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The Epstein Chronicles
Mega Edition: The Legacy Media Ignored The Epstein Story For Years. What Changed? (7/5/26)
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For decades, much of the legacy media treated Jeffrey Epstein’s world with a caution that often functioned like protection for the powerful people around him. The allegations against Epstein were not new, and neither were the questions about the...
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What's up, everyone? And welcome to another episode of the Epstein Chronicles. Recently we've been talking a whole lot about President Trump and his nonsense when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and the obvious cover up that is underway. Well, if you think that Donald Trump is the only person that's in politics or that's been in politics that was friendly with Jeffrey Epstein, that relied on Jeffrey Epstein, that was close to Jeffrey Epstein, you were sorely mistaken. And the vast majority of the people that Jeffrey Epstein was friendly with and was funding were on the other side of the aisle. And I know a lot of people don't want to hear that right now, but it's the truth. So if you're somebody out here that's only thinking that Donald Trump was involved, you're crazy. Now, we have to differentiate one thing, and it's very important. Donald Trump is the sitting president right now. He's the one that is overseeing the alleged cover up. But let's not forget that people like Bill Clinton's ass have a lot to answer for when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and the lies they told about the relationship that they had with this man. But Bill Clinton has never come forward, never offered up any kind of explanation, never offered up any kind of apology, and in fact, has continued to double down on all the lies that he told along about his and Jeffrey Epstein's relationship from the very beginning. And for my longtime listeners, I've been somebody that's been on top of this mountain yelling about Bill Clinton and his ability to avoid scrutiny when it comes to Epstein for literally years. And when I say I have no faves and I want pure accountability for everybody involved, this is what I mean. I don't care what party you're in, I don't care how you vote. I, I don't care what else you've done in your life. It doesn't matter to me if you enable Jeffrey Epstein and then you lied about it especially, you need to face a reckoning. And for Bill Clinton, that reckoning has never come. Well, now that this story is back in the spotlight. I hope that people are gonna pay more attention to what Clinton was up to and just how deep the ties between Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Clinton really run. Because those ties are deep and they're strong. And finally somebody in the legacy media, if you will, is calling that relationship out. No, it's not anybody on cable news. It's not any of your favorite journalists who are running around yelling Trump, Trump, Trump. It's Charlemagne the God. Today's article is from the New York Post and the headline charlemagne the God slams liberal media for ignoring Bill Clinton's ties to Epstein. Nobody's talking about that. Well, Mr. Charlemagne the God, I can assure you and promise you plenty of people are talking about it, just not people that are being platformed. This article was authored by Joshua Q. Nelson. Charlemagne, tha God of the Breakfast Club on Tuesday slammed the liberal media for ignoring former president Bill Clinton's past ties with Jeffrey Epstein. You know, it's interesting two, cause it's just funny how the news works. Cause Bill Clinton, you know, wrote a letter to Jeffrey Epstein as well for his birthday. But nobody's talking about that. And Jeffrey Epstein had a picture of Bill Clinton in a dress in high heels in his New York mansion, but nobody's talking about that. Charlemagne said. And that's just the surface level. What about the money that was given to the Clinton Global Initiative by Jeffrey Epstein and seed money to get things off the ground? What about the fact that Glenn Maxwell was at Chelsea Clinton's wedding front and center? What about the Clinton's involvement with Terramar? What about the Clintons going to Zorro Ranch and lying about it? What about Alexander de Rossi, Ghislaine Maxwell's nephew, securing a high level job at Hillary Clinton State Department? Or how about the time that Bill Clinton was getting a massage from an Epstein trafficking victim inside of an airport? Oh, that's not a rumor. We have a picture backing it up. And the survivor that was giving that massage was Shantae Davies. Now look again, I'm not going to sit here and tell you that I, I have proof that Bill Clinton was molesting girls with Jeffrey Epstein. I haven't seen that proof, but I think we have plenty of proof to prove that Bill Clinton's lying about the extent of his relationship with Epstein. And I think that's something that needs to be talked about. And, and not only Bill Clinton, we need to talk about Bill Richardson, George Mitchell and yes, Stacy Plaskett as well. Because if you care about justice, you care about all the People that are involved, not just one side of the aisle, not just who you can score political points against. And it's my hope that if you folks take anything away from this, it's that these people in power, no matter what side of the aisle they're on, they don't care about you. So is it really worth fighting with your relatives, not having family get togethers because you have different politics? Breaking news, folks. All these are the same and they all look at you as disposable, no matter what side of the aisle they're on. He continued, my thing is, I don't care who's on the list. Everybody gotta go burn it all down. Like that's just simple as that. Mutually assured destruction. Whoever's on the list need to go. Nobody needs to be protecting pedophiles. Well, that's for sure. But unfortunately, in 2019, when all of this was going down, the left largely ignored it. Do you remember anybody on the left making issue out of this? And the reason I know you don't want to hear this, but it's the truth is because Hillary Clinton was running for president and the ties between Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein were so deep that it would have really thrown things into chaos for Hillary Clinton. So the legacy media largely ignored it. And not only that, but they cast anybody talking about it as a conspiracy theorist. And I find it ironic that now, all these years later, all these people that called it a conspiracy theory are having this revelation that they were the ones who were hustled, that this is a lot more than some tinfoil hat conspiracy theory and that the rot runs deep. And people who might have been ignoring it previously, well, they can't ignore it now because the truth is what it is. And when you pull that shade back in the room and you expose the rot and the degeneracy, you can't go back to the beginning. You can't make pretend it doesn't exist. It does. And unfortunately, all of your elected officials on both sides of the aisle are responsible for people like Jeffrey Epstein being protected and being able to do what he was able to do for as long as he was able to do it. Charlemagne's comments, which were first flagged by Mediaite, came after President Trump said those asking about the late financier Jeffrey Epstein sex trafficking case should direct their attention to Clinton and former treasury secretary Larry Summers. 