Mega Edition: Nadia Marcinkova And The Blurred Line (7/6/26)

Summary

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The Epstein Chronicles – "Mega Edition: Nadia Marcinkova And The Blurred Line" (7/6/26)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: July 7, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this in-depth "Mega Edition" episode, Bobby Capucci confronts one of the most complex and morally ambiguous figures in the Jeffrey Epstein criminal web: Nadia Marcinkova. Framed by recent coverage from the Daily Mail, the episode explores Marcinkova's contradictory status as both a primary Epstein "core four" accomplice and a survivor of his trafficking. Capucci offers his characteristic unfiltered analysis, questioning Marcinkova’s responsibility, complicity, and the nature of victimhood when grooming and abuse are involved.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The "Core Four" and Legal Immunity

• Capucci identifies the "Core Four" key Epstein female accomplices: Sarah Kellen Vickers, Adriana Ross, Leslie Groff, and Nadia Marcinkova.
• All four were protected under Epstein’s controversial 2007 non-prosecution agreement.
• A unique emphasis is given to Marcinkova, who entered Epstein’s circle as a child, allegedly "purchased" from her family and groomed from age 14.

“Of all of the Core Four members, Nadia Marcinkova is the one that has the most unique story, in my opinion… purchased by Jeffrey Epstein, groomed into his sex slave, and then in turn she became one of the Core Four, one of the recruiters, and in fact an abuser herself.”
— Bobby Capucci [00:33]

Victim or Perpetrator? Exploring Marcinkova’s Story

• Capucci frequently admits his struggle to judge Marcinkova, acknowledging her initial victimhood but also her subsequent role as a perpetrator.
• He stresses the psychological complications of grooming, trauma, and normalization that befell Marcinkova.
• Yet, Capucci maintains that justice requires accountability, especially if Marcinkova does not testify or come forward.

“Obviously she has to pay the price for what she has Done. But we have to be considerate of the circumstances that led there.”
— Bobby Capucci [01:55]

• Marcinkova's apparent loyalty to Epstein, visiting him 67 times during his 2008 jail sentence, is interpreted as “slavish devotion.”
• Capucci wonders why, even after Epstein's death, Marcinkova has not come forward publicly.

“Epstein can't hurt her anymore. There's nothing he can do to her anymore. So if she's staying quiet now, it is because she was complicit... and she is that loyal to Jeffrey Epstein, and she is that bought in to Jeffrey Epstein that she's never, ever going to give up any information.”
— Bobby Capucci [05:15]

First-Hand Accounts: Abuse and Complicity

• Multiple survivor reports, as cited from Palm Beach Police and court testimony, describe Marcinkova’s direct involvement in abuse:
  • Survivors describe being paid to have sex with Marcinkova while Epstein watched, took photos, or directed sexual encounters.
  • Marcinkova is alleged to have pressured girls to participate in sex acts involving Epstein and herself, sometimes in group settings.
  • Virginia Roberts Giuffre and other accusers cite Marcinkova as both participant and handler.

“A Palm Beach girl told police she was 16 when she made the first of hundreds of trips to Epstein’s mansion, breaking down in tears as she described how she often had sex with Marcinkova. Epstein would allegedly watch and choreograph her activities.”
— Bobby Capucci [22:09]

The Jean Luc Brunel & Modeling Agency Connection

• Capucci explores the theory that Jean Luc Brunel and his modeling agency MC2 played a central role in trafficking Marcinkova (and others) to Epstein under the guise of modeling opportunities.
• Brunel’s possible criminal liability is discussed, with Capucci demanding global law enforcement (via Interpol) step in.

“Jean Luc Brunel obviously facilitated this transaction... This dude needs to be black bagged...snatch this dude off the street...and bring him to face justice.”
— Bobby Capucci [19:58]

Legal Nuances: Immunity and Accountability

• The episode discusses how Marcinkova, Kellen, Groff, and Ross were named in Epstein’s non-prosecution agreement and thus immunized, though Capucci is skeptical that indictments won't come from the recent grand jury.
• Capucci and his co-host debate Marcinkova’s culpability, pondering whether she should still face prosecution, with some empathy for her background but little tolerance for silence.

“She needs to be indicted, and then the court needs to figure it out.”
— Bobby Capucci [06:57]

• The Mc2 modeling agency’s bookkeeper claimed Marcinkova never actually modeled but was one of several trafficked teens.

On Survivor Testimony and Evidence

• Capucci highlights survivor claims that Marcinkova was forced, as an underage teen, to engage in and later facilitate abuse.
• He calls for more transparency about photos and evidence seized from Epstein properties, including hard drives and photos that may implicate Marcinkova and others.

The Psychology and Ethics of Accountability

• The show’s hosts acknowledge the complexity of holding someone criminally accountable for acts begun as a child victim but continued as an adult.
• Capucci expresses a desire to have Marcinkova tell her story publicly, which could provide clarity and possibly affect her legal outcomes.

