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going to wither under the pressure.

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I don't know how many times I have to say this, but these people are not built for this. Oh sure, they're built to play the game, right. They're built to do the crime. They're built to be involved in all of these disgusting dis. A despicable behavior. But when the bell tolls and it's time to face the music, none of these people are built for that. You think these people are built for federal prison? Any of them? They are not built for that. So when the pressure comes, when the RICO case begins to fall down around their ears and the predicates and the indictments begin, none of these people are going to be able to keep their mouths shut. That, my friends, is a guarantee. Florida based, Mr. Kuvan added, if he were to set foot anywhere in America or on US territory, it would be like poking the bear. He could be arrested for failing to cooperate. And that's for sure. If you're compelled by the government to cooperate and they try to, you know, track you down and you still don't cooperate, etc, etc, well, they'll, they'll find a way to get you to cooperate. They'll find a way to compel you to cooperate. Oh, you had a jaywalking ticket three years ago, you didn't pay my man, you. Now you're in our custody and that's what they do. That's why I find it so laughable when we don't see people like Kellen Vickers or Leslie Groff or Adriana Ross or Ghislaine Maxwell or Jean Luc Brunel or any of these people getting arrested. Because normal folks, forget it. They'll get you. They will get you on something. If they can't nail you on the, the human trafficking, they'll get you on money crimes.

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Look at Al Capone.

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They tried to get him for all sorts of homicides and murders and mayhem. And what did they get him on? Tax evasion. 11 years on tax evasion. But at the end of the day, he was off of the street.

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Right?

Bobby Capucci (5:50)

And that's what I'M looking for here in this case. I want these people off of the street. There is zero chance these people were not involved with money crimes. Money fraud, wire fraud, laundering, all of it. And to see them still running around, nobody in trouble. The only two people arrested are two lowly prison guards who supposedly fell asleep the night Epstein supposedly killed himself. You mean to tell me that's justice? You mean to tell me that I should not be mocking the Department of Justice and Darth Barr? It should be mocked and it should be mocked mercilessly until it gets fixed. Because, folks, this is no good. The whole entire system is absolutely broken. Mr. Coven. Mr. Kuven spoke out after the US Department of Justice filed a formal request to the Home Office that for help to question the prince, it is aimed at forcing him to answer questions about his ties to pedophile Epstein, who was found hanged in his jail cell last August, age 66. Andrew's lawyers blasted back, saying he had offered three times to be a witness and it was entirely misleading to claim he had given zero cooperation to the FBI. Again, we're dealing with two scorpions, in my opinion. Right? If you're the frog, you can't give either of these people across a ride across the little lake here because they're going to sting you, even if they say they won't. You know why? Because it's in their nature. And the same goes for the Justice Department and Andrew's lawyers. They're all liars, in my opinion. There's not an honest one amongst the group. And I can say that with some confidence about how prosecutor, how the prosecutors work in this country. They're not. You know, I don't. I don't trust them to tell the truth. The police can straight up lie to you, right? They don't have to tell you the truth when you're being investigated or anything like that. They're not under any sort of restriction to be honest. You, on the other hand, you better be as honest as possible if you're going to run your fat yap. My advice? Say nothing and wait for a lawyer. They also accused US officials, including, including New York State Attorney Jeffrey Berman, of. Of mounting a cynical publicity stunt, telling lies and misleading the public. And now Berman's gone, huh? I know there's some people thinking that there's been some pressure, maybe by Buckingham palace to get rid of Berman. I don't know if any of that's true. I don't have any evidence of that. But look, I don't know if it's not true either. I'm very agnostic about everything in this case. Until I have evidence proving one way or the other about things in this case, I, I'm very open to whatever people might bring forward. I'm, I, I don't just discount anything out of hand at this point because this case is just filled with all sorts of crazy, crazy. The row exploded after a five month standoff between the 60 year old Prince and the FBI after he had vowed to help any appropriate law enforcement agency with their investigations and into Epstein during a disastrous BBC Newsnight interview. And disastrous is an understatement, right? That was an absolute horrible Hindenburg level interview. Andrew was always categorically denied any wrongdoing and said he never even met Virginia Roberts, who claims Epstein ordered her to have sex with the Royal on three occasions. Yeah, no, they never met. This picture here. Yeah, you're imagining that you've never seen that.

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Stop it.

