Mega Edition: Peter Mandelson's Epstein Denials Vs. The Record (6/4/26)

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Mega Edition: Peter Mandelson's Epstein Denials Vs. The Record (6/4/26)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: June 4, 2026

Overview

This "mega edition" episode centers on Peter Mandelson, a high-profile UK politician, his repeated denials regarding his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein, and the mounting evidence showing numerous documented encounters and associations after Epstein’s 2008 conviction as a sex offender. The episode follows Mandelson’s trajectory from denial to recent arrest and explores the larger context of elite impunity and the continuing fallout from Epstein’s global network.

Host Bobby Capucci draws on a mix of investigative journalism, court documents, and news reports to track Mandelson’s contacts with Epstein, lambaste the lack of accountability among elites, and comment on the reluctance of both the legacy media and political institutions to pursue justice until forced by public outcry.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

Mandelson’s Ties With Epstein: The Paper Trail

[01:00 – 05:30]

• Mandelson, former UK Labour Cabinet Minister and EU Commissioner for Trade, is documented in Epstein’s private calendars as having four scheduled meetings with Epstein post-conviction (2010–2013).

• Evidence from diaries suggests Mandelson stayed overnight at Epstein’s New York mansion in 2012.

  • Bobby Capucci: “All of these grown ass men having sleepovers. Is that not weird to you fellas? … Why is a grown man staying the night at another grown man's house? Can somebody please explain that behavior to me?” [03:28]

• Prince Andrew is highlighted as another high-ranking UK figure who appeared comfortable at Epstein’s residence, inviting close friends over for tea.

• The disclosed calendars, released via court documents from the US Virgin Islands investigation, shed light on the depth and persistence of Epstein’s high-society network even after his sex crimes became public knowledge.

The Culture of Impunity & Media Complicity

[05:30 – 11:00]

• Reflections on the inept and often complicit roles of law enforcement and mainstream media in the US and UK, underscoring repeated failures to investigate well-connected figures.

  • Capucci: “Scotland Yard decided not to pursue this case the way they should have? Who are they trying to protect? No different than over here … Same thing’s happening over in the UK because this degeneracy … doesn’t start and stop here in America.”
  • The loss and mishandling of crucial evidence—including probation records, videotapes, and chain of custody—is framed as systematic, not accidental.

• Capucci asserts that only public, sworn testimony will yield real answers:

  • “Until they start putting people under oath with some skin in the game, then we're never gonna get any real answers from any of these people who were around Jeffrey Epstein. Why would they answer?”

Mandelson’s Denials vs. The Documentary Record

[11:22 – 19:00]

• Referencing The Guardian and court filings: internal JP Morgan bank reports show Mandelson’s ongoing contact with Epstein following his conviction.

  • Documented events:
    • Epstein emails his banker in 2009: “Peter will be staying at 71st over the weekend. Do you want to organize either you or you and Jamie quietly?”
    • In March 2010, Mandelson, still in government, emails Epstein on regulatory issues.
  • Mandelson’s formal response: “Lord Mandelson very much regrets ever having been introduced to Epstein. … He never had any kind of professional or business relationship with Epstein in any form. … He has no recollection or record of staying in Epstein's house.”

• Capucci notes the cyclical nature of these denials:

  • “They all play out of the same playbook. … I don't recall, I don't remember … so if they get outed later on, they can refer back to their previous statement and say, look, I said I didn't recall. I didn't deny it.” [19:09]

The Web of High-Powered Connections

[19:00 – 24:00]

• Mandelson introduced to Epstein by Ghislaine Maxwell.
• The report raises new questions about Prince Andrew: despite his statements about ending his friendship with Epstein in 2010, evidence shows continued contact.
• The failures of media outlets (e.g., ABC spiking the Virginia Roberts interview) and the role of political influence in stymieing investigations are highlighted as symptomatic of a broader pattern of elite protectionism.

Bombshell Updates: Recent Arrests and What They Mean

[24:14 – 32:00]

• Breaking news: Both Peter Mandelson and the former Prince Andrew have recently been arrested and released in the UK, suspected of improperly passing confidential government information to Epstein—a potential act of treason.

  • Mandelson’s arrest “follows the same pattern that we saw with Prince Andrew, who was also recently arrested and released after about 12 hours.”

