Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And His Friends In High Places (7/28/26)

Summary

The Epstein Chronicles – Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And His Friends In High Places (7/28/26)
Host: Bobby Capucci with Co-Host
Episode Date: July 28, 2026

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Episode Overview

This "Mega Edition" dives deep into the origins and maintenance of Jeffrey Epstein’s wealth, the powerful network that shielded and supported him, and the growing revelations around his crimes and powerful associates. Bobby Capucci and his co-host break down how the media and elite circles failed to hold Epstein accountable, even after his convictions, while examining new and historical testimony that untangles the relationships connecting Epstein, his enablers, and his high-profile friends.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Origins of Epstein’s Wealth

• Robert Maxwell's Role
  • The hosts revisit recently resurfaced reports that Robert Maxwell, Ghislaine Maxwell’s disgraced father, secretly bankrolled Jeffrey Epstein.
    • “One of his first and earliest clients was Robert Maxwell. It's something that a lot of people don't talk about, but...more people are starting to pick up on it.” (Co-host, 00:41)
  • Jean Luc Brunel corroborated these claims decades ago, positioning the Maxwell-Epstein connection as foundational to Epstein’s fortune.
    • “Jean Luc Brunel...exposed Robert Maxwell's ties to Epstein in a conversation with friends nearly 20 years ago.” (Co-host, 03:02)
• Money Laundering & Financial Crimes
  • Epstein’s “forte” was moving and hiding dirty money offshore for powerful clients, for which he earned significant fees.
    • “If he was good at anything, it was hiding money offshore and making sure the government couldn't track it. That's what Epstein was good at, nothing else.” (Co-host, 05:54)
  • There’s public perplexity at the lack of forensic investigations into his financial dealings:
    • “Why was there never a team of forensic accountants unleashed on Jeffrey Epstein and his estate?” (Co-host, 07:16)

2. The Maxwell-Epstein Partnership

• Ghislaine Maxwell's Move to New York
  • The hosts challenge the “official narrative” about how Ghislaine met Epstein, instead positing that Robert Maxwell set the stage.
    • “I believe that all of this was put into motion by Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. They were in business together.” (Co-host, 09:44)
• Business and Crime Connections
  • Review of Epstein’s rise through Bear Stearns, founding his own firm with Les Wexner as the major client, and subsequent avoidance of major financial penalties.
    • “He ran into trouble with the SEC and regulators...somehow miraculously able to get away with that.” (Co-host, 10:19)

3. Enablers, Survivors, and Ongoing Cover-Up

• Elite Circles' Complicity
  • The show emphasizes that Epstein’s return to high society after his first conviction was aided by his high-profile connections.
    • “After he got out of jail, Epstein was welcomed back by business leaders, politicians and celebrities. It was as if it had never happened.” (Bobby, 14:54)
  • Strong skepticism about public figures’ denials of knowledge or involvement:
    • "It's very difficult for me to believe that these people had no idea what the hell was going on here, especially considering...it's their job to know." (Bobby, 13:45)
• Testimonies & Court Documents
  • Focus on newly unsealed depositions from Virginia Roberts (Giuffre) and Sarah Ransome, who allege rampant abuse and high-level complicity.
    • “In the end, whether they participated in illicit acts or not, anyone who visited the homes of Jeffrey Epstein...would have to be blind to not spot what he was up to.” (Bobby, 14:27; quoting article)
• Notable Names Implicated
  • [18:44] Roberts names multiple high-profile figures (Les Wexner, Alan Dershowitz, George Mitchell, Bill Richardson) as knowingly involved; the hosts note denials, payouts, and a lack of lawsuits challenging the accusers’ credibility.
  • “All these people that have been credibly accused by Virginia, why haven't they sued if they didn't do it...What are they scared of?” (Bobby, 21:31)

4. The Culture of Silence and Media Inaction

• Media's Negligence
  • “Media didn't care about her or this story. They got way bigger fish to fry, right?...They don't have time to go after human traffickers.” (Co-host, 11:59)
  • The mainstream media’s reluctance to investigate or report thoroughly is a recurring theme, with the hosts providing examples of ignored whistleblowers and survivors.
• Mocking the Elite’s Excuses
  • The hosts refute the standard defense ("I didn't know who he was/what he was doing"), especially after Epstein’s first conviction.
  • “It’s laughable at best when people try that sort of defense...If you can’t even be honest about your relationship with the dude, why should anybody listen to anything else you have to say?” (Bobby, 33:39)

