Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein And The Social Climb Enabled By Prince Andrew (8/2/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Mega Edition – Jeffrey Epstein and the Social Climb Enabled by Prince Andrew

Host: Bobby Capucci

Date: August 2, 2026

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Episode Overview

This episode of The Epstein Chronicles delves into the nature and extent of Prince Andrew's role in facilitating Jeffrey Epstein’s ascent into high society and the impunity it afforded him and his co-conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. Host Bobby Capucci examines media coverage, recent documentaries, and firsthand accounts from society insiders and survivors, highlighting the cultural and systemic factors that enabled Epstein’s crimes and allowed elite enablers to evade scrutiny for years. Throughout, Capucci calls attention to complicity, willful ignorance, and the ongoing push for accountability—especially for figures like Prince Andrew who continue to evade legal consequences.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. The Prince Andrew-Maxwell-Epstein Nexus

(00:16–06:33)

• Mutual Benefit:

  • Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell’s relationship was crucial for Epstein’s ascent. “If it wasn’t for Ghislaine Maxwell, mind you, Epstein would have never had a relationship with Prince Andrew… And Prince Andrew, on the other hand, wouldn’t have had access to Jeffrey Epstein’s millions… So you see how this was a rub your back and I’ll massage yours kind of relationship.” (00:24 – Capucci)

• Veneer of Respectability:

  • Association with Prince Andrew and the Royals cloaked Epstein and Maxwell with legitimacy in the eyes of society. This “build[s] a facade around Maxwell and Epstein where people think that they’re solid folks, that they’re respectable people.” (01:00 – Capucci)

• Lack of Due Diligence:

  • Capucci notes, sarcastically, that the so-called elites act as “the den of vipers and morons… It’s amazing how they have so much power and so much wealth, because they’re pretty stupid people.” (02:14 – Capucci)

• Epstein Amnesia:

  • On enablers now denying past relationships: “The people that were once hanging out with him will tell you, oh, I had no idea who Jeffrey Epstein was… And then when their bullshit is called to the carpet, it’s a whole different story.” (02:38 – Capucci)

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2. Media Coverage: House of Maxwell & Social Climbing

(06:33–10:54; 11:11–17:35)

• Columnist on Maxwell’s Strategy:

  • Corey Hay, New York society columnist, describes Maxwell as the ultimate connector: “She would go out with an invisible butterfly net into the social scenes of New York and London to capture the beautiful people.” (08:17 – Capucci quoting Hay)

• Royal Approval as Social Capital:

  • “Her big card was Prince Andrew. That was her main calling card. Everywhere she went, Prince Andrew this... That’s what elevated her.” (12:20 – Capucci)

• Willful Ignorance in High Society:

  • Skepticism toward society journalists who claim naivete: “How much of it is willful ignorance? … You mean to tell me seeing Epstein and the rest of these people with young girls or all over them all the time… and that they didn’t know anything?” (13:25 – Capucci)

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3. Accounts from Insiders

(17:35–21:25)

• Ghislaine’s Social Acumen vs. Epstein’s Approach:

  • “She had this invisible butterfly net… She had this posh accent. She was well educated, witty, fun… She deliberately set out to make friends with important people and used her royal Rolodex to do that.” (17:35 – Capucci quoting Hay)
  • Maxwell was the social secretary; Epstein “was shy… Ghislaine filed the idea of being his social director.” (18:20 – Capucci)

• Crisis Management Post-Conviction:

  • “Jeffrey Epstein calls me… wanted crisis management… My office freaked out. It was embarrassing to even get the call.” (19:24 – Capucci quoting Hay)

  • Epstein’s request: “How to avoid having ‘pedophile billionaire’ engraved on my tombstone? …Well, here’s one good way not to have that on your tombstone—don’t molest any kids. Don’t be a pedophile.” (20:39 – Capucci)

• The Vatican Connection:

  • Hay’s PR suggestion: meet the Pope for image rehab. Shocked to learn they "had already received private audiences with John Paul II at the Vatican in 2003.” (21:41 – Capucci)

• Charitable Whitewashing:

  • Maxwell’s Terramar Project: started as a PR shield, not altruism—“what she was really helping was herself.” (22:16 – Capucci)

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4. Virginia Roberts' Account and Prince Andrew’s Denials

(25:25–33:18)

• The Guessing Game and Abuse Allegation:

  • Virginia Roberts recounts Andrew and Maxwell guessing her age before Andrew compared her to his own daughters and abused her—“not the prince from the fairy tale stories you read.” (30:37 – Roberts via Capucci)

• Denials and Gaslighting:

  • Andrew’s repeated denials—"He would have you believe his story rather than your own eyes.” (29:52 – Capucci)

  • Capucci delivers a memorable commentary:

    “These people think their power, their station, makes it so that we would just believe what they have to say rather than believe our own eyes, as if we were all on a mushroom-induced trip and they're the only ones who are sober with clarity.” (30:08)

• Survivors' Voices Growing Louder:

  • On the new era of survivor solidarity: “For too long, people like this have been able to operate in the shadows… The curtain is being pulled back, and people are starting to understand just exactly what was going on.” (27:17 – Capucci & Commentator)

