
The psyche behind the people who enabled Jeffrey Epstein was built on a toxic mix of ambition, cowardice, greed, access, and moral compartmentalization. Epstein surrounded himself with people who either wanted something from him, feared losing...
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Hello everyone and welcome to the Jeffrey Epstein Show. I'm your host, Bobby Capucci, and this is a morning update. What's up everybody? And greetings from Sin City. Today we're gonna dive into the financials once again and we're going to look at an article from the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists. And this article is kind of dealing with the Paradise Papers once again. But really what it's looking at is how lawyers, accountants and other professionals play a key role in enabling all of these financial crimes. And this goes into our overall conversation right now. Obviously we started this conversation because it really has a lot to do with Jeffrey Epstein and the way he conducted his business. But when you start taking a look at this and you dive a little deeper, you understand very quickly that it was not just Jeffrey Epstein using this system. This is a tried and true system that these people have set up that they know how to navigate and they know that the payoff is well worth it. Look how many of these people are using these kinds of accounts. Look how many of these banks are engaging in this sort of behavior. Every single time we turn around there's another bank getting slapped with a fine. Meanwhile, nobody's going to prison for that. There's just fines and then all of the money gets paid and it starts all over again. So there's no real prosecution of these people. And the lawyers, the accountants, and all of these people who play a role enabling these financial crimes, the they have to be held accountable for the parts that they play. It would be no different if they were cooking the books for some mafioso or cartel member. What is the difference really? There is no difference besides the fact that the people we're talking about, the so called elites, they're the ones that are writing the check for the people who are making the laws. That's the difference. Let's jump into this article from International Consortium of Investigative Journalists and let's see see what the authors or author, I should say Will Fitzgibbon has to say. Headline Lawyers, Accountants and other professionals play Key role in Cross Border Financial Crime. OECD warns in new report the Forum of wealthy nations urges countries to target and disrupt enablers of tax evasion, money laundering and other illicit finance. Boy, that sounds familiar, doesn't it? Pretty sure there are a couple of players in the Jeffrey Epstein saga that certainly fit that bill, no? How about Indyke? How about Khan? How about all of the bankers who enabled Jeffrey Epstein? Pretty relevant, no? This article was Originally published on February 25, 2021. A powerful international organization whose members represent the world's largest economies, has issued a strong warning about the threats and risks posed by lawyers, accountants and other facilitators who help their clients commit and conceal financial crimes. We've been talking about this for how long? This is one of the key components of how Jeffrey Epstein was able to operate his criminal enterprise with the help of all of these enablers, all of these lawyers, the accountants, people working inside of the financial district. It was all one gigantic moving part. And people like Indyke and Kahn, the in house lawyer and accountant, played such huge roles in what Epstein was doing. Folks, all you have to do is take a look at the financials, all you have to do is take a look at where Indyke and Kahn's name are all over the paperwork. And you understand very quickly the sort of relationship that they had with Jeffrey Epstein. And it's very obvious that they were at the very least in the know about his financial crimes. These professional enablers, often associated with the secretive offshore finance industry, undermine not only the rule of law, but their own profession, says the Paris based Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development in a new report. So we have all of these different watchdog agencies and groups coming out and talking about how much of an issue all of this is and governments have, they've, they've ignored it for so long. They have ignored the fact that these so called elites are manipulating the system, which with the help of bankers and financiers and lawyers and accountants, this is the dark side of it, right? The underbelly that nobody ever talks about. And to tell you the truth, we probably wouldn't be talking about it either if it wasn't for this lockdown and all of this time on my hands. But once that curtain is drawn back, I don't understand how you can go back to being blind and not understand the stakes and understand what's going on here. This is even bigger than just the Jeffrey Epstein case, right? We're talking about the most elite, richest people in the world, the most powerful people in the world who literally control our lives via laws and all the other stuff, are engaging in some of the most disgusting acts. And what we have with the Paradise Papers, The Luanda leaks, FinCEN files, is an expose on all of it. While it stops short of concrete prescriptions, the report includes broad recommendations aimed at targeting professional enablers and disrupting their activities. Hallelujah. There needs to be some sort of mechanism in