Bobby Capucci (9:33)

I'm Prince Andrew. I'm telling you what you should see and what you shouldn't see. That picture is not me. My fingers are too fat. Shut up. Please just shut your stupid yap. Now however, American lawyers representing dozens of alleged survivors aim to turn up the pressure on Andrew and hope he may provide key evidence not just about Epstein but but also relating to British socialite and co conspirator Ghislaine Maxwell. In my opinion, Ghisaine Maxwell is the crown jewel right now. She's the one that needs to take the brunt of the justice here. She was the one that was co conspiring with Jeffrey Epstein. She was running things from behind the scenes. She was part of this whole entire intelligence operation. She should hold the bag. Guess what? If the boss gets clipped, then the underboss is the one who steps into the void and that's what's going on here. In my opinion, Maxwell should be hit with all sorts of RICO charges and all of them should include a leadership role which enhances your sentence by the way. She allegedly procured a stream of schoolgirls for the financier pedophile and has been in hiding since his death. Meanwhile, Epstein's former butler has also claimed Prince Andrew spent weeks at the pervert's mansion in Palm Beach, Florida during 2001. And we also know I confirmed this with sources of my own in Santa Fe when I was down there at Zorro Ranch. He was also at Zorro Ranch along with Bill Clinton by the way, and good old Hillary Clinton as well. Juan Alessi, 70, who unlike the prince, has been interviewed by the FBI, claims the estate was Full of nude pictures of young girls. And you would need to be blind not to see them. Well, that's for sure. And that goes for all of his sick and twisted friends and enablers that showed up there, hung out at his house, went to dinners, went to parties, went and high fived with the old

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princey boy, got their feet massaged, hung out with Alan.

Bobby Capucci (11:44)

I kept my underpants on, Dershowitz. Or, or we're hanging out in Glenn Dubin's kitchen. Any of you people must be questioned. And if you had any involvement whatsoever from a financial perspective or otherwise, well, you must eat RICO charges. It's the only way. See, if you don't compel these people to start ratting on each other and start turning state's evidence, then you're never, ever going to get to the bottom of this. The prosecutors know that. And for Darth Barr to give us only the two arrests of the lowly jail guards, it is a travesty. And frankly, I'm not going to just sit here and put up with it without asking questions and demanding answers because this is an absolute joke, okay? The SDNY is an absolute dumpster fire. This case, the Jeffrey Epstein case, should be kicked to a different district court at this point until these scumbags can get their, their story straight, get their, get their, their office in order. I mean, go ahead and give Chuck Rhodes a call. Maybe he'll come in and help you guys out. Because what's going on over there right now is an absolute joke. An absolute joke. The Justice Department is an embarrassment. They, they're an embarrassment to the nation. They're an embarrassment to the citizens, and they are most certainly an embarrassment to themselves. Do your jobs. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I@protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter at bo b b y Underscore Capuci.

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Are you concerned? Oh, onto the topic at hand. Today we have an article from the

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sun and we have one of the

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lawyers for some of the survivors unleashed.

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Spencer Kuvan Coven.

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Either way, I'm not exactly sure.

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I think it's Coven.

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Either way,

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he's pretty much just firing off and saying, hey, look, I wonder if Mark Epstein is putting any of

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this money in his pocket.

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Is this money all going to the fund? Where is all of this money? And is Mark Epstein, Jeffrey Epstein's brother, enriching himself in any way? So these are the questions that are being asked by one of the lawyers. So you know how I feel about that kind of stuff, right? Hard.

Bobby Capucci (14:27)

This is a hard subject.

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So hard questions must be asked. And up to this point, we really haven't seen much of that, right? We haven't seen the real amount of hard questions that should be asked, actually be asked. So when you see something like this from one of the lawyers, I always take note. I mean, I don't know what sort of evidence he has to back up his position.

Bobby Capucci (14:51)

Maybe he has some.

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Who knows? I, you know, we haven't seen anything in the public sphere that says that that's happening. Could it be happening? Yep, 100% it possibly could be happening. Who the hell knows? Like I always say, we only know what we know here, folks. But according to this lawyer, he's asking the question and he wants to know, is Jeffrey Epstein's brother Mark pocketing any of this money? Is he getting rich off of this somehow? So let's jump into the article from the sun and let's see what author Emma Parry has come up with. Headline, where's the money? Lawyer questions whether Jeffrey Epstein's Brother May be trying to pocket Cash Meant for survivors. It's a pretty loaded statement and a pretty rough question, but you know, those. Where'd the money go? How could an estate with all of that dough end up having a liquidity problem?

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It just defies logic, folks.

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It really. Spencer Kuvan, who represents nine survivors of the disgraced financier, told the sun that following the multi million dollar sale of Epstein's mansions in Palm Beach, Florida and in Manhattan, New York, he would like to see the entire amount of the proceeds go immediately to the Epstein survivors compensation program. Yeah, we're, we're aligned there, my friend. I think that's, that's the, the best

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course of action here.