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5. Enablers & The Royal Circle

(33:50–38:10)

• Escapism as Excuse:

  • Capucci rejects Lady Victoria Hervey’s claim that Epstein offered Andrew “escapism”:

    “He had the ability to do whatever he wanted… Instead, he chose to hang out with creepy ass, pervy ass, rapey ass Jeffrey Epstein. Ok? His choice, nobody else’s.” (34:16 – Capucci)

• Andrew’s Choices:

  • “Prince Andrew did not have to stay with Jeffrey Pervy ass Epstein… He chose to do so even after he said he was coming over here to break up with Epstein.” (36:43 – Capucci)

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6. Legal Fallout & Accountability

(38:10–End)

• Pending Prosecutions:

  • Maxwell’s upcoming trial—Capucci notes more charges and a likely superseded indictment:

    “There is zero doubt in my mind… the 500 pound gorilla in the room is RICO and that is the tool… that must be used.” (38:15 – Commentator)

• Epstein’s Charges Would Have Expanded:

  • “If Epstein didn’t die in jail… we would have already been looking at a RICO case.” (39:20 – Commentator)

• Prison Conditions and Legal Maneuvering:

  • Maxwell complaining about jail surveillance—“You lost your ability for consent the second you got arrested. And furthermore, how does it feel to have things done to you without your consent?” (40:06 – Commentator)

• The Need for Justice:

  • Closing call-to-arms:

    “We are now paying attention. The worst thing for these people… was the fact that they locked people like me in my house for four months. We have had nothing to do but spend time digging into cases like this. And… what we have found… is one of the biggest, most far ranging criminal conspiracies that I have ever seen.” (41:38 – Commentator)

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• On Elite Complicity:

  “Operate in the open. And that’s basically what these people were doing… How brazen was it? What were the conversations like at the dinner parties?”
  (03:00 – Capucci)

• On Crisis Management Advice:

  “How to avoid having ‘pedophile billionaire’ engraved on my tombstone? …Well, here’s one good way not to have that on your tombstone—don’t molest any kids. Don’t be a pedophile.”
  (20:41 – Capucci)

• On Denial and Gaslighting:

  “He would have you believe his story rather than your own eyes… as if we were all on a mushroom-induced trip and they’re the only ones who are sober with clarity.”
  (30:08 – Capucci)

• On Prince Andrew’s “Escapism”:

  “He had the ability to do whatever he wanted… Instead, he chose to hang out with creepy ass, pervy ass, rapey ass Jeffrey Epstein. Ok? His choice, nobody else’s.”
  (34:16 – Capucci)

• On Survivor Testimony:

  “Now… their voice is not just a solo voice in the forest anymore. Their voice is being amplified.”
  (27:17 – Commentator)

• On Societal Indifference:

  “If you have money, you can get an audience with the Pope. If you’re poor, you can’t get an audience with him.”
  (21:41 – Capucci)

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Key Timestamps

• 00:16–06:33 — Introduction, the significance of Andrew-Maxwell-Epstein dynamics
• 06:33–10:54, 11:11–17:35 — House of Maxwell, society columnists' perspective, Maxwell’s social tactics
• 17:35–21:25 — Insider accounts: Maxwell’s networking skills, Epstein’s 2008 PR crisis, Vatican audience
• 22:16–25:25 — Charitable whitewashing, Terramar Project, charity as PR
• 25:25–33:18 — Virginia Roberts’ allegations, Andrew’s denials, survivor amplification
• 33:50–38:10 — Excuses for Andrew, choices made, media coverage
• 38:10–41:38 — Maxwell’s legal battles, pending indictments, call for accountability
• 41:38–end — Closing remarks, appeal for continued public vigilance

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Takeaway

This episode makes clear that Prince Andrew did not just casually know Jeffrey Epstein—he was a key enabler and social amplifier for Epstein and Maxwell, whose royal connections sheltered their criminal activities. The systemic failures and willful blindness of media, high society, and global elites allowed Epstein’s abuses to continue for decades. Capucci demands ongoing scrutiny and accountability—not just for those directly accused, but for the enablers and institutions who helped them thrive.

Contact:
Bobby Capucci – [e-mail]
Twitter: @BobbyCapucci

Referenced Documentaries:

• House of Maxwell (BBC)
• Surviving Jeffrey Epstein (Crime Investigation Channel – Airs August 25 & 26)

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For ongoing coverage and episode links, see episode notes.

