Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And His Time Spent In The Custody Of State/Feds (5/4/26)

Summary

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Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And His Time Spent In The Custody Of State/Feds

Podcast: The Epstein Chronicles
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: May 5, 2026
Episode Focus:
A deep dive into Jeffrey Epstein’s incarceration, revealing the cast of powerful visitors, rampant legal and institutional failures, and continued obfuscation by authorities and the media.

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Episode Overview

Bobby Capucci dissects the details of Jeffrey Epstein’s 2008–2009 jail sentence in Palm Beach County, exposing a parade of powerful lawyers, socialites, and alleged co-conspirators who visited Epstein. The conversation weaves through political connections, especially those of Bill Clinton and Donald Trump, points out glaring media double standards, and questions the integrity of federal prison operations surrounding Epstein’s death. The tone is impassioned and critical, with a relentless call for transparency and justice.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. Epstein’s Jail Visitor Logs

Timestamps: [01:00]–[07:00]

• Epstein received visits from Alan Dershowitz, Arnold Paul Prosperi (friend of Bill Clinton), and two alleged female co-conspirators while serving his "sweetheart deal" sentence.
• Capucci is incredulous at the frequency and timing of these visits, especially Dershowitz’s New Year’s Day appearance.
• Prosperi visited at least 20 times and had a direct link to Clinton, including running Clinton’s student campaign at Georgetown.

“Now why would Dershowitz be showing up there on New Year’s Day? That makes sense. ... Did he show up for all of his clients on New Year's Day? Or was it only for his good pal Jeffrey Epstein?”
— Bobby Capucci [01:34]

2. The Rot in “Polite Society”

Timestamps: [02:52]–[05:27]

• Sharp criticism of New York’s social elite for welcoming Epstein post-conviction and ignoring abuse allegations.
• Wealth and generational fortune, not justice, drive who gets included in "polite society."
• References to George R.R. Martin: “When the kings and queens play their games... it’s us who suffer.”

“They truly believe they are our aristocracy…They don’t look at us as citizens.”
— Bobby Capucci [05:10]

3. Political Connections and Double Standards

Timestamps: [05:27]–[12:10]

• Both Bill Clinton and Donald Trump had personal and financial ties to Epstein.
• The media’s scrutiny of Clinton pales compared to UK media coverage of Prince Andrew.
• Capucci argues federal and state institutions have shown little interest in fully investigating the Clintons’ and Trump’s ties.

“How is Clinton escaping so much scrutiny in this cl... in this case? I just don’t understand.”
— Bobby Capucci [07:21]

• Points out the hypocrisy of the Clinton foundation and others taking Epstein’s “ill-gotten gains.”

4. Lack of Accountability for Co-Conspirators

Timestamps: [18:50]–[21:00]

• Sarah Kellen and Nadia Marcinkova made over 70 visits to Epstein in jail; neither has ever been charged, despite ample evidence.
• Capucci criticizes the non-prosecution agreement that shielded Epstein’s aides.
• Notes Epstein’s 13-month sentence included at least 340 visits from friends, lawyers, and associates.
• Story Cowles, Epstein’s assistant, visited 130 times under the guise of being a “paralegal.”

“What could they possibly have to talk about? …Isn’t it a thumb in the eye to the survivors to know that his co-conspirators were able to keep coming to jail?”
— Bobby Capucci [19:24]

5. Institutional Failures Surrounding Epstein’s Death

Timestamps: [30:15]–[47:28]

• Daily News report: Epstein’s body was moved after his death at MCC Manhattan, blatantly violating federal protocols.
• Capucci stresses this isn’t standard practice (“No crap. You don’t move a dead body until the investigation has been taken place.” [38:08]).
• Only two guards faced charges for “falling asleep;” broader negligence and protocol violations went unpunished.
• Capucci is highly skeptical of the official suicide verdict, citing evidence of an earlier time of death and manipulation of the scene before investigators arrived.
• Notes Epstein had access to suspicious items (extension cord, extra sheets).

“You do not move a body…especially in a situation like this with a man like Jeffrey Epstein. You make sure everything is buttoned up. It is just unconscionable that it was that big of a failure.”
— Bobby Capucci [46:38]

6. The Continuing Blackmail & Cover-Up Angle

Timestamps: [35:28]–[47:10]

• Mainstream media and government long dismissed blackmail theories—now, even legacy outlets address it.
• Suggests media only reports what is sanctioned by intelligence “buddies.”

“It’s a symbiotic relationship. ... They're both parasites living off of each other.”
— Bobby Capucci [35:38]

• Calls for hope that a “maverick agent” within the FBI will push through real accountability.

