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The Epstein Chronicles
Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Four Females Who Made His Operation Possible (Part 5-7) (5/9/26)
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These four women were explicitly named as "potential co-conspirators" in Jeffrey Epstein’s 2008 non-prosecution agreement, a deal that allowed him to avoid serious federal charges. Sarah Kellen and Lesley Groff, both former assistants, are accused of...
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businesscredit Nobody does it better than Regent Seven Seas Cruises. Enjoy all inclusive, unrivaled luxury with unlimited shore excursions, indulgent cuisine, personalized service and more aboard spacious all suite ships. Visit rssc.com to experience the unrivaled this article again was authored by Tara Palmeri over at Politico. You can find the link in the description box. The Justice System When Epstein faced charges in Florida, many of his survivors cooperated with investigators hoping to see him brought to justice. Instead, they came away feeling betrayed by the justice system, including two female prosecutors assigned to oversee their case. Now, can you imagine if you were the parents of these young girls and you brought this to the attention of the authorities and in turn the authorities flipped the script and turned the tables and tried to posit your daughter as some sort of hooker or or or prostitute because of a few social media posts. And remember, we're not talking about the defense team doing that. We're talking while I find it unsavory and a disgusting tactic, that's what the defense team is supposed to do, right? They're supposed to try and get their client off however they possibly can within the guidelines of the law. And if that is destroying the credibility of a witness, then you know that the defense team is going to go down that path. It is up to the prosecution, the the prosecutors, the state to make sure that doesn't occur. Basically, in this case, the prosecutors acted as a proxy for the defense by absolutely destroying their own witnesses credibility. But the report that came out in Florida said everything was okay. There was nothing untowards that occurred there folks. Come on, it was all above board. Meanwhile, everybody who's paying attention understands that there is something severely wrong here. In 2006, Epstein was charged in Palm beach county with solicitation of prostitution, to which he pleaded not guilty. Despite the fact that between the Palm beach police and the FBI dozens of survivors were identified, Epstein was offered a plea deal in 2008 that allowed him to spend just 13 months in a county jail in his own wing, with private security and with work release six days per week. I mean, wow, really? How many people are rotting away in jail right now, in prison right now, for a lot less than what Jeffrey Epstein did, this guy was treated like he was the Sultan of Brunei. Able to go to his office, able to conduct business, able to keep making money, able to pay security guards hand over fist to sit around in the lobby. I guess, according to the report, they didn't even go up to the office. They hung out in the lobby. So how do they know what he's up to? It was all a scam, folks. Political theater, whatever you want to call it. But the 11th Circuit Court, they think that it's all okay. All of this was okay. Oh, there was a couple of mistakes made, sure. But nobody broke the law when they absolutely stepped on and crushed the rights of these survivors. Now, nobody broke the law, though. While they are far from the only people involved in the case, two women were the lead prosecutors. Lana Bella Holavic, an Assistant State Attorney for Palm beach county, and Marie vilafana, an assistant U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida. Now, again, I've been pretty clear about Vilafana and how I feel about her. I know some people have tried to position her as some kind of champion here, and I just don't buy it if she was as concerned as she says she is. Why don't you go above the heads of the people that are trying to stop you from your investigation? Why don't you elevate it all the way up and leave a paper trail so they have no other choice but to investigate it? I mean, it's basically what Kiki Camarena did down in Mexico when he was working with the dea when he. When they found the buffalo growing fields. Well, you think the United States wanted to go down there and rock the boat by burning those fields? The DEA agents, Kiki Camarena and his people, forced the issue. And sometimes working as a federal agent or a police officer officer, or someone in a position such as that, you have to be willing to put your neck on the line. And I don't only mean on the streets, but I mean with your peers. If you see something that's going wrong, you have to step up and do the right thing. And sometimes you have to use some back channels even to force the issue. But what I won't get down with, and one I won't accept, is one of these federal agents acting like they had no recourse acting like there was nowhere to go, nowhere to turn. Because we know that's all bs. We know that federal agents in the past, like the example I just gave you, have pushed the envelope. And if the issue really mattered to Villefauna the way she acts like it did, she would have pushed the envelope. So, no, I don't find her to be a hero, folks. Other people might have another opinion, and that's fine. But for me, certainly not some sort of hero or champion of the survivor's cause. Both acted under the direction of their respective male bosses. But importantly, they served as the point of contact with the survivors and their lawyers, who say they often felt ignored and misled. Now, I certainly am not going to put all of the blame on Lana below and Vilafana, but they certainly need to shoulder their share. And what Palmeri's getting at here, what Tara Palmeri's getting at here in the article is she's just magnifying the fact that it's not just women on one side, meaning the side of Epstein, but the women as part of the prosecution who also flubbed up here, who also fumbled the ball here, who also weren't looking out for the best interests of these girls. That's what Tara Palmeri is saying here. And it just goes to show you, again, you would think that as a woman that you would be through the roof mad about this sort of occurrence. And if you were a prosecutor and in a position where you can do something about it, you would think that you would damn well kick it into gear and do something about it. But instead, Vilafana and others, they didn't. They accepted it. Ultimately, it is Belo Halavik and Vilafana's names that are on Epstein's non prosecution agreement, plea deal and light jail sentence. So again, don't think that the federal prosecutors are stupid, right? Don't think that Mukase Co. Acosta and the rest of them are stupid. This was all concocted from way on up top, folks. I am convinced of that. If you think that Mukase had nothing to do with this deal, I don't know what to tell you. One of the main things of a bureaucracy is that there are many hands in the pie at all times. And when you have something as as serious as this, something as high profile as this, you better believe that Mukazi's office was involved in every bit of this decision making. And the fact that this guy has flown under the radar for so long and nobody ever even really brings him up. I can't recall one single Legacy Media article bringing him up. I wonder why that is. Don't you think the guy that was in charge of the whole entire shebang should be asked a few questions? You know, maybe like, why are there a year's worth of emails missing? Might be a good place to start. But again, we don't. We see that there's no responsibility, no self responsibility, no institutional responsibility. Even the two guards who fell asleep supposedly are getting. So there is no self responsibility. There's no. There's nobody taking the. The lead here. Right. Everybody will deflect. Vilafano will say it was Krisher, and Krisher will say it was Acosta, and Acosta will punt somewhere else, and then it gets lost in the belly of the bureaucracy and everybody shrugs their shoulders and just moves on. That's how it usually works. This time, though, it's not the case. People want answers. And I think that a lot of those answers when it comes to this deal, you'd have to start at a place like Mukase's office to get to the real bottom of all of this. The two women were handed compelling evidence. The late Detective Joe Ricardi of the Palm Beach Police Department investigated for more than a year, identifying five teenage victims and 17 witnesses. Five victims and 17 witnesses. It's a prosecutor's dream case. Talk about open and shut and moving on to the next one. Don't these prosecutors love to get those cases moving through the court systems? Well, they had a treasure trove here. A treasure trove. Now imagine in any logical world where there are five teenage victims and 17 witnesses and you get a plea deal like Jeffrey Epstein got. Can you tell me in any version of reality where that's okay, meanwhile, you got people doing 25, 30 year bids with a lot weaker evidence than this. So when they say Ghislaine Maxwell's being treated unfairly or her conditions in jail are wrong, that's why I scoff, that's why I laugh, and that's why I think it's an absolute joke to even go down that road. Yet according to an investigation by Florida Department of