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And I even think that, you know, the government loves to, you know, throw money around, put, you know, toss money into these programs all around the world, you know, pet programs of their friends, this, that, the other thing. Why don't they waive the taxes on this? As long as all of that money goes directly to the survivors compensation fund. And then if there's anything left over after that, then the government can maybe take a little piece for themselves. But it's, I think it would be a good idea for the government to wait on their portion. Is that reality? No. Is that how it'll ever work? Probably not. But, you know, sometimes you could have some pipe dreams, right? He speculated whether the accused sex trafficker Trafficker's brother, Mark Epstein may try to keep some of the money for himself, though he has not provided evidence of any wrongdoing. The estate denied the claim. Yeah, well, again, like I said earlier, I mean, I haven't seen any evidence of that, but that doesn't mean there isn't any evidence. Like, like we always talk about, we're only privy to so much, right? We only have so much that is available to us to go through and to look at and to use as a referral for other things in the case. So when it comes to things like this, I mean, the guy's a lawyer for 14 of the survivors. So look, when he, when he has something to say, you know, it's probably pay attention to what he has to say. Now, could he just be trying to

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stir the pot maybe?

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Right. I don't know their strategy. Again, I don't, I've never spoken to any of these lawyers. I don't, I don't know them from Sam, but that might be one of the strategies that's being used here. Or he could really think that, you know, I don't know, he's the one saying it, but, you know, big claims require big evidence. So I wonder if perhaps he does have some evidence of this happening. Now, we know that Denise George has alleged that Darren Kahn and, I mean Richard Kahn and Darren Indyke are part of the criminal conspiracy with her SECO suit. So who the hell knows what's going on behind the scenes with other participants or alleged participants within Jeffrey Epstein circle? The Survivors Compensation Fund announced on Friday it would start making payments to survivors once more after it was forced to stop due to insufficient funds. I mean, it's just unbelievable. Again, how could a estate with that kind of wealth have a problem with liquidity? These houses took a huge shave. All of these properties, they should have been sold off months ago. So if you were going to settle on 51, then, you know, you should have made this an express sale and really got things going. Same in Florida.

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What was the hold up?

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We heard about Glazer a few months ago and there was a hold up. I mean, it's, it's kind of ridiculous. No, I know, I know that it's a process to sell property, no doubt about it, but you got to think with all the money and all of the experts and all of the money that that was being spent by the estate, that they could have streamlined the process a bit quicker. No, it said 10 million had been provided to the fund from the sales of the properties which were sold for 51 million and 18.5 million. And additional funds will be made available in the future. What? 10 million out of what? 51. $69 million. $69.5 million. 10 million has been put into the fund. What in the hell does that even mean? And why, why isn't the large sum of that put into the fund? You know, it just doesn't, it doesn't make sense to me. What happens like usual is the government has to have their grubby hand involved in everything, right? I mean, if you and your neighbor want to trade a chicken for a cow, you better believe the government's showing up. And they're going to want a chicken leg, right? They want one of those legs off that chicken because they're entitled to it. And they want a few of those T bone steaks as well. Oh, on top of that, you better have my money because I'm taxing you. On top of that. It's absurd.

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It is really just absurd.

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And you would again, you would think in a situation like this that somebody would step in, somebody at the Department of Justice would contact one of their colleagues at the IRS or whoever the hell's in charge of this, in this never ending leviathan of bureaucracy, get in touch with whoever your colleague is and try and, you know, work something out so that all of these girls get paid out first and then, then the government can go and take the, the, the change. But no, they gotta get, and they gotta have their dos skis first, right? And according to Spencer Kuven here, well,

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he wants to know about Mark.

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Is Mark, is Mark dipping his fingers

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into the pot as well?

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One of the concerns I have on behalf of my clients, I represent nine survivors with respect to the current Epstein compensation fund, that these funds go immediately to the claims administrator to be distributed to the survivors. Kuvan told the Sun, I think that's the sane and logical thing to say or think, right? Isn't that what the money's for? What is it going to go sit into a trust fund? What are they going to go move it down to Southern Trust Ltd? I mean, I don't even understand what

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any of that means.

