Spring was an abject failure and it was just another example of terrible, terrible planning and carrying, carrying out of a mission in the Middle East. Derassi has served as a U.S. representative to the Friends of Libya conferences, shocking Friends of the Syrian People conferences. Oh, that's a shock as well. US GCC Strategic Coordination Forum and several UN General Assemblies. The profile concluded. Let's see. Libya, civil war, Syria civil war. You see what's going on here, folks? You catch the pattern. Everywhere the State Department ends up in the Middle east, everywhere they dip their fingers turns into a quagmire of shit. And de Rossi was directly involved in all of that. From September 2007 to June 2008, De Rossi was policy associate for Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign. He listed his job duties as such, researched and drafted memos, briefings and policy papers for candidate, senior staff and news media on wide range of domestic and foreign policy issues. Prepared for more than 20 debates. In late 2007, Epstein was under investigation for trafficking girls in Palm beach and working on a secret plea deal with federal prosecutors. Maxwell is believed to be one accomplice who was protected under the controversial agreement. Now think about that. He was hired in 2007 and 2008 while Epstein was under investigation. While Epstein was about to go to jail, Hillary Clinton was hiring Ghislaine Maxwell, who was protected by the plea agreement.

[Ian Maxwell]

Mind you, we all know she was guilty as hell. But Hillary Clinton hires her nephew and

[Bobby Capuchino]

brings him on to her presidential campaign team. And then when she loses a little bit later on down the road, after Epstein's already been convicted, she brings him back to the State Department to work. You mean to tell me that there were no policy wonks available besides Alexander de Rossi? I know that's a lie. I have plenty of colleagues who would have loved to have that job. Plenty of very, very well decorated colleagues who would have loved to throw their hat in that ring to have a chance to fix and set policy for the Middle East.

[Ian Maxwell]

But no, she hires Ghislaine, Maxwell's nephew.

[Bobby Capuchino]

Isn't that fantastic folks? The Yale and Princeton alum, the son of Maxwell's sister Isabel, apparently returned for Clinton's 2016 presidential run. De Rossi lists jobs as national security policy planner for the Clinton Kaine presidential transition team in 2016. Maxwell and Epstein's connections to the Clintons have faced greater scrutiny after Epstein was arrested in July 2019 for his years long child sex trafficking screen scheme. Well, I agree that they're starting to get a little bit more scrutiny, but not from the powers that be, not from the huge outlets. Again, the Daily Beast and Kate specifically has been going hard in the paint here and they have taken the same strategy that I have and that is

[Ian Maxwell]

fire and burn for anybody involved.

[Bobby Capuchino]

I don't have any political favorites. I am a political refugee at this point. So I really could care less which side wins or loses anymore. I don't even care about it, any of it. All I care about is this absolute injustice that we see on a regular basis within our criminal justice system and within the country itself. These disgusting, gross entities like Elaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein have invaded every level of our lives. And these people and their friends are the ones who make the decisions for how things are going to go for us, our children and those we love. And if that does not terrify you folks, I honestly have no idea what will happen. As the Daily Beast reported, Epstein visited the Clinton White House multiple Times in the 90s and Maxwell attended Chelsea Clinton's wedding in 2010. And not only that, we have heard reports that Maxwell and Clinton Bill were engaged in an affair. You know, you can go look it up for yourselves. You would think that the legacy media would do a better job informing you about all of this, but they're too busy trying to protect their faves. Meanwhile, several Clinton staffers were listed in Epstein's little black book, including Cheryl Mills, Mark Middleton and Doug Band. Now, Doug Band is an interesting guy as far as bagmen go. And for bunglers, he is right at the top of the list. Virginia Roberts, a survivor of Epstein's abuse, has previously claimed Bill Clinton visited Epstein's private island in the U.S. virgin Islands. And yes, she has. So again, either you believe Virginia or you don't. I believe Virginia and I believe all of this evidence that we have about Bill Clinton too. Robert said Maxwell and someone Same Nemi, Emmy, Emmy Taylor were present for Clinton's trip, along with a pair of young girls from New York. They all allegedly stayed in villas outside the main residence. The accusations were revealed in a tranche of court documents unsealed last month, and Roberts now settled defamation suit against Maxwell. And again, you want to talk about craziness. You want to talk about a story that should be blowing the lid off of things. You would think that this story involving Bill Clinton, of all people would be rocking the establishment, but they are so shameless that they trot him and his wife out for their DNC rally like nobody's paying attention to what.

[Ian Maxwell]

What went on.