• Capucci speculates about the performative nature of such arrests and whether actual accountability will follow, highlighting the double standards applied to elites.

  • “Is the UK going to change course and actually treat Mandelson like they would anybody else?”

• The release of 3 million pages of Epstein-related documents by the US Justice Department is described as the catalyst for these high-profile developments.

The Bigger Scandal: State Secrets, Treason, and Political Fallout

[32:07 – 37:00]

• Allegations focus on Mandelson providing Epstein with market-sensitive and confidential government information during and after the 2008 financial crisis.
  • “Messages suggest that Mandelson passed on sensitive and potentially market moving government information to Epstein in 2009, when Mandelson was a senior minister.”
• Labour Party leader Keir Starmer is drawn into controversy for appointing Mandelson as Ambassador, with the fallout threatening his own political survival.
• The episode ends with a look at Mandelson’s long and embroiled career—his mastery of political intrigue (the “Prince of Darkness” nickname), repeated comebacks after scandals, and final downfall tied to the Epstein affair.

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Notable Quotes and Memorable Moments

• “All of these grown ass men having sleepovers. Is that not weird to you fellas?”
  — Bobby Capucci, [03:28]

• “They really, truly think that they can just control the narrative and the stuff that we know, the stuff that has been outed about them, that they can just put it all back in that little box, but they can't. We all know what we know now, and it's time for these people to finally be held to account.”
  — Bobby Capucci, [07:45]

• “Until they start putting people under oath with some skin in the game, then we're never gonna get any real answers from any of these people who were around Jeffrey Epstein.”
  — Bobby Capucci, [09:40]

• “They all play out of the same playbook… I said I didn't recall. I didn't deny it. And that's what every single one of these people has done when they've been called out on their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein.”
  — Bobby Capucci, [19:09]

• “He's a skilled, critics say, ruthless political operator whose mastery of political intrigue earned him the name Prince of Darkness. Well, not that great, huh? Was sending emails to Jeffrey Epstein dishing off state secrets and not even protecting those communications.”
  — Bobby Capucci, [35:40]

• “The fact that they're even talking about treason is a big deal. Do I think they're gonna go that route? No, but they should. Anybody who's passing classified information to anybody else is putting the whole nation in jeopardy.”
  — Bobby Capucci, [32:09]

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Timestamps for Key Segments

• [01:00] — Introduction to Mandelson’s relationship with Epstein and the first wave of diary revelations
• [03:28] — Capucci’s incredulous commentary on adults having sleepovers at Epstein’s home
• [07:45] — Breakdown of elite impunity and denial
• [09:40] — The need for sworn testimony to get answers
• [11:22] — Mandelson’s denials and ongoing contact per JP Morgan emails
• [19:00] — Discussion of Mandelson’s introduction to Epstein via Ghislaine Maxwell
• [24:14] — Newsflash: Mandelson and Prince Andrew arrested amid document dumps
• [32:09] — The treason implications of passing secrets to Epstein
• [35:40] — Reflection on Mandelson’s career and “Prince of Darkness” reputation

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Conclusion

This episode argues powerfully that Peter Mandelson’s repeated denials are consistently undermined by a steadily-growing paper trail, courtroom evidence, and his own emails. Bobby Capucci attacks the entrenched culture of elite impunity, excoriates the media’s historic reluctance to challenge the powerful, and welcomes the overdue arrests as a momentous, if possibly performative, change.

The podcast paints a detailed, damning portrait of Epstein’s ability to corrupt and compromise global powerbrokers, implicating not only Mandelson and Prince Andrew but a far wider network of politicians, bankers, and media figures. The host’s tone is direct, unsparing, and often incredulous—mirroring the public’s growing anger at years of stonewalling and obfuscation.

For those wanting a comprehensive, sharp, and passionate rundown of the Mandelson-Epstein revelations and their broader implications, this “Mega Edition” provides an essential account.