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Notable Quotes

• On Polite Society’s Hypocrisy:
  “They put on a good face...when the chips are down...all of a sudden it's run for the hills and leave all the poor people to fend for themselves.”
  — Bobby Capucci [03:25]

• On Bil Clinton’s Political Survival:
  “If Clinton ever gets caught up in this, it’s going to be because of good police work. He’s not going to step in it like Prince Andrew.”
  — Bobby Capucci [16:51]

• On Institutional Failure:
  “You move his body? It's a crime scene, for God's sakes...that, my friends, is what you call BS.”
  — Bobby Capucci [41:00]

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Timeline of Key Segments

| Timestamp | Topic | |:-------------:|:------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------| | 01:00–07:00 | Visitor logs: Dershowitz, Prosperi, and ties to Clinton | | 07:00–12:10 | Media double standards: Scrutiny of Prince Andrew vs. Bill Clinton | | 12:43–16:29 | 1995 Clinton/Epstein/Prosperi dinner, Epstein's network | | 18:50–21:00 | Over 70 jail visits by Kellen & Marcinkova, shielding by non-prosecution agreements | | 27:20–29:51 | Frustration with lack of action from DOJ, Berman, Barr | | 30:15–33:55 | Procedural violations in handling Epstein’s body, notes about cell contents | | 35:30–46:38 | Blackmail operation and lack of trust in official investigations | | 46:38–47:28 | Comparing MCC’s competence (Gotti, El Chapo) to failures with Epstein |

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Closing Sentiments

Bobby Capucci urges listeners not to accept the official narratives, to continue demanding transparency, and to hold every individual involved in Epstein’s criminal ring and subsequent cover-ups accountable—no matter how high up the power chain.

“If you think this is going away...you are sorely mistaken because this will not be wiped under the rug.”
— Bobby Capucci [29:30]

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For More or to Get Involved

Contact Bobby Capucci at [e-mail] or on Twitter @BobbyCapucci.

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This episode is essential listening for anyone seeking a raw, unfiltered examination of the many failings—and ongoing mysteries—surrounding Epstein’s incarceration and the powerful network that protected him.

Transcript

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[Bobby Capucci]

so this article, like I said, is from CNBC and the headline is Jeffrey Epstein Jail Logs Accused Child Sex Predator Met with Alan Dershowitz, Bill Clinton's Friend and alleged co conspirators a decade ago Published Friday, July 12, 2019 the article was written by Brian Schwartz and Dan Mangan. Wealthy financier, pedophile and accused child sex abuser Jeffrey Epstein had a revolving cast of characters take turns visiting him in a Palm Beach County, Florida jail while serving a 13 month criminal sentence in 2008 and 2009, according to visitor logs reviewed by CNBC on Friday. Those visitors included Epstein's appeal attorney Alan Dershowitz, who showed up on New Year's Day 2009, as well as Arnold Paul Prosperi, a college friend of former President Bill Clinton. Document show Other visitors were two women who have been alleged to have been co conspirators of Epstein. Now why would Dershowitz be showing up there on New Year's Day? That makes sense. You just he shows up for all of his clients. Did he show up for all of his clients on New Year's Day? Or was it only for his good pal Jeffrey Epstein? And don't even get me started on Paul Prosperi. Paul Prosperi was a dirtbag, a guy that was pardoned, basically, I guess pardoned. Or his sentence was communed, whatever, either way, by Bill Clinton on Bill Clinton's last day in office. I mean, this is a guy that I've been aware of for a very long time and I knew that he was he, you know, friendly with Jeffrey Epstein. But I, you know the, the circle

[Podcast Co-host]

is so small, folks.

[Bobby Capucci]

Right when you start looking at all of this, all of these people are connected. All of these people know each other. And it just goes to show you that this so called polite New York society is anything but. It, it, it disgusts me, honestly, the way that they conduct themselves. We heard in a article we read a while back, I believe it was in the New Yorker, from a socialite who is part of that so called polite society. And according to that socialite, it doesn't matter what you do, if you have enough money, you can buy your way

[Podcast Co-host]

back into polite society.

[Bobby Capucci]

And that's how they roll. They don't care. I mean, what do they care about any of our children or about the way we live, or if we starve to death or whatever it may be? The polite society doesn't care. Oh, they'll let on like they care. And they'll scream from their ivory towers and talk about, oh, how dare you not help your fellow man. Meanwhile, when the shit goes south like it is in New York right now, they all run away to Montauk into the Hamptons so they can hide. And that's typical behavior for these cowards. All they, they, you know, they like to put on a good face, they like to put on a front. And then when the chips are down and when they're really need, they, they need to live by what they preach and they need to stand behind their virtue signaling. Well, all of a sudden they can't do that. All of a sudden it's run for the hills and leave all of the poor people to fend for themselves. It's that they're just the hip. The hypocrisy from so called polite society in New York is, it's obvious, okay? You just see it over and over and over again. And this last instance of them running away up to Montauk and the Hamptons is just another example. We saw the worst of the worst when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, though. The way that they all look the other way. The way they were all willing to welcome him back into polite society after they all knew what he done and what he was up to. And it all comes down to money and power for these people. Consolidation of power and building even more wealth. I'm not talking about, you know, a couple of million. I'm talking about generational wealth. That's what they're all looking to build. And every single one of them is jockeying within their circle. And the rest of us, well, like they say in George R.R. martin's books. It's us who suffer. We when the kings and queens play their games, their game of thrones. And that's what we see from these people. They truly believe that there are aristocracy. They truly believe that there are lords and our ladies to rule over us as they wish. And, you know, you have to ask yourself, do you want to be a citizen or a subject? And they certainly don't look at us as citizens.

[Podcast Co-host]

They look at.