5. New Social Revelations: Epstein’s Post-Conviction Life

• Dining With Power Players
  • Even after his conviction and registration as a sex offender, Epstein maintained social ties with the restaurant elite (Tim & Nina Zagat), celebrities (Woody Allen, David Blaine), and industry titans, further demonstrating the normalization—and rewarding—of his presence in high society.
    • “Epstein repeatedly dined out at ritzy Manhattan restaurants with New York power couple Tim and Nina Zagat years after he was arrested and placed on the sex offender list.” (Bobby, 31:20)
  • Anecdotes suggest high society was uninterested in confronting his past or the rumors swirling around him.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Where Epstein’s Money Came From
  • “Everyone talks about, oh, it's such a mystery where Epstein got his money. Not really.” (Bobby, 01:44)
• On Moving Dirty Money
  • “He just knew how to game the system. And he had people along the way that were willing to help him for financial benefits.” (Co-host, 06:09)
• On Denials from the Accused
  • “All these people that have been credibly accused by Virginia, why haven't they sued if they didn't do it... What are they scared of?” (Bobby, 21:31)
• On the Culture of Silence
  • “It's like a one-legged man in an ass kicking contest. Just not gonna work out well for you.” (Bobby, 30:52)
• On Social Acceptance After Conviction
  • “All of them did. At this point, it’s not who had a relationship with them, it’s who didn’t have a relationship with them.” (Bobby, 32:19)
• On Visiting Epstein’s House
  • “If you walked foot into Jeffrey Epstein's house...you would have had to know what was going on in there. You can call it an assumption, but...you'd have to be blind to not know what was going on.” (Bobby, 29:08; quoting Roberts’s deposition)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:41 – The Maxwell connection to Epstein’s early wealth
• 03:02 – Jean Luc Brunel’s corroboration of Maxwell-Epstein link
• 05:49–08:45 – Epstein’s expertise in money laundering for the elite
• 09:21 – Ghislaine Maxwell and the orchestration of her relationship with Epstein
• 13:36 – Epstein’s continued power post-conviction and elite enablers
• 14:27 – The impossibility of elite visitors' ignorance (quoting accuser testimony)
• 18:44–21:31 – Credible accusations against Wexner, Mitchell, Richardson; lack of defamation suits
• 29:08 – Roberts’s graphic description of clear signs of abuse in Epstein’s homes
• 31:20–34:20 – Epstein’s post-conviction NYC social life (Zagat, Woody Allen, etc.)
• 38:40–40:40 – “No wives” and contradictions in island travel alibis

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Conclusion

The episode paints a damning portrait of epic-scale complicity: the hosts systematically unravel how Epstein amassed and retained wealth through criminal means with high-level help, how he and Ghislaine Maxwell orchestrated their enterprise, how survivors have presented credible testimony against well-known figures, and how the media and influential society either ignored or sanitized his crimes. With sarcasm, detailed analysis, and credulous references to court records and testimonies, the hosts argue that the truth about Epstein’s web goes deeper—and implicates more people—than the public has yet fully absorbed.

For more resources and referenced articles, see the episode’s description box.

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Transcript

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[Bobby Capuchin]

Welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles.

[Podcast Co-host]

One of the ongoing conversations about Jeffrey Epstein and his fortune is where in

[Bobby Capuchin]

the hell did it come from?

[Podcast Co-host]

Well, one of his first and earliest clients was Robert Maxwell. It's something that a lot of people don't talk about, but it has come to the forefront recently, within the last year or so. And more people are starting to pick up on it. Well, not only did the newer sources

[Bobby Capuchin]

talk about it and dish on it all the way back in the day,

[Podcast Co-host]

you had Jean Luc Brunel telling people the same exact thing. And who would have been more well positioned to know about these things than Jean Luc Brunel? So let's check out an article from the Daily Mail back in September of 2020 and let's see exactly what Jean Luc Brunel was talking about. This article was authored by Megan Sheets. Headline, Jeffrey Epstein was secretly bankrolled by Ghislaine Maxwell's disgraced newspaper baron father Robert. Sworn testimony claims. You know, everyone talks about, oh, it's such a mystery where Epstein got his money.

[Bobby Capuchin]

Not really.

[Podcast Co-host]

When you look at it now, it's really not a mystery. Les Wexner stealing from the Tower.

[Bobby Capuchin]

The.

[Podcast Co-host]

The Tower financial scheme. Robert Maxwell, and I'm sure a few of these other smarmy ass scumbags were also on the payroll. Jeffrey Epstein secretly bankrolled by the father of his alleged madam co conspirator, Ghislaine Maxwell. A new report claims the source of the pedophile's massive fortune, which was valued at roughly $636 million after his jail cell, suic allegedly has long been shrouded in mystery. For decades, Epstein ran his own wealth management fund, but his assets have never been made public. And it was known to have served just a handful of ultra rich clients. And you would think that these clients would come out and speak on their relationship with Epstein now that he's dead and everybody knows what Epstein was, but the clients can't, right?

[Bobby Capuchin]

How many of them were involved in,

[Podcast Co-host]

you know, bad deals?

[Bobby Capuchin]

How many of Them were involved in

[Podcast Co-host]

financial malfeasance with Epstein. How many of them were laundering money with Epstein?

[Bobby Capuchin]

I'm sure a lot of them were.

