Mega Edition: Jeffrey Epstein, The Exclusive Dinners And EDGE (5/29/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles: Mega Edition – Jeffrey Epstein, The Exclusive Dinners and EDGE (5/29/26)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Primary Source/Guest: Evgeny Morozov (voice and New Republic author)

A detailed breakdown of how Jeffrey Epstein infiltrated the world of science and academia through exclusive dinners, the Edge Foundation, and the role of literary agent John Brockman as a gatekeeper and enabler. The episode leans heavily on a 2019 article by Evgeny Morozov and deep dives into the web of connections and the ongoing lack of accountability among elite scientists, technologists, and billionaires.

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Episode Overview

The focus of this episode is unraveling the mechanisms and personalities that enabled Jeffrey Epstein’s reintegration—and, in many cases, elevation—into elite intellectual and scientific circles even after his conviction for sex crimes. Bobby Capucci uses Evgeny Morozov’s investigative reporting—as well as a substantial article read and discussed on-air—to spotlight the centrality of John Brockman and his Edge Foundation in Epstein’s networking scheme.

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Key Topics & Insights

1. John Brockman: Epstein’s Intellectual Gatekeeper

[00:31–07:00]

• Brockman, a top-tier literary agent, is identified as the pivotal figure who facilitated Epstein’s access to world-leading scientists, researchers, and technologists.
• He launched and led the Edge Foundation, which was both a public platform for high-level academic conversation and a private, exclusive club featuring "sumptuous dinners, exclusive conferences, and private jets."
• Dual-nature of Edge: One face for the public (annual "big question" answered by luminaries), another for insiders’ only gatherings, often bankrolled or attended by Epstein.
• “My problem is he enabled Jeffrey Epstein, but my problem is he brought Jeffrey Epstein into a circle and gave him credibility... when you do that, you’re vouching for this guy.” —Bobby Capucci [02:25]
• In academia as in business, social credibility is currency—and Brockman allegedly spent his own to "vouch" for Epstein.

2. The Pattern of Introduction & Enabling

[07:00–12:40]

• Brockman’s role is carefully compared to Ghislaine Maxwell's: Maxwell introduced Epstein to high society, Brockman introduced him to academia and tech.
• Notable individuals in Brockman’s circle implicated (as clients and as involved with Epstein):
  • Marvin Minsky (MIT scientist; directly accused by victim Virginia Giuffre)
  • Joi Ito (ex-MIT Media Lab director, who admitted taking Epstein funds)
• “Brockman was the pivot man for Epstein when it came to procuring scientists, the same way Ghislaine Maxwell was that the woman when it came to procuring young girls.” —Bobby Capucci [10:28]
• Capucci highlights the under-investigated role of enablers, calling for more scrutiny.

3. The Billionaires Dinner, Networking, and Financial Flows

[13:23–29:00]

• A review of insider emails reveals how Brockman enticed clients—sometimes downplaying Epstein’s criminal history, sometimes offering bragging rights (“he’s extremely bright and interesting,” “the billionaire science philanthropist pedophile showed up at this weekend’s event by helicopter with his beautiful young assistant from Belarus.”) [20:20]
• Prince Andrew is directly named as a participant in Epstein-Brockman events—including one memorable foot massage story.
• The mechanism: Billionaires (hungry for credibility) meet scientists (hungry for funding); Brockman the matchmaker; Epstein, the "benefactor."
• Open question of money laundering: How much of the “above board” funding is documented, versus potentially unreported cash exchanges and quid pro quos?

4. Accountability, Media Silence, and The Academic World’s Blind Eye

[29:00–38:00]

• Capucci and Morozov both emphasize the failure (or refusal) of many in the media and academia to probe the enablers, even as undeniable connections pile up.
• When the Epstein story re-emerged post-2019, Brockman went silent and did not answer media requests. Other elite attendees quietly scrambled to erase digital records and distance themselves.
• The host is scathing about this: “All of these people that pal around with each other...your job as a journalist is to hold people in power to account…quit carrying water. It’s old, it’s tired, and frankly, people are sick of it.” —Bobby Capucci [32:41]

5. Who Was Really at the Table? Specific Names & Events

[32:34–39:53]

• Edge Foundation’s annual “Billionaires Dinner” during TED Conference:
  • Guests included Jeff Bezos, Sergey Brin, Steve Case, Linda Stone, Daniel Dennett, Richard Dawkins, Steven Pinker, Kara Swisher, and others.
  • Many tried to rewrite their proximity to Epstein after his arrest by scrubbing websites and records.
• Pinker, Dennett, Dawkins, and others provide canned, even contradictory, excuses (e.g., Pinker: “only spoke to him three times that he can recall”—despite clear proximity on private flights).
• Sarah Kellen (alleged Epstein assistant and co-conspirator) present in dinner photos.

6. The Edge Foundation: Finances and Fallout

[39:54–43:19]

• Analysis of financial records: between 2001 and 2015, the Edge Foundation took in $638,000 from Epstein’s various foundations—often as sole donor for entire years.
• “If such an explanation [from Brockman] is not forthcoming, many of us will have to decide whether we would like to be part of this odd intellectual club...located on the dubious continuum between the seminar room and the sex-trafficking ring.” —Evgeny Morozov, quoting his own article [26:39]
• Capucci repeatedly calls for authors and scientists to cut ties with Brockman and Edge until there is full transparency.