Law Enforcement, the results of which were released this week, Bella Halavik did not interview a single victim to build the case against Epstein. Oh, yeah? Well, why should she? Why should she? They were all working hand in hand with Epstein's lawyers. I'm convinced of that. And no BS report by the, the FDLE or Ron DeSantis or any other internal group is going to change my mind. Okay, what happened down in Florida was an absolute travesty. The non prosecution agreements is one of the biggest black eyes in the history of the Justice Department. And I mean that, that's not hyperbole. I truly mean that. That is one of the biggest black eyes of all time. To let this guy slide out, to let this guy slide through and continue on with his molesting, his abusing, his raping, some of that, if not a majority of that responsibility falls directly at the feet of the federal government. And they still refuse to take responsibility. Those are your politicians, folks, those are your elected officials. Those are the people that you put up on a pedestal. Just remember when you're doing that, when you're cheering these guys on, they were the same people integral in making these decisions. To make it easy on Jeffrey Epstein. Just keep that in mind. She was definitely being cagey. Spencer Kuvan, a Florida based lawyer who represented some of Epstein's survivors, told me he said Bella Holavik would not use his clients as witnesses even though a police report from one of them had launched the case. And that's all part of it, right? Look, they have, these prosecutors have a lot of power when it comes to trying cases or not trying cases. A lot of leeway. And she could have easily, easily pushed this through and made this a serious, serious situation, but she didn't. She was being pressured by Epstein's high profile lawyers and I'm sure by people in the bureaucracy itself, people from Mukase's office, people from on high at the FBI doing Mukazi's bidding, etc. Etc. The fact is nobody wanted this story to get out. None of. Not the feds and not the state. Ricari said in a 2010 deposition that Bella Holavec told him she concluded there were no, sir, no victims here. I mean, really, that's what Bella Hillavic concluded. Huh? She's such a great investigator that she came up with that. Something that flew completely in the face of what the actual investigators, you know, the police came up with. Her job is to prosecute what's going on. All right? Not trying to determine if the, if there was victims here or not. Are you kidding me right now? But no, she didn't do anything wrong. She shouldn't be sanctioned. She shouldn't have her pension taken away because you know, when you're part of the crew, when you're part of the so called elite infrastructure, and that's what all of these people are, all of these little hired toadies in the bureaucracy that have their hand in the cash Bag. Well, this is the result that you get. This is the smell. Her boss, State attorney Barry Krisher, told the FDLA FDLE he believed Epstein's teenage survivors might have engaged in prostitution under Florida law. Epstein's legal team also provided Bella Holavic with what the FDLE called derogatory information about the victims, including their MySpace pages which showed them drinking, smoking marijuana, and kissing boys. Holy hell. Stop the press. Teenagers were smoking pot, drinking, and kissing boys. That has never occurred in the history of teenagendom. I mean, really, every. Look, let's be real now. I'm sure some of you out there might have lived a wholesome life. That's. And that's. That's fine. I'm guessing a majority of you out there listening when you were in high school, kissed a couple of boys, smoked a joint or two, had a couple of drinks, and, you know, probably were posting some goofy shit on your MySpace page. All right? Or if you're old like me, dicking around on, like, aol. So to use that against these girls and not just the defense, try and use it, which you would expect, right? That's much expected. But the prosecutors torpedoing their own case, for what reason? What motivation do you have? According to the FDLE and files made public by the state's attorney's office, Bella Holavik and Epstein's lawyers began discussing the possibility of a plea deal that would have allowed Epstein to avoid incarceration. And also another thing with the prostitution angle, that was part of the plan for Epstein. He knew the laws, his lawyers knew the laws, and they hipped him to it before he engaged in this. I am convinced of that. So they knew going into it with Florida's laws that if you gave them money, you could use the defense that it was a prostitute and you were just a simple John. And that is exactly the defense Jeffrey Epstein used, and that is exactly the defense that he got off on. When the negotiations fell through, Krisher called a grand jury to decide whether to charge Epstein, a rare move for a sex crime in Florida and one that was seen as a way to bury the case. Bela Holavick, whom a fellow prosecutor in the office described as Kisher's pawn, then presented just one 14 year old witness before the jury. Krisher told the FDLE two other victims had been invited to testify, but declined to. Epstein was charged with a single count of solicitation of prostitution in July 2006. In July 2006, he was out on bail in time for lunch. So think about that and let it settle in for a minute. Okay. Barry Krisher said that two of the other girls wouldn't even come in before the grand jury, which I. I don't even believe. What about all of the other witnesses? And why take it to a grand jury in the first place? There was ample evidence here for you to do this. Do this without bringing it to a grand jury. Most definitely. This was brought before the grand jury so that they can manipulate things, so that they could make it look like these accusers were incredible. And I'll stick to that. That's my opinion. That's. That's my working hypothesis here. They were all in on it. Krisher, Bella Holavik, Vilafana, in some regard, they all played a part in being in on getting Jeffrey Epstein off. And that's just the truth of it. All right? Those are the facts. That's it. There's no tiptoeing around it. These people, the prosecutors, the state, federal, all of them are complicit in every single crime that Jeffrey Epstein committed after they arrested him and didn't put him in prison forever. Point blank, period. Digest that. According to the FDLE investigation, Palm Beach Police Chief Michael Ryder believed Bella Holavic wanted the case to go away, while Ricari said she was trying to brush the case under the carpet. And now, when we look back and Monday morning, quarterback this shit and look at it with hindsight as a benefit, it's rather obvious that's what they were trying to do. Take it to a grand jury. Buff Ungool should have never been in front of a grand jury. And furthermore, we all know that grand juries will indict even a ham sandwich. But the prosecution was limp. They didn't want to do the right thing. They were protecting their asset. Jeffrey Epstein, Mr. Bagman. Friend to politicians, friend to the political elite, friend to business magnates. Yeah, that guy. The FDLE investigation found that the state attorney's office did not break any laws in its handling of the Epstein case. Of course it didn't. Why would the state find themselves culpable and open themselves to a whole bevy of lawsuits and outside scrutiny? When's the last time you've seen one of these states or organizations do that? They have to be forced into doing that. Bella Holavik told investigators she did not pursue more serious charges against Epstein because she had concerns about whether the victim's stories would hold up under questioning in a trial. Oh, yeah? So that stopped you, huh? Here's an idea. Roll the dice, go for broke. Because the shit you slapped him with is a joke and a slap in the face to everybody involved. So you should have went for broke. What you think the federal prosecutors who went after Gotti the third, fourth time, we're just like, ah, well, not a strong enough case, so we're just gonna let it go? Of course not. They pursued him over and over and over again until they got the conviction. Just like these prosecutors should have done from the beginning. But they didn't. They were negligent and they failed these girls and the whole entire nation. She also said she was limited by state law, including statutes of limitation. She previously has called Epstein's behavior reprehensible. Bella Holavic, who currently works in a private practice, did not respond to a request for comment. Well, I hope she's making big money at that private practice because if it was up to me, she wouldn't have a pension coming in ever again from the the state. It's an absolute joke that these people are still getting a pension and all of this other shit. After the grand jury charge, the legal saga was far from over. In the spring of 2006, Ricari and Ryder, furious about how the state was still handling the case, met with an FBI agent and Vilafana, a 37 year old prosecutor from the U.S. attorney's office in Miami who was well respected for her handling of child exploitation cases. And that's the going theme, right? All of these people who were involved, Krisher and Vilafana, supposedly were super hard on child sex offenders. Until Jeffrey Epstein rolls around. And then I guess it's just another coincidence, huh, that he was let off easy, that nobody had any time to really pursue him. All of these hard charging agents of the