Mega Edition: Sarah Kellen And The Line Between Participant And Abused (6/28/26)

Summary

Podcast Summary: The Epstein Chronicles

Episode: Mega Edition: Sarah Kellen And The Line Between Participant And Abused
Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: June 28, 2026

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Main Theme

This episode centers on Sarah Kellen (Kellen Vickers/Kensington), a prominent member of Jeffrey Epstein’s inner circle commonly referred to as one of the "Core Four." Bobby Capucci dives deep into Kellen's pivotal role within Epstein’s operation, arguing the urgent need for her to be investigated, deposed, and potentially charged. The episode explores themes of complicity, privilege, the failures of law enforcement, and the blurred lines between participant and victim in the Epstein case.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

The Failure of Authorities to Pursue Key Accomplices

• Bobby opens with frustration: “It is time for Sarah Kellen Vickers to be brought in by the authorities. Point blank, period.” (01:30)
• Accusations regarding Kellen’s direct involvement, including managing the “little black book,” scheduling underage girls for Epstein, and serving as an “enforcer” or “lieutenant” alongside Ghislaine Maxwell.
• Critiques the inaction of SDNY (Southern District of New York) and the FBI, expressing disbelief that Kellen and other key insider assistants continue to live freely, enjoying luxury.
• Observes the contrast between arrested figures (like Maxwell) and those shielded by past plea agreements (11:13, 32:38).

The "Core Four" and Enablers

• Kellen grouped with Leslie Groff, Nadia Marcinkova, and Adriana Ross—the “Core Four”—all vital to Epstein's operation and beneficiaries of his largesse. (14:12)
• "They are an extension of my brain." (Epstein, quoted by Bobby, 18:41)
• Discussion of their insulated positions, large salaries, perks, and continuing privileges, such as expensive homes and travel.
• “If this was the Sinaloa cartel or the Gambino family, what you think these people would still be running the streets? They would all been arrested a long time ago, their families shattered and their money taken by the government seized.” (18:41)

The Myth of Victimhood: Kellen’s Post-Epstein Life

• Raises skepticism about Kellen’s claim to victimhood: “It’s bupkis when anyone like Helen tries to say they were a victim of Epstein after his arrest. You’re still associating with him...you were probably still being enriched by him. So you’re part of the criminal conspiracy.” (03:18)
• Traces Kellen’s reinvention: changing name and appearance, relocating, marrying NASCAR driver Brian Vickers, launching an interior design business, and jet-setting internationally. (21:36, 22:55)
• “She was seen cozied up to Epstein in February 2012... Now, I don’t know how anyone can say that Sarah Kellen Vickers should not be brought in and at the very least, put under oath and an interrogation job should ensue.” (02:13)

Justice System Failures: Immunity Deals, Non-Prosecution Agreements

• Kellen received federal immunity as part of Epstein's 2008 non-prosecution agreement brokered by Alexander Acosta (11:13).
• Critiques the federal government’s role in shielding co-conspirators: “The non prosecution agreement deal is a bunch of bs. Absolute straight garbage.” (13:09)
• Notes contradiction that while minor charges were brought against Epstein, major enablers got off without charges—or even scrutiny.
• "If you cannot convict people in this case, then you might as well pack it up and start chasing ambulances." (13:39)
• Wonders whether the government is waiting until after Maxwell’s trial to indict others (02:37).

Kellen’s Direct Actions and Survivor Testimonies

• Details Kellen’s alleged duties, including:
  • Arranging/scheduling massages with underage girls
  • Laying out oils, prepping rooms
  • Potentially participating in abuse
  • Intimidating girls and pressuring them not to go to police (06:01)
• Cites survivor testimonies as critical evidence, demanding more federal action and transparency.
• “Several alleged survivors told police they were taken to Epstein's massage room at his Palm Beach mansion by a woman named Sarah after she laid out the massage oils..." (06:13)

Connections with Powerful Figures

• Kellen’s presence on Epstein’s jet with former President Bill Clinton “on at least 11 flights between 2002 and 2003” (08:26).
• Raises the issue of enablers among the elite and the suspicious lack of critical media coverage:
  • "Where is all of that vim and vigor? What happened to it all?" (09:44)
• Notes ties to Prince Andrew (17:00), skepticism about his denials, and Kellen’s Fifth Amendment responses during deposition.