place to stop this sort of thing from occurring. And I think it all goes back to, and it all starts with Making sure that there's penalties on the books that slap these people when they get caught doing this, as opposed to just fining them, as opposed to just giving them a little slap on the wrist. Make sure these laws have teeth and that these people suffer the consequences. Because just like having children, if you let them get away with things, they are going to walk all over you. The ending the shell game report was, which cites reporting by the International Consortium of Investigative Journalists in its opening paragraph marks the OECD's first detailed foray into the realm of criminal professional enablers. Well, I say welcome to the party because this is something that is very, very, very, very central to the Jeffrey Epstein case as a whole. And if it was not for these enablers and not for the people helping Jeffrey Epstein from the sidelines and ra right from inside of the mix itself, then Epstein would have never been able to do what he had done for so long. He would have been caught the first time. You know, they, they would have been on to him. But he had so many different people helping him out, enabling him in different facets of this criminal enterprise that it was just a spider's web of ties that bind. A wide term that encompasses a potpourri of whizzes with special skills, including tax advisors, wealth managers, lawyers, accountants, company formation agents and trust companies. We've talked about all of this at length because of the Jeffrey Epstein case. And that's why I introduced the FinCEN files originally to this case. Because it is so important that we understand how these people function as far as in the world of money, as far as pumping lifeblood into the heart of their operation. If we don't understand how that occurs, and we don't understand how these people are moving money around in the shadows and out of the view of governments and regulation agencies, then we're never going to truly, truly understand how this man was able to do what he was able to do. Many of the OECD's 37 member countries, including the United States, the Netherlands and Switzerland, are home to hordes of professional enablers and have poor track records in holding the various sectors accountable. Well, of course, where do you think the bread's getting buttered, right? You think these politicians have the backbone or the coyons to hold these people responsible? Where are they gonna get their checks then? Who's going to donate to their their campaigns? What, you think your $10 donation to your favorite politician really matters? You think that those people really care about you? Yeah, right. Unless you're showing up with the gucci bag full of dough to dump it on their table, then forget about it. And at the end of the day, we all know that money makes everything move. And we know that it is certainly the lifeblood of politics. So if anybody thinks that these politicians are going after their bag men without some serious, serious prodding from the public, they're being very naive. Just take a look at how this is, how this has went down for all of these years. It doesn't matter who the President has been, what side of the aisle they're on. They're all owned by the same people, folks. Recommendations for countries include more education about the role of enablers and in financial crime and tougher laws to hold them criminally liable.
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That's all I've ever cried about from here. Look again, all I want is the system to operate correctly. I know it's asking for a lot equal justice under the law. That's all. If you or I were conducting these sorts of scams, schemes or plots, we'd be in prison. But these guys, for some reason, they get a pass. Oh, they're rich. That's all right. So we'll just find them, we'll take some of their money, and then that money falls into the black pit of the United States government. And then where the hell does it go? I don't know. Maybe some bombs to drop on some unsuspecting people in the Middle east, perhaps. Who the hell knows anymore with the United States government, there's no accountability whatsoever from the top down. Where lawyers can too easily hide behind client attorney privilege and refuse to share possible evidence of crime with law enforcement. For example, the OEC suggests that countries consider new legislation. I agree. And I think that the legislation, the legislation has to be targeted specifically at these people who are enabling criminals, people like Indyke, people like Khan. Imagine if there were some, some laws on the books that actually had teeth to slap these dudes with. Be a watershed moment. The second one of these kinds of people ends up getting slapped in the ass and put in jail. Because up until this point, well, they have gotten a free pass, folks. All countries, the OECD suggests, should create national strategies to tackle professional enablers who actively participate in tax crimes and other financial crimes. That'd be a good idea, huh? I mean, you have the FBI working overtime rounding up people that were at that Capitol protest. So let's, let's get them working a little bit overtime here as well. And how about you wrap up some of these criminal bastards who are involved in the financial system who are ripping us off on a daily basis. The report takes pains to distinguish those complicit in moving and hiding illicit money from professionals who follow the law. Well, of course there has to be