Mega Edition: The Clinton's Version Of The Epstein Story And The Actual Story (5/9/26)

Summary

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Podcast Summary: The Epstein Chronicles

Mega Edition: The Clinton's Version Of The Epstein Story And The Actual Story (5/9/26)

Host: Bobby Capucci
Date: May 10, 2026

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Episode Overview

In this “Mega Edition,” Bobby Capucci takes listeners through newly surfaced details about the deep, longstanding relationship between Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell, and the Clintons—particularly Bill and Hillary. Drawing from recent articles, unsealed court documents, and insights from former Maxwell employees, Capucci contrasts the public narrative pushed by the Clintons with what he asserts is the more troubling, documented history of connections, access, and mutual support between the parties. The episode gives particular focus to Bill Clinton’s White House visitor logs, foundation funding links to Maxwell, and the broader culture of elite impunity surrounding Epstein’s enterprise.

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Key Discussion Points & Insights

1. New Revelations: Ghislaine Maxwell, Bill Clinton, and the Signed Memoir

• [00:58-06:00] Capucci discusses a Daily Mail article revealing that Maxwell possessed a copy of Bill Clinton's "My Life" memoir, inscribed by Clinton "To Ghislaine with love."

  • Quote: “If this happened, just a one off and someone had a book that was signed by Bill Clinton. You could chalk that up to going to a book signing... But when you look at the overall relationship... it’s rather obvious they were a lot closer than they let on.” (Capucci, 01:56)

• The host ties this artifact to the broader context of close social ties: Maxwell’s attendance at Chelsea Clinton’s wedding, multiple White House visits, and substantial donations to the Clinton Foundation.

2. Insider Testimony: Maxwell’s Former Dog Walker

• [00:58-13:41] Rasmus Alpschu, Maxwell’s former dog nanny, offers testimony on the culture inside Maxwell’s home.
  • Describes a “messy” environment, the intimidating demeanor of Maxwell’s “secret husband” Scott Borgerson, and subtle cues about Maxwell’s focus on Swedish (and specifically young) male staff.
  • Suggests a sense of secrecy and social hierarchy in the Maxwell household.
  • Quote: “[Maxwell and Borgerson] felt like they were above me, and I got self conscious. Look, man, there’s no doubt... they were the kind of people that talked down to people.” (Capucci, 09:58)

3. The Clinton-Maxwell-Epstein Money Trail

• [14:41-31:59] Capucci explores a report by Chris Spargo on the Clintons’ ongoing financial links to Maxwell’s "TerraMar Project," a charity initiated after public knowledge of both Epstein and Maxwell’s alleged crimes.

  • Unsealed documents specifically discuss the Clinton Foundation’s contributions and the use of their “credibility” to promote Maxwell’s work, despite public allegations.
  • Quote: “Why would the Clintons be funding Ghislaine Maxwell’s Terramar project considering all of the allegations hanging over Ghislaine Maxwell’s head? I’ll tell you why. Because they don’t care.” (Capucci, 23:33)

• Capucci criticizes both political and media reluctance to press Clintons about their connections—contrasting their “pass” with the treatment of others like Prince Andrew.

4. Context of Maxwell’s Prosecution and Ongoing Threat to Flip

• [14:41-31:59] Brief commentary on Maxwell’s conviction, pending sentencing, and speculation about whether she may “flip” to reduce her sentence by naming other elite associates.
  • Skepticism toward the will and capability of U.S. prosecutors to seek broader conspiratorial or RICO charges.

5. The Known-Unknowns: Clinton Access and Social Endorsement

• [31:59-51:50+] Deep dive into newly analyzed White House visitor logs uncovered by Daily Mail. Epstein visited the White House at least 17 times between 1993-1995, including multiple double-visits in a day—often signed in by senior aides.

  • Quote: “So now remember, 1994 to 2004 is the time frame where these alleged crimes by Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were taking place. So while these alleged crimes were happening, … he’s also going to the White House to party it up with good old Billy boy Clinton.” (Capucci, 42:58)

• These visits coincide with substantial donations, major fundraisers, and increasing post-presidency social ties, including 26 recorded flights by Bill Clinton on Epstein's plane (the "Lolita Express")—sometimes without his Secret Service detail.

6. Legacy Media: Avoidance and Accountability

• Capucci repeatedly emphasizes the lack of serious, sustained coverage of Clinton’s ties, attributing this to political motivations, media gatekeeping, and an “elite protection racket.”
  • Quote: “It’s gross that it’s left to people like us to try and hold an ex president accountable. The media should be digging into this story like it’s nobody’s business.” (Capucci, 51:11)

7. Survivor Testimony and the Broader Elite Ecosystem

• Details survivor stories, particularly Virginia Roberts Giuffre, who specifically described Clinton's presence on Epstein's private island and his arrival with two young girls.

  • Quote: “That's Virginia Roberts saying it, folks, not me. This is what she saw, this is what she says happened. And we don't think that's a big deal?” (Capucci, 85:46)

• Describes the pattern of philanthropic events, society parties, and the use of charity as cover for deeper criminality and network-building among wealthy elites.

8. Capucci’s Overarching Argument

• The host is unequivocal in arguing that the extent of the Clinton-Epstein relationship has been sanitized both by the Clintons and mainstream outlets; he believes the mounting public documentation demands a far more robust investigation and public reckoning.

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Notable Quotes & Timestamps

• On Clinton’s distance from accountability:

  "When are we going to see that against Bill Clinton? That is the question." (Capucci, 02:55)

• On insider elitist attitudes:

  “They felt like they were above me, and I got self conscious.” (Alpschu quote via Capucci, 09:58)

• On charitable partnerships, post-allegation:

  “These people were tight and everybody knew it. But yet the Clintons were still in bed, quote unquote, with Ghislaine Maxwell. The Clintons were still funding her, donating to her, still inviting her to events...” (Capucci, 15:50)

• On evidence of close ties:

  "It’s well established that Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton were boys. It’s not even a question." (Capucci, 41:43)

• On mainstream media’s failure:

  “Can you imagine if the legacy media would pursue this with the zest and the vigor that they should? ...where there’s smoke, there is usually fire.” (Capucci, 25:35)

• On survivor Virginia Roberts’ statement:

  “I remember asking Jeffrey, what’s Bill Clinton doing here? And he laughed it off and said, well, he owes me a favor.” (Capucci quoting Roberts, 85:46)

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Essential Timeline & Segment Timestamps

• [00:58] - Launch of main topic with the signed Bill Clinton memoir and the broader context of Clinton-Maxwell ties.
• [01:56-06:00] - Analysis of the significance of the book and photograph.
• [06:00-13:41] - Testimony from Maxwell’s dog walker, revealing household culture/secrecy.
• [14:41-31:59] - Examination of Clinton Foundation’s financial support for Ghislaine Maxwell’s TerraMar Project using newly unsealed court documents.
• [31:59-51:50+] - Detailed walkthrough of White House visitor logs showing Epstein’s repeated access, intersection with major Clinton staffers/events.
• [51:11+] - Critique of media handling.
• [85:46] - Reference to survivor testimony and further elaboration of the wider implications.

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Memorable Moments

• Bill Clinton’s heavily personalized inscription “To Ghislaine with love” on his memoir, found by a house staffer and photographed at Maxwell’s $15M NYC townhouse.
• Quotes and revelations from Rasmus Alpschu about the “power couple” culture and microaggressions at the heart of Maxwell’s social circle.
• Citations from unsealed legal documents explicitly discussing Clinton Foundation donations to Maxwell's project, even as allegations swirled.
• Clear documentation of at least 17 White House visits by Epstein and post-presidency flights with Clinton, punctuated by survivor accounts.
• Capucci’s ongoing frustration and disbelief at the lack of tough questioning of Bill and Hillary Clinton by reporters, compared to the scrutiny of other Epstein associates (eg. Prince Andrew).

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Tone, Style, and Takeaways

Bobby Capucci delivers his commentary in an unfiltered, sometimes caustic tone, focused on cutting through political and media obfuscation. He is deeply skeptical of elites, mocking both their self-perpetuating cycles of “philanthropy” and access as well as the major news outlets he feels have repeatedly failed the public. The episode is rich in documentation and pointed in its analysis, making frequent calls for greater accountability and investigation.