[Bobby Capucci]

Look at us as subjects. And you see the way it is. You just see how it is. These people that are like Dershowitz and this Paul Prosperity character, oh, they don't have any, they don't have any qualms about going to visit Epstein. They don't care what you were you or I think because they're buddies in high society. Well, they'll just welcome them right back into the club. Epstein's also a former friend of President Donald Trump's. Epstein, also a former friend of President Donald Trump's, pleaded guilty in 2008 to a Florida state charge of procuring an underage prostitute. No such thing. I hate when I always have to say it, but every time one of these articles pumps that out, I'm going to mention it. A child cannot be a prostitute. He now is charged by federal prosecutors in New York with sexually abusing dozens of underage girls from 2002 through 2005 at his Manhattan townhouse and Palm beach mansion. And it's funny that none of the, that the Zorro Ranch wasn't mentioned in there, right? It wasn't mentioned in the complaint, not in this article. And neither is the Virgin Islands mentioned in this article. And I know for a fact 100% that abuse took place in both places. Right in, in Santa Fe Zorro Ranch. I, you know, I talked to my own sources down there who, you know, told me what, what the deal was going on. And we've also heard from numerous other people as well as the. Who were abused there. So I always, it's one of those things that just is up there with, you know, how the universe was created. You know, what comes first, the chicken before the egg. And that question is, that question is, why hasn't the Zorro Ranch been raided? It's one of those cosmic questions that nobody has an answer to, I guess, you know, where's Atlantis? Was there really a minotaur on Crete? You know, I have questions and nobody seems to have answers. Among his most frequent visitors in jail was Prosperi, who had become friends with Clinton when they attended Georgetown University together, where he ran Clinton's campaign for student body president. Records show that Prosperity visited EPSTEIN at least 20 times. You know, it's funny to me that Clinton, the Clintons have such close ties to Jeffrey Epstein. I am talking very, very close ties. Big time money bundler for them was very close to a lot of people who were big time Clinton allies and operatives. We're talking Doug Band, Paul Prosperi, et cetera, et cetera. You know, this is something that should get more scrutiny. This is something that should be a story that the media is running with the same way we see the English media running with the Andrew story. And somehow this story has not found its legs here in America. Somehow people have not really sunk their teeth into this and went after it was. We know that Clinton lied about being at the Zorro ranch. We know that. We've heard from several sources and I had someone confirm that to me personally. So we know that he was at that ranch. We know that he was at in the Virgin Islands. We know all of this. And now I'm not saying he was involved in abusing anybody. No girls have come forward and said that. But what I am saying is he has a pattern of lying and they certainly have financial ties with Jeffrey Epstein. And, and where did that money come from? Did that money that Jeffrey Epstein pumped into the Clinton foundation or the Clinton Global Initiative, was that money made through ill gotten gains? And if so, that would make both of those organizations who received money from him part of this criminal conspiracy, at least under RICO laws. So how is Clinton escaping so much scrutiny in this cl. In this case? I just don't understand. You would think that the media would be all over this, that people with big resources would be trying to bust this case wide open and, and see what Clinton's involvement truly was. Because if we're demanding that Prince Andrew be subpoenaed and testify, well, I think that Bill Clinton should definitely have to testify in this case too and everybody else brought up in court documents, including Trump. But to think that Bill Clinton isn't getting any pub in this and to think that people are leaving him out of this story and focusing on, you know, other aspects of it like Andrew, which is definitely super important by the way. I'm, I approve of that 100%, 1,000% and believe that even more scrutiny is necessary. What I'm trying to say though is you see the scrutiny that's going on with Andrew and in America, you don't see any of that with Bill Clinton. And I think it's a travesty I think that Bill Clinton should definitely be under the microscope in this case. An attorney who later raised funds for Clinton, Prosperity had his own criminal sentencing for filing false tax tax returns commuted to house arrest on Clinton's last day of office in the White House in 2001. Again, very close ties with Bill Clinton and Paul Prosperi. And Paul Prosperi, in return, visited Epstein 20 times while he was in prison. Now, I'm sure that Prosperity was passing messages back and forth for Jeffrey and Bill. We know that they were close friends. There's no denying that. There's no way to sugarcoat that. Just wait. Just like there's no way to sugarcoat that Trump and Epstein were rolling together in the early 90s. At the very least, there's zero way to sugarcoat that anyone who is trying to avoid that fact or those facts is playing, playing games. And that's just. We're not going to do that here. So as much as we see that, you know, Clinton had these ties, we can't forget that Trump also had these ties. And what it does, folks, right, it's not a, oh, we, well, a gotcha moment or what about ISM or anything like that. What it does, it just shows you how wide ranging this was and how people from all sides of the political aisle and from all bends knew about what was going on and knew who Jeffrey Epstein was and nobody did anything about it. So there's plenty of blame to go around to all of these major politicians and all of these supposed power brokers who were hanging out in Epstein circles who knew that he was hanging out with young girls, that goes for Trump, that goes for Clinton, and that goes for the rest of them, especially these donors like Doug Band and Paul Prosperi. These guys are basically lobbyists. If anybody has the ear of Clinton, it's guys like this. And for them to have this sort of access to Jeffrey Epstein and to think that they're not going back and reporting to Clinton or they're not being a go between for the Clintons. It's naive at best, folks. Okay, it is. It's naive at best.