Critique of Privilege and Lack of Accountability

• Ongoing lifestyle of privilege—luxury homes, business ventures, and continued wealth (22:55–25:28).
• "Talk about privilege. You know, when you want to talk about privilege, this is who you're talking about. These kinds of people, these are the people that really experience privilege.” (22:55)

Survivor Perspectives and Public Outrage

• Empathy for survivors forced to watch their abusers live without consequences:
  • “Meanwhile, you're left to pick up the pieces and try and figure out how you're going to have some semblance of a normal life.” (32:38)
• Survivor lawyers (David Boies, Brad Edwards) quoted as calling for Kellen to be held accountable (43:06).

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Notable Quotes & Memorable Moments

• “Anything less than a RICO case here, anything less than the core four... all going to prison... is an abject failure, in my opinion, for the prosecution.” (06:42, Bobby Capucci)
• “She was in charge of the black book. She was in charge of getting out the massage oils, getting things situated, bringing the girls in, and in some cases... partaking in the abuse herself.” (06:01, Bobby Capucci)
• On privilege: “She is the owner of SLK Designs, an interior design company... Oh, I guess it’s just another coincidence that in that same year she was seen walking with Jeffrey Epstein on the way to the townhouse. Did Epstein have anything to do with incorporating that company?” (22:55)
• On the legal system: “The non prosecution agreement deal is a bunch of bs. Absolute straight garbage. A hot pile of steaming, dumped, illegally garbage.” (13:09)
• On double standards: “If this was the Sinaloa cartel or the Gambino family what you think, these people would still be running the streets?” (18:41)
• On Fifth Amendment in deposition: “‘Would you agree with me that Prince Andrew... and Jeffrey Epstein used to share underage girls for sexual relations?’ She replied, on the instruction of my lawyer, I must invoke my Fifth Amendment privilege.” (16:45)
• On watching abusers remain free: “Imagine being one of the survivors and seeing this shit every day. People like this, living their lives with not a care in the world. Carefree, millions of dollars, gigantic penthouses and just living it up.” (32:38)
• Comparing survivor justice: “Survivors lawyers David Boies told the Mail it would be a serious miscarriage of justice for the prosecution to stop there, adding that co conspirators should be held to account.” (43:06)

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Important Timestamps

• 01:30: Bobby Capucci calls for Sarah Kellen’s immediate investigation and arrest.
• 02:13-06:13: Lays out Kellen’s known roles and survivor statements.
• 08:26-09:44: Kellen’s travel with Clinton and unaddressed elite connections.
• 11:13-13:39: Deep dive into immunity and non-prosecution agreements.
• 14:12-18:41: Breakdown of the “Core Four” and Kellen’s rewards as Epstein’s assistant.
• 21:36-25:28: Discussion of Sarah Kellen’s post-Epstein life, including businesses and marriage.
• 32:38-43:06: Focus on survivor outrage and the deep failures of US justice.

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Tone

Bobby Capucci’s tone is impassioned, direct, and outraged. He pulls no punches, is deeply skeptical of official narratives, and maintains a focus on survivor justice and accountability without sugarcoating the bleakness of the justice system’s failures.

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Conclusion

The episode delivers a scathing indictment of authorities, the justice system, and elite privilege surrounding the Epstein case—with Sarah Kellen as the central, symbolic figure of unaddressed complicity. By contrasting her continued luxury with survivors’ ongoing trauma, Bobby demands action and accountability, warning that unless the remaining enablers are prosecuted, the entire investigation stands as a failure of justice.

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For more resources and to contact the host:

• Email: bobbycapucciprotonmail.com
• Twitter: @BobbyCapucci

All referenced articles and discussion links can be found in the episode’s description.

Transcript

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[Bobby Capucci]

What's up, everybody, and welcome to the program. We're just gonna jump right in today. Okay, look, you know, I've been screaming about rico. I've been screaming about the expanded investigation. And the person we're going to talk about tonight is somebody that needs to be picked up like yesterday. All of these allegations out there, all of these fingers being pointed in her direction and still nada. Nothing. Zip, zilch. No arrests, nothing. It is time for Sarah Kellen Vickers to be brought in by the authorities. Point blank, period. Look, I'm not convicting anybody without a trial. You know, you guys know how I

[Interjecting Commentator]

feel about all of that stuff.