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Brockman was the pivot man for Epstein when it came to procuring scientists, the same way Ghislaine Maxwell was that the woman when it came to procuring young girls.” —Bobby Capucci [10:28]

• “If you're not willing to play ball, they don't want anything to do with you...If you're not down with their proclivities, if you're not a fellow traveler, you're not welcome.” —Bobby Capucci [24:19]

• “It's not as if the Epstein story broke yesterday. It's been more than a month since Epstein was arrested on the latest charges. Still no word on the issue. And now that I’ve found that old email he sent me, I cannot believe that he knew absolutely nothing of Epstein's wild sexual escapades.” —Evgeny Morozov [25:51]

• “All of these people that pal around with each other, all of these journalists out here that think like the pinnacle of life is being invited to these parties, you just don't get it, do you? Your job as a journalist is to hold people in power to account and to keep the populace informed. Nothing more, nothing less.” —Bobby Capucci [32:41]

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Timestamps for Important Segments

• 00:31 – Introduction of John Brockman, his dual role, and the Edge Foundation’s structure.
• 07:47 – Brockman compared as conduit/gatekeeper, parallel to Ghislaine Maxwell.
• 10:20 – The “matchmaking” role between billionaires and scientists.
• 20:00 – Reading and dissection of Brockman’s email about Epstein’s attendance at private events and his boastful tone regarding Prince Andrew, etc.
• 24:19 – On the exclusionary, member-only nature of Edge Foundation dinners and their dangers.
• 29:00 – The call for transparency and disassociation by authors and scientists connected to Brockman.
• 32:34 – Deep dive into the specific "Billionaires Dinner" guest lists and their later erasure from public record.
• 35:30 – Questioning the reasons for powerful figures’ proximity to Epstein and the lack of scrutiny.
• 39:54 – Detailed, on-record evidence of Edge Foundation’s financial relationship with Epstein.

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The Host’s Tone

Bobby Capucci is unapologetically direct, skeptical of elite narratives, and insistent on transparency and accountability (“pulling no punches” as promised in the show’s description). He blends journalistic inquiry, exasperation with establishment evasions, and a streetwise skepticism of the respectability politics that shielded Epstein’s social climbs.

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Concluding Thoughts & Future Context

Capucci promises to further investigate the Edge Foundation and its actors, underlining that the “rabbit hole is so deep, every time we take a dive...we find more chambers and more warrens.” He asserts that without enablers like Brockman, Epstein would have faced much higher barriers to entering—and corrupting—the academic and intellectual elite.

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For further reading and referenced articles, see the podcast episode description.

Transcript

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[Evgeny Morozov]