[Bobby Capuchino]

Now, of course, the legacy media is going to try and stuff all this. They're going to try and hide it. They'll try and make excuses. But I know for a fact that people following this case at this point do not give a. About these stupid partisan politics. People want the. The. The gross disgustoids who are involved in this to burn. In a conversation with a lawyer, Roberts said Epstein told her that he had the former President in his pocket. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey, what's Bill Clinton doing here on the island? Roberts told the attorney, according to a transcript of their conversation. She said Epstein laughed off her question and replied, well, he owes me a favor. Yeah, I bet he does. Lord only knows what Jeffrey Epstein had on Bill Clinton and the rest of these scumbags. Lord only knows what sort of dis. Gross activities these people were engaged in. And not only that, who knows what sort of financial crimes they were all

[Ian Maxwell]

engaged in as well.

[Bobby Capuchino]

He never told me what favors they were. Roberts continued.

[Ian Maxwell]

I never knew.

[Bobby Capuchino]

I didn't know if he was serious. It was just a joke. And again with Jeffrey Epstein, I don't think the guy jokes, to be honest with you. I don't think anything he talks about is. Is a joke or talked about, I should say, is a joke. When it came to this kind of shit, he was deathly, deadly serious. Now, you would think that Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew working for the State Department, working for two presidential runs of Hillary Clinton and being obviously brought in there with an extreme act of nepotism would be a huge story that would have journalists from the New York Times, the Post, all of the legacy media outlets falling over themselves to try and get an interview with De Rossi and try and figure out what went on. But instead, they are more worried that it might give ammunition to the other side. So instead of bringing justice to the survivors and attempting to right a severe wrong they would much rather engage in tribalistic politics. My opinion on all of that is that I hope they all go down. Because at the end of the day, what is more disgusting than a human trafficking ring being run by a man like Epstein with so many connections to the most powerful people, not only in the United States, but but all over the world. You show me a story that is more important than that and I'll give it some airtime. Because as of right now, in my opinion, there is nothing more important going on right now than getting to the bottom of this case. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter Obby Capucci. New customers download what's up, everyone?

[Ian Maxwell]

And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Tonight we have an article from the Daily Mail and Ghislaine Maxwell's brother wants us all to know how shocked and perturbed she was that her conviction didn't get overturned. So let's jump right into the article from the Daily Mail and let's see what's what. The author of this article is Nick Pisa. She is shocked and perturbed by the decision. Child sex trafficker Ghislaine Maxwell's brother blasts judges loaded refusal to grant her a retrial after deeply tainted conviction. I mean, the only thing that's really deeply tainted here is Ghislaine Maxwell's behavior. She's what's really tainted. You're shocked and you're perturbed. Breaking news. Nobody cares. Enjoy the baloney sandwiches and shut your yap. Convicted sex trafficker. God, I love reading that. Ghislaine Maxwell's brother says the family is shocked and perturbed by a judge's decision to reject a retrial request, saying it was loaded against her. The former socialite, co conspirator, general all around scuzzbag, bipedal serpent and close pal of Prince Andrew was found guilty last year. But it later emerged jury member Scotty David had failed to disclose he had been sexually abused as a child. Well, we all know that didn't go anywhere for Maxwell and her team. And that was the bit of debris that they had to hold onto as they were floating around amongst the wreckage. Now. Well, you can only dog paddle for so long.

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[Ian Maxwell]