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[Bobby Capucci]

A 1995 newspaper clipping uncovered by snopes.com describes a dinner, a dinner hosted by Revlon chief Ron Perelman and his wife, with guests including Clinton, who was president at the time, Prosperity and Epstein 1995. Folks, we know, we know for a fact that Epstein was going to the White House and visiting Clinton as well. That's already been documented. So again, there are serious ties there. And I'm not talking about from the sexual misconduct aspect. Let me be very clear. With Bill Clinton, there's no evidence that points in that direction. My question is with the money, where did this money come from that Epstein was pumping into these funds to these foundations? Epstein, we know that all of his money basically was, was received with ill gotten gains. He was up to all sorts of money laundering and shit. We know that. So the money he was pumping to the Clinton foundation and into Bill Clinton's pockets and into, you know, the initiative, where did that money come from? Because again, this all needs to be scrutinized. Where is the outrage over this? Where is the uproar? And I'm not just talking about from the public. What about from people in the Justice Department? What about people in the FBI? If we know this, if this article has been out since February, since July 12th of 2019, and this, this information has been in the public view for that long, you mean to tell me that they don't know about this, the prosecutors don't know about this? How much more evidence do they need of what's going on here? And how much more evidence do they need at the very least to initiate a huge investigation because there's no signs that that's even going on. Well, I will say this though, about that. If there is a huge investigation ongoing, the FBI is going to definitely, definitely play their cards close to their vest when it comes to that. We're not going to hear any declaration of that. So this could all be being investigated as we speak.

[Podcast Co-host]

Right.

[Bobby Capucci]

And in a perfect world, that's what would be occurring. But we know this isn't a perfect world and we know we're not dealing with the most standup characters when it comes to the Justice Department and the current regime. So we can't really have faith that that's happening. So we have to continue to ask these questions until it occurs. We have to continue to bring this stuff up until it occurs. Other guests at that dinner included actor Don Johnson, singer Jimmy Buffett and Don Fowler and then co chairman of the Democratic National Committee. Now, what I will say is this. That was in 1995. So it wasn't on record what Epstein was yet. But I will say this as well. It wasn't like this started overnight. So even though Epstein wasn't on anyone's radar as a child abuser, then it doesn't mean that he wasn't up to that. And I have a sneaking suspicion that he was considering what he did to Maria Farmer right around the same time. So I have a hard time believing that even in 95, these people hanging out around him, they had no idea who he is. But when we talk about just going to a dinner, we. I'm not going to say that Don Johnson or Jimmy Buffett or Don or Don Fowler were involved in any sort of, you know, trafficking or anything like that. We don't know that. But what it does, again, is it provides a bigger picture for everybody to see how Epstein was welcomed and inside of this polite society for decades, even after his arrest. But even back then, everybody knew what

[Podcast Co-host]

he was up to.

[Bobby Capucci]

Everybody you talked to who knew Jeffrey Epstein, knew that he had these sort of proclivities, knew that he was a pretty sick guy. Clinton's spokesman has said that he cut ties with Epstein over a decade ago and has no knowledge of Epstein's alleged crimes. On Friday, a representative for Clinton did not return CNBC's request for commentary. That's shocking, huh? I mean, I mean, wow, the Clinton. Clinton didn't return a request for comment. Of course he didn't. He knows Clinton knows what's up. Look, one thing I will say for Bill Clinton is he is a political animal. The guy knows the deal. He's not going to step in it like Prince Andrew. There's zero chance that happens. If. If Clinton ever gets caught up in this, it's going to be because of good police work. He's not going to step in it. He's not going to make it easy for investigators. He's not going to make it easy for anyone sitting down and talking to him. The guy is sharp when it comes to politics, and there's no doubt about that. Dershowitz spent much of the morning on January 1, 2009, with Epstein, according to records. In a statement to CNBC, Dershowitz said, I always visit clients in prison. We discuss legal issues. It was not a personal visit. It was professional. Easy for him to say, right? Attorney client privilege. Nobody knows what they were talking about. We're not privy to that conversation. And on January 1st, huh? I wonder if we looked at the records. How many of your other clients have you visited on January 1, Mr. I didn't take my underwear off, so it's okay, Dershowitz. We're not buying your story, Mr. Dershowitz. Not here on the Jeffrey Epstein show, that's for sure. Later, that same holiday prosperity came by to see Epstein, as did Joseph Pagano, who has the same name as a venture capitalist previously reported to be a friend of Epstein. CNBC was unable to reach Pagano. Of course they were. Again, these people are all sick. And what'll happen is when they get called on the carpet, their excuse will be, well, I had no idea what he was. I didn't know he was up to that. We didn't know. Come on, you can't hold us responsible. We didn't know. Meanwhile, they're all hanging out at parties with them. You people don't whisper. People. People don't talk. We see how Jeffrey Epstein was.

[Podcast Co-host]

How.

[Bobby Capucci]

How brazen he was, how he talked to Bradley Edwards, even. You think Jeffrey Epstein was the kind of guy that was keeping these secrets?

[Podcast Co-host]

Stop it.

[Bobby Capucci]

Not among his buddies. Not amongst his fellow travelers in so called polite society. Other notable visitors were two of Epstein's alleged co conspirators, Nadia Marcinkova and Sarah kellen. Combined, the two made over 70 visits to the Palm Beach County Jail Record Show. 70 visits. 70 visits. Okay, why were they there 70 times? What could they possibly have to talk about? And also, isn't it a thumb in the eye to the survivors to know that his co conspirators were able to keep coming to jail and to keep. Keep being involved in the conspiracy to keep it going? That's what they were doing. We know that he picked up right where he left off once he left jail. And we even heard reports that he was up to the same shit while he was out on work release. So what were these girls doing there? What was Sarah Kellen Vickers doing there? What was Nadia Marcinkova doing there? They're not privy to lawyer, lawyer client privilege. Were those conversations recorded? If so, where are the tapes? Kellen, according to a court document obtained by the Daily Beast, was one of Epstein's closest aides in the 2000s. She now goes by the name Sarah Kensington and is married to NASCAR driver Brian Vickers. Marcinkova is now a certified FAA pilot and a flight instructor. Neither Kellan nor Marcinkova has been criminally charged. What a travesty to read that. It makes me mad to even read that. How they got away with it for so long is it's mind Boggling the fact that these co conspirators are still being afforded the same sort of protection that they had when Epstein was still out and running the operation.