truth. Give me a break. It's not obvious to everybody out there what was going on. That Epstein was playing everybody like a fiddle, that his money and his long pockets enabled him to do so. So my question is, where is the forensic accounting of all of his money? Who received it, when did they receive it and how much of it did they get? And now it's Geico's motorcycle. And the FBI then worked on the case for more than nine months, identifying new victims and uncovering an interstate trafficking operation which she laid out in an 82 page prosecution memo and proposed 60 count indictment. So we went from an 82 page prosecution memo and a 60 count indictment to one charge of solicitation, huh? Yeah, because that's normal, but because that shouldn't have everybody who knows about it steaming with smoke coming out of their ears. How in the hell is this even possible. It was a slam dunk, said Bradley Edwards, the Florida based lawyer who represents Shartoony and O as well as wild as victims. I never had a case like that with that much evidence. And I'm just talking about evidence that we have seen as the public. What's available as circumstantial evidence. To us it's a mountain high. I'm certainly not a prosecutor. I'm lucky I can pair my socks, folks. But if I'm building this case, you'd have to think that a competent prosecutor would be all over it. And furthermore, the they had a 60 count indictment, interstate sex trafficking, laws broken, but no talk about the Man Act. That is exactly what the Man act was established for. But according to a 2020 report from the Justice Department's Office of Professional Responsibility, aka the COVID Our Ass district, which investigated the handling of Epstein's case, Vilafana's boss at the time, U.S. attorney Alexander Acosta, instructed her to strike a plea deal in which Epstein would only serve two years in prison. Again, if you really think that Acosta cooked this one up himself, I have waterfront property to sell you in the middle of the desert. It's laughable. Acosta didn't do this on his own. In a bubble. He just showed up to work one day and was like, oh, I'm the biggest swinging D in here. I'm gonna do whatever I want. That is not how it works in the bureaucracy in the Borg. Although Vilafana objected internally, she went ahead with negotiating a non prosecution agreement with Epstein's lawyers and drafting its language. The final deal said Epstein would plead guilty to two state charges, procuring a minor for prostitution and felony solicitation, down from the 60 charges that he was originally going to be hit with. Folks. All right, just keep that in mind whenever we talk about Epstein and what he was convicted of. Just remember that originally the federal government was looking at nailing him with 60 charges with the Tara Palmeri article over at Politico titled the women who enabled Jeffrey Epstein. This is part six, the socialites and professionals. Look, Epstein had so many people in his atmosphere and in his orbit that it's very hard to keep them all in order. Right? We know that there were business professionals, academics, politicians, you name it, Jeffrey Epstein had his fingers in the pie. And a lot of these so called socialites and professionals and business magnates all had an idea, at the very least what Jeffrey Epstein was. But they all faked the funk. They all made pretend that he wasn't an animal, that that he wasn't a monster because they thought that perhaps they could use him as a vehicle to get to whatever goal they had set out for themselves. And for them to act like they had no idea what Epstein was or what Epstein was doing is just straight up trash. What did the former CEO of Reddit tell us? That everybody knew about Maxwell, right? Everybody knew about Epstein. These dudes were meeting with him after the fact, they were hanging out with him after the fact, after he had been arrested on that bullshit solicitation charge. And it was all part of the grand scheme, wasn't it, to make sure that Jeffrey Epstein could refurbish his image upon release. That was the whole entire crux of the situation. That's what they wanted, that's what they were going for. And Krisher and Vilafana and the rest of those so called prosecut walked right into it and were happy to help. And all of these so called business professionals that helped him refurbish his image afterwards, they're all scumbags. While many of the women around Epstein have said their complicity resulted from a sense of powerlessness, another group, perhaps more inexplicable, were the high society women who helped to legitimize him after his time in jail. And again, you know, from where I'm sitting, there is no excuse for these people who helped him after he was arrested the first time. Now, up until that point, you could try and make the argument you had no idea. I don't know who's gonna believe you, but at least you can try and make that argument after the fact, after he had already been arrested and after he was already considered a sex offender, you're going to go over to his house and you're going to talk numbers with him, you're going to try and chop it up and get some donations for your favorite charity from a sex offender. There's nobody else better out there to go and get some money from, huh? Again, they don't care, folks. Look, these kind of people that we're talking about, the socialites and professionals, they only care about one thing, how many zeros are in your bank account. And on top of that, right, paired with it, what you can do for them professionally or personally, that's all they care about. Not that you're a child sex offender, not that you abused people, not that you're just a general all around scumbag. No, that doesn't matter. Because if you have the money and you have the reach and you have the power, you most certainly are accepted amongst the so called Elite. With their help, Epstein waltzed back onto exclusive guest lists and into private parties, sending a signal to the Elite that he was not a pariah. Men played this role, too. But by the time Epstein was known to have targeted girls, his connections with influential women took on special significance. And of course, again, nobody really looks at a situation like this and thinks, you know, the first thing that pops in their head is, oh, man, there's definitely some women involved here. Up until this case, when I started really digging into, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and his. The core four, his lieutenants and everybody surrounding him, I had no idea the role that women played in operations like this. Then you take a look at someplace like Nexium and you see it again. So it just cements my whole entire outlook that everybody's a great character, right? Everybody's capable of great evil. Everybody's capable of great good. Well, not everybody, I guess, but you know what I mean. The vast majority of us are capable of great evil. Look, if your family was being threatened and, you know, the only way to help your family was to become a savage to protect them, you would become a savage to protect them. Most people would. And that's why you see atrocities committed in war and all of that jazz. People are gray characters. And one thing that has certainly been at the forefront of this Epstein case is, is there are no good guys, right? Certainly not in the prosecution, certainly not anywhere near Epstein. The only people I would say are. Could be considered even good guys in this whole entire ordeal are a couple of the lawyers defending these girls. Besides that, this is just an absolute shit show filled with bad, horrible actors on top of bad, horrible actors. One of Epstein's longtime defenders was his former girlfriend of 11 years, Eva Anderson Dubin, a doctor, former Miss Sweden, and now the wife of the billionaire financier and accused rapist, Glenn Dubin. Now, anyone who's followed this case knows that Eva Anderson Dubin and Glenn Dubin were super close to Epstein. Super close to Epstein. Eva and Epstein dated previously, as stated here, 11 years they dated, and they remained close. Even after Eva Dubin was married to Glenn. They, Jeffrey and her, remained very close. So close, in fact, that after Jeffrey Epstein was released from prison, directly at. Well, shouldn't even call it prison, from his little holiday stay at the stockade. Well, where do you think he went and spent Thanksgiving dinner? Oh, that's right over at the Andersons. Imagine having little kids and inviting a sex offender over to your house for Thanksgiving dinner. That's a good idea. Fantastic idea. I mean, wow, Talk about parent of the year award, right? And it just goes to show you, once again, all the money in the world, all the billions in the world can't fix. Stupid. In 2007, while Epstein's non prosecution agreement was being negotiated, his legal team sent the Palm Beach State Attorney's office a laudatory testimonial from Eva Dubin. I could not ask for a better friend or godfather to my children, she wrote. Hey, hang on a minute while I throw up real quick. You imagine writing this kind of letter for a sex offender. I couldn't. I can't imagine a better friend or a godfather to my children. I mean, wow. And furthermore, imagine if this dude was your godfather. Talk about wanting to scrub some history, right? Make sure you scrub that out of the annals of history. On what planet does this lady think it's a good idea, this mother of children, of daughters, think it's a good idea to send some glowing letter to the prosecutors to try and get Jeffrey