Her family and legal team say this swayed the jury to find her guilty of being a recruiter of teenage girls for pedophile Jeffrey Epstein, and she could now face 65 years in jail. No, sorry, nobody believes that. The judge didn't believe it. And I, like I've always said, I highly doubt that the other jurors were waiting with baited breath for Scotty David to tell them what to do. That's not giving them enough credit for being, you know, people with their own minds and thoughts and ways to discern what's real and what's not. Defense lawyers had hoped they could secure a retrial for Maxwell, 60, after the juror revelations emerged. Last week. After the juror revelations emerged. But last week, District Judge Allison Nathan dismissed the request. And now, of course, they're going to appeal. And that appeal will go to the 2nd Circuit Court, who has already denied how many different Maxwell appeals, how many different appeals by people involved in this to keep things sealed so they can try and go to the Appeals court. But it's going to be a serious uphill climb. And when I say an uphill climb, I'm talking Mount Everest in a pair of Crocs and shorts. Speaking for the first time about it, Maxwell's brother Ian said, to say we were shocked is understated. Clearly. Ghislaine was also very perturbed by it. If I had to summarize it, the dice were loaded by the court. Look, your sister got away with this for how long? She never had to suffer any of the repercussions for what she was doing with Epstein. All because, by the way, she was named in that non prosecution agreement. Without that thing, your sister's goose would have been cooked a long time ago, Ian. But because of that monstrosity, because of that deviant ass deal that she caught, well, she was able to continue on with her life, living it up, starting charities, hanging out in submarines, dating billionaires, while these girls were left to try and put the pieces together of their life. So I don't give a damn about how shocked or perturbed Ghislaine Maxwell is. I hope, honestly, that she's even more shocked and more perturbed when she actually gets to prison. The verdict was unsafe by virtue of this, this juror. And the decision is deeply tainted. Nope. The only thing deeply tainted, once again, is your sister, her behaviors and, well, your father's behavior as well. Your father's a thief, your sister's a human trafficker, a thief, all kinds of stuff. And you're out here talking about your things are deeply tainted. And you're shocked and you're perturbed. This is going to go to appeal. It's just one of the many points of appeal, pre trial, in trial, post trial. And we are confident that Ghislaine will be successful on appeal. Just like you were confident that she wasn't going to get convicted. Just like you were confident that everybody was lined up against Glenn Maxwell, unfairly. Never showed up with a receipt, never showed up with any evidence, never showed up with any witnesses that could back up the stuff you folks were saying. Meanwhile, there was ream after ream of evidence pointing in the other direction. He also slammed the US judicial system, saying that it was always going to be against his sister, and said the prosecution held an infamous press conference the day of her arrest. They point they pointed to a picture of Epstein and my sister and the implication was that she was guilty, which meant it was open season on Ghislaine and it never let up. Well, look, that's what Happens when you're. You're accused of a crime, okay, you get arrested. And if you're a high profile person, there's a news conference again. You don't want your sister to be mentioned with Jeffrey Epstein. Maybe you should have been around to guide her and tell her not to hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. Where were you at, Ian? What were you doing? There is no possibility in English system. An English system Prosecutor, hold a press conference and say this woman is guilty before any trial has taken place. Ghislaine was depicted as some evil mole. It's grotesque. Well, she was depicted as she is. And as far as what happens in England, well, that's all fine and. Well, tell your sister to commit her crimes in England. Oh, wait, she did. But nobody cared, right? Of course you're gonna bring up the English justice system. I mean, really, the same justice system that. That let Jimmy Savile run rampant again. Don't be popping your head over your wall and telling your neighbor to clean up their yard when yours looks like. Numerous accusers who were not called in this trial lawyers have been vociferous and none and none of it has been put to the test. It's just drip, drip, drip. What? You wanted more accusers called you? I don't even understand what that means. How many more? What more do you want? You had four who came up there and gave horrendous testimony about what your sister was up to. There's literally hundreds. I can only imagine the stories that someone like Nadia could tell us. Imagine if she was willing to talk. Imagine if she was willing to come forward and speak to the authorities or whatever. Give her some kind of immunity deal or something. Boy, I can only imagine. Because all of the nonsense that you hear from Ian Maxwell and all of these other people, they weren't around. How did they know what happened? All they're going on is what Ghislaine Maxwell told them. Meanwhile, the evidence points in a completely different direction. So I don't care if you're my brother, my sister, my father, my mother, of course at first I'm going to believe you. But if there's reams and reams of evidence that come out, and it is staggering how much evidence there is against you. I'm not going to be out here running some sort of campaign acting like you're innocent. Now, I still love you. I'll probably put some money on your books and shit. But besides that, don't think you're gonna have me out here acting as a surrogate when I see the Evidence that's laid against you. And there's no way that her brothers don't know what's going on here. Speaking to journalist Jay Beecher of his sister's case, Ian, 66, said. It's got sex, it's got death, these guys dying in prison, it's got royalty, it's got money, it's got famous people, young girls, everything you could dream of. All of the elements are there.

[Bobby Capuchino]

Jay Beecher, huh?

[Ian Maxwell]

Oh, yeah, No. I wonder why he spoke to him. He also suggested the MeToo social movement against sexual abuse and harassment had also played its part in Maxwell's guilty verdict last December in a New York court. Well, that's funny, because the MeToo movement was nowhere to be seen throughout this whole entire case. Ask the survivors, they'll tell you. So what does that Even mean, the MeToo movement? It's like he just throws out all of these, like, buzzwords, hoping they catch. Ian explained this has also had an enormous impact. Impact. All women must be believed. All victims must be believed. Well, I don't, I don't ascribe to that. How many times have I said it here on this podcast? I don't believe all of anyone. We're all gray characters. If you come out with accusations like this, you better have some evidence to back it up. Because I don't just believe all women, I don't believe all men. I believe evidence. And wherever that evidence goes. So again, just more talking points. What he's trying to do is create an error around this, like things were improper, like Maxwell wasn't given the fair shake she deserves. Meanwhile, we all know she was given more than a fair shake. But we know in this count in this country that so called victims turn out not to be victims. Carl beach invented claims of widespread establishment sex abuse would be the finest example of that. So again, let's blame the survivors, blame the victims that they all made it up. None of this ever happened. Ghislaine Maxwell is just a great girl and none of this ever happened. All hundreds of these girls all lie. They got together and made up these stories. These kinds of things go on. And jury verdicts have been overturned time and time again. And obviously we, we hope this is going to happen on this occasion as well. I mean, it's funny. Have you noticed that all of these clowns have shut up about the picture all of a sudden? Remember how vocal they all were about how fake the picture was? Got Irish stand ins, you got body doubles, all kinds of wild. Yeah, the journalist, he's talking to one of those types. But we all know the score. All right? It's.