A man named John Brockman today. And John Brockman is a literary agent who it works with all of the scientists who write books and all of the academics who write books and all of the supposed great minds. Well, John Brockman was one of Jeffrey Epstein's enablers, a man who brought Jeffrey Epstein closer to these scientists. And the article we're going to read today from the New Republic is going to detail just how that occurred. Now, this article came out on August 22nd of 2019, and the article was written by Evgeny Morozov. And the headline, jeffrey Epstein's Intellectual Enabler. How did Epstein meet so many luminaries in the world of science and technology? It all might trace back to literary agent John Brockman. And I've heard John Brockman's name brought up several times to me in private conversations with people who are close to this case. And I've been meaning to get around to talk about John Brockman. And since the news is so light lately, I figured today would be the perfect time to do that. So let's jump into this article and see just exactly what John Brockman was up to. If you are an accomplished science or technology writer, your books are probably handled by the most powerful literary agency in the field, the famous John Brockman Incorporated, started by John Brockman and now run by Max Brockman, his son. As it happens, Max is also my agent and has been since my first book was sold in 2009. As agencies go, I only have positive things to report. The Brockmans fight for their authors and get us very handsome advances. That's what agents are for. Of course. Right? Look, not knocking the guy for his hustle. We all have to have our hustle and we all have to be good at our job, right? And if you're a literary agent, your job is to make sure that your writers are getting deals and they're writing books. So not knocking the man for his hustle. I have no problem with the fact that he's a literary agent, right? My problem is he enabled Jeffrey Epstein, but my problem is he brought Jeffrey Epstein into a circle and gave him credibility off of the. Off of his own name, off of the back of his own name. And when you do that, you're vouching for this guy. And in the world I come from, well, if you vouch for somebody, you're responsible for their behavior. But that's not the whole story. John is also the president, founder and chief impresario of of the Edge foundation, which has earned a stellar reputation as an eclectic platform for conversations that involve scientists, artists and technologists. There is more than one Edge foundation, though. There is the one meant for public consumption, with its annual question, for example, what are you optimistic about? Answered by famous intellectuals and thinkers, and one meant for private consumption by members of Brockman's elite network. The former exists primarily online. The latter has a vibrant real life component with sumptuous dinners, exclusive conferences, and quite a bit of travel on private jets. It functions as an elaborate massage of the ego and apparently much else for the rich, the smart, and the powerful. Again, we see this time and time again with business leaders and politicians and, you know, hedge fund managers, et cetera, et cetera. But now we also see that the highest in the realms of academia, the scientists, the doctors, the professors, all of these people are just as susceptible to guys like Jeffrey Epstein as well, and if not more. You see, these guys might be the leading minds at what they do, but that's about it, right? If you take a look at most of these scientists, they're not exactly what you would call, you know, guys that are gonna knock your girl's socks off if they come and sit down and look at them, right? These are the kind of guys that are super intelligent but pretty goofy for the most part, right? These guys weren't playing on the football team, they weren't shotgunning beers on Saturday nights. They weren't getting into fights, they weren't getting the hot cheerleader girls in school, none of that. So that was all repressed for them to now later on in life. Well, the world's their oyster and Jeffrey Epstein just happens to be serving seafood. Over the course of my research into the history of digital culture, I've got to know quite a lot about John's role in shaping the digital and especially the intellectual world that we live in. I've examined and scanned many of his letters in the archives of famous men, and they are mostly men such as Marshall McLuhan, Stuart Brand and Gregory Bateson. He is no mere literary agent. He is a true organic intellectual of the digital revolution, shaping trends rather than responding to them. With the MIT Media Lab, TED Conferences, and Wired have the clout and intellectual orientation that they have now, without the extensive network cultivated by Brockman over decades, I for one very much doubt it. Again, I've talked about these TED talks and these, these Media Lab conferences and the EDGE foundation for years and a lot of times it fell upon deaf ears. You know, I would speak to people about it and their eyes would glaze over. There's always been something going on, something wrong with these scientists, these people that were hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein. We never had anybody come out really and talk about it besides, you know, when Virginia so bravely stepped forward and talk, you know, Minsky and some of the other scientists and stuff. But these guys have been able to go underneath the radar, operate under the radar for so long because everyone looks up to them because they're so smart and they're so respected. But meanwhile, meanwhile, in the dark of night and in the, on the privacy of Jeffrey Island's, Jeffrey Epstein's island, well their real character started to show through. So I've always been skeptical of these conferences like TED Talk and the EDGE foundation, any of these places where people get up on a stage and they start preaching to you and they're acting holier than now and acting as if they're better than you. I automatically start to think that something is going on. It's just like when the government says to you everything's fine here, everything's all right, we're from the government, we're here to help. Then you know for a fact it's time to panic. Lately John has been in the news for other reasons. Namely because of his troubling connections to Jeffrey Epstein, the so called financier who reportedly hanged himself earlier this month while facing federal charges of sex trafficking. Epstein participated in the Edge Foundation's annual questions and attended its billionaires dinners. Brockman may also be the reason why so many prominent academics, from Steven Pinker to Daniel Dennett have found themselves answering awkward questions about their associations with Epstein. Now, the way Ghislaine Maxwell acted for the world of the socialite, for the upper crest, so called polite society with Jeffrey Epstein as a conduit, that is the same exact way John Brockman acted as a conduit for Epstein into the world of intellectuals and scientists. Now not saying that John Brockman had the same sort of role as Ghislaine Maxwell. Okay, nothing like that. But he was the introduction man, right? He was the man that introduced Epstein to these scientists who vouched for Epstein with these scientists, brought them all together at the Edge foundation, took bunch of money from Jeffrey Epstein, right? So Brockman was the pivot man for Epstein when it came to procuring scientists, the same way Ghislaine Maxwell was that the woman when it came to procuring young girls for him to abuse. They are clients of Brockman's, Marvin Minsky, the prominent MIT scientist who surfaced as one of Epstein's island buddies, a client of Brockman's. And we know that Virginia said that Marvin Minsky was not only an enabler, but that she was trafficked to him as well. And I talked about Minsky on an episode yesterday morning, I believe, or the day before. I don't know. All the days are blending together to me right now. But Minsky is definitely somebody that flew under the radar for way too long, and he passed away recently, so obviously he's not somebody whose name is in the forefront. But I don't think that his legacy should go down with that without that being part of it, right? What he did to Virginia, that needs to be talked about. That needs to be known. And, you know, the media never really talks about Minsky. They never have. And of course, there's more. More. There's juicier people involved in the case for them, of course, because, hell, who wants. Nobody even knows who Minsky is unless you're involved. You know, science and stuff. But the fact of the matter is, Minsky needs more. Needs more scrutiny, and he needs to be looked at harder by the legacy media. Choi Ito, the director of the elite research facility, MIT Media Lab, who has recently acknowledged extensive ties to Epstein, who, huh, also a client of Brockman's. You see the pattern here, folks? You see how it works? All of these people, Brockman would be the center guy, right? The pivot. Epstein would come to him. Brockman would make the introduction. Epstein would suck them into his orbit. And we all know the story after that. Should we just write it off as natural collateral damage? For someone with a network as extensive as Brockman's, he is, after all, a networker's networker. Yeah. Sorry, Negative. One thing we've learned, in this case, the coincidence aren't. The coincidences aren't just coincidences in this case. There's always more to it. There's always more underneath the surface. When you do, just a little scratch of the surface, you always find a little bit more. Based on my observations over the last decade, his whole operation runs on two simple but powerful principles. First, the total value of the network, and. And thus his own value goes up if the nodes start connecting to each other independently of him. Yeah, well, that's how networking usually works, right? You make the introduction, you, you water the seeds, then you let the garden grow. And Brockman was very good at that, very good at that. Nurturing relationships between people like Epstein with money and scientists who needed that money to get their projects off the ground. Second, the more diverse the network, the more attractive to its newcomers as well as to all the existing members. Billionaires are rich, but they might harbor an insecurity complex related to not being very well read. Looking at you, Bill Gates. Ooh, zinger at Bill Gates, our friend Bill Gates. Scientists, in contrast, are usually well read, but might aspire to fancier cars and luxuries and funding for their pet projects and so on. There's something for everyone. And in the case of Epstein, someone seems to have done the matchmaking. Yeah, of course, it's obvious. We know that that was happening, right? And people who follow the story have heard of John Brockman and people know that he's a big time literary agent and somebody who is, you know, very connected when it comes to scientists, etc. Etc. But it's obvious when you really dig deep and you take a look at what was going on, that Brockman was working as, you know, the doorway into the scientific world. The man that would match these people together like he was the millionaire matchmaker, right? Oh, Epstein has money. This guy has a pet project. Epstein might like. Let's get them together. And then, of course, I'm sure Brockman was getting a percent somewhere down the line. Obviously I don't have evidence to prove that, but it works well with our whole entire thread of money laundering, right? We all know that if you were to match up all of the receipts on the cash transactions, etc, etc, how many of them were reported to the the irs? I'd really like to know that.