Transcript

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What's up everyone and welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell were obviously very, very close. And we have pointed out many, many times in the past that the relationship between Ghislaine Maxwell and Prince Andrew was very, very beneficial, not only to Maxwell, but to Jeffrey Epstein as well. Now, if it wasn't for Ghislaine Maxwell, mind you, Epstein would have never had a relationship with Prince Andrew. And Prince Andrew, on the other hand, wouldn't have had access to to Jeffrey Epstein's millions, wouldn't have had access to all of the disgustingness of Epstein's world. So you see how this was a rub your back and I'll massage yours kind of relationship. Now what also occurred was the credibility that Maxwell and Epstein obtained from their relationship with Prince Andrew. People would think, hey, if the Prince is hanging out with these two, they must be all right. They must have the Queen stamp of approval, right? The Queen must be okay with it or else why would this dude be hanging out with them? So what that does is it helps refurbish and build a facade around Maxwell and Epstein where people think that they're solid folks, that they're respectable people. Now obviously you have to do your own due diligence about the people you're spending time with, especially when you're at this level of power, because you're asking for big trouble. If you hang out with a guy like Jeffrey Epstein or if you hang out with somebody like Ghislaine Maxwell, you are just asking for trouble. So you can't just rely on, you know, oh well, they have a relationship with so and so, so they must be good because that certainly is not the proper way to go about vetting people. Especially when we're talking about the upper crust, the so called elite, the den of vipers and morons, because that's what they really are when you break it all down, right? Absolute morons. It's amazing how they have so much power and so much wealth, because they're pretty stupid people. When you take, take a look at all of the scenarios we've been looking at, you mean to tell me Les Wexner, Mr. Moneybags himself, is so stupid that he could be exploited to the tune of 47 million from Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, okay. I thought you were the smartest man in the room, Les. What about good old Leon Black? I'm not gonna go into it, but you get my meaning here, right? For the people that want to tell you that they're the smartest people in the room all the time, they sure come off as as absolute morons. But there is a serious case of Epstein amnesia and there is no doubt about that. The people that were once hanging out with him will tell you, oh, I had no idea who Jeffrey Epstein was. I never spent any time with him. And then when they're called out and their bullshit is called to the carpet, it's a whole different story. Oh, well, I didn't really know him. Oh, I only met him one time. But before you told us you had never met him before or you very shortly had a brief handshake with him. Kind of like the whole Bill Gates scenario, right? Remember when that was all coming out, how people were like, oh, this is a conspiracy theory. Bill Gates didn't have anything really to do with Jeffrey Epstein. They had one meeting. Yeah, well, where are we now? Right, and take a look at where we are now and think about where we were as far as that whole scenario coming forward and see just how much of a conspiracy theory it really was. Right. And that's a whole lot of these cases within the Epstein atmosphere. It all sounds hella absurd. It all sounds like it's fake and unreal, like how could any of this really happen? But it is one of the best defenses, right? Operate in the open. And that's basically what these people were doing. They were operating with how many of these other elites knowing about it? How brazen was it? What were the conversations like at the dinner parties? You really mean to tell me this wasn't a point of conversation, A topic of interest? All of these guys, the scientists and the rest of them were just going to this island to talk about math. Okay, sure, I believe you. Alright, so today we have another article from the Daily Mail who is continuing with their fantastic coverage here of Maxwell and this new documentary, House of Maxwell. The headline of this article is Prince Andrew's friendship gave Ghislaine Maxwell a of the near of respectability and the appearance of the Queen's approval within New York society. Columnist claims that was always the plan, wasn't it? Always the plan. Jeffrey Epstein needed that so badly to be accepted, to be ushered in to those levels of power. Because unless you have Old money, you're not welcome. New money is laughable to them. You need to be old money. And from the power structure that makes up New York, it's no different than London. I mean, all New York really is a junior London, right? Let's be real. Both places love to wash money and both places are very similar with the upper crust. This article was authored by Monica Greep. Prince Andrew's friendship with Ghislaine Maxwell gave her a veneer of respectability and royal approval in the lead social circles, A society columnist has claimed. So it's a pretty much ape society, right? They just ape it. The higher ups, the so called elite. If one person is accepted by this one, then everybody accepts them and it's all good.

[Commentator/Critic]

So because

[Bobby Capucci]

Jeffrey Epstein was friendly with Maxwell, who was friends with the Prince, that gave Epstein, you know, that bit of push that he needed. Oh well, how bad could this guy be? He's hanging out with the Queen's son, for God's sakes. But in reality, we all know the sort of monster Jeffrey Epstein was. And all this did was give them plausible deniability when they ended up getting caught. And we've seen that over and over. How many of them have said, well, so and so was hanging out with Epstein and this one was there and that one was there. Meanwhile, they don't tell you that those very same people that they're mentioning, who are supposedly character building points of conversation for these guys in their explanation here, all of them are under suspicion or accusations of enabling or taking part in Epstein's escapades as well. So what are you trying to do here? Are you Attila the Hunter trying to pull out Genghis Khan and tell me, hey, this is a good guy, this is solid, you should listen to me because guess what? I am not listening to you. Corey Hay worked as the society columnist for New York's Hamptons and Avenue magazines in the 1990s, where he met Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein at a number of glitzy exclusive parties. Well, that's because they were at the mall, folks. All of those people in New York, all of those loudmouths that hang out up in the Hamptons, all, all of them that get out there and talk about their, for this movement or that movement or they stand up for the small people. Well, remember during the pandemic, how many of them stuck around in the city? That's right, they all split up to the Hamptons, didn't they? Got to get away from the dirty unwashed masses. They can't be part of that. And those are the very same people that were parlaying with Epstein, breaking bread with Epstein, having their daughters call them Uncle Jeffy. He says that Maxwell dealt in the commerce of important people and that she would go out with an invisible butterfly net into the social scenes of New York and London to capture the beautiful people. That all adds up and lines up with everything we've heard. I mean, what did Maria Farmer tell us about her trolling Central Park? So it definitely all lines up. And we know that one of her key roles was. Was to work as the functionary for their social climb. Ghislaine Maxwell put them on her back and climbed that social ladder, the whole organization. It was because of her that they made those inroads. Epstein, that buffoon, could only go so far. I mean, really, who's going to trust this dude if he's like, hey, yeah, come over. I got an opportunity for you. If Maxwell's not involved, if the rest of his lieutenants aren't involved, the women normalizing it, no girl's gonna want to go hang out with this goofball. You guys all seen the way this guy looks? Come on. Speaking in the BBC series House of Maxwell, which premieres tonight, Haigh claimed her relationship with the Duke of York elevated her because it appeared the former socialite, human trafficker, co conspirator, general all around scuzzbag and bipedal serpent had the blessing of the Queen. At this point, I wouldn't doubt if she did. Now, I say that kind of jokingly, but we know that the Queen has been very upfront with her support of Andrew, and one could assume or make the leap if they wanted, that that is implied consent that. That the. The Andrew is not guilty. Right. That the Queen is approving of him still. Now, I don't know if that's her psyche, and if it is, well, she probably should reevaluate. But the thing is this. Prince Andrew and Ghislaine Maxwell in that relationship, it was all leveraged for them to continue with their social climb. And Prince Andrew was happy as hell to go along for the ride as long as he was benefiting, getting girls brought to him in London, getting massage therapists snuck into the Buckingham palace money for him and Fergie, you name it, he was getting it. So he was more than willing and more than happy to come along for the ride.