that. We have to make the, the, the different, make the difference known, right? There are people that follow the law, there are the lawyers that do the right thing. This doesn't mean everybody is engaging in this. Unfortunately, there's a very large percentage though who are. And it needs to be brought to light. People need to understand there are no good guys, folks, just a bunch of gray characters. The majority of professionals are law abiding and play an important role in assisting businesses and individuals to understand and comply with the law and helping the financial system run smoothly, the report says. I don't know about the. The majority, alright, maybe the majority, but there's a very large minority of scumbags. Such law abiding professionals are to be differentiated from a small set of professionals who use their skills and knowledge of the law to actively promote, market and facilitate the commission of crimes by their clients. Man, I think he's talking directly at Indyke right now. You hear that, Darren? They're talking about you, sir. Professional enablers in the shadows. Poor and wealthy countries alike are under growing pressure to recoup billions of dollars in revenue lost to tax evasion and crack down on financial crime. About time. Because you see folks, it's not us engaging in this financial crime, right? The regular people of the world, we're busy trying to feed our families and make sure our lights stay on. It's These scumbags, the 1% of the 1% that are engaging in this shit on a regular basis, pretty much every transaction they make. Tax advisors, lawyers and accountants are valuable partners for rogue actors who need sophisticated structures and clever advice to outsmart law enforcement. Again, Indyke and Kahn, that was their role within Jeffrey Epstein's operation. You see how it all becomes clear here, folks, since we've done all of the groundwork and all of the legwork and we've put all of the pieces of the puzzle out there and we've started working from the corners and now we're getting to the middle, see how it all starts to fall into place and why it's important to stay on this every single day the way we do. Dr. Katie Benson, a lecturer at Lancaster University Law School who has written extensively on the topic, said that interest in enablers has spiked over recent years. Increasingly there is more of a focus on sanctioning people for doing this. Benson said there is a concern that it doesn't happen enough. Dear Dr. Katie Benson, from your mouth to the maker's ears. It is about time that these enablers in the financial sector are put on display and put on blast. Because these people are literally screwing all of our lives up, folks. All of our lives. Extra couple points on the financial pay a few dollars more on the loan, you know, nickel and dime and you for everything. The OECD's report highlights examples from around the world of professionals hiding clients money, often through shell companies whose owners are hard to trace. In one US case cited in the report, tax advisors prepared fake business losses on tax returns to reduce taxes paid in another from Sweden and the United Kingdom. The OECD described an incident where an unnamed offshore specialist encouraged customers to communicate through encrypted emails and changed banks to avoid detection by police. These are the kind of people that are inhabiting the financial sector, folks. These are the kind of people that Jeffrey Epstein clung to. You know, they say Jeffrey Epstein collected people in mines. He also collected people in the financial sector that you wouldn't think about. Compliance officials, et cetera, et cetera. Anybody that he thought could help him move his money, anybody who he thought could help him with his illicit business, he tried to get his hooks in. Profession Professional facilitators operate in environments where services including setting up companies and hiring nominee directors as front people can be bought on the cheap. The OECD says these services attract criminals who employ enablers to design schemes that hide assets through low cost offshore companies behind more legitimate, seemingly onshore businesses. Boy, where have we seen that before? Seems like we've talked about this quite a bit with Jeffrey Epstein. No, all of the shell companies, all of the business being conducted in the US Virgin Islands, etc, etc was all for the specific purpose of washing his money and hiding it. That way nobody knew how much money he had and he can continue on with his criminal operation. ICIJ's successive exposes of the offshore industry have contributed to the growing interest in enablers. The OECD said for sure 100%. The ICIJ's work here has been superb folks. And, and outing these people is such a, a huge deal for mankind as a whole. And that's not even hyperbole, that's just straight up real talk because this affects us all. And with the coming inflation that's going to smack us all in the teeth. Boy, it's not going to be good if we let these people continue to do what they do. The Panama Papers and the Paradise Papers investigations led by the ICIJ And Sudoit Zeitung helped spark major initiatives among governments to track the suspected facilitation of offshore tax evasion, according to the oecd. And I want to give all of you a shout out out there as well, all of you who have taken an interest in this, who have decided that the financial aspect of this merits more of a look. You folks are moving the needle as well. Just take a look at Sherrod Brown's legislation and look at the amll. Aml.