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[Evgeny Morozov]

In Brockman's world, billionaires, scientists, artists, novelists, journalists and musicians all blend together to produce enormous for each other and of course for Brockman, again, a symbiotic relationship. There's nothing wrong with that. For a literary agent to, you know, bring people together to try and network, to Help his clients get funding, etc. Etc. The problem is, when you're using Jeffrey Epstein as that linchpin, when you're using Jeffrey Epstein as the draw. Brockman's a smart guy, all right? And anyone thinks that Brockman didn't have an idea what Epstein was up to. I'm sorry, but I don't believe that this mingling of clients doesn't happen in other literary agencies, at least not to this extent. Nor does this happen at Brockman Incorporated, as all such interactions that we know of took place under the umbrella of the Edge Foundation, a sibling organization with Brockman as its president. Of course, you don't want to shit where you eat, right? You don't want to put it under the banner of your literary agency. So you start this thing called the Edge Foundation. Perfect. We'll get this Edge foundation together, and we'll bring together all of these scientists with their fantastic benefactor, Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, did I mention there's a bunch of young girls on the island, too? Would Brockman Incorporated exist without the Edge Foundation? Possibly, and it did at the outset. Would it be as powerful, trading on Brockman's ability to rub shoulders with academics and billionaires alike? Probably not. Still, I can attest that Brockman's authors faced no pressure to get involved with Edge. I, for example, diligently responded to their annual questions between 2010 and 2013, was as much of an enabler as anybody else. Right. This guy, John Brockman, is very powerful in the industry that he is in, and he is definitely a gatekeeper to Epstein. Right? Definitely was a gatekeeper to Epstein and definitely held the keys to a lot of these scientists and authors, you know, moving their projects forward on the back of Epstein's dime. And the fact that they told their authors to stay away from politics and stuff when it comes to responding to the questions, well, that doesn't shock anybody. Right. They don't want them, you know, their overlords in one of the Alphabet soup agencies that were running Epstein to get upset with the commentary. When the Epstein Brockman connection first surfaced in the news, I wanted to give Brockman the benefit of the doubt. It's possible, I thought, that Epstein was just one of the many rich people in Brockman's orbit. Or maybe the two had been close only before Epstein's first criminal case in the mid 2000s. Or maybe Brockman was in the dark about Epstein's tendencies and they only talked about quantum physics and artificial intelligence. Yeah, look, I can understand why the author would feel that way about Brockman. He's his agent. He wants to think the best of the guy. Of course, you always want to give people the benefit of the doubt, right? You don't want to go into things and be like, all right, this dude's a part of Epstein's operation. That's it. Nothing can change my mind. Of course not. You always want to give people the benefit of the doubt. You want to look at the evidence, and you want to make sure that your line of thinking is clear and. And that it has nothing to do with a confirmation bias or anything like that, right? So this gentleman, the author, Morozov, who wrote this article, wanted to give Brockman the benefit of the doubt, but obviously it doesn't add up, right? When the pieces start to come into play, you can't try and, you know, bend the truth to make it fit what you think the situation should be. You just have to follow the truth wherever it goes. In the last few weeks, such a charitable interpretation has become very hard to sustain, especially as other details implicating Marvin Minsky and Joy Ito, who has apologized for taking money from Epstein became public. John Brockman has not said a word publicly about his connection to Epstein since the latest scandal broke, preferring to maintain silence on the matter. That I have found quite infuriating. Yeah, it is pretty infuriating, right? A guy like Brockman should have came out right away, distanced himself from Epstein, distanced himself from the whole entire situation and answered questions about his relationship with Epstein and as his role as a gatekeeper. But instead, like the rest of them, he just clammed up, quieted down, and hoped it would go away. And that's what they all hope because of the first time around, how things went. They hope that this time around, it's the same thing, that nothing, the wheels don't turn, nobody gets in trouble, and justice is never served. Well, I'm here to tell them this isn't the last time around, all right? It's a whole new world we're living in, folks. There was no social media like this the last time around. There was no way for the survivors to go directly to the people with their case and their story. Now there is, and guess what? We've completely bypassed all of their buddies in the legacy media. We've completely bypassed all of their friends like George Stepanopoulos and Amy Robach. Okay? We're taking the case directly to the people this time. And it terrifies them. It scares them. They know that there is no place for them to run. There is no safe haven for these people at this point. Knowing that Brockman likes to brag about all the famous people he has met and befriended, you can easily count the seconds until he Name checks Marshall McCluhan or Andy Warhol or Gregory Bateson in a casual conversation. I decided to look over our correspondence over the past decade and see if he might have name dropped Epstein somewhere. And of course he did. Browsing through our email correspondence, I stumbled upon a most peculiar email from September 12th of 2013. It was very laconic. Je FYI JB followed by my