[Podcast Co-host]

The anonymous insider told the sun that famed modeling scout Jean Luc Brunel, a longtime acquaintance of Epstein partner, Rolldog Procure, European version of Maxwell, exposed Robert Maxwell's ties to Epstein in a conversation with friends nearly 20 years ago. So there have been these rumors forever, and we've talked about them forever. How Robert Maxwell bankrolled Epstein way before anyone even knew about it, there were those ties. And when you think about it, it all makes sense, right? Maxwell, the ultimate scammer, looking for somebody to facilitate that scam. Well, why not find yourself another piece of garbage thief in Jeffrey Epstein? And it was a match made in heaven, wasn't it? So you don't think that Robert Maxwell negotiated with Epstein, talked to Epstein, brought

[Bobby Capuchin]

him in the fold, found out that he was an asset as well?

[Podcast Co-host]

Well, we all know that he somehow

[Bobby Capuchin]

got out of being in trouble over

[Podcast Co-host]

at Bears and Stearns over at the, the, the Tower Financial.

[Bobby Capuchin]

So how did he get out of

[Podcast Co-host]

being in trouble for all of that? Obviously it's because he was an asset. So him and Robert Maxwell certainly had that in common as well, didn't they? Robert Maxwell is known as one of Britain's most powerful media magnates and most notorious fraudsters. He spent his business career investing in Israel's economy after losing most of his family during the Holocaust and moving to the UK to build a publishing empire. You know, I never understood stuff like that. If you're going to invest massive amounts of money in a country, why aren't you living in that country as well? Why are you living in England but investing all of that money in Israel? Unless it's of course, to buy favor. And when you're dealing with Maxwell, we know that that's certainly in play. He was a, an information merchant. He worked for several different intelligence agencies. If the rumors are to be believed. And we're not talking about rumors from enemies, we're talking about rumors from people who worked in intelligence themselves. How many times have we heard that Robert Maxwell was working for several different intelligence agencies throughout his life? He died age 68 in suspicious circumstances and after falling off his mega yacht in 1991. After his death, he was revealed to have stolen 500 million pounds, $623 million from the employee pension funds. And a lot of people said that Epstein helped him do that.

[Bobby Capuchin]

A lot of people said that it

[Podcast Co-host]

was Epstein who was helping him funnel this money, helping him Hide this money.

[Bobby Capuchin]

And that was Epstein's forte.

[Podcast Co-host]

If he was good at anything, it was hiding money offshore and making sure that the government could. Couldn't track it. That's what Epstein was good at, Nothing else. He wasn't a science genius, wasn't some great financial wizard. He just knew how to game the system. And he had people along the way that were willing to help him for financial benefits. A former close associate of Brunel who was on the run after being accused of helping Epstein procure underage girls for Epstein. Not on the run anymore. We all know that Jean Luc Brunel is dead now. Told the sun that the Frenchman spoke to friends about Robert Maxwell back in 2002. Jean Luc was telling them how Ghislaine's father, Robert Maxwell, was one of the reasons why Jeffrey Epstein had money, the sources said. So why wouldn't we believe Robert Maxwell talking about this? I mean, to Jean Luc Brunel and Jean Luc Brunel then relaying the message. It all fits. Everything fits with what we've heard. And all this is, is another corroborating witness who says that this is a fact. So when is the gigantic expose coming into all of Epstein's financial misdeeds? Why was there never a team of forensic accountants unleashed on Jeffrey Epstein and his estate? You mean to tell me that there

[Bobby Capuchin]

were no financial crimes committed throughout his whole run?

[Podcast Co-host]

No financial crimes committed with partners in the financial sector? Okay, sure.

[Bobby Capuchin]

He said Maxwell had been one of

[Podcast Co-host]

Epstein's early investment clients. I assume that Maxwell had invested in Epstein, who then used that money to make his own. Jean Luc also started talking about a book featuring Robert Maxwell and wanted to get a hold of a copy straight away. So Epstein, one of his gigs was to hide dirty money, and he would get a fee for that, right? He wasn't doing it for free.

[Bobby Capuchin]

So Robert Maxwell and the rest of

[Podcast Co-host]

these guys that would use his services would give him money, and he'd get a nominal fee right off of the top. Whatever that fee was, I have no idea. I'm guessing it was pretty significant, though.

[Bobby Capuchin]

And then Epstein, on the flip side

[Podcast Co-host]

of that, would use the relationships that he had built with people in Wall street, people in the financial sector, to turn that extra money into grats and other beneficial stock deals that came his way.

[Bobby Capuchin]

And you add all of that up

[Podcast Co-host]

with the malfeasance he was engaged in in the financial sector, and you see how this man made his money. Is it a clear picture where we can go through and look at every transaction? No, but we get an overall, an overall idea of what this dude was

[Bobby Capuchin]

up to and how many pies he

[Podcast Co-host]

had his fingers in.

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[Podcast Co-host]

Robert Maxwell's daughter Ghislaine moved to New York City soon after her dad's death and started dating Epstein. I guess you can call it a coincidence if you want. And there's some people out there that still believe that. Some people that believe they just happened to find each other and circumstances dictated that they ended up a pair. Well, I don't believe any of that.