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Conclusion

This “Mega Edition” confronts the sanitized mainstream narrative of Clinton's interactions with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, arguing for widespread public and institutional reckoning with the ties exposed by newly surfaced documents and survivor accounts. Capucci concludes that understanding the scope and persistence of these elite relationships is essential—not just for the sake of accountability, but for justice for survivors and a more honest public discourse.

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For further materials, check links in the episode description and supporting articles referenced throughout.

Transcript

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[Bobby Capucci]

Back to the Epstein Chronicles Yesterday we were introduced to a gentleman named Erasmus Alpschu and he was Ghislaine Maxwell's dog walker dog nanny for several months. And he had some pretty interesting things to say. Well, the Daily Mail has a new article out today and they're adding some context to the conversation from yesterday and talking about the book that Ghislaine Maxwell had in her possession that was signed by none other than the ex President of the United States of America, Billy Clinton. So let's not whinge too much here in the monologue and let's just dive right in today. Like I said, this article is from the Daily Mail and the headline is exclusive to Ghislaine with Love. Photo shows a signed copy of Bill Clinton's 2004 memoir he gifted to Maxwell as her former dog walker reveals he found it at her $15 million New York townhouse. $15 million New York townhouse. Amazing. This lady's living in the lapse of luxury while these girls, these survivors, were living in a nightmare. Basically no justice and almost no hope. Thankfully, things changed a bit and Maxwell got arrested. And you know, the shoe is on the other foot now. The girls have a life full of hope, a future that is, you know, something that they're looking forward to, maybe. Whereas Maxwell, on the other hand, all she has to look forward to is bars and baloney sandwiches. This article was authored by Daniel Bates. Bill Clinton signed a copy of his memoir to Ghislaine Maxwell. A photograph exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com reveals Now look, if this happened, just a one off and someone had a book that was signed by Bill Clinton. You could chalk that up to going to a book signing or, you know, to some fundraiser or whatever and getting it. But when you look at the overall relationship between Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Jeffrey Epstein and the whole nine, it's rather obvious that they were a lot closer than they let on. I mean, look, you don't get invited to people's weddings if you're not close. You don't get invited to the White House that many times if you're not that close. And you certainly don't get a check upwards of $5 million given to your foundation if you're not that close. So the question is, when is Bill Clinton and his representatives going to be called out for their relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? Because we have not seen that yet. Oh, we've seen a little bit of dancing around the edges, but we haven't seen the full on blitz that we've seen against Andrew. When are we going to see that against Bill Clinton? That is the question. The former President wrote to Ghislaine with love in blue marker in the front cover of My Life, said Maxwell's former dog walker, Rasmus Alpschu. Alpschu told Daily Mail that he remembered finding the copy of My Life, which came out in 2004, one day at Maxwell's $15 million New York townhouse. Now look, Bill Clinton should have to answer for this relationship. He should have to answer for him telling us he was only on that plane a handful of times, 4, 5, 6, whatever it was, when in reality it was in the 20s. He doesn't have to answer for that. His representative doesn't get pressed on that. He took a picture to remind himself of it and thought that it added to the mystery about who Maxwell was. Absolutely. Look, if you're going to be living at Maxwell's and you get a chance to snap a picture like that, I would too. Why not? And when you click on the link here, you'll see it. It's the first page. It opens up Bill Clinton, my life to Ghislaine with love, signed Bill Clinton. What a pathetic, pathetic picture. To surface. The friendly tone of the letter is one of the latest indications of how close Maxwell was with Clinton, who has repeatedly denied wrongdoing in relation to Epstein. Again, look, I'm not saying that Bill Clinton was molesting women with Jeffrey Epstein. I'm not saying that. Nobody has come forward to say that yet. What I am saying is the ex President of the United States enabling Jeffrey Epstein, the ex President of the United States, flying on this plane dozens of times, the ex President of the United States of America getting money from this guy. It's not a bigger story. It's not something that should be looked into. Clinton flew on Epstein's jet dozens of times, including trips to Africa and Asia. After he left office in 2010, Maxwell attended the wedding of Clinton's daughter Chelsea in Rhinebeck, upstate New York. And make no mistake, if Jeffrey Epstein wasn't convicted at this time, he would have been there too. But the optics weren't good. I refer you back to what Doug Band had to say about all of this. And we all know that Doug Band was the gatekeeper to Bill Clinton for a very long time. So the question is, once again, if they weren't close, if they didn't have this deep, tied relationship, then why is she inviting Ghislaine to the wedding? You don't just invite anyone to a wedding, especially a wedding like this. Alp Shue also revealed that Maxwell's bedroom was always messy with pillows and clothes on the floor. On the weekends, her then boyfriend, now estranged husband, Scott Borgerson would visit. Well, that lines up with her cell, right? They said she didn't even like to flush the toilet when she used the bathroom in her cell, according to the prosecutors. So that lines up. Here's an idea. Wake up in the morning, clean your room and take a shower. Not very difficult. He recalled they were newly in love and acted like young people rather than a couple in middle age. Aw, how cute. I'm sure that later on down the road when Scott Borgerson's kids are old enough to grasp the situation, I'm sure they're gonna be real proud of daddy old boy here, leaving their mom leaving them for a convicted human trafficker. Alpchu said that they really came off as a power couple and revealed that Borgerson left him scared with his military style demeanor and the firmest handshake you can imagine. Well, I won't delve any more into that, but come on man. Scott Borgerson, not really what I would think is an intimidating specimen. In the interview, Alpchu said that in spring of 2015 when he worked for Maxwell, Borgerson would visit on the weekends. The pair would marry in 2016 and sold the townhouse for 15 and moved to Manchester by the sea where they bought a 7.2 million dollar mansion on the waterfront. Now we all know that Borgerson is dipped. When times got tough for Ghislaine, didn't he went and got himself a yoga instructor. Peace. See you later, Ghislaine Maxwell. So the question is what was he doing with her in the first place? None of it even adds up to me, honestly. Alp Shoe said Borgerson was the one who had the talk with me. They really came off as a power couple. I remember coming home from something and my hair was fussy, and I came in and met them, and he said, your hair looks like a bird's nest. They laughed in a not very nice way. They felt like they were above me, and I got self conscious. Look, man, there's no doubt we've heard from a lot of people who were in their sphere, in their atmosphere, that that was the case, that they were the kind of people that talked down to people, the kind of folks that thought they were better than other people and really just gross individuals all around. And if it wasn't for their money and their power, nobody would want to hang out with people like this. When Alpchu did not see Maxwell and Borgerson being affected in public, there were clear signs that their relationship was moving ahead. He said when he was there, her bedroom was so messy. I guess they were newly in love. It was like young people. There were clothes on the floor, pillows all over the place. I don't even want to imagine what. What was going on in that bedroom. These two disgusting individuals. Here's an idea. Clean your bedroom, all right? Clean up your room, put your clothes away, get the pillows off the floor, and stop being a slob. Alp Shoe called Borgerson frightening and recalled how one time he spoke sternly to him after one of Maxwell's dogs jumped up at a car valet worker outside the house and nearly bit him. This dude's fault, right? Oh, the dog almost bit somebody. So it's this dude's fault. I'm going to yell at him. Here's an idea. Borgerson. Instead of paying this kid 300 bucks a week, why don't you take your dogs to an obedience school and get them trained correctly, because you obviously have no time to hang out with them. Who the hell has a nanny for their dogs? He said scott was going to teach me to be the alpha male with a dog and showed me how to do it. He took on the role of alpha male. It was the worst experience of my life. He's a tall guy, firmest handshake you can imagine. No room for being nervous. Very military in his style. So you're like a big shot if you can get the dog in a corner and scare it or intimidate it. I don't. I don't really know what any of that means. His technique was to keep the dog in a corner and stand in front of the dog and be really firm and loud and, and make the dog sit. You had to be very, very firm. It's going to give the dog all kinds of jumpies. Dog's going to be one of them. Kind of dogs always, you know, worried it's in trouble and shit. It's not the way you should roll, man. Dogs should be part of the family. Sometimes Maxwell's attention would turn to Alp Shoe. Such as one morning when he got back from the gym in running tights, he said, she asked me where I'd been. So I told her the gym. She told me, you're already fit. So you know, Maxwell was a creeper, man, no doubt about it. And she was probably trying to creep on these dudes too. All the dudes look alike. Bunch of different Swedish dudes. What was she up to? What kind of game was she about to run? In late April 2015, Maxwell took took Alp Shoe to the premiere of the latest Marvel film, he recalled, which appears to have Age of Ultron. He said that that night she asked me to do. She asked me, do you have something nice to wear? So I dressed up in a suit and she said, I'm taking you to this stupid potty. Oh, how nice is that. Maxwell bringing a little arm candy on, on her arm, even though she's with Borgerson. We took an Uber to the after party to whatever Avengers movie had happened. It was a really high end party in a hotel that haven't, that hadn't opened yet. There were a lot of celebrities and I remember Jeremy Renner from the Avengers, though there were tables with other names on them. She asked me if I could get her a drink. Maybe she was too fancy to get her own drinks. She didn't stay long and left me there. I mean, first of all, who's inviting Ghislaine Maxwell to this shit? Everybody knows what she is and what she was and who she was associated with. But still, these Hollywood big shots, these gross sons of bitches, they're gonna still invite her. Just like she was still invited to Bezos little billionaires ball or whatever the fuck it was called. It felt like after that night the feeling changed. It was more she's being nice to me, taking me to this cool party. It was a moment Alpschu, now 31, said. He was one of several men, all young and Swedish, he noted, charged with the care of Captain Nemo, Maxwell's Vissula for a few months back in 2015. And lived in her basement at the time. So look, was Maxwell trying to creep with this dude? I don't know, maybe she looks like she was giving this dude the vibe, asking him, what do you, where are you coming from while he's wearing his tights and shit? Leave this dude alone. Alp Shoe said that while he had no idea of any of the crimes Maxwell, 60, was eventually sent to prison for. He alleges that Maxwell's secret husband, Scott Borgerson, was intimidating and should never reveal who his boss was. He sat me down and he told me, like, the women, the woman that you're working for, living with, she's a very famous woman so you can never say who she is and you can never bring people to the house and you have to be quiet all about all of this, alp Shu said. So right from the jump there was that air of secrecy and if you're this, this dude, you got to say to yourself, why are they being so secretive? I mean, at that point especially, I would have been looking this lady up and trying to find out who she is. I guess he didn't do that.