“One thing that I can see clearly anyway, and for me anyway, is that this lady is not an abuser. She is somebody who was victimized by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, someone who was sold as a child and someone whose story one day certainly should be told.”
— Bobby Capucci [49:05]

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “There is zero chance I’d be sending my 14 or 15 year old girl from Slovakia to America without my supervision for any reason.”
  — Bobby Capucci [18:21]

• “When she was too old for him, she outlived her usefulness ... her job now was to procure different girls.”
  — Bobby Capucci [49:55]

• “I would love beyond anything to have a talk with Nadia Marcinkova, a few hours, sit down with her, hear her story and set the record straight once and for all.”
  — Bobby Capucci [50:55]

• On Sarah Kellen Vickers: “She should have her house raided, her door kicked in. She should be dragged out like the criminal that I think that she is...”
  — Bobby Capucci [11:33]

• “You could have came out a long time ago, Nadia, and put a stamp on things, but instead you haven’t done that.”
  — Bobby Capucci [25:44]

• “The more I look into Nadia Marcinkova’s story... the more you look into her past and the way that she came into even being part of this story... it’s almost unimaginable. A young girl sold to a guy like Jeffrey Epstein and then lives with him for all these years.”
  — Bobby Capucci [26:47]

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Timestamps for Major Segments

• 00:30 – 06:57: Introduction to Nadia Marcinkova and the complication of punishing a victim-turned-perpetrator.
• 07:24 – 11:05: Survivor accounts of abuse, Marcinkova’s “slavish devotion” to Epstein, and questions of her accountability.
• 13:58 – 16:47: Public and legal reactions, new photos, and Marcinkova’s refusal to comment or cooperate.
• 16:49 – 19:57: Dissection of legal immunity, ties with modeling agencies, Jean Luc Brunel involvement.
• 19:58 – 22:09: Deep-dive into the trafficking mechanism and survivor allegations.
• 22:09 – 25:44: Marcinkova’s post-Epstein life, new career, and continued silence.
• 26:45 – 37:59: Re-examining Marcinkova's origins via Daily Mail articles; Capucci’s evolving view as information surfaces.
• 37:59 – 49:05: Survivor police statements detailing the sexual exploitation machinery.
• 49:05 – 55:37: Legal ramifications, immunity complexities, concluding reflections on blame, accountability, and survivorhood.

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Flow & Tone

Capucci maintains his trademark raw, passionate, and sometimes profane delivery. He balances outrage at the system (and enablers) with a nuanced, sometimes conflicted empathy for Marcinkova, shaped by her own victimization. The episode is rich in survivor-centric discussion, driven by documented reports and a distinctly layman’s perspective, punctuated by moments of dark humor and exasperation at elite impunity.

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Summary

This episode offers a portrait of Nadia Marcinkova that is at once damning and deeply humanizing, challenging listeners to wrestle with the blurred line between victim and perpetrator in the sprawling Epstein scandal. Capucci presses for both accountability and understanding, ultimately underscoring that only a full, transparent accounting—including Marcinkova’s own voice—can unlock real justice for survivors.

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Contact Information:

• Email: bobbycapucciprotonmail.com
• Twitter: @bobby_capucci

All episode links and references can be found in the description box.

Transcript

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[Bobby Capucci]

Free Epstein and the Core 4. If it wasn't for these women that were working below him and Ghislaine Maxwell, this operation could have never been what it was. And all of these women are protected under the non prosecution agreement. We're talking about Sarah Kellen Vickers, we're talking about Adriana Ross, we're talking about Leslie Groff, and we're talking about the subject of today's article, Nadia Marcinkova. Now, of all of the Core Four members, Nadia Marcinkova is the one that has the most unique story, in my opinion. She was supposedly purchased by Jeffrey Epstein, groomed into his sex slave, and then in turn she became one of the Core Four, one of the recruiters, and in fact an abuser herself. Now, I think her circumstances are a bit different from the other girls, considering how she came into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere. But at the same time, that doesn't mean that you don't get punished for what you have done. Especially considering that Nadia Marcin Kova stayed so loyal to Jeffrey Epstein after his death. Now, of course, I don't wanna be too critical of somebody who was groomed from the age of 14 for this lifestyle, right? I'm not capable of looking at a situation like this and knowing the psychology. I'm not a psychologist and I won't even attempt to play one. All I can do is offer my opinion in this situation. And my opinion is if Nadia Marcinkova not play ball with prosecution going forward, then she should be up for the same penalties that the other members of the Core Four are inevitably going to get slapped with. If Marcinkova cooperates against the other members of the Core Four and Ghislaine Maxwell, perhaps there can be a discussion about her getting a bit lighter of a sentence. She still has to go to prison, obviously, but a lighter of a sentence might be something in the cards for Marcinkova considering her circumstances. So it's a tough situation, right, with her. I mean, obviously she has to pay the price for what she has Done. But we have to be considerate of the circumstances that led there. So let's jump into this article from the Daily Mail and let's see what they think about Nadia Marcinkova. This article, Daily Mail headline, the Model who Flew into the Abyss. They look so innocent. But behind these new pictures from Jeffrey Epstein's pedophile island lie dark claims about the beautiful pilot said to be his accomplice. So ask Tom Leonard, was she abused or an abuser? And the author of this piece is Tom Leonard, and that most certainly is the question at hand. Right? We've been debating this between ourselves for how long now? I know that myself and Lisa and Jen from the Prince and the Pervert podcast have spoken privately about this. And it's one of those tough situations, right? I am certainly not a psychologist. Hell, I can't even figure out what's wrong with my own brain, never mind trying to look into somebody else's life and figure out what's wrong with them. But the fact of the matter is, even though she was groomed from a young age, she has had ample chances to come forward since Epstein's death, and she has not done so. That, that, that is on public record anyway. Perhaps she's working with authorities behind the scenes, but it's a. It's a real big black eye for her not coming forward in, you know, with. In the wake of Epstein's death. Epstein can't hurt her anymore. There's nothing he can do to her anymore. So if she's staying quiet now, it is because she was complicit and she is that loyal to Jeffrey Epstein, and she is that bought in to Jeffrey Epstein that she's never, ever going to give up any information. And I'm not sure which way it's going to go, right? But most certainly I can tell you this. She needs to be indicted, and then the court needs to figure it out. A hike through the woods and a pair of friends sitting at a table in the Caribbean sun. It all seems perfectly innocent. Although the only man in the photos surrounded as ever by attractive young women, is Jeffrey Epstein. And as we now know, nothing to do with Epstein was ever innocent. That is for sure. Nothing this guy ever did was innocent. Everything he did or. Or was involved in was a calculated plot to increase his own power and his own standing. For the towering blonde in these newly unearthed pictures is Slovak former model Nadia Marcinkova, now a glamorous jet pilot with her own aviation company, but once allegedly one of the billionaire pedophile's most depraved alkalites. And it's true, right? Nadia Marcinkova was involved in some heavy. She was engaged in sexual acts with the girls at Jeffrey Epstein's behest while he took pictures and videotaped all sorts of stuff. But again, I wanna throw the book at this lady, right? I wanna, I want her in prison for the rest of her life. But I'm trying to be cognizant of what led her there. Before I started researching this case, I would have been throw her underneath the prison. No key, no anything put. But it's much more nuanced than that, right? There's a lot that goes into situations like this. And for us, giving a layman's, a layman's opinion on the situation is fine, right? This is a big case. Everybody's entitled to their opinions. That's all we have pretty much at this point. But I just don't, I don't know. It's one of those tough situations. Often the teenage girls who ministered to the twisted needs of Epstein at his Palm beach mansion found they weren't always alone with him. Sometimes they told police they were joined by an Eastern European they believed to be his girlfriend. Epstein would allegedly pay the girls to have sex with Marcinkova while he watched and took photos that he later displayed around the house. And this again calls into question all of the people who would go to Epstein's house and then act like they didn't think anything was out of place or weird.