[Bobby Capuchin]

I believe that all of this was

[Podcast Co-host]

put into motion by Robert Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. They were in business together. Robert Maxwell told them about his daughter. Anything ever happens to him, blah, blah, blah. Hey, look, I got this great plan. You and my daughter can be in on it together. Whatever it was.

[Bobby Capuchin]

I have a very, very hard time

[Podcast Co-host]

believing that Epstein and Maxwell were just strangers in the night, passing in the park and decided to end up in cahoots the way they were in cahoots. How she met Epstein remains unknown. But the Sun's latest report suggests that they could have met through her father. And we've heard that time and time again. And even now in the future, you know, two years later, we've been hearing the same things, heard the same thing in testimony, and we've heard numerous people who were close to the Maxwell's, close to the situation, say the same exact thing. Epstein began making a name for himself in finance after he joined bear Stearns in 1976 and quickly rose through the ranks, jumping from junior assistant to partner in just a few years. He went on to found his own wealth management firm with Victoria's Secret mogul Les Wexner as his largest client. What they don't say is he ran into trouble with the SEC and regulators at Bear Stearns and he was somehow miraculously able to get away with that as well dozens of women who have accused Epstein of raping them at as many properties around the world. Several of the survivors have described Ghislaine as Epstein's chief enabler, recruiting and grooming young girls for abuse and. And as well, helping with the abuse in some cases. Epstein, 66, was facing sex trafficking charges in Manhattan when he killed himself, allegedly awaiting a trial that was set to begin later on. Ghislaine, 58, went on the run after Epstein's suicide and was finally arrested at her compound in New Hampshire in July. Alleged suicide, by the way. And, and according to her, remember, she wasn't on the run. She was hiding from the media who

[Bobby Capuchin]

really care about the story.

[Podcast Co-host]

Media didn't care about her or this story. They got way bigger fish to fry, right? They have to go after their political opponents and shit. They don't have time to go after human traffickers. How dare you even suggest that? What are you, some kind of weirdo? She is accused of enticing underage girls to travel for sexual. Actually having sex with them and Epstein and later lying about it under oath in depositions when she was being sued by Virginia Roberts, one of Epstein's survivors who was abused by Epstein and who says she had sex with Prince Andrew when she was 17. Maxwell pleaded not guilty to the charges against her and is being held at the Metropolitan Detention center in Brooklyn until her trial. Well, we all know those charges she was found guilty of. Jean Luc Brunel. He's now dead. And the story of Jeffrey Epstein and Robert Maxwell being such good friends, associates, and the Maxwell being the person who introduced Epstein and Maxwell Galain, well, that story and those rumors persist and they're not going away anytime soon.

[Bobby Capuchin]

If you'd like to contact me, you

[Podcast Co-host]

can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter at B O bby Capucci. The link that we discussed can be found in the description box.

[Bobby Capuchin]