short bio and some media clippings. You can check the entire PDF of the correspondence here. There's a hyperlink in this story. Make sure you click on the link in the description box after the article and you can check out that PDF. Strangely, it was sent to me and had no other contacts in cc. Perhaps he wanted to send it to JE but put my email there by mistake. When I commented on the meaning of this cryptic message, he responded with the following message reproduced here in full. I missed that one. Jeffrey Epstein, the billionaire science philanthropist pedophile, showed up at his weekend's event by helicopter with his beautiful young assistant from Belarus. He'll be in Cambridge in a couple of weeks. Ask me who he should meet. You are one of the people I suggested and told him I would send some links. He's the guy who gave Harvard $30 million to set up Martin Nowak. He's been extremely generous in funding projects of many of our friends and clients. He also got into trouble and spent a year in jail. That's what he says. Just he got in trouble and spent a year in jail. That's what Brockman says in the email. Doesn't go into detail, no context, nothing. Right. Why are you providing cover for him, Mr. Brockman? Why don't you let your other people know? The people that you're representing, the sort of scoundrel, the sort of snake that you're trying to get them in bed with. If he contacts you, it's probably worth your time to meet him as he is, as he is extremely bright and interesting. Really what he means is extremely rich. Last time I visited his house, the largest private residence in nyc, I walked in to find him in a sweatsuit and a British guy in a suit with suspenders getting foot massages from a young, well dressed Russian woman. After grilling me for a while about cybersecurity, the Brit name Andy was commenting on the Swedish authorities and the charges against Julian Assange. Andy meaning Prince Andrew, AKA the Prince of punk asses, the Prince of Lies. We think they're liberal in Sweden, but it's more like northern England as opposed to southern Europe, he said. In Monaco, Albert works 12 hours a day, but at 9pm when he goes out, he does whatever he wants and nobody cares. But if I do it, I'm in big trouble. At that point, I realized that the recipient of Irina's foot massage was His Royal Highness Prince Andrew, the Duke of York. Indeed, a week later, on a slow news day, the COVID of the New York Post had a full page photo of Jeffrey and Andrew walking in Central park under the headline the Prince in the Perv. That was the end of Andrew's role as the UK Trade ambassador, to which I responded, thanks for clarifying this. I'm sure he's an all around sweet guy, but I'll have to think about it. It could be that I spent far too much time in the Soros bubble, but I have zero interest in meeting billionaires. If I did, I'd be going to Davis every year. But I appreciate you taking the time. That's interesting that he brings up George Soros here and that he was in George Soros bubble and wants nothing to do with that either. I mean, George Soros is another one of these billionaire investors that we could probably do a whole entire podcast on, right? Because all of these guys doesn't matter your political bend, folks, okay? All of these big players, all of these big time bundlers and money money guys, package guys. These guys are all bad for business, all right? These guys are the worst kind of lobbyists. Here is Brockman again. A billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret plus a modeling agency is a different kind of animal. But I hear you and basically agree. Gregory Bateson once advised me that of all of our human inventions, economic, economic, man is by far the dullest. JB and here's my final answer. A billionaire who owns Victoria's Secret plus a modeling agency. One more reason to stay away, actually. And look, the author of this article seems like a savant at this point, right? For avoiding all of this, staying out of the clutches of Epstein, not falling into the trap. So he definitely needs to get some props, right? Evgeny Morozov needs to get some props for not falling into that trap. I didn't know who Evsky was at the time. Since I've never been keen to hang out with billionaires, mine was a natural response. I declined Brockman's invitations to hang out on his farm or attend his famous billionaire dinners. So I didn't think much of that invitation and eventually forgot about it. Needless to say, I never heard from Epstein or from Brockman about Epstein. Of course, they try and dangle the carrot, right? But if you're not willing to play ball, they don't want anything to do with you. They don't want any loose lips on their ship, right? They know what happens with loose lips, so they don't want any of that nonsense. If you're not down with their proclivities, if you're not a fellow traveler, you're not welcome. In that old email, it seemed clear that Brockman was acting as Epstein's PR man, his liaison with the world of scientists and intellectuals that Brockman had cultivated. Just like I said, Brockman was the pivot player here. He was the door, the revolving door that swung and opened the whole entire world of academia to Jeffrey Epstein and gave him the credibility for these scientists to listen to what he has to say. That Brockman has said nothing over this affair is rather bewildering. He did not return requests for comment left on his email and voicemail. I do know that John Brockman has been in poor health over the last few years, so I've cut him some slack. But patient as I am, the time has run out. It's not as if the Epstein story broke yesterday. It's been more than a month since Epstein was arrested on the latest charges. Still no word on the issue. And now that I've found that old email he sent me, I cannot believe that he knew absolutely nothing of Epstein's wild sexual escapades. In fact, his email suggests he was trying to capitalize on them to recruit yet another useful idiot into Epstein's network. 100%