[Bobby Capucci]

I'm not that kind of person. That's not how I roll. But there is more than enough probable cause here to bring her in and. And have her investigated all of the core four. So in case everybody has forgotten about Sarah Kellen Vickers, I thought I'd get those memories jogged a little bit and add this article to the catalog. This article is from the Daily Mail. Exclusive. Jeffrey Epstein's fixer was still socializing with the convicted pedophile in 2012, even after avoiding prosecution and changing her name, dyeing her hair brown, moving to Hawaii, and dating a NASCAR racer. Now, this article was Originally published on July 12th of 2019, and to tell you the truth, we've probably done this article before, but we're diving in again because at this point in time, I don't know how anyone can say that Sarakel and Vickers should not be brought in and at the very least, put under oath and an interrogation job should ensue. Jeffrey Epstein's female fixer, who allegedly procured underage girls for him to sexually abuse and was the keeper of his little black book, was still socializing with the convicted pedophile in 2012. Exclusive pictures obtained by DailyMail.com can reveal now that alone right there should be enough to bring her in, right? The little black book. We know she was one of Maxwell's lieutenants. So if this investigation was as serious as we hoped it is, and as we hope it's going to be, then Sarah Kellen Vickers assuredly would be facing the hammer right now. So, again, I don't know what's going on behind the scenes. Is there an unsealed indictment we don't know about? Maybe, I would hope. But, you know, time is running short here, folks. It's getting close to the trial, and you would think they'd want to charge all of these people before then. Right now, maybe I'm completely off. I'm missing the mark. Maybe I don't know anything about anything. And they're gonna wait till after Ghislaine Maxwell's trial to start and then they'll charge the rest of these people? That doesn't seem likely. So what is up? What is going on? When are we going to see Sarah Kellen Vickers? At the very least, brought in and talked to by a seasoned investigator. Sarah Kellen was seen cozied up to Epstein in February 2012 as they walked along Madison Avenue in Manhattan, deep in conversation with before heading to Epstein's $77 million townhouse. And this is why it's bupkis. When anyone like Helen tries to say they were a victim of Epstein after his arrest. You're still associating with him. You're still cavorting with him. And frankly, you were probably still being enriched by him. So you're part of the criminal conspiracy. You enriched yourself on ill gotten gains. That money needs to be seized. I sound like a broken record, right? And if I can see this and the forest through the trees, what the hell is the prosecution up to? Kellen was accused of making massage appointments for Epstein and pressuring young girls into not talking to police who said they were intimidated and frightened by her, according to the Daily Mail. So she was acting as an enforcer almost for Epstein and Maxwell as well. She was, according to the Daily. I mean, the Miami Herald.

[Interjecting Commentator]

That was her role, right?

[Bobby Capucci]

She was in charge of the black book. She was in charge of getting out the massage oils, getting things situated, bringing the girls in, and in some cases, according to some of the girls, partaking

[Interjecting Commentator]

in the abuse herself.

[Bobby Capucci]

So while it's definitely a good thing that Maxwell's in prison or in jail, looking at prison time, the rest of these people most assuredly can't be let off the hook. The investigation cannot be over. According to them, it's still an ongoing investigation. So let's see some teeth. Several alleged survivors told police they were taken to Epstein's massage room at his Palm beach mansion by a woman named Sarah after she laid out the massage oils. Sure looks like she was complicit. Sure looks like she was involved. Sure looks like she should be investigated. What in the ever living, ever living is going on now? I hope that I'm just bleeding right now, right? I hope that they really are going hard in the paint behind the scenes. And I've been confident that we'd see a RICO investigation here. But folks, I'm starting to wonder and you know where I'm at with that. Anything less than a RICO case here, anything less than the core four indict Khan, Maxwell and Brunel all going to prison. And this is an abject failure, in my opinion, for the prosecution. So I'm very interested to see what's going on behind the scenes. I'm very interested to see what other indictments come out of this. Because if there is any justice left in the world, even just a little thing, finger tip worth, then these people will face the full brunt of the federal government for their alleged participation in Epstein's criminal enterprise. Kellen did not respond to requests for comment when contacted by the Daily Beast. Of course not. Why? Why would she? She's not going to say shit at this point. According to flight logs, Kellen also traveled on Epstein's private jet with former President Slick Bill Willie Clinton on at least 11 flights between 2002 and 2003. Well, wait a minute.

[Interjecting Commentator]

Hold on.

[Bobby Capucci]

Wait a minute here, folks. According to Mr. Bill Clinton, friend of Kamala Harris and I guess women everywhere, Bill Clinton, the champion of women, according to certain people, I guess, was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane 11 times with Sarah Kellen Vickers. Now, folks, we'd have to be real naive to think that there was not traffic survivors on those planes. Now, I'm not sitting here saying Bill Clinton was involved in abusing anybody. Nobody has said that. There is not one reliable witness that has come out and said that while with Jeffrey Epstein, Bill Clinton has been abusing people. That's not the point. The point of the matter is this guy was on the plane enabling Epstein, helping refurbish his image. And at the same time

[Interjecting Commentator]

all of

[Bobby Capucci]

that's occurring, Epstein's abusing all of these girls. You don't think that Bill Clinton has some answering to do? You don't think the legacy media should be all over him? At the very least, let's see the same zeal that they showed about Acosta, right? Where is all of that vim and vigor? What happened to it all?