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How many bills could they possibly have for gardeners? How many bills could they possibly have for aircraft maintenance? Not 69 and a half million worth or 59 and a half million worth, considering only 10 million, according to this article, has found its way to that fund. That, that's, that's ridiculous, folks. Honestly, that is absolutely, positively ridiculous. Up until now, things have been put on hold because the funds advised the survivors that there weren't ins, that there were insufficient funds to satisf claims. They assured the survivors more funds would be made available soon. So on behalf of the survivors, we would certainly hope that the entire amount of the sale of the house be immediately handed over to the fund administrator, because that's where the money belongs. It's for the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein and no one else. You know, me and this guy, we're. We're definitely aligned here. Mr. Kuvan. I mean, I agree 100% and wholeheartedly that anyone who has their hand out and who is trying to dig into this fund from these revivers should be ashamed of themselves. And that goes for the government of the United States as well. I mean, how ridiculous. As if the United States government doesn't waste that kind of money on a couple of absurd bombing runs over Syria that nobody even asked for. Over a sovereign nation that Congress has never even declared war on. And you mean to tell me you can't waive the fee on the taxes for these survivors?

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Yeah.

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Okay. Yeah, great. Government cares. The government's so woke. They so care about you. Meanwhile, remember, all of those people that you're cheering on like they're a sports team, are involved with the hush fund in Congress and the Senate. Even the ones that haven't used it, they're enabling it. Have they demanded it? Has anyone stood up there with a 14 hour filibuster about it? No, of course not. Because it's all BS with these people. Unfortunately, like most of the Epstein saga, the survivors have been kept in the dark in regards to the specifics of Epstein's funds. And all, as they have been told, is that their claim will be a fair amount regardless of what funds exist.

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Yeah, I don't think that's cool either.

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How about an open line of communication with these girls? If these girls want to call Joanna Feldman or the people running the compensation fund 10 times a day, then so be it. How much money are these fund, the fund managers making? And I don't mean Indyke and Khan. I'm talking about Feldman and her company, her group. What. How much money are they making here? You mean to tell me they shouldn't be around to answer some calls and provide some clarity if these girls want to ask some questions? I mean, that's pretty vague. Their claim will be a fair amount regardless what funds exist. How can you even make that, that. That claim if. If you don't know what the funds are going to be? So that's a little weird, right? The Epstein Survivors Fund announced on Friday that it was resuming payments after a month long delay. I am pleased to report that the program can now resume full operations and after this unfortunate and unexpected month long delay, said fund administrator Jordana Feldman. So that is definitely a good thing, right?

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A plus.

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But like everything else in this Jeffrey Epstein case, there's layers to it. And that is only 10 million of 69 and a half million Iraqs went, went to them.

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How's that even possible?

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Not even half gets dropped in there. A paltry half when it should be everything. You mean to tell me that you're gonna give them, I don't know, 1/7 of the pie? Where's the rest of that money going? The government's only taking so much, right? You would think, you know, then again, who knows what the G men are up to? Dudes are behind the scenes counting their beans and figuring out how they can enrich the government a little bit more. We have continued to process claims and hold meetings with claimants in anticipation of the resolution of the Epstein of the estate's liquidity issue and will begin issuing compensation offers immediately.

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All right, well, it says that they

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continue to hold meetings with the claimants. That's good. I think that an open line of communication isn't too much to ask for, right? If it was me, I would want an open line of communication. I'd want to be able to reach out to somebody and say, hey, what the hell is going on here? And be it through my lawyer or personally or whatever it is, I think that that line of communication is. But Kuvan still questions what has happened to Epstein's fortune, estimated to be around $577 million. And there we get to it, right, folks, what exactly has happened to all of this money? We know that there's only been a small amount, comparatively speaking, put into the fund. So where is all of this money gone? And again, how many gardeners can you possibly employ? There needs to be a full audit of the estate.

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I think.

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I think that, you know, I've been thinking about this for a few days and I think a full audit is definitely appropriate here. And I wonder if the government can order that. I mean, you would think that they could, right? But I wonder if the prosecution, Denise, George or anyone else is thinking about that.

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Pretty interesting.

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We know that there was over half a billion dollars seized by the U.S. attorney's office. But the question is, where's that money gone? No one knows at this point, Kuvan said. So there you go, right from the horse's mouth. The lawyer for the, for nine of the survivors has no idea where this money went either.