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This article was authored by Daniel Bates. Peter Mandelson was scheduled to have four meetings with Jeffrey Epstein after the tycoon. You mean pedophile served time in prison for having sex with underage girls. The pedophile's private calendars reveal that the ex Labor Cabinet minister was due to meet the financier pedophile between 2010 and and 2013, even though he was a registered sex offender. The diaries even suggest Lord Mandelson stayed at his 63 million pound New York mansion in 2012. All of these Grown ass men having sleepovers. Is that not weird to you fellas? How many of you out there are having sleepovers at the homies house now that you're in your 30s and your 40s? Whatever. I'm sure not many of you. Unless of course, you're out, you're drunk, something like that. Okay, I get it. Nobody wants to drive drunk. Nobody who has a brain in their head. But besides that, why is a grown man staying the night at another grown man's house? Can somebody please explain that behavior to me? The Mail on Sunday can also reveal that Prince Andrew was so comfortable in Epstein's home, he invited a close friend over for tea. The calendars were revealed as part of hundreds of documents handed over by the Epstein estate during an investigation by the government of the US Virgin Islands, where he had a private island. Well, private for the rest of the world, maybe. Not private for these disgusting assholes who were hanging out with him. That island was legitimately Disney World for pedophiles. They shed light on the network of associates cultivated by Epstein, who. Who hanged himself in 2019 while awaiting trial for sex trafficking. The disgraced billionaire pedophile was jailed for 13 months in June of 2008 for soliciting a minor for prostitution as part of a sweetheart plea deal. After leaving jail, Epstein had to register as a sex offender and was subject to a 12 month house arrest, which expired in July of 2010. We all know that that wasn't a real house arrest. He was out working, allegedly. Really what he was doing was committing more crimes. And the record shows it. While he was out on house arrest and under the management of Palm beach, this dude was still bringing girls to his office. There were still girls coming to the house, and he was under the management at the time of the Palm Beach County Probation Office. And then to find out that they lost all that paperwork documenting Epstein's time on probation is almost too much to stomach. But it fits right in with all the other stuff that we have seen throughout this entire case. Missing videos, chain of custody being ignored, stash of videotapes gone. So where did all of this evidence go? Who's in possession of it? And why has it not been acted on? Despite this, Lord Mandelson, a former EU Commissioner for Trade, appears to have met Epstein several times. Lord Mandelson declined to confirm if the meetings had taken place, but other figures who appear on the documents have said their get togethers did go ahead. At the time, the peer was out of public office, but being tipped to lead the IMF or the World Trade Organization, all of these groups, these bodies that people point to all the time, like the World Trade Organization, the imf, the un, all of these organizations are suffering from a severe amount of corruption. Every time you turn around, there's a new scandal with the UN or the IMF or one of these groups. They talk about how, you know, they're here to help people and they're going to help poor countries or whatever, but. But instead what we hear are reports of people that are part of these UN teams end up raping people, molesting people, and doing way more harm than they do good. So it doesn't shock me for a second that they'd be in bed with Jeffrey Epstein. We already know that. And stories like this coming to the forefront, they just reconfirm what folks like us already knew. And that is all of these people were hanging out with Epstein. All of them were sick degenerates who knew what he was and willingly chose to dance to the tune that he was playing. The first two meetings were