Epstein off? Furthermore, how is this not more of a story? How is this not blasted all over the front page of the news? Oh, I know why. Because it's not an issue that'll divide, right? So if it's not an issue that'll divide us into tribes, then they try and stay away from that. Because that doesn't sell. The truth doesn't sell. And the truth, folks, is Glenn and Eva Dubin, they got some answering to do. And the fact that they have not been hounded by journalists, the fact that they have not been hounded by the media, it just goes to show you once again that the elite are protected by the handful of media outlets that run the whole entire charade. Two years later, after Epstein's guilty plea, she wrote an email to Epstein's probation officer saying she was aware of Epstein's status as a registered sex offender, but that she was 100% comfortable having him around her children. I mean, really, the mother of the year award goes, too. It's absolutely crazy. Can you imagine if this was just a regular person saying this? How they'd be just absolutely destroyed on TV for being a terrible mother, a terrible father. But since it's billionaire Glenn Dubin and his wife, it's all good. They're. They're just eccentric. They live a different way than we do. I don't have any kids, folks, right? But pretty sure that if I had children, no sex offenders are coming over to have Thanksgiving dinner. What planet is that okay on? And what reality is that okay in? Because normal people. Well, normal people don't want sex offenders like Jeffrey Epstein around their children. They certainly don't want Jeffrey Epstein to be the godfather of their children. And normal people don't want their children calling a guy like that Uncle Jeffy. Later in the month, according to Business Insider, Epstein spent his first Thanksgiving after his release at the Dubins Palm beach home. Boy, I'm sure that was just a fantastic ordeal. Hey, Uncle Jeffy, can you pass me a turkey leg? You imagine the conversation around that table. What sort of sordid disgustingness was occurring? And then furthermore, what kind of clown is this Glenn Dubin. So you got your wife's ex boyfriend hanging out for Thanksgiving dinner, sitting there at the table. Okay, cuckold. You mean to tell me that Jeffrey Epstein and Eva Dubin had no sort of relationship? Huh? Yeah, okay, sure. You know, guys like Glenn Dubin, absolute cucks. Oh, yeah, sure, honey. Have your ex boyfriend of 11 years come on over to dinner. Oh, he could be the godfather to our children. How do you know Glenn Dubin isn't Italian? Well, that tells you it right there, my friends, because that shit certainly wouldn't be happening around my table. A sex offender ex boyfriend around my kids. Yeah, that's gonna play out well. Witnesses have suggested in court that Eva Dubin was familiar with Epstein's behavior. Roberts wrote in her draft memoir that in 2001, Epstein had ordered her to give Dubin a massage that included rubbing her breasts, which were stored from pregnancy at the Breakers, a Palm beach resort. Imagine, that's how these people feel. That's how these people think about you. Oh, you're nothing to me. You're just chattel. Come over here and rub so and so's breasts. Because I told you, oh, it doesn't matter that you're an underage kid or anything like that. And someone like Eva Dubin completely cool with it. Oh, yeah, come do that. These people are detached from reality and they truly believe that there is a set of rules for them and a set of rules for everybody else. And unfortunately, they've gotten away with it for so long. There's been no repercussions. Nobody goes to jail, nobody gets in trouble. So they keep on doing it over and over and over again. In a 2016 deposition, the Dubins butler, Ronaldo Rizzo recalled speaking to a distraught and quivering 15 year old Swedish girl in the couple's kitchen in 2005. According to Rizzo, the teenager claimed to be Epstein's assistant and described being pressured by Epstein's female associates to have sex on his private island. She did not specify with whom. So we know that those assistants, Sarah, Kellen, Vickers, and the rest of them, were integral in that. Of course, they were pressuring this girl. That was part of the grooming process, part of the normalization of it all. And then this poor girl, 15 years old, shows up in Glenn and Eva Dubin's kitchen, distraught, crying, and talking to Ronaldo Rizzo about all of this shit that occurred. Now, I don't know how Mr. Rizzo here had the restraint that he did, but I would have confronted the Dubins if I was this butler guy. I mean, I don't care. At the end of the day, it's just money and a job, right? You can get a new job, you can get. You make more money. Plenty of it out there. But when it comes to your integrity, when it comes to what's inside and how you can live with yourself, I don't know how people just ignore stuff like this. If anyone came crying to me in some kitchen of an employer and was telling me about all of this crazy, wild shit, first of all, that employer would be confronted. Second of all, the police would be called. Third of all, I would be going nowhere until the police arrived. And now that's saying a lot, because I don't want to have any interactions with the police folks, all right? The last thing I want to do is speak to the police in any sort of capacity. But when it comes to something like this, I mean, you got a little girl crying in the kitchen about the behavior of your employer and your employer's friends. You got to do something about it. You can't just sit there and then talk about it after the fact like it's, you know, like it affected you. People got to have some backbone in life. People got to know when it's time to stand up to other people like this and say, no way. This isn't going to occur. I'm not going to. I'm not going to be part of this. And nobody did that throughout this whole Epstein thing. Did anybody ever get up at one of these dinners or one of these events where he was being crude and rude in front of their wives and smack this mother effer in the teeth? Certainly never been reported. That's what he needed, though. One thing that this dude never got in his life, obviously, was a good quality life lesson. And you need those, okay? You need those growing up. Got a big mouth. Somebody's gonna shut it for you eventually. But Jeffrey Epstein seems to never have run into somebody like that. It's very unfortunate. Rizzo Testified that Eva Dubin walked into the kitchen after the story had been told and said the teenager would be working for the Dubins as a nanny. A 15 year old nanny, huh? 15 and a half year old nanny. Now I understand maybe like a 15 and a half year old neighbor babysitting the kid for a night, but a nanny? Wouldn't you want to go out and get a real nanny or an au pair, somebody who has a resume, somebody who perhaps speaks a couple of languages to help your child transition and with schoolwork and all of that stuff, isn't that what you would be looking for, a 15 and a half year old girl, huh? Pretty gross. When you look at it as a whole here and not in a vacuum. When you look at it as people who are wearing glasses that see what the Epstein folks are up to, it becomes a very disturbing, disturbing situation. A 15 and a half year old nanny, huh? Oh, what's next? Let me go get. I'm gonna get myself a nine year old heart surgeon. Said the Dubins were horrified by and completely unaware of Jeffrey Epstein's unspeakable conduct. They categorically denied the allegations by Roberts and Rizzo and have evidence disproving them. The spokesperson showed Politico these materials over zoom but did not share a copy or respond to additional questions. Oh, yeah, I'm sure there's a ton of evidence out there. I'm sure you guys are swimming in the evidence. You, Glenn and Eva Dubin. So much so that that's why Glenn stepped back from his business, huh? Don't think anyone's forgotten you folks, because we have not. And how authorities have not brought you in for questioning yet. It should be on Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack. Hollywood party planner Peggy Siegel assisted Epstein's social media reintegration by including him on guest lists for exclusive parties. Considered a social power broker in New York and Los Angeles, Siegel allowed Epstein to attend a film screening she organized in Southampton in 2010. And it was. And when she was questioned about it, right petty Peggy Siegel, she used the whole excuse. Oh, I had no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was. And oh, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, poor me, my business is suffering, my career is suffering. Nobody cares. Nobody cares, okay? If you were helping to refurbish Jeffrey Epstein's image, if you were bringing him to parties and palling around with them and you know, oh, shucks in with them, guess what? Nobody cares. No empathy for you. There is no excuse for people like this, these high rollers in social society, the so called elite, to be palling around with Jeffrey Epstein. Not unless they're all fellow travelers. The event, also attended by Rudy Giuliani, Steve Mnuchin, Wilbur Ross, and others, took place just months after Epstein had gotten out of prison. Imagine that, huh? A bunch of paragons of society. Good old Steve Mnuchin, Scumbag ass who also had ties to Jean Luc Brunel, mind you. Wilbur Ross. Oh, yeah. Quality individual. And Rudy Giuliani, huh? Another just pillar of the community. There's never been any taint on any of these people. Come on, folks. But if