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Prince Andrew denied being a close friend of convicted sex trafficker Maxwell. And a legal response to Virginia Roberts, to whom he paid £12 million to settle a US civil sexual assault case. Yeah, he never met Maxwell. They were never homies. Maxwell didn't have access to the palace. Maxwell wasn't at Balmoral. Maxwell wasn't, you know, snapped. Hanging out at the palace, none of that ever happened. She was just a, you know, somebody who snuck in. She had such good ninja abilities that she would drop in from the skylight, decked out in a ninja suit with a sword on her back and drop smoke bombs everywhere to cover her tracks. The you talking about you weren't close? If you weren't close, then I'm not a big mouth. Her big card was Prince Andrew. That was her main calling card. Everywhere she went, Prince Andrew this, Prince Andrew that said hey. And yeah, look, do not dispute that because look at what ABC did to keep their access to the royals. The royals were a big ass deal up until this whole entire thing blew up. I remember as a kid growing up, my mom used to love the Royal family and you know, she still follows it a little bit, but this leaves a bad taste in everybody's mouth. And you can't get up here and act like they weren't fixtures at your properties all over the uk. They were, they were everywhere. They were all over you. And there is no doubt in my mind that without the relationship between Andrew and Maxwell, that Epstein wouldn't have been able to manipulate his social climb the way he did. So Andrew is a big time enabler here. And the Queen by extension also played a role. There is no question Prince Andrew elevated Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein. It just gave her this veneer. She's in the Royal Court, she's a friend of the Prince, she has the blessing of the Queen. One would think that, right? And if you were going into business with them and you were one of these naive business people, you would think that those relationships alone are rock solid and enough to situate yourself to a place where you're comfortable making a deal with them or giving them money for something. But really it was all an act. It was all a bit of fakery, right? None of it was real. Their relationship wasn't real. None of it was real. It coated her with a veneer of respectability. But I don't believe the society people I know whose Names I can't even speak because they would kill me. New we just didn't know. People weren't paying attention. See, I don't believe that. It's another out. And a lot of these high society reporters who were covering socialites and the posh folk of the Hamptons, the Vicky Wards of the world. This Mr. Hay. Look, a lot of these guys will tell you, oh, we didn't know anything. But how much of it is willful ignorance? How much is it not wanting to look behind the curtain? You mean to tell me seeing Epstein and the rest of these people with young girls or all over them all the time? And I don't mean just one young girl. Look, if a guy that's Epstein's age, with Epstein's money, gets himself a nice, you know, 22, 23 year old girlfriend, hey, look, that's the way the world goes, right? People like nice, beautiful things. I'm not gonna knock a guy for something like that. Hey, whatever. As long as everybody's consenting. But that's not what we had here. We didn't have a bunch of, you know, 23, 24 year olds. We had girls a lot younger than that and girls that were obviously a lot younger than that. Now, they'll tell you differently. Oh, the girls all looked old. All you have to do is listen to what people say who worked at some of these airports. I know I spoke to people who worked at the airport in New Mexico who talked about how young these girls looked. And we've also heard the same thing in the Virgin Islands and elsewhere. So it's not like it was a big secret. And these reporters and the high life type folk who try and make it out like it was, they. That's bullshit. There is no evidence any other members of the Royal Family had a relationship with Maxwell. And Andrew previously stated that he had let down the Royal Family by maintaining a relationship with Epstein. But not with Maxwell. They were super close. Remember? Remember how close those two were? Photos emerged last year of Epstein and Maxwell spending time at the Queen's Balmoral residence. And reports in 2019 claimed Ghislaine made several secret visits to Buckingham palace to visit Andrew. Just like they were at the White House. So look, it's not like they only had access to Prince Andrew. They had access to American presidents as well. You think that they didn't manipulate and try and leverage those relationships? Considering we know who Maxwell and Epstein were and that they were power brokers, what would be the purpose of having such powerful friends? I'll leave that up to all of you to figure out. Haigh spoke about their relationship in the upcoming documentary House of Maxwell, which charts how Ghislaine Maxwell went from a multi millionaire's daughter to a woman convicted of grooming and trafficking underage girls. The society columnist and PR guru worked as a gossip columnist for the National Enquirer from 1976 to 1983, later writing a monthly society column for Avenue magazine and becoming society editor for Hampton's magazine. Oh, yeah, you're definitely hanging out and rubbing shoulders with the caviar eating groups amongst us. You know, most of us, we, you know, go to a function like this. We look around, we're like, what is wrong with these people? Right? Nobody has any desire, at least I know I don't. And nobody I know has any desire to run around in circles with these weirdos, that's for sure. Now, I'll take their money, but they could keep the rest of the bullshit. Speaking in the documentary, he said her little black book was everything to her. She dealt in the commerce of introductions. She really was a connector. She had this invisible butterfly net and she would go out in the social scene and capture the beautiful people. She had this posh accent.