[Podcast Co-host]

It's.

[Bobby Capucci]

A non prosecution. A non prosecution agreement that Epstein signed with federal prosecutors in Miami in 2007 explicitly said that his alleged co conspirators would not be criminally charged. That's Epstein living up to his end of the bargain. That's Jeffrey Epstein paying in spades. That's Epstein letting these girls know that you keep your mouth shut and I will keep you protected and I will keep that bank account fat. And hell, you can even go have offices in the building at 66th street that my brother brother owns. That was all part of their package, their benefits. That's why they all kept quiet. That's why none of them talked. That's why they all closed ranks around Epstein. But now that Epstein's gone, now that their security blanket has been ripped away from them. Well, it's time. Now is time, Mr. Berman. Alex Acosta, who was U.S. attorney in Miami at the time, oversaw the deal. On Friday, Acosta resigned as Trump's Labor Secretary amid criticism of his handling of the Epstein case more than a decade ago. Now remember, this is an article from July of 2019. Igor Zion, a Russian who was a former martial artist, also made his way to Epstein's jail cell. Well, we know that he was Epstein's security guard and we heard what he had to say when Bradley Edwards penned those columns for the Daily Mail. So we know that Igor was definitely involved. Igor was his security guard. And according to Igor, remember, he does not believe that Epstein killed himself. No one visited Epstein more than story Cowles, who was reportedly his personal assistant. Cal's visited Epstein nearly 130 times. At times, Cal signed in as a paralegal. His online profile says that he is currently an investment banker at Tobin and Company. Isn't that nice? He signed in as a paralegal, huh? I betcha he was doing that for one reason, folks. Attorney client privilege. This is another guy that we have not talked about nowhere near enough on the podcast Story. Cals is another one of these shadowy figures that was brought in and was working as one of these assistants with Jeffrey Epstein. Another man who has not been questioned, subpoenaed, brought to heal, none of it. Still running around having a fantastic life, I'm sure. Epstein finished his 13 month stint in jail with at least 340 visits from a mix of about two dozen friends, colleagues and attorneys, among other associates. The documents show two process servers Also visited Epstein, as did a psychiatric doctor. An attorney for Epstein did not return a request for comment. Dershowitz and Cowles did not return requests for comment while the other visitors could not be reached. Prosperity died in 2016. Epstein was arrested last Saturday on new federal charges filed in New York. He is being held without bail but is due to appear at a detention hearing on Monday. Prosecutors in a court filing on Friday said he is worth more than 500 million and in recent months has made payments to potential witnesses. Yes, he has. We know. We know that that's what he did. He spread that dough around. That was his M.O. that was the same way he got these politicians locked in at first. That was the same way he was provided with enough room to make sure that, that he was able to finesse his way around the legal system. And then you add the extra layer on top of that the intelligence aspect of making sure that their asset, their golden cow, their big time information producer isn't caught up. Well, you have yourself the perfect storm and the. The. The perfect vehicle for this disgusting man to go about his devious, horrible way of life. Epstein, who ran his firm out of the US Virgin Islands historically has had ties to a few wealthy executives and politicians. A few wealthy executives, huh? Les Wexner, chairman of the Avelle Brands was known to be one of his clients before he was first sentenced a decade ago. Cnbc recently uncovered 990 tax documents showing Epstein bankrolled one of Wexner's earliest non profit organizations. I wonder where that money come from. I'm sure that money was all made legit. I'm sure that money wasn't laundered. I'm sure that money wasn't ill gained. I'm sure that money had nothing to do with the criminal enterprise. Nothing at all. He was also a top donor to Representative Stacy Plaskett of the Virgin Islands and she recently reversed course to give his contributions away to charity after outrage on social media. Again this is why the fact that Denise George thinks the Virgin Islands should get any of this dough drives your boy wild. That should not occur. That should not happen. The Virgin Islands had a top donor to Stacy. Representative Stacy Plaskett was Jeffrey Epstein. And do you think that money was out of the kindness of his heart? He truly believed in her platform. He believed in her vision for the Virgin Islands. Or was it to provide himself with a little more protection? Another layer of protection atop another layer of protection. Etc. Etc. Etc. All the way up until he is completely insulated as if he was covered in whale Blubber in the middle of the Arctic. That's basically what was going on, and that's what the money was for. That's why he was spreading it around so much. And that's why I believe Denise George is completely misguided with her jihad here to try and get that money for the Virgin Islands. You can't. There's nobody that's going to convince me that that's okay. That's a. That's a stance and a position that, that I can't be moved from, because anybody who thinks they're getting any of that money, who is not one of the survivors, is in for another. Another thing, because there's no way that money should be distributed to anybody, anybody but these survivors. So again, we added. We add more context here with this entry to the catalog. We see how often and how many times Marcin Kova and Kellen Vickers showed up at that court, right, to see him. I mean, at that jailhouse, to see him. What were they doing there? If they had nothing to do with Jeffrey Epstein and they just worked for him, what were they doing there while he was in jail? Wouldn't they be furloughed or maybe paid a retainer to maybe keep their jobs when they got back, slide back in the position? But no, they're coming to visit him in jail. They're, you know, who knows what they're doing there? Who knows what the conversations entailed? Like I said, did they have attorney client privilege? If not, can we hear those tapes?