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And neither do we. Neither does anybody really. I mean, the estate or the people

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managing the money probably have an idea where it went, but on the, from the outside looking, we can only speculate. That's why I say all the time hard questions have to be asked, even if they're, you know, these kinds of questions. Now again, I don't know what sort of evidence Spencer Cuvin has here, but hopefully he, you know, he, he has something. Or maybe he's just throwing the question out there. Cuvin speculated whether Mark Epstein, who has been named as Epstein's heir in court papers, is trying to keep as much of the money as he possibly can as opposed to compensating the survivors fairly. That's pretty loaded. I mean, that's a pretty loaded statement, right? And it takes some, some huevos to make a statement like that. When contacted by the Sun, Mark Epstein hit out at Kuvan, calling him a moron, but declined to comment further. Oh, all right, well that's pretty, that's pretty straight to the point by Epstein. The younger Epstein. The younger just had, he's like, you know what, all right, you're a moron, bro. How about that? Instead of answering any questions or going into detail, he's just like, look, you're a. I have nothing else to say, okay, that's all fine and well and I get it, right? Probably not the best thing to do, getting get into a war of words with the lawyers of the lawyer of these girls and bring attention to yourself, but unfortunately these questions have to be asked and you know, if the legacy media isn't doing their job and asking them, somebody has to do it. Lawyers for Epstein's estate denied that Mark Epstein had anything to do with the administration or operations of the estate and said that all the money from the recent sales will go to the fund. Well, that's all fine and well and that's great if that's what they say, okay, I don't have any evidence that says that that's not the case. But to act like Indyck and Khan had no idea who Mark Epstein is or that Mark Epstein in turn had no idea who Indyke or Khan is, that's a bit ridiculous. That's the selling a bridge in the desert type of deal. It would be nonsensical for the co executors to hamstring an independent program that they themselves voluntarily developed, designed and implemented for the very purpose of compensating survivors of Mr. Epstein's sexual abuse. Dan Weiner, counsel for the co executors, told the Sun. Well, right there you have it, folks. The estate admits that Jeffrey Epstein abused these girls, point blank, period. So now Ghislaine Maxwell is going to say she had nothing to do with it, huh? Okay, what were you doing for all those years hanging out around there, Ghislaine? These are the questions that have to be asked. And all the whinging and crying about conditions in court, I mean conditions in jail and loopholes and all the other nonsense is never going to cut it. Because the fact of the matter is the estate, by setting up this compensation fund and then just right here with this comment again, is admitting that Jeffrey Epstein did in fact abuse these girls. In fact, the EVCP announced on Friday afternoon that it's resuming insurance of survivor compensation determinations in light of the estate's commitment to provide further funding realized through the co executor sale of the NYC and Palm beach properties. The co executors regularly and publicly account to the Superior Court of the US Virgin Islands on all assets and liabilities of the estate, most recently filing its fifth quarterly accounting last month. Well, again, that's like I talk about with tax returns. It's all fine and well, if you're, you know, stating everything that you have made or everything that has come in, just because you're reporting doesn't mean you're reporting everything that should be in the report. Right? Everything that is required. So that's fine and well and good on you guys. Great. You know, here's a, here, here's a golf clap for the estate for doing their job. But that doesn't mean that we should just trust blindly the reports filed by the estate. Again, I think a full audit must occur. Mr. Kuvan suggest suggestion that estate funds have gone missing, suggests either that he has not read the fifth quarterly accounting or, or chooses to ignore its detailed explanation of the estate's expenditure of funds, including over 200 million in taxes paid to date to state, federal and French governmental authorities. And now nearly 100 million provided to the EVCP for payment of survivor compensation. 100 million, huh? Last we heard, only 50 million had been paid out. And now they're saying just 10 million was provided. So which is it? You see what goes on here? The contradictions and the bs. That's why we got to stay on top of this shit. And that's why we can't trust the nonsense coming out of their mouths over at the estate. There has been no delay whatsoever in The EVCP paying those women who accept its compensation determinations. The one, the one month pause in its issuance of new compensation determinations, a pause necessitated by the estate's lack of liquidity in the midst of a worldwide payment pandemic now resolved through the co executive sales of the NYC and Palm beach properties, did not prejudice or slow payments of any previously accepted EVCP compensation determination, nor will it delay payments of any new determination. Okay, so basically what you're saying is nothing because the money stopped. All right? Those are the facts. Spinning it doesn't change anything. The compensation stopped, right? You stopped taking new compensation requests. Point blank, period. Spin it up, dress it up any way you want. Oh, the pandemic. How many times are we going to have to hear that? That's getting tired and old. These properties should have been spun off, sold a very long time ago. In response, Kuvan said, obviously the estate is protecting its own beneficiaries. He said that the whole saga had been very frustrating for the survivors he represents. These girls are now women who have been repeatedly denied justice, he said. Yup, 100%. And that's why it's so frustrating. Right? And remember folks, not just the survivors have been denied justice. Society as a whole, me, you and everybody else, if everybody isn't demanding a full trial here, a full investigation, then I don't know what's wrong with you. Because if anything has ever necessitated a full on full blown investigation, it is this. These are young women who were denied justice initially when he was let go, they were denied justice when he got a sweetheart deal, they were denied justice again when he pressured them into settlements because of his heavily handed surveillance and pressure tactics during litigation. They were then denied justice when he was arrested because they could not see him face trial and he was allowed to commit suicide or murdered in jail. It's another repeat of the same unfortunate tragedy in this Epstein saga. Nail on the head 100%. How many times have we talked about it, the repeated, the repeated abuse of these survivors, first by Epstein and then by a broken system. Nobody wants to take responsible for that broken system. You'll got these lawyers that come out, you know, for that now that Maxwell's in jail and talk about, oh, it's so bad and so horrible. Where were you for all of these decades? Working towards making the system right, making it fair. Nowhere to be seen. A number of the survivors I represent were abused in the house in Palm beach and they were incredibly happy to hear that. Along with the sale of the Palm beach home, the plans were it would be destroyed. That's music to the, to the survivors ears for sure. It definitely should be. And like I said, I think that Glazer should offer the survivors to go down there, grab a sledge and do a little bit of remodeling themselves.