[Commentator/Critic]

She.

[Bobby Capucci]

She was well educated, she was witty and she was fun. And she deliberately set out to make friends with important people and she used her royal Rolodex to do that 100%. We've established that with the black book. Epstein was not socially driven enough to collect a black book such as that. Sure, some of those people were his friends, but that black book was mainly Maxwell's doing and her collection of. Of rubes and jerks and disgusting deviant. He said that while Ghislaine was performative, Epstein was quiet and shy, and Maxwell acted as a social secretary of sorts for the billionaire pedophile. When Ghislaine Maxwell was in the room, you knew she was there and she wanted you to know she was there. He said she performed. She was on. She was. When she was on, it felt like she was being. Like she was being watched and she wanted to be watched. So she was one of them, right? Had to be the center of attention. The Yippity app or at the party. Everybody has to know of her next move, her next scheme, her next plot. Really what they all were were griffs and scams and ways to snake money from people. But Jeffrey Epstein was another case. He was shy. He didn't really stand out. So Ghislaine filed the idea of being his social director. It was almost like she was his social secretary, Hay, who also runs a public relations firm, says that says that Epstein turned to him for advice following his 2008 conviction for solicitation of prostitution involving a minor. Alright, let's fix that real quick. No such thing as prostitution for a minor. Minors cannot consent. So. So they can't be prostitutes. Jeffrey Epstein calls me. My office freaked out. It was embarrassing to even get the call. Jeffrey wanted crisis management. He wanted advice. So I put on my tie and I trotted over to the house because I wanted to see the house. Oh, well, that's the case.

[Commentator/Critic]

I just, you know, wanted to see the house.

[Bobby Capucci]

So I'm gonna throw on my old tie and head over here. Like I'm going to give you advice. See, I don't believe all of that. I'm guessing this guy probably went over there to give him some advice. This very grand house, supposedly worth $77 million. And there's this very grand foyer. Foyer with a big curving staircase. I did notice throughout the house there were a lot of very heavy velvet drapes. Out walks Jeffrey Hay says he had no intention of representing Epstein and he never paid him for advice. So just another guy who was over there. I just wanted to check it out. I wanted to see what was going on.

[Commentator/Critic]

So what was it like when you

[Bobby Capucci]

were there, Mr. Hay? Did you see anything? Were there any young ladies? There were any visitors hanging out? The PR guru says he asked him how to avoid having pedophile billionaire engraved on my tombstone. Every story starts off with pedophile billionaire Jeffrey Epstein.

[Commentator/Critic]

Well, here's one good way not to

[Bobby Capucci]

have that on your tombstone. Don't molest any kids. Don't be a pedophile. Don't be a sick fuck. Pretty simple, right? Look, life is not that hard. We've discussed this, folks. How many times? Get up, take a shower, clean your room. Don't do methamphetamine. Don't hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. Pretty simple. In some cases, you can't do it said, hey, you simply can't explain Ghislaine or Jeffrey Epstein. No, you can't. There's no amount of explanation. You'd run out of ink. Okay, now not enough ink on this planet to pen an explanation of what Epstein and Maxwell were up to. You cannot explain it away. I don't care if Jesus himself comes

[Commentator/Critic]

back and works for a PR firm.

[Bobby Capucci]

It is not going to happen.