you ask any of these people, they'll give you the same story. Oh, we had no idea that Jeffrey Epstein was even at this party. We don't know who he is. It's all the same story all the time. And frankly, I'm just tired of it from all of them. In 2011, Siegel threw a dinner party at Epstein's townhouse for Prince Andrew that also included Katie Couric, George Stephanopoulos, and his clogs, and Chelsea Handler. Now, recently, maybe not recently, a month ago, a few months ago, the Chelsea Handler situation came back to the forefront when she was asked about, you know, the Epstein situation. But nobody dug deeper, right? What are you doing there? Why are you even at Epstein's? Oh, I know you're Katie Couric's plus one. Okay, so what's Katie Couric doing there? What is she. How does she know Epstein well enough to get a plus one at his townhouse? And then there's good old Georgie Stepanopoulos, huh? Mr. Ivory Tower himself, Mr. Look down at you and tell you how horrible of a human being you are. But meanwhile, this dude's breaking bread with Jeffrey Epstein. This dude's rubbing elbows with a bunch of molesters. But you're the bad person. You're horrible because you don't share his opinion on whatever the topic is. These hypocrites, these scumbags in the legacy media, it is an absolute joke to watch them scramble and gaslight and think that they still have control of the narrative. Besides, a small segment of the population who really even tunes into these people anymore. Siegel previously has said that she was not aware Epstein had been accused of abusing minors. After his sentencing, Epstein tried to downplay his charges publicly. A friend of Siegel's, speaking on her behalf, told Politico that Epstein would call Siegel from time to time to request party invitations, but she did not seek him out. The friend also said Epstein had attended the Southampton party as a guest of a guest. Oh, as a guest of which Guests, then can we know who the plus one was? Or is that secret state information that nobody's gonna be made aware of? You know, it's like they throw these things out there, oh, he was a guest of one, he was a guest of another guest. Okay, what does that even mean? So who was the other guest? But they don't, you know, they don't want to expand, they don't want to expound on that. Right? Because the narrative is they just want to throw a little bit out there to make it murky so that there's enough to make it seem like, oh well, maybe they didn't know that's what they're trying to do. Meanwhile, nobody is buying it anymore. Nobody's buying the narrative, and nobody's buying the shit that they're shoveling. Another way Epstein sought to rehabilitate himself after his jail time was through philanthropy, particularly in the sciences, where seemingly innocuous or peripheral contacts helped to restore his social credibility. We all know that the academics and academia in general played a huge role in Jeffrey Epstein refurbishing his image. Having a office at Harvard, connections to mit, connections to Arizona State University, you name it. And this guy had connections to these top academics, top scientists, and they were all in his pocket. They were all on the, on the dole, right? He was the golden goose. In 1998, he had hired Melanie Walker, a recent medical school graduate who is now a neurological surgeon, as a part time scientific consultant. That year, Epstein also purchased his island, little St. Jeff's where he planned to build a research center. Years later, Walker worked for the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation where she was a mutual connection of Gates and Epstein. And also, which is interesting, remember, Melanie Walker was also allegedly the girl at Zorro Ranch with Prince Andrew who was there keeping Prince Andrew happy and keeping him company. Supposedly she asked the staff at Zorro Ranch if they had some sort of tea that would help with Prince Andrew's, you know, Little Willy, if you get my drift. So Melanie Walker has been definitely in the mix in the middle of it. And another tie that binds Epstein and Bill Gates. So again folks, the web is vast. During that time in 2011, Epstein met with Bill Gates, the co founder of Microsoft, and emailed Walker and another colleague afterwards to offer his impressions, according to two sources familiar with the exchange, Gates and Epstein met numerous times thereafter to talk about philanthropy, according to the New York Times. Asked to comment, a Gates spokesperson said the multiple high profile people had suggested Gaetz meet with Epstein and that Gates regrets ever having done so. A spokesperson For Walker declined to comment. Yeah, you're not going to get any comment out of this Melanie Walker lady. She knows, she knows better. She's not going to open herself up to even more. But the FBI should speak with her as well. Again folks, if this was a RICO case like it should be, all of these people would be scooped up with predicates. But the government likes to play touch ass, don't they? They like to mess around when it comes to these rich people, poor people, forget about it. You're going to prison forever. Poor folk hate to tell you, hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if you're poor in this country and you're facing a federal case, you might as well just take the plea deal. If you're rich, on the other hand, well, you can play all these games that we see Maxwell playing, that we saw Epstein play and that the rest of them play. But if you were born with the worst possible sin you could possibly have according to these so called elites, and that's being poor, well, you have no chance, my friend. Former Apple and Microsoft executive Linda Stone knew Epstein at least as far back as the mid-90s when he hosted dinners for scientists at his New York home. In early 2000s, she worked with him to organize a scientific symposium in the US Virgin Islands. Years later, Stone introduced Epstein to Joy Ito, then The director of MIT's Media labor and MIT's investigation later found while Stone, Ito and Epstein were attending a TED conference in California in 2013, Stone wrote in an email with the subject line Jeff Joy and one line of body text Intro. Ito told MIT's investigators that he and Epstein then met in a hallway at the conference. So these TED talks too are another thing that cracked me up. People act like these TED talks are like this great thing of these great minds of science. Yeah, right. They're all Jeffrey Epstein's friends giving these TED talks all the time. So you can miss me with that bullshit too. Now I know a lot of those TED talks are interesting, no doubt about it, but all of these scientists and these academics running around that were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein that still think that people are buying their bs, it's almost laughable at this point. The next month, when Ito faced internal pushback about the Media Lab accepting money from Epstein, Ito wrote to one colleague, Epstein has a tainted past, but Linda assures me that he's awesome. Oh, well, in that case, must be a great guy. Want you to meet my friend. John Wayne Gacy has a tainted past, but I assure you he's A great guy. What sort of wild ass world broken simulation are we living in? He later emailed Stone for her advice about how to handle the pushback. Her response, as quoted in the MIT investigation, noted that Epstein had given money to Harvard and to science and technology causes. Good to show that list, she wrote. Between 2013 and 2017, Epstein donated $525,000 to Media Lab, according to MIT. In 2019, Ito apologized for accepting the donations and resigned. Stone declined to comment. So basically what she's saying is to get ahead of all of this, just point out all of the other scumbags that took money from him. That's like being caught up by the feds and you're like a drug dealer and you start snitching on your rivals. Oh, dude, over at the, in the plaza over in tj, this is where you can find him. And this dude over here. I mean, really, here's an idea. Don't accept money from a scumbag and you won't have to come up with excuses to massage it. Members of the media too, played a role in softening Epstein's image. In 2003, journalist Vicky Ward. Bleh, barf bag, please. Planned to report in Vanity Fair that Epstein had sexually assaulted Maria Farmer, the woman who worked as a greeter for Epstein, along with her sister Annie. And of course, she didn't completely left Maria out to dry. Left her swinging in the wind just like another piece of garbage from the, the so called elite. That's how they, that's how they act, right? You're not part of the crew. They don't care about you. You can't do anything for them. Epstein, on the other hand, well, he can help them move further in their career. And that's, that's it right there in black and white. It's not any harder than that, folks. That's what it is. These people sacrifice their integrity in hopes of upward mobility. The magazine's editor, Graydon Carter, facing pressure from Epstein, decided against publishing the Farmer's account. He later said Ward lacked sufficient sourcing. The resulting article, titled the Talented Mr. Epstein, focused instead on Epstein's lavish lifestyle and mysterious wealth. Ward publicly has blamed Carter for the omission. But eight years after the article's publication, she wrote a soft focus blog post about Maxwell and Epstein that has gotten less attention. And look, Vicky Ward is a scumbag. Point blank period. That's certainly my opinion. Another grifter, another