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And the question is, what was Ghislaine Maxwell up to? Honestly, I guess I fit the description because all the guy. Excuse me, we passed that. He also added that Maxwell told them she's never been to Sweden but would love to go. Oh, I wonder why. I wonder why she would love to go considering she was surrounded by a menagerie of young Swedish men using them as dog walkers. Something doesn't add up to me here, folks, with all of this. Now, I don't think she was, you know, running a trafficking ring or anything, but who the hell knows what her plans are or were? The best place for Ghislaine Maxwell, in my opinion, is exactly where she is. In jail. Maxwell is awaiting sentencing at a Brooklyn jail after being found guilty of sex trafficking minors for her involvement in helping Epstein lure underage girls before he sexually assaulted them. Yeah, she helped as well, according to some of those survivors. Let us not forget that she is now facing 65 years behind bars in a federal prison, prompting speculation she could now flip and discuss the actions of others within Epstein's circle in a bid to receive a lighter sentence. Well, we know she was tight with a lot of these people. The question is, is it going to work out for her? Is she going to give anyone up? Is she going to look for a deal? And furthermore, will the prosecution be willing to accept the deal? Because we know that the prosecution has spaghetti for a spine. If they really were serious, this would already be a RICO case and we wouldn't need her to flip. So let's see what happens, folks. I don't have too much confidence that she's gonna flip on anybody or that the government is going to offer her a deal worth her taking. So we'll definitely keep an eye on it. But one thing is for sure, Maxwell, Epstein and the Clintons, they were all a lot closer than Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, or their surrogates would like to let on. All right, folks, that's going to do it for this evening. I'll be back tomorrow morning with the morning update and we'll pick it up from there. If you'd like to contact me. You can do [e-mail] that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] you can also find me on Twitter obby Cap Ucci. The link that we discussed can be found in the description box. It is right we have a new report out from Chris Spargo over at OK Magazine. Make sure you give him a follow a like send him an email, whatever. He's done a great job on this story. He's done a very, very good job and he's provided a lot of context. And Chris Spargo has this new article out and it's talking about how the Clinton found a the Clinton Bill and Hillary Clinton. They funded Tara Mar Ghislaine Maxwell's her nonprofit. They were donors to the nonprofit. And not only that, it again, it wasn't before the allegations were known. It was after. People knew already what was going on. People understood that Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were rolling deep. It was like Dre and Snoop Dogg. I mean, are you kidding me right now? These people were tight and everybody knew it. But yet the Clintons were still in bed, quote unquote with Ghislaine Maxwell. The Clintons were still funding her, donating to her, still inviting her to events. Hell, she was even at Chelsea's wedding. Oh well, she was the plus one. I don't care. She was there. That's the problem. The fact that she was at Chelsea weddings. I mean, Chelsea Clinton's wedding should be enough to light an absolute bombshell off in this case. But it hasn't. And again, I wonder why. Why hasn't Bill Clinton been given the same exact treatment that everybody else in this case has been given? Seems like the the mainstream media has given him a pass. It seems like the legacy media just does not have the stones it takes to go after Bill Clinton. Now, I hope that it had to do with the election and they just didn't want to give any fodder to the other side. And now that that's over and done with, I really hope that the legacy media dives in and and uses their vast amount of resources to expose the relationship between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein. Because obviously up until this point, mum's the word. This should be plastered everywhere, this kind of stuff. But it's not. So it's important to recognize people like Chris Spargo for doing a good job and making sure that this information gets out there. And it's not like he's just Writing an article without any receipts. He has the court documentation once again on scribed here to prove it. So let's jump into this article from okay. Magazine and let's see what Chris Spargo has uncovered. Headline revealed at last, Bill and Hillary Clinton funded accused child molester Ghislaine Maxwell's charity despite connections to pedophile meaning Jeffrey Epstein. This article was authored by Chris Spargo. Ghislaine Maxwell received critical funding for the charity she launched in the in 2012 from the Clinton Foundation. Suggest newly unsealed documents. OK. Has obtained a protective order filed in August 2016 in which Maxwell and her attorney argued some aspects of her finances should be off limits, including how much money the Terramar Project might have got from Bill and Hillary Clinton as an example. Well, isn't that funny? Isn't that funny? Because according to Gerald Lefcourt, who was one of Jeffrey Epstein's attorneys, Jeffrey Epstein was one of the first donors to the Clinton Foundation. So the money machine keeps on churning, doesn't it? Money in, money out, turn and burn. It's all a shell game. These people are all involved with it. And every single one of these people that we discuss, in my opinion, is involved with financial crimes. That would make someone like Bernie Madoff blush. Why would the Clintons be funding Ghislaine Maxwell's Terramar project considering all of the allegations hanging over Ghislaine Maxwell's head? I'll tell you why. Because they don't care. They don't care about these survivors, they don't care about this case, and they certainly, certainly do not care that Ghislaine Maxwell has been alleged to not only be a key component of Jeffrey Epstein's criminal enterprise, but also somebody who took part in the abuse. They don't care. Point blank, period. The requests seek literally every piece of financial information about Ms. Maxwell for a two year period to organizations in which Ms. Maxwell may be involved, such as the Terramar Project or any other not for profit entities with which Maxwell is associated, including but not limited to funding received from the Clinton Global Initiative, the Clinton Foundation, AKA William J. Clinton Foundation, AKA the Bill, Hillary and Chelsea Clinton foundation, and the Clinton Foundation Climate Change Initiative, reads that filing. Oh, I'm sure that these donations were all on the up and up. I wonder if Ghislaine petitioned for the donation while she was at the lettuce wrap spot with Bill Clinton as his private guest. I wonder if that's where they finalized the deal. Did they give the old handshake on it? Boy, can you imagine if we had a legacy media that gave a damn in this country, can you imagine if the legacy media would pursue this with the, the, the zest and the vigor that they should? Can you imagine what would be uncovered? And not only Bill Clinton, people like Ehud Barak as well. These are big time players on the political scene. So I have to ask myself, why are they not having their spot blown up the same exact way somebody like Prince Andrew is? And for Bill Clinton, I think that the writing is on the wall. I think now that this election is over that Trump has been, been bumped out and Biden has taken office and they don't have to really worry about the political fallout per se during an election season. I would think that the legacy media might be a little more interested in Bill Clinton's relationship with Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and especially these financial ties because there's no denying them, right? This shit happened. These donations were made, this money changed hands. You can't spin that. Bill Clinton's team can't spin that. They can't try and run their propaganda narratives on it. Facts, receipts. So where there's smoke, there is usually fire. And if a true forensic accountant type of investigation took place into these transactions, I am, I am almost positive that some very interesting things would be brought to light. Even more crucial than funding was the credibility that the Clintons lent to the organization when in 2013 they partnered with Maxwell, announcing the news in a press release at the time. In 2013, the TerraMar project committed to launch the Sustainable Oceans alliance to mobilize the international community and the public at large on the importance of the oceans and the seas and to ensure that the 193 UN member states recognize and incorporate oceans in the sustainable development. Development goals to be adopted in 2015. Well, isn't that nice? The Clintons lent their credibility and use themselves as a vehicle for Ghislaine Maxwell to have more pull here in the the world of philanthropy, in the world of being an advocate for climate change and the oceans. What a weird ass situation. And it makes you really wonder what else were the Clintons involved with? With the Maxwell's and with Jeffrey Epstein. Oh, Bobby, it was just the wedding. Oh, Bobby, it was just, you know, they went to Prince Andrews. Oh, but too many coincidences in my opinion, for this to just be a relationship where they sort of knew each other. I mean, let's remember Alexander de Rossi, Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew, was hired by Hillary Clinton, State Department. That just happened. Or do you think Elaine might've made a phone call. You think Elaine might have asked for a favor? I'm pretty sure that stuff like that doesn't just happen in a vacuum. That is a job that is. There's a lot of desire for, for a position like that for people in the intelligence community, people who have degrees in near east policy, and there is a lot of competition. So out of all the people that could have been given that job, all of the people that could have applied for that job or did apply for that job, the only one that was qualified was Ghislaine, Maxwell's nephew. Huh. All right. Okay. Maxwell launched the TerraMar project in 2012, two years after attending the wedding of Chelsea Clinton. She attended the wedding as the guest of Ted Waite, her boyfriend at the time and the founder of Gateway Computers. Maxwell was also close with Bill and even closer to his longtime advisor, Doug Band, because of her time with Jeffrey Epstein. Now we know that Doug Band has left the reservation when it comes to the Clintons, and he went on the record talking about Bill and Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell and all of that stuff. So Doug Band is a very interesting character here and I'd like to hear more from him in regards to the Jeffrey Epstein Bill Clinton relationship. I think that would be a fascinating conversation to have. And Ted Waite, who was Ghislaine's boyfriend at the time, is just another one of these so called members of elite society who has his fingers in some garbage. Probably. Right? But as far as the Epstein stuff, besides his ties to Ghislaine Maxwell, there's really nothing there. Right. But they want to use it. Like Ted Waite was the. The reason why Maxwell was there. But I have my, my suspicions that it might have been the other way around even it might have been Ted Waite as the plus one and Ghislaine Maxwell as the real guest. Who knows though, right? I guess survivors had already accused Maxwell of recruiting and then pimping them out to Epstein long before she launched the foundation in 2008. A Priscilla Doe described in a lawsuit how Maxwell groomed her to operate as a sex slave who could respond to any of the demands made of her by Epstein. The survivor was only 14 or 15 at this time. She was recruited by Maxwell. So again, these are the sort of allegations that were hanging in the air. These are the sort of things that were being talked about. These were the sort of things in the media, in the news. And you mean to tell me that the ex President of the United States with Secret Service access still provided to him and guards provided to him had no idea. They knew. They didn't care. They figured they just thumbed their nose at everybody and that this, this was something of the past. Epstein done his time. Epstein was arrested already. This isn't ever going to come back to haunt us. Well, guess what? Enjoy the fallout because it's back Navigating