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[Bobby Capucci]

While he never represented Epstein, Hay suggested he meet with the Pope as a way of showing contrition. However, was baffled to discover both Maxwell and the sex offender had already received private audiences with John Paul II at the Vatican in 2003. Why would you be shocked? Why would anyone be shocked? Look, I am someone who grew up as a Roman Catholic, right? I call myself a recovering Catholic nowadays because, well, I haven't been to church and I can't tell you how long. Really not my thing. If that's for somebody to somebody else makes them comfortable and gives them feelings of hope, great. I say go for it. Me, I'm agnostic, but I don't think there is any doubt for anyone paying attention that the Vatican is on some shit. And it's one of the main reasons I would never go back to the church. You mean to tell me that that guy in the goofy hat there in Rome is the voice of God? Yeah. Okay, sorry, I'm gonna have to pass on that. Or maybe I'm gonna need some mushrooms to get down with that, because either way, shit just don't jive with me. And then you look at the way they conduct themselves, and that really doesn't jive with me. You want to help the poor? Open up the vault underneath the Vatican and pass out some of that dough. I said, it starts with really showing contrition, confessing. I said, jeffrey, who better than the highest power on earth in communication with God? Why don't I get you an audience with the Pope? But of course, he's already thought of it years ago. So it's just that easy to get an audience with the Pope. Anyone can just go get an audience with the Pope. A child molester. See how this works, folks. If you have money, you can get an audience with the Pope. If you're poor, you can't get an audience with him. Though it's also obvious how it's such a setup and how these people manipulate every single decision, manipulate every single sector of our lives almost. I said, why don't you give money? There's an arts foundation and people have given away lots and lots of money to whitewash their images. So Ghislaine, of course, started her own charity. As part of their PR charm offensive, Ghislaine launched a marine conservation non Prof. The Terramar project in early 2012. It was potentially, possibly to help the oceans but what she was really helping was herself said hay, well, no shit. Nice to see this man confirm what we've been talking about. How many of these folks wrap themselves in that charitable armor that we talk about and then they expect us not to come down hard on them with the hammer when they get caught up in some shit like this? Well, I have news for you. There is not enough charity work on this planet that can answer for or whitewash Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein or Prince Andrew. All of them are. There's no saving them, right? They're irredeemable and they're just gonna go down in history as that. And Epstein trying to make moves to change what his gravestone would say. Just goes to show you he knew that there was no hope and he knew that the war was over. As far as the narrative in the public space, the question is, when's Prince Andrew going to figure that out? If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter obby Cap Ucci. The link that we discussed can be found in the description box.

[Commentator/Critic]

Our article today is from the Daily Mail headline, Prince Andrew survivor Virginia Roberts says Duke played a guessing game with Ghislaine Maxwell about her age when she was 17 years old before comparing her to his daughters. And this is another thing. I've talked about these six disgusting people, how they always bring their family up like it's some sort of excuse. You see, Dershowitz has done it. You've seen Prince Andrew do it.

[Bobby Capucci]

They all do it.

[Commentator/Critic]

Oh, my family was there. I was with my family.

[Bobby Capucci]

I was with my daughters.

[Commentator/Critic]

I was with. Why would you even bring your family up in a situation like this? You people are such cowards, such non men, that you can't take the heat, you can't stand up on your own, you have to drag your family in. What are you looking for? Sympathy? This article was authored by Luke May, Now known as Virginia Roberts, the Accuser. Excuse me. Virginia Roberts, the Accuser, has spoken out in a documentary series, Surviving Jeffrey Epstein, claiming she met the Queen's second son in London, describing him as an abuser and not the prince from the fairy tale stories you read. And look, this is stuff we've heard before from Virginia, right? But I think it's important that we put an exclamation point on it. I think it's important that we continue to bring it up. And I think it's also important that we continue to keep the pressure on the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family. This dude thinks he's going to get away with his actions. He thinks that he's going to be

[Bobby Capucci]

able to just avoid all of this

[Commentator/Critic]

and have it all go away. Like Virginia's ever going to stop pursuing justice at this point. Folks, I have news for you. She is not.

[Bobby Capucci]

She is not pursuing.

[Commentator/Critic]

She is not going to stop. She feels like this is what she needs to do, at least from where I'm sitting. Right. I don't, you know, I don't know, personally, I've never talked to her about it, but just from the way she conducts herself and the, the, the tweets, et cetera, et cetera, she's not going to let this go, and she shouldn't. For too long, people like this have been able to operate in the shadows, to operate without anybody saying anything, and to operate within a network of other very powerful people. And now that's getting blown apart. The light is getting drawn onto it. The curtain is getting pulled back, and people are starting to understand just exactly what was going on. And for people like Virginia and Maria and Annie and Sarah and Courtney and the rest of the survivors, they're starting to understand as well that their voice is not just a solo voice in the forest anymore. Their voice is being amplified. Their story is being told, and the narrative is being changed. Ms. Roberts, who says she was trafficked by pedophile financier Epstein, alleges the Duke had sex with her on three separate occasions, including when she was 17, still a minor under US law, Andrew has categorically denied he has had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Ms. Roberts. See, for me.

[Bobby Capucci]

Don't.

[Commentator/Critic]

It's. The fact that she's underage is gross on its face. Right? That is just unacceptable. We're not Talking about a 19 year old and a 17 year old here, okay? We're not talking about a guy who met some girl while he was a junior in high school and she was a freshman.

[Bobby Capucci]

All right?

[Commentator/Critic]

There's no gray area here is what I'm trying to say. Even if Virginia was 18 or 19, the fact that the Prince of England. I can't even believe I'm. I'm saying that the Prince of England had sex with a trafficked girl. Underage, overage, or anything in between is enough to make your mind hurt, to make your brain explode, and to make you want to vomit. Add to the fact that she was underage and it is a whole different ball game of grossness. Andrew has categorically denied he has had any form of sexual contact or relationship with Ms. Roberts.