[Podcast Co-host]

Bitch.

[Bobby Capucci]

If there's pictures of him with all these girls on the walls and displayed prominently throughout the house, how are you gonna tell me that you don't think anything is weird?

[Podcast Co-host]

Shut up.

[Bobby Capucci]

At other times, they said Marcinkova then aged around 19, would pressure them to have sex with her and the billionaire pedophile. Sometimes in orgies, British accuser Sarah Ransom said she once had sex with Marcinkova and Alan Dershowitz, Epstein's high powered lawyer in New York, although he denies it. And again, there's another reference to dirty Dersh. Mr. I kept my underpants on. The legend of the Martha Vineyards Naked Volleyball Championship League. How many times this idiot going to be referenced? How many times are girls going to talk about Alan Dershowitz and his involvement? Oh, we know that dirty old Dershdursh is going to make himself the victim like usual. Oh, we know he's going to sue like a maniac. But the fact remains your old scraggly, wrinkly ass has not answered one single question. Epstein reportedly told some of his Survivors. Marcinkova was his sex slave after he had bought her, age 14, from her parents in Eastern Europe. So there's the rub. I don't know how anyone who has compassion for a situation like this and people in a situation like this can't be torn about Marcinkova. Of course we want her punished, but at the same time, I feel super bad about a kid who is sold to someone like Epstein at 14 years old. That has to be one traumatizing experience. So again, I think that this is a situation where we need to have the courts figure this out big time. Of course we can speculate about it. We can all have our opinions about it. That's what's happened. That's what happens in cases like this. Like I always say when we're here on the podcast together, it's like we're all at work around the water cooler, shooting the shit. And Marcin Kova, it's, it's a very hot button issue with a lot of people who cover this case. People are really torn about it. She certainly showed a slavish devotion when she visited him 67 times during the year he spent behind bars in Florida in 2008 for procuring a minor for prostitution. And again, Marcinkova cannot just be let off by her circumstances, right? That's definitely not what I'm talking about. She has to face some criminal penalty here because the girls that she abused, well, they have to get their justice. And if Marcin Cova was involved in that abuse, then she has to pay the price. Marcinkova, now 34 year old pilot calling herself Global Girl on social media, has once more been dragged into the Epstein scandal. And after the new photographs taken on his private island were revealed. Also in the spotlight is Sarah Kellen, another of Epstein's young female alcohols and the alleged deputy to Ghislaine Maxwell, currently remanded in custody in a New York jail, accused of recruiting girls as young as 14 for him. Now, Sarah Kellen, on the other hand, I think that she should be treated exactly like Ghislaine Maxwell.