listed for Epstein's New York townhouse on March 1 and March 3 of 2010, when he was still under house arrest. The March 1 entry says Lord Mandelson was due at 7:30pm While Benjamin Wegg Prosser, referred to as Peter's friend, was due to arrive at 1pm and when you look at all of the people, as far as people in the uk, politicians and other powerful people that are connected to Epstein, is it any wonder that Scotland Yard decided not to pursue this case the way they should have? Who are they trying to protect? No different than over here when you have certain folks in certain positions protecting people like Epstein. Same thing's happening over in the uk because this degeneracy, what, you think it starts and stops here in America? Of course not. The rich, the powerful, those in charge, this is how they roll. They show us every single day who they are. The question is, when are people going to start paying attention? Mr. Wegg Prosser was Lord Mandelson's assistant and was previously Tony Blair's Director of of Strategic Communications. He now works at Global Council, Lord Mandelson's consulting company, as a Managing director. An entry for May 28, 2012. Peter Mandelson to arrive in the evening from Shelter Island. Will he stay at the house? Shelter island is an island in the Hamptons, the millionaires playground east of New York. The entry for Wednesday, May 30, reads, Peter Mandelson possibly leaves today if meeting organized for Boston, otherwise departs Thursday for D.C. so this guy Peter Mandelson obviously has enough money. He could stay wherever he wants. The Waldorf Astoria, Hilton, whatever you want to do. But no, I'm gonna stay at this convicted pedophile's house, and then I'm gonna get mad when people ask me questions about my relationship with said pedophile, and then I'm gonna get mad. And anytime anyone asks me a question about my relationship with Epstein, I mean, these people are just bizarre. They really, truly think that they can just control the narrative and the stuff that we know, the stuff that has been outed about them, that they can just put it all back in that little box, but they can't. We all know what we know now, and it's time for these people to finally be held to account and at the very least, at the very least answer some questions. And until they start putting people under oath with some skin in the game, then we're never gonna get any real answers from any of these people who are around Jeffrey Epstein. Why would they answer? Why would they open their mouths if they're not compelled to do so? It's only going to make it worse for them, right? And that's why so many people that have been connected to Jeffrey Epstein just keep their head down, ignore the story and act like nothing is happening. And they're able to do that, unfortunately, because the legacy media refuses to challenge these people about their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. And then the legacy media has the audacity to call people conspiracy theorists when they won't even set the record straight. So they set the stage for there to be all of these conspiracy theories and fertile ground for them to grow. And then they cry when it happens. Here's an idea. Tell the truth about what happened here and you won't have to worry about conspiracy theories, because the real truth, the actual truth of what occurred, is so gross and disgusting. You don't need a conspiracy theory to be mad about it. All you have to do is look at the real facts and the people who were with this dude committing these crimes, and it becomes very apparent why the legacy media has had a pretty much hands off approach until Alexander Acosta's name popped up with with the story. The final entry is for April 4, 2014 and is a dinner with Mandelson, former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak, investor Mort Zuckerman and Jess Daley, the former head of JP Morgan who has been accused of abusing Epstein survivors. Previous reports have shown photos of Lord Mandelson on Epstein's island in 2005 and at his birthday in 2006, but the diaries are the first suggestions of meetings after his prison sentence.