[Bobby Capucci]

Let's be clear, he also denied that

[Commentator/Critic]

he ever even took that picture with her. He would have you believe his story rather than your own eyes. These people think that their power, their

[Bobby Capucci]

station, makes it so that we would just believe what they have to say

[Commentator/Critic]

rather than believe our own eyes, as if we were all on a mushroom induced trip. And they're the only ones who are sober with clarity. The Duke's friend, British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, co conspirator of Jeffrey Epstein, fellow child abuser, general all around scumbag, is awaiting trial in the US after being charged with procuring teenage girls for Epstein to abuse. She denies the charges. In a clip released of the program, Ms. Roberts said of Andrew, who is the father of Princesses Beatrice and Eugenie, before he abused me when we just met. Ghislaine does this guessing game and he guessed right. I was 17 and he compared me to his daughter, saying, oh, my daughters are a few years younger than you. She added, prince Andrew is not the prince from the fairy tale stories you read. And that's for sure, right? Look, I am an absolute fantasy nerd. I read all sorts of fantasy novels, books of, you know, like Game of Thrones, books by like Joe Abercrombie, et cetera, et cetera, right? So, you know, when you hear about a prince, the first thing you think about is, you know, a prince, somebody that's honorable, somebody that's going to stand up for what's right, etc. Etc. Well, when I was a kid, that's

[Bobby Capucci]

what I thought as well.

[Commentator/Critic]

And then I started reading some books, like the aforementioned books I just talked about. And you find out that, well, just because you're a prince or just because you're a king or somebody who's powerful doesn't mean you're not a gray character, right? And that's what we have in real life and that's what we're dealing with here. A lot of gray characters. These people are not good guys. They're not good people. And a person like Prince Andrew, who is the Prince of England, should strive to be something more. But instead he got down into the mud and rolled around with the pig known as Jeffrey Epstein. Andrew deserves to be outed. He deserves to be held accountable. He's an abuser. And that's 100% correct. And that's why we're going over this again today. And we're amplifying what Virginia is saying because it's important, it's very important that Prince Andrew is held to account for his role in all of this. I know that they say he is not a subject of the investigation. But as we just saw here in America with John Brennan, who just had an eight hour sit down with the FBI, they want to walk you into a perjury trap. That's what they did with Brennan the other day. And that's what they're looking to do with Prince Andrew. If they sit him down, they are going to get him into a spider web where he ends up lying. It is almost a guarantee. And that's what they're looking for. They don't want a written statement for that exact fact. They want to be able to basically cross examine him. And he has not been willing to do that as of yet.

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[Commentator/Critic]

Lady Victoria Hervey, formerly friends with Andrew and Maxwell, told the program that friendship with Epstein offered the Duke a form of escapism. Oh, that's such bullshit. I don't even want to. I don't even want to hear that kind of nonsense. Okay, escapism. You're the Prince of England. Why don't you go on a safari? Go climb Mount Everest. Go take a hike somewhere. Go on a three week adventure. He offered him a form of escapism? No, he offered him young girls to abuse. That's what he offered him. Ms. Hervey, she said Jeffrey definitely enjoyed the idea of being friends with the Queen's son. And Prince Andrew had just gone through a divorce. There's this American billionaire that wants to fly him around the world and. And introduce him to people. And it was probably an escapism really for him. Probably. See, remember, words matter. Probably she doesn't know. She's trying to lay cover fire for him. Ms. Hervey, why would you lay cover fire for Andrew? Let's be real. He had the ability to do whatever he wanted in the world. Like I said, climb Mount Everest. Go to Antarctica, Go on a safari in Africa. Go hang out with the Monks. Whatever it is he wanted to do as the Prince of England, he could have done it. Instead, he chose to hang out with creepy ass, pervy ass, rapey ass Jeffrey Epstein. Okay? His choice, nobody else's. He needs to stand tall before the wagon and answer for his actions. Christopher Mason, a journalist and also a former friend of Maxwell, said he once bumped into Andrew and Maxwell while walking in Madison Avenue in New York. Mr. Mason said, he told me that he was staying at Jeffrey's townhouse. That kind of fascinated me. It just seemed like kind of a perfect instance of the kind of people that Jeffrey was hanging out with. And I've brought this up several times now. I'm sure most of you are familiar with New York, with Manhattan. I'm sure a lot of you have been there and you know that there are some of the greatest, most fantastic hotel accommodations in the whole entire world. There's. He did not. Prince Andrew did not have to stay with Jeffrey. Pervy ass Epstein did not need to stay in that house of rape horror, and he chose to do so even after he said he was coming over here to break up with Epstein. So please save it, all right? It was not escapism. It wasn't anything besides the fact that Epstein was providing the forbidden fruit that Prince Andrew wanted oh, so badly. Andrew stepped down from royal public life in November following his disastrous BBC Newsnight interview, which had led to criticism of a lack of empathy for Epstein's survivors and a lack of remorse over his friendship with a convicted sex offender. Maxwell, 58, has pleaded not guilty to helping Epstein recruit and eventually abuse three girls who prosecutors did not publicly name from 1994 to 1997 and to committing perjury by denying her involvement under oath. And we. We know how close Andrew and Ghislaine were. We know that Ghislaine had free run of the keep. She could go to Buckingham palace whenever she wanted. In fact, they would have picnics right in front of the Queen's window. Isn't that cute, Mr. Mr. Touchy Toucher. And G. Max Maxwell, the child molester and abuser, hanging out a stone's throw away from the Queen's window. How does that make you feel? UK My fellow Brits, I know that a lot of you were fired up. From the emails I've been getting and from what occurred in front of Buckingham palace, it's safe to say that the fantastic people of the United Kingdom have had enough of the shit. She was arrested on July 2nd in New Hampshire, where prosecutors said she was trying to evade capture. And is being held in a Brooklyn jail after a judge called her a flight risk. In total, Maxwell is facing six counts, four relating to child sex trafficking and two of perjury for lying under oath about the trafficking during a previous lawsuit. If convicted on all charges, she is facing up to 35 years behind bars.