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[Evgeny Morozov]

100%. That's what these guys did. This network was vast, folks. So much larger than we could have ever imagined, or that that's even been presented to us. I feel like getting a punch board

[Bobby Capucci]

and setting it up like they did

[Evgeny Morozov]

in the wire to take down Barksdale and Stringer Bell. That's how I feel right about now. Is in my office. I'm about to set one up with pictures and really start digging into this like, like I'm a, you know, Detective McNulty over here. Because this, this is the, the many layers of this, the many chambers of this. It's so vast. It is so vast that it's hard to wrap your many top level important people were involved in not only the actual abuse, but enabling this to go

[Bobby Capucci]

on for so many years.

[Evgeny Morozov]

There's more. A close analysis of Edge foundation publicly available financial statements suggest that between 2001 and 2015, it has received $638,000 from Epstein's various foundations. In many of those years, Epstein was Edge's sole donor. Yet how many of Edge's contributors, let alone readers, knew Epstein played so large a role in the organization? And now, remember, those are just the numbers that we have on the books. We don't really know how much money was given to any of these people, any of these foundations. We know that Epstein loved to spread the money around. But was it always, you know, done on the up and up straight transfers of money or how many bags of cash were given out? That's a question that needs to be asked. Because the money aspect of this whole entire thing has been left to the side. When I believe it's a big part of it, a big tool for law enforcement to use to leverage these people, I wish they would use it more often. I'm just one of the many authors in Brockman's agency. My departure wouldn't affect anything. I am also the last one to complain. His agency sold two of my books and I have two more underway, also sold by them. Yet I am ready to pull the plug on my association with Brockman's agency and would encourage other authors to consider doing the same until and unless he clarifies the relationship between him, the Edge foundation and Epstein. If such an explanation is not forthcoming, many of us will have to decide whether we would like to be part of this odd intellectual club located on the dubious continu between the seminar room and the sex trafficking ring. That's some powerful stuff, right? And I commend him for doing that and calling on his colleagues to do the same. Nobody should be working with this Brockman guy until he clarifies what's going on. Right? Sorry, buddy, time to split. Excessive networking, it appears, devours its own. Brockman is already many months too late to what he should have done much earlier. Close down the Edge foundation, publicly repent, retire, and turn Brockman incorporated into yet another banal Literary agency. The kind where authors do not have to mingle with billionaires at fancy dinners or worry about walking in on the Prince of Punk asses getting his feet massaged. The UN Network. I think that's a great idea, right?

[Bobby Capucci]

I really do.

[Evgeny Morozov]

I think that the role that Brockman played in this can't be understated. I think that it deserves more scrutiny. And I think the Edge foundation in general should be put on blast. So we're going to talk a little bit about the Edge foundation in the coming days. We'll talk a little bit more about that, add some context to just exactly what it is, what they were up to, what sort of conferences they were doing, who was involved, etc. Etc. So, folks, look, like I said, the rabbit hole is deep. This rabbit hole is so deep, every time we take a dive into the hole, we find more chambers and more warrens. So we just have to keep pulling on these threads. We have to keep going, pulling on these threads and calling out all of these enablers whenever possible because they played a big role in this, right? Without this man, John Brockman, Epstein would have had a harder time getting into the world of academia. He would have had a harder time getting his fingers deep into this world. But yet Brockman acted as that pivot. He acted as the conduit. And Epstein in turn was accepted by some of the finest minds in the world, who we've realized, while they might be very smart individuals, were disgusting scoundrels, just like Jeffrey Epstein. If you'd like to contact me, you can do [e-mail] that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter at boby underscore cap UCCI

[Bobby Capucci]