person who's looking to accelerate her career. Another person who didn't care about the real story here. And as a journalist, if your editor kills a story like that, you. You don't pull the end around on him and go somewhere else. You don't think somebody else would pick that piece up, so don't. As far as you want to blame the editor, that's fine. He shares some of the blame, right? But it comes down to Vicky Ward not having the courage, having a spaghetti noodle as a spine in the Post, which has been taken down, but it's still findable online. Ward described not knowing quite whom to believe while reporting the article in 2003 and offered an updated assessment of Maxwell and Epstein, who she kept running into at parties in the years after the story ran. Oh, yeah, running into. Let's just be honest and frank. You were friendly with them. You and Maxwell were buddies, so you were trying to help refurbish her image. Vicki Ward. And the fact that you're still working and running around like you're some kind of great journalist is a joke, but it doesn't shock me. Your whole industry journalism, and I say that with quotes, folks, air quotes, is a dumpster fire full of cowards and snakes. Maxwell Ward wrote, was always the most interesting, the most vivacious, the most unusual person in any room and. And the biggest scumbag. Unless Epstein was in the room. Right? Can't leave that out. Vicky Ward, with all of your glowing words for her. I've spent hours talking to her about the third world at a bar until 2am she is as passionate as she is knowledgeable. She is curious. Oh, yeah, Passionate and knowledgeable. She's passionate about going to the Third World to find some girls to bring for Epstein to abuse, probably. What do you mean? Passionate about what? Not fixing anything? Not riding to anyone's rescue on her horse dressed in white armor. This is a lady that only knows destruction and all of this other bullshit. Her philanthropy and her works with Terra Maw were all a cover for her disgusting behavior. That is my opinion. As for Epstein, who was a registered sex offender at the time, Ward referred to the only felony as sexual peccadillos. She openly subscribed to the idea that Epstein's wealth had sustained him for years and would continue to. In this city, money makes up for all sorts of blemishes. Well, that's about the only real thing she said, right? The only true thing she said. And calling what Epstein did sexual peccadillos. That's what it was to abuse all of them little girls. That's what you think that is Vicki Ward again, how Is this lady writing for any of these publications and the ones that she is writing for? You should really take note of that and realize the sort of people that those companies employ. It really should reflect on them. Asked to comment, Ward told Politico that the blog post has my byline, but was commissioned and edited and published by Vanity Fair. She's such a liar. She just blames everybody else. Vicky Ward, I'm calling you a liar. That's what I think my opinion is. You're a liar, you're a snake, and you shouldn't make $1 off of this case. Any money you make should be donated. If she would have wrote the real truth about Epstein back then, how much of this could have been stopped? So how is it that she still has a job? Go to your job today and F up, folks. Royally. Go screw up real bad and see if you still have a job waiting for you tomorrow. It also appeared on Ward's personal website, which she said automatically pulled the text from Vanity Fair. Ward said she did not write or approve of the phrase sexual peccadilloes. Never her right. It's always the editor. It's always Graydon Carter. It's always somebody else. Guess what, Vicky Ward, it's you. Okay? Take a good long, hard look in the mirror and understand that you are part of the problem and not part of the solution. The fact that I, an untrained knucklehead, has to sit here and call you out, should tell the story. It's a joke that these so called intelligent college trained journalists still have jobs. Asked to clarify, she said she would explain further in my own narrative in an upcoming podcast and documentary. Oh, of course, of course. Why wouldn't she create a podcast and a new documentary to get rich off of this shit? It is all absurd from the bottom up. All of these people rolling in the cash, raking it in, swimming around in it like Scrooge McDuck, as the survivors are still getting hosed by the compensation fund or by Epstein's estate. Vicky Ward, on the other hand, she's eating Escart Go and caviar and living that high life. I understand the optics of subsequent events and I absolutely understand why Maria feels as she does towards me. Ward added, it is a source of great personal sorrow. I think she is a woman of remarkable courage. Yeah, you're not though, Vicky Ward. You're a coward. A chump. That's what you are. You don't care about these survivors. You don't care about MeToo. You care about Mobile Upward Advancement and getting there is all that matters. If you have to shit on people like Maria Farmer and Annie Farmer, you'll do it. If you have to shit on the rest of these survivors, you'll do that too. There is nothing that you will not do to obtain your goals of professionalism. It's such a disgusting, disgusting thing to witness. At what point do you say enough is enough? At what point do you say I'm not running cover for these pieces of shit anymore. You can't be making that much money. Vicky Ward. But once again, another one of these so called journalists is riding shotgun with Maxwell and Epstein. Farmer, who had placed her trust in Vanity Fair to tell her story, has not forgotten Ward's actions. Ward befriended the monsters. Farmer told me. I will never forgive her. And you shouldn't. Nobody should. Vicky Ward shouldn't be writing. The rest of these people that are involved with Epstein should be brought in for questioning. And this whole entire decades long affairs needs to have a stamp put on it. Trials, convictions and long jail sentences for everybody that participated. Alright folks, that's gonna do it for this part of the story. Part six of the Women who Enabled Jeffrey Epstein by Tara Palmer. Spice up here, Happy Hu and welcome to the program. So for the past six days we have been pounding out the Tara Palmeri article, the Women who Enabled Jeffrey Epstein. Up to this point there is six segments and today will be the final segment bringing the total to 7 parts to complete the series. This is one of the better articles that has been put out as far as the Epstein case goes. Tara lays out pretty much the whole situation from a perspective that people who have not been following the case perhaps can understand, can sink their teeth into. And I think that's a very important aspect when we're talking about situation such as this. It shouldn't be a scratch, the surf kind of surface kind of thing. It should be an, you know, an extensive look at what went on. All of the players surrounding the situation, the people involved, the, the, the associates, the lieutenants, the co conspirators, all of these people should be put on blast. And we all know that the legacy media has not done their job when it comes to doing that. And it's not just happening, you know, oh, just happened once. It's been happening for decades with this case and others. But this case specifically, it's such a complex case that there should be a couple of hours of programming on Rachel Maddow. Where's Rachel Maddow in all of this? You know, I always hear about how great of A person Rachel Maddow is. Where is she? Where's that dickhead Sean Hannity? Nowhere to be found, huh? You see, none of these people in the legacy media are willing to take the deep dive. None of these people in the legacy media are willing to put it on the line like someone like Tara Palmeri is. And I think that this article that she put out in Politico was a very, very, very good way to wrap everything up and put a bow on it and present it to people who might not really grasp what went on here. Most people think that this is just your typical case of rich man abused a couple of girls, and that's that, because that's the way it's been portrayed for the most part. Right? But it's much deeper than that. It goes much further than that. It's not some wild conspiracy theory. This is a criminal conspiracy that was global, transcontinental, and it was vast. The network was vast. And for anybody to think that this was the only network such as this and that this is still not going on. Well, it is. And that's why I believe it's integral that justice is served here. And it's a heaping, steaming hot pile of shit for those who are getting the justice served to them. You have to make a mark, have to make a. An example of people, right? You have to make an example of the people involved in things like this or people are going to continue to do it. So I think the perfect time to do that, the perfect time to make an example of people is right now. All of them, Epstein, all of these associates, Maxwell, everybody caught up in a gigantic RICO case. That's what they all deserve. But for some reason, not even the lowly guards are facing criminal prosecution anymore. So right back to the starting point. At least this time, though, however, Maxwell's behind bars. I guess that's something to hang the hat on, right? But what about all of the other people discussed in this article? What about all of the assistants? What about all the enablers? What about the groomers? What about the recruiters? What about all of the