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I don't know if it's a realistic

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option for the property in New York given its location, but I can't imagine

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anyone wanting to live in a home

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where numerous young girls have been raped.

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It's like living in a home where

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a murder has occurred. Epstein killed himself while awaiting trial, allegedly for his sex crimes back in August 2019. His alleged accomplice, Ghislaine Maxwell, remains in prison and is due to face court in July. So the war of words is heating up, folks. You got Spencer Kuvan, lawyer for nine of the survivors, coming out with both guns hot, both guns blazing, and asking if Mark Epstein is dipping his fingers into the pie and wetting his beak via this money. In return, you have Epstein the younger firing back. That Spencer Kuvan is a moron. Meanwhile, the rest of us are just swimming through the murky water looking for some clarity. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I@protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter Bobby Cap Ucci. All of the links that go with this episode can be found in the description box. Alright, everybody, depending on the new what's up, everyone?

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And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. Last night we were talking about how Whitey Bulger was killed while he was an inmate in the hands of the federal government and how it looks like the federal government put him in that position on purpose. Now that might seem like a far out statement, but when you look at the facts and you go back and read the article and listen to the episode, you'll see that everything falls into place. And when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein, there's been plenty of people who have said from the very beginning that he met the same kind of fate inside of the jail at McCann. Now, we don't know what happened, okay? There's no official, official narrative. There's only what they have told us. Until we see real evidence, which they have not provided by the way because they continue to say, well, this is an ongoing investigation. So until they provide real evidence one way or the other, we have to remain open minded to what could have happened in that cell. Now, he could have committed suicide, folks. That is a Very high possibility that he did. But what initiated that suicide? What did Tartaglioni say to him in the jail cell previously? That's what I've always thought, that Tartaglioni was the one who put the little ear mite in his ear and told him, listen, pal, you're either gonna clip yourself or we're gonna clip you. Here's a little taste of what's coming your way.

Bobby Capucci (40:20)

Then.

Co-host or Guest Commentator (40:21)