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[Bobby Capucci]

Julie Brown Kellen was given federal immunity under Epstein's non prosecution agreement in 2007 made with former federal prosecutor and Trump administration Secretary of labor and General jackoff Alexander Acosta, who resigned over the deal on Friday. Now remember, I'm not going to be dog walked into putting all the blame on Acosta. We know that's not the case. We know this goes all the way up to the top. It was signed off on by Mukase. Okay, so I get it. Acosta should have been fired. This idiot should have never been anywhere near a presidential administration. So I have zero problem with him being fired, zero problem with him being held accountable. But I want to see the same zeal shown for people like Clinton. This isn't a one way street. This isn't, you know, firing rounds just one way downrange. All of these people who were involved need to be held to task. Yes, Nancy Pelosi's daughter, even your faves. Epstein pleaded guilty to two prostitution charges in state court in Miami and served 13 months in Palm Beach County Jail, during which much of the time he was allowed out on work release. He was released in 2009. Now, we all know that that non prosecution agreement deal is a bunch of bs. I mean, absolute straight garbage. A hot pile of steaming, dumped, illegally garbage. Now, the 11th Circuit, they have it well within their power to make things right. Will they? I don't know. I have no idea. I'm not in that room. I don't really know anything about those judges. But I will tell you this, if they come back and they uphold that npa, I have to tell you folks, the little bit of faith I have in this system will be shattered and gone forever. If you cannot convict people in this case, then you might as well pack it up and start chasing ambulances. Epstein pleaded guilty to two prostitution charges in state court in Miami and served 13 months in Palm Beach County Jail, during which much of the time he was allowed out on work release. He was released in 2009. Yeah. What do you mean most of the time? The whole time guy had to report to jail to go to sleep. That's it. Still out abusing people. While he was on parole, according to Denise George.

[Interjecting Commentator]

While he was out on work release,

[Bobby Capucci]

abusing people, according to Denise George and others. And no accountability. No one in the state's held accountable. No one in the federal government's held accountable.

[Interjecting Commentator]

What about these people who are being

[Bobby Capucci]

abused by him when he should have been a guest of the state? Do they have any recourse? Can they sue the federal government? I mean, does it even matter if you do? We all know these federal judges, for the most part, are a bunch of schmoes. Kellen. Along with fellow executive assistants Leslie Groff, Nadia Marcinkova, and Adriana Ross, the Core Four, were named in Epstein's 2008 Sweetheart deal as potential co conspirators. She remained fiercely loyal to Epstein after the deal and along with Marcinkova, visited him dozens of times in jail. There's no explanation for that. Okay? You cannot explain that to me logically and have me get on board and think it's okay, because it's not. What are you doing visiting Epstein, especially if you're going to set yourself up as a victim? You know, when Epstein was arrested the first time, that was the chance for all of these supposed people who worked for him who. Who want to set themselves up as victimized now to come forward and slam down the hammer on this dude. None of them did. Instead, they kept cavorting. Instead, they kept going to hang out with him while he was in prison. So guess what? Forgive me if I have no compassion for you now when the karma train is on the tracks. In 2010, Kellan was interviewed under oath as part of civil proceedings along with Epstein's other assistants about their dealings with the billionaire financier pedophile, and also asked whether Epstein's close friend Prince Andrew was involved with underage girls. So the only time she's ever been under oath was for this deposition. Now, did she perjure herself in this deposition? Are the prosecutors going through it with a fine tooth comb like they should be? I would hope so. Kellan was asked by a lawyer, would you agree with me that Prince Andrew, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, and Jeffrey Epstein used to share underage girls for sexual relations? She replied, on the instruction of my lawyer, I must invoke my Fifth Amendment privilege. Well, honestly, I don't blame her. I would have said the same exact thing. The last thing you want to do is incriminate yourself to the federal authorities. Folks, that perjury shit and lying to the authorities is no joke. And especially if you've done something more because that's probable cause, that opens the door that. That becomes big problems. Prince Andrew, the Joe exotic of the Windsor family, denied any sexual contact with underage girls. Oh, of course he did. And you know, it's funny. He hasn't done too many interviews lately. But his pops passed away, and again, I don't wish that on nobody. Look, as I've gotten older, I understand the stakes, right? Death is eternal, death is final. And whatever I don't, I'm not going to take joy in somebody's death. That's just not how I roll. But he's given interviews now, right? And it looks like the FBI called him out on Twitter. They were like, oh, Andrew's giving interviews now? Because we know the FBI wants to

[Interjecting Commentator]

talk to old boy.