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[Bobby Capucci]

I'm not even bullshitting about that. I think that she. She should have her house raided, her door kicked in. She should be dragged out like the. The criminal that I think that she is, and she should face trial for what she has done. This lady, Sarah Kellen Vickers, has been able to dip, duck and dodge away from the spotlight for way too long. She's living that high life, right? Still living that high life, married to her ex NASCAR husband, Brian Vickers, who is also a partner at Crown Predator Holdings. Pretty ironic name, right? And she is absolutely one of the worst people in this whole entire situation, in my opinion. Kellen and Marcin Kova, both of whom have changed their name since the scandal broke, are assumed to be among the next targets of New York prosecutors, who have been assured by dozens of Epstein survivors that he certainly didn't act alone in his sex crimes. US Attorney General William Barr has warned his alleged accomplices they should not rest easy. And I think this is a tell in the article here, right? They are definitely the next targets of the prosecution. In my opinion. The Core Four better not be sleeping comfortably, because it's coming. The more articles you see, the more you hear people talking about these girls, the quicker prosecutors are going to round them up and bring them in. I mean, I don't have any inside information here about what I'm about to say, but in my opinion, there is no way that all of these girls do not have sealed indictments with that grand jury right now. In my opinion, the grand jury jury is going to return a bunch of indictments, and we will see all the members of the Core Four, at the very least, least get indicted for their role in Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise. Marcinkova long ago established herself as one of Epstein's most devoted female followers. They're very close. An Epstein insider told a local newspaper when Marcinkova bombarded him with visits in his Florida prison 12 years ago, she went mostly on weekends. I guess you can call her his squeeze. Prison officials said the visits were monitored and there was no alone time.

[Podcast Co-host]

Yeah, okay.

[Bobby Capucci]

They do such a good job of monitoring prisoners, right? And Jeffrey Epstein, there's no way that he could have had any alone time with Marcinkova. Please give me a break. Marcinkova was certainly close to Epstein. According to a witness who was there when the newly uncovered undated photos were taken. They show Marcinkova hiking with Epstein and sitting beside him as. As draped in a dressing gown. He conducts business at his estate on Little St. James in the US Virgin Islands. Conducts business, huh? Yeah, you mean money laundering? Hiding some dough somewhere? Washing some money for one of his boys? One of his gangster ass bankster homies? The insider said Nadia and Jeffrey seemed to really love each other. It was as if they had a romantic relationship. They were affectionate to each other, often holding hands. Yeah, well, I don't doubt it. Jeffrey Epstein had a hold over all of these people. For whatever reason, he was like their guru. He was their guru and they believed in everything he was about. Not merely because she towered over all the others, including the undersized Epstein. Marcinkova always stood out as the most fascinating and disturbing of the financier pedophile's alleged female accomplices. Except perhaps Maxwell herself. And I don't know about the most interesting of the accomplices. Right, but the most heartbreaking story, the most heart wrenching story sold at 14 years old, I can't even imagine what that would be like. But again, that doesn't give you the leeway to go about and abuse people in turn. I'm sorry, but that does not give you cover to do that. For if the claims are true about how she came into his perverted orbit, they bear out allegations that Epstein was involved in an international sex trafficking ring which brought young girls from poor countries to the US under the guise of recruiting them as models. And now again, speculation on my part. But what role did Jean Luc Brunel play in. In bringing Nadia Marcinkova to America? We know about the other girls he sent over to Jeffrey Epstein. The Russians, the French girls. Why would we think that Jean Luc Brunel was not involved in the bringing of Marcinkova to Jeffrey Epstein? I think that it's something worth exploring. Marcinkova, who has changed your name to Marcinko, has steadfastly refused to comment on Epstein or the claims against him.

[Podcast Co-host]

See, and that's where the problem lies for me.

[Bobby Capucci]

That's where I lose all compassion I have for her or empathy I have

[Podcast Co-host]

for her situation that led her here and say to myself, well, she's made her choice. She's decided who she's going to defend

[Bobby Capucci]

till the very end. So she has to be treated like the other core four. However, she insists she was a victim of Epstein. And her lawyers yesterday told the Mail Nadia wishes to express her compassion and support for her fellow survivors, who also fell prey to Jeffrey Epstein's predatory abusive behavior. Yeah, I don't think that that statement there is going to sit well with a Lot of the survivors. Now, obviously I don't, I don't speak for anybody but myself. Like I always say, you know, me and my beard, we come as a package deal and it's just us, nobody else. But I highly doubt that the survivors are going to take kindly to Marcin Kova trying to put herself in their realm as a survivor. Considering Marcinkova was involved in some of their abuse. Any claim by her to have been a complete innocent is contradicted by many, not least U.S. prosecutors. They named her, Kellen and two other young female Epstein associates as potential co conspirators who were granted immunity from prosecution for past crimes under a controversial 2007 deal that saw Epstein serve just a year in prison.

[Podcast Co-host]

And you see, folks, here's what I

[Bobby Capucci]

talk about when I say here on

[Podcast Co-host]

this podcast, we stick to the people

[Bobby Capucci]

who have been named in these court documents for the most part. Now, don't get me wrong, we talk about some of the enablers as well, but people make a lot of big leaps in this case and I think it's, it's, it doesn't do the case or the survivors any good when people are out in la la land here. All of this stuff we're talking about is documented by the survivors or witnesses or people who were involved. And I think that that's what we should stick to when we're covering this case if we want to see it pursued correctly. Because I'll tell you what, there is a lot of disinformation out there right now and there are a lot of people coming out of the woodwork who all of a sudden seemed to be defending people like Dershowitz. How did the girl born in the former Czechoslovakia end up as a key figure in the Epstein scandal? Although her father has reportedly rejected claims that he and his wife ever sold her to Epstein, records show she came to the US in 2000 when she would have been 14 or 15. Now, I don't know about you folks and I don't have children, right? So maybe I'm not the best person to speak on this, but there is zero chance I'd be sending my 14 or 15 year old girl from Slovakia to America without my supervision for any reason. It is claimed that she reached New York through a model agency, MC2, that Epstein had helped set up in New York and Miami.

[Podcast Co-host]

Well, there you go.