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The AML that was inserted in the new bill. What do you think that just happened overnight because these government officials want to hamstring themselves? Hell no. It happened because people are waking up and people are not happy about what they're seeing. In 2018, more than two years after the Panama Papers investigation, US prosecutors announced criminal charges against Dick Gaffey, a Massachusetts accountant whose services were exposed through reporting by journalists. Gaffey pleaded guilty to conspiring with US Taxpayers to help them evade taxes and launder money. He was sentenced to more than three years in prison. So there you go. A guy laundering money, three years in prison. What about Indyke? What about Khan? When is their day coming? Last year, in fallout from ICIJ's 2017 Paradise Papers investigation, Singapore's financial watchdog fined the trust company Asia City almost $800,000 for serious breaches of anti money laundering rules. And after the firm missed or ignored red flags, including the source of one client's funds. So I don't even want to hear missed. They ignored it because they were going to enrich themselves. And we see it over and over and over again with these institutions. In December, following ICIJ's 2020-20 Luanda Leaks investigation, Portuguese regulators recommending recommended auditing companies face criminal charges for failing to report transactions that bore hallmarks of fraud and deals that helped Angola billionaire Isabel dos Santos grow rich. So look, the worm certainly is turning right and people are starting to take notice of what's going on here. And if we don't understand the role that these lawyers and accountants and enablers play, then we're never, ever, ever going to be able to stop this. The OECD report notes that some countries have started to act. The United Kingdom allows charges to be brought against enablers suspected of involvement in criminal activity. In Mexico, facilitators of crime can be jailed for up to 16 years. India's special task force to identify and eradicate shell companies also tracks the specialists who, who make it possible, according to the oecd. Now that's a good idea. Pretty nice. That These comp. These countries are making it have a little bit of teeth, right? 16 years in Mexico for being an enabler. Yeah, high five for that one, folks. Meanwhile, here in America, the party rages on for these scumbags. Other countries struggle with the novelty of having to prove a criminal case against experts who have long operated in the shadows. According to the oecd, independent reports reveal that the United States, from where lawyers, accountants and real estate agents routinely assist criminal schemes, has a particularly poor Track record. In 2016, the Financial Action Task Force, which sets global standards for anti money laundering laws, describe the US Weak regulation of enablers as the most significant supervisory gap in its fight against financial crime. The OECD will discuss its report next month during the organization's annual Anti Corruption Summit. So the United States folks needs to get its act together. And you know where I'm at with that. The reason they have not cracked down on it is because these people are the ones that fill the their banks with money for their political runs. What else could it be? There's no other explanation for this. So let's hope that the United States gets on board and the corrupt politicians in the United States start to get weeded out. Yeah, right. And we get some people in there that actually want to hold people accountable for the crimes they commit. Imagine that. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobbycapucciorotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com youm can also find me on twitter-o b b ycap. Ucci all of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. To everybody who has donated to the podcast recently and and in the past. Thank you folks so much. As for the show, for the rest of the day we'll see where the news brings us. Folks, if there's nothing new to discuss, we're just gonna hammer out a couple more flashback episodes. If something new pops up, we'll have a daily drop tonight. No matter what. I will be back tomorrow morning and we will get ready for the day at hand. Alright everybody, enjoy your Saturday and I will talk to you all later.
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Article today folks, from July 11th of 2019 and it's an article that goes into the psychology, a little bit of what was occurring with Jeffrey Epstein and his core four. Now we've touched on this a little bit here on the podcast previously and I let you know that I'm not qualified to delve into it. Right? So there's A psychologist in this article who is going to talk a little bit more about the psychology aspect when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and the Core 4. So I thought that this would be a good add to the catalog, considering I am not qualified to speak on the psychological aspect of this. Not in the least. I certainly don't know anything about the study of psychology besides what I learned in my Psych 101 class in college. So I've always, you know, shied away from that. I never jump into those sort of topics because I don't have a good handle on it. So I'm not going to, you know, hop on the podcast and fake the funk and act like I know about psychology One. I don't. But with this article, I think that this is going to be a good addition to the catalog because we'll hear from a psychologist here and, you know, obviously this person is qualified to talk about the psychology of the situation. Now, is this psychologist that, you know, was working on the inside or. Or. Or with Jeffrey Epstein? No, no, not at all. This is somebody who's giving their opinion from. From the outside looking in. But I think it's, you know, a good addition hearing