[Bobby Capuchino]

It's.

[Ian Maxwell]

The writing is on the wall. And the only people who are denying what went on here at this point are people that are close to Maxwell and Andrew and people who have skin in the game who knows that they're gonna be in big trouble if this all is ever exposed. Besides that, the rest of the world, the vast majority of the world is looking at this. And all of the players involved, all of the enablers, all of the surrogates, and we're all coming to the same conclusion. You're all a bunch of scumbags. All this forms a powerful package of appeal points that, for me, show this trial was not fair. With. On top of that, the lying juror, Ian added. My sister has been banged up. Now it will be two years in July. She is in horrendous incarceration. She is in isolation. She is on suicide watch. She continues to have torches, flashlights shown in her eyes every 15 minutes to make sure she is still breathing. Well, get it. Should be on the flip side, should they not do that? And then something happens to your sister so you and your boy over here can come up and complain about, oh, how she was left to be hurt. It was on purpose. Nope, not this time. Maxwell's gonna stand and deliver. If somebody is going to go to prison forever, and it can't be Epstein, it might as well be the number two in the organization, right? You know, if John Gotti died, do you really think that the mafia would have just stopped their investigation? That's it. Gotti's dead. Let's forget about it. No, because it's a criminal enterprise, right? Same goes here. Your sister, Ian Maxwell, was engaged in a criminal enterprise. In fact, she was the underboss of that criminal enterprise, according to many people with knowledge of what went on. So now she is paying the price. She is denied all kinds of rights and opportunities. It's a shocker. She was already frail, mentally and physically at the start of the trial. And. And I think this impacted for sure on whether she would give evidence in her own defense, knowing what an aggressive affair that would have been. Oh, but it's okay for the girls to go do it, right? Who have lived this. This nightmare their whole lives, they can get up there and testify, but your sorry excuse for a human as a sister, she can't, right? Okay, sure. Why? Oh, that's why the interrogators, the prosecutors would have lit her up like it was the 4th of July. These kinds of conditions in a first world country should not be acceptable. They are not acceptable in our country and they should not be acceptable acceptable in America. But they appear to be. He keeps throwing these shots at America, bro. Here's an idea. Kick fucking rocks and go back to England. Nobody wants you here anyway, you sick bastard. Go and hang out with the ghost of Jimmy Savile and off. While I agree that the conditions in America as far as jails go definitely need to be examined, I don't think that Ghislaine Maxwell's incarceration should be the thing that gets that ball rolling. These people are the upper crust of the upper crust. If they were so worried about the conditions inside of these jails and prisons, don't you think that they would have been talking about this a long time ago, before Maxwell was arrested? Don't you think they would have been throwing bunches of money at, at reforming the, the criminal justice system? But no, they didn't, right? Because they don't care until they're caught up in it. And they don't care because the people that they're giving money to, political donations, well, they're the ones who write these laws and they put the loopholes and technicalities in these laws so people like Maxwell never have to pay the piper. Well, guess what? Time to pay up. He also questioned why, given the amount of accusations she, she has made, Virginia Roberts, who claims she was trafficked by Maxwell and Epstein to have sex with Prince Andrew, was not called to testify. Ian said, I think they realized she would have had a very difficult time under cross examination and that she could have done more damage than help the prosecution's cause. You think, huh? You're a fucking clown, Ian Maxwell. Wow. Guess what? You're going to get your chance here in a little while when she shows up for that victim impact statement. Let's see how gung ho you are on having Virginia sit there and tell her story. It seems the only people that don't believe Virginia at this point are the Maxwell's, the scumbag surrogates that they give interviews to and the, I don't know, five or six people running around on like Twitter that still think that, you know, Maxwell's innocent or whatever. But the reality of the situation is this. Virginia's testimony, what Virginia has said and said on record has been tested. It's been tested in court. Your sister paid out face. Okay? Max Epstein, he paid out face. How did things work out for your boy Prince Andrew? Not so well. Right? So please save all the gaslighting and all the woohain. Nobody buys any of this nonsense. If you are a power, a powerful witness whom you believe is telling the truth and whose combination of the truth and the way they can tell the truth, sincerely, hand on heart, look the jury in the eye and say this happened, you are going to use that person because it's going to be very effective. Notice he doesn't talk about the non prosecution agreement in Florida, right? Convenient that he leaves that out. Another lie of omission. The fact they didn't use her tells us all we already know. They. They couldn't stand. They could not stand her up under cross examination because of the tremendous multiple inconsistencies in her prior accounts on almost every subject for years. That is why I believe they did not run with this particular witness. You're wrong. But you can believe whatever you want. You and Bozo the clown over there can talk about and believe whatever you want, but the facts are the facts. If nobody believes her and she's not a good witness, then why the has everybody paid her so much money? See, you can't get away from the little details here, Kenya. It's easy to get up there and prattle and rattle and talk shit when nobody's challenging you. When you have a friendly journalist who's giving the interview. But what happens when your bullshit is challenged? What happens when people aren't just going to sit back and take what you say as fact? When asked how his sister was coping in jail, Ian admitted the family was concerned for her welfare. He said we all have to be worried about that because she has now been banged up for two years. Oh, two whole years for trafficking children. Big fucking deal. I know people who have done eight or nine for gambling, bro. Zero remorse from me. Not one bit.