[Bobby Capucci]

That just goes to right there. That's the Jean Luc Brunel connection. Right, but I want to go deeper. I want to go deeper. Jean Luc Brunel obviously facilitated this transaction and if she was 14 or 15 and she was sold to Jeffrey Epstein at that age by Jean Luc Brunel, facilitated by her parents, well, Jean Luc Brunel, that's just another tie that ties him here in America criminally to Jeffrey Epstein. So this dude needs to be black bagged. I would like to see some sort of. Group, be it American authorities, be it Interpol, whoever it may be, snatch this dude off the street, Jean Luc Brunel, and bring him to face justice like the Israelis did in with the people in Munich. Except obviously not kill them. The agency's bookkeeper insisted Marcinkova never actually did any modeling, but was one of various girls, some as young as 13, who lived in flats controlled by Epstein close to his home in Manhattan's upper East side. Virginia Roberts, Prince Andrew's accuser, claimed in 2014 court papers the arrangement was a cover for sex trafficking as most of the girls came from poor countries and were lured to the US by false promises of making good money as models. And this is well documented at this point by several sources, all of those girls that were in that building on East 66th street have talked about it as well. They come over and they wouldn't have jobs as models. They'd be farmed out as escorts.

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[Bobby Capucci]

And the fact that Jeffrey Epstein's brother also had part of that building or is the alleged owner of that building, he's another one that needs to be questioned in all of this.

[Podcast Co-host]

If you own a building or you

[Bobby Capucci]

own a bunch of units in a building and they're being used to house human trafficking victims, yeah, you probably have a few questions that need to be answered. Marcin Kova became a full time member of the Epstein household, although her official function wasn't clear. What the. What she certainly did do, however, was fly with Epstein a lot. Now, even if Marcinkova wasn't accused of abusing Jeffrey Epstein's survivors, even if Marcin Kova wasn't accused of being involved, her being on the plane a lot would mean that she at least saw something, right? So you would think as a decent human being that you would come forward with what you have saw, what Walt you seen. But she has not done that. So again, it makes me wonder. The multimillionaire kept a fleet of planes, the flagship being the notorious Lolita Express, a luxuriously customized Boeing 727. One Palm beach girl told police she was 16 when she made the first of hundreds of trips to Epstein's mansion, breaking down in tears as she described how she often had sex with Marcinkova. Epstein would allegedly watch and choreograph her activities. In the past decade or so, Marcinkova has disappeared from public view. And again, all of these stories of these little girls who were forced to have sex with Marcinkova for Jeffrey Epstein's pleasure make me literally ill. After reading about this kind of shit, it just sickens me, like Bleachbath city. Since the 2008 case, she has obtained a pilot's license and she now boasts an impressive social media following under the Instagram handle flyglobalgirl. In 2015, it was revealed that Marcinkova and Kellan were running companies from a Manhattan property owned by Epstein's brother Mark. Again, Mark's name brought up. Is he going to be indicted? Is he one of the sealed indictments? His finances are tied to Epstein's. And if we're talking about this from a financial perspective and we're talking about this from a RICO type situation, well, yeah, Mark most certainly must be spoken with. It was at his 66th street address that Marcinkova set up an aviation company, Avaloop. She says she is licensed to fly multi engine aircraft and Gulfstream business jets, as well as being an aerobatic pilot and flight instructor. Well, haven't you had a great life, Marcinkova? Meanwhile, the survivors, on the other hand, have had to claw, scratch, bite and fight to get anyone to listen to them. You could have came out a long time ago, Nadia, and put a stamp on things, but instead you haven't done that

[Podcast Co-host]

lightheartedly.

[Bobby Capucci]

Her website claims she switched from modeling to flying because she was ready for longer runways. Marcinkova may soon be coming down to earth with a bump if she becomes the next Epstein associate to face her day in court.

[Podcast Co-host]

I'll tell you what, she is definitely, she's definitely going to have to face

[Bobby Capucci]

her day in court. The whole core four, all of them, there's no chance any of them are skating out on this. They're all going to have to speak to investigators. Perhaps they're all indicted already and we don't know. But what I can tell you is this. Nadia Marcinkova is running out of time to come forward and do the right thing in this case. If she does not help the authorities, if she does not come forward and rat out the other members of the Core four, then she is in line to receive the same penalties as the rest of them. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter at B O B B ycapucci all of the links that go with this episode can be found in the DES description box.

[Podcast Co-host]