scions of business and the political world? Are they ever going to be held accountable for their nonsense? Are they ever going to be held accountable for their crimes? Certainly doesn't look that way, but at least somebody gives a damn. And that somebody is Tara Palmeri. And you can tell by this article, with the way she went hard, she didn't avoid anything or tiptoe around anything. And there needs to be a lot more of that real journalism. Not worried about your faves, not worried about political tribalism. None of that shit. Oh, this might make my candidate look bad. Who cares? Your job as a reporter is to report the story, not worry about if one candidate or the other looks bad or if one political party or the other looks bad. And they've forgotten all about that. They act as, you know, the propaganda arm, the elite media for the other elites. And that goes for everybody, all of them. Right. It's such a. Such a joke to watch the way the media conducts itself. And then they wonder why nobody trusts them. Well, you've been lying to people. You've been gaslighting people. And remember, lies of omission are still lies. So with that said, we're gonna jump back into this political article and wrap it up. This article was authored by Tara Palmeri, the man at the center of it all. One thing that has always struck me about Epstein is that people who knew him well say he wasn't that charming. Yeah, no shit. I didn't know him well, and I could tell you he wasn't that charming. How long have I been saying that? And I don't think he's as smart as some people try to make him out to be. You know, the people that run around and have to tell you how smart they are usually aren't that smart. Just like the people that run around and act tough and tell you how tough they are. Usually not tough. And the same goes for Epstein. I mean, charming, no. Rich, yes. So you could be not charming. You can be ugly, you could be mean. You can be crude. All of that. As long as you have a couple of fazuls. If you don't have a couple of fazuls. So if Epstein didn't have money, you really think anyone in those elite circles would have spent one single second with his gross, sick ass? Of course they wouldn't. Sure, he was rich and powerful and offered young women with very little, with very little a taste of his lifestyle and a promise to fulfill their dreams. But he didn't have that irresistible cult leader quality. No, everything that he had, the whole situation he had set up, was all pieced together by the intricate, perfectly placed people within his network. And it wasn't just, you know, heaven's gate kind of cult behavior. There was a lot of other things that went into it. People's own ambitions, people's own greed, people's own wants. And Jeffrey Epstein facilitated that with his money, with his connections, with the people he knew. And all of these girls, these lieutenants, these assistants, these people around him benefited from ill gotten gains. But somehow, for some reason, these people have not ever had to face the call of justice. Instead, Epstein had infrastructure. Not just houses and jets, but the people around him. So many of them women who delivered more girls to satiate his sexual desires while giving off the impression that everybody's doing it. So again, it wasn't just that cult like Persona, right? Like Tara's saying right here. It had to do with his money, his connections and the powerful people that he moved in circles with. You know, you walk into somebody's house and they have a picture of a president in that dress painted on their wall. Talk about a major power flex, right? I'm so powerful, I have so much clout that I'm gonna put Bill Clinton in a dress on my wall for everybody to laugh at when they come to my pad. Imagine having that kind of hubris. And then you say to yourself, what makes him so confident in doing something like that? You just decide, one day I'm going to put a picture like that on my wall. What's the backstory behind it? Why was that picture made in the first place? You would think that the media would be a lot more curious about that, but here we are. The perception was critical to Epstein's operation. He wanted everyone around him to appear happy and he wanted the young women to know he was not only rich, but powerful. So he name dropped incessantly. And that's exactly what he did. Jeffrey Epstein was always spreading it around, putting a little earworm in everybody's ear about how powerful he was, about how many people he knew, about all of the powerful business leaders he had in his pocket or the scientists. And he let it be known, right? He spread that around. It helped build up this, this fable of Jeffrey Epstein. And then you bring in these young girls who are being trafficked or coming from other countries or broken homes or backgrounds. They see all of this power, this opulence, this wealth, and as Virginia and others have said, this Mary Poppins like figure of Ghislaine Maxwell. And they're comfortable with what's going on. They see the other girls are doing it, so they think it's normalized. And then what happens is you have this large web of just absolutely sick, disgusting behavior by Jeffrey Epstein and his associates. He hung pictures of famous people on his walls. His atmosphere was part of his allure. Without it, he would just be a creep in a mansion. And again, that goes back to that picture, right? Not only the picture of Bill Clinton, but all the other pictures of all the Powerful people on his walls, the pictures of him with Trump, the pictures of him with Prince Andrew, the pict of him with other dignitaries and business leaders. That all lends to that Persona that he was trying to build of a very powerful man who was highly connected, who could be a kingmaker, basically, or make and break your life. Oh, you want to be a model? I got the hook. Oh, you don't do what I want you to do, forget it. I'm not going to put in a good word. In fact, I'm going to ruin you. I'm going to make sure you never work for Victoria's Secret. And those are the kind of flexes that this dude used on a regular basis. That's the kind of thing that he did when maybe some of these girls would be a little hesitant, and he would use his extreme position of power to manipulate the situation, to force girls into doing things that they didn't want to do. And then at the same time, he'd have his assistants, Kellen and the rest of them, pay these girls like they were prostitutes in order to give him that cover story later on down the road if he got popped. And, boy, it all worked out perfectly for him, didn't it? But he didn't never. He never expected somebody like Virginia or Courtney or Maria or Annie or any of the other survivors to snatch the narrative and take it directly to the people. They never expected that. They never factored that in. And once it happened, they've been on their back foot. They've been on their heels for the whole entire time since. If the prosecution really had any sort of steel in its spine, they would have had all of these people rounded up and they would have made a serious, serious point in destroying everybody who was involved. But it sure seems to me that it's meet the new boss, same as the old boss. And you mean to tell me you have more confidence in Merrick Garland than Barr? Why, I don't have confidence in any of these people. And until Merrick Garland puts up, he should probably shut up. And maybe that's why so many women look the other way. The teenage survivors took their cues from the beautiful women Epstein employed, who kept up the appearance of a world of wealth and play. Of course, that's exactly what it was, right? Look, we're human beings are a very monkey see, monkey do kind of race, right? We ape things all the time, from the time we're children all the way till the time we're adults. And you see this sort of situation occurring and all of these other People just going about their daily life, everything normalized. Then you say to yourself, as somebody who's coming from a different scene, well, shit, what do I know? I've never been around these people. Maybe this is the way things go. And then if everybody else is doing it and it's normal behavior, it doesn't seem so foreign to you, right? It doesn't seem like something that's so out of bounds because, hell, everybody's doing it. The sense of normalization when rippled outward to society at large, where more powerful women failed to call out Epstein's behavior or downplayed it, whether because of outside pressure or their own blind spots. So the myth of Epstein's world persisted while the real man at the center of it all kept abusing. And it's really the saddest part of all of this is that it could have been stopped, right? All of these people that were around him, all of these rich people that were around him, all of these super powerful people around him, they could have stopped it, but instead they went to his island instead, they went to his townhouse for a dinner to hang out with Andrew. So always remember that when these people get on their soapbox, when. When these people get on their ivory tower and start shouting down at you, remember who was breaking bread with Jeffrey Epstein. For many years, Epstein survivors cries for help were never heard. As young women, they weren't taken seriously. The power imbalance between the perpetrator and the survivors was hardly taken into consideration. Attitudes were so different back then that Epstein pleaded guilty to soliciting a minor for prostitution, as if a minor could be a