from an actual psychologist. When we talk about certain things on the podcast previously, like Stockholm Syndrome, etc. Etc. You know, those are things that obviously we all understand what. What they are and the fact that, you know, a lot of people who are in situations, such as the girls who were abused by Epstein end up with Stockholm syndrome. Right. But it's a topic psychology in general that I'm not very well versed in. So I have never gotten into the weeds there. Right. We've never really gotten down into the weeds and discussed the psychological aspect of this case. So we're gonna add this article to the catalog today, and we'll see what this psychologist has to say about it. This article is from Fox News. It was published on July 11, and the author is Perry Chiramante. What motivated four women to allegedly assist disgraced multimillionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein in his abuse of dozens of underage girls? The answer may consist of three possible scenarios, according to a prominent New York City psychiatrist. So again, this is somebody who is on the outside looking in, not somebody who, you know, was working the case per se. They weren't hired by Epstein or hired by the. The lawyers for the girls, anything like that. This is just a New York City psychiatrist who is looking at the facts that are available and giving their opinion on what they believe occurred as far as the cycle, the the psychology aspect. Right, the psychological aspect. Dr. Alan Manovitz, a Manhattan based psychiatrist, stresses that it's difficult to determine what their motivations may have been in allegedly assisting Epstein. Yeah, for sure. We don't. You look, nobody's in their head, nobody's in their brains. Nobody knows why they did what they did, why they would choose to help Jeffrey Epstein. Obviously, we know that there were carrots dangled. We know that there was money, prestige, great haircuts at top end salons, food at top end restaurants whenever you wanted it. You know, $200,000 salaries. So we know all of that. Right? Those are definitely motivators. But from a psychological aspect, from, from the way the brain works, who knows what, what made these ladies tick. Who knows why they thought it would be a good idea to assist Jeffrey Epstein. It's complicated to understand whether they did it voluntarily or were controlled a la Patty Hearst. Manovitz said. And look, I agree to a certain extent that Jeffrey Epstein was certainly a cult leader and he had these people wrapped around his finger. But at the end of the day, does that really matter? Did it matter that Manson was a cult leader and supposedly he told his followers to kill people? Of course it didn't. Manson still got charged and went up for the crime. Right. And so did the people who committed the crimes. So, you know, you can, you can say that you're controlled or whatever it may be, but at the end of the day, you need to have some personal responsibility for your actions. And we've lost that in America, for sure. People aren't responsible for their own actions anymore. It's always blame somebody else. Oh, he's passing the buck and I'm pretty tired of it, to be honest with you. There are different psychological pathways to explain inexplicable behavior, he said. Or one is. The alleged accomplices might simply be sociopaths by nature. Another is more complex, according to Manovitz. And I would say that all of these gals have at the very least some. Some sociopathic tendencies, right? To hang out with Epstein for as long as they did and to be involved with Epstein for as long as they were involved with him. There has to be a bit of sociopathic tendencies there. Right? Beside, you know, again, I'll always say with the, the exception of Nadia Marcinkova, because she was purchased as a child, right? If, if anyone can use the excuse of Stockholm syndrome or mental abuse, it's Nadia Marcinkova. The other three, I'm sorry, but I'm not buying that with the other three. For Most of us, the fear of punishment prevents us from committing crimes. But how many of us would do. How many of us would do it if we knew we could get away with it? He said, actually, not that many. However, there are some who learn strategies to neutralize their moral compass. And it is these people who may pose risks in society later in life. So definitely Jeffrey Epstein is one of those people, in my opinion, right? He never had a moral compass his whole life. He was born effed up. He was born a monster. These weren't tendencies that were learned. These were tendencies that he just. They were, there were inside of him, okay? This is the kind of person he was. He was evil incarnate, this man. And it wasn't something that he, he built going along, it was something that he nurtured going along, right? These feelings inside of him, these disgusting urges and these drives, for example, moral disengagement, the process of convincing oneself that ethical standards do not apply in some contexts or allow us to rationalize criminal acts or those that harm others. He adds, and we see that with Jeffrey Epstein, for sure, and we see it with Ghislaine Maxwell. They completely had themselves detached from reality. They thought that they were living in their own world, a world of their own creation, where they could get away with whatever they wanted and commit crimes against whoever they wanted with no repercussions. And they were allowed to do so for decades. So it fed into their beliefs, right? It fed into their mental illness and that they were above the law, that they were special, that they, they should garner special treatment. In reality, we know that these people were just sick and mentally ill. A third pathway can be psycho, can be the psychology of Stockholm Syndrome, which occurs when hostages or victims develop a psychological bond with their captors. It refers to a 1973 bank robbery in Stockholm in which hostages were taken. And