100% correct. Both of those guys were involved. But guess what? We can talk about Trump and them at the same time. At least I can. Other people might not want to do it, but I'm not other people and I'm not beholden to one base or the other. This is why I've always stayed independent. This is why I don't get involved in the day to day political struggles. And if Donald Trump didn't open his fat ass yap and insert himself into this conversation with his bullshit, we wouldn't be talking about him either. But here we are. And when it comes to Bill Clinton, anybody who's paying attention, anybody who knows the story, knows that Bill Clinton has been given a pass for all these years. And I've been screaming from the rooftops about how horrible that is and how Bill Clinton needs to answer some questions. So hopefully this is going to trickle down and we're going to get some questions answered by Bill Clinton. But considering his past behavior when it comes to this story and all of the denials, why would he be truthful now? What does he have to gain, especially when all eyes are on Trump? And for all of his faults, Bill Clinton is not stupid when it comes to politics. He understands that it's in his best interest to sit back in the cut and let all this fallout happen. Why insert himself? Why even begin to try and change the conversation or the narrative and have it pointed at him? Trump's remarks come a day after the U.S. deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche met with Epstein associate Ghislaine Maxwell. You mean co conspirator, fellow child abuser, bipedal serpent and disgusting human being, right. In Florida amid heightened scrutiny about the case after the Trump administration announced it would not unseal investigation materials concerning Epstein. You ought to be speaking to Larry Summers. You ought to be speaking about some of his friends that are hedge fund guys, Trump told reporters Friday while departing for Scotland. While Trump's not wrong about that, we should be talking about everybody, Trump included. But there's no doubt that Larry Summers had ties and certainly Bill Clinton. And don't even get me started on Harvard. Jeffrey Epstein had an office on the campus of Harvard, all because of people like Larry Summers. And let's not forget that Joe Biden's head of the CIA, Bill Burns. Well, Jeffrey Epstein was his life coach, so there's that. You want to talk about ties that run deep. You want to talk about rot, folks, Jeffrey Epstein and his operation embodied it. And for all these decades, both sides of the aisle were all too happy to look the other way and let him do what he was doing because it was to their benefit. And now that it's all being exposed and that people are finally paying attention. They're trying to rewrite history. Unfortunately for them, we're not going to allow that to occur. And when I say we, I mean all of us. They're all over the place. You ought to be speaking about Bill Clinton. Trump then accused Clinton of visiting Epstein's private island. Trump said he had never visited the island before. Now, I've never heard about Trump going to the island. Bill Clinton, on the other hand, I know for a fact was on the island because I was told it directly by somebody who was on the island and saw them. And we've also heard from Mr. Scully who said the same thing.
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So Bill Clinton's whole story about never going to the island is straight bs. I mean, multiple people have seen him there. But sure, go ahead, believe whatever he tells you. Clinton also denied that he has ever visited the island. In his new memoir, Citizen, released in 2024, Clinton said he'd never gone to the island and that he'd wished he never even met Epstein in the first place. Oh, I'm sure, Big Billy, I am sure that you're just broken up about all the fun times you had with your pal Jeffrey Epstein, spokespeople for Summers and Clinton, did not immediately respond to a request for comment from Fox News Digital. Summers previously served as Treasury Secretary for Clinton, as well as the director of the National Economic Council for former President Barack Obama. Neither Summers nor Clinton have been accused in engaging in in any illegal conduct in connection with their ties to Epstein. Well, that's true, unless you consider the enabling, which I do, to be a big problem. Because without all these famous people around them, all these powerful people, Epstein wouldn't be able to do what he did. And until these people start accepting that as fact, they're gonna have problems. Charlemagne said party affiliation is irrelevant to the issues associated with Epstein. The co host of the Breakfast Club, Morgan Wood, pushed back on Charlemagne. And you know, to that point, though, you know, Clinton is not the president right now. You know, if he was, you think that anyway, I think he should still be under scrutiny if he was the president right now. Wood said, well, I don't know about that. I mean, Biden was the president. Nobody said, we had Hillary Clinton running for president. And they didn't bring up the Epstein stuff. They acted like it didn't exist. So there's no doubt that people in the legacy media have avoided this story because they know it's going to hurt their faves. And that's not me saying that. That's what Nancy Pelosi's daughter said. I don't care what party they are. No, period. No, he wouldn't, because liberal media wouldn't push the issue. Oh, okay. Well, this comes as. Speaking of liberal media, Charlemagne responded, look, he's not wrong. There's a lot of protection that goes on. And if you think that the media is not going to try and protect people like Clinton when they're running against somebody like Trump, you're crazy. So for those of you who are new to the story, which is. I'm sure a lot of you don't get caught up in that whole tunnel vision where you think it's only one side or the other. Because when you really look at what happened and you look at the players on the stage, there is plenty of blame to go around. And both sides of the aisle have blood on their hands when it comes to enabling and being enabled by Jeffrey Epstein. And anybody telling you any different is taking you for a ride. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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Investigative Commentator