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heart rate up fast. Download now and get moving. Mr. Wegg Presser said. I had the misfortune to meet Epstein on one occasion. It was a short meeting of no consequence and thankfully was never repeated. Meanwhile, the Mail on Sunday has learned that Prince Andrew invited family friend Kathleen Keating, 41, daughter of former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating, to Epstein's mansion. We saw the pictures. We already knew that he was photographed peering around the door of the disgraced billionaire's home pedophile on December 6, 2010, as he waved goodbye to her. One source said. Andrew told Emily Maitlis in his Newsnight interview he went to New York to sever his ties with Epstein. So it seems counterintuitive he would feel comfortable enough to invite an old family friend over for tea. You have to wonder, what was he thinking? He wasn't thinking about anything besides the fact that he felt untouchable. I'm the Prince of England and I'm with Mr. Jeffrey Epstein, who's being protected by Lord knows who, so why would he feel anything but comfortable? And now that all of this comes back and boomerangs to hit Joe Exotic of the Windsor family directly in the face, is anyone surprised? I'm not. How long have I been telling you about this? We have been talking about this for years now. And the fact that the legacy media is talking about it like it's just dripping out now is absolutely absurd. But if it gets more people interested in what's going on here and more people demanding accountability, I say better late than never. All right, folks, that's gonna do it for this one. All of the information that goes with the episode can be found in the description box. What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. There are so many scumbags that were caught up with Jeffrey Epstein, that were in political positions around the world, that it will make your head spin. And in today's episode, we're going to talk about one of those dirt bags once again. And that dirt bag is Peter Mandelson, another UK politician who thought palling around with Jeffrey Epstein was was a good idea. And now Mandelson's being exposed for the fact that not only was he palling around with Epstein. He was still in contact with him after Epstein was already a convicted sex offender. Today's article is from the Guardian. Headline Bank Report details Peter Mandelson's apparent contact with Jeffrey Epstein. The author of this article is Rowena Mason. Court documents of shed light on the labor former Business Secretary Peter Mandelson's apparent contact with a disgraced businessman. You mean pedophile Jeffrey Epstein after the pedophile was convicted of procuring an underage girl for prostitution. No big deal to them, right? An underage girl for prostitution. That's just, you know, light work for these disgusting scumbags. So why would they be mad at their buddy Jeffrey Epstein for the same they're doing? The document is a 2019 internal report on Epstein by JP Morgan bank which had a 15 year relationship with the financier and was filed to a New York court this week. It found that Prince Andrew appeared to maintain a particularly close relationship with Prince Andrew, the Duke of York and Lord Peter Mandelson, a senior member of the British government. And you wonder why Prince Andrew, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell weren't even really investigated in London. And you have the answers you need right here. How many well placed people within the elite establishment of London were in the pocket of Epstein or were friendly at the very least with him? A whole lot of people, right? And then you add to that you got guys like Mandelson and Prince Andrew and they can exert a lot of political pressure on people not to investigate them. And we have seen the effects of that. Look what ABC did with the tapes that they had for the Amy Robach show with the interview with Virginia, how they quashed that interview because they wanted to keep access to the royals. So for a long time the last thing any of these news agencies wanted to do was to step on the toes of the Royal family. And then you add in a guy like Mandelson who's very powerful as well, and you see how a guy like Jeffrey Epstein was able to operate with impunity. In 2008, Epstein was given an 18 month sentence after pleading guilty to procuring an underage girl. That is such ridiculousness right on its face. Procuring an underage girl. You mean molesting an underage girl, Right? You mean being a child molester? Because how could a young girl who is underage be a prostitute if they can't consent? And the only reason that they were labeled as a prostitute is because Epstein brought up the money in the first place. What you think these 14 year old girls were out there working the blade. No, he went and recruited them by using other girls to bring them into his scheme. Prostitutes. I got your prostitute right here, you fucking stoonade. He served time at the private wing of the Palm Beach County Stockade in Florida before being released on probation on July 22nd of 2009. And imagine the travesty of, of this idiot saying that he actually had to do jail time when he was just hanging out in this stockade. He didn't do real jail time. What he was in the yard, he was mainlined. He was dealing with all of the pressure that real people deal with when they're incarcerated. Hell no, he wasn't. And when you have dossiers on people like Prince, Andrew and Mandelson, you know that they're going to dance to your beat. And we know that Epstein had dossiers on just about everybody. What was in those dossiers? Well, that's the question. The JP Morgan report reveals that Epstein wrote to his private banker Jess Daly on 17 June in 2009 in relation to Mandelson to say, Peter will be staying at 71st over the weekend. Do you want to organize either you or you and Jamie quietly? Up to you. At the time Lord Mandelson was was business Secretary in the government of Gordon Brown. And talking about Jamie, he's referring to Jamie Dimon, the same guy who says he had no idea who Jeffrey Epstein was. That's interesting, huh? At that time Lord Mandelson was business secretary in the government of Gordon Brown. It also refers to an email from Mandelson when he was still Business Secretary in March of 2010 to Epstein saying can just send me email on issues, read Dodds Volker. The request appears to be related to US regulations in the wake of the financial crisis. You mean the financial crisis that was created by these idiots, all of these financial sector experts who destroyed everybody's retirement and savings and lives. So during this whole period they're in contact with Epstein, trying to find a way to navigate the new regulations. Meanwhile, I was sitting in the employee dining room at the Hard Rock Hotel with some of my co workers who were older and ready to retire, watching their whole lives be ripped out from underneath them because they lost their retirement, they lost their 401k, they lost everything. And what happened? Nothing. Did any of these bankers go to prison? Did anything change? Of course it didn't. They might have changed the hustle, but look, the lick remains the same. The report also refers to two occasions on which Epstein said He was with Petey, which the bank interprets as a reference to Mandelson in November 2010 and January 2011. Mandelson was out of the government by this point. Still scumbag ex political figure palling around with pedophile Epstein. Yeah, you're gonna get called out for that, buddy.