What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One of the key elements of Jeffrey Epstein's human trafficking ring was the fact that he had so much wealth and so much influence. This is a man who had an extreme amount of power. And that power basically all originated from the contacts that he had with elected officials, business magnates, and other people in positions of power. And all of these people that were hanging around him were all these people that were going to his house, going to the island, going to New Mexico. All of them will have you believe that they had no idea what was going on. And it's very difficult to prove otherwise. Right. You can't sit here and say, oh, well, I know for sure so and so knew what was going on. But when you look at the overall situation and you look at all of the information that has been coming out for years and years and years, it's very difficult for me to believe that these people had no idea what the hell was going on here. Especially considering these people that we're talking about, a lot of them, it's their job to know. So when people talk about, oh, well, so and so wasn't involved in the abuse. Well, that's true. We have no evidence that Bill Clinton or Donald Trump or anyone like that was taking part in the abuse. But what we do know is, is that all of these dudes were along for the ride and all of them were benefiting from their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein one way or the other. And guess who is picking up the tab. Like usual, it's the survivors. Today's article is from the Miami Herald and the headline, epstein Accusers say Financier Flaunted His Depravity and VIP Visitors had to be aware. This article was authored by Julie K. Brown. In the end, whether they participated in illicit acts or not, anyone who visited the homes of Jeffrey Epstein, hung out at his pool, or spent time in his presence would have to be blind to not spot what he was up to, according to two victims of the late sex trafficker. And that's spot on. Look, I don't understand how anyone could be around this dude going to his house, partying, whatever, and not be none the wiser. And anyone telling me that they don't know what's going on, I have my doubts. Virginia Roberts and Sarah Ransom made their observations in anguish. Sworn testimony in the course of litigation that swirled around Epstein in his final years before his suicide, allegedly in prison years earlier, he had pleaded guilty in a Palm beach court to sex with an underage girl. After he got out of jail, Epstein was welcomed back by business leaders, politicians and. And celebrities. It was as if it had never happened. Well, that's what they hoped, right? They hoped that people would just forget about what happened, that people would be like, oh, he was just soliciting a minor. No big deal here. But the reality is it was a big deal. It is a big deal, and it's always going to be a big deal. A guy like Jeffrey Epstein should have never, ever been able to do what he did. And the only way that you're able to do this is if you're being protected by people who, who have a lot of power. And we already know that that's the case. The women, in their testimony unsealed on Tuesday, said he flaunted his attraction to young women and girls, some of them underage. The allegation is significant because so many famous people, from Donald Trump to Bill Clinton, were attracted to Epstein's orbit, flying on his plane, as in the case of Clinton, or as in Trump's case, Florida, partying with him at Mar a Lago, a scene captured on video. And there's no denying it. I know there's people out there that still want to act like Donald Trump wasn't buddies with Epstein back in the day. He was. But at the same time, we have to realize that there's levels to this. Clinton has denied anything improper happened while he was with Epstein, and a spokesman for Trump told Newsweek any allegations of wrongdoing are simply false and have no merit. You see, that's the rub here, right? Everybody wants to talk about wrongdoing, wrongdoing, wrongdoing. And I agree. But even when people are named directly as participating in the abuse, nobody has anything to say about that. Where's all the furor over Glenn Dubin or over George Mitchell or over Bill Richardson or over insert person here? Those are all names that have already been mentioned as credibly accused of. Of partaking in the sexual abuse. But for some people, that's not salacious enough. They have to add everybody else, you know, they have to add people that aren't even involved even remotely. And then what happens is the waters get even muddier, and it's very difficult at that point to try and swim to clarity, because once some bullshit gets out there and, you know, goes viral or whatever, forget it. The documents released on Tuesday are from a formally sealed defamation case litigated years ago. As is often the case with Epstein, they included salacious but largely unproven allegations by women who have lived traumatic lives made more difficult by their involvement with Epstein. See, here's where I differ from a lot of people. And any of these women who received a payout from the estate, that means the estate accepted liability for their abuse by Epstein. So it's not alleged anymore. Once that happens and that payout occurs, there are now victims of Jeffrey Epstein who have turned into survivors. No more alleged, right? Now, again, if you're talking about Prince Andrew or you're talking about unconfirmed reports, then, yeah, it's alleged. All we have to go on is Virginia's word against Prince Andrew's. Now, obviously, you all know where I fall when it comes to who I believe, but nothing has been proven against Prince Andrew, just to be clear, but those allegations are credible, and those allegations need to be investigated.

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[Bobby Capuchin]