prostitute. That language alone silenced survivors like wild, who heard the word prostitute and thought that she was guilty, a criminal. And that's exactly what they wanted to do, right? They wanted to use that kind of language, that explosive language to set these girls up like they were the criminals, like they did something wrong. The ultimate gaslighting by narcissists. You know, it's like being in that relationship where you have a boyfriend or a girlfriend, they continuously gaslight you like everything is your fault. And before you know it, you think everything's your fault. You're like, oh, shit, I'm bad. I'm a horrible partner. And there's a lot of people that manipulate situations like that. There's a lot of crafty sobs with their tongue. And it was certainly like that over here at Epstein's place. The lawyers especially were able to set it up as if these girls were actual prostitutes because of a few MySpace posts. It's one of the things in this case that really launches me into orbit to try and set those girls up like they're prostitutes over social media posts. And let's be very honest, come on, maybe there's a few of you out there, right? We've talked about this. That didn't get down when you were teenagers. Didn't party, didn't have some drinks. Maybe there's some of you out there, certainly not me. I was wilding the hell out. Hell, we were getting mad dog 2020s pouring them in slurpees and bringing them to class. Folk teenagers do dumb shit. That doesn't mean that they should be abused and be part of a trafficking network of some sick ass 50 plus year old pedophile. I mean really, it's an absolute joke that that was able to occur. And it's a bigger joke that the FDLE didn't find anything wrong with that. Today, Florida law acknowledges that minors can't consent to prostitution. And now more and more women around Epstein are seeking the justice they have been denied. Taking agency to expose Epstein and his enablers. Virginia Roberts, who has been called a liar by some of the most powerful people and institutions in the world, including Buckingham palace, has spent time on the road trying to get witnesses to verify her accounts. And not only that, but Virginia has been going hard on these dudes forever on social media, calling them out, begging for justice basically. And it's fallen on deaf ears for the most part. Now don't get me wrong, the citizens are concerned, the actual people are concerned, but what about our politicians? What about the people in power that are supposed to protect people like Virginia that failed her? When are they going to step up to the plate folk? Courtney Wilde has spent more than a decade fighting to overturn Epstein's non prosecution agreement and to strengthen the law for survivors rights. Marjik Shartuni decided to track down the women who brought her to Epstein. And that's how I learned of o myself and is helping other survivors to do the same. She's already helped one other survivor and what she's doing is incredible. Right, look to reach out to others who have experienced the same pain and heartache and trauma that you have suffered. And to offer your help is one of the most noblest things that you can possibly do. You've been there, you've done that, you've went through the trials and tribulations and as somebody who has come out on the other side like she has to reach out a helping hand to somebody else, it really just shows you the sort of character that she possesses, the sort of person that she is. Yet there is still so much about Epstein's world that hasn't been exposed. And the women who ultimately know the most are the ones who are closest to him. If Epstein's house of cards was built by women, that means it's also women who can reveal the true extent of his crimes. And that's for sure. These ladies that are still out there that had worked for him, that are saying they're victims now, where were you when he was arrested the first time? Why weren't you at the forefront telling the authorities what you knew? But they didn't do that. They didn't do that. Instead, they took their ill gotten gains, their launch into the social stratosphere and they parlayed it into a good life. While these survivors, on the other hand, continued to struggle to scrape and to try to just get by. O, to her credit, ultimately helped to confirm Shartouni's allegations of abuse by Epstein. Despite their dispute about what happened 20 years ago. Oh is a witness who plays Chartuni and Epstein in the same room together, which she says she attested to in an affidavit submitted as part of Chartuni's case for compensation. Having spent more than a year in Epstein's orbit, OH presumably could be a valuable witness for investigations into Maxwell and others too. So could plenty of other women. Yet very few have been willing to come forward. And it's crazy to think that even though he's dead, with Maxwell on trial, Brunel hemmed up in France, that people are still scared to come forward. It just shows you how deep his ties went, how many people he was connected to, and how powerful the circle he ran in was. Even in death, people are scared to come forward. To me, the fact that so many women know so much more, yet have stayed silent might be the most depressing part of this story. Shartouni, a mother of two in Washington State, understands the power of testimony like O's. She sees it as a way not just to hold others accountable, but also to find closure. She told me. This is a service that we can all provide for each other. Shartouni said it's not just to, you know, be vindictive and like, call people out for the things they did. It's also, she said, to heal. And folks, that concludes our coverage of the women who enabled Jeffrey Epstein. By Tara Palmeri. It's been quite the ride here the last seven days or so covering this article, and it's refreshing to finally see somebody in the legacy media, or, you know, at least connected to the legacy media. Put pen to paper and really get into it a little bit. Really open the curtain a little bit. Show what's going on a little bit. Not just a four paragraph article, but a real article that gets down into the weeds. So for that, Tara Palmeri should certainly get a tip of the cap. All right, everybody, in exactly one week, my new podcast is launching Life is a Mosh Pit where we're gonna be exploring all of the headlines every single day from the news, as well as other stuff. I'm gonna be going into some serious topics we're gonna have people on. We're gonna talk about things like deep space exploration and we're gonna talk about goofy stuff too, like pop culture, we're gonna talk about reality tv. And my girlfriend Carrie is also going to be joining me on the podcast when we talk about pop culture, when we talk about reality tv, when we talk about things like that. Because she knows a lot more about it than I do. So I'm really excited. It's gonna be a daily show like the Jeffrey Epstein Show. We're going to yank articles from the news. We're going to talk about articles that are being buried. We're going to talk about geopolitics. We're going to dive into it all, folks. I'm also going to have a segment called that's Wild where I pull an article, a story from around the world that is just hard to believe that it's even real. So that's gonna be starting June 1st. We're gonna have that. We're still gonna have this Jeffrey Epstein show at least one episode a day. We're gonna have the daily news updates, couple episodes a day probably on that new, the new program. And we're gonna be off and running, folks. The first season air quotes for the new podcast as well. Life is a Mosh Pit will be based on the war on drugs, probably, probably three to four parts. And then I plan on doing something like that once a month or so where we do a deep dive into a topic that's interesting that I feel like is not getting enough coverage or I don't feel like it's getting the proper coverage. We'll dive right into that and we'll break it down, we'll see what's what. I also want to start pulling articles that are just insanely, insanely gaslighting type of material and we'll discuss that stuff as well. But there's going to be a lot of guests on the show. Like I was saying, we're going to talk about all kinds of things, folks. The homelessness issue, we're going to talk about live entertainment. We're going to. I'm going to have some people on that, you know, work here in Vegas. I got wild stories about what happens in the clubs. All sorts of crazy, really, really cool stuff coming up for you folks that I think you're going to really enjoy. So June 1st, mark it on your calendars. I'll make sure all the links are posted here. And for the next week, I'll make sure that, you know, I'm keeping you guys up to date about what to expect because I've had a lot of emails in regards to this. And it's gonna be a fun time, folks. We're gonna really branch out and talk about a lot of other things. You know, we spent a lot of time here talking about Jeffrey Epstein and there are, you know, other things going on in the world. So we're going to be branching out after roughly two years covering this, and we're gonna. We're gonna really dip our toes in and see what's going on around the world. All right, everybody, if you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A p u c c I. @protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter at bo-c a p u c C I. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. All right, everybody, I will be back tomorrow and we will pick up where we left off. Happy holidays.