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I'll have to find his exact name, but he's somebody who is well thought of in the industry and according to them as well as the FBI, there's no way that picture was faked. So those people that are running that narrative, you know, that's some fantasist shit in my opinion. Epstein took me on a ferry boat on one of the trips to New York City and there he took the picture above. I was approximately 15 or 16 years old at the time, she wrote of the first of many photos she would later give to the FBI. In that picture, Roberts looks years younger than her age as she smiles for the camera while on an unchaperoned trip with Epstein and Maxwell over 1,000 miles away from home. I mean, yeah, that doesn't raise any alarm bells or ring any alarm bells that a 15 or 16 or 14 or 15 year old girl is out with Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein a thousand miles away from home? Nah, no alarm bells are ringing there. Just call me Uncle Jeff while you're at it. I mean, all this guy was missing was the van and a sign asking if you could help his puppy. I mean, help him find his puppy. That's how brazen this sick bastard was. And these people act like they have no idea, huh? Yeah, okay. Roberts revealed she was raped by Epstein and assaulted by Maxwell on that same trip. This had already been occurring for some time by then, having started in Palm beach after Maxwell recruited the teenager at Mar A Lago where she was working at the time. Over the next few weeks, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell trained me to do what they wanted, including sexual activities and the use of sexual toys, stated Roberts in previously unsealed documents. The training was in New York and Florida at Epstein's mansions. It was basically every day and was like going to school. I also had to have sex with Epstein many times. She noted. Roberts said that she was trained to be everything a man wanted me to be. The photos that were used by Roberts made it clear that she was with Epstein and Maxwell in Paris and cans, London, New Mexico and the Virgin Islands. So again, the Clintons have a lot to answer for, folks, a lot of explaining to do. And I think that it would be a good idea for the legacy media to start asking those questions and going down that road. Is there not enough evidence, is there not enough there there for them yet? How many times does Clinton have to be proven to be lying about his relationship with Epstein and the extent of it and how deep the ties go? I hope that moving forward in 2021 that Bill Clinton is treated in the same manner that Prince Andrew is being treated? Because folks, it's about time that Bill Clinton, the Clinton Foundation, Hillary Clinton and the rest of them had a meeting with the Karma Train called Justice. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I protonmail.com you can also find me on Twitter Boby Capucci. All of the links for this episode can be found in the description box. Tomorrow marks day one of week two of the Ghislaine Maxwell trial. But before we even begin to start talking about what next week has in store for us, we're going to jump into an article from the Daily Mail talking about Jeffrey Epstein's 17 trips to Bill Clinton's White House. Now, how Bill Clinton has been able to avoid the level of scrutiny some of the other folks have come under in the Epstein case is beyond me because his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein is well documented for years. We're talking to the tune of a lot of money, over $5 million donated by Jeffrey Epstein to the Clinton Global Initiative, according to Gerald Lefkowitz. And Gerald Lefkowitz, for those of you who aren't hip, was one of his lawyers during the first prosecution. So it's well established that Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton were boys. It's not even a question. And for people who try to deflect, I just shake my head. There are no good guys in this whole ordeal and none of these people should be defended by anyone. Honestly, Bill Clinton, Donald Trump, any of these clown fish, these dudes are out there running around with people like Jeffrey Epstein, Gerald Murray, Peter Nygard, oh, you name it. And I haven't even gotten into all of the arms dealers and whatnot they're running around with. But Bill Clinton had played a major role in Jeffrey Epstein's rise here as far as giving him credibility, as far as refurbishing his image. You know what it does for somebody to be caught strolling around with an ex president as far as their image goes in the so called high society of places like New York, there's a reason Jeffrey Epstein was only palling around with dudes like this. He collected people like this. There's a reason he was hanging out with Ehud Barack. Several reasons, but you get the gist of what I'm saying here. Jeffrey Epstein was only hanging out with power players, only hanging out with people who could advance his agenda one way or the other. And I know a lot of people don't like to hear it, oh, my tribe is involved or someone from my tribe is involved. But breaking news, both tribes all the way to the top are involved. Let's be very clear. George Bush and his Justice Department were the ones who okayed the sweetheart deal for Epstein. So there's no one side's better than the other here. And I see people coming out of the woodwork now trying to obfuscate, trying to conflate issues and trying to make this into some sort of political cudgel to bash their opponents over the head with. And that is absolutely ridiculous, folks. Don't fall for it. Remember, all of these people could have stepped up to the plate. All of these people could have helped out. All of these people could have ratted on Jeffrey Epstein. Did any of them do it? Nope. Instead, Epstein was hanging out at the White House cavorting with Bill Clinton and Lord knows who else. I'm guessing Bill Richardson. We all know the relationship with Epstein and Bill Richardson as well. So, look, this is a circle of scumbaggery folks, all right? A circle of scumbaggery. And Bill Clinton most certainly played a part. Now, now, I'm not going to sit here and tell you, like some other people might, that he was abusing girls on this island or was abusing Epstein survivors. I haven't heard anything like that from the survivors. Now, that doesn't mean that there aren't people out there that have some stories to tell. All I can say is that the format we use here on the podcast, we follow the stories that come out in the news, right? And so far, nobody has come forward and said that Bill Clinton was involved in the abuse on the island. That said, he most certainly enabled Jeffrey Epstein. And him and Hillary had a very close relationship with Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell for years. Even after Epstein's prosecution, Ghislaine Maxwell was still friends with Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton. So much so, in fact, that Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew, Alexander de Rossi, was given a job at the State Department while Hillary Clinton was running the show. I know. It's just another coincidence, right? Doesn't mean anything. Come on, man. The ties that bind. And when you want to talk about ties that bind, there certainly are. When we're talking about the Clintons, we're certainly talking about that.