Allegations have circulated for years about famous people having sex with women or girls. Procured by Epstein or his staff, the allegations have universally been denied. With the exception of a photo of Robert standing with Prince Andrew, scant telltale evidence has been presented. Well, enough evidence has been presented that this dude paid out over $125 million from his estate. Seems to me that some evidence was presented. No. Among the latest court documentation, Roberts, in a sworn deposition, insisted that both Bill Clinton and Les Wexner, who associated with multi millionaire, knew that Jeffrey Epstein was having sex with underage girls of Wexner, the billionaire owner of Victoria's secretary. Roberts said he did things that were wrong. He participated in sex with minors. A spokesman for Wexner denied he has ever met Roberts and said Wexner was never involved in any of the abhorrent behavior engaged in by Epstein. So here's the real question. All these people that have been credibly accused by Virginia, why haven't they sued if they didn't do it and they're being unfairly called out onto the carpet for something they didn't do, something as heinous as sexual assault. You'd think they'd want to challenge it, right? None of these people have done it. What are they scared of? I know if somebody came out and said that I did that, and they didn't have any evidence to back it up, especially, you better believe I'm going to come out swinging. And if I have millions of dollars in the bank, billions of dollars in the bank, yeah, it's going to be Bobby Axelrod time. But these guys don't do it, right. They all run from it, avoid it. And when you do that, more questions arise. In the same deposition, Roberts claimed that she was forced to have sex more than once with former Senator George Mitchell and Bill Richardson, a former governor of New Mexico. Both denied that, and Richardson is now deceased. So George Mitchell and Bill Richardson, two of the heaviest Hitters in the Democratic Party in the last, what, 30, 40 years. Both of those dudes tied to Epstein and credibly accused. So why did it take all this time for people to come out and talk about what's happening? And furthermore, why did it take Alex Acosta being appointed as Labor Secretary to get Julie K. Brown involved? Shouldn't this story have been told a long time ago? And it would have been told a long time ago, by the way, if everybody would have just listened to what Maria was telling them. She went to the FBI and told the FBI what was up. Her and Annie both ignored. So I don't want to hear this. Oh, nobody knew what was going on. BS Roberts swore she was trafficked to a well known prime minister whom she refused to name because she feared it would put her life in danger. Roberts also testified about a number of women who were involved in having sex with her and others for Epstein's entertainment. The documents are from a 2015 defamation lawsuit, but brought by Roberts against Ghislaine Maxwell, Epstein's longtime lover and recruiter of girls and young women such as Roberts, when she first met the pair as a teen. The case was resolved out of court in 2017 with Maxwell paying Roberts a multi million dollar settlement. Most of the documents, however, were sealed at that time. The Miami Herald, whose series Perversion of Justice led to Epstein's rearrest in 2019 when which was followed by his death behind bars, sued successfully to unseal the case. And the documents have been released on a rolling basis over the past five days. More than that, they've been coming out for years now, but the last batch obviously has been released over the last few days. The never before released Roberts deposition was actually part of an unrelated legal fight between famed lawyer Alan Dershowitz, who represented Epstein and was a house guest at his Palm beach estate, and two attorneys who represented Epstein victims Dershowitz and the lawyers Bradley Edwards and Paul Cassel filed dueling lawsuits in 2015 over Roberts allegations against Dershowitz. Roberts accused Dershowitz in an affidavit of having sex with her. Dershowitz denied all of Roberts accusations, which she later partially recanted and her sworn affidavit was removed from from the court record. So that really threw things into chaos. Right? When you retract a statement like that, people are going to start questioning what you have to say. But there's a lot more to it in my opinion. Obviously that's just speculation. I'm not positive. I haven't talked to Virginia. I don't know what's going on personally. Right. But when you've been litigating all these years, what more is there to prove? Especially considering nobody's in line to go to prison? So I think there was a little bit of the whole hesitancy because of a protracted legal battle with Dershowitz that led to Virginia just saying, you know what? Let's just settle this and be done with it. Again, just my speculation. Also on Seal Tuesday was Sarah Ransom's deposition. And we're making our way through that deposition right now, and it's another big one, like Virginia's and Ghislaine Maxwell's. So we're going to make our way through it like we did the other ones, but one bite at a time. But I think it's important for those documents to be part of the catalog so you can go and get an unfiltered view or an unfiltered listen at what happened. Among other things, Ransom's February 17, 2018 sworn testimony provides a graphic description of a sexual encounter she said she had with Dershowitz and another Epstein survivor, Nadia Marcinkova, in Epstein's New York mansion, as well as what she said was a detailed description of Dershowitz physical characteristics. Dershowitz said that he had never met Ransom. Nothing she says should be believed. Dershowitz told the Herald. Well, since Alan Dershowitz told us that, I mean, I guess we should just all pack it up, pack it in, boys and girls. Everything's all good here. There's no issues. Everything's on the up and up. Jeffrey Epstein, he never did anything wrong, and he's being unfairly persecuted. That's basically what Dershowitz is saying. Dershowitz had repeatedly called for all the documents from the case to be unsealed, saying that they would vindicate him. He said he is very happy with the totality of these disclosures. Dershowitz and Epstein were friends for years. The Harvard law professor said he now regrets ever meeting Epstein and that their friendship ended when he took him on as a client. Oh, I'm sure it did. I'm sure that that's when everything came to a screeching halt. These people truly believe we're all stupid. That's what they believe. Unfortunately for them, the joke is on them. We're onto their bullshit and their stupid ass gaslighting, their dumbass excuses and all the nonsense. That ship is sailed. Now it's time for accountability. Dershowitz and Roberts filed lawsuits against each other, and they were settled in 2022. At that time. Roberts admitted that that she may have been mistaken when she cited Dershowitz as someone who sexually abused her. Tom Davies, a spokesman for Wexner, pointed to a 2020 court document where his client issued a statement denying it. Robert's allegations. Mr. Wexner was unaware of and was never a participant in any of the abhorrent behavior engaged in by Epstein against Epstein's victims. That Mr. Wexner had never met Ms. Roberts and that any claims to the contrary are not true. The same thing he said about Maria Farmer and the fact that Maria Farmer was held against her will at the Albany mansion of Jeffrey Epstein. Wexner came out and said the same bs, right? I have no idea. I've never seen any of these people. I have no idea who Jeffrey Epstein is. And the saddest part about that is that the stooges in the legacy media, they just accept that BS and run with it. Oh, yeah, Wexner says he had nothing

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So obviously Wexner had nothing to do with it. Meanwhile, these women have all kinds of evidence, all kinds of receipts. But what does that matter if Mr. Moneybags is telling you that he never did it? Roberts also described dinner parties attended by academics and luminaries, including Bill Clinton and Alan Tipper Gore. She said she was particularly moved by seeing how Gore doted over his wife during the dinner, noting, I thought he was a wonderful guy who loved his wife. He's just somebody that loves his wife that much. They later divorced. A spokesman for Gore said the former Vice president has no recollection of ever meeting Epstein. Notice he didn't deny it, right? I have no recollection. That's lawyer speak for avoiding a trap. Clinton has denied he knew Epstein was sexually abusing anyone and also says he was never on Epstein's island. Her most detailed answers were the questions about Dershowitz, whom she claimed she was forced to have sex with six times. After being directed to describe one of the encounters in detail, she excused herself and vomited outside the room. According to the deposition, she emphasized that almost anyone who visited Epstein's homes should have known what he was doing. I would say the first time they came to that property, there is nude pictures everywhere. Robert said they are salacious acts of girls, young girls doing things to each other that would be considered child pornography. If you walked foot into Jeffrey Epstein's house and you went in there and you continued to be an acquaintance of his, then you would have had to know what was going on in there. You can call it an assumption, but Like I said, you'd have to be blind to not know what was going on. And I agree with that. There was just too many signs here for people to run that BS that they had no idea what was going on. I had no idea what old Jeffrey was up to. Sorry, I don't buy it.