Happy New what's up everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this look back episode, we're going to go back to 2019 once again and we're going to talk about Jeffrey Epstein and his attendance at the Billionaires Dinner. This article was authored by Julia Laroche and it was published by Yahoo. Finance. The arrest of New York financier pedophile Jeffrey Epstein has resulted in many people trying to distance themselves from the registered sex offender, including scrubbing records of him attending high profile events. And how pathetic is that? Now they tried to do the scrub job, but it didn't work out so well. And you have yourselves here, the Edge Group, John Brockman's group, and they host this thing called the Billionaires Dinner, where all of These so called elite get together, rub elbows, and, you know, set the future of the. The whole entire earth in motion. Epstein, 66, was arrested earlier this month at Teterboro Airport on charges that between 2002 and 2005, Epstein exploited and abused dozens of underage girls, some as young as 14. And that didn't matter to any of these guys. They didn't care. Epstein a welcome sight. As long as he's coming with his purse open. As long as he's coming with a few coins jingling in his pocket. In the early 2000s and as recently as 2011, Epstein, whose billionaire status is now under question, would hobnob with a who's who of academia, literature and Silicon Valley at literary agent John Brockman's gathering, dubbed the Billionaires Dinner. An annual event held during the TED Conference in Monterey, California. You know, a meeting of all of the supposed smartest people in the world. They're gonna. We're talking at the TED Talk.

[Evgeny Morozov]

Give me a break, man.

[Bobby Capucci]

I don't want to be invited to any of that shit. So I don't even care. All of these people that pal around with each other, all of these journalists out here that think like the pinnacle of life is being invited to these parties, you just don't get it, do you? Your job as a journalist is to hold people in power to account and to keep the populace informed. Nothing more, nothing less. We don't care about who you're working for politically. Quit carrying water. That shit is old, it's tired, and frankly, people are sick of it. In a now deleted post on Brockman's nonprofit, the Edge Group's website, the Billionaires Dinner, it described as. It is described as one of Epstein's favorite events. He added that Epstein enjoys hanging, hanging with and stimulating provocative, thoughtful minds who have achieved a high degree of success in finance, company, high tech and scientific research. So basically, you have a sexual predator who's invited to all of these dinners with all of these so called elite. The richest amongst us, the smartest amongst us, allegedly, you know, the who's who of Silicon Valley and the upper crust of New York. Those are the kind of parties Epstein was hanging out at. And all of those people will have you think and believe that they know nothing of the behavior Epstein was engaging in. The occasion is a night where the large names in finance, business, philanthropy and science gather together. For one night. The richest people in the world come face to face with the most intelligent individuals in history. That's a pretty big leap, huh? So these people are smarter than Einstein or, you know, Fermi or any of the other great scientists we've had, huh? All these pedophiles and molesters. All of Jeffrey Epstein's menagerie of scientists are the brightest minds we have, huh? Well, for the brightest minds in the world, these people are stupid, aren't they? The New York Times reported in 2002 that Epstein flew a bunch of Tedsters. Oh, the tedsters. To Monterey in his Boeing 727, outfitted with mink and sable throws and a high altitude lunch catered by La Cirque 2000. So my question is this. How many trafficked girls were on the plane at this time acting as, you know, flight attendants and otherwise? We know Shantae Davies has talked about this before. So all of these fucking rich people are hanging out with Epstein, flying around on his plane like they don't have their own.

[Evgeny Morozov]

And for what reason? Why?

[Bobby Capucci]

Just because they enjoyed his company, huh? Yeah, right. I'm guessing, and I can't prove this, obviously, but I'm guessing that they were all having a bite of the forbidden fruit. Photographed on board the plane were Brockman, Stephen Pinker, Daniel C. Dennett, Katinka Matson, and Richard Dawkins. Richard Dawkins is the guy that talks about evolution and how, you know, there's no God and shit like that right now, as you all know by now, I'm agnostic when it comes to religion. I don't. I don't have arrogance enough to act like I know what's what one way or the other. But these people that were on this plane with Epstein and being toted around by Epstein, when they all have access to their own shit, they have some explaining to do. But again, none of these people have been forced to explain anything. They give us these garbage, ass canned, generic excuses for why they were with Epstein, and then we all just move on to the next topic. The original caption shown above from a Yahoo. Finance screen grab has been altered to exclude the association with Epstein. So when you look at the article, you click on the link that'll be in the description box. You'll be able to see all of this.

[Evgeny Morozov]

The.

[Bobby Capucci]

You know, how it was washed, how it was cut down, and how it was altered. Pinker, a Harvard professor of psychology and author, was on board that flight. He told Yahoo. Finance that he has found himself at some of the same events as Epstein, but has no personal or professional relationship with him and has only spoken to him three times that he can recall. So why were you on his plane, bro? If you don't know the guy, you're just going to hop on his plane and then, you know, act like you don't you you aren't friends after that? It doesn't make any sense to me. Maybe it's different in the world of these so called elite, but in the real world, you're not hopping on anyone's jet if you guys aren't homies. I first met Epstein a couple of years before that plane trip when I was invited to chat with him over coffee with a few mutual friends who said he was really smart, intellectual and scientifically curious. Pinker told Yahoo Finance. My own impressions were different. Oh yeah, I'm sure, I'm sure that you were just so anti Epstein that you got on his plane and went on this trip a few years later. Please shut up, okay? All of these people with their dumbass excuses. I don't want to hear him anymore. Pinker went on to describe Epstein as a kibitzer, whatever that is. He liked to hang out with and shoot the breeze with smart and famous people. But he was intellectually lazy and immature. Abruptly changing the subject, dismissing people's observations with wisecracks, considering his own intuition to be as valid as data from experts, Pinker added, funny though that him and all of his people were willing to take money from Epstein even though he was a kibitzer though, right? Another passenger on that trip, the philosopher and author Daniel C. Dennett, described the flight as uneventful and that Epstein pretty much stayed to himself. Two photos completely removed. Look, Epstein didn't stay to himself.