All right, what's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to talk a little bit more about Nadia Marcinkova and we're going to talk about how she ended up in Jeffrey Epstein's clutches. Now, unlike the other members of his Core Four, Nadia was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere when she was just a child and she was forced to live with Epstein as, in his own words, his Yugoslavian sex slave. So when we talk about all of the victims and survivors of Jeffrey Epstein, I have to tell you, the more you look into Nadia Marcinkova's story, the more you look into her past and the way that she came into even being part of this story. I mean, it's almost unimaginable, imaginable. A young girl sold to a guy like Jeffrey Epstein and then lives with him for all of these years. Has all of this stuff normalized and told that this is the way that people live in America or the upper crust or whatever it is. And then not only that, but to use her in your plans and your plots to molest other girls, it just goes to a whole different level. So I wanted to touch on this real quick and talk about Nadia Marcinkova and just exactly how she came to be in the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. This article was published by the Daily Mail and it was Originally published on July 28th of 2019. The author is Chris Spargo. Well, that shouldn't shock us. Chris has done great work here, so it doesn't shock me to see him once again doing great work as far as covering this story and trying to nail down the fact from the fiction. Because really, there is just too many snake oil salesmen when it comes to this story. Too many people that have motivations that are ridiculous when the reality is it should all be about finding the truth, figuring out what's what here. And as far as people who have been writing about this, Chris Spargo has been on top of it, obviously now for several years. So let's see what he has to say. The foreign born model who many have identified as an accomplice in procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein, is just as much a victim of the serial pedophile, according to official reports. And when I first started covering this story, I thought that Marcinkova was in on it as well. We didn't have all of the information out to us. Right. We. I didn't know that she was sold as a child to Epstein. And then when she was engaging in some of these different sexual acts that he forced her into, she was underage. So she was certainly a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, just like the rest of these girls. And you want to talk about Stockholm syndrome, You want to talk about someone who had this normalized and was dealing with serious trauma. Well, I present to you Nadia Marcinkova. Incident reports from the Palm Beach Police Department's 2005 investigation that were obtained by DailyMail.com claim that Epstein told at least one underage survivor that Nadia Marcinkova was his Yugoslavian sex slave. And we've heard that from multiple sources. Multiple survivors have talked about that. And I would love to hear Nadia's side of this story. She's never went public, she's never talked about her story. And I'm guessing there's a lot of things happening behind the scenes that prevents her from doing so. But I think that if anyone should get a platform at some point to speak about what went on here, and if it's ever possible, I think that she should be given the time to talk about her experience as well, because I believe that it will add more context to what went on and also help explain how it all occurred. Multiple girls also state that Epstein made them engage in sexual acts with Marcinkova, which eventually turned into threesomes with both himself and the model. And when you're first hearing about this story and you hear about that and you look at Nadia, she's a grown woman now, obviously, if you don't have all of the information. Well, all. Yeah. You think she's definitely part of it, right? 100%. Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia, wrote Detective Joseph Ricari after his interview with one of the survivors. Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave. So that's how Epstein looked at people, oh, well, let's call her my Yugoslavian sex slave. This is just a little girl. And can you imagine being bought, what, what kind of trauma you must be suffering from? Your parents sold you to this guy. And when we talk about what's going on in Afghanistan, we see this quite too often these days. People who can't afford to feed their children, well, they sell them. I know that sounds crazy as hell to most of you out there listening, especially parents, but this is the reality that people face in the developing world. We have it easy, folks. As hard as we have it, as rough as it is, as hard as it is to make ends meet sometimes just think how bad people have it when they're selling their children to pieces of. Like Jeffrey Epstein and Jean Luc Brunel. Marcin Kova would have been underage during most of the alleged incidents described by the survivors to Detective Ricari. She was no older than 16 when she and another age, another underage survivor were allegedly forced to stimulate each other manually, orally and with toys while Epstein watched them. That watched them and pleasured himself in the bed. The same unnamed girl broke down in tears while revealing she had been to Epstein's Palm beach mansion hundreds of times in a two year period and made thousands of dollars. So look, it's rather obvious that Marcin Kova is a, a victim of Epstein and now a survivor. And I think she should probably be cast in that light. Now when Epstein was arrested and she kept going to see him in prison, I'd like to get some answers for that for sure. Because at some point you have to accept the responsibility when you're an adult, right? For, for, for your actions, no matter your childhood, no matter your circumstances, you have to accept some responsibility for your life. So I really would love to hear her side of the story because we have never, ever heard from her. She's never had a interview, she's never been in court to be deposed, none of that stuff. We also know that she is protected under that non prosecution agreement. But if she wasn't underage when this was occurring, she doesn't need to be protected by that non prosecution agreement because she was a child who was coerced into this behavior. So this opens up a whole different legal can of worms, for sure. At first she was paid extra to perform an oral sex act on Marcinkova. Then each week things continued to escalate, states the incident report. She said that she was adamant that no vaginal penetration would occur with Epstein. But then that too did occur while she was underage. She told Detective Ricari on one occasion, the date of which we he could not recall. Epstein allegedly raped that victim after she and Marcinkova had engaged in oral. In an oral sex act to completion. So Epstein was abusing Nadia, obviously, and using her to spur along his own sick and twisted fantasies. And this wasn't happening. You know, every once in a while, with Nadia being basically under his thumb, I'm sure that she was at his beck and call to be abused all the time. She said her head was being held against the bed forcibly. She screamed no. And Epstein stopped, said the report. Soon after this, the survivor said that Epstein purchased a Dodge neon blue in color for her personal use. Of course he did, because that's what he always did, right? Whenever he thought that he might have went too far or that somebody might dime him out. There was always a couple of bucks to be spread around, and that was part of the plan. When you have girls who have nothing, people who are poor, and you have a couple of bucks to spread around, it makes your abuse a little bit easier for you to get away with because they're more hesitant to go and tell on you or bring you to the authorities because they know how powerful you are. So it just enables the cycle of abuse to continue. Another woman also detailed a similar progression of events, starting with massages and leading into sexual encounters with Marcinkova. He used Nadia as nothing more than another instrument for his sexual desires, for his abuse and for his rape. She might as well have been an inanimate object to Epstein and Maxwell, as opposed to a human being. That survivor, who was of age during all the visits to the house as she first met Epstein at 18, told Detective Ricari she also performed oral sex acts on Epstein, but refused his directive to bring around other young girls. She also claimed that she was once directed to perform a manual sex act on herself while watching Epstein have sex with Marcinkova. So he definitely was an exhibitionist. He was a voyeur. He was all of it.