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The Guardian has contacted Mandelson and a lawyer for the Duke of York for comment on the report. A spokesperson for the Labour peer said, Lord Mandelson very much regrets ever having been introduced to Epstein. This connection has been a matter of public record for some time. He never had any kind of professional or business relationship with Epstein in any form. It is understood that Mandelson has no recollection or record of staying in Epstein's house in New York in 2009. They never remember. And you know how I say they all play out of the same playbook? Here it is once again. I don't recall, I don't remember. And they frame it like that on purpose so if they get outed later on, they can refer back to their previous statement and say, look, I said I didn't recall. I didn't deny it. And that's what every single one of these people has done when they've been called out on their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Mandelson appears to have been introduced to Epstein by Ghislaine Maxwell, daughter of the tycoon Robert Maxwell. She is serving 20 years in prison for the assisting of Epstein in sex trafficking of underage girls. The report also raises questions about Prince Andrew's claims to have cut ties with Epstein in December 2010. The royal's friendship with Epstein has been criticized by particularly after he stayed with Epstein during a December 2010 visit to New York, which the Duke of York has said was to tell him that they could no longer be in contact. Yeah, okay, I'm gonna fly across the pond so I can talk to this and tell him we can't be pals anymore. Does anyone believe that honestly out there? Does anyone believe that story, that explanation? Would any of you do that? Hop on a plane, fly across the Atlantic to tell a friend who has been outed as a pedophile that you can't be friends with them anymore? Or would you just stop talking to them altogether and say, go yourself? However, the JP Morgan report states that in February 2011, two months after the Central park meeting, Epstein wrote to Staley, andrew asked for your London schedule. Last year, the Duke of York settled a sexual assault case filed against him by Virginia Roberts for an undisclosed sum. But with no admission of liability, Roberts was introduced to him through Epstein and Maxwell. Look, he might not have admitted what he did, but when you pay out that sum of dough, do you really think that people are going to believe that you just paid it so you can move on? You're not rich. You're over there grifting from your brother, your mom, everybody. So that's a big blow to Prince Andrew and his fortune. If he was innocent, don't you think he would have fought that? In 2019, federal prosecutors charged Epstein with sex trafficking of a minor and conspiracy to commit sex trafficking. Epstein denied the charges and was refused bail. He died months later in custody in an apparent suicide. The JP Morgan report was commissioned to examine the extent of the bank's relations with Epstein, which continued until 2013. And it's funny about that JP Morgan report. Up until this lawsuit with the U. S. Virgin Islands, there was no chance that we were ever going to see that report. You think JP Morgan was going to let us see this internal report that is outing themselves as being scumbags? And zero chance they did that report for this purpose. Specifically, in case they got nailed down the line, they could refer back to the report and tell the court, look, we're our own self watchdog. We initiated this whole entire investigation. See what we did here? Meanwhile, it's a bunch of BS and they're just investigating themselves. But now that it's convenient to them and that they might use it as far as ammunition, well, they can't wait