[Evgeny Morozov]

Stop it.

[Bobby Capucci]

He was all over that plane, talking to people, you know, doing his thing. We all know how Epstein conducted himself, what he was up to, and how he conducted himself amongst people like these scientists. While the Epstein mention in the plain photo caption was altered, two photos from the event are no longer featured on the Edge's website. At the 2002 dinner were guests like Dean Kamen, Linda Stone, Richard Saul Wurman, Steve Petranik, Jeff Bezos, John Markoff, Kara Swisher, Nathan Mirovald, Christopher J. Anderson, George Dyson, George Dyson, W. Daniel Hills Hillis Excuse me. Stuart Brand, Katinka Matson, Peter Schwartz, Ryan Phelan, Richard Dawkin, Louis Rossetto, Daniel C. Dennett, David Bunnell, Stephen Levy, Charles Simone, Sergey Brin, and Marnie Morris. According to the page and Sergi Brin's

[Evgeny Morozov]

pretty funny considering, right?

[Bobby Capucci]

At least one guest in particular stood out as not having a major business or literary accomplishments. That person is Sarah Kellen, who appears in now deleted photographs of course she was there. She was. Look, she was Epstein's number one when it came to this sort of thing. She had to be with him everywhere he went and that's why she needs to be indicted. Kellen, who is now married to NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, has been accused of recruiting young girls, maintaining Epstein's schedule and handling travel arrangements for the young girls being exploited. And she has been fingered as someone who took part in some of the abuse as well. Let's not forget that out she specifically identified in the controversy in the controversy lenient non prosecution agreement as a potential co conspirator. For nearly 15 years, Epstein's foundations have been major financial supporters of Brockman's nonprofit the Edge foundation, contributing more than half a million dollars in that time frame, according to Yahoo Finance's calculations. In 990 filings, Epstein's the Couq foundation donated $25,000 in 2001, 50,000 in 2003, 55,000 in 2004 and 200,000 in 2005 to the Edge Foundation Incorporated. You know, he's no part of that though. He's not a big part of this. He was just a guy hanging out. No big deal. Epstein had nothing to do with the Edge Foundation. The investigation into Epstein began in 2005 by the Palm Beach Police Department. As the U.S. attorney for the Southern District of Florida began preparing federal criminal charges, Epstein's attorneys began plea bargain discussions. On September 24, 2007, Epstein signed the controversial non prosecution agreement with the U.S. attorney's office. Imagine that. I know we talk about it all the time, but imagine that. In that agreement he pled guilty to one count of solicitation of prostitution and agreed that he would register as a sex offender. He also agreed to a 30 month sentence, including 18 months of jail time and 12 months of community control. In exchange, the U.S. attorney's office agreed to to not pursue federal charges.

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[Bobby Capucci]

Epstein was released in 2009 from the Palm Beach County Stockade after only 13 months spent in the private wing with with six days of work release per year per week. In 2011, Epstein appeared again at Brockman's Billionaire Heirs Dinner. According to the New York Times, guests at the event included Bezos, Brin, Myhwald, Elon Musk, Marissa Mayer, Zach Bogue, Ann Wojcicki and David Brooks. A page for the dinner shows and again, it just shows you folks, all of the people Epstein was associating with, how many of these people have come out and said, well, we know this about Epstein, he was with us here. This is what happened, blah, blah, blah, none of them right.

[Evgeny Morozov]

Exactly.

[Bobby Capucci]

Epstein attended the billionaires dinner in 1999 and in 2000, but those pages appeared to have also been removed. He also attended in 2004 at a downsized or more exclusive Edge dinner. And remember, he was invited to this after he was already a convicted sex offender. What more do you need? Attendees at the 1999 dinner included Richard Saul Wurman, Nathan Myhrvold, Linda Stone, Steve Case, Marnie Morris, John McCree, Joy Chi Ito, Katinka Matson, Jeffrey Epstein, Doug Rowan, Leon M. Lederman, Kevin Kelly, Jean Case, Patty Mays, David Bunnell, Jeff Bezos, Daniel Hillis, Kay Krause, according to a cached version of the page. Another cached page for the 2000 event shows that the guests included Marnie Morris, Patty Mays, Charles Simonyi, Cara Swisher, George Dyson, Linda Stone, David Braunschvig, Katinka Katinka Matson W. Daniel Hillis, Dean Kammen, Stuart Brand, Kip Parent, Nathan Mirval, Jeffrey Epstein, Brewster Kahl Brockman, the founder of the Edge foundation, did not respond to multiple requests for comment. So again, it just shows you all of these people that were involved, Epstein was a fixture amongst the so called elite and all of a sudden these very same so called elite all have collective amnesia. Guess what? I'm not buying it. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter. B O B B Y C A P U C C I The link that we discussed can be found in the description box.