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And well, while that stuff is not a issue unto itself, when you add it all together with the other proclivities that Jeffrey Epstein exhibited, you have yourselves one hell of a sexual predator, folks. Another survivor who told police she was having sexual relations with Marcinkova at 16 said that Epstein took pictures of the two and actually displayed them around his home. So again, where's the hard drive that Richard Kahn took? Where are all of the things he took from that house? Were, were these pictures contained there? And if so, are the authorities ever going to open up a case and get access to this? These incidents make it clear that Marcin Cova was also a victim of Epstein. She would later move into one of, one of more of a procurement role, according to court documents, and eventually cut ties with Epstein. She moved into a procurement role when she was too old for him. That's just the cohort reality of it. When she was too old for him, she outlived her usefulness as far as someone he was attracted to. So her job now was to procure different girls, procure other girls. And we know that everything has been normalized to her up to this point. She think this, she thinks this is regular behavior. Marcin Kova was granted immunity as part of Epstein's 2008 deal, despite the fact that no charges would likely have been filed against her based on the police investigation. She was actually born in the former Czechoslovakia, just four years before the Velvet Revolution, which precipitated the non violent transition of power in the country. At some point, she and her family did move to Yugoslavia. In Yugoslavia in recent years, she has changed her surname to the Americanized version of her name, going by Nadia. So look, I would love beyond anything to have a talk with Nadia Marcinkova, a few hours, sit down with her, hear her story and set the record straight once and for all. But the legal hurdles that are in the way of someone being able to do that, I'm sure are many. And I'm sure that she doesn't want to, you know, shake the hornet's nest if you will. But one thing to that I can see clearly anyway, and for me anyway, is that this lady is not a abuser. She is somebody who was victimized by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, someone who was sold as a child and someone whose story one day certainly should be told. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P u c c [e-mail]. you can also find me on Twitter at bo b b y underscore cap ucci. The links that we discussed can be found in the description box. All right, everybody, I'll be back later on. I hope that everybody's having a great day. What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to talk a little bit more about Nadia Marcinkova and we're going to talk about how she ended up in Jeffrey Epstein's clutches. Now, unlike the other members of his Core four, Nadia was brought into Jeffrey Epstein's atmosphere when she was just a child and she was forced to live with Epstein as, in his own words, his Yugoslavian sex slave. So when we talk about all of the victims and survivors of Jeffrey Epstein, I have to tell you, the more you look into Nadia Marcinkova's story, the more you look into her past and the way that she came into even being part of this story. I mean, it's almost unimagina imaginable. A young girl sold to a guy like Jeffrey Epstein and then lives with him for all of these years, has all of this stuff normalized and told that this is the way that people live in America or the upper crust or whatever it is. And then not only that, but to use her in your plans and your plots to molest other girls, it just goes to a whole different level. So I wanted to touch on this real quick and talk about Nadia Marcinkova and just exactly how she came to be in the clutches of Jeffrey Epstein. This article was published by the Daily Mail and it was Originally published on July 28th of 2019. The author is Chris Spargo. Well, that shouldn't shock us. Chris has done great work here, so it doesn't shock me to see him once again doing great work as far as covering this story and trying to nail down the fact from the fiction. Because really, there is just too many snake oil salesmen when it comes to this story. Too many people that have motivations that are ridiculous, when the reality is it should all be about finding the truth, figuring out what's what here. And as far as people who have been writing about this, Chris Spargo has been on top of it obviously now for several years. So let's see what he has to say. The foreign born model who many have identified as an accomplice in procuring underage girls for Jeffrey Epstein, is just as much a victim of the serial pedophile, according to official reports. And when I first started Covering this story, I thought that Marcinkova was in on it as well. We didn't have all of the information out to us. Right. We. I didn't know that she was sold as a child to Epstein, and then when she was engaging in some of these different sexual acts that he forced her into, she was underage. So she was certainly a victim of Jeffrey Epstein, just like the rest of these girls. And you want to talk about Stockholm syndrome? You want to talk about someone who had this normalized and was dealing with serious trauma? Well, I present to you Nadia Marcinkova. Incident reports from the Palm Beach Police Department's 2005 investigation that were obtained by DailyMail.com claim that Epstein told at least one underage survivor that Nadia Marcinkova was his Yugoslavian sex slave. And we've heard that from multiple sources. Multiple survivors have talked about that. And I would love to hear Nadia's side of this story. She's never went public. She's never talked about her story. And I'm guessing there's a lot of things happening behind the scenes that prevents her from doing so. But I think that if anyone should get a platform at some point to speak about what went on here, and if it's ever possible, I think that she should be given the time to talk about her experience as well, because I believe that it will add more context to what went on and also help explain how it all occurred. Multiple girls also state that Epstein made them engage in sexual acts with Marcinkova, which eventually turned into threesomes with both himself and the model. And when you're first hearing about this story and you hear about that and you look at Nadia, she's a grown woman now, obviously, if you don't have all of the information. Well, all. Yeah. You think she's definitely part of it, right? 100%. Epstein had purchased her from her family in Yugoslavia, wrote Detective Joseph Ricari after his interview with one of the survivors. Epstein bragged he brought her into the United States to be his Yugoslavian sex slave. So that's how Epstein looked at people. Oh, well, let's call her my Yugoslavian sex slave. This is just a little girl. And can you imagine being bought what. What kind of trauma you must be suffering from? Your parents sold you to this guy. And when we talk about what's going on in Afghanistan, we see this quite too often these days. People who can't afford to feed their children, well, they sell them. I know that sounds crazy as hell to most of you out there listening, especially parents, but this is the reality that people face in the developing world. We have it easy, folks, as hard as we have it. As rough as it is, as hard as it is to make ends meet, sometimes just think how bad people have it when they're selling their children to pieces of Like Jeffrey Epstein and Jean Luc Brunel, Marcin Kova would have been underage during most of the alleged incidents described by the survivors. 2 Detective Ricari she was no older than 16 when she and another age, another underage survivor were allegedly forced to stimulate each other manually, orally and with toys while Epstein watched them. That watched them and pleasured himself in the bed. The same unnamed girl broke down in tears while revealing she had been to Epstein's Palm beach mansion hundreds of times in a two year period and and made thousands of dollars. So look, it's rather obvious that Marcin Kova is a victim of Epstein and now a survivor. And I think she should probably be cast in that light now when Epstein was arrested and she kept going to see him in prison, I'd like to get some answers for that for sure. Because at some point you have to accept the responsibility when you're an adult, right for your actions, no matter your childhood, no matter your circumstances.