[Bobby Capucci]

He doesn't want to do it. He does not want to sit down and speak to the FBI. Those of you out there who might be familiar with the author Joe Abercrombie, know exactly who I'm talking about when I say that I wish Sandan Glockta was the one in charge of this interrogation. Kellan and her fellow assistants were generously compensated for working for Epstein, where they made themselves available 247 and were indispensable to his personal and business success. According to a 2005 article in the New York Times. They were so complicit folks. They were such a huge part of what Epstein had going on that it's not even funny. $250,000 as an assistant? Come on, man. That's basically what you're making as a. The lowest level paid athlete in, like, hockey. 250 grand a year is a lot of money. To do what?

[Interjecting Commentator]

Get coffee?

[Bobby Capucci]

Yeah, right. That money was to buy their silence. That money was to buy their loyalty. That's exactly what it did. They are an extension of my brain. Epstein told the Times. Their intuition is something that I don't have. Yeah, no shit. You're not as smart as everyone says you are, Jeff. You never were. That's why I call you the Coney island hot dog vendor. Your intellectual acumen is not impressing me, okay? You are a run of the mill pervert, A degenerate with sick proclivities. And I'd have told you that straight to your face if you would have ever had the unfortunate. Unfortunate luck of meeting me. Epstein paid his assistants more than $200,000 a year. Roughly 250,000. And the position came with perks, access to top hairstylist Frederick Faki, private jet trips and meals from New York's top restaurants. Now, we've talked about Freddy Faki before and we read an article about him. And you know what? I think I'm going to read that same article again because it was so long ago. Sometimes we got to look at it with a fresh perspective. And these girls got all the benefits of this criminal organization, folks. They were living on high. Flip the script. If this was the Sinaloa cartel or the Gambino family, what you think these people would still be running the streets? They would all been arrested a long time ago, their families shattered and their money taken by the government seized. But somehow Jeffrey Epstein and his Core four and his good friends continue to be able to fly close to the sun, even with wax wings. After avoiding prosecution, Kellen, 40, took steps to conceal her sordid past. Sounds like Ghislaine Maxwell, doesn't it? Very eerily similar, isn't it? She went from a blonde to a brunette and re emerged as Sarah Kensington. Kensington, huh? Has a bit of a British ring to it, no? She also goes by the aliases Sarah Linnell Vickers and Sarah Bonk, according to public records. I don't know about you folks, but I don't have any aliases, okay? Growing up, my friends called me Little Rob. Me and my dad have the same name, you know, Big Rob, Little Rob. Besides that or Asshole. I really haven't had any other, you know, nom du jour's in my name. My. My day. Alright? Who needs an alias except a criminal. She spent several years in Hawaii and began dating NASCAR driver Brian Vickers in 2012, where she began popping up in pit lane at his races. I mean, and imagine none of the sports reporters were on it. None of the sports reporters dug in.

[Interjecting Commentator]

None the of.

[Bobby Capucci]

Bitch ass ESPN had nothing to say. All of these virtue signalers that today. Hey everybody.

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[Bobby Capucci]

Well, they're all over you no matter what. If you get out of line, forget it. If you step to the side of their way of thought, you're the enemy. Now meanwhile, Sarah Vickers hanging out at Pit row during NASCAR events. And nobody's going ham. The couple became engaged in the summer of 2013 and married in September 2013 in Wyoming, according to local reports. I don't know how this dude sleeps at night married to this woman. It's like Borgerson. Him and Borgerson are probably golf buddies. Obviously, I have no evidence of that, but it would make sense.

[Interjecting Commentator]

Right

[Bobby Capucci]

after her marriage to Vickers, 35, she reinvented herself as an interior designer and jet sets around the world, following her husband's career. In recent years, she has been pictured in Singapore, New York, Miami, Tokyo and Capri. Must be nice and I'm glad you've enjoyed yourself, Sarah Kellen Vickers, because the train is on its way, the train of justice, and you're squarely in its path. There is no way on this earth that this lady should be running around living this life, doing the sorts of things she's doing after the misery she was involved in causing. There has to be redress. There has to be consequences. The couple divide their time between their homes in New York, Miami and North Carolina. Must be nice, their homes. All right, talk about privilege. You know, when you want to talk about privilege, this is who you're talking about. These kinds of people, these are the people that really experience privilege. She is the owner of SLK Designs, an interior design company. Public records with the New York division of Corporations show that SLK Designs LLC was established in May 2012. Oh, I guess it's just another coincidence that in that same year she was seen walking with Jeffrey Epstein on the way to the townhouse. Did Epstein have anything to do with incorporating that company? How much money did he give her for it, if any? Why am I the one asking these questions and not the federal effing government? In 2015, the Daily Mail reported that Kellen and Marcinkova, who renamed herself Nadia Marchenko and is now a pilot with a company called Avaloop, were operating from 2 million dollar apartments in a Manhattan building that was majority owned by Epstein's brother, Mark. Well, Mark, you as well, my friend, should be brought into this RICO investigation. Now, I don't. I don't know what involvement Mark had, if he had any, but I will tell you this. There is financial ties that bind. And if you want to really get these people, if you really are interested in pursuing justice and bringing these people to heal, you would be going after their vast finances. Mark Epstein told the Guardian at the time he owned the majority of the units in the Manhattan building and had never heard of those two women's Companies? Nah.