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So let's take a look at this article from thedailymail.com and let's see what author Daniel Bates has come up with. Headline Exclusive Jeffrey Epstein's Access to the Clinton White House Laid Bare Visitor Logs reveal Pedophile visited the Former president at least 17 times, including a dozen in 1994 and twice in one day on three separate occasions. So now remember, 1994 to 2004 is the time frame where these alleged crimes by Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein were taking place. So while these alleged crimes were happening, he's abusing girls like Jane, Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. He's also going to the White House to party it up with good old Billy boy Clinton. Talk about disgusting. Jeffrey Epstein's access to the Clinton White House has been laid bare by visitor logs exclusively obtained by DailyMail.com which reveal the pedophile visited at least 17 times during the former President's first few years in office. Yeah, and you wonder why Bill Clinton and his foundation received such a large sum of money from Jeffrey Epstein. You would think that this would be everywhere and the legacy media would be all over it, but silence. Epstein, who died in 2019, visited Bill Clinton at the Executive Mansion over the course of three years, with the first invitation coming just a month after his inauguration in January of 1993. So it wasn't like he became president and they just became boys. There was obviously a relationship here previously. You don't just get invited to the White House a month after inauguration if you're not friends with the guy who's going to be sitting in the office. So again, just like with Trump, the relationship between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein runs a long time. And a lot of the relationship between these folks is under the covers still. What was going on when they were running around together in the early 90s, the 80s? You're telling me everybody was at their on their best behavior, huh? Okay, the log showed the late financier showed up on 14 separate days, even making two visits in a single day on three different occasions. Epstein was invited by some of Clinton's most senior advisors and and dates, including one who later Served as Treasury Secretary, according to records. The document reveal. The documents reveal the vast majority of Epstein's visits stated that he was going to the West Wing, meaning there was a strong likelihood he was meeting Clinton. And right here in the picture in the article, make sure you click on the link to go check it out. There's a picture of Bill Clinton with a nice beaming smile on his face, shaking the hand of Jeffrey Epstein with Glenn Maxwell in the background wearing like, remember in like the 80s, the kung fu outfits? That's exactly what it looks like. She's wearing like one of those like red topped kung fu outfits with a weird ass turtleneck. These people are odd. Like their whole style was odd. Everything about them just was a turn off to me. But you see, you're standing here in this dumbass outfit looking like one of the bad guys from the video game Kung Fu. And then there's all of these other functionaries standing in the background laughing it up, yucking it up. And when you hear about Jeffrey, I mean, Bill Clinton's aides, that brought Jeffrey Epstein around, that shouldn't shock anybody either. Look at the people that Bill Clinton surrounded himself with. You're gonna sit here and tell me that Bill Richardson's a good guy, a solid pillar of the community. Come on, stop it. His whole entire cabinet was filled with smarmy sons of bitches. So it shouldn't shock anybody that a worm like Jeffrey Epstein would show up at the White House and it's an embarrassment. Honestly. I mean, are you guys for real right now? This dude was at the White House 17 times. This isn't more of a story. And furthermore, we have to have a tabloid from the United Kingdom come up with this. Well, New York Post. Too busy. Excuse me? The Washington Post, Too busy. New York Times. What do you guys got going on? Can't be bothered to dig a little deeper here. Let's be very, very clear. The relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton should be put on blast. Unfortunately, those in the press of the United States, like Bill Clinton's boy George Stephanopoulos, who also hung out with Epstein, at least on one occasion, have no desire to do it. The disclosure puts renewed scrutiny on Clinton's friendship with Epstein, who was known to have flown the former President on his private jet, known as the Lolita Express, dozens of times after he left office. When Epstein hanged himself in jail after his arrest in 2019, Clinton claimed that he knew nothing about the terrible, terrible crimes his friend carried out. Well, again, look, I'm not gonna sit here and tell you I know one way or the other what Bill Clinton knew or what he didn't know, because that would make me a liar. And I don't know what he knew, I don't know what he saw and I don't know what he did. But I will tell you this, there is no scenario that you can put before me where a guy like Jeffrey Epstein should be palling around at the White House with the President of the United States. A sitting President, really. And it's amazing that these this information is just coming out. Nobody's going to call out Bill Clinton's spokesperson who came out and told us all that this was all bs, that Bill Clinton had never been on the plane, the whole nine. Nobody's going to call that guy out. I forget his name right now, but nobody's going to call out the Clinton