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to release it, right?

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Mandelson has given informal advice to the current labor leadership. A spokesperson for the party said there are a whole range of people that Kyle Starmer talks to. Obviously he talks to people who were part of the last labor government, including Peter Mandelson. Well, again, this is nothing new to us, folks. We've known about Peter Mandelson for how long now? But again, it shines a spotlight on. On all of these powerful people that were palling around with Epstein that still have not answered for that relationship. And unfortunately, they're never going to be forced to do so. All right, folks, that's going to do

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it for this one.

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All of the information that goes with the episode can be found in the description box.

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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. So Peter Mandelson was arrested yesterday and now he has been released on bail. And that follows the same pattern that we saw with Prince Andrew, who was also recently arrested and released after about 12 hours. Now, the investigation obviously is ongoing and they haven't confirmed one way or the other which way they're leaning, but just from the emails themselves, it's rather obvious that these two dudes passed on confidential information to Jeffrey Epstein. And I know some people act like it's no big deal, but it most certainly is. I mean, how much more evidence is needed that Jeffrey Epstein was collecting information, was using that information for his own ends, for his own benefit and for the benefit of whoever else than what we've seen already? I mean, we have confirmation right here that two high ranking members of the English government, we're passing classified information to somebody that's been called an intelligence asset. Do you think Epstein was just collecting that information for fun or do you think that he had a purpose for it, that he had a use for it? Because I don't think there's any doubt that Jeffrey Epstein was collecting this information for a specific purpose. What that purpose is, I have no idea. Sell it to somebody, use it to benefit from for himself, whatever it might be. He wasn't just collecting this information to collect it though, that's for damn sure. And I think that this really throws cold water over the narrative that Jeffrey Epstein is just some kind of pervert because it was obviously a lot more. In the previous episode we talked about the DEA investigation that included Jeffrey Epstein. That's never been explained. We've talked about how many different money laundering situations and it doesn't just stop at money laundering. If there's a financial crime that could be committed, these people were committing them. You have to remember people like Epstein, they wrote the book on how to commit crimes in the financial sector. His mentors, the people that showed him the ropes, they knew exactly what buttons to push. And Epstein himself, getting all that experience at Bear Stearns and running his own financial scheme over at Tower Financial. Epstein had everything that these people were looking for. And then you add the proclivities to that. His sick, disgusting deviant desires and it was a match made in heaven. So if anybody thinks that Jeffrey Epstein was just some pervert who might have hooked up with a 17 year old girl one time, congratulations. You're the exact kind of moron they're counting on. Today's article was published by AP and headline, Former UK Ambassador Mandelson released on bail after arrest An Epstein Probe. This article was authored by Pan Pilus and Jill Lawless police in Britain said Peter Mandelson, the former UK Ambassador to the United States has been released on bail after he was arrested and a misconduct probe stemming from his ties to the late Jeffrey Epstein. It came days after a friendship with Epstein landed the former Prince Andrew in police custody. And the writing was on the wall, right? Once Prince Andrew was arrested, I knew that Mandelson was next and frankly I thought that Mandelson would have been arrested first. But once Andrew was arrested, you knew that Mandelson was going to get hemmed up. A Metropolitan Police spokesperson said in a statement issued just after 2am Tuesday. A 72 year old man arrested on suspicion of misconduct in public office has been released on bail pending further investigation. So this isn't going away and I think that Mandelson is facing a lot of exposure here. Now, of course we always have to keep in mind, is this all just for show? Are they acting like they're just absolutely mortified by Mandelson's actions and then they're gonna go light on him because, you know, he's one of us. That's how it's always been. Is the UK going to change course and actually treat Mandelson like they would anybody else? Imagine if Mandelson was, I don't know, a lieutenant in the navy and he passed on sensitive information to, to anybody. How would that be dealt with? We all know that it would be dealt with swiftly and brutally. So the same should be true for Peter Mandelson and people like him when they find themselves in the crosshairs of an investigation. The man was not named in keeping with British police practice, but the suspect in the case previously was identified as the former diplomat who's 72. Mandelson was filmed being led from his London home by a car by plainclothes officers on Monday afternoon. And I know people wanted like a dramatic arrest, but that was never going to happen. The fact that they even arrested Mandelson and Andrew is gigantically huge. Now of course I'm not naive. It could all be performative. Certainly wouldn't be the first time and it certainly won't be the last. But I have a feeling that the people of the UK have had enough and I think that Mandelson and Prince Andrew, or the former Prince Andrew are a good start. But of course the million dollar question is, does the British establishment have the backbone to see this through? And I guess we'll have to wait to see what goes down, but certainly a good start. Both Mandelson and Andrew Mountbatten Windsor, the former Prince Andrew, are suspected of improperly passing UK government information to the disgraced U. S financier. And the high profile British arrests are some of the most dramatic fallout from the trove of more than 3 million pages of Epstein related documents released last month by the u. S. Justice department. Well, no doubt about that. I mean, here in America, we're sitting on our hands. No big deal. Come on, this is all just overblown. You're just a fable list. This is the moral panic. Jeffrey Epstein, not really that bad of a guy. What? He likes 17 year old girls? So what? That's the kind of bullshit we're dealing with here in America. Meanwhile, over in the UK you got a prince of the blood getting hemmed up and one of the most powerful politicians and in the whole ass country like you dudes in America can't find one financial crime to arrest anybody on. Well, for them to do that, they'd have to upset their donors. And the Epstein administration. I mean, the Trump administration is never going to do that. Police are investigating Mandelson over claims that he passed sensitive government information to Epstein a decade and a half ago. He does not face allegations of sexual misconduct. Yeah, I've never heard anything about Mandelson diddling anybody, so. Certainly not in that realm. But when it comes to other things, Enabling Epstein and helping enrich Epstein, there's no doubt that Mandelson is a co conspirator. His arrest came four days after mountbatten Windsor was arrested in a separate case on suspicion of a similar offense related to his friendship with epstein. He was released after 11 hours in custody while. While the police investigation continues. Yeah, I didn't think they were gonna hold him. I mean, they'll keep him there, interrogate him, and then release him after he sees a judge or makes bail or whatever. But there was no way that they were gonna hold him indefinitely. There's no capital crimes committed here.

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But I will say this.