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For all that is illuminated in the documents unsealed over the past week, many secrets remain. The documents include the full transcript of Epstein's September 9, 2016 deposition in which he invoked his Fifth Amendment rights 1,000 times, refusing to respond. Three names are redacted from a series of questions in which Epstein asked whether he sent Roberts to have sex with his powerful friends. At least one man's name remained redacted. In emails released Monday, Ransom referenced an email which was exchanged between name redacted using his codename. Redacted via sugardaddy.com I have other correspondence which I had with him and my storage box in England. In the same batch of emails, the name of someone Ransom said tried to rape her with his friend when we were at anchor on his boat in Miami remained redacted. In documents released on January 3, the names of two to three people subpoenaed for depositions were revealed. They were police officers, but a third name remained redacted in a witness list released on January 4. Redactions also covered the nine names of people who may have or do have information about Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking conduct. One person who was present on the flights with Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Roberts, and may have knowledge of the trafficking also was kept secret in the January 4th release and in an excerpt of a different Roberts deposition released last week. She has asked when Ghislaine Maxwell direct you to go have sex with followed by a name, and that was redacted. So there's no doubt. People who were going to this island, people who were hanging out on this island, people who were partying with Epstein, people who were around them all the time, they all knew what was up? Obviously very difficult to prove that, but the people who were with him after he was arrested, they really have no defense, right? They have no leg to stand on. It's like a one legged man in the an ass kicking contest. Just not gonna work out well for you, the people before he was arrested. Alright, you can say, look, I don't believe you, but I can't prove it. And that's pretty much where I'm at with all these people because from all of the accounts we've heard, from everything we know about Jeffrey Epstein's properties, I find it very, very hard to believe that the so called smartest men and women in the room had no idea what sort of monster they were breaking bread with. All right everybody that's gonna do it for this one. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box. What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Jeffrey Epstein was a man about town and there wasn't a single part of New York high society where he wasn't invited, whether it was hair salons or clothing stores or or restaurants. Today we have an article from the Daily Mail talking about Jeffrey Epstein and his time hanging out with people like Tim and Nina Zagat and at some of the other high end restaurants in New York. Headline, Jeffrey Epstein ate like a sixth grader when he dined at top NYC restaurants with foodie power couple Tim and Nina Zagat after he was listed as a sex offender. And there is no excuse that any of these people can give me that's worth listening to when it comes to their time with Epstein, especially after he was already convicted. How many times do we have to hear that nonsense? Oh, I didn't know who he was, I didn't know what he was doing. I had no idea that he was raping kids. This article was authored by Will Potter. Jeffrey Epstein repeatedly dined out at ritzy Manhattan restaurants with New York power couple Tim and Nina Zagat years after he was arrested and placed on the sex offender list. A bombshell report claims following his 2008 arrest on state charges, the pedophile financier quickly returned to his life of luxury after his time behind bars. Continuing the party was with an array of billionaires, heads of state and industry titans. Just like I've told you for how long. And not only that, but we've provided receipts the whole entire way. All of this stuff has been talked about ad nauseum for years and now it's finally being exposed a little bit and people in the general public are getting a little bit of a look behind the curtains when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and and the halls of power where he was traversing. According to a report by the Daily Beast, Epstein and Tim Zagat were closely tied in the years after his arrest where they would allegedly enjoy meals out with famous faces, including Hollywood director Woody Allen. And at this point, I'd be shocked to hear that any of these people in the so called elite circles of NYC didn't have relationships with Epstein, because all of them did. At this point, it's not who had a relationship with them, it's who didn't have a relationship with them. From Woody Allen to politicians to business titans, they were all eating out of the palm of Jeffrey Epstein and spending time with his ass after he was convicted. And none of them have any explanation for it. What they'll say is that, oh well, I didn't really know him that well. I didn't know what he was up to. I had no idea he was convicted. As if they don't have access to Google, as if they didn't have access to the news. So it's laughable at best when people try that sort of defense of their relationship with Epstein. And I can't take anyone who says that seriously and just think that whatever they say after that is a lie as well. Because if you can't even be honest about your relationship with the dude, why should anybody listen to anything else you have to say? Despite his reputation for opulence, those that knew Epstein also allege that he never enjoyed meals out at expensive restaurants because he ate like a sixth grader. And we've heard that from survivors as well. So that certainly sounds like one of those rumors that has some legs. The report into the decade between Epstein's 2008 Florida arrest and his death by suicide in 2019 revealed his sphere of influence continued to grow despite disturbing charges that had been levied against him. And that's the real disgusting part here. It's not like people had no idea. This wasn't a secret. This wasn't something that was kept private. Everybody knew what this guy got nailed