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It's gross that it's left to people like us to try and hold an ex president accountable. The media should be digging into this story like it's nobody's business. And while Epstein's crimes did not become public knowledge until his arrest in 2006, the visits to the White House would have occurred during the same time frame that his alleged madam Co conspirator, alleged scumbag, you know, fellow child abuser, bipedal serpent Ghislaine Maxwell is accused of recruiting underage girls for him. So let's also be very clear that that's not the truth either. Remember, Jeffrey Epstein was outed by Maria Farmer in 95. There were rumors about this dude and his behavior for years. Now all of a sudden, oh, nobody had any idea. That's what they'll say. That's going to be their excuse. But we all know the score. Maxwell, 59, is accused of being Epstein's procureur between 1994 and. And 2004, a period of time during which the pedophile appeared to have been gaining the trust of one of the most powerful men in the nation. And it's true. Look, these are just the facts, right? Bill Clinton, an absolute lowlife, everybody knows that was palling around with Jeffrey Epstein. And Jeffrey Epstein and him were so close that. That Epstein was invited to the White House, okay? Not Bill Clinton's home in New York, not the little Westchester mansion they have. None of that. But to the White House that you and I pay for 17 times. I think this should be more of a story. It won't be, though. It'll be swept under the rug. And you know, people, if you bring it up, you'll be accused of. Oh, you're going after Clinton. Oh, yeah, absolutely I am. How about that? No bones about it. The dudes are reprehensible scumbag just like the rest of them and the fact that he's been able to duck and dodge for the most part. All of this fallout is just unbelievable to me, considering the vast ties between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein and Glenn Maxwell. And it's indisputable fact, okay? This isn't just hearsay. This isn't just. This is indisputable fact. Clinton's historic victory over George H.W. bush in 1992 election paved the way for him to serve two terms in the White House and become one of the most successful Democrats in U.S. history. Uh, what? Meanwhile, Epstein was still establishing himself as a financial manager and had recently left Towers Financial, a debt collection agency which would collapse in 1993 due to a $450 million Ponzi scheme, the largest in the US at the time. But somehow Epstein slid right through that, didn't he? Somehow, Epstein came out unscathed. Steve Hoffenberg, on the other hand, went to jail for 20 years. How is that even possible? Unless, of course, Jeffrey Epstein was working for the feds. Epstein met Maxwell in the early 1990s, and the two briefly dated, allegedly before she eventually became the manager of his Palm beach mansion. And. And as prosecutors allege, top recruiter of minors. Over the next decade, he would acquire the trappings of a billionaire playboy. His private island in The Caribbean, a $75 million mansion in New York, which was the largest private residence in the city at the time, and his ranch in New Mexico. He would also acquire the friendship of one William Jefferson Clinton. Reports have claimed that Clinton was self. Was a self made man and may have been drawn to Epstein because he was cut from a similar cloth. As Epstein reportedly told his friends, I invest in people, be it in politics or science, it's what I do. And what he means by that is he invests in people so that he can use them people and be able to get whatever he needs from them. Right? He wasn't in the business of just having friendships. This dude was always looking to make a move, always looking to compile a dossier. 1993. Epstein's first visits. The visitor logs were obtained by DailyMail.com from the Clinton Presidential Library under a series of Freedom of Information act requests. They show that Epstein's first visit to the Clinton White House was. Was on February 25, 1993. And the person who issued the invitation is listed as Reuben. The location of the visit is listed as WW or West Wing. The most prominent Reuben in the White House at the time was Robert Rubin, who took up his position as director of the National Economic Council when Clinton took office. See how this all works? And this is the way to. Not just Epstein slithers his way into these rooms, gets into these audiences, but all of these scumbag power brokers, they get a guy like Robert Rubin and that becomes their pivot man, right? That's. They're in. They work that dude, and before you know it, Robert Rubin's going to Bill Clinton's office and gushing about how great this Jeffrey Epstein guy Is meanwhile, Jeffrey Epstein, an absolute predator, active at this time. So much so that his cohort, Ghislaine Maxwell, is facing charges right now as we speak in a courtroom. But yet these two shown prominently here at the White House. And it's not more of a story, huh? Rubin was so favored by Clinton that he was appointed treasurer, a Treasury secretary, in January of 1995. Reuben would go on to serve as the chair of the Council of Foreign Relations, an international affairs think tank, between 2007 and 2017. Now, again, these groups are all connected folks. They're all tied together. They all share membership on boards, all of that jazz. But the CFR is uniquely scummy in my opinion. They had a huge hand in the war in Iraq. They've had a huge hand in a lot of these different adventurism policies that the United States undertakes. And I'm not a fan of any of it. And the people who populate the cfr, even less of a fan. Epstein was a member of the CFR between 1995 until 2009 and donated $350,000 to the organization, money which it later gave to an organization which fights human trafficking. That makes it all right. You know, you get the money and then you donate it. So that makes you a good person. Meanwhile, again, don't be fooled. Everybody knew what Epstein was up to. All of these guys, they might not have known the details, right? They might not have known all of the small, little nuanced details, but everybody knew. They were all laughing about it, yucking it up. How was your air quote massage last night? And now all of a sudden it's, oh, we didn't know anything. Now remember, these are the smartest, richest, most powerful people in the world. But they had no idea what Jeffrey Epstein was up to. That's what they would have you believe. The log show that Epstein was admitted for the White house visit at 9:19am that day, when Clinton had plans to meet with Rubin at 1:45, according to the President. The President's daily schedule. It's not clear if Epstein attended the meeting. When DailyMail.com called Rubin's home, his wife said to call his office before hanging up. Imagine. Oh, yeah, hang up. Who cares? Don't dare call my house, you plebe. You can't get any information from us. They'll circle the wagons here. We won't get any information out of this. One thing I will say about Clinton's core group, they're very good at circling the wagons, very good at that, and very good at Killing any stories that might come out. These are devious ass people we're dealing with here, folks. The. The cabal. Yeah. Not the greatest people in the world. A spokeswoman for Rubin said. To the best of Mr. Rubin's recollection, he never met or spoke with Mr. Epstein. To the best of his recollection, huh. Gives himself an out there. Epstein's next Visit was on September 29 to attend a reception organized by the White House Historical association after he donated 10 grand to help renovate the building. Again, all about money, right? Bill Clinton and his boys couldn't get ten grand from anyone else. They had to get it from Jeffrey Epstein. And I know what you're saying, oh, well, nobody knew at this point. That's BS Though. I don't believe that they can use that as their excuse. Right. But when you look at all of the evidence that we have seen throughout the years, everybody knew what they were up to. It was one of the earliest instances of Epstein using philanthropy to gain access to powerful men, a tactic he would deploy extensively later after his 2006 conviction for having sex with underage girls. Photos from the event show Epstein and Clinton shaking hands, with both men smiling broadly. In the background, Maxwell, who attended with Epstein, can be seen looking intently at Clinton. Another photo shows Clinton talking to Maxwell and Epstein together as guests mingle around them. White House Social Secretary Anne Stock, who was listed in Epstein's little black book, was the reception's point of contact. But she knows. She doesn't know anything, right? Ann Stock has no idea what happened. She has no idea idea how Epstein would have gotten into that White House. And while I have no evidence of this, I wonder how these gatekeepers to these powerful men and women, I wonder how much they're benefiting from opening those gates to people like Jeffrey Epstein. Stock would have been a useful ally for Epstein. And when she left the role in August 1997, the former president said it was a personal loss for him. The person who approved the visit for Maxwell was Rathbone, which appears to be Linda Rathbone, who was special assistant to the Chief of Staff at the time. Stock did not return messages asking for comment, and neither did Rathbone. See, here's the thing. They never thought this stuff would come out. They never thought that this stuff would come back out and we'd be talking about it. They figured that their buddies in the legacy media, like George Stephanopoulos and the rest of them, would keep it under wraps. But now it's all blowing up in their face. People are interested all over the board, all across the political spectrum. And I don't think anybody as far as people following this case or interested in this case is interested in Bill Clinton being spared or saved here. None of these people, look, let me be very clear. All of these people who were in roles of power, who were in these positions where they, they exert extreme influence and if they were involved with Jeffrey Epstein, I don't care who they were, they failed us and more importantly, they abused and helped the abuse of literally hundreds of young girls and women. Epstein's third visit to the White House on December 17, and the admitting authority was Mortman, which appears to be Lisa Mortman, staff assistant to the Director of Media affairs at the time. Epstein entered the White House at 9:27am and Clinton's presidential schedule for that day shows that 10:10am he and Hillary Clinton attended the announcement of a $500 million grant to improve education from Walter Anberg, the late publishing billionaire. The grant was the largest of its kind at the time and Clinton praised it in front of a crowd of people saying it couldn't have come at a better time. While it's not clear if Epstein attended the event, it is exactly the kind of nexus, philanthropy and power that he used to further his own deeds. Other attendees included Senator Ted Kennedy, Richard Riley, who was the education secretary at the time, and education reformer Ted Sizer. So a who's who, right? 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Epstein's fourth visit to the Clinton White House on December 21, and he was signed in by Kelly. No other details are given, but intriguingly, Clinton's mother was called Virginia Clinton Kelly, and she was still alive at the time. The following month, she died of cancer. The visitor log showed that Epstein's destination was the West Wing. And and he arrived at 12:16pm the morning Clinton attended a memorial at Arlington National Cemetery for the victims of pan AM Flight 103 and returned to the White House by 11:15pm he would remain in the Oval Office until 2pm for lunch, phone and office time, leaving a large window in which he could have met Epstein. And obviously that's exactly what happened, right? Epstein wasn't going there for his health. He wasn't going there to, you know, take a walk around and take a look at the Lincoln bedroom. He was there because he was doing business. A dozen visits in 1994. The vast bulk of Epstein's visits, 12 in total, came during 1994. The first was on March 24 and approved by Middleton, which was Mark Middleton, who at the time was Special Assistant to the President. He was also assistant to the Chief of Staff, Thomas F. Mack McLarty. Middleton, who left the White House in February 1995, was accused of setting himself up as an international dealmaker. Exactly the kind of person that would appeal to Epstein. Look, Clinton had so many people around him that were like this. They were deal brokers, they were information brokers. They were people who were looking to advance their own lives and careers on the back of Clinton's presidential victory. And there is a ton of those people scattered throughout Bill Clinton's presidential term. And you see it when these stories come out. There were. Look, I don't want to seem like I'm just saying, oh, well, the Clinton administrator, all of the administrations, just look at all the bankers that they all bring in with them right off the bat. Look at all the scuzz bags right off of the. Off the bat when they're putting together their cabinets. But Bill Clinton was surrounded by a whole bunch of grifters. In 1996, an investigation by the White House found that Middleton had abused his access to impress business clients and was barred from the Executive Mansion without senior approval. So after he introduced Epstein, that happened to him. Okay? Middleton, of course, denied the claims. The visitor logs show that on March 24, 1994, Epstein arrived at 3pm and by that time, Clinton had already left for the day on a visit to Pope Air Force Base in Fort Bragg, North Carolina, later followed by a private event in Dallas, Texas. The other name that features prominent on Epstein's 1994 visits is Ewing, which was Karen Ewing, who worked in the Chief of Staff's office. Now, these people that we're talking about, these are all of the unnamed bureaucrats that I'm always whinging about, how these people are unelected. They're appointed to these positions, but they wield great power and influence over the rest of us. Now, we might not see it as such, but it's true. If these are the key, the. The gatekeepers and the key holders, to get to the most powerful people in the world, you got to make sure that those people are of good character, of high standing character, because if not, they're going to use that position to enrich themselves. And unfortunately, we've seen it happen time and time again. It doesn't matter if it's an L or an R. It's the same story, folks. These people come into power with not very much money, and somehow they leave as multimillionaires and billionaires. It was never the way it was supposed to be. A source said that she was involved in sending names of visitors to be cleared by the Secret Service and that Epstein was there to see Middleton, not her. The log show that some of Middleton's meetings with Epstein happened in room 176, which was in the Old Executive Office Building, not the White House. The source said that Middleton asked for a meeting, a meeting room next to the White House mess, which was in the West Wing, so he could impress his guests with the proximity to the Oval Office. And why would you want to do that? Why would Middleton be so interested in impressing his guests? Unless, of course, he thinks he's going to benefit from it. Do you think he was interested in impressing his guests so you and I could benefit? Zero chance. The source said Mark was trying to make himself look bigger than he was. He was trying to make himself out like he had more power than he really did in the White House. Mark knew that Epstein was managing the money of Les Wexner, referring to the billionaire founder of L Brands and Victoria's secret. The year 1994. There were midterm elections. Clinton needed money, and Mark that Mark thought he could get some of Wexner's money. And again, Wexner's name brought up with Clinton. I'm wondering when the legacy media is going to Catch on here. I'm wondering when the legacy media is going to do a real deep dive into Les Wexner. Mark wanted to set himself up as the guy who could bring in those kinds of big donors, the sources said. The source remembered Epstein as being very charming, but that was normal for people wanting to get access to the President. The source said he didn't dress very smartly and wore jeans and a button down white shirt. Yeah, there's no doubt about it. He used to wear them mom jeans all the time when he wore jeans. Absolutely goofy looking dude. The new balance, right? The whole weirdo look. One time he got to chatting with me and claimed he had been a Navy seal. I just read a book on the seal, so I knew how to check if he was telling the truth and asked him, what was your class number? A real SEAL could have answered that in a second. But Epstein, he couldn't. I look, I looked at, I looked at him and smiled and his face said, you got me. I just smiled back and we moved on. Now there's a picture out there of Epstein dressed as a Navy SEAL for one of the events as well. So not only did this guy like to steal the dreams and hopes of these young girls, he was also into stealing valor. What a hell of a guy, huh? Certainly the kind of guy you want hanging out at the White House. According to a source, among the people that Epstein would meet on his trips to the White House was George Mitchell, the former Senator who at the time was Senate Majority Leader. Now let's be very clear, he is in a different rung. George Mitchell. He has been credibly accused of partaking in the abuse by Virginia Roberts. And how Virginia Roberts is not as a witness at this trial is beyond me. We're going to get to that later this week. But man, what a travesty. Mitchell later served as the US Special Envoy for Middle east peace under President Obama and was among the powerful men. Epstein survivor not victim Survivor Daily Mail. Virginia Roberts claimed she was loaned out to for sex by the pedophile. In a deposition, Mitchell has always denied any wrongdoing. Epstein's next Visit was on April 20, 1994 and he signed in at 3pm Clinton was in the Oval Office until 3:15pm that day when he began a series of briefings which with high level staff. The following day, April 21, Epstein made two visits to the White House on the same day. Both signed in by Ewing at 5pm and 7pm now you would think that there would be a push by our legacy media Here to talk to all of these people who were the gatekeepers. Now, obviously you're going to get a canned answer from them, but still should get them on record. No, in both cases, his destination was the West Wing. Clinton's daily schedule shows him either in the Oval Office for briefings or attending a reception for the Advisory Committee on Human Radiation Experiments. Sounds like a lot of fun. Human radiation experiments. Yeah, I think I'll pass on that one. At 7:00pm Clinton arrived at Blair House for a reception for the Prime Minister of Greece and returned to the White House by 8pm meaning he could still have met Epstein. Of course he did. Look, Epstein wasn't there for no reason, okay? Big money guys like this don't just show up and not get seen to. The source said that days like this were the likeliest that Clinton and Epstein met. The source said Mark probably looked at the President's daily schedule and said, come back later and we'll try and get you in there to see him. Even if it was just for a few minutes, you're still meeting the President. And that's weird to me, too. I don't care. I wouldn't even want to meet any of these presidents. No, thanks. I got better things to do. Oh, yeah? What are you doing? I don't know. Some reality TV's on. That's how much I care about these presidents. I do not idolize them. I do not look up to them. I do not respect them. I'm sorry, but that is just the way I feel after years and years and years. I've been on this planet now for almost 42 years and I've been lied to by every single administration that's come down the pipe. Every single one of them. Four days later, on April 25, Epstein was back at the White House again, once more destined for the west wing. Epstein's 5:15pm arrival came during a time when Clinton had some free time in his schedule. Course he did. And I know that when they hung out, they were just talking about the basics, right? Oh, let's talk about some golf. The former President attended an event to announce the grim irony the first National Crime Victims Rights Week and finished mid afternoon. Imagine. Look at that.