this is something that I definitely for sure think applies to Nadia Marcinkova. Stockholm syndrome is definitely a real thing and it can be crippling. We've seen it time and time again with survivors of this sort of situation or kidnapping, etc, etc, so we definitely know that Stockholm Syndrome is a thing. And for me, the only person it could apply to in this situation is again, Nadia Marcinkova. The other three aren't gonna get that shield for me. They're not going to get that, that bit of, you know, slack from me because they knew what they were doing. They weren't purchased as children, they weren't brought over here and groomed from, from childhood. So, you know, miss me with all of that bs. This pathway is about people who suffer from Stockholm syndrome and are acting under the control of the controller, said Manovitz. In a hostage or domestic situation or a work situation, the same person can be a good controller or a bad controller. The person being controlled wants to stay out of trouble and not have the bad part of the controller emerge. It psychologically forces you to try and see the world through the eyes of the distorted world of the good version of the controller to give you a sense of hope. And again, I don't mean to harp on it, but we see that with Nadia Marshinkova. It's. She has all of the telltale signs of Stockholm syndrome. And if she would come forward right now and step to the plate and. And help authorities, then she could, you know, maybe give herself a little bit of a different light here, right? At least somebody who is searching for redemption. And then on the flip side, she could expect to receive a little bit of a lighter charge, a little bit of a lighter sentence than the other core four conspirators. But her staying quiet, her not coming forward, what it does is it puts her squarely, squarely on the side of the Core Four. And therefore, as somebody, if I was prosecuting this case, I would not give her leniency. Everything is contingent on her coming forward and helping the case. You then try to attach yourself to that and detach yourself from the bad. He continued. You wind up on your toes to see the world through the eyes. Because of this attachment, one almost becomes brainwashed in wanting to keep them happy. And, you know, look, that's all of those, the Core four girls, as far as brainwashed to keep Jeffrey Epstein happy. And, you know, the other three, in my opinion, went in with their eyes wide open, and it was more of a financial agreement that turned into a, you know, a Kool Aid drinking situation where they looked at Jeffrey Epstein as some God. But going into it, the three, Groff, Ross and Kellan, they knew exactly what they were getting into. They knew exactly what they were getting into. So, you know, don't get me wrong, once they were in his. His orbit, I'm sure that he groomed them, all three of them, and molded them into what he wanted. But at any time these women could have stepped away from. From Epstein, gave up those salaries and went to the authorities. But. But all of them chose to stay quiet, and all of them chose to plead the Fifth when they were called upon to get justice moving in the right direction. All of these psychological understandings do not forgive heinous behavior and Crimes, Manovitz stressed. And I've said that, too. There's no excuse, there's no getting out of what you have done. Not even for Nadia Marcinkova. Maybe a lesser of a sentence than the other gals, but this is. No, you're not going to use this as a shield to avoid prosecution. According to the new federal indictment unsealed Monday, Epstein created a vast network of underage victims for him to sexually exploit by conspiring with employees, associates and others to run what was essentially a sex trafficking enterprise between 2002 and 2005. We know it was much longer than that as well, right? We know that it goes all the way back to the 90s, and we know that it went all the way up until his second arrest. So we understand that this isn't just, you know, a three year deal where Epstein was trying to be smooth. We know that this is a decades long operation that spanned continents. It appeared that some of those associates included a group of four women who were granted immunity in a controversial plea deal made by then prosecutor and current Secretary of Labor Alexander Acosta. Epstein worked in concert with others to obtain minors not only for his sexual gratification, but also for the sexual gratification of others, according to a line from the court order. And that's significant, right? So it's stating right here in the court order that it wasn't only Epstein who was involved in this. In the court order itself, it's telling you this was a criminal conspiracy, a criminal enterprise, and all of these people took part in the ritualistic abuse of these, of these girls. So how is this not a RICO case? How aren't these people slammed in the slammer? It's baffling, folks, isn't it? The women who were granted immunity include a former Epstein assistant, Sarah Kellen, who allegedly kept a Rolodex of young women to recruit for Triswith Epstein. She has since married NASCAR race car driver Brian Vickers and started her own interior design firm called SLK Designs. A recent article by the Daily Beast refers to public records showing that Kellen once operated SLK from a midtown Manhattan building owned by Epstein's brother. Now, if you haven't listened to the Core four series yet, make sure you pop back on there. Episode two is all about Sarah Kellen Vickers Adriana Ross, a former model from Poland who was hired by Epstein in 2002 to work at his Florida mansion and allegedly helped set up sex sessions for the billionaire. She was questioned in 2010 regarding any participation by Prince Andrew and the trafficking ring set up by Epstein. She had no answers to give. Leslie Groff, another former assistant who allegedly coordinated travel