[Podcast Co-host]

Where are those tapes?

[Bobby Capucci]

They should be introduced to the public. I think that would be a nice step towards transparency. No, but I don't expect transparency in this case at this point. Barr has completely screwed everything up. He looks like he has zero idea what he's doing when it comes to this case especially. It's just an absolute.

[Podcast Co-host]

It's a shit show.

[Bobby Capucci]

And Berman, I want to get on board and give Birmingham some props and give him a clap and a couple of standing ovations, but the guy's dragging his feet. We need some movement here. We need some action. We need something. We need something where we can say, all right, all right. These guys aren't ignoring this. They are not ignoring a sex trafficking ring at the highest levels of our government. I can't even believe I'm sitting here on a podcast talking about something like that. Something right out of a spy novel or some crazy movie on HBO or, you know, something like that. At least it doesn't seem like real life, that's for sure. It doesn't seem like real life that I'm sitting here talking about this and that. We've been here for 169 straight days talking about this and yet there's no arrests. Yet none of these co conspirators are wrapped up and slammed behind the slammer. I thought Barr said that none of them should rest, rest easily. Well, I'm sure they're all resting fine right now considering that nobody's doing anything, that nobody's getting their door kicked in, that no SWAT teams are showing up to arrest none of these people. I'm sure they're sleeping fine, not missing a wink. We know Ghislaine isn't skulking around from hole to hole. We know she's not missing a wink. So My question is Mr. Bar, Mr. Berman, anybody out there listening? Are you folks ever going to actually go after these people or are we just going to get more lip service as you hope that this goes away? If you think that this is going to go away and you think that we're going to stop talking about it and we're going to stop bringing it up into the public conversation whenever we can, you are sorely mistaken because this will not be wiped under the rug. This will not be tossed away. And this will be something that you're going to be forced to deal with because the people demand justice. And that.

[Podcast Co-host]

That's it.

[Bobby Capucci]

That's it. That's your only option at this point. Keep dragging your feet and you'll the criticism will continue to come. And remember, there's elections that are coming up, right? Elections have consequences. So all of these bureaucrats and these politicians better understand that elections have consequences

[Podcast Co-host]

and

[Bobby Capucci]

they better do their jobs. That's all I can say is they better do their jobs. All right, folks, if you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Capuci.

[Podcast Co-host]

And we have an article tonight from the Daily News. It's going to talk about how Jeffrey Epstein, his body being moved after he was killed or committed suicide. Well, violated federal prison guidelines. We've been saying that since the beginning. Why is it taking the Daily News or the rest of these outlets this long to report that this is not how things work? Also, they're supposed to show up with some handheld cameras. They don't just show up there willy nilly and decide, hey, well, we got a guy who supposedly Killed himself here. The cameras are all broken. We're not gonna record any of this. We're not gonna document any of this. It's not how that works. Not how any of this works. So what happens is they show up and multiple officers have handheld cameras, or at least one officer has a handheld camera, and they document the crime scene. Well, his body was not supposed to be moved, and it was. Now, my question to you is this. Was anybody in that jail at the time of Epstein's death, did anybody in the follow up of his death or leading into his death, was anyone doing their job in the whole entire facility? And if not, why do any of these people still have jobs? How come the only two people that have taken a fall, that have been in trouble, that have been busted, are the two guards that supposedly fell asleep? There was a lot of bad, bad egregious behavior that took place that evening. Guards falling asleep, the body being moved, the camera situation, nobody having answers, etcetera, etc, etcetera. Now they wonder why people would ask themselves or friends or others now that the Internet is around, did they really think that people were just going to accept their. Their line, their narrative? Did they think, would people just accept it and that would be it? Nobody would ask questions, Nobody would dig a little deeper. It's as if they think they have, like, this credibility. That can't be. It's. It's unassailable. News flash, FBI, Department of Justice, Department of Corrections. You have zero credibility, okay? Nobody believes you either. You're about as credible as Prince Andrew at this point. The fact of the matter is everybody was negligent this day. That is one big coincidence that so many people were negligent. And what I also find funny is that we read earlier about the 60 Minutes interview, and they're gonna go into the cell and some of the different things they found in there. Well, now it's coming out that they found an extension cord in there. They found some prescription medication in there. They found way more bed sheets than one inmate would ever need. But my question is this. Why would he choose bed sheets as his method if he had access to an extension cord in there? Wouldn't the extension cord pretty much guarantee you get the result that you're looking for if you use that? But the bed sheets. Look, I'm no expert in suicide, folks, or death by strangulation. That's certainly not my, my expertise there. So I'm just asking questions here. I know if it was me and I was looking to get results, would it be some sheets or would I use the extension cord? I would use the extension cord. But I guess the real question is,