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He goes and signs the first National Crime Victims Rights Week or goes to announce it and then he's hanging out with Epstein. Gross. All of it's gross after that. The schedule says that he had downtime for the remainder of the day, meaning he had plenty of time to see his friend Jeffrey Epstein. Epstein returned to the west wing twice in one day on May 13 in visits signed off on by Middleton and Ewing. His first Visit was at 12pm the second was at 4pm Both bound for the West Wing. So is there anyone out there that can give me a logical reason for what he was doing? If he wasn't going to meet up with Clinton, if he wasn't going to try and garner some more favor, then what was he doing at the White House there for another tour? You need to go 17 times to get the full tour for the day shows him having lunch, phone and office time from 11:05 to 1:05pm in the Oval Office that day, and phone and office time in the Oval Office, both periods that coincide with Epstein visiting. June 7th was Epstein's next trip to the West Wing. Clinton was away at the time on an official visit to France. However, Clinton was in the White House on July 28 when Epstein would return for two visits in a single day. Two visits in a single day, huh? Imagine. What could you possibly need from the White House that you're there two times in a day? Most people can't even get in for five minutes. But Jeffrey Epstein and his boys, they sure do have the keys to the car, don't they? Epstein's 2pm visit to the West Wing coincided with Clinton's lunch and office time in the oval office. Epstein's 6:30pm visit coincided with Clinton attending a congressional meeting and then a reception in the Blue Room followed by a dinner in the State Room organized by Ann Stock. It is unclear if Epstein attended. You would think that some of the people that were there would come forward and say yeah, he attended. But no, their loyalty to their buddy Clinton is much more important. Gross. All of them are gross. And I have no use for the lot of them, folks. Epstein had two final visits in 1994, the first of which was on September 26th and was signed off on by Middleton. By Middleton. Clinton was in New York at the time, attending the UN General Assembly. Epstein's next visit was on October 27, and he was signed in by Stock. Clinton was out of the country at the time, on an official visit to the Middle East. On that day, he was in Jordan. So what Epstein was doing is he's building his relationships at the White House while Clinton's gone. He's feeding those relationships, mending them, kneading them, making sure that they're good to go, so that his access to the President of the United States is unimpeded. The source believe that Maxwell attended the White House with Epstein during the summer of 1994 for one visit, though her name does not appear in the visitor logs. Of course it doesn't. Middleton did not return phone calls for comment. Ewing declined to comment. How is that even possible? How are they even able to decline to comment? You had a public office. You were working for the United States of America. We were paying her, but she declines to comment. A friendship flourishes. Epstein visited Clinton just once in 1995, on January 28th, and was again signed in by Middleton with the time of entry of 2:45pm that day. Clinton had downtime from 1:45pm for the rest of the day, leaving him plenty of time to see his buddy Epstein. It would be Epstein's final visit to the White House. But then the connection with the President had been made, right? He didn't need to go back at that point. He already wormed his way in. He already got himself locked in. And why? Why does he have to come back? The two men began to socialize outside of the White House. And two months later, on March 30, Epstein paid up to $100,000 to attend a Democrat fundraiser in Palm beach, where Clinton was present. Also attending was Miami Vice star Don Johnson, Deandra Douglas, then the wife of actor Michael Douglas, singer Jimmy Buffett, and billionaire investor Ron Perlman. Soon, the friendship between Epstein and Clinton was close enough that mutual friends were bringing the financier pedophile up in conversation. You guys see how deep this connection is here, this friendship? Don't you think that this is an issue that should be discussed? Considering Bill Clinton and Hillary still want to have their fingerprints all over American politics, you would think that this would be an issue that would be blown to the F up. British socialite Lynn Forrester, who served on Clinton's National Information Infrastructure Advisory Committee and on his Secretary of Energy Advisory Board, wrote a letter to the former president April 27, 1995. Referring to Epstein, Forrester, who some believe introduced the two men, wrote, Dear Mr. President, it was a pleasure to see you. Recently at Senator Kennedy's house, there was too much to discuss and too little time. Using my 15 seconds of access to discuss Jeffrey Epstein and currency stabilization, I neglected to talk to you about the topic near and dear to my heart, namely affirmative action and the future. These people, that's what they act like, they care about things like affirmative action or you and I having food on our table. But they don't care about that. We're nothing to them. We're just chattel pieces to be moved around on a board. In 2000, Forrester would sell her townhouse in Manhattan for 4.95 million to an anonymous corporation with the same address as Epstein's office on Madison Avenue. The price was eight and a half million less than its market value. Maxwell moved in soon after and remained there until 2016 when she sold it for $16 million. So again, so you get it for eight and a half million less than its market value. How does, how does that even work? Just show up and you're like, oh yeah, yeah, you know what? Chop off eight and a half million. No big deal. Who needs that? All of these people were connected. And that's why I've said from the jump it's a joke that this is an Aurico case. This should have been a RICO case from day one. Clinton's post presidency flight logs from Epstein's planes show that after leaving office, Clinton flew at least 26 times on the pedophile's jet known as the Lolita Express and as many as 10 times with no Secret Service detail. Now why would you shake your Secret Service detail as next president? You have Secret Service protection. Why would you shake that? To go hang out with bitch ass Jeffrey Epstein. The trips included a multi stop tour of Asia in November 2003 to destinations including Russia, Oslo, Hong Kong, Shanghai and Beijing. The log show, in 2002, Clinton took a trip to Africa aboard Epstein's plane with disgraced actor Kevin Spacey and the comedian Chris Tucker. Photos previously published by the DailyMail.com showed Clinton being given a massage on the trip by Shantae Davies. And now Shantae, Shantae. Shantae Davies is also an Epstein survivor. So that's a great look huh? Bill Clinton, ex President, getting a massage in some airport by one of Epstein's trafficked girls. This isn't a bigger deal. This shouldn't be blown up all over the place. And why is it that the Daily Mail has to report this? Where's cnn? Where's msnbc? Where's Fox? Where's any of these places reporting all of this?