Then he assaulted him. Now, do I have evidence that can prove that? No, but nobody else does either that can counter what I just said because the cameras weren't working that day, remember? So all you have to go on is what Tartaglioni said and what Epstein said. And what did Epstein say originally? Well, that he was assaulted, didn't he? And in this article from way back in the day, 2019, we're gonna hear from Spencer Kuvan, who was a attorney for a bunch of the survivors of Jeffrey Epstein. This article was published by Daily Mail, and like I said, it was published on August 23rd of 2019. Headline, Attorney for three of Jeffrey Epstein's survivors believes the pedophile was murdered and bases his claim on information from a prison source. Now, this is Spencer Kuvan and what he says he thinks happened in that jail. A lawyer for three of Jeffrey Epstein's survivors claims to have obtained information proving the multi millionaire financier pedophile was murdered and did not commit suicide as conf. As confirmed by officials. Now, again, last night when we were talking about Whitey Bulger, the reason I talked about that specific story was so that we could highlight today's story. Now, you see how the government works. You see how the government functions. You see that they'll get in bed with mass murderers, and then you'll see how they wash their hands clean of them when they're no longer proven to be needed or necessary. They'll burn those assets. Assets. And they'll keep it moving. We saw it with Whitey Bulger, and it's my opinion that we saw it with Jeffrey Epstein as well. Spencer Kuven, who previously predicted that Epstein would not live to see his trial, alleges that an anonymous prison worker contacted him to say it was highly unlikely the 66 year old killed himself. Epstein killed himself, allegedly, August 10th in his cell of his New York Metropolitan Correctional center in downtown Manhattan while awaiting trial on federal sex trafficking charges. So we all know the story at this point. The official story is he killed himself using bed sheets and hung himself off of the bed post there. And according to the authorities, that was Enough to get the job done. But there has been a whole bunch of questions surrounding the whole entire situation. And when Dr. Michael Baden took a look at the autopsy results, he had a lot of questions as well. So it's not like just a bunch of yahoos are running around trying to, you know, ask questions this way or that way or muddy the waters. I think a lot of people just want some damn answers here. And the authorities, the Department of Justice, the Bureau of Prisons, they have been unwilling to give anybody any sort of transparent answer here. All they've been willing to do is to say to us, hey, look, we're telling you this is true, so you gotta trust us. And I don't know about you folks, but I think I've had enough of the hey, I'm from the government, we're here to help type of rhetoric. An investigation later determined that Epstein hanged himself using a bed sheet as a makeshift noose and wrapping it around his neck. However, Kuvan is attempting to suggest otherwise, telling the Sun, a source told him that every square inch of the cells where Epstein was kept were covered by surveillance cameras. So investigators shouldn't have needed to conduct an investigation. He says the pedophile's death would have been documented on video. But of course, the cameras just coincidentally happened to be broken.

Bobby Capucci (44:17)

Huh?

Co-host or Guest Commentator (44:17)

Oh, they were pointed at the wrong cell. They're pointed at the. The second tier, not the first tier. Oh, we made a big mistake here. We don't. We didn't have any cameras on Jeffrey Epstein, the most important prisoner we have right now. We couldn't secure him. And then the travesty behind all of that is nobody ended up losing their pension. Did they? Did anyone get fired? Was anyone really punished for what happened here? Besides a couple of low hanging fruit, which were the guards. What about the boss who was on duty? What about his boss? What about his boss's boss? See, these are the things that need to happen if we're going to have accountability. These people can't hide behind the fact that, you know, there's this big bureaucracy and they could serve up one of their underlings. What about the people that made the decisions? Just like with Acosta. Sure, Acosta should have never been in the position he was in, and he deserved every bit of scorn that he got. Not a good man, a coward, a chump, and somebody who really obviously has no desire to. To see justice done. But he wasn't the person who signed off on that.

Co-host or Guest Commentator (45:25)

The, The.

Co-host or Guest Commentator (45:26)

The actual signature that came from up top. The Department of Justice, they made that decision, the mukazis of the world. And Acosta was just the executioner. The first words out of his mouth, to be honest, were, don't believe what you are hearing in regards to Epstein's death. I had a lengthy conversation with him about the issue of security within mcc,

Co-host or Guest Commentator (45:55)