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The fact that they're even talking about treason is a big deal. Do I think they're gonna go that route? No, but they should. Anybody who's passing classified information to anybody else is putting the whole nation in jeopardy. And I know if I was a British citizen, I wouldn't be happy about any of it. And you can say that is taking it too far or it's overblown, whatever. But I don't agree. Once you start talking about state secrets and passing those along to other people, especially people like Epstein, we're talking about big trouble and we're literally talking about treason. Because you don't know what Epstein's going to do with that information. Is he going to sell it to whoever? Probably. Either that or he's going to enrich himself. And either way, it's bad news. Mandelson served in senior government roles under previous labor governments and was UK Ambassador to Washington until Prime Minister Keira Starmer fired him. And in September, after emails were published showing that he maintained a friendship with Epstein after the financier pedophiles 2008 conviction for sex offenses involving a minor. And this is the big problem, because it says involving a minor, it was a lot more than that. And I think that Barry Krisher and the state prosecutors that are responsible for this should have to answer for it because there's no way in hell that with what Epstein was up to, he should have only received the sentence that he received. My man was looking at a life sentence on those federal charges. To go from a life sentence to 13 months only for a guy like Epstein. Certainly not for me. Certainly not for you. The files released in January contain more explosive revelations about Mandelson's ties to Epstein, whom he once called my best pal. Messages suggest that Mandelson passed on sensitive and potentially market moving government information to Epstein in 2009, when Mandelson was a senior minister in the British government. That includes an internal government report discussing ways the UK could raise money after the 2008 global financial crisis, including by selling off government assets. Mandelson also appears to have told Epstein he would lobby other members of the government to reduce attacks on banker bonuses. And remember, Jeffrey Epstein benefited from the financial collapse by being made whole by the taxpayer. So if you're not mad about that, I don't think there's any help for you. How can you not be mad that you were being robbed by Jeffrey Epstein? Please explain that. British police launched a criminal probe earlier this month and searched Mandelson's two houses in London and Western England. The decision to appoint Mandelson nearly cost Dahmer his job earlier this month as questions swirled around his judgment about someone who has flirted with controversy during a decades long political career. Though he acknowledged he made a mistake and he apologized to victims of Epstein, Starmer's position remains precarious. His future may rest on the release of files connected to Mandelson's appointment. The government has pledged to begin releasing those documents in early March. Though the timeline may be complicated by his arrest, Mandelson has been a major, if contentious figure in the center left

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Labour Party for decades.

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He's a skilled, critics say, ruthless political operator whose mastery of political intrigue earned him the name Prince of Darkness. Well, not that great, huh? Was sending emails to Jeffrey Epstein dishing off state secrets and not Even protecting those communications. Not so savvy after all, is he. The grandson of former Labor Cabinet Minister Herbert Morrison, he was an architect of the party's return to power in 97 as centrist, modernizing new labor under Prime Minister Tony Blair. Mandelson served in senior government posts under Blair between 97 and 2001 and under Prime Minister Gordon Brown from 2008 to 2010. In between, he was the European Union's trade commissioner. Brown has been particularly angered by the revelations and has been helping police with their inquiries. Mandelson twice had to resign from government during the Blair administration over allegations of financial or ethical impropriety. Acknowledging mistakes, but denying any wrongdoing. Oh, just a big mistake. I had no idea. Well, if you're that dumb, you shouldn't be in government. Pretty simple. And how many times you guys gonna throw this dude outta government and then

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let him back in? What?

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He's a change man. Oh, I've turned over a new leaf. I only take money from pedophiles now, not arms traffickers. Oh, wait, Epstein's both. He later returned to government and was back on the political front line when Starmer named him Ambassador to Washington at the start of US President Donald Trump's second term. Mandelson's trade expertise and comfort around the ultra rich were considered major assets. He helped secure a trade deal in May that spared Britain some of the tariffs Trump has imposed on countries around the world. Oh, well, in that case, let's just forget everything else he was up to. No big deal. Got us a couple of trade deals, so no big deal. The status of the deal is now up in the air after Trump announced a new set of global tariffs in the wake of a U.S. supreme Court decision quashing his previous import tax order. Earlier this month, Mandelson resigned from the House of Lords, Parliament's upper chamber, to which he was appointed for life in 2008. But he still has the title Lord Mandelson that went with it. Alright, so there's where we're at with Lord Mandelson and his arrest. And obviously when we have some more information one way or the other, we'll get it added to the catalog. As far as this one. Well, that's gonna do it. All the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.