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Davies was an Epstein survivor who worked as a flight attendant and and was repeatedly raped by the pedophile. Speaking to New York magazine in 2002, Clinton said, Jeffrey is both a highly successful financier and a committed philanthropist with a keen sense of global markets and an in depth knowledge of 21st century science. I especially appreciate his insights and generosity during the recent trip to Africa to work on the democratization, empowering the poor and and citizens service and combating HIV aids. Man, talk about a glowing, glowing commentary by Bill Clinton. But they weren't close or anything. They weren't friendly. Epstein donated more than $94,000 over the years to candidates from the Democratic Party, an apparent attempt to buy influence. In addition, Epstein's lawyers have claimed that he helped Clinton devise the Clinton Global Initiative, his phil. His philanthropy organization which is the focus of his post presidency. And that's what I discussed when we first started this discussion this morning. Lefkowitz has already come out and said that Clinton was the one who helped him devise the Clinton Global Initiative. And again, just into the wind. We're not going to talk about it. Clinton was also photographed hugging Epstein's housekeepers on a trip to his mansion in New York. Multiple reports have claimed Clinton visited Epstein's island in the Caribbean, a claim which the ex president's former close advisor, bagman Doug Band, has said is true. Virginia Roberts, the Epstein survivor, said in a 2011 deposition that Clinton visited Little St. James and arrived with two young girls from New York. So that's Virginia Roberts saying it, folks, not me. This is what she saw, this is what she says happened. And we don't think that's a big deal. It's not something that needs to be put on blast. This shouldn't be on the 24 hour news cycle. Robert said, I remember asking Jeffrey, what's Bill Clinton doing here? And he laughed it off and said, well, he owes me a favor. He never told me what favors they were. I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious or if it was just a joke. He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets. Clinton spokesmen have always strongly denied the allegation. Yeah, they denied all of it. Nobody's calling them out. Where's somebody hanging out in front of Bill Clinton's house to try and get some answers from him? Speaking to Vanity Fair, Band has claimed that Chelsea Clinton was so close with Maxwell because she had access to yachts and nice homes and Chelsea needed that. Indeed, Maxwell was invited to Chelsea's wedding in 2010 in Rhineback, New York, and a photo of the event shows her craning her neck down the aisle at the bride. In the wake of Epstein's suicide, allegedly in 2019, Clinton issued a statement amid outrage at his friendship with the sex offender. Oh, outrage, please. You mean a passing, a passing burp in the night? Outrage would be talking about it every day. Outrage would be hanging out in front of his house and talking to him about it every time he came out. That's outrage. Clinton's spokesman said at the time he knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to in Florida some years ago or those with which he has been recently charged in New York, in a statement said 2002 and 2003, President Clinton took a total of four trips on Epstein's airplane. One to Europe, one to Asia, and two to Africa, which included stops in connection with the. With the work of the Clinton Foundation. A spokesman for Clinton did not return requests for comment when contacted by the Daily Mail. Yeah, don't expect them to have any comments or return any comments because that's not how they roll the Clinton organization. They don't feel like they have to answer any questions for anybody. So there you have it. Folks. All right, the relationship between Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton runs deep and it went for a long, long time. And the same goes for Ghislaine Maxwell. Now the question is going to become is the legacy media in America going to be willing to call Bill Clinton out on his bs? Because up till now they've had a half hearted attempt and it's not the whole legacy media doing it. But he needs to be called out for his relationship with Epstein and there needs to be some answers. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c [e-mail] you can also find me on Twitter at B O B B Y CAP ucci. The link that we discussed can be found in the description box all right

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