[Bobby Capucci]

why did this man have access to

[Podcast Co-host]

any of this stuff in there? Oh, there was a note written as well, I guess a handwritten note, and that was basically the update from the article we had earlier. And then they go into a whole bunch of other stuff in those articles about, you know, stuff we've covered a million times. So I just wanted to give you the juicy part of that. And I wonder what the note said. I haven't seen any reports on what the note contained, what the. The page the notes contained. I'm curious to see what that was, if they're going to release it. They might not even release it. Who knows? Who knows what's going to be in this CBS, the CBS 60 Minutes. I'm certainly going to watch. And I would suggest that everybody else who's interested in the case watch because A, we can't get enough information because we're all crazy about this case, and B, even in these cases, these. These exposes or these segments or these articles where it seems like we're going over things again, there's always the chance that there's a new nugget inside of these articles. And that's why it's. It's so painstakingly long to cover this case, because each article drops a new nugget, right? So unless you have the time to read through these articles and truly understand what's going on and to get the big picture, how could you ever have an educated opinion of this situation? And the media will never, ever go into depth, deep enough to truly give you an idea of what's going on. The whole blackmail situation, they were.

[Bobby Capucci]

They're just coming to the table with that.

[Podcast Co-host]

We've been talking about that since the very beginning, folks. Since the very beginning of this podcast, we've been talking about the blackmail angle. And it's funny that the legacy media called everybody who talked about that conspiracy theorists. And now it's becoming commonplace, even in the legacy media, for people to accept that this was a blackmail operation. See, the thing is this, folks, they only do the media what their buddies and intelligence tells them to do. Like I was saying earlier, it's a symbiotic relationship. It's. It's a parasitical. They're both parasites living off of each other. But what happened the day that Jeffrey Epstein died, none of us are ever gonna probably know. Let's be real. We're never gonna get to see the tapes that Barr supposedly saw. Yeah, Right. I don't believe a word this man says. And it has nothing to do with the fact that his dad was a teacher at the school Epstein worked at in the 70s. None of that Jazz. It's to the fact that I just don't trust Barr in general. He doesn't. He's not a trustworthy player in this case. There's too many big people that are involved and too many people that he has previous relationships with. Let's be real. He's a bureaucrat of the highest order. He's been in government, you know, public govern, public service for so long. Bush, et cetera, et cetera. Through 9 11. There's. I'm not a fan, I'm not a fan of Barr and I have zero confidence that he's going to prosecute this the right way. What I'm hoping for is a maverick agent. I'm hoping for a mid level agent or a case agent that has had enough and pushes it through. We've seen it before in cases, folks. We have seen it before. And I know there's, there's good people working for the FBI. And hopefully one of those people, this case will come across their desk and they will go after this case with all the zeal and all the gusto it deserves. And then they'll force their bosses into actually taking some sort of action in the case. Right. All right, so if you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O, B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail]. all right, let's get to the article. The article is from the Daily News. It was published today at 11:51am Eastern Standard Time. And the author of the article is Larry McShane. The guards who moved billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein's body from a Manhattan prison cell after his jailhouse suicide. Alleged suicide violated federal protocol, according to a new report. Yeah, you think they said that right away? I said, what in the hell are you talking about?

[Bobby Capucci]

They moved his body.

[Podcast Co-host]

It's a crime scene, for God's sakes. At the very least, it might be a crime scene. You can't disturb that. You can't disrupt that. You can't come in there with morons that don't know what they're doing. Are you kidding me right now? No, that's not normal, said forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden in a 60 Minutes interview airing Sunday on CBS. The EMS people normally and especially in a jail should not move a dead body. No crap. No crap. You don't move a dead body until the investigation has been taken place. Are you kidding me? Especially a high profile guy like Jeffrey Epstein. What is going on in that jail if this is just poor job performance and people not knowing their job, Everybody should be fired. Everybody involved needs to be fired. Then from the warden on down, everybody needs to be fired. And a whole new regime needs to be hired and brought in because this is absolutely ridiculous, folks. Under Federal Bureau of Prisons protocol, a suicide scene must be treated with the same level of protection as any crime scene in which a death has occurred. Yeah, no shit. All right. This is pretty basic stuff here. I'm certainly not, you know, an FBI investigator or anything, or some big wig in the prisons, the Federal Bureau of Prisons, but I have a little bit of common sense, and common sense says do not touch that body. Wouldn't you want to make sure that all of your dies are dotted and your T's are crossed? Especially after you've just realized your colleagues were asleep at the wheel and they falsified logs? Don't you think in the follow up investigation you would have everything buttoned up and ready to go? Is this their first day? I know in a management position, I could be on vacation. And if one of my employees didn't get the proper paperwork after, somebody.

[Bobby Capucci]

Want to bet?

[Podcast Co-host]

Forget it. I'd get 4,000 phone calls on vacation over something like that. And you mean to tell me that these guys flubbed this whole entire thing up, from watching the man to investigating his death, and only those two prison guards are under the microscope? They're the only ones who are charged. That, my friends, is what you call BS. Epstein, 66, was discovered by federal corrections guards shortly after 6:30am on Aug. 10, with one of the workers heard saying, breathe, Epstein, breathe.

[Bobby Capucci]

Okay, sure. So they.

[Podcast Co-host]

They released that detail, right? Why would they release that detail? The guy's been dead for two hours. What do you mean, breathe? Rigor mortis already had started to set in, I bet. Breathe. What do you mean, breathe? I think that was added on. I think that's a little bit of.