[Bobby Capucci]

And remember, these are not the only charges in my humble opinion.

[Commentator/Critic]

We know that there is a, there is a grand jury investigation that is still going on. We know that they have already produced sealed indictments. The question is when will they be released and there will be a superseded indictment here. There is zero doubt in my mind what those charges are going to be is the question. Obviously the 500 pound gorilla in the room is Rico and that is the tool within the toolbox that in my opinion, must be used. Maxwell's trial is scheduled for next July. Epstein was found hanged at age 66 last August in a Manhattan jail while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges for abusing women and girls in Manhattan and Florida from 2002 to, to 2005. He had also pleaded not guilty.

[Bobby Capucci]

And that's another thing, folks. Do you think that those were gonna be the only charges Epstein was facing just in New York and just in Miami?

[Commentator/Critic]

Of course not.

[Bobby Capucci]

If Epstein didn't die in jail, he

[Commentator/Critic]

would have also been facing a superseded indictment and we would have already been looking at a RICO case because Maxwell would have been arrested, Epstein would have been arrested, and it would have been a cherry on top style RICO case. During her pretrial incarceration, Maxwell is being watched by a team of prison psychiatrists

[Bobby Capucci]

who are compiling a secret file on her mental health.

[Commentator/Critic]

Her lawyers have claimed, well, if it's secret, then how does she know? I mean, some of this stuff they say is just so ridiculous. These lawyers will say anything, anything to attempt to control the narrative.

[Bobby Capucci]

In a letter protesting about the uniquely

[Commentator/Critic]

onerous conditions of her confinement in a Brooklyn jail, her legal team claims that she has been under constant surveillance without her consent. You lost your ability for consent the second you got arrested. And furthermore, how does it feel to have things done to you without your consent? Maxwell is asking the judge in her case to order that her lockup conditions at the Metropolitan Detention center be modified to be the same as other inmates. That's such a ridiculous request. No, you're not getting treated the same. You're not going out on the main line. You're not hitting the yard. You're not going to be sitting around in the chow hall. That shit is not happening, okay? You're going to see trial. You're going to face your accusers and they are finally going to get a taste of justice. Surviving Jeffrey Epstein will be screened on the Crime Investigation Channel with a Double episode on August 25th at 9pm followed

[Bobby Capucci]

by parts three and four the following evening.

[Commentator/Critic]

On August 26th at 9pm folks, look, it is long past time that Prince Andrew is held accountable for his role in the Epstein enterprise. It is much, much, much too long since this man has been involved with this and he has been able to navigate and avoid taking any responsibility.

[Bobby Capucci]

Well, bad news for him and bad

[Commentator/Critic]

news for the rest of these people. We are now paying attention. The worst thing for these people that could have ever happened was the fact that they locked people like me in my house for four months. We have had nothing to do but time but but spend time digging in to cases like this. And my friends, what we have found with just the evidence that's available to us in the articles is one of the biggest, most far ranging criminal conspiracies that I have ever seen. We are talking intercontinental, multiple big time players from multiple governments and just about every single rich banker scuzz bag you can imagine. That's the scope of what we're dealing with here. And their big mistake was giving us the time to really dig in and take a look at what was going on. And now there is only one option, folks, and that option is justice. To all my friends in Australia. I know you guys are suffering through a lockdown right now as well. I've been following the news and just want to let you guys all know that I'm with you folks and I get it. It sucks. The lockdown stuff is not fun. We went through it here in America, here in Las Vegas especially. It was really, really tough. So my suggestion is find some good books, some Netflix series, obviously the Jeffrey Epstein Podcast and Jeffrey Epstein show. And at the most important thing for me, what I did while I was suffering through these silly lockdowns was I tried to focus on the day right on what was going on that day and just tried to get through it because it is a long slog. So I hope that everybody in Australia who listens to the podcast is hanging in there and just know folks, everything is temporary. This is all gonna end soon and hopefully sooner than later we will all be back to business as usual. If you'd like to contact me, you can do [e-mail] that's B O B B Y C A P U c c [e-mail] you can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Capuci.

[Bobby Capucci]

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