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You have to accept some responsibility for your life. So I really would love to hear her side of the story because we have never ever heard from her. She's never had a interview, she's never been in court to be deposed, none of that stuff. We also know that she is protected by under that non prosecution agreement. But if she wasn't underage when this was occurring, she doesn't need to be protected by that non prosecution agreement because she was a child who was coerced into this behavior. So this opens up a whole different legal can of worms for sure. At first she was paid extra to perform an oral sex act on Marcinkova. Then each week things continued to escalate, states the incident report. She said that she was adamant that no vaginal penetration would occur with Epstein. But then that too did occur while she was underage. She told Detective Ricari on one occasion, the date of which we he could not recall, Epstein allegedly raped that victim after she and Marcin Kova had engaged in oral. In an oral sex act to completion. So Epstein was abusing Nadia, obviously, and using her to spur along his own sick and twisted fantasies. Lucky, she said. Her head was being held against the bed forcibly. She screamed no. And Epstein stopped, said the report. Soon after this, the survivor said that Epstein purchased a Dodge neon blue in color for her personal use. Of course he did, because that's what he always did, right? Whenever he thought that he might have went too far or that somebody might dime him out. There was always a couple of bucks to be spread around. And that was part of the plan. When you have girls who have nothing, people who are poor, and you have a couple of bucks to spread around, it makes your abuse a little bit easier for you to get away with because they're more hesitant to go and tell on you or bring you to the authorities because they know how powerful you are. So it just enables the cycle of abuse to continue. Another woman also detailed a similar progression of events, starting with massages and leading into sexual encounters with Marcinkova. He used Nadia as nothing more than another instrument for his sexual desires, for his abuse, and for his rape. She might as well have been an inanimate object to Epstein and Maxwell, as opposed to a human being. That survivor, who was of age during all the visits to the house, as she first met Epstein at 18, told Detective Ricari she also performed oral sex acts on Epstein, but refused his directive to bring around other young girls. She also claimed that she was once directed to perform a manual sex act on herself while watching Epstein have sex with Marcinkova. So he definitely was an exhibitionist. He was a voyeur. He was all of it. And, well, while that stuff is not a issue unto itself, when you add it all together with the other proclivities that Jeffrey Epstein exhibited, you have yourselves one hell of a sexual predator, folks. Another survivor who told police she was having sexual relations with Marcinkova at 16, said that Epstein took pictures of the two and actually displayed them around his home. So, again, where's the hard drive that Richard Khan took? Where are all of the things he took from that house? Were. Were these pictures contained there? And if so, are the authorities ever going to open up a case and get access to this? These incidents make it clear that Marcinkova was also a victim of Epstein she would later move into one of, one of more of a procurement role, according to court documents, and eventually cut ties with Epstein. She moved into a procurement role when she was too old for him. That's just the cold heart reality of it. When she was too old for him, she outlived her usefulness as far as someone he was attracted to. So her job now was to procure different girls, procure other girls. And we know that everything has been normalized to her up to this point. She think this, she thinks this is regular behavior. Marcin Cova was granted immunity as part of Epstein's 2008 deal, despite the fact that no charges would likely have been filed against her based on the police investigation. She was actually born in the former Czechoslovakia, just four years before the Velvet Revolution, which precipitated the non violent transition of power in the country. At some point, she and her family did move to Yugoslavia. In Yugoslavia in recent years, she has changed her surname to the Americanized version of her name, going by Nadia. So look, I would love beyond anything to have a talk with Nadia Marcinkova a few hours, sit down with her, hear her story and set the record straight once and for all. But the legal hurdles that are in the way of someone being able to do that, I'm sure are many. And I'm sure that she doesn't want to, you know, shake the hornet's nest, if you will. But one thing to that I can see clearly anyway, and for me anyway, is that this lady is not a abuser. She is somebody who was victimized by Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. Someone who was sold as a child and someone whose story one day certainly should be told. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] you can also find me on Twitter at B O B B Y underscore C A P U C C I. The links that we discussed can be found in the description box. All right everybody, I'll be back later on. I hope that everybody's having a great day.

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