Today's article is from the New York Post, and it was originally a Reuters article, but the New York Post reran it. And the headline, no, Bill Gates didn't repeatedly visit Jeffrey Epstein's island. So right off the bat, it looks like a. Well, a puff piece for Bill Gates, right? Reuters is like, oh, well, we have to come out and we have to defend Bill Gates, because how dare anyone attack Mr. Gates. He's such a great man. Meanwhile, we all know that he was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein after Epstein's conviction. Now, I'm not gonna sit here and say, oh, he was on the island for sure. I know that because, as you all know here on the podcast, I don't run anything that I cannot vet and that I cannot prove. Anything that has not been printed in the legacy media, anything that has not been put out in court papers. Now, I might have suspicions and I might be researching things that I don't talk about here on the podcast, but the format here is to stay exactly on, stay within the boundaries of the legacy media's. Own reporting. That way they can never come back and look at us and say, oh, you're reading, you're talking about Alex Jones level conspiracy theories. Well, that bullshit ain't happening here on this podcast. We're talking about your cover up. And the fact of the matter is, all you have to do is go back and read the articles that you and your colleagues have, have, have published and you'll see. Because Bill Gates, while he might not have been on the island a bunch of times like some people say he has, and I'm not saying that they are wrong either, by the way. I can't confirm one way or the other how many times or if at all Bill Gates has been on this island. Now I'm working to confirm it one way or the other. But like everything else in this case, it is very convoluted and it is very, very layered. So it takes a lot of time. And that's what they were banking on and that's how this whole entire thing was set up so that it would take a lot of legwork to untangle it. All right, so this article was authored by Reuters, so I'm guessing just the staff. And it was like I said, the New York Post is rerunning it. Viral claims circulating on social media claim that billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates has traveled to Jeffrey Epstein's island multiple times while Gates and Epstein had met in the past. This claim based on flight logs recently subpoenaed, is untrue. So again, let's read between the lines. This claim based on flight logs recently subpoenaed is untrue. What they're saying is the claim that's based on those flight logs might be untrue. But what about other evidence? What about other trips? What about the fact that Gates might have went there on his own plane? We don't know any of that. None of that has been released. There's nobody coming out talking about that yet. But of course Reuters has to jump in right away with their great fact checkers how they do on the whole entire Russia gate. Not by nonsense, by the way. And these guys have to come out with their fact checking right away to defend their buddy Bill Gates. It's so gross. It is so damn gross. Here's an idea. Here's a really good idea. Why doesn't Reuters spend some of their capital, spend some of their, their money and do a deep dive into Bill Gates and his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein? Why aren't they asking why Bill Gates was hanging out with Jeffrey Epstein in 2013? That's the question that should be asked. They shouldn't be running to his defense over rumors that he went to the island because as you'll see here, well, he's gonna say he, he didn't go to the Palm beach property in a different article that we're going to read right after this. But in this article, it says that he, he had never been there. It is, it's just such a joke. They contradict themselves in these articles right and left. And if we don't do these articles the way that we do and cover them the way that we do, there's no way that we'd be able to follow all of this the way it should be followed because the media has no desire to ever follow up on articles that they post. One example reads, flight records confirm that Bill Gates went to Epstein's child sex trafficking island 17 times. It's a fact, not a theory. And that kind of stuff is ridiculous as well. Anyone who's posting, it's a fact, not a theory, or this person is involved in this, or this person's involved in that, and they don't have receipts and they don't have evidence, and they don't even have, you know, any sort of circumstantial evidence. Well, I look at those people as disinformation agents. So anytime I see somebody claiming that they have some inside information in this case and they don't have anything to back it up, I am automatically skeptical. And that goes for both sides the argument. So while I don't know if Bill Gates went to this island, I don't know one way or the other for sure if he was ever on the island. What I do know is people that are out here talking about, oh, he was there 17 times. It's a fact, not a theory. Without providing evidence, those kind of people are very harmful for what's going on in this case. Following his arrest on July 6, 2019, financier, pedophile that Reuters is still calling him a financier, folks. Are you kidding me right now? Jeffrey Epstein pleaded not guilty to sex trafficking charges involving dozens of underage girls at his mansions on Manhattan's Upper east side. And in Palm Beach, Florida, he had escaped federal prosecution by pleading guilty in 2008, the Florida State prostitution charges, an agreement now widely considered too lenient. Epstein was found dead in his jail cell on August 10, 2019. Again, the financier, the pedophile once counted President Trump, former President Bill Clinton and Britain's, Britain's Prince Andrew as friends. They have not been Accused of any criminal wrongdoing. That's wrong. Prince Andrew was accused of criminal wrongdoing by Virginia Roberts. Why don't you state that in your article? Reuters. Reuters is part of the problem, folks. They're one of the worst. They are one of the worst legacy media outlets out there. Straight trash reporting. They don't dig even an inch below the surface and they run narrow. That's all they do is run narratives. It's such a gross, gross outlet. The private planes used by Epstein to travel to his island in the Caribbean, Little Saint James in the U. S. Virgin Islands, has been referred to in the media as the Lolita Express following the accusations of him trafficking minors. I don't even like to refer to it as that. How about just the gross ass plane that these gross ass disgusting animals flew on, The Lolita Express. Why are we going to give it any kind of, like, flavor, right? There's nothing cool about Jeffrey Epstein. There's nothing cool about the way he lived his life. There's nothing cool about the people he hung out with. And there's certainly nothing cool about the, the things he was involved in. All right? So let's not try and, you know, give his plane a cool name, all right? Let's just call it the piece of shit plane. In July 2019, the New York Times reported that the pilots that flew Epstein's private planes, including to his island in the Caribbean and had released records of flight logs, including names of those who had traveled on the planes. So again, that's very informative. Right? The flight logs are very important, but they have. It's not all that's, that's not the be all end all. We know that there's more documentation to be released and we know that there's more flight logs to be released. So for Reuters to jump in with both feet here and declare that this is not true without having all of the evidence, because we know that Reuters has not done more than a casual look at what's going on here for them to jump in with both feet and declare that, oh, this is a fact, this is not true. It's such a joke to me. It's such a joke to me that these legacy media outlets honestly believe that anybody is buying their bullshit anymore. Do any of you out there look at Reuters and say, well, Reuters fact checked it, I can move on, I don't have to do my own research.
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Investigative Commentator
Of course not. Nobody looks at the legacy media like that, especially outlets like Reuters. Copies of these flight logs can be seen online, uploaded by gawker.com and factcheck.org Reuters found no mention of Bill Gates in the first collection of flight logs and only one instance in the second. The log shows Bill Gates noted as A passenger on March 1, 2013 from Teterboro Airport in New Jersey to Palm Beach International Airport, Florida, not to little St. James. So that's not a big deal. It's only a big deal if he goes to Little St. James. That's the only place people were abused. Breaking news, Reuters. Palm beach was a hellhole, an absolute house of horrors where Jeffrey Epstein abused underage girls and girls of age. Okay, so it's oh, it's okay that, that Bill Gates flew down there. And why is he flying on Epstein's plane anyway? Doesn't Bill Gates have his own jet? Why are you on Epstein's plane? The same thing I asked about Trump. What was Trump doing on Epstein's plane that one time that they have him on the log? You have your own plane, bro. If you and this dude aren't so close, why are you flying on his plane? These are the questions that have to be asked. The legacy media does not want to do their job. So here we are once again, picking up the slack and filling in the holes. A screenshot. A screenshot circulating on some media reports replicates this log entry. In 2013, the New York Times corroborated this single trip to Florida and reported that Bill Gates spokeswoman said Mr. Gates, who has his own $40 million jet, hadn't been aware it was Mr. Epstein's plane. Such bullshit. So Bill Gates just gets on anybody's plane, just, you know, shows up at the airport, at the private docking area of the airport and says, yeah, I'm gonna get on this plane. I don't know whose it is, but it's going to, it's going to Palm beach, right? Yeah, I'm gonna get on. It's such bullshit. He knew he was getting on Epstein's plane and he doesn't want a cop to it because he doesn't want to create more of a firestorm around his relationship with the son of a bitch, but I got, I got news for you, Mr. Gates. Alright, you are also on the clock. The Times reported that Bill Gates had met with Epstein multiple times. This was after Epstein had been convicted of past sex crimes. The Times reported that beginning in 2011, Mr. Gates met with Mr. Epstein on numerous occasions. And employees of Mr. Gates foundation also paid multiple visits to Mr. Epstein's mansion. Exchanges were recorded and reported by the newspaper, including possible philanthropic collaboration. Oh, well, it's all good then, right? Because it was all about charity. It was all about charity. Bill Gates, one of the richest men in the world, needs Jeffrey Epstein to chip in for his charities. Bill Gates, the man giving away billions all the time, can't fork over his own dough for the charity, huh? Had to have Jeffrey Epstein's money. Had to have that dirty ass, disgusting pedophile money, huh? Bill Gates. For Reuters to come out and defend this guy and to act like, well, he was only on, he never went to that Caribbean island. So how dare you bring up Bill Gates name. It's disgusting. It's gross. And Reuters, well, I won't even tell you what I feel about Reuters. To claim, however, that Gates visited Epstein's island multiple times is baseless. Reuters was unable to find any flight logs corroborating this allegation. It appears Gates flew on an aircraft of Epstein's once, but this was to Florida. A spokesperson for the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation confirmed to Reuters via email that this claim is untrue.
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Podcast Host
False.
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Investigative Commentator
While Gates had met with Epstein, flight logs disprove he visited Epstein's Caribbean island multiple times. That's Reuters telling you to pack it in folks. That's Reuters telling me to stop and investigating. They have it all under control. They've done such a good job with this case from the very beginning that you and I should just step back and not worry about what's going on. Because the professionals in the legacy media, they're on the case. They're gonna make sure that all this goes down right. And they're gonna do a proper investigation this time. Man, shut up. Shut up. Nobody believes you, Reuters. You're a garbage outlet. You do garbage work. And the fact that you're coming to defend Jeffrey Epstein right here, right now by via defending Bill Gates is gross. Straight up gross. And what we're going to do is. Now it says here that Bill Gates visited the Palm beach mansion once, right? According to this flight log, he was there one time. Well, we have another Article from the Verge where he denies ever even going to Palm Beach. So which is it, Mr. Gates? Were you there or weren't you there? We're gonna read the second article right now so that you have perspective, so that you have context and so that you know that Reuters is lying to you. They don't want to fact, they only want to fact check the narrative that they want to fact check. They, they should be fact checking the whole entire thing, but of course they don't. So we're gonna do it for them. Alright, so this article is from the Verge, and in this article you'll see that Bill Gates denies that he even ever went to Palm Beach. Meanwhile, in the new Reuters article, it clearly states that at least one time he was on Jeffrey Epstein's plane and flew to Palm Beach. So what should we believe? What should we believe? Should we just believe Reuters? Should we believe Bill Gates? Isn't it Reuters job to really do a deep dive into all of this shit before they dip their toes into it? Because now they look like a bunch of morons. I know it's obvious. They always look like a bunch of morons, but even more so at this point.
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Investigative Commentator
All right, so let's check out this article from the Verge. Theverge.com headline, Bill Gates had a close. A closer relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Then he admitted. The New York Times reports Epstein was involved with the Gates personally and his namesake foundation. This article was published on October 12 and the author is Elizabeth Lopato. Nice Italian young lady, huh? Alright, so Bill Gates, the co founder of Microsoft and chairman of its board until 2014, was among the powerful men who spent a meaningful amount of time with the sex offender Jeffrey Epstein. According to reporting from the New York Times, employees of the Gates namesake foundation reportedly also met with Epstein in multiple visits to the disgraced financier's mansion. Pedophile, you mean. And it's obvious what's going on here. Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein built a relationship. After Jeffrey Epstein was arrested okay, that's a fact. You want to fact check something, Reuters, fact check that. It's also a fact that Bill Gates spent a lot more time with Epstein than he let on. Okay? Now, as far as the island goes, Reuters is 100% sure that he's never been there. Me, on the other hand, I am not so sure. Now, we still have. We don't have the evidence that he's been there, right? I haven't seen that evidence come across my desk, that's for sure. But I have not had anything conclusively telling me he hasn't been there. So I'm willing to wait and see. Unlike Reuters, who you would think, you know, these people went to journalism school, they had, you know, a bunch of. A bunch of money, an editor, blah, blah, blah. You would think that they would be on the right path, but once again, they are not. Previously, Gaetz had told the Wall Street Journal that he didn't have a business relationship or friendship with Epstein. I met him, Gates told the Journal on September 10th. I didn't have any business relationship or friendship with him. Now, here's what's important, folks. Listen to this. Okay? You get you ready? I didn't go to New Mexico or Florida or Palm beach or any of that. There were people around him who were saying, hey, if you want to raise money for global health and get more philanthropy, philanthropy. He knows a lot of rich people. Now, what did we just hear in the article from Reuters? He had never been to the Palm beach mansion. I thought the article in Reuters said he had been there one time, right? That's where the flight was from Teterboro to Palm Beach. And also, what plane was he on? Was he on the disgustoids plane? I bet he was, folks. I bet he was. And if Reuters was worth their weight in salt, they'd actually do a deep dive into this. But they're garbage. They're trash. And guess what? I just accept that at this point. I accept the fact that they're never going to tell us the real story. And I also accept the fact that anytime I read anything or hear anything on TV, that it's up to me to vet that and fact check it to make sure that it's true. How pathetic that we have to fact check the news organizations because they. In the New York Times article, a spokeswoman for Gates declined to say how many times the pair had met. The paper's reporting show that Gates met with Epstein numerous times, including at least three times at Epstein's townhouse. His lifestyle is very different and Kind of intriguing. Although it would not work for me, Gates wrote in a 2011 email to colleagues. His spokeswoman says he was referring only to the unique decor of the Epstein residence.
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Podcast Host
That's.
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Investigative Commentator
That's what he meant, huh? When he said lifestyle. Just the decor. What a bunch of bullshit. And the fact that these outlets don't
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NBC News Commentator
ever call Bill Gates out on this
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Investigative Commentator
shit is so absurd. Alright? It is absolutely absurd, and I will not stand for it. I personally will not stand for it. And Bill Gates, you are certainly on the clock, my friend. You are certainly on the clock because you have some answering to do. We've proven you to be a liar just in these two articles. A guy in his studio, in his home, in his pajamas, is doing harder legwork than Reuters. Chew on that for a minute, folks. Bill Gates regrets ever meeting with Epstein and recognizes it was an error in judgment to do so. Reading in between the lines, what he means is he regrets that he was ever caught being friends with Jeffrey Epstein. He doesn't regret the relationship itself, folks, let's be real. His spokeswoman told the New York Times. Gates recognizes that entertaining Epstein's ideas related to philanthropy gave Epstein an undeserved platform that was at odds with Gates personal values and the values of his foundation. No, it wasn't. Bill Gates is just another dirtbag, in my opinion. Another scummy son of a bitch thief who cheated his way to the top and crapped on the people below him to get there. He's not some American victory story, okay? Just another piece of garbage, in my opinion. Sorry. The Gates foundation has committed $1 billion to gender equality. Melinda Gates, Bill's wife and co chair of the Gates foundation, has said 1 billion is only a small fraction of what's necessary. The foundation has often touted its commitment to women and girls. Yeah, of course they have. That's their. That's their cover story, right? Oh, we give out so much money to women and girls, we would never hang out with Jeffrey Epstein. So they use it as their shield, as their armor. But guess what? We see through their bullshit now. That story, that cover worked for as long as the media was able to run their narrative. They are no longer able to do so because of you, folks. All because of you. In 2011, Gaetz instructed a team to meet Epstein at his townhouse to discuss philanthropic fundraising. And the New York Times reports Epstein told the people there that his conviction for soliciting prostitution from an underage girl was no worse than stealing a bagel. According to two people who were there so this is the kind of f. Oh, man. This is the kind of stuff that Jeffrey Epstein would say around. Around Bill Gates people, around Bill Gates Associates, and probably around Bill Gates himself. And yet Bill Gates was still meeting with him, still trying to get money from him, still working with him. I don't care what you're working on. There is no reason for a man like Bill Gates to be associating with a pedophile like Jeffrey Epstein. The two remained in contact, and at one point in 2013, Gates flew on Epstein's jet from New Jersey to Palm Beach, Florida, according to a flight manifest. So there you go.
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NBC News Commentator
Bill Gates is a liar.
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Investigative Commentator
We've already proved it in two articles, folks. That's the whole reason I'm reading the second article, to provide context for the first. Would it really be that hard for Reuters to add that into their article? No, they're too busy gaslighting you. They're too busy with their bullshit. Gates spokeswoman claims Gates, who owns his own private jet, didn't know it was Epstein's plane. Though the relationship between Gates and Epstein apparently cooled off after 2014, the Gates foundation remained in contact with Epstein through 2017. According to today's reporting, two members of Gates inner circle served as intermediaries between Gates and Epstein. One, Melanie Walker, met Epstein after she graduated from college in 1992. She moved to New York, where she stayed in a building owned by Epstein. She also worked for Epstein in 1998 as a science advisor after graduating from medical school. She joined the gates foundation in 2006. And I believe that that is the neurosurgeon that Epstein had for Prince Andrew. You see how the circles all interconnect. You see how the spider web is weaved, folks? And if you're not on your shit, if you're not on your game, and you take one day off covering this case, you will be left behind. That was where she met Boris Nikolic, who was the Gates foundation science advisor. She introduced him to Epstein. Nikolic, who now runs a venture capital firm, was named as a fallback executor to Epstein's will. He has declined to do so in court proceedings. Gates is an investor in Nikolic's firm. According to the New York Times, Nikolic says, I deeply regret ever meeting Epstein. No, you don't. You regret being outed. You regret people knowing that you met Epstein. And furthermore, if him and Boris Nikolic weren't so close, if they didn't have a strong relationship, why would he add him as an executor? Khan and Indyke were very close to Epstein. We know that Indyke was his house lawyer and we know Khan was attached to him at the Hip Hop. So if Nikolic wasn't a valued member of Jeffrey Epstein's operation, of Jeffrey Epstein's inner circle, why was he also named an executor? Was that too much for Reuters to ask, too much for them to delve a little deeper, or too busy just running their fact check counter narrative bullshit. You see folks, the legacy media has failed you. The fourth estate has lost its way. And every single time they come out with one of these bullshit stories and they attempt to lie to you. In this case, you can guarantee that I will be right here on the Jeffrey Epstein show to read in between the lines and to call them out on their utter bullshit. If you'd like to contact me, you could do that@bobby capuchirotonmail.com that's B O B B Y C A P U c c I@protonmail.com you can Twitter at what's up everyone?
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NBC News Commentator
And welcome back to the Epstein Chronicles over here at NBC News. The author of the article that we're about to dive into thinks she knows what she's talking about when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein and what's going on here. But all you have to do is read the article to understand that she has a very basic understanding of what went on, of what went down. And this whole article is nothing more then cover because one of her faves or some of her faves were mentioned in the document dump. The one thing that they get right in this article is that just because you're named in the document dump it doesn't mean that you were taking part in the abuse. I have to keep stressing that because there's people out there that don't understand. They think that if you were named in the documents that it's some kind of list. It's not. These are all old documents. These all have to do with the defamation suit between Virginia Roberts and Ghislaine Maxwell.
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That being said, to label this stuff as conspiracy theory, to label this stuff as, you know, just the workings of mad men and mad women is very dangerous, honestly. And it's doing you, the reader and people out there who are trying to understand what happened a disservice. But have no fear, your boy got you. So let's dive into this article and let's dissect it. Like I said, this article is from NBC News and the headline, Jeffrey Epstein document release continues to keep online conspiracy theorists invested. So everybody out there who's interested in this case is a conspiracy theorist. Don't you think that normal people, just regular old folks like you, are interested in the fact that this guy was palling around with some of the most high profile people in the world? And not only that, but scores that NPA gets all the homie hookups, has all of these connections. But no, you shouldn't have any kind of questions about that. You should have no curiosity, sit down and shut up. Conspiracy theorist. That's basically what they're telling you here at NBC News. Imagine if they would have spent the time that they took to write this article to actually educate people about how deep the ties between Bill Clinton and Jeffrey Epstein really were. But instead, what they do is run cover. And we all know the reason. It's all in the name of politics. It's all in the name of not giving the other side any fodder because you know, they're faves. And all newly released documents from a settled lawsuit involving the late financier. You mean pedophile Jeffrey Epstein held few new details. But that hasn't stopped social media users from speculating about high profile names found in the pages. Hundreds of pages released Wednesday night were a part of a civil defamation Lawsuit filed in 2015 against Epstein. Confidant. You mean co conspirator, right? You mean human trafficker, right? You mean scumbag, right? Ghislaine Maxwell by Virginia Roberts, who said she was a victim of sex trafficking and abuse. What do you mean said? I thought it was Believe All Women NBC. Virginia Roberts has been paid out how many times? And furthermore, for those of you in the media that don't understand what went down here, the second that the estate paid out any sort of settlement to these women, the whole alleged shit goes out the window, okay? They were paid because they were abused, not because they showed up to extort the estate. So save the alleged for somebody else. You want to talk about allegedly abused when talking about Prince Andrew in Virginia, fine. But Jeffrey Epstein give me a break. Yeah, it's alleged. No, the dude molested her. The dude raped her and he did it to countless women. Maxwell is serving a 20 year prison sentence after she was convicted in 2021 of helping Epstein recruit and sexually abuse teenage girls. She also helped with the abuse. You see what I mean? These legacy media articles, they don't even have the basic knowledge of what's going on. So if they don't even understand the basic story, how can they tell what's a conspiracy and what's not? Since his death, Epstein has taken on an almost mythical status in many online communities, prone to conspiracy theories and inspired general skepticism of those in power. The statement Epstein didn't kill himself became a common enough refrain to be basis for a Wikipedia article and a subreddit dedicated to him and his crime counts more than 107,000 members. Well, what should that tell you, NBC News? People want answers. People aren't happy or going to accept the BS whitewashed job that you dudes are dropping on us. So why don't you get down to it? Why don't you really get down into the weeds? Why don't you talk about Nicholas Tartaglioni? Why don't you talk about the fact that video went missing? Why don't you talk about the fact that the whole entire camera system was working, except, shockingly enough, the camera that was pointed at Epstein's cell during the first alleged suicide attempt. Can we talk about that a little bit? The truth is, most of these outlets couldn't have that conversation because they don't have all of the details, they don't know the nuance, and they haven't scratched further than under the surface. While various theories have swirled around Epstein, most center on the idea that he is the key to uncovering secret widespread corruption and abuse elements shared with other popular conspiracy theories, including QAnon. Interest in Epstein rose in December when a judge ordered the disclosure of the names of over 150 people mentioned in court documents relating to him. Much of the fascination has been around Epstein's list, a misnomer for the names mentioned in various court documents related to Epstein, which don't necessarily indicate wrongdoing. Numerous posts detailing Epstein's list got traction online without context, fueling speculation about the actions of those named. Paul Bleakley, an assistant professor of criminal justice at the University of New Haven, said some people are under the misconception that the court released an official list of Epstein's clients. They did not do that. I've been telling you folks that for a while now. This is not a list. These are just documents that are related to that lawsuit. And the real function of those documents is just to act as receipts to the stuff that we already knew. So anybody coming out here and telling you that this is a list that contains a roll of clients, that's incorrect. That is not true. But if you want to cross reference, you could see that a lot of these people that are being named here in these files were also in Jeffrey Epstein's black book. So it's not really that large of a leap to have some questions. Right? If you're in that black book, we have questions. And having questions about something certainly doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist. Most people are not going to go through the original files. Well, we're not most people. Bleakly said most people will see a list, see it being purported to be what was released, and will take their opinions and fact from there. That's what's really dangerous because it completely misrepresents what was released. He's not wrong about that. Calling it a list is incorrect. It is not a list. What it is is more receipts. Many assume that people mentioned in the list were implicated in criminal behavior, which wasn't the case in many instances. Celebrities like Cate Blanchett, Leonardo DiCaprio and Cameron Diaz, for example, were briefly mentioned in the documents as examples of famous contacts. Epstein liked to name drop. Still, some social media users saw their names listed and condemned them. Well, not for nothing, but how many of those people have come forward and given statements? How many of them have been deposed? How many of them have come out in support of the survivors? Not very many. Right. So it's a two way street here. I will say this, though. Just because you're in these documents, that does not mean you are partaking in the abuse. Your best bet is to listen to the survivors about who was partaking and who wasn't. Blakely added that some of the lists remove context. That is important to prevent people misguidedly being accused of things. He said it's also dangerous because it skews understanding of the case itself, which can affect the ongoing fight for justice for Epstein's survivors, not victims. Ongoing justice? When is that going to occur? Because we've been screaming from mountaintops for years now and there's not any justice to be seen. If there was, then all of these associates would be wrapped up. If there was, there would be a RICO case dropped on all of these fools. But that never happened, did it? Here we are all these years later, still talking about the same things. So I don't even know what Mr. Bleakley is talking about here. And if Mr. Bleakley was serious about justice for the survivors, he'd be out here advocating that Congress or the Senate set up a committee and bring every last person before them with subpoenas to talk about Epstein. Has that happened yet? That's right, it hasn't. Ask yourselves why. Joseph Ewchinsky, a political science professor at the University of Miami who studies conspiracy theories, said the reality of document dumps can be less clarifying than people expect. That is true, and that's why we're going through them one by one and parsing them down. That way we can get an idea of what they contain and get all of the context that we need to understand what the hell is going on. And the best way to get there is to have as much context as possible. They all think there is going to be something in there that's going to give them what they already believe and rarely does it do that, uchinsky said. Still, that doesn't stop people from speculating or holding out hope that they will be proved right in the future. People want to get confirmation, uchinsky said. Even if it's not there, they'll still see it. And if it's not there, then they'll say, oh, the real stuff was redacted and I know it's going to be in the next dump. Bleakly said the Epstein case was and continues to be a useful political tool in the current partisan political environment. Many of the reactions to the newly released documents came from either staunch supporters or critics of former President Donald Trump, both of whom felt the documents were proof of some sort of belief that they had about his relationship to Epstein, Bleakly said. Trump has said he hadn't been in touch with Epstein for 15 years before his death. Flight records made public in 2019 show former President Bill Clinton flew on Epstein's planes numerous times. He was also mentioned in the documents and in online posts. A spokesman for Clinton referred NBC News on Wednesday to a statement from 2019 that said he had not spoken to Epstein in over a decade and that he was unaware of any criminal activity at the time. Well, okay, that's fine and well, but we know about the 17 trips Epstein made to the White House. We know he brought five girls to the White House, too. Can we get some answers about that, or are you gonna just keep referring us to the 2019 statement that's filled with inaccuracies? It's on Bill Clinton to answer these questions. It's not on anybody else to stop asking them. And to try and say that people are conspiracy theorists for asking about Bill Clinton is really a poor reflection on NBC News and the author here, because there's a lot of questions about Bill Clinton and his activity with Jeffrey Epstein that need to be answered. And again, I'm not just popping off at the mouth. We have a stack of receipts. Go back and listen to the episodes. And each one of those episodes, mind you, is sourced by an article that's out there for the public to consume. And for me, anyway, I think that these whitewashed type articles are as dangerous as conspiracy theories because what they do is they have people thinking that there was nothing really going on here, that this is all just all made up stuff by crazies online. When that's not the case. Go and ask the survivors. Go and ask the unnamed girls that we have never even heard from. Go ahead and ask them if this is a conspiracy theory. Go and ask them what their opinions of Bill Clinton are. Bleakly said online, echo chambers have allowed people to reinforce their beliefs, which he said has fueled conspiratorial thinking and extreme partisanship in recent years. You can release as much evidence as you like, and there will always be people saying this was fabricated. This is a cover up. I believe what I believe he said. Well, not here. I believe the evidence. And so far, all this evidence that Mr. Bleakley is talking about has never appeared. We haven't seen any evidence about what happened in that jail cell. All we have is Bill Barr's word and the word of the inspector general, who doesn't even talk about Tartaglione. I mean, come on, is anybody ever gonna talk about the fact that Epstein was in a cell with Tartaglioni, a dude that was in the lockup as a quadruple murderer? What's he doing in a jail cell with Jeffrey Epstein? Victims, Bleakly said, can often become collateral damage. And conspiracy theorists hunt for more documents. You know where else they can become collateral damage? When the legacy media ignores the what they tell them. When the legacy media protects Jeffrey Epstein, when the legacy media doesn't do their job and destroy those in power. When the legacy media continuously ignores these accusations because they want to protect their buddies, because that's what happened. Vanity Fair and the rest of them, they ran a bang up whitewash job on Jeffrey Epstein and they never even added any of the information that the Farmer sisters gave them about Epstein and his operation, which in part led to Epstein molesting more girls. For years and years and years and years. So the legacy media as a whole should probably take a look in the mirror before they talk about who's dangerous and who's not. They can also be an afterthought in the online conversation about Epstein's crimes. Despite being the ones most affected by them. He's not wrong about that. Remember, the focus should always be on the survivors, on what they went through and the fact that they didn't receive justice. This is not a political pogrom. This isn't a witch hunt to score political points and smash your enemies with a hammer. This is about justice and holding those in power to account. Bleakly said, people can often use such cases for their own self satisfaction, dehumanizing victims in the process. That shoe fits on both feet. And if you're not taking what they say seriously and you're calling all of it a conspiracy, you don't think that's hurtful? You don't think they look at that and say, why should I come forward and tell my story if nobody's going to believe me? Well, I can tell you from firsthand conversations with people who are directly affected by this, it is hurtful and it most certainly leads to some survivors not coming forward and telling their stories. I think that it's a really sort of toxic trend that we have in today's culture where in the quest to say, well, I was right all along and that others are inadvertently hurt in the wake of that. He said, and look, the author's not wrong when they talk about conspiracy theories being hurtful, being damaging. They are. But in a case like this, everything's not black and white. There's a lot of nuance. So what's a conspiracy? What's not? Things that were thought to be a conspiracy have proved not to be. So this is one of those cases where if you're closing off your options at all, then you're going to be behind the eight ball when it comes to understanding and truly grasping what went down here. So considering all of that, we're gonna keep on keeping on here and we'll keep digging deeper than just the surface as we swim through the muck to try and get to the clarity. All of the information that goes with this episode can be found in the description box.
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