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[Ian Maxwell]

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[Ian Maxwell]

She had this terrible rollercoaster of an arrest, then lost 3, 4, 5 bail applications. Consistently turned down for reasons that are wrong because the court doesn't want to find itself on the wrong side of public opinion. No, the court knew that she'd run. The court knew that you and your scumbag buddies have the ways and the means to help her run. That's why she's still in jail. Okay, Stupid. So she has had a really had a dose of it. The way treatment has been dished out in jail has been really shocking. But I know that she remains resolute. She is determined to see this through. She believes in her innocence completely of the charges that she faces. Then why didn't she get on the stand and tell us all that? Why did she sit there meek, cowardly and not willing to look her accusers in the face and sit on that witness stand and say, I did not do this? You want to talk about weak ass witnesses on the stand? Homie, you live in a glass house. How are you going to be out here throwing rocks, talking about Virginia's a weak witness when your sister is the weakest witness in the history of weak witnesses, however unpopular it is and however counter to the prevailing narrative that is about the justice system doing what it should to what it should do and that the basis of why we have appeal courts and it may have to go to the Supreme Court. Regardless of what this court has decided, on the basis of what it has decided, we are confident that on the central point of the appeal, not to mention the other points, that Ghislaine will be successful. She has hope. She has a strong and supportive family. We have hope. We are going to fight. Maxwell is due to be sentenced in June. I mean, wow. All the way to the Supreme Court, huh? Well, that's funny. The Supreme Court wouldn't even hear a word about the non prosecution agreement. You want to talk about people being fired up that the Supreme Court hear Maxwell's case and not the survivors? See, the thing is, folks, people like Elaine Maxwell and her family, they'll always try and set it up like they're being targeted because of their immense wealth. When the reality is this, you. You heard him just cry that she had five bail attempts denied. How many bail attempts did Kalief Browder get? How many bail attempts did insert just about any person in prison right now or jail and ask them how many times they got in front of the judge to ask for bail.

[Bobby Capuchino]

I'm guessing not many of them had five.

[Ian Maxwell]

I'm guessing not many of them had a computer in their cell. I'm guessing not many of them had 14 hours a day with lawyers. So every, every time Maxwell and her team talk about how horrible the conditions were or or are for her in prison, I have to laugh. They make it out like it's Shawshank Redemption for her when in reality she's sitting around by herself. Sure, she's probably lonely and bored, but besides that, there's no one that's gonna hurt her. Nothing like that. Nobody's extorting her. And that's what she's gonna get if she goes to general population. So again, all the stuff this dude's talking about, all the whingeing he's doing, it's all bs. Nothing more than trying to set up a narrative before the appeal. But people are too hip for that. And even the legacy media isn't biting. This dude refuses to go to a real outlet to have a real interview where he's going to be challenged. So we'll just get more dribble from them, more nonsense and certainly more spin. But when everything is said and done and all the checks have been cashed, Ghislaine Maxwell is sitting in prison. And those, well, those are just the facts. All right, everybody that is going to do it, I will be back tomorrow and we'll start all over again. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Cap ucci. The link that we discussed can be found in the description box.

[Bobby Capuchino]

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