[Bobby Capucci]

A little bit of theater.

[Podcast Co-host]

I think they added that on to make it look like they were. Oh, we're here to help. He was taken to New York Presbyterian Lower Manhattan Hospital, but was already beyond resuscitation. Yeah, you think they left him in there to. He was. He was rock solid, hard. He.

[Bobby Capucci]

The guy looked like, you know.

[Podcast Co-host]

Are you kidding me right now? All right? Guy ends up looking like Carbone from

[Bobby Capucci]

Goodfellas in the freezer.

[Podcast Co-host]

You're telling me. Oh, he couldn't be resuscitated. Yeah, no shit he couldn't be resuscitated. He was dead for two hours. Baden, a nationally renowned pathologist hired by Epstein's brother Mark to investigate the death, believes the federal inmate died about two hours earlier. Two hours earlier. And you're trying to give him CPR and resuscitate him?

[Bobby Capucci]

I got news for you.

[Podcast Co-host]

And I know this is going to be breaking news and it's going to be hard to swallow, all right? But he was dead for two hours. You're not going to be able to pump his chest, you're not going to be able to bring him back. All right, there, prison guards. Thanks for coming to my TED Talk. A pair of prison guards were indicted last year for falsifying prison logs and records.

[Bobby Capucci]

In a cover up of their failure

[Podcast Co-host]

to check on Epstein every 30 minutes as required in the defendant's special housing unit, the city medical examiner officially declared Epstein's death a suicide. Well, there it is, folks. It was officially declared by the New York City sub medical examiner. So we can all pack it in. No more discussions. How dare you discuss it. The official word has been sent down. Accept what they say.

[Bobby Capucci]

Accept what your overlords say.

[Podcast Co-host]

Your rulers have told you what it is. Yeah, right. So we're not supposed to question it because the city medical examiner officially said it was a suicide?

[Bobby Capucci]

Sorry.

[Podcast Co-host]

She said it was a suicide. Biden says otherwise. Who are we to believe? I leave that up to you, folks. Although his shocking demise led to immediate speculation about a more. More sinister end for the accused sex trafficker and abuser of underage girls, Epstein, after a prior suicide attempt inside a Manhattan correctional center. That's un corroborated. We don't know if he definitely tried to commit suicide.

[Bobby Capucci]

He was in there with somebody that

[Podcast Co-host]

was being accused of four homicides, folks. Nicholas Tartaglioni.

[Bobby Capucci]

Oh, boy.

[Podcast Co-host]

So you're telling me that you have. The only person that you can put into jail with Jeffrey Epstein is Nicholas Tartaglioni, a big muscle bound, meathead looking dude who is in there accused of killing people in a drug deal gone bad. And then you wanna know why we're asking questions if Epstein was attacked or if he tried to commit suicide. So what, was Tartaglioni sitting there with his headphones in and a blindfold on as Epstein began to commit suicide and then only jumped in afterwards? Or was it more likely that Tartaglioni attacked Epstein? And I'm not saying he was paid to do that or anything. But at the end of the day, he's in prison. They're both in prison. And there's nothing worse in prison than a child molester. Tartaglioni, an ex cop who is definitely on the same rung almost as child molesters in prison, figures he can gain some cred by going after Epstein. Seems like a logical conclusion, right? Or Tartaglioni was laying on his bed, waiting around. Epstein tried to hang himself from the top bunk. Tartaglioni let him hang himself for a little while, but then maybe he thought

[Bobby Capucci]

better of it and decided to step

[Podcast Co-host]

in and be the hero. That doesn't make any sense to me, folks. All right? Zero sense. And it does not make any sense to me that Tartaglioni was even in that cell for one single minute. Epstein, after a prior suicide attempt inside the Manhattan Correctional center, allegedly had only recently returned to his cell after a stint under psychological evaluation in a jail medical wing. The Bureau of Prisons declined to comment Friday on the protocol violation, saying the Epstein case is currently under investigation by the Federal Bureau of Investigations and the Department of Justice Office of Inspector General. So that means Michael Horowitz, the man who uncovered the 17 FISA irregularities, is also investigating this case. Epstein pleaded guilty in 2008 to soliciting a minor for prostitution in Florida in a sweetheart deal with prosecutors, but faced a virtual life sentence of 45 years in prison if convicted on the new charges leveled by federal prosecutors. All right, so again, we see how many chambers are in this case. We see how many different layers there are in this rabbit hole. Every day it's something new, folks. Every single day, it's something new. The fact that his body was moved after he committed suicide has always been laughable to me that nobody has talked about that. There's very few people that have brought that up. And you do not move a body. If, especially in a situation like this with a man like Jeffrey Epstein, you make sure everything is buttoned up. It is just unconscionable that it was that big of a failure. All of a sudden, they have Jeffrey Epstein in there, and it's that big of a failure. This is the same place that's held El Chapo. This is the same place that held John Gotti.

[Bobby Capucci]

This is the same place that has

[Podcast Co-host]

held Insert crazy mofo here and just Jeffrey Epstein's the one that this happens to, folks. A day after the treasure trove of documents is released. I'll leave it up to you to decide. I don't have the answers.

[Bobby Capucci]

One way or the other.

[Podcast Co-host]

But I will tell you this something does not smell right. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail].