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Bobby Capucci
What's up, everyone? And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles. One of the things I've said from the very beginning, pretty much here on the podcast, is that as these people get brought to justice and more of them are brought to face the music, the more girls and survivors who live through the abuse of Maxwell and Epstein are going to come forward. And we're starting to see that as we speak. One of the most prominent lawyers in the whole entire ordeal, Bradley Edwards, is talking about how even more girls are coming forward now and how the case and the scope of the case is still growing. It just shows you the absolute wake of misery and sorrow that was left in the path of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell for years. And it's just not the, the women and the girls that we have heard of that have been out at the forefront of this. There are a lot of unnamed girls, a lot of unnamed women. And I've talked about it before how you know, girls from these war torn countries, Eastern Europe, the Balkans, insert country here, who is going through financial difficulties or who was going through a situation that might have seen the country in some sort of conflict. It's much easier to traffic people in situations such as that, right? People lose passports. You know, it's a whole litany of things takes place when people are being taken, displaced from a war. So we know that there was a huge market for Jean Luc Brunel in Eastern Europe, in the Balkans, some of these other countries, and we know that he was recruiting and grooming girls from these countries as well. Now we've only heard from a handful of women and girls who were abused by Epstein. So the analogy I used was it's like a dam that gets a couple of cracks in it. After it gets a couple of cracks. Well, the whole entire integrity of the structure is, you know, at risk. And then eventually the whole entire thing comes tumbling down. And I think that's what we're seeing in real time here. Maybe not the whole thing come tumbling down as far as the co conspirators who were involved in, in, as involved in the actual abuse. But I think you're going to see a lot of women and girls who might not have come forward previously come forward now that they see that. All right, well, maybe things are moving in the right direction. Maybe the gears of justice are turning in the right direction with Ghislaine Maxwell being arrested. And I would think that we, we're going to see even more of it. We saw it in the wake of Epstein when the girls and the. They felt more secure, right? These, these women who were abused as children or as young ladies, they felt a lot more secure when Epstein was dead to come forward and talk about what they experienced. They felt like there was less of a chance that he would be able to ruin. Ruin them from, from the grave. So with Maxwell basically defanged here and behind bars, I would not be shocked in the least to see a lot more women come forward. And that's why I say during a mistrial, if there is one that's declared, it might even go worse for Maxwell. And this article talks about that as well.
Commentator 1
It's.
Bobby Capucci
Yeah, it was obvious to me that it would be even harder the second time around for Maxwell to get off. But her team knows this is the only thing that they have, right? The only hope that they have is to get this as a mistrial and to drag it out a little bit longer in hopes that another technicality pops up or that they have another loophole that they can access because they know that the evidence is not in their favor. It's never been in their favor. It's never going to be in their favor. So looking at an appeal, I don't think that's gonna work out so well for him. Just take a look at how Maxwell's bail attempts went throughout this whole entire situation. Denied. Denied, Denied. Offered up a gigantic amount of money. Denied. So I highly doubt that her appeal is going to be met with any sort of positive reaction by the court. And that's the way it should be, in my opinion. When you commit a crime like this. I really don't feel like there's any kind of rehabilitation for you when you're abusing children. The most vulnerable amongst us. You should go and do a million years in prison. So I'm glad that she wasn't able to get bailed out throughout this whole thing. I mean, I know there was a lot of cynical people out there who thought she was going to make bail just because how broken this System is. And really, can you blame people who take that approach? I try not to. I get it. Honestly, the system is broken. People are cynical. You can't look at the institutions that we once trusted and tell me that you still trust them with no doubt about it. There's no reserve when you're looking reservations when you're looking at what they do. These institutions are not trustworthy because they're untrustable, and they're the ones who have made that bed. But, you know, you had people who really thought that she was gonna get bailed out, that she was. Was never even gonna face trial. And again, I can't even be critical of those kinds of people. I won't even call them conspiracy theorists, to be honest with you. When you look at a broken system and you expect the worst, that's just, you know, that's human nature at this point, Right? So I knew that she'd end up staying in jail, staying in prison. I never thought that she'd beat these charges. And the only way that she would ever be able to would be through a loophole or a technicality or perhaps something that presented itself, like with juror 50. But even that's not enough for her to get off. Maybe enough to initiate that mistrial, but certainly not enough to get her off. And I don't think there's a jury in the land, and that's not hyperbole when I say that, folks, I don't think there's a jury in the land that wouldn't find her guilty on the majority of these charges. Hell, I wouldn't be shocked if the next jury, if there was a mistrial. Long shot at this point, in my opinion. But if there is, I wouldn't be shocked if she's found guilty on all charges at that point. And then I really hope the government sticks it to her and. And pursues those perjury charges on the back end of all of this. Make her pay some more money, make her litigate it some more, and, you know, add a couple more years, like 10 on the back end of that sentence. That's what happens if you don't play ball. Right? Should just take your L here and move on. Ghislaine. But she won't do it. Her lawyers won't do it. And it's just gonna get worse for her because there's going to be more survivors who come out and. And tell their stories. So tonight we have two articles. First, we're gonna talk about this topic right here that we're talking about right now, and that is Bradley Edwards and him dishing about more girls coming forward and a little bit about the perhaps there being a mistrial. Then after that, we're gonna close out the show on a bit of a lighter note with that moron Prince Andrew and and the fact that he played a hide and seek game with his teddy bears. I know we've talked about the teddy bears a lot, right, for the last couple of days. But now it's coming out that this dude played a hide and seek game that he made the help participate in with his teddy bears. Oh yeah, we'll get to that for sure. All right, but first, before we get we go down that road, how about we hop into this article from Insider and author Jacob Shamsian over at Insider. And the headline is a new trial for Ghislaine Maxwell would go even worse for her accusers lawyer, for her accus. For her as accusers lawyer says more women came forward after her sex trafficking conviction and this was to be expected. Right. I had no doubt in my mind that more women were going to come forward here and there would be more tea being spilled. There's a lot of people that were around Ghislaine Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein, this whole operation that knew what was going on, maybe they didn't have a full look behind the curtain, right? Maybe they weren't sitting there participating. But you mean to tell me nobody was talking? There was no scuttlebutt? You know, when you're in a group of friends and everybody's friendly, somebody has some kind of, you know, weird behavior that they're up to, people talk about it.
Commentator 1
Hey, you know John and Jen, swingers,
Bobby Capucci
you know, that's just how it's human nature, right? People talk about scuttlebutt. You mean to tell me right now that there was never any talk about this, huh?
Commentator 2
About.
Bobby Capucci
Oh, Jeffrey likes him young. Well, you might want to talk to Ellen Powell, ex CEO of Reddit, about that because she says according to her, everybody knew what they were. I think Cindy McCain also said the same thing. So the whole oh we had no idea type shit, it's a loose ass defense in my opinion, and certainly not a defense at all. After his first arrest, before the first arrest, you could say, all right, I had no idea what he was and while I might be suspicious of it, I can't really pinpoint it and say, oh, you're a liar. Now if you were hanging out with him after the first arrest, you're just a straight up piece of shit. You already know what this dude Is, oh, it was soliciting a prostitute in Florida.
Commentator 2
Stop it.
Bobby Capucci
You know, it wasn't that, but yet these people still chose to chill with this dude. The prospect of a new trial for Ghislaine Maxwell would be frustrating for survivors who may be asked to testify again and to the prosecutors who successfully convicted her on charges of sex trafficking them. Excuse me, sex trafficking them. To Jeffrey Epstein, definitely frustrating. Who wants to live through that again? That was very traumatic for these ladies, getting up there testifying, whole world watching, basically reliving the absolute horror that you went through. Definitely not going to be fun. But like they said in the opening here with Brad Edwards, what he said, I think it'll be worse for her. There are more women coming forward as we speak on a daily basis,
Commentator 2
but
Bobby Capucci
it wouldn't be the end of the world. According to Brad Edwards, an attorney representing 58 women who have accused Epstein of misconduct. And if I said it once, I'll say it again. I am not a fan of lawyers for the most part. I find them to be pretty much repugnant characters, people that are, you know, ambulance chasing, clout chasing, that kind of thing. But Brad Edwards, as far as I can tell, is a pretty solid human being and a really decent guy, it would seem. So. You should probably check out his book that he has out, Relentless Pursuit. Definitely a good book, a book that I have personally. And if you're looking for more context about what Bradley Edwards part in all of this was, he can certainly explain it better than any of us can. So definitely check that book out if you want to know more about him. Since jurors convicted Maxwell in late December, more women have contacted Edwards to say they'd be willing to participate in any investigations into her conduct. He told Insider. What has happened since the guilty verdict is more people have come forward willing to share their stories about Ghislaine and testify.
Commentator 1
Edwards said.
Bobby Capucci
So I don't think a new trial would go any better for her. In fact, I think it would go worse for her. And this is what I've been saying, right, A mistrial. Well, on the. On the face of it, sounds a bit disastrous, but in the long run, I think it would be even worse for Maxwell and her team. Well, not her team's bank accounts, but for Maxwell and her team to even go through a mistrial here, they should cut bait. They should accept getting rid of the perjury charges up to 10, get those dropped, and then, you know, go and seek some kind of light sentence from the judge. As light as you're Going to get, you know, 40 years, 50 years, whatever it might be. But if you fight this and you try and waste the time of the court and the citizens, then I would hope that they look for maximum sentence for every little thing and like Brad Edwards says, tag some shit on let's get that RICO case going that we always talk about. That would be a great idea. Maxwell's attorneys formally filed their motion for a retrial Wednesday night. The motion is under seal. But in previous court filings, they argued that a juror's comments to the media about his own experience with sexual abuse indicate he should not have, he should not have been seated on the jury in the first place. Now, first of all, it's boo, boo and garbage that this is even being filed, filed under seal at this point. How is anything like this being filed under seal? This should all be transparent. How, how is it a secret that you're trying to get this trial overturned here on what the juror allegedly said or didn't say? I don't understand the secrecy of it. And again, it just goes to whip people up into a frenzy and, and get people talking, you know, out of the side of their neck. And again, I don't. It's not even that I blame people for doing that, because I really don't. It's the current climate that we're in. Nobody knows where to turn for truthful news or who to trust, and it's taking a toll. Edwards represented one of the four women who testified last month in Maxwell's trial in federal court in Manhattan. The woman, who testified under the pseudonym Kate, said Maxwell befriended her as a teenager, dangled the possibility that Epstein could help her career with powerful music industry connections, and then introduced her to sexualized massages with Epstein. And we all know the M.O. at this point. I'm not going to beat a dead horse and go into it, but imagine hearing the stories that Brad Edwards has heard from all of these different girls who have come to him and seeking his help. It was the beginning of a sexually abusive relationship with Epstein that lasted for years. Kay testified. She said that Maxwell often arranged sexual encounters between her and Epstein and that she felt fearful about leaving their orbit because they name dropped powerful friends like Prince Andrew and Donald Trump. So look for us on the outside, it's easy to sit there and try and put yourself in their shoes and say, oh, I would have done this, I would have left.
Commentator 1
I would have.
Bobby Capucci
You don't know until you're in that situation, you do not know what you would have done. How you would have reacted. In fact, unless you've ever been poor or from a broken home like this, then you really have no idea what's going on. U.S. district Judge Alison Nathan, who oversaw the trial, told jurors they could not convict Maxwell based on Kate's testimony about Epstein's sexual misconduct. Kate was at the age of consent in London when Epstein first sexually abused her, so she couldn't be considered one of Maxwell's survivors for the purposes of the trial. According to Edwards, still was abused. You know what I mean? And again, it's obviously, crimes against children are legitimately the most heinous crime you could possibly be engaged in. Second, in my opinion, is a crime against a woman or an older person. What in the hell is wrong with people? But Kate's testimony helped jurors understand that Maxwell used the same playbook over and over again when trafficking young women to Epstein for sex. He explained she provided information about the dynamic between Ghislaine and Jeffrey. Edwards said, what their life was like together then, and what type of arrangements that Ghislaine was capable of making. The knowledge of what Epstein's intentions were. So, again, Bradley Edwards dropping some knowledge, adding some context to the whole story. And who knows better than the guy that's on the front line since the very beginning? Remember, Jeffrey Epstein feared Brad Bradley Edwards so much that he had private investigators combing through his trash looking for dirt
Commentator 1
on him and shit.
Bobby Capucci
A new trial would also mean that prosecutors could present more evidence to convict Maxwell and keep her behind bars for the rest of her life. Edwards said Maxwell, 60, faces a sentence of up to 65 years. Nathan said she will hold a sentencing hearing this summer if Maxwell is not granted a new trial. I'm not ultimately that worried about the end result, Edwards said. Such is life. You have hurdles, and he is not wrong about that. Right. And when you're engaged in something for the long run and you're committed to something for the long run the way Bradley Edwards is, then this is just ready, you know, he's ready to go. He's one of those dudes, he, like, bites down on his mouthpiece in, like, round 96, and he comes out, he's still fresh, ready to go. His opponent's all beat up, tired. That's the kind of dude that Bradley Edwards is. So if they want to go for the mistrial, my guess is he's ready to rock. All right, so that's gonna conclude that article. And that's where we're at as far as more potential victims and survivors coming forward. And it's just like I said, I think I was just talking about this yesterday or earlier today do so many episodes it gets all confusing to me. But we were just talking about it how I believe that more women are going to come out and give their stories and then this article drops. So that's where we're at with that and I would expect a lot more folks as we move forward. All right, So I said we'd close on a light note tonight and we're going to do that. And that light note is this buffoon, this moron, this Prince of nothing, Prince Andrew and his knucklehead ass behavior. Alright, so this is an article from the Scottish sun and the headline is Teddy games Prince Andrew made his maid play hide and seek with his teddy bears. Look, I'm not making it up folks, all right, that sounds like some wild ass shit that I'm sitting around eating elk meat and consuming DMT with Joe Rogan before coming on here and talking to you. But this is real life and that's
Commentator 2
what the headline says.
Bobby Capucci
This article was authored by Julia Atherley. Prince Andrew would play hide and seek with his teddy bears. Despite being nearly 40, a former housemaid at Buckingham palace has revealed he used to have his maids conceal one of his stuffed toys if he was going out for the night. Oh, what a great game. Let's play hide and seek. I mean, is this guy for real? As Sebastian Maniscalco would say, aren't you embarrassed your stuffed toys if you were going out for the night? I wonder if you were playing with your stuffed toys before you went over to tramp. The Duke of York, AKA Prince of Nothing, would then try to find it when he came back. What a great game. I'm gonna go out all night, but
Commentator 2
you hide the teddy and when I
Bobby Capucci
come home I'm gonna try and find it. 40 year old man, Prince, ex war hero, full time clown. Jeanette McGowan, who worked at Buckingham palace from 1999 to 2000, remembers the game Andrew would play when he was 39. The former housekeeper, 65, from near Edinburgh told the sun it was a little game he would play with his maid. She would hide one of the teddy bears somewhere unexpected like the bathroom cabinet. When he came back to the palace he would have to try and find it. It was a bit odd and it was very tongue in cheek. Very tongue in cheek. A bit odd. 40 year old man PR hiding teddy bears. Little more than a touch odd.
Commentator 1
Downright weird.
Bobby Capucci
Okay, take your Beanie Baby collection and beat it.
Commentator 1
Pal.
Bobby Capucci
He used to find it very funny. His regular maid said it was just something she always did. This week, it emerged that the demanding Duke ordered flunkies to arrange five teddies and soft toys in specific positions on his bed every night.
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Really?
Bobby Capucci
Calling them flunkies? That's what they're called. How about working class people who are trying to make a living by pampering this stupid son of a bitch? Staff had a sketch showing precisely how the items should be set out. Andrew, now 61, said in 2010 he had always collected teddy bears. Jeannette recalled 40 to 50 of them would be piled on his bed during the day, only to be moved off each night. She said, my recollection is that there was a Polaroid picture of how the teddy bears would have to be placed kept in the bedside drawer. Yeah. Nah, no books.
Commentator 1
Yeah, forget it.
Bobby Capucci
I don't need a Bible. Or for me, you know, a George R.R. martin novel or a Joe Abercrombie novel. Nah, I just need to make sure I have this Polaroid picture of how my teddy bears go back. Take it easy, Buffalo Bill. I could see this dude dancing around like Buffalo Bill in his now stripped military uniform, listening to some funky music with his teddy bears. And with that image. Folks, I'm gonna leave you for the night. Sorry about that. Really apologize. I will be back tomorrow morning, obviously, and we will pick this right back up and we will continue on the quest of the ever evolving case of Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine, Maxwell, Prince Andrew and the rest of the nincompoops. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobbycapucciotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C c I@protonmail.com sorry, I have my dog here with me tonight and he's being a goofball. Just made me laugh. You can also find me at Twitter O B B ycapucci. The links that we discussed can be found in the description box. I. All right, folks, some more context episodes. Those episodes about Afghanistan are on the way. And then, like I said, tomorrow morning I will be back for the morning update and then we'll play it by ear from there. But you can definitely expect context episodes. And yeah, we'll be off and running. All right, everybody, enjoy your Friday night.
Commentator 1
Looks like the Department of Justice and the SDNY is finally doing their job, folks. We have news out today that the Department of Justice has officially requested that Andrew be made available for their investigation. Now, we know that the Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family previously said that he's willing to speak with whatever investigators are relevant to the investigation. Well, big mouth, here's your chance. And for all you clowns out there who still think that Andrew is an innocent man, shut up. Nobody wants to hear it. You're not edgy with your comments, all right? This guy is as guilty as they come. And the second he sits down in front of a seasoned FBI interrogator, this man's gonna be in big trouble. And I'll tell you what, folks. This doesn't just happen in a vacuum. I think that they might have other cooperating witnesses already that we don't know about. If this bombshell is getting released and they're formally requesting to speak to Prince Andrew, you would think that the SDNY and the prosecutor's office, they. They have their ducks in a row, and they have enough evidence to make a request such as that. For those of us who have been following this case for a while, well, we know that the evidence has been there for quite some time. It's been very apparen. And now the pressure is on, though. After the Netflix documentary has dropped and so many other crucial pieces of information have come out in this case, the prosecutor's office knows they have to act now. And all of that is because of you people out there who have been following this case and who have been going crazy because there's no justice. So the only reason we're at this point is because of the interest you folks have shown in this case. And the only reason the prosecution is even acting, in my opinion, is because the pressure is now on. But at the end of the day, does it really matter what spurs them into action? As long as the action is taken, as long as prosecutions are chased, as long as indictments are dropped? And now can we please see the bazooka? Can you just slap all of them with RICO charges, please? Because the rest of these coconspirators, they must be fit to be tied right now. If the Justice Department has requested to speak to Prince Andrew, that must mean that the other coconspirators are also under pressure right now. At least that's what you would think right from the outside looking in. When you analyze something like this and you start to break it down, whenever you have a criminal operation and you start seeing some of the people at the top or some of the more prominent people start to get the scrutiny, that usually means that someone went Joe Valachi in the lower rung of the organization. Now, the question is, is somebody speaking with the FBI is somebody cooperating? And in turn, have they provided information that has given the FBI and the Department of Justice the green light to make this request? I don't know. I don't have that information. I don't have any, you know, inside information on anything like that. But common sense says and history covering these kind of cases say, well, there is probably a cooperating witness and it looks like somebody is going. Joe Valachi. The article tonight is from the Daily Mail. The author is Kamal Sultan and Rebecca English. The headline is, Prince Andrew vows to fight back after department officially demanded the UK make him available for questioning about his links to pedophile Jeffrey Epstein as part of their ongoing criminal investigation. Can you imagine, just for a minute, step back and think where we started and where we're at. Look at the progress that has been made and look at what happens when people come together and they shelve their biases and they shelve their political tribalism and they work together towards a goal. I know it's cliche, but in the overall picture, when it comes to things like this and life in general, we should start worrying about what we do agree with and work from there. What we agree with with each other and work out from there and then get to the things we don't. We don't agree with each other later on. But when we work together, look at what happens now. Of course, he's not indicted yet, nothing like that. But at the end of the day, the whole goal is to get him in front of a judge, to get him in front of a jury, to get him in front of whoever it may be under oath and to have a trial. There's no running from that anymore. For these people, those days are long gone. The days of them running for the hills and hiding in cubbyholes and using their charitable works as a shield. All of that is finished now. And the reason that it's finished is because you folks out there refuse to give them quarter. You refuse to let them fall back on the same old tired excuses that the legacy media pumped out of their airwaves for years. You folks said enough was enough, and guess what? Enough is finally enough. Prince Andrew will launch an extraordinary public fight back Monday after U.S. authorities made a formal request for him to be quizzed over the Epstein affair. Now, you know he's not going to take this lightly. And you know he's going to get his money's worth from those high profile lawyers that he hired over in England. So they're going to come out swinging. They know that the best defense is offense here. And they're going to come out and they're going to look to take the narrative and they're going to look to take the high ground. Unfortunately for them, no matter what strategy they use, the fact of the matter is they have a toxic client. Everything about the man is toxic. The fallout is glowing off of him. At this point, he might as well live in the Fukushima reactor. That's how toxic he is. So even his lawyers, these high profile, hoop jumping, good old boy lawyers of his aren't going to be able to win any kind of public relations battle. Their only hope is to win in a courtroom. And with what we've seen so far, the evidence that has been presented so far, he is zero chance for that to occur. In a dramatic twist last night, it emerged that the U.S. department of justice has filed a mutual legal assistance request for help to the UK Home Office. These requests are used only in criminal cases under a legal treaty with the uk. So right there, you know this is serious business. You know that this is a criminal matter and you know that it's coming from the highest levels of government. This isn't some wily prosecutor firing from the hip hop. This is very, very calculated. People get together in big rooms for stuff like this, right? This isn't a phone call. So this is a serious situation for Prince Andrew and this is a serious situation for his lawyers. They better be on their game. Prince Andrew was always categorically denied any wrongdoing over his relationship with billionaire pedophile Jeffrey Epstein. But the request from US officials mean he could be forced to appear in a UK court as a witness in the case within months. And that'll do. I'll take justice over in the United Kingdom. Look, I have a lot of faith in our brothers and sisters across the pond in the United Kingdom and England. And I have a lot of faith that they'll do the right thing in a situation like this. Not in the government, folks. I don't believe. Look, I don't trust any of the governments in the world, all right? Never mind. Just the Western world, anywhere in the world at this point. But I have faith that the English people will not let this slide. And if he has to face interrogation in England, then so be it. Whatever the treaty says, whatever the terms of the treaty say, then so be it. But what I will tell you is there will be FBI interrogators asking those questions. U.S. officials have previously claimed that Andrew has refused to cooperate with their request to be questioned over Epstein and their investigation into his sex trafficking network. Submitting an MLA is an audacious move to try and force him to answer questions. And yeah, it definitely is. This isn't, this isn't some flash in the pan kind of scare tactic here. That was the shot fired over the bow when Berman first came out publicly and stated that Andrew should come forward and talk. I think that might have been an olive branch now that we look back in retrospect that Berman and his office were offering to Andrew to come forward and to do this quietly and the right way. Well, now that this has been submitted, that this MLA has been submitted, the genie is out of the bottle, folks. There's no going back. This is now war between the palace. If they're still involved. You know, they say they're not, but we know they are, and the federal government of the United States. So we are in for quite a. Quite the tug of war here. We are in for quite the battle. And I'll tell you what, I will tell you what. I am very interested to see how that's going to shake out. Because if the federal government is serious and filing an MLA like this, this is obviously very serious, then it will be a matter of time before we see more movement here and it's going to be very interesting to see how quickly this goes. Now, however, the male understands that the prince will make his own dramatic move Monday by hitting back forcefully at claims he has failed to engage with the American investigation. It is understood his team will publish a full account of their dealings with the Department of Justice. Okay, well, let's see it. We've heard from all of these people that are involved with Jeffrey Epstein, Dershowitz, Prince Andrew, Ghislaine, Maxwell, Kellen Bickers, etc.
Bobby Capucci
Etc.
Commentator 1
That they had nothing to do with it. They don't know Jeffrey Epstein. They were. Weren't very close to him. But none of them have provided any evidence. Not one chantilla of evidence. Okay. Not nothing. Bupkis. And they've just expected us to believe what they have to say. Oh, just believe us. We're telling you, so it must be the truth. We're rich, we're royalty, we're very powerful. So that means that we should just believe whatever they have to say. So now the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family is going to publish whatever sort of paperwork he's going to publish to try and make it out that he has really been cooperating behind the scenes the whole time. Meanwhile, we know that's not the case. The mail has been told that the Duke's legal team is at the end of its tether and has tried to play a straight bat with U.S. officials only to be greeted by leaks and innuendo. They're trying to melt muck rake. They're trying to throw mud here. They're trying to muddy the waters muck rake a little bit and make it seem like the Department of Justice and SDNY is going TMZ with the case. Now I will give his legal team this. The SDNY leaks like a faucet, folks. There is no secrecy within that office there. They leak everything. Just look at what's been going on for the past few years. They need to play things closer to the vest there. But they have a lot, a lot of people in that office that have a very close and symbiotic relationship with the legacy media. So you know what happens then? A source close to the Duke's legal team told the MEL last night legal discussions with the Department of Justice are subject to strict confidentiality rules as set out in their own guidelines. See what they're doing here? Again, the legal loopholes. Well we're not saying Prince Andrew is innocent, but what we are saying is they're not playing by the rules. There's technicalities in this case. The same bullshit we heard from Chris DeMarcs. This is how the legal system in the western world works. Loopholes, different rules for them than there are for us. We have chosen to abide by both the letter and the spirit of these rules which is why we have made no comment about anything related to the depos Department of Justice during the course of this year. We believe in playing a straight bat. No you don't. You haven't made any comments because anything you say will still make you look like a fool. Receipts, Evidence or bust, homie. Nobody wants to hear this. Nobody believes any of this shit. It is all hyperbole. And just like Eddard Stark would say, words are wind. Lets see some evidence. Let's see some receipts. You have anything to back up these statements? Playing with a straight bat.
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Shut up.
Commentator 1
Andrew, 60, is yet to speak to prosecutors in the US despite pledging in his disastrous Newsnight interview in November last year that he would cooperate. The Department of Justice request for mutual legal assistance from the Home Office effectively bypasses a request to Buckingham Palace. So they did an end around. They didn't even bother going to the the Royals. They didn't bother going to Buckingham Palace. They didn't bother going to whatever ambassador works with the Buckingham palace that's working and has a direct line to D.C. none of that. Right to the Home Office, right to the people that can slap the most legal ramifications on Andrew. And I think that's a very shrewd move. And to me, when you know how the Department of Justice and the SDNY handles themselves and conducts business, you know, when they do something like this, that they're not effing around. It looks to me, folks, like we're entering a whole new phase of this investigation. Now, I'm not going to get too excited about that yet. I'm not going to jump the gun. But it certainly appears that we are entering a new phase of this investigation. It means Andrew could be forced to appear in a British court as a witness within months. One of Epstein's survivors, Virginia Roberts, alleges she had sex with the duke of York three times when she was 17 at the behest of the billionaire pedophile. The Prince emphatically denies the allegations. Andrew's relationship with Epstein came under public scrutiny in 2010 when photos emerged of them together in New York. And again, folks, it's not just the relationship. I know I sound like a broken record at this point, but some things need to be hammered home. It is not their relationship that is the problem. It is not that they were friends
Bobby Capucci
that is the problem.
Commentator 1
The problem is he is being accused of not only being an enabler, but of partaking in the sex trafficking crimes of Jeffrey Epstein by abusing Virginia Roberts while she was under. Jeffrey Epstein's a prison confinement, basically. Okay. It's not just a friendship. By that time, Epstein was a registered sex offender, but the Duke spent a weekend at his 57 million pound mansion. Yeah, remember, he had to go there to break up because he's so honorable. Prince Andrew is such an honorable man that he had to fly to New York to break up with Jeffrey Epstein. I mean, that's what honorable men do, right? The disgraced financier pedophile killed himself last August while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. But his survivors want justice against his alleged co conspirators, including British socialite Ghislaine Maxwell, 58, the daughter of shame media tycoon Robert Maxwell. Lawyers for Ms. Maxwell have previously said she denies any wrongdoing. Andrew has categorically denied having any knowledge that Epstein was sexually abusing teenage girls. Ms. Roberts alleges she first had sex with Andrew in 2001 when she was 17. After being trafficked by Andrew. She said she was flown on Epstein's private jet to London to meet the Duke and the pair were photographed together in Ms. Maxwell's Belgravia home. Now, you all know that that picture is one of the most telling pieces of evidence within this whole entire sordid affair. She was obviously there. He was obviously all over her. Elaine Maxwell was there with a big, stupid grin on her face. And Andrew and. And Epstein was the one taking the picture, according to Virginia. Now, not only that, we have the IT specialist, Mr. Scully, who has come forward now and placed Virginia with Andrew on the island. Being groped, being, you know, whatever it is that Andrew was doing to her. So I don't care that he categorically denies any of this or any of that.
Bobby Capucci
Right?
Commentator 1
We have a lot of evidence here, folks, and it's time for him to come forward. He wants to play with a straight bat, whatever the hell that means, then come forward. During his Newsnight interview, Andrew said he did not recall ever meeting Ms. Roberts. It was claimed last night that the MLA request reported by the sun was formally lodged by the Department of Justice last month under the terms of a 1994 treaty. If granted, US prosecutors could either ask the Duke to voluntarily attend an interview or. Or give a signed statement. They could also ask Andrew to attend a magistrate's court to provide oral or written evidence on oath. If he refused, the Duke could be forced to attend in person, but Andrew would have the right to plead the Fifth Amendment under the U.S. constitution and stay silent in order to not incriminate himself. Oh, boy, that would be disastrous for the Royal family. If this man sits in front of investigators and pleads the Fifth. Whoo, boy, that will ignite the fire. Talk about throwing gas on an open flame. Look at how Jeffrey Epstein looked pleading the Fifth at the beginning of Filthy Rich. You imagine the video of Andrew at the deposition pleading the Fifth about something as heinous as this. The Honorable Andrew pleading the Fifth. Fifth about something like this. Boy, it would be an absolute disaster. The MLA request is not the same as requesting Andrew's extradition. That process could be launched only if he was considered a formal suspect and the FBI believed there was enough evidence to charge him. Home Office sources last night confirmed the request had been made. No decision has yet been made by UK officials. Boy, I can't even imagine. If they deny this request, this will light it right up. If they deny this request, it is obvious what's going on here, folks.
Commentator 2
Nobody on the whole, in the whole,
Commentator 1
on the whole planet could deny that this is a vast cover up. At that point, there is no good reason to deny a request such as this for someone Like Andrew, who is being credibly accused, it is time for this man to answer some hard questions. Unlike his mother, Queen Elizabeth ii, Prince Andrew does not have diplomatic immunity from prosecution. However, any evidence provided by Andrew may be held in camera, meaning the session would be private, with press and members of the public barred from attending. The Duke would also retain the right to plead the Fifth and stay silent. However, legal experts have already warned that any decision to do so could dramatically backfire. Well, I am not a legal expert, but I know what two plus two is. And I'll tell you what, him pleading the Fifth would be absolutely disastrous. You know who pleads the Fifth? Michael Corleone pleads the Fifth, folks.
Commentator 2
Okay?
Commentator 1
Jeffrey Epstein pleads the Fifth. Innocent men defend themselves. While the Prince would retain the right to decline to testify under the Fifth Amendment to the United States Constitution, the impact on his already diminished reputation would be considerable. And an adverse and an adverse inference could be drawn against him in the related civil litigations leading to a possible default judgment. Former federal prosecutor Evan T. Barr wrote in the New York Law Journal last month. Barr suggested Andrew's safest approach is to hunker down in the uk. Yup, that is his best bet. The longer he can avoid answering questions, the longer he could avoid going under oath. That is his best bet. Prince Andrew announced he'd be stepping back from public life after the Disastrous interview with BBC's Newsnight in November regarding the decades long friendship he shared with Epstein and his involvement in the sex trafficking portion of it. I guess I'm gonna have to hammer that home just like I did with survivors when everybody was calling them victims. Now, thankfully, people are catching on. They're not victims anymore. They're survivors. And it's the same thing here. It's not a friendship, okay? Andrew was a lot more than just a friend. Andrew was partaking in Jeffrey Epstein's disgusting sex trafficking organization. Point blank, period. That's my opinion. During the interview, Andrew insisted he would cooperate with any US Investigation if his legal advice was to do so. However, in January, U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York Jeffrey Berman criticized Andrew for providing zero cooperation with his probe. Then in March, Berman said Andrew had since completely shut the door on voluntary cooperation. Representatives for Andrew rebuked the claims, insisting his legal aides had been in regular contact with the prosecutor's office since the beginning of the year. Now again, folks, I don't have any evidence of this, right? I haven't even read anything hinting at it. But I have one of my gut feelings in this case that other people are cooperating already and that this investigation is moving a lot quicker than we thought. Who those people might be, I have no idea. Ex employees, other people involved who are facing long bids. I don't know exactly who, but my gut tells me that other people are talking right now because they know that the second they do not talk, they will be slapped with vicious RICO statutes. And again, that's just my opinion. I don't have any information to share with you or to point out or a source to add to say that that's occurring. But when it comes to something like this and you see them getting this aggressive with an mla, there is something else going on. This is not happening in a vacuum and this is not just happening on its own. There is something else cooking. Berman, meanwhile, said his office was considering its options after Andrew's attorneys made it clear he was not willing to submit to an interview. The MLA request was then filed in May, and again, it was played pretty close to the to the. To the vest, right? Being filed in May. Nobody really heard about it. I hadn't heard anything about the mla. I really don't have any sources over in England per se, and even in America here, I don't have too many sources close to the legal end of this case. So I hadn't heard anything about this MLA and I hadn't read about it anywhere else. So they kept it pretty close to the vest. But it is a serious situation for Andrew, folks. I can't stress that enough. Prince Andrew was previously admitted to becoming friends with Jeffrey Epstein in 1999, after being introduced to the financier pedophile through Bill Clinton's gamade Ghislaine Maxwell Epstein was a guest at Maxwell's birthday party at Sandringham's palace, as well as Princess Beatrice's 18th birthday party at Windsor Castle in 2006, two months after a warrant was issued for his arrest for the sexual assault of a minor. How nice is that, huh? Andrew, such a solid guy, such an honorable cat. Has Epstein hanging out at his daughter's birthday party, 18th birthday let's have a sex offender, a guy who likes children, come and hang out. That is a fantastic idea. Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, Father of the Year Epstein and Andrew are believed to have met on at least 10 other occasions with the Duke of York, even staying over at Epstein's mansion in New York, at his Palm beach home and on his private island in the U.S. virgin Islands and in New Mexico. What did they do, build forts in the living room? Were they hanging out, watching the King's Speech. We know what they were doing. We know it's sick. Disgusting, gross ass members of so called polite society you're up to. They don't get off the way we do. You know, me or you, we go to the casino, throw a hundred bucks away. You know, that's exciting, right? We have a wager on a baseball game for a few hunj. Exciting shit. What do you do when you have all the money in the world? Well, we obviously see what they do when they have that sort of money by glimpsing behind the curtain into Jeffrey Epstein's world with all of these sick bastards that are hanging out with them. Roberts claims she was trapped by Epstein to have sex with Prince Andrew in London in 2001 at Maxwell's home in Mayfair when she was 17 years old. Roberts also alleges that Epstein later paid her to have sex with Andrew at Epstein's New York mansion and claims to have had sex with Prince Andrew and eight other girls on Epstein's private island in 2002. Think about that for a minute, folks. This is the Queen's son. This is what he's charged with. Not friendship, okay? Don't let them gaslight you. Don't let them steal the narrative. It is not friendship. Call a spade a spade. Call it for what it is. Andrew denies the allegations made by Roberts, insisting he has no recollection of ever meeting her. Epstein was convicted for procuring an underage girl for prostitution. Again, in possibility, an underage girl cannot consent to be a prostitute. Therefore, there is no such thing as underage prostitutes. What in the world is wrong with this world? And soliciting a prostitute in Florida in 2008, two years after his release from prison. Andrew is pictured entering Epstein's New York mansion in December 2010, where he stayed for four days. I'm sure they were just playing Xbox and having hot cocoa. In his interview with Newsnight, Andrew insisted that the sole purpose of the visit was to cut ties with Epstein. The Queen's second son likened the 21,000 square foot mansion to a railway station. Due to the fact that there were people coming in and out of the house all the time. A railway station. And that's where you'd want to stay, huh? You're the Prince of England and you could stay anywhere in New York. All those fantastic lavish lodgings made for people like you. And you chose to stay at a place where people are coming and going at the. At all hours. You don't want your privacy. You don't want secrecy. You don't want to be left alone. You're. It's such. It's such bs. This guy's whole story is such bs. Pushed on why he stayed at the home of a convicted sex offender. He said, now, I went there with the sole purpose of saying to him that because he had been convicted, it was inappropriate for us to be seen together. So I'll just stay the night at your house for four days. I'll just, you know, hang out here and, you know, we'll have our hot cocoa and, you know, maybe your butler can do some reading to us. Doesn't that sound fun, Jeffrey? We know what these sick bastards were up to. We know what their massages were. I'm saying that with air quotes right now. And we know that Andrew is neck deep involved in all of this shit. This dude is gross. He needs to be indicted. A former model who was once part of Epstein's inner circle claimed in an exclusive interview with the Mail on Sunday earlier this month that the financier pedophile had arranged for three young women to meet Prince Andrew at the residence during the visit. The women were all in their early 20s, were told to dress up beautifully for the meetings. The source claimed Jeffrey Epstein, 66, was found dead in his Manhattan jail cell last August while awaiting trial on sex trafficking charges. Well, well, well. Prince Andrew, the Prince of punk asses, AKA the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, is now feeling the heat. The walls are starting to close in. His time is coming. And for some reason, folks, I have a sneaking suspicion that he's not having any problems sweating right now. If you'd like to contact me, you can do that@bobbycapucciorotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U C C I prot you can also find me on Twitter at Bobby Capuci. Alright, everybody, we'll be back tomorrow morning and we'll do it all over again. I hope you all had a fantastic weekend. A new year me.
Commentator 2
What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. If there is one person on this planet that's happy as hell to hear about the Department of Justice closing their Epstein investigation, there's no doubt that that person is the Joe Exotic of the Windsor family, AKA Prince Andrew. And that's because he's going to be able to travel once again now that the DOJ and the FBI isn't looking to have a conversation with him. Not that I think they were trying to do that before to be Honest with you. But there was always that chance. And we all know that the Prince of punk asses, the Joe Exotic of the Windsor Family, Prince Andrew wasn't ever going to risk it. Instead, he decided to just skulk around all day and be a black eye for the Royal Family. But now that's all over and done with because the DOJ has decided that there's nothing left to see here, that there's no more investigation to be done, and that Prince Andrew and people like him, they have nothing left to worry about. Today's article is from the US sun and the headline cleared for takeoff. Erramile Zandi Free to End travel ban After FBI closes probe into Prince's link with pedo tycoon Jeffrey Epstein. And I know this comes as a shock to a lot of people, but not me. I've been telling you folks for years not to expect any kind of real justice here. If justice was gonna come, it would have come already. Instead, what you're gonna get is gaslighting and a bunch of people telling you to move on. A bunch of people that don't even have any skin in the game. Imagine telling one of the fathers of one of these thousand or so girls to just move on. It's one thing to talk that on the Internet. It's a whole ass other thing to talk to one of these survivors or their families and tell them that, you know, it's just time to move on. Meanwhile, nobody has been brought to justice. Ghislaine Maxwell is the only one. Her and Jean Luc Brunel. And conveniently Jean Luc Brunel ends up killing himself. So the only one rotting in a jail cells, Ghislaine Maxwell. And that's all by design. She was served up. She was the last woman standing, if you will. And in my opinion, when they decided to burn the operation and they decided to burn all connections to the operation, their real contact obviously was Jeffrey Epstein. As much as he decided to tell her. Now look, that doesn't mean I don't think Elaine Maxwell should be in prison. I most certainly do. Let us not forget what we heard during the trial and what we heard from the girls who said Ghislaine Maxwell took part in the abuse herself. So let's not act like Lane Maxwell is innocent here. And that's certainly not my point. But it sure is all convenient, isn't it? Anybody that was actually connected to the operation, as far as people who could connect the dots and really slam things home, those people end up dead. And the only person that ends up doing a bid is Ghislaine Maxwell. What does that tell you? And they didn't even charge her with rico. They charged Diddy with rico, not Ghislaine Maxwell. So, look, people can say whatever they want, but the facts point in a completely different direction. And I'm not going to be gaslit into thinking that this was just one perverse man who was going around and abusing all these girls for all these years. Now, look, there's no doubt that there's a lot of BS that comes along with Jeffrey Epstein. People getting eaten and, you know, the whole thing. And I don't even bring that stuff up on the podcast, and I never have for this reason. That stuff just gets in the way of the real, tangible evidence that we have of what Jeffrey Epstein was up to. Now, look, I'm not saying that Epstein wasn't up to some funky ass that I don't even know about. He probably was. The dude was into some really odd stuff. But if you can't even get people to believe that Jeffrey Epstein was, you know, running around with the most powerful people in the world and being protected by them, how are you going to get them to believe the other stuff? So shouldn't you start with the stuff that people are gonna actually believe? And when I say people, I mean, you know, regular folk, mainstream folk, who don't know the story. And obviously, we don't have those people believing the whole story as it is. Not everybody. And that's because all of the other noise, right? All the other bs. This article was authored by Matt Wilkinson. The terrified duke of York, 65, has hunkered down at Royal Lodge in Windsor for six years, fearing arrest if he left the UK. And there was about as much chance of that happening, him getting arrested due to the allegations with Epstein as there is of me being part of the Royal family. It was never going to happen again. Red meat. They wanted it to look like they were engaging in this long, deep investigation when really nothing was going on. And if they did do this deep, dark investigation they talk about, then all those documents need to be unleashed. Let's see it all. And I'll gladly say to you if I'm wrong, hey, look, they did this deep dive. They investigated every allegation, they unturned every rock, they kicked in all the doors, shook all the bushes, and they came up empty. Cool. I'd be more than willing to say, you know what? All right, there's enough here to say that they did what they could, but that's not the case. What about the girls we've never heard of. What about girls like Jane Doe 1001 or Jane Doe 17 or Lisa Doe? Oh, these are names you never heard of, right? That's because they're not part of the mainstream conversation. So if there's part of this story that you don't even know people involved that you've never even heard of, do you really think it's time to move on? I would say that it's not the time to move on. And it's not going to be the time to move on until there's full transparency here at the very least. Because I know we're not going to get justice. I'm not naive. Justice is only for people like them. We don't rate you, your children, everybody you know and love. Expendable. They don't give a about anybody but themselves. And they'll just make pretend and dog walk people that they're engaging in this long investigation. Cool. Now prove it. You don't have to show us the video. Don't be obtuse. Nobody wants to see that. Disgusting anyway. Maybe Prince Andrew. Not the rest of us. So what about the documentation? Let's see the paper trail. What about the finances? Oh, that's right. They won't show us the finances. You know why, right? You know where that paper trail leads? Directly to the financial sector. And if you want to talk about the real masters of the universe, there they are. The people in the financial sector that never suffer any kind of ramification for their. The people that elect presidents fund. Our politicians fund all the that we deal with. The people that have you in a state of slavery. Oh, you don't think so? Go and check that debt amount. How much do you on your school debt? How about your car? How about your Macy's card or whatever. The. The real people that we should be angry at are the bankers and the financiers. And until the pitchforks and the torches that means us understand that people like this are going to continue to get away with it. But if we followed the money and we had a real investigation and we would have hit Ghislaine Maxwell with rico. Where do you think that would have led us? Well, it would have led us to the very people who ended up avoiding all this trouble anyway. Jamie Dimon, all the other people at Deutsche Bank. Oh, they paid a fine. But did anyone go to prison? Did anybody go to jail? How about for their when it comes to working with cartels, anyone go to prison then anyone go to jail? Of course not. Or how about this one from one of their greatest hits albums. That time that they melted down the financial market. How many people went to prison for that? Oh yeah, that's right, they didn't. Instead they're working for presidents, electing presidents, and now probably having presidents bury. Jeffrey Epstein's a friend said that Andrew has been abroad once since the scandal erupted. But without the FBI investigation hanging over his head, he will feel it safe to travel. He has always been very nervous about going abroad and felt he'd always be looking over his shoulder as he could be subject to civil action or at worse being arrested. Hopefully with this out of the way that means he can at least leave the country. Oh, poor Andrew. He couldn't leave the country. He was scared he was going to get served. So instead Mr. Grifty Grifterton over here went and hid at the lodge and had his brother pay for everything. What an absolute slime ball this dude is. How could anybody ever defend Prince Andrew? What's he supposed to do with the rest of his life? He hasn't been convicted of any crime and he can't sit around at the Royal Lodge forever. I suggest that he finds a colony of lepers and goes and lives with them, provide them comfort and solace. You know, he's such a great guy, right? I mean, according to the five people that support him, Prince Andrew is just one of the greatest guys of all time. In fact, he's so great I'm gonna bring a 16, 17 year old girl over to him and he can hang out with her in Belgravia at my mansion. Wait, what? They found out? Let's tell them though that I was in Woking at the pizza joint and look, I can't sweat. I don't know what that even means. I don't drink, I don't sweat, I don't do anything. So yeah, maybe he should just stay at the Royal Lodge for the rest of his pathetic life. The Duke was dubbed Airmile Zandi amid criticism of his globe trotting and use of helicopters and planes at taxpayers expense. He racked up huge bills while a working Royal and UK trade envoy. But his only recent trip abroad was on a private jet to Buran in 2022. I bet they love people like Prince Andrew down there. Get away with all kinds of shit. Was he at one of those Instagram model parties? Earlier this year the sun revealed that he was flogging access to former business contacts around the globe in a commercial deal with Dutch based firm startup Boot Camp. Under the agreement, Andy gets cash for passing on links he gained through the defunct global scheme. Pitch at palace, mainly in east Asia. Yeah, get that hustle on in east Asia where you have a bunch of vulnerable people that nobody cares about. The whole entire thing is sick and twisted. The whole thing is disgusting and the whole ass system is corrupt. Arrest fears meant he has been unable to meet his contacts. Andrew has said that he'd be prepared to speak to the FBI and willingly help any appropriate law enforcement agency. After convicted pedophile Epstein died in 2019. Six months later, U. S. Prosecutors said he had provided zero cooperation. Again, another that opened his own mouth. He's the one who said he'd help out. He's the one who said all this big stuff during that interview that turned out to be untrue. If you would have just been able to tell the truth during that interview, you would have been a lot better off. But you couldn't tell the truth, right? So you lied. And you got caught lying. And it ended up costing your mommy and your brother a cool 12, $15 million. The sun revealed the department of justice applied to the home office to speak to Andrew via a mutual legal assistance request used only in criminal investigations. Their investigation was paused last year. Imagine this. Imagine the federal government wanting to talk to you as part of a criminal investigation. And then all of a sudden, it just gets closed down. Out of nowhere. Nothing new happened. No big revelations, nothing. Just pressure on the federal government to release the information. But instead. Nah, we're gonna cover it all up. We're gonna make pretend that it never happened. Before you know it, they're gonna want us to believe that Jeffrey Epstein is not even a real person. That's the next move. Andrew has always denied claims by Virginia Roberts that he abused her when she was 17.
Commentator 1
Yeah, sure.
Commentator 2
Nobody's believing that without accepting any wrongdoing. In 2022, he paid her $15 million with the late Queen's help. Ms. Roberts was found dead at her australia farm in April, age 41. Yeah, because all innocent people are out here paying all this money to people they didn't abuse. Right? That's exactly what people do. Here's the real truth. He didn't want to deal with depositions. He didn't want to deal with going through the whole entire process. Because he'd be exposed. He'd have to tell the truth. And then what? Well, after that, he'd be indicted. So that's why prince Andrew did what he did. He couldn't lie under oath. He would have been exposed, and it would have been a wrap for him. But instead, Prince Andrew gets to ride off into the sunset without ever once sitting down under oath and answering any questions. Meanwhile, Virginia's dead and you want us to move on. Fat chance. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
Episode Date: June 16, 2026
Host: Bobby Capucci
Bobby Capucci delivers a no-holds-barred run-through of continuing developments in the Epstein case, with a focus on the Department of Justice’s evolving actions regarding Prince Andrew. Capucci explores the ongoing impact of survivor testimony, the DOJ's pursuit of the Duke of York, the Royal Family's machinations, and why justice remains elusive for so many connected to the Epstein network. The host also dissects media reports and legal moves, highlighting both moments of (dark) levity—like Prince Andrew’s infamous teddy bear games—as well as the raw realities of systemic corruption and survivor trauma.
Continued Emergence of Survivors (00:30-05:30)
Capucci emphasizes how, as co-conspirators like Ghislaine Maxwell are brought to justice, more survivors feel empowered to come forward.
Discusses the "dam analogy," comparing the gradual emergence of survivors to cracks in a dam foreshadowing the collapse of the system protecting abusers.
“It just shows you the absolute wake of misery and sorrow that was left in the path of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell for years.” – Bobby Capucci (02:15)
Bradley Edwards’ Commentary (05:30-13:00)
Cites Brad Edwards, attorney for dozens of survivors, who notes that even after Maxwell's conviction, new survivors contact him.
Highlights that renewed legal exposure only adds pressure: a mistrial for Maxwell would likely result in more survivors and evidence, not less.
Capucci notes: “If there is a new trial, it’s going to be even worse for Maxwell.”
“What has happened since the guilty verdict is more people have come forward willing to share their stories about Ghislaine and testify.” – Brad Edwards, as relayed by Capucci (12:37)
Legal System Cynicism
Bobby underscores the justified mistrust of institutions, referencing repeated denial of bail to Maxwell and public skepticism about actual accountability.
Criticizes court processes (sealed filings, technicalities) that feed public uncertainty.
“These institutions are not trustworthy because they’re untrustable, and they’re the ones who have made that bed.” – Bobby Capucci (05:00)
On the Risk of Mistrial (11:31-17:28)
Explains how Maxwell’s legal team bets on technicalities to appeal or force a new trial.
Repeats that survivor willingness to testify again shows abusers are losing their grip.
“I don’t think a new trial would go any better for her. In fact, I think it would go worse for her.” — Brad Edwards, quoted (12:38)
Testimony Details & Survivor Impact
Relays details from Maxwell’s trial, e.g., ‘Kate’s’ testimony about grooming tactics, name-dropping powerful men to keep survivors silent (15:50).
Capucci calls out societal tendency to judge survivors, reminding listeners that most come from vulnerable backgrounds.
“You don’t know until you’re in that situation, you do not know what you would have done... unless you’ve ever been poor or from a broken home like this, then you really have no idea what’s going on.” – Bobby Capucci (15:50)
Government Strategy
Increasing Pressure from U.S. Authorities (23:34-39:25)
Capucci reports the DOJ’s formal request to the UK Home Office for Prince Andrew to be made available for questioning.
States this step marks a serious escalation—it bypasses the Palace and demands a criminal-law-level response.
Suggests the timing and legal process strongly imply the existence of cooperating witnesses.
“If the Justice Department has requested to speak to Prince Andrew, that must mean that the other co-conspirators are also under pressure right now.” – Bobby Capucci (24:36)
The Royal Defense Playbook
Reviews public relations strategies likely to be deployed by Andrew’s legal team: denying wrongdoing, accusing U.S. media and prosecutors of “muck raking,” and appealing to confidentiality and technicalities.
“Their only hope is to win in a courtroom. And with what we’ve seen so far, the evidence that has been presented so far, he has zero chance for that to occur.” – Bobby Capucci (34:15)
Consequences of Testimony & Pleading the Fifth
Highlights the potential disaster for Andrew’s public image if he pleads the Fifth Amendment during UK or U.S. questioning.
Underlines that his options are limited; legal experts suggest his best move is to avoid setting foot outside the UK.
“The Honorable Andrew pleading the Fifth about something like this. Boy, it would be an absolute disaster.” – Bobby Capucci (44:05)
Virginia Roberts’ Allegations Revisited
Capucci lampoons reports (Scottish Sun) that Prince Andrew, at nearly 40, made palace staff play hide-and-seek with his stuffed animals, requiring precise nightly arrangements and Polaroid instructions.
Uses the segment to contrast the petty eccentricities of the elite with the suffering of survivors and the seriousness of criminal allegations.
“40 year old man, Prince, ex war hero, full time clown.” – Bobby Capucci (20:18)
“Take your Beanie Baby collection and beat it. Pal.” – Bobby Capucci (21:05)
DOJ Quietly Closes the Book (55:09–67:09)
Capucci returns in later segments to address the DOJ and FBI’s decision to close their investigation, thus freeing Andrew to travel—and effectively letting him off the hook.
Mocks claims that the investigation was ever rigorous, calling for the release of full documentation and financial records.
“If justice was gonna come, it would have come already. Instead, what you’re gonna get is gaslighting and a bunch of people telling you to move on.” – Bobby Capucci (56:15)
Points out that only Maxwell and Jean Luc Brunel (who died in custody) faced real legal consequences, with the most powerful figures untouched.
Decries the media narrative minimizing survivors’ voices and condemning the lack of transparency.
“All of the other noise, right? All the other BS. ...If there’s part of this story that you don’t even know, people involved that you’ve never even heard of, do you really think it’s time to move on?” – Bobby Capucci (58:35)
Aftermath for Survivors & Andrew
Notes that Andrew’s out-of-court settlement with Virginia Roberts came only to avoid depositions and scrutiny, not out of innocence.
“He couldn’t lie under oath. He would have been exposed, and it would have been a wrap for him. But instead, Prince Andrew gets to ride off into the sunset without ever once sitting down under oath and answering any questions. Meanwhile, Virginia’s dead and you want us to move on. Fat chance.” – Bobby Capucci (67:09)
On the Corrupt Legal System:
“Loopholes, different rules for them than there are for us.” – Bobby Capucci (35:00)
On Media Defenses of Andrew:
“The Prince of nothing, Prince Andrew and his knucklehead ass behavior.” – Bobby Capucci (19:32)
On Institutional Cynicism:
“I really don’t feel like there’s any kind of rehabilitation for you when you’re abusing children. The most vulnerable amongst us. You should go and do a million years in prison.” – Bobby Capucci (05:05)
Capucci’s delivery is impassioned, irreverent, and unapologetically skeptical of both the powerful figures in the Epstein orbit and the institutions meant to hold them to account. The show balances serious advocacy for survivors with moments of acerbic, sometimes dark humor (especially regarding royal foibles), all the while demanding accountability and transparency.
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