[Interjecting Commentator]

Nothing. Not at all.

[Bobby Capucci]

We call that plausible deniability, folks. Do you really believe he had no idea that they had apartments in this building? Two million dollar apartments. He has no idea who's in the units. On SLK's design's Facebook page, it states, Sarah Kensington makes a living doing what she loves in life. Interior design. She is the owner of SLK Designs LLC and has studies at several schools including the University of Hawaii and New York School of Interior Design. Oh, who cares? Give me a break. She's going to be studying at the School of Hard Knocks eventually. I hope. She's going to be studying in in a jail cell soon, I hope. Sarah loves fashion, photography, travel, delicious cuisine, and anything design related. Housewares, interior design, art, architecture. In her free time, Sarah enjoys working with clay and painting. Well, the good thing for Sarah is if she does get convicted, she's gonna have plenty of free time to get engaged in arts and crafts. At the present time, Sarah Kensington is working with a number of clients on various projects, including renovating several corporate apartments in New York, the Caribbean and Paris.

[Interjecting Commentator]

Oh, yeah?

[Bobby Capucci]

I'd like to know who she's working for. Maybe those people should be made aware of who she is. For the houses that Sarah manages, she does a number of duties, which can involve organizing staff schedules, looking for and interviewing housekeepers and chefs, purchase and source items that are needed for the household. Flatware, dishes, furniture, art, etc. Design, floral arrangements and interior design. Sure sounds like she learned at the heel of Ghislaine Maxwell, huh? See all the parallels here, folks? Look, a lot of you out there are way smarter than I'll ever be. So you don't need me to put these pieces together for you. But it sure is odd how all of these things fit together, isn't it? But it's just a coincidence. And you're a conspiracy theorist. Epstein has properties in New York, Paris, and the US Virgin Islands. Well, not. No more. Not New York. In an online profile about her, it states, when Sarah gets time away from her busy career, she enjoys traveling the world. Yeah, must be nice. And I hope that she has built a bunch of memories, because when she's sitting in that prison cell, hopefully that's all she's gonna have to fall back on. She has visited a number of different places, including Bali, China, Japan, Russia, Cuba, Australia, Belize, Brazil, Colombia, France, Italy, England, Middle East, Israel, Africa, and all over the United States. How many of those places did she visit with Epstein? And how many of those places were they engaged in criminal behavior? Again, why Am I the one that has to ask these questions? Reading is another favorite pastime that Sarah enjoys. She is currently reading Fierce Conversations by Susan Scott. Her favorite book is by Ayn Rand, Atlas Shrugged, and the Fountainhead. Sarah is a lover of classic novels such as Dracula, the Hobbit and Sherlock Holmes.

[Interjecting Commentator]

Yeah, well I got news for you.

[Bobby Capucci]

Pretty sure, pretty sure that Mr. Tolkien would not be a fan of you, Sarah. In fact, when he created the Orcs, I think he had you in mind.

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[Bobby Capucci]

Epstein, 66, was charged earlier this week with two counts of underage sex trafficking. He was arrested by the FBI when his private jet landed from Paris in New Jersey on Saturday. None of the women are named in the new indictment against Epstein, and prosecutors say they don't anticipate filing charges against anyone soon. Imagine that. See how this investigation changed over time? When Epstein was arrested, they were gonna brush this under the rug again. The prosecution was gonna get rid of this case again. And the only reason that they haven't done the same with Maxwell is because all of you glorious bastards out there have not allowed it. So pat yourselves on the back, folks. You're doing fantastic work and you're making a difference. There is a reference, however, to the employees and assistants he used to allegedly traffic three underage girls in New York and Florida. Of course there's a reference, because while they didn't have the case that they were going to bring charges right away, that doesn't mean that charges weren't going to come eventually, right?

[Interjecting Commentator]

Hopefully.