for. Everybody knew his proclivities. And they all knew that even after he got nailed as a sex offender, he was still showing up with a bunch of young girls. Now, these people will say that those girls were all of age, and I had no idea that any of these girls were younger than 18. And there's no way that we can prove that they didn't know that. But what does logic tell you? What does your gut tell you? Tim and Nina Zagat, who rose to fame after creating the fine dining guide, reportedly ran in the same high rolling circles as EPSTEIN and in 2014 attended at least one dinner organized by the sex trafficker. I wonder if Reid Hoffman was there. You know, the guy that just hosted the fundraiser that Joe Biden went to. Anyone gonna have any questions about that or. Nah, we'll just let it slide because you know, all of our faves and all, if you haven't noticed yet, there's no consistency we when it comes to reporting on the people that were palling around with Epstein. And while the legacy media controlled the narrative surrounding this story, they were able to get away with that. But not anymore. Way too many people are hip to what's going on and way too many people understand the scope of what went on here and just how bad the lies have been when it comes to the legacy media covering for these scumbags that were palling around with Epstein. The dinner also allegedly included around a dozen others, including Epstein's girlfriend, Corinna Schuliac, magician David Blaine, and Hollywood director Woody Allen. The exclusive guest list was obtained by the Daily Beast through a public records request. The origin of the Zagat and Epstein friendship is unclear. However, they knew each other since at least 2002 when they traveled on Epstein's private jet to the TED conference. But he didn't really know Epstein. He was just hitching a ride because that's what people do. They hitch rides on other mega billionaires planes. You know, they just pop up randomly and they're like, hey, can I get a ride with you? At least that's what they'll have you believe in reality. We all know that they're all friends and I'm sure that there was more than one adventure on this plane for the Zagat and Jeffrey Epstein. And according to the report, Epstein and Zagat repeatedly rubbed shoulders after the financier pedophile was arrested in 2008. That year, Epstein pleaded guilty to state prostitution and underage prostitution charges and spent over a year in Florida prison. No, he didn't. He spent his time in a stockade where he was out for about 14 hours a day. Prison is where you and I end up and the stockade is where people like Jeffrey Epstein end up. A highly criticized plea agreement saw US Attorneys decline to federally prosecute him for over a decade. The two reportedly became closely entwined in the years since. And emails have revealed how Epstein continued to enjoy a well connected lifestyle after falling afoul of the law. In one email exchange, Epstein and Zagat planned to treat the Sultan to a dinner in New York, who was allegedly Sultan Ahmed bin Sulium. Suleim's name was also reportedly used by Epstein to purchase his private island, the infamous hub of his depraved sex trafficking empire. It's actually the bigger island that he used this guy's name for. Not little St. James, but greater St. James. And that move was another questionable move on the part of the U. S. Virgin Islands, by the way. When reached by the Daily Beast for comment, Zagat reportedly described Epstein as radioactive, but declined to comment on their meetings. Of course not. Why is he going to give us any sort of context? Then he'll open himself up to all kinds of other questions. So what he's going to do is clam up and not say a word like the rest of these dirtbags. The group dinner was reportedly at Restaurante Morini, a now closed Italian restaurant on Madison Avenue. Comedian Bobby Slayton, who also attended the event, told the Daily Beast that despite his fine dining lifestyle, Epstein was not a fan of going out to dinner. Once he said, you and Tim always talk about food. What is it with you guys and food? He said that about a few people. He didn't understand why people like to eat good food. Slayton said, I could never get him to go out. He had me over to his house a few times for dinner, which with a bunch of comedians. When I asked him about restaurants one time, he goes, call Zagat. He knows about food. What do I know? And for those of you who are not familiar with Bobby Slayton, he's considered the pit bull of comedy. That's what he calls himself, has a very crude stand up routine and isn't scared to touch on topics that are considered to be out of bounds. He also picks on the crowd at his shows as well. He claimed that Epstein would eat like a sixth grader and would habitually survive off just burgers and peanut butter and jelly sand sandwiches while his guests enjoyed lavish meals. Every time I would go to his house, all he would talk to me about was comedy, Slayton added. He would never talk about girls. I never saw any of the girls. Of course not. Nobody ever saw any of the girls. Not the comedians, not the politicians, nobody. In a telling moment, he says that Epstein showed him his private island. But when he suggested bringing his wife for a visit, Epstein turned to him and responded, no wives. Well, that doesn't track. I thought all those other dudes brought their wives with them to the island. Isn't that what Dershowitz said, isn't that what all these other dudes said? Oh, my wife was with me. How could have I ever done something like that if my wife was around? Well, according to Bobby Slayton, there was a no wives policy on the island. So which is it? Were the wives allowed? Or are all of these people that are being used as alibis for each other and being pointed to as character witnesses? Could it be that they're all lying to us and their wives weren't with them? Or is Bobby Slayton lying to us about Jeffrey Epstein, saying that there's a no wives policy on the island? Either way, I don't care if you're there with your wife or Jesus Christ himself, you shouldn't be on that island. And if you are on that island, you have some explaining to do. All right, folks, that's going to do

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it for this one.

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