and he gave me a fairly detailed

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description of the interior of the jail, which led me to believe that he was credible. He told the outlet. He told me how the special housing unit where Mr. Epstein was kept was basically designed to be a jail within the jail. According to Kuvan, his source said there was an even more secure unit where the prison's highest profile inmates were kept, such as Epstein, who are under surveillance 24 hours a day. And this is why I've always had such a big issue with all of this and with the official narrative that they pitched to us, because it doesn't. It doesn't make sense. It doesn't fit for what's supposed to go on in there. You mean to tell me the place where you keep a guy like El Chapo and the rest of these high profile inmates and their cameras never broke? Everything was fine for all the time they were there. How come John Gotti's cameras never broke? It only happens for Epstein, who happens to have ties to the government. Now, look, it could all just be a coincidence. I want to stress that it's possible, but it sure seems like a whole lot of coincidences. So I'm going to need to see evidence from the federal government to prove otherwise, or this is going to be one of those. We can't call it. If reports that there is no CCTV are true, it would mean that they'd either shut the cameras off or they were not functioning in some way, Kuvan theorized. He says there's no way that they would not have been not able to see what was going on. So those are the two options. Either they were malfunctioning or they weren't turned on and the federal government says, oh, they were malfunctioning. And the first time around, they were just directed at the wrong cell. So we didn't catch anything that time around. So you mean to tell me two separate instances with the same man in the same facility in two separate spots, and the cameras weren't working both times? Okay, I guess if that's the narrative and if that's what you want me to believe. All right, folks. The attorney has also voiced his own suspicions that Epstein's cellmate was reportedly moved to a different holding area just hours before Epstein was Found dead, Epstein had been placed on suicide watch after he had apparently made an unsuccessful attempt to take his own Life on July 24, having been found unconscious on the floor with injuries to his neck. And this is the Tartaglioni situation. This is the whole entire thing that doesn't make sense. How was he in this cell with Tartaglioni in the first place? And then he gets these injuries and we just call it a suicide attempt. Then Tartaglioni says, well, I tried to help him out. So you let him get to the point where he had everything around his neck until he was choking himself, and then you helped him out. Yeah, because that makes sense. More likely, you had your big ass meat hawk hands wrapped around his throat and you were choking him. He was taken off suicide watch not long after returning from hospital. The purpose of a cellmate for someone who either who. Who was on suicide watch or is on suicide watch is to notify guards if something is happening. So the fact that they pulled the cellmate is only one level above negligent. And it also appears intentionally told the sun, really, he should have been on suicide watch. Not only was he not on suicide watch, they pulled the one person that could have notified the guards if something untoward was about to occur. And that's the whole reason for having him in the cell with somebody. So that's the reason they gave for having him in with Tartaglione, who's accused of homicide, by the way, and all kinds of, you know, violent crime. That's not the kind of guy you put in the cell with Jeffrey Epstein, but I guess they have their own way of doing things down at the mcc, and I guess that's why it's closed now. It was almost as though they did it so that no one could see what was going to happen the following day. Much of Kuvan's doubt stems from his three meetings with Epstein, from which he believes the pedophile lacked the resolve to carry out such an act. He always seemed highly intelligent, arrogant, self assured, confident, never thought he did anything wrong, even in light of all the evidence against him. He basically just blamed the victims and had an incredible ego about himself. And someone with that type of ego just never struck me as someone that could possibly commit suicide. I didn't think he was that brave, to be perfectly honest. He always hid behind lawyers upon lawyer upon lawyer in his civil and criminal cases. I mean, you can't even count the number of people he hired to protect him from any allegations, both civil and criminal. This type of act requires A certain amount of resolve, and he just never struck me as someone who could do that. I hear you. I never really bought the whole Epstein was suicidal type deal anyway. Considering what we have heard from people that were around him at the time and different lawyers, it just doesn't seem like he was suicidal. Now, who knows what happened in that cell with Tartaglione that could have pushed him towards this, but my guess is that whatever happened in that cell with Tartaglioni was the straw that broke the camel's back. Kuvan previously speculated in the days leading up to Epstein's death that he was in jeopardy of being killed because he had powerful friends who didn't want their secrets out. As a result, the attorney believed that somebody inside the prison was paid to make Epstein's death look like a suicide, and the guards were paid to disappear and not be there. Well, we know the guards were sleeping. We know that for a fact nobody did their rounds. And, you know, you would think we'd hear a whole lot more about these

Co-host or Guest Commentator (51:38)

guards and they would be really dragged

Co-host or Guest Commentator (51:40)

and their bosses would be dragged, but no, they get off on deferred sentences. So someone went in there in the early morning hours, tied him around the neck with a bed sheet, tied the bed sheet to the bed, and pushed him down effectively and held him down until he choked to death. With the fracture of the bone in his neck, it suggests a high amount of force pushing down on him. He continued. I think the most likely scenario, if it's not suicide, as I've said before, is that there are too many people who were afraid that he would talk about what he may have done with them and others. They just paid off someone to go into the jail and take care of them. Hey, look, that's pretty fiery rhetoric from Spencer Kuvan, but I can't shake the Tartaglioni angle here, folks. I just cannot shake it. And if you're gonna have somebody do something like this, you would think a guy like Tartaglioni would be the perfect person to recruit. Big juice head, gorilla, ex cop, violent criminal. So probably has some connections.

Co-host or Guest Commentator (52:37)

Yeah.

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Representing three of Epstein's survivors. Kuvan says he is demanding a full investigation be carried out into what happened in the prison, as well as seeing Epstein's co conspirators arrested. Well, we still don't know what happened in that. In that jail cell, but on the heels of that Whitey Bulger episode, I wanted to share this one with you as well, while that one was fresh in your mind. Now, again, look, it's quite possible that he killed himself. But what led up to it? Are we ever going to get anything from the official report, or are they going to just keep kicking the can down the road and tell us, well, this is an ongoing investigation, one of those ongoing investigations that goes on forever, because that's what it seems like so far. Hopefully, at some point we get some more answers about those cameras, how it all happened, the chain of custody, because we have no answers as of now. And until those answers are presented, people are going to continue to have questions. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I@protonmail.com youm can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Capuci. The link that I discussed can be found in the description box.