[Bobby Capucci]

But again, we can only go by what the government has said and what they've put on the books. Acosta sealed the 2008 agreement, the Miami Herald reported, meaning neither the survivors nor the public were aware of Epstein's crimes, nor who else was involved in helping him abuse underage girls.

[Interjecting Commentator]

See, this is the biggest problem with

[Bobby Capucci]

Acosta, the ceiling of this. And again, that was Mukazi as well, though. So let's spread that blame around to everybody that deserves some, because folks, there are plenty of scumbags who need to answer questions. The legality of that agreement is now in question. Epstein survivors were not informed of it at the time, which is a violation of the law, meaning the future of Epstein's female cohorts is uncertain. So that's an understatement. And we know now, looking back, obviously we have hindsight as our guide. There is a lot going on still in the 11th. We have no idea when they're gonna render a ruling about that non prosecution agreement. Hopefully it's very soon. But folks, is there any doubt that Sarah Kellen vickers and the Core 4 need to be brought in, put under oath and really investigated? If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] youm can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Capucci. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. Everyone.

[Interjecting Commentator]

And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One person who was related to Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell that most certainly deserves a harder look and to be brought in and at the very least deposed under oath is Sarah Kellen Vickers. While Ghislaine Maxwell was awaiting her fate at the hands of Judge Nathan, Sarah Kellen Vickers and her husband were just strolling around having a good old time. These people have been able to live a life of relative normalcy when they should not have been able to do so. Anybody who was caught up in the web of Epstein, especially anybody who acted as a lieutenant or as a groomer or somebody who was an important cog in the machine, every single person that falls into that category needs to be arrested. But yet we have the SDNY still sitting on their hands and someone like Sarah Kellen Vickers out there living her best life. Now imagine being one of the survivors and seeing this shit every day. People like this, living their lives with not a care in the world. Carefree, millions of dollars, gigantic penthouses and just living it up. Meanwhile, you're left to pick up the pieces and try and figure out how you're going to have some semblance of a normal life. So the question is, when is the FBI and the SDNY gonna do something about this? Today we have an article from the Daily Mail and the headline, while Ghislaine Maxwell awaits her fate, Sarah Kellen, her ex right hand woman and third key figure in Jeffrey Epstein drama, strolls carefree in Manhattan. This article was authored by Steven Wright and Daniel Bates and this article came out on June 24, walking through Manhattan to see her personal trainer Sarah Kellen appears to be enjoying a carefree life, certainly compared with her former bosses Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell. And again, it's absurd that this lady is able to just go about her life like nothing ever happened, like she was never involved with any of this disgusting, gross behavior. And the fact that the SDNY and the FBI has let her get away with it, it's just mind boggling to me. And then they wonder why people have questions about who else is involved. Was Epstein working with intelligence? A lot go, a lot goes into it because normal people, when they're accused of this sort of thing, they don't have it as easy as Sarah Kellen Vickers does. That's for damn sure. One cheated justice by killing himself allegedly while awaiting trial on sex child, on child sex charges. The other will next week learn how long she will spend behind bars for recruiting girls for the pedophile tycoon to abuse and taking part in the abuse herself. And and as we all know, Ghislaine Maxwell received 20 years. But as Maxwell, 60 faces being jailed for up to 55 years in New York on Tuesday, the contrast in her fortunes with those of her ex right hand woman, Ms. Kellen, 43, could not be starker. She is now married to NASCAR driver turned investor Brian Vickers and has rebranded herself as an interior designer under the name Sarah Kensington. Now imagine that this lady who is accused of all of this stuff by so many different survivors is able to go out there and live this kind of life where she's basically a jet setter, she's married to a NASCAR driver, she's an interior decorator, interior designer and they're living the fat life. Meanwhile, these survivors, well, the story didn't end as happily, did it? She and her husband live in a $4.3 million penthouse in the trendy SoHo neighborhood and also owns a 5.1 million pound condominium in Miami. Last week they were seen strolling a short distance to their personal trainer studio where lessons are thought to cost £120 and an hour. That is some insane rates for personal training. But that industry, folks in general, not to digress too much, but that industry in general, there is a lot of money to be made there. If you're a health professional, somebody who's a personal trainer, somebody who nutritionist, something like that, there is a lot of money to be made in that industry. And I had no idea how much money was in that industry until my girlfriend was part of cost an absurd amount of Money to go to these boot camps to have somebody to give you nutritional advice. This stuff is expensive, so I could see how it's costing a buck 20 here an hour for some rich and famous people. The couple wore gym clothes and were on their phones most of the