arrangements with young girls and scheduled massage sessions for her boss, Nadia Marcinkova, one of Epstein's alleged sex slaves, who allegedly participated in his trysts with underage girls. She is now a commercial pilot certified by the faa, and is a social media influencer who goes by the name Global Girl. Well, you could definitely, if like, like with the Sarah Kellen, Edward Vickers. I mean, if you're interested in learning more about Nadia Marcinkova, make sure you check out that Core four series where we delve deep into who all of these girls are. Manovitz did not speculate as to what may have motivated these women to be complicit in Epstein's sex trafficking ring, who. But he said that many people, if they feel trapped or forced to stay in line by a controlling figure in their lives, comply as a way to cope with a dire situation thrust upon them. I don't, you know, I guess that that can occur. Right. But when it comes to this case, these gals all came into this with eyes wide open. They all knew what they were up to. In my opinion, there's no, there's no excuse for what they did. There's no psychological shield for what they did. These were grown adults who entered into this with eyes wide open and of their own willingness to be a part of this out of greed or whatever. The motivation was not named in the plea deal, but also alleged to have been complicit in helping to operate Epstein's ring, is former girlfriend and longtime confidant and co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. In a 2015 report, Virginia Roberts filed a legal complaint in the state of Florida in which she accused Maxwell of being Epstein's madam. According to an article by the Guardian at the time. In the complaint in which Roberts was originally listed as Jane Doe Number three, it was alleged that Roberts was approached in 1999 by Maxwell when she was just 15 and was pursued to sleep with Epstein. Roberts also alleges in the suit that she was used as a sex slave for nearly three years. And remember, this is an older article and we've seen all of the evidence from Virginia Roberts. Right. We know that everything that she has talked about has been legit and on up front. So it's important that we make sure that we continue to chase down the things that she's talked about and not for, not forget players like Marvin Minsky and other people who might be sliding under the radar. Right. Because at the end of the day, none of these people should ever feel safe if they were involved in this. In December of last year, the New York Post reported that a separate lawsuit was brought against Epstein in Manhattan in which the plaintiff, Sarah Ransom, claimed that both he and Maxwell coerced her into having sex while she was in her 20s. And again, look, we talk a lot about the underage aspect of this case, but I don't care how old these girls were or these women were. If they were assaulted by Epstein and Maxwell, then they're part of this case. They need to be taken care of as well, and they need justice as well. It doesn't matter if it was just, you know, if they were 25 or 45, who cares? Epstein and Maxwell were serial abusers. And what they did to people that came into their atmosphere is utterly repugnant. And the fact that it was allowed to go on for so long is almost as gross as the actual act itself. As recently as last April, a New Jersey woman came forward in a sworn affidavit with accusations of her own against Epstein and Maxwell. According to the Miami Herald, Maxwell, 57, is the daughter of Robert Maxwell, a disgraced publishing mogul who was accused of theft from his company's pension funds to prevent bankruptcy. Boy, she comes from great stock, huh? Great stock. And also, that just goes to show you what I was talking about with the money laundering aspect. Right? Her dad was a prolific money launderer. Her dad was an embezzler. You really think that didn't trickle down to old daughter? Oh, dear. Of mine, she was on daddy's knee, learning all of the tricks in the trade. Tricks of the trade? All of the tricks in the. Of the trade. From the cloak and dagger operations that her dad was part of. This wasn't just a sex trafficking ring. In my opinion, this was a money laundering operation as well. The former owner of the New York Daily News was found dead near the Canary Islands in the waters off the Atlantic Ocean just days after he was reported in. Reported missing from his yacht, the Lady Ghislaine, named after his daughter. Maxwell was born and raised in England and immigrated to America in 1991 after her father's death, becoming a fixture in New York City's social scene. Maxwell has been photographed over the years hobnobbing. Hobnobbing with Prince Andrew, the Clintons, and Donald Trump. Yeah, look, there's no doubt about it. She was the gateway. She was the gateway into the world of the socialites, into the world of the polite society of New York the same way Broc was the gateway for Epstein to get his foot in the door with the scientists. The Oxford educated Maxwell was the youngest of nine children of Robert Maxwell and his wife, Dr. Elizabeth Betty Maxwell, a French born researcher who authored two books on the Holocaust and was also a descendant of the Huguenot aristocracy. Oh, makes sense, huh? Makes sense. So we got a little bit of the. The inbreeding for Ghislaine Maxwell along with her just plain old stupidity, huh? Makes a lot of sense. Now you could see her, the inbreeding taking its toll during her time in college. During the late 80s, Maxwell started the KitKat club, a speaker and discussion club for women in her native England. In 2012, Maxwell founded the Terramar Project, a non profit group focused on protecting oceans and even gave a TED talk on protecting the oceans. The TED Talk shit is nonsense as well. You know what? These people are all one big group of sick, disgusting bastards. Anytime you see one of these people getting up on top of their ivory tower and speaking down to you, remember they all hung out with Ghislaine Maxwell. They all hung out with Jeffrey Epstein. They all knew the deal. All right? So next time one of these idiots gets on their ivory tower and attempts to speak down to you and attempts to tell you how you should see the world, just remember who they hobnob with. According to a 2002 profile of Epstein in New York Magazine, she was described as someone with a high octane social life that helped boost his profile among New York's high society. Right there in the article. It tells you what I've been telling you for months. Okay? Ghislaine Maxwell was the vehicle that got Epstein into the higher society of New York. And once there, he was like a bull in a china shop. Maxwell only dated Epstein for a brief period, but they remained friends for years after. Not friends, stop it. Business associates, co conspirators, both being run as assets by. Insert your favorite intelligence agency here. It's a mysterious relationship that they have. Journalist David Patrick Columbia said in the New York magazine interview. In one way, they are soulmates, yet they are hardly companions anymore. It's a nice conventional relationship where they serve each other's purposes. Boy, how telling is that statement? That is exactly what they do. They're like a parrot that. They're like parasites, right? Leeching off of each other with their symbiotic relationship. And there was no love there, at least from Epstein. Ghislaine might have, you know, had some flutters in her heart for Epstein, but Epstein was a cold hearted, mass serial pervert who had love for nobody in his heart. And I don't. I wouldn't even say Ghislaine had love for Jeffrey Epstein. She was enamored with Epstein. She respected the way he conducted himself. She respected his. His deviousness and how evil he was. Because within him, she found a kindred soul, right? Somebody that was just like her. Somebody else that was hiding in the shadows. And once they came together, they formed the brain trust of the most heinous, disgusting, evil human trafficking ring of our time. And the saddest part, folks, people in power knew what was going on. People in power were protecting them. This isn't a conspiracy at this point. These are just facts, okay? These are just facts. And it's sad that in the year 2020, 12 years after this man's first arrest and decades after he started his crime spree, there has still not been one single arrest of Jeffrey Epstein's co conspirators. Still no answers from the D.A. no answers from the SDNY. All we have are two lowly jailhouse guards who are being brought up on criminal charges in this case. Now how does that pass any smell test? How is that even acceptable, even barely acceptable anywhere on this planet, considering all the evidence that is out there for these coconspirators to be rounded up? How is it possible that only two lowly jail guards are in jail right now? What's the deal, folks? Right? What is the deal? Where are the authorities? And why have they not done their jobs yet? All right, folks, if you'd like to contact me, you could do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O b B Y C A P U c c I@protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter at B o b b ycap u c c I in the description.
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: July 10, 2026
Episode Theme:
A deep dive into the machinery behind Jeffrey Epstein’s criminal enterprise, with a focus on the critical roles played by his inner circle—especially the lawyers, accountants, and key female associates who enabled his vast sex trafficking operation. The episode explores both the financial and psychological drivers of those who protected and empowered Epstein, tying in recent investigative findings and expert commentary.
This episode explores two vital facets of the Epstein criminal web:
Bobby Capucci draws from international investigative journalism, regulatory reports, and new psychological commentary to dissect Epstein’s operation and its enablers.
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Three Motivational Pathways Identified:
No Excuses: Regardless of motivation, participation does not absolve guilt.
On Financial Crime & Accountability:
“If you let them get away with things, they are going to walk all over you.” — Bobby, [07:16]
On Political Cynicism:
“You think your $10 donation to your favorite politician really matters? … Unless you’re showing up with the Gucci bag full of dough to dump it on their table, then forget about it.” — Bobby, [09:41]
On Ghislaine Maxwell’s Influence:
“This wasn’t just a sex trafficking ring. In my opinion, this was a money laundering operation as well… Her dad was an embezzler. You really think that didn’t trickle down to old daughter?” — Bobby, [53:18]
On Systemic Failure:
“How does that pass any smell test? … Only two lowly jailhouse guards in jail right now? What’s the deal, folks? Right? What is the deal?” — Bobby, [01:05:09]
Bobby Capucci’s style is punchy, outraged, and colloquial—combining detailed research with direct challenge to the status quo. He rarely minces words (“parasites,” “scumbags,” “party rages on for these scumbags”). He frequently appeals to listeners for vigilance and justice, emphasizing public responsibility in demanding accountability.
This episode is a comprehensive critique of not just Epstein and his criminal accomplices, but of the wider legal, political, and financial systems that allowed him to thrive. Drawing on investigative reporting, international regulatory efforts, and psychological analysis, Bobby Capucci unpacks the layers of complicity—moral, professional, and systemic—that surrounded Epstein’s operation. He names names, challenges excuses, and calls for genuine accountability for Epstein’s enablers both within and beyond his infamous inner circle.
Further resources, episode notes, and contact information are provided at the end of the show.