way, looking relaxed on the warm summer's day while, well, why wouldn't they look relaxed and feel confident that nothing's going to happen to them after all this time? Sure seems to me like Sarah Kellen Vickers is going to find a way to avoid all of this, whereas she's somebody that should be being looked at with a microscope and a fine tooth comb. Because I have no doubts, and again, just my opinion here, but I have no doubts that she knows a lot more. And how she's been able to avoid all of this in New York is just beyond me. Now down in Florida, remember she was part of the non prosecution agreement, but you mean to tell me she didn't commit any crimes anywhere else? Kind of hard for me to believe and once again not to come back around and beat this dead horse a little more. But if this was rico, this would be a whole different conversation. Sarah Kellen Vickers would have already been caught up in this as well as the rest of these scoundrels. It is a far cry from Ms. Kellen's time working as a personal assistant to Maxwell and Epstein. She has been dubbed Epstein's lieutenant for allegedly sourcing and booking underage girls for massages. This week, prosecutors described her in court papers as the third knowing participant in, in the sex trafficking operation after Maxwell and Epstein. So with that being said in court, how in the hell is she not under more scrutiny? How is she not being brought in to be deposed or indicted or. And then people wonder why folks are so frustrated about what's going on here and about how the, the police, the FBI and the Department of Justice in general has completely and utterly the bed throughout this whole entire thing. They had the goods. They had a mountain of evidence as high as Mount Everest and they chose not to prosecute for all of those years, instead hoping that it would just go away. Oh, let's put our heads in the sand. Let's hope it all goes away. And if it wasn't for the survivors coming forward and if it wasn't for Julie Brown writing her story, these people would have all gotten away with it. So the federal government out here trying to spike the ball, acting like they've done something to help, they haven't. They've been an impediment. The whole Entire way throughout this whole, entire case. But she has never faced justice over the scandal. After becoming one of four women granted immunity from prosecution over Epstein's abuse in 2008, his lawyers persuaded the authorities to sign an agreement giving potential co conspirators protection from future charges. And can you imagine if you're a prosecutor and someone shows up with that kind of vague language in an agreement? Oh, yeah. Well, we're gonna have unnamed people here, and, you know, you're not gonna be able to charge them in the future either. Which prosecutor Hop skips and jumps and falls all over themselves to sign that deal? Oh, that's right. The state prosecutors in Florida, Mr. Acosta, and his handler, Mr. Mukazi, that's. Who does that. Those are the scumbags that sign off on deals like this. Meanwhile, these people, every single one of them that's protected under this order should lose that protection, and they should all be in jeopardy of being prosecuted because they all played a crucial role in what went on here. According to court documents and according to the survivors themselves, the only one that shouldn't be indicted, in my opinion, is Nadia Marenova. The rest of them, they should all be indicted, and they should all be convicted. Many serious charges against Epstein and co conspirators were wiped out in return for the billionaire pleading guilty to lesser offenses of soliciting an underage girl for prostitution. After Epstein's prison suicide in 2019, allegedly attention turned to Maxwell, paving the way for her belated prosecution last year. And while Maxwell faces the possibility of dying in prison for trafficking underage Girls For Epstein, Ms. Kellen is free to go on with her life, much to the disdain of survivors of the abuse. Look, I've. I've talked to survivors directly about this issue. They're not happy with what's going on here. They don't feel like they've been treated fairly or equitably, and they feel like someone like Sarah Kellen Vickers should be behind bars now. Imagine being one of these girls, one of these women who was abused not only by Epstein, not only by Maxwell, but by Vickers as well. And this lady still out here running around, living her best life. Survivors lawyers David Boies told the Mail it would be a serious miscarriage of justice for the prosecution to stop there, adding that co conspirators should be held to account. Another U.S. victim's attorney, Brad Edwards, said Ms. Kellen should share evidence to help those still seeking justice or should face prosecution next. Absolutely. That's how they do it all the time. If they were talking about going after a drug organization, that's what they would do. If they were going after the Mafia, that's what they would do. So why do these people get special treatment? Why are they being treated with kid gloves? And why were they given this absurd deal? In their memo before Maxwell's sentencing, prosecutors said the former socialite co conspirator General All Around Scuzz Bag and Bipedal Serpent had trained her to take over scheduling massage appointments. Ms. Kellen's lawyer did not respond to requests for comment. They never will. And it's look, it's been established at this point by the survivors themselves that Sarah Kellen Vickers played a crucial role here. And not only that, but according to some of the survivors, she also played a role in the abuse. So the question is, what is the SDNY doing and why hasn't the FBI arrested any of these